1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 4: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 5: Podcasts Gary Kenny FLORIANI God, here're your hosts. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: John Nnick and Kenny Florian. 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 6: Oh yes, right on the screws two nine fifty am Pacific. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 6: Kenflow has been in the seat since nine thirty. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Though, waiting for you, kid, Wait where you been? 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 7: Quarter of an hour early? 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Today? 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 6: You have a rocky Brazilian jiu jitsu co founder Kenny Floorda. 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 8: I've been way for you have like thirty kids now, 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 8: so I get it. I know why you're late. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 6: Congratulations, Papa, Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it. Can you 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 6: believe there was a penis in there after all that? 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 8: I can't, I mean one out of three thirty three percent. 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 8: You know you nailed it. That's good you got out 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 8: of them. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 6: You know how I feel about my daughters and how 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 6: strongly I feel about the father daughter thing, and how 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 6: happy I was when you and your wife welcome to 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 6: Daughter into the world back in February. But we didn't 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 6: find out this time, so the suspense was there, and 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 6: the fact that a boy popped out, like every time 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: I change his diaper, I'm checking to make sure that 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 6: this is a reality because the fact that we didn't 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 6: find out, and then there was a boy in there. 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 6: When you got two girls at home, my mom's got 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 6: six granddaughters, like we are just running with the girls, 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 6: and I still am in shock that that there is 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 6: a boy in this equation. Hunter J has arrived. 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 8: Dude, the annic name survives. Congratulations. We were pumped for you, man, for. 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 7: Better or worse. 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 6: I know it's interesting, and I appreciate all the support 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 6: from you and from everybody else sincerely, And I'm not 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 6: on Facebook, but I see every message, so thank you all. 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: But it's like when you have children, and you have 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 6: two girls, right, and you go through the different emotions 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 6: and they're the best of friends. Injecting a third girl 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 6: into that equation. I just I don't know how that 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 6: would have played out. And then you allow yourself to 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 6: have these thoughts as a father, like what exactly would 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: I do with that third girl? You know, I don't 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 6: know what I would have done with a third girl. 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 6: So I am over the moon to have a son. 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 6: And I think the only thing that can get me 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 6: down today, Ken Flow, is that I'm gonna be forty 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 6: in the morning. 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 9: Dude. 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: That's so oh wow. 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, So that's no good. That's no get anyway you 58 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: slice it. And I mean, I know your agent and 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 6: reverse you're like Benjamin Button, right, and if they opened 60 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 6: being you up right, I'm diet coke and you're like 61 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 6: way protein. 62 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 7: So we know I'm probably fifty and you're like thirty. 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 6: But I'm gonna be forty in the morning, Kenny, and 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 6: I am not looking forward to it. I don't want 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 6: birthday tweets. I'm not in a great place about that. 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 6: But I'm a happy. 67 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 8: Father everyone, and tweet John a happy fortieth birthday. 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 7: Please do not So it is Monday. 69 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: It is July second, twenty eighteen, episode one sixty one 70 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 6: of The Anakin and Florian podcast and the real reason 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 6: why I'm jumping out of my skin today. It's not 72 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 6: the sugar free Monster energy drink that I am drinking 73 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: right now. But this is the biggest fight week of 74 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 6: the year, Ken Flow. I know you've got your boots 75 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 6: on the ground in Vegas come Wednesday night. 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 7: And the fight card differs every year. 77 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 6: We remember what happened last year with UFC two thirteen 78 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 6: and Amanda Nonez and Valentina Chepchenko and everything else. 79 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 7: But this is about as big as it gets. 80 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 10: Like. 81 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: It doesn't feel George Saint Pierre bjpenn UFC ninety four 82 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 6: big back in two thousand and nine, right, But this 83 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 6: is one of the five to seven biggest fights in 84 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: UFC history, just based upon the stakes, never mind who's fight. 85 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's right. 86 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 8: I mean, it's rare in the UFC that we have 87 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 8: true super fights where you get guys from two different 88 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 8: weight classes going at it. Not only do we have that, 89 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 8: we have two champions, the light heavyweight champion taking on 90 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 8: the heavyweight champion. This is the first time this has 91 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 8: ever happened in the UFC, and we have two fantastic champions. 92 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 8: Steep A Miacic, who many regard as the best heavyweight 93 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 8: of all time along with cam Velasquez. Taken on Daniel 94 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 8: Cormier and a guy who a lot of people think 95 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 8: one of the greatest of all time. It is certainly 96 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 8: in his way class, maybe just across all way classes. 97 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Now if he's able to pull this off. 98 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 8: Against steep A Miacic, two unbelievable wrestlers, two guys that 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 8: have you know, experienced a tremendous amount of success at 100 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 8: the highest level in the UFC. 101 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: And is it intriguing fight? 102 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 6: What a crazy sport to think that Daniel Cormier here, 103 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 6: at thirty nine years old, has put himself in position 104 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 6: at least arguably to be within one win of being 105 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 6: in the conversation as the greatest of all time. 106 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 7: And I know John Jones is going to turn his 107 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 7: nose up at that. 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 6: And when I used to call Jones the goat before 109 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: others considered him such, he used to give me shit 110 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 6: about it, right, he didn't want that distinction. Now, the 111 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 6: fact that people are mentioning Cormier in that context, you know, 112 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 6: has has drawn the attention of John Jones. But it's 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 6: not about John Jones, of course, It's about step a 114 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 6: and it's about d C. One factor that I think 115 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 6: is interesting is the fact that DC does have Kane 116 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 6: Velaskz at his disposal. You know, one thing we don't 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 6: talk a lot about when it comes to AKA is that, 118 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 6: at least when rock Hole was in his prime and 119 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 6: Kane and DC, sometimes you don't have those core key guys, right, 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 6: and Luke of course went down to South Florida for 121 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 6: a little while. It's hard to quantify what that means 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 6: for Daniel Cormier, but I would think just in terms 123 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 6: of the confidence, the fact that he's been, you know, 124 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 6: tripping sweat with Kane Blaskaz every day is a feather 125 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 6: in his cap come Saturday night. 126 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 127 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 8: Let me tell you something about Daniel Cormier. He's a 128 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 8: very smart guy and he took this fight for a reason. 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 8: He has experienced what it's like to fight a high 130 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 8: pace fight against an excellent heavyweight champion who can strike 131 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 8: and wrestle at that tremendous pace. Likes step I Michich, 132 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 8: So I think that DC likes his chances because of that. 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 8: You know, I will probably break down the fight a 134 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 8: little bit more, but I think that it's interesting that 135 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 8: Daniel Krmer. Not only does he have Kane as at 136 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 8: his disposal for this training camp, but he's trained with 137 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 8: him for years, for years, so he knows what it's 138 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 8: like to suffer in there against a big heavyweight. Daniel 139 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 8: Cormier is an undefeated heavyweight at the end of the day. 140 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 8: We can't forget about that. And again I think it's 141 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 8: huge that he has been able to train with Kane 142 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 8: has been you know, in and out with injuries, but 143 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 8: to have him at his disposal as you said, for 144 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 8: this training camp is huge. 145 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 6: So DC went thirteen to zero as a heavyweight in 146 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 6: mixed martial arts, a lot of quality wins in there, 147 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 6: not the least of which the twenty five minutes against 148 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 6: Josh Barnett that he was very emotional after the fact 149 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 6: that just the physical toll of that fight. Then it 150 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 6: was nine cuts down to two hundred and five pounds 151 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 6: that wayward two hundred and six point two pound cut 152 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 6: in there as well. But so DC, after nine straight 153 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 6: up light heavyweight is back up to heavyweight here and 154 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 6: when you look at the body of work at heavyweight, 155 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 6: certainly there's not a loss in there. Four of his 156 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 6: last six wins at heavyweight were by decision. So when 157 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 6: I look at power in this equation and as a 158 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 6: factor against steep a, at least on paper, for me, 159 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: I think Stepe's got the power with the hands plausibly 160 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 6: with the feet as well. I know DC's probably the 161 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 6: better kicker, but I think when you look at paths 162 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 6: to victory for Daniel Cormier that at least with his 163 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: hands or with a hook, it's gonna be hard to 164 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: get that big oldhead of Steepe's out of it. 165 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I think. 166 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 8: So listen, DC does have the ability to knock you out. 167 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 8: Does he have steep A miacic power? Probably not. DC 168 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 8: hits very hard, but you look at the structure of 169 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 8: his body. He's not built like a Steepe Miacic. 170 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: You know. 171 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 8: Stepe's head is like a TV monitor, It's huge, his shoulders, everything, 172 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 8: the guy is massive. D C isn't built like that, 173 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 8: but he does hit very very hard. DC's hands, they're 174 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 8: not the biggest in the world. Is risk all that stuff? 175 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 8: You know, he can wrestle at the heavyweight level. Can 176 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 8: he get the kind of knockout power that an Ingano 177 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 8: or a Michu Chaz Probably not, but he will have 178 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 8: the speed advantage. I truly believe that, and I think 179 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 8: that's why DC likes this fight. The other thing that 180 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 8: I don't think a whole lot of people are talking 181 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 8: about is, you know, when you're getting ready for a fight, 182 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 8: and DC has experienced this many times. When you're cutting 183 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 8: weight and you're getting down to two hundred and five pounds, 184 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 8: which isn't the easiest thing in the world. 185 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: For guys like Daniel Cormier. 186 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 8: You know, it affects your confidence because you know you're 187 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 8: cutting weight. You know, your caloric intake isn't the same, 188 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 8: you don't have that same energy, you don't have that 189 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 8: same pep in your step for those last few weeks 190 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 8: leading into camp. 191 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: DC has that. Now he doesn't have. 192 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 8: To worry about, you know, having to eat, you know, 193 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 8: restricted diets and all that stuff that gets you down, 194 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 8: It gets you stressed, and I think all those little 195 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 8: things leading into fight week are huge for guys like Daniel. 196 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 8: The fact that he can eat not whatever he wants, 197 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 8: but he can eat the you know, more quantities than 198 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 8: he's used to leading into camp, which is going to 199 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 8: lead to better training sessions, better sparring sessions, and that's 200 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 8: huge for a fighter heading into a big fight like this. 201 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 6: And he has the heavyweight experience, right. I mean, in 202 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 6: one breath, I would say there are fighters like Domina 203 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 6: Cruz who say the suffering prior to the fight helps them, 204 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 6: not just in terms of the cardio, but just having 205 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 6: gone through that fight night seems easy. Is there anything 206 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 6: to be lost? Right for Daniel Cormier, I mean it's hard. 207 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 6: I mean, you would know the inner workings of his 208 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 6: training camp better than I wouldn't. All the better idea 209 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 6: after I talked to him tomorrow. But for me, I think, 210 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 6: you know, is there something to be gained for DC? 211 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 7: Right? 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 6: You mentioned all the gains, but is there something to 213 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 6: be lost by the fact that he hasn't had to 214 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 6: watch everything in his mouth and hasn't had to monitor 215 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 6: every cardio session for eight weeks? 216 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 8: Well, you know, listen, I think as far as cardio 217 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 8: and conditioning, all that stuff, you have to do the same. 218 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 8: You have to do the same amount of work, if 219 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 8: not more. I think DC understands that he is going 220 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 8: to be the smaller guy. Speed has to be his friend, 221 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 8: and here he's not gonna have the same kind of power. 222 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 8: He's not gonna have the same kind of strength against 223 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 8: someone like a steep I Miachich. So for DC, he's 224 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 8: gonna have to be on his bike. His footwork is 225 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 8: gonna have to be tremendous. He's gonna have to be 226 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 8: in and out. He's gonna have to be very defensively 227 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 8: sound here. Against someone like Steve Bay, you can make 228 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 8: a mistake kind of like he did early in that 229 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 8: fight against avukn Uzdamir, you cannot do that against someone 230 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 8: like a steep I Miachich. So that window or that 231 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 8: margin of error at the heavyweight division isn't the same 232 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 8: as other divisions. You make one mistake as a heavyweight 233 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 8: as far as getting hit in the head anywhere in 234 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 8: the head, and that could be the last time you 235 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 8: get hit, you'll be asleep. So DC has to be 236 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 8: very careful with a guy as powerful as steep I Miacich. 237 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 6: Step A has evolved into a guy many considered the 238 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 6: greatest UFC heavyweight of all time. The confidence for this 239 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 6: guy is just incredible, and I gotta think there's part 240 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 6: of him that likes the opportunity to take on this 241 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 6: former Olympian and a more decorated wrestler than he's ever faced. 242 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 6: I also think we're all human beings, and he's probably 243 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 6: happy that he's not sharing the octagon with Francis and 244 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 6: Gano Saturday night, right. I mean, there are different parts 245 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 6: to this challenge, obviously with Cormier and the first time 246 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 6: that DC is able to ground steep A. If that happens, 247 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 6: we'll see how step A reacts. But there were a 248 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 6: lot more unknowns I think for Steve A. Miaciic going 249 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 6: into that Francis and Ghanu fight maybe than there are 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 6: going into d C. 251 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 7: You think that's fair to say. 252 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. 253 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 8: Listen, there's very few guys in the world that can 254 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 8: hit as hard as in Ganu. And you look at 255 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 8: Stepe's body of work leading up to this fight here 256 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 8: against DC, He's faced a lot of different fighters. 257 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: He has the experience. 258 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 8: Now you look at the step Miacich that lost against 259 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 8: Stefan Struve to the step A Miacich that's fighting now 260 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 8: at this level. It's two different guys. And we talked 261 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 8: about that when we called that fight. We knew that 262 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 8: this was going to be an incredible learning you know, 263 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 8: a lesson for Steve B. Miachich back when he lost 264 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 8: against Stepan struve and from there he's pretty much been 265 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 8: unbeatable and has learned a lot over his UFC career, 266 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 8: so he knows how to train now, he knows how 267 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 8: to prepare. 268 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: He's faced and seen it. 269 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 8: All now in the octagon at this point, and that's 270 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 8: why we're seeing such a confidence Stepe a Michic for 271 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 8: me though, you know, for DC, where d C is 272 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 8: most vulnerable is against kickers, guys who can kick high 273 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 8: and kick hard, can kick to the body step a 274 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 8: MITCHI isn't really that guy. Now, he might come in 275 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 8: with that tool heading into this training camp, you know, 276 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 8: or for this fight against DZ, because just the way 277 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 8: that DC tends to lean back and off to the side, 278 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 8: he's most vulnerable against guys who can really kick very well, 279 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 8: a guy like John Jones as we saw. So I 280 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 8: don't think he needs to worry about that here against Stepe. 281 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 8: But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Stepe has 282 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 8: seen that. Steep and his team has seen that and 283 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 8: might throw a different tool in there against Daniel. 284 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 6: And Steve ed longer than you think, not a John 285 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 6: Jones eighty four inch reach, but up over eighty inches 286 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 6: for the UFC Heavyweight Champion a I'm more on that later. 287 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 6: Full breakdown coming up in the main event challenge, including 288 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: Ken Flow's pick with round and method of victory. But 289 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: let's get to Ray Long. 290 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes, and I'm. 291 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Gonna punch a hole in this. 292 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: That's what i want, The Ray Long Minute, the John 293 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 294 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to update that graphic and get the 295 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: welterweight Ray Long go in there. 296 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 7: Good Monday to you, man. 297 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 11: Hey, First off, congratulations again, it's a very big news. 298 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 9: John. How's the baby. 299 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 6: The baby is a lie, my man. You know it's 300 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 6: a boy. That's all I can say. It is a boy. 301 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 9: Congratulations man, very very happy for you, buddy. 302 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 7: I appreciate it. 303 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 10: Man. 304 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 7: So how you doing. We missed you last week, obviously, 305 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 7: what's good in your world? 306 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, nothing much, man, Just gearing up for this week 307 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 9: in Vegas. 308 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 11: Very excited about, you know, inducting my buddy into the 309 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 11: Hall of Fame. 310 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 9: Big news, big stuff. Everybody's getting sighted. 311 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 11: I really look forward to going to the fights and 312 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 11: hanging out in Vegas and doing the Hall of Fame. 313 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 9: Great, great week coming up. 314 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 6: So I got my hands on the Hall of Fame 315 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 6: format and I was able to see how many minutes 316 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 6: they have budgeted for your speech. 317 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 9: Were we were way off by the way when we 318 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 9: were talking. 319 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 7: Well, what did they tell you? What did they tell you? 320 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 9: Well, they originally said five minutes. Okay, I think you know. 321 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 11: So I put it together and I actually originally had 322 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 11: it like a ten minute deal going on. 323 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 9: So I cut everything down. I had five minutes. I 324 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 9: put it in. 325 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 11: They loved it, and he kind of said, now you 326 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 11: don't have to really hold it the five minutes. We'll 327 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 11: give you a little more time because he wanted me 328 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 11: to add a couple of things that I kind of 329 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 11: talked about but I expounded about, so he kind of 330 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 11: we're going back and forth. 331 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 9: He kind of gave me some stuff. 332 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 11: So I still haven't had the final draft in, but uh, 333 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 11: the framework is damn and I'm excited about it. 334 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: So see, you're not the prototypical induct tour right, You're 335 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 6: an entertaining guy. 336 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 7: We don't we don't want to leash on rail. Long ago. 337 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 6: I saw it format it for six minutes, so I'm 338 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 6: hoping you give us at least six minutes strong and 339 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: it's Thursday night, July fifth, this Thursday. You can see 340 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 6: it on UFC Fight Pass. So I'm excited, man, I'm 341 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: excited to watch you read a teleprompter as I sit 342 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 6: there hazing you from the back. 343 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 9: I think I don't know if I'm reading it. Even 344 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 9: everybody's telling me to do the telefront. 345 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 8: No. 346 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 11: They are trying to put a leash on me though, 347 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 11: a little bit. So I'm this is the last conversation 348 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 11: we'll happen today. So I hope, okay, I hope I 349 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 11: can loosen the leash a little bit. But uh, nothing 350 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 11: nothing crazy, just uh the organization of it. But it's 351 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 11: just still be good. And I think I'm I think 352 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 11: it'll be good for six minutes. It depends on, you know, 353 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 11: the audience's response to some of my stupidity. 354 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 9: I don't we will see. 355 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 8: I don't think there's any way it will be longer 356 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 8: than last year's Hall of Fame ceremony. 357 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: It was like an eight hour old deal. Yeah, that 358 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: was insane. 359 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 9: Oh I don't want. 360 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: I need, I need like three intermissions for that thing. 361 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 6: That's crazy, Uh, James, because I'm a name dropping piece 362 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 6: of shit. 363 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 11: But my brother, he said you're better off want to, 364 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 11: you know, instead of overdoing it, leave him wanting more. 365 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 11: So that's what I'm doing. I'm just gonna dangle the carrots, 366 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 11: get it done, and leave him wanting more. I'm going 367 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 11: with the advice from a great guy. 368 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 10: Nice. 369 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go. 370 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, as our late producer Bruce Connell always said, less 371 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 6: is more and it works of course too. 372 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 7: To induct Bruce Connell this weekend. 373 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 6: So I'm trying to figure out how to pivot from 374 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: steep A DC to Uluka Sasaki. But I just want 375 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 6: to bring it up very quickly because we were off 376 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 6: after the Singapore show and this is your guy who 377 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: had to fight go away very long for this flyweight division. 378 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 6: A lot of people think his ceiling is high, and 379 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 6: I think higher after submitting the very tough Filipino Janelle 380 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 6: Lousa back on June twenty third. I was watching this 381 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 6: from a hospital room. But a nice win for your guy, Sasaki. 382 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 6: Were you watching live or after the fact, No. 383 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 9: I watched it live. 384 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 11: I got up at four point thirty in the morning. Yeah, yea, 385 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 11: and I watched the fight. That's crazy. It kind of 386 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 11: killed my day because you know whatever, But I was 387 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 11: really really happy for this kid. He's a great kid, 388 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 11: great energy in the gym, and I'll tell you I 389 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 11: thought he he fought a very very smart fight, you 390 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 11: know what I mean, Like before he left, I said, look, 391 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 11: fight to your strengths. 392 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 9: Let's get it to the floor. Not that he understood 393 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 9: a word I was saying, but. 394 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 11: You know, kind of, you know, I think he followed 395 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 11: the game plan and his stand up is really good. 396 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 9: I believe he could have stood up with him, but 397 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 9: you know, I wasn't there. 398 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 11: I sent al Joe with him, and al Joe's great 399 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 11: with the grappling, so I figured he was going to 400 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 11: be very very you know, coach coach, very very well 401 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 11: with al Joe there on the floor, and al Joe's 402 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 11: great even with the stand up. So I thought he 403 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 11: fought a very smart fight against a big puncher, and 404 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 11: he he took away that guy's game, h you know, 405 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 11: pretty handily. I thought, you know, so really really happy 406 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 11: for him. Can't wait to get him back in the gym, 407 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 11: keep that stand up going. And I think he's you know, 408 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 11: like again, his rec it doesn't show it, but I 409 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 11: can tell you, man, being in the gym with him, 410 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 11: I'm going with that. 411 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 9: The ceiling is really really high for this kid, It 412 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 9: really is. He's very, very talented and he is technical 413 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 9: standing up. I think maybe it just maybe has to 414 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 9: believe in it a little more. But he could do 415 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 9: things that a lot of the guys can't do. I 416 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 9: really loved this kid. 417 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and with his reach, man that he's going 418 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 8: to be a problem. Are you gonna learn Japanese in 419 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 8: the next three to six months? 420 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 9: Right? 421 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: Is that possible? 422 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 9: I give you a good story. Somebody gave me a 423 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 9: translator to you. 424 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 11: So the first time I use, I go simple, I 425 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 11: go hello into the translator, and then the Japanese comes up. 426 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 9: He's laughing. I go, what are you laughing about? 427 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 11: He goes telling me to take a shower. So I 428 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 11: took the I took the translator through it. 429 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 9: In the garbage. I told the poor guy I told 430 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 9: him to take a show was horrible. He's a great sport. 431 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 11: He's you know, he's really good energy for the gym man. 432 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 11: He is a funny dude. 433 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 9: Again. The last six months, really all I into his 434 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 9: head was range, range, and more range. 435 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 11: He's got great range when he wants, and he's got 436 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 11: fabulous angles. 437 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 9: Can you'd like, you'd love to watch this kid work. 438 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 8: That's awesome. And the translator doesn't speak New York. So 439 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 8: that's the problem. 440 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: I think. 441 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, translator wasn't. Oh well that translator, Hey man, listen. 442 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 8: So I got to ask you about your other guy. Obviously, 443 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 8: Aliaquinta was supposed to fight Justin Gaechee. 444 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: That didn't go down. What the hell happened? 445 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 9: Man? 446 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 11: I gotta tell you, man, really really upset. I was 447 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 11: looking forward to that fight. But his body's beat up. 448 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 11: You know, he's been sparring and uh, he just you know, 449 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 11: I think his knees broke down again and then because 450 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 11: of that, his back went out. 451 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 9: So yeah, he was just miserable, like but uh, you know, 452 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 9: I love him. I just feel for him. 453 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 11: I just you know, I just think this is going 454 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 11: to be an ongoing thing. And you know, he was 455 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 11: looking great, that's all I could say. And he was 456 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 11: psyched for the fight. Everybody was psyched for the fight. 457 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 11: But I I feel I just feel for him, I 458 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 11: really do. I think he's in a weird spot with 459 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 11: the injuries, and he wants to do the right thing. 460 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 9: He wants to fight and whatever it. 461 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 8: Is, it isn't anything that requires more surgery or anything 462 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 8: like that. 463 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 9: Or no, I don't think so. I think he's done 464 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 9: with the surg I mean, if he has to go 465 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 9: for surgery again. 466 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: It's just the nature of his knee. Of how it's 467 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: I think it's the. 468 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 9: Nature of the knee. But it was doing good. 469 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 11: But I guess when he picked up the spar and 470 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 11: he was far at some heavier guys, but like not 471 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 11: not crazy's faring. 472 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 9: You know. 473 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 11: It's like Kenny, if your knee goes out and then 474 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 11: you start walking different and the next thing you know, 475 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 11: your backs out. 476 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 9: It's just you know, it's not really like, you know, 477 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 9: another operation. 478 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 11: And I tell you, man, he's so good with the 479 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 11: rehab and every time he comes to the Jimmy does 480 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 11: the same exercises over and over again. Very very disciplined. 481 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 11: But so I think that's what leads to the frustration, 482 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 11: you know what I mean. I think he's doing everything right, 483 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 11: and then if he doesn't feel it, man, I don't know. 484 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, he needs the mind and body to be aligned, 485 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 6: and obviously they aren't going to be for the gay 486 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 6: chief fight. More on that later in the show. But 487 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 6: I got this ray from Bjpenn dot com. And I 488 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 6: know Kenflow's making you sweat there a little bit with 489 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 6: a hard hitting question, but I got a softball for you, 490 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 6: so all right, Bjpenn dot com. According to Robert Whittaker's manager, 491 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 6: Titus Day, Whittaker is hoping to defend his title against 492 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 6: the former champion Chris Widman at UFC two thirty one 493 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 6: in November, expected to occur inside Madison Square Garden in 494 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 6: Widman's native New York state. So again, people thought I 495 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 6: was beaten a Sarah Longo drum and that I was 496 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: injecting Widman into this conversation. The fact of the matter 497 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: is he has a finish over the other guy they're 498 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 6: considering in his last fight. You gotta like the news 499 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 6: that Whittaker would like to get Widman on the resume 500 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 6: and that might be the next fight for your boy. 501 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 11: Listen, man, I don't think they can be better news 502 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 11: than that, you know, so by sort of same thing. 503 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 11: So it's not obviously nothing's finalized yet, but yeah, that'll 504 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 11: be a that'll be a great fight. Looking forward to that, 505 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 11: toe man, it's big stuff. And again it gets him 506 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 11: right back where he wanted to be. And uh yeah, good. 507 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 9: All positive stuff. 508 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 6: It's very interesting too. And when it comes to a 509 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 6: champion calling his shot, right, because this is a two 510 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 6: man race with Calvin Gasolom and Chris Wyman. The fact 511 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 6: that Robert Whittaker wants to go into the belly of 512 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 6: the beast and fight Chris Wyman in New York, I 513 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 6: mean he's already building up the underbelly to that fight, right, 514 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 6: not to mention the fact that getting a guy like 515 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 6: Chris Wyman on your record is something that I'm sure 516 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 6: Whittaker desires. 517 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 9: Which is which I agree with. 518 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 11: I think fighting Chris more Ry, balls are going to 519 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 11: be on that fight than if he fought Gastolum, so 520 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 11: I believe anyway, And that's how I take away from Gasolom. 521 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 9: You know, I always talk highly about him and I 522 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 9: love him. 523 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 11: I'm not sure what kind of a drawer he is, 524 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 11: but I think for this fight that probably would be 525 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 11: a bigger fight. 526 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 9: I would think, Yeah. 527 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: And Ray, is Chris back to hitting with that hand yet? 528 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's back to hitting with the hand. Yes, so good? 529 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 9: Going would so far? So good? Yeah? 530 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: Nice? 531 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 6: All right, we'll get you out of here on this 532 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: obviously a big one this weekend. Steep A meat Chitch, 533 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 6: Daniel Cormier, Max Holloway, Brian Ortega for the UFC Featherweight Championship. 534 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 7: Which way are you leaning in these two fights? 535 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 6: And ultimately just curious to get some extended thoughts on 536 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 6: how you think it'll go for DC returning here to 537 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 6: the heavyweight division. 538 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I love all four guys. 539 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 11: I think all four guys are absolutely fantastic. But I'm 540 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 11: gonna pick obviously Steve Bay because I know him and 541 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 11: I love him, and I just think he's no. DC 542 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 11: did do good with the heavyweight division at Strikeforce. I 543 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 11: think that was a long time ago. I think he's 544 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 11: got a big, big problem with Steve Bee if he 545 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 11: can't get this guy on his back consistently. And Steve 546 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 11: A's got a good gas tank. That's a big boy man. 547 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 11: He hits hard, he's got a good gas tank, and 548 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 11: that should be a look. I'm really looking forward to 549 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 11: the fight, but I'm going with Steve A and I'm 550 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 11: gonna go with Holloway in the second fight. I love 551 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 11: Brian Ortaga. I love the backstory. I think he's got momentum. Also, 552 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 11: he's looks like he's got destiny on his side, But 553 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 11: I think Halloway's fought the better guys, He's got the 554 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 11: more experience, and. 555 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 9: I think he's the guy that beat in that division. 556 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 11: And it might be a little too soon for or Taga, 557 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 11: but we'll find out another great fight that you know, 558 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 11: I really can't wait. 559 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 9: I think they're fantastic matchups. 560 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 6: So are they giving you the VIP treatment the rest 561 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 6: of the weekend after you had ducked your friend Matt 562 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: Sarah into the UFC Hall of Fame Thursday. 563 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 9: I'll let you know on Monday. Just he is like 564 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 9: it's heading in that direction. 565 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 7: But okay, all right, Well I hope so, but I 566 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 7: hope to be. 567 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 11: I definitely have tickets to the fights Friday and Saturday, 568 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 11: which I'm very excited for all. 569 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 9: I have my wife with me. 570 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 7: And she's, yeah, I was gonna ask. 571 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 9: This is big stuff, big stuff, John. 572 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 7: Oh Man, I watch. I'm afraid. 573 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 6: I'm afraid you're gonna throw me off of my game, 574 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 6: you know, fucking around with me because I got to 575 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 6: go out there first off the top of the show 576 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 6: and for me too, and Kenny knows this better than anyone. 577 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 6: I have a hard time sitting still keeping my body tight, 578 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: so in a stuffy Hall of Fame setting doesn't necessarily 579 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 6: dovetail with my skill sets. So I get more nervous 580 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 6: for something like this than I do call in a 581 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 6: big pay per view, So I'm excited to get this 582 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 6: out of the way. 583 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 9: No, this is that. 584 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 11: Look, I say, if we can, I'd love to come 585 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 11: up with a safe word that if I having a 586 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 11: panic attack, you just come over and read the rest 587 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 11: of my speech for me. 588 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 9: Is that going to make that? Can we make that happen? 589 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 6: If we can reciprocate that if something happens to me, 590 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 6: I need you to back me up. 591 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, Like, if if it's somehow I just you know, 592 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 11: blurt out cuckold, you know, just come over. 593 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, oh wow that really Now, I just might 594 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 12: like a Turett's patient up there. 595 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 9: I just might just thought, you know, twitch and. 596 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: Come out and say, oh my goodness, that's enough. That's hilarious. 597 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 6: We're gonna work on us safer safe where when we 598 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: let you go? Thank you, Ray, love you buddy. We'll 599 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 6: see in a few days. 600 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 9: All right, all right, guys, thank you always a pleasure. 601 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: Man, right, thank you. 602 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm telling you he's the best. Hey, long ago. 603 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 6: It's so interesting and some of our listeners are probably 604 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 6: sick of me talking about the Ray Longo minute and 605 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 6: how it originated. It been a part of the show 606 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 6: since episode one. But never did we think that we 607 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 6: would have all of these interesting things happening, whether it's 608 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 6: with Chris Widman or ally A Quinta or al Jamain Sterling, 609 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 6: or that Ray would pick up a guy in ooh 610 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 6: Lukas Sasaki. We were putting him on for the New 611 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 6: York accent and sort of the comedic value. And what's 612 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 6: been really interesting is the fact that all of his 613 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 6: high profile fighters have stayed relevant. Maybe in the case 614 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 6: of Ia Quinta made more headlines than we ever dreamed 615 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 6: of than a guy, and Al Jamaine Sterling, you know, 616 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 6: looks well on his way to contention. So good stuff 617 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: from Longo as usual. First this though from Toyot Tires, 618 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 6: UFC Featherway, Brian t City or Tega absolutely loves the fight, 619 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 6: loves the strategy. You MMA fans know that, But you 620 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 6: know what else, he loves toy Tires because, like orteg At, 621 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 6: Toyo Tires are as tough as they come and they 622 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 6: are the official tire of the UFC. There's a lot 623 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 6: to love about Toyo tires. 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But a 633 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 6: lot of these fighters, Domina Cruz and the rest they're 634 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 6: driving Toyo tires. As we speak, tough people love tough tires. 635 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 6: Toyot tires have been proven time and time again. So 636 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 6: if you are tough, these are the tires for you, 637 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 6: Toyo tires. So the next time you need tires, and 638 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 6: it happens more often than you think, ask for Toyo, 639 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: the official tire of the UFC. Learn more at Toyotires 640 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 6: dot com, slash UFC, Toyotires dot com, slash UFC all Right, 641 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 6: UFC Featherweight Championship Brian Tcity Taga challenging Max Holloway, who 642 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 6: has won his last twelve fights. 643 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 7: A lot of interesting storylines here. 644 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 6: I don't think Max Holloway is gonna be a featherweight forever, 645 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: so we certainly need to enjoy this rain while it lasts. 646 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 6: Brian t city Or Tega has tried to contextualize this fight, 647 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 6: Kenny saying that it's the biggest UFC featherweight title fighter 648 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 6: most anticipated since the fight between Connor McGregor and Jose 649 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 6: Aldo late in twenty fifteen. Again, I'm trying to get 650 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 6: out of my bad habit of speaking in absolutes, but 651 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: this fight just feels absolutely massive, and I think the 652 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: big reason why is because for the first time and 653 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 6: at least several fights, you know, it's closer to a 654 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: pick him and Max Holloway is fighting a guy that 655 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 6: can match some of that size and length and real 656 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 6: featherweight material in Brian Ortega. 657 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: I think that's accurate. 658 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 8: I think it's the biggest featherweight fight since Aldo and McGregor. 659 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think it is that big of a 660 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: fight because we have a. 661 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 8: Guy in Brian Ortega who might just be the dude 662 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 8: he's undefeated, he's fourteen and oh I believe heading into 663 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 8: this fight against Max Holloway, he's a guy who can 664 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 8: beat you in a variety of ways. He's pretty much 665 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 8: finished everybody, right, has he finished everybody in the UFC? 666 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: I have it in front of me. I don't see 667 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 6: any decisions. Yeah, he's finished everybody. 668 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty remarkable. 669 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 8: And then you look at the last few fights, it 670 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 8: seems like he's fighting better competition and looking better and better. 671 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: So that's amazing. 672 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 8: He's a guy who his best asset really is his composure, 673 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 8: his ability to stay grounded, to not get thrown off 674 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 8: by what his opponent is doing, to be able to 675 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 8: adapt and find the answer, whether it's the beginning of 676 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 8: the fight or the end of the fight. In the 677 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 8: very last round, he just finds a way to win, 678 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 8: and he finds a way to put you away. So 679 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 8: this is a guy who came in we knew about 680 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 8: his submission prowess that was definitely on display early in 681 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 8: his career. Now we're seeing him knock guys out and 682 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 8: knocking guys out that have never been knocked out for 683 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 8: and a former one hundred and fifty five pound champion, 684 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 8: and Frankie Edgar, a guy who's a sure bet to 685 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 8: be a Hall of Famer. It's amazing what he's done. 686 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 8: And he did that on short notice, by the way, 687 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 8: we can't forget about that, So. 688 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 689 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 8: And we have a guy in Max Holloway who has 690 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 8: defeated the greatest featherweight champion of all time and Josialdo 691 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 8: not once but twice and finished him both times in 692 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 8: the third round. So these guys are destined for greatness. 693 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 8: One of them certainly is, and we're gonna find out 694 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 8: which one. And I think with both these guys and 695 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 8: all their weapons and all their abilities to finish the 696 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 8: fight and the confidence that they're bringing into this, one 697 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 8: one of these guys will go down as an all 698 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 8: time great And I think that's what's putting everybody on 699 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 8: the edge of their seats. 700 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 7: I think so too right. 701 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: And it's hard to provide any context really for Brian 702 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 6: Ortega's career. This is first championship opportunity. He's a guy 703 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 6: not onlike Max Holloway that many people in Vision events 704 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 6: actually making a run up a division in a premiere 705 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five pounds UFC division in which 706 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 6: the top ten, everybody you fight in the top ten 707 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 6: is a big fight at one hundred and fifty five pounds. 708 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 6: I can't wait to see how this plays out. And 709 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 6: you still in my thunder a little bit in terms 710 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 6: of the Brian Ortega evolution because he's still just twenty 711 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 6: seven years old, and we all remember after wins he's 712 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: humbly asking, you know, I can't wait to meet my 713 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 6: equal in a mixed martial arts setting. I mean, this 714 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: guy has developed a fan base organically. He's the antithesis 715 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 6: of a guy like Colby Covington in a lot of ways, 716 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 6: has just gone about everything in the sport seemingly the 717 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 6: right way. And I think you're going to see that. 718 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 6: I think you might see a pro Brian Ortega crowd 719 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 6: in Las Vegas Saturday night when he takes on the 720 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: champion Max all theway. 721 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: So John and you nailed it. 722 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 8: Just to go off of what you said, he hasn't 723 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 8: taken the road of trash talking his opponents and saying, 724 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 8: you know, he'll never be beaten in all this stuff. 725 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 8: He's a confident fire, no doubt about it. But you 726 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 8: know he's a guy who's out there, you know, promoting 727 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 8: his Brian or take a foundation and basically has gotten 728 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 8: all these fans from his performances. 729 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: So it's awesome to see that. 730 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 6: Well finishes are the best way to get fans, right. 731 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 6: I mean that's especially in a spot like he was 732 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 6: in back in March against Frankie Edgar to produce like that. 733 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 6: He does have championship experience too, I mean outside the UFC, 734 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 6: he has been a champion. He has gone five rounds 735 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: twice before, and a lot of people think if this 736 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 6: one goes twenty five minutes, you're looking at an instant classic. 737 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 6: In terms of Max Holloway and the wake cut. You know, 738 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 6: just because a guy always makes way Kenny doesn't mean 739 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 6: that there's anything easy about it. And at least at 740 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 6: this stage of their respective careers and given their frames, 741 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: it seems like this is a harder fight before the 742 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 6: fight for Max Holloway. So you know, I think Demetrius 743 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 6: Johnson's record is in good standing. I think Max Holloway 744 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 6: is going to move up sooner rather than later. I think, 745 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 6: depending on the result this Saturday night, it could be 746 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 6: the last time we see Max Holloway at one forty five. 747 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 8: I agree with you man, and obviously we spoke with 748 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 8: Tyler Minton. He would like to see his fighter at 749 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty five pounds, And no one's gonna 750 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 8: know about weight cuts better than Tyler in regards to 751 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 8: Max Holloway, So yes, he does cut a lot of weight. 752 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 8: Ortega is a good sized featherweight, now Halloway. Halloway is 753 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 8: a huge featherweight. And you were talking about the age 754 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 8: of Ortega. Halloway's even younger. He's even younger, and he's 755 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 8: had a tremendous amount of experience in the UFC, facing 756 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 8: high level guys like Connor McGregor, and he's dealt with 757 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 8: you know, you know, knowing how to lose and knowing 758 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 8: how to come back and going on this crazy wind 759 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 8: streak that he's on. Yeah, I think this is a 760 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 8: fighter that's gonna be very, very difficult to beat right now. 761 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 8: But I agree with you this might be the last 762 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 8: time because the other thing is, I know he has 763 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 8: mentioned that he would like to fight the legend Frankie 764 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 8: Edgar at some point in his career. But I mean, 765 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 8: you know, he if he beats Ortega, he would beat 766 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 8: the guy that finished Frankie Edgar. I don't know if 767 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 8: that makes a lot of sense for him to wait around. 768 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 8: I think that would still be a big fight if 769 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 8: he decides to do that. But I think Frankie's the 770 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 8: only guy that's left in that division, So I agree 771 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 8: with you. I wouldn't be surprised for him to go back, 772 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 8: go up to one fifty five and maybe challenge for 773 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 8: the belt right off the bat. 774 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and in terms of featherweight legacy, you're not gonna 775 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 6: do better than two head to head finishes of Jose Aldo. Right. 776 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 6: I can understand why, in terms of his his mixed 777 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 6: martial arts legacy, the Max Holloway would want to beat 778 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 6: Frankie Edgar before moving up. I can understand that because 779 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 6: Max is a guy that does care about his all 780 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 6: time status. But I think his days, sooner rather than later, 781 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 6: are going to be at one hundred and fifty five pounds. 782 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 6: One other fight I want to hit on before we 783 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 6: get into the picks and the main event challenge Francis 784 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 6: and Ganu taken on the Black Beast Derek Lewis. You know, 785 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 6: I was asked earlier this morning on the radio, you know, 786 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 6: over under a round. I actually think that this thing 787 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 6: might see a second round. It's going to be It's 788 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 6: gonna be damn fun to watch as it goes down. 789 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 6: I mean, these are the type of fights. As fun 790 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 6: as they are to call, I think they're even more 791 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 6: fun to sit back with jaw dropped and just watch 792 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 6: as it unfolds between just two massive, powerful heavy. 793 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 8: You know, this is a testament to the card that 794 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 8: you know, the strength of the card that not you know, 795 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 8: I don't know why, but I'm surprised that not as 796 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 8: many people are talking about this fantastic fight. You know, 797 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 8: these guys are two heavyweights that can finish the fight 798 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 8: in an instant. Both these guys have excellent chins as well, though, 799 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 8: so I agree we might see it go to the 800 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 8: second round, maybe even to the third. 801 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: If we do, uh, we will have an absolute classic. 802 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 8: I'm curious to see how Francis and Gano Beck's you know, 803 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 8: comes back from his last fight against Steve A. Already 804 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 8: calling for a rematch against Steve A Michiic. He better 805 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 8: stay focused though, on Derek Lewis, because Lewis is a 806 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 8: guy who's not gonna be afraid to throw down. He's 807 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 8: gonna go for it. Derek just kind of has that 808 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 8: I don't really care attitude when he walks in the fights, 809 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 8: which makes him that much more dangerous. 810 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: Uh So this is gonna be interesting. Man. 811 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 7: It's a heavyweight dream fight. 812 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 6: I mean, there's no belt online, but I think if 813 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 6: you were sort of playing fantasy mma, this is a 814 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 6: fight that a lot of people wanted to put together. 815 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 6: And I think it sort of speaks to Derek Lewis's 816 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 6: overall approach that he wants to fight you know, Goliath, right, 817 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 6: I mean that is Derek Lewis. I know the Verdoom 818 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 6: fight went away and that was disappointing for him day 819 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 6: of several months ago, but he wants Francis and Ghanu. 820 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 6: You know, you could be sure DC beats Stepe. The 821 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 6: last name on the tip of his tongue is going 822 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 6: to be Francis and Ghano. So all right, we'll see 823 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 6: how that fight plays out. And real quick, just want 824 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 6: to get your thoughts on this whole thing with Platinum, 825 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 6: Mike Perry taken on Paul Felder. I know we touched 826 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 6: on it briefly with Ray Longo at least in the 827 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 6: angle for ally at Quinta, but now justin Gatchee takes 828 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 6: on James Vick and I think more saliently to this conversation, 829 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 6: Paul Felder moves up his training camp a week and 830 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 6: now he will take on Platinum Mike Perry in the 831 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 6: welterweight division. He was about one hundred and eighty pounds 832 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 6: when he got the call. Your thoughts on the new 833 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 6: fight that we have here in six days between Paul 834 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 6: Felder and Platinum Mike Perry. 835 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 8: Well, listen, I'm glad for Felder, who has missed the 836 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 8: last couple of fights due to you know, his opponents 837 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 8: dropping out whatever. That finally he's able to get a fight. 838 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 8: It's an exciting one man, and I think Felder is 839 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 8: one of those lightweights that could easily fight at welterweight 840 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 8: if he wanted to. 841 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: He's huge for the division, so to see him. 842 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 8: Fight at weltwaite, he's probably happy at this point, doesn't 843 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 8: have to cut as much weight to get as similar 844 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 8: to what we were talking about with Daniel Cormick, He's 845 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 8: gonna be in a much better mood. He's gonna have 846 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 8: a lot more energy heading into this fight against Mike Perry, 847 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 8: and he's going against another guy who loves to strike 848 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 8: and that's what Felder likes to do, so I think 849 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 8: this fight is absolutely going to deliver some serious action. 850 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 6: Well, and you think about the Boise Idaho show was 851 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 6: a co main event, so Paul Felder was on the poster. 852 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 6: But he's fighting the six foot three inch James Vick right, 853 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 6: a guy who is similarly ranked but not entrenched in 854 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 6: that magical top seven that can really expedite a run 855 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 6: to the top. So in terms of upside, he just 856 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 6: got added to International Fight Week, to the biggest pay 857 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 6: per view of the year. I know he's fighting in 858 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 6: a prelam on FS one and to your point, doesn't 859 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 6: have to cut weight, which is absolutely no picnic for him. 860 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and of. 861 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 6: Course taking on a guy and planting to Mike Perry 862 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 6: that's gonna meet him on a napkin in the center 863 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 6: of the octagon. 864 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: You know. 865 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 7: So a lot of upside and it's been interesting. 866 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 6: We'll get into it later with the betting line a 867 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 6: whole lot to get to ten total picks coming up 868 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 6: from Ken Flow. 869 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 7: Let's get to it. In the main event challenge, it's. 870 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 4: The main event challenge. 871 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: The time is most definitely. 872 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 13: Hi fished fight. 873 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,479 Speaker 4: How do you everything box we'll do win the main 874 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 4: event challenge to John Nnick and Kenny Flourian podcast. 875 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 7: All right, we update the standings. 876 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 6: Team Annict led at seventy five sixty two going into 877 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 6: UFC Singapore. You went head to head with Josh Hayner. 878 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 6: Nice underdog play on ovin Saint Prue. Out of the flow, 879 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 6: but four to four. At the end of the week. 880 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 6: It is seventy nine sixty six heading into International Fight Week. 881 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 6: But this is your chance to make up some ground. 882 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 6: Ten picks, nine of which are on the lineup for 883 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 6: UFC two twenty six. We have two guest pickers today. 884 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 6: First out of the shoot from the two six to two. 885 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 6: Claudia Peterson is with us. Claudia, how are you today? 886 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 10: I'm doing great. Thank you for having me. 887 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 6: You got a great tone to your voice. Claudia, It's 888 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 6: good to have you. Is that Southeastern Wisconsin two six two? 889 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 10: You know, yes, the two sixth to two. It is southeastern Wisconsin. 890 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 10: My father in law is from there, but I actually 891 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 10: live in Saint Paul, Minnesota. 892 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 6: Okay, so you big fight fan? Have you heard of 893 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 6: Kenny Florian before today? 894 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 10: I am a big fight fan and I have heard 895 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 10: of Kenny Florian and if I could just add, I 896 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 10: am actually originally from Peru, so. 897 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, get out of here. That's so cool. 898 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 10: Yes, I'm from Peru, but grew up in the Miami, 899 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 10: Florida area, ended up in the Midwest because of my husband. 900 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: So there's some good Savice restaurants in Miami. 901 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 10: There's many good Savica restaurants down in Miami. And I 902 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 10: really missed that. We don't really have a lot of 903 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 10: that uppere in Saint Paul. 904 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: I imagine. Oh that's that's that's cool. 905 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 6: That's pretty I like the Peruvian love on the show today. 906 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 6: I wish we were still talking about the soccer outfit 907 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 6: in the world. But there's always twenty twenty two, all right, 908 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 6: First fight up for debate today. This is the main 909 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 6: event for the Ultimate Fighter Finale for headlining spot for 910 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 6: both guys Israel Atasnia and Brad Tavores, Last Style Bender. 911 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 6: Atasanya the favorite here minus one sixty. Brad Tavores has 912 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 6: the bad wheel, so we'll see how the footholds up. 913 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 6: He is the plus one thirty underdog. Claudia Atasanya versus Tavaris. 914 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 7: Who will it be for you? 915 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 10: You know I am going to go with Tavares by 916 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 10: third round, Tiko. I just think this is going to 917 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 10: come down to experience, and Tavares has the experience. Although 918 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 10: Adasagna is undefeated, you know, Tavares hasn't lost since twenty fifteen, 919 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 10: and two of his last three losses have been to 920 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 10: the current champ, Whittaker and then Romero. So I've got 921 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 10: Brat Tavarus on this one. 922 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I can flow for Tavares. 923 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 6: You do have to feel good for him getting this 924 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 6: main event nod here and what will be his seventeenth 925 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 6: UFC appearance. Four wins in a row, five of his 926 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 6: last six and the only loss in there a force 927 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 6: to one Robert Whittaker. The question, I think, Kenny is 928 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 6: just how healthy is Brad Tavares. There were some rubblings 929 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 6: that this fight would go away and here it is 930 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 6: holding up, and I think we all respect for Tavores 931 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 6: for staying in there. But I think at least for 932 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 6: gamblers listening to this knowing that context would give you 933 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 6: some pause, at least when you're going to the betting 934 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 6: window to lay down some cake on Brad Tavoris this week. 935 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 8: I hear you, and that's why Claudia has me so 936 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 8: nervous making this pick because Tavares does have the experience advantage. 937 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 8: I also think he can win this fight by just 938 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 8: repeatedly taking out his Sonya down and using his submission game, 939 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 8: using his ground and pound, and just slowing out of 940 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 8: Sonya down and kind of shutting down his offense. However, 941 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 8: I do need points. I have heard the rumors about 942 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 8: Tavares possibly being injured. I gotta go without a Sonya here, all. 943 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 6: Right, UFC two twenty six, Saturday Night. This is a prelim. 944 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 6: We just referenced Paul Felder stepping up to welterweight here 945 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 6: to face platinum Mike Perry. So the sportsbook that I 946 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 6: use does not have this fight on the board right now, 947 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 6: So you guys can proceed as if it's a pick 948 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 6: him and will adjust accordingly. When it opened, it looked 949 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 6: like Perry was a massive favorite. Now in some spots 950 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 6: it looks as though Paul Felder is actually a slight 951 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 6: a favorite. Very interesting fight here, Claudia, how do you 952 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 6: see a plan out between Paul Felder and Mike Perry. 953 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 10: You know, I think Paul Felder is going to get 954 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 10: the win here, and I think he'll probably get a 955 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 10: late round Kotko. I think he's going to be able 956 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 10: to defend well those possible take dun attempts from Mike Perry. 957 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 10: I think he's definitely going to utilize those spinning back 958 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 10: kicks and he's going to tire Perry out as we 959 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 10: have seen the last two fights for Perry, and he's 960 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 10: probably going to get a knockout late in the third 961 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 10: round this way. 962 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ken Flow, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mike 963 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 6: Perry try to mix in his wrestling. It's something he 964 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 6: talked about leading into the Max Griffin fight. It is 965 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 6: a two fight losing streak though for Platinum Mike Perry 966 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 6: at present Santiago Ponzinibo and then the aforementioned Max Griffin. 967 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 6: He is now at Jackson Wink MMA and Albuquerque, New Mexico, 968 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 6: working closely with Frank Lester and the rest. Your thoughts 969 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 6: on Perry in a huge spot for him this weekend 970 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 6: against Paul Felder, Yeah. 971 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 8: You know, listen, I just think I think Mike Perry 972 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 8: hits harder. I think he's the more powerful strike or 973 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 8: when it comes to the boxing, but I think Felder 974 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 8: just has more weapons. I think, you know, you talk 975 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 8: about his elbows, his kicking game, his knees, his ability 976 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 8: to tye clinch properly and effectively. I think Felder just 977 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 8: has more ways to win. And even you know, for 978 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 8: Mike Perry, yes, he could take it down and ground 979 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 8: and pound and get maybe a t K or knockout 980 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 8: that way. But I just think that Felder has seen 981 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 8: everything that Mike Perry is coming to the table with, 982 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 8: and I think Felder's just the more technical fighter. I 983 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 8: think Felder wins this, all. 984 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 6: Right, Paul Felder trying to make it four consecutive wins. 985 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 6: He has won his last three, all of them by knockout. 986 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 6: All right, Next a big one here, guys. At one 987 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pounds, the grossly underappreciated halfay Ella 988 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 6: SNSAL minus won seventy five favorite against perhaps New England's 989 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 6: best hope for UFC glory right now. 990 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 7: I mean, we got Manny Bermudez. 991 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 6: Of course, Ken Flow out of South Shore Sports fighting 992 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 6: there in Abington, Massachusetts. 993 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 7: But Rob font is a bantamweight contender right now. 994 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 6: That's why he's getting the A Sun South Fight fought 995 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 6: is plus one forty five Claudia, who will it be 996 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 6: Rob Font or Hafela Sunsu. 997 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 10: I think it's going to be Rafaela Sanshou by decision. 998 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 10: I think although both men have a great knockout power, 999 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 10: I think Asansao is just a more powerful striker, and 1000 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 10: just the fact that he switches stands this a lot 1001 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 10: and keeps you almost guessing throughout a fight is going 1002 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 10: to confuse Rob Font, and he's going to force Rob 1003 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 10: Fund to lead and will just counter him the entire time. 1004 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 6: Sunsaw very smart fighter for sure, And Kenny, what else 1005 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 6: can you say about this guy? I mean, certainly on 1006 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 6: the short list of the best fighters and most deserving 1007 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 6: to have never fought for a UFC title. Ten and one, 1008 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty five pounds only lost in there 1009 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 6: to the current CHAMF TJ. Dillashaw, whom he beat back 1010 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 6: in twenty thirteen, and he gets another dangerous finisher here 1011 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 6: in Rob Font. Your thoughts on this one this weekend? 1012 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, Hafela Sunsao really doesn't know what it means 1013 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 8: to lose in the UFC, So I'm amazed with his consistency, 1014 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 8: his high level of competition. I think he has faced 1015 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 8: guys that are a little bit tougher than Rob Fund, 1016 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 8: a little bit more dangerous than Rob fun Font is dangerous. 1017 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 8: There's no doubt he's going to be fast, He's precise 1018 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 8: with his strikes. I just think, I just think a 1019 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 8: sun Sow is just he has he has too much game, 1020 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 8: too much game for Funt. I think a Sunsaw wins 1021 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 8: this all right. 1022 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 6: Next up, I know Kenny likes this Curtis Milliner kid, 1023 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 6: and so does Las Vegas. Here he's the minus one 1024 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 6: seventy favorite against Max Griffin. He comes back at plus 1025 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 6: one point forty. I guess a couple of intriguing welterweights here, Claudia, 1026 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 6: Depending on who you talk to, which one are you 1027 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 6: back in this weekend? 1028 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 7: Curtis Millander or Max Payn Griffin. 1029 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 10: I'm going to go with Curtis Millinger by second round. 1030 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 10: Koor t Ko he has some very impressive knockouts lately 1031 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 10: and again just looks like the more powerful fighter, and 1032 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 10: he's going to just keep it on the feet until 1033 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 10: he can knock out Max Griffin. 1034 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,479 Speaker 7: Can flow. 1035 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 6: Griffin coming off the biggest win of his career by 1036 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 6: far against Platinum Mike Perry his last time out, but 1037 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 6: he is the underd here against Curtis Millander, who beat 1038 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 6: thiagu Albez in his UFC debut, left with a performance 1039 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 6: bonus his seventh consecutive win. 1040 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 7: Does Milander make it eight this weekend? 1041 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 8: Can I just say Claudia really knows her stuff. She's 1042 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 8: making prove very proud right now, very impressed. I gotta agree. 1043 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 8: I think, listen, I think Max Griffin's one of those 1044 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 8: guys who has He's a solid fighter, doesn't make a 1045 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 8: whole lot of mistakes, He's relatively consistent. But Curtis Milinder 1046 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 8: just has that extra special quality and I think him 1047 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 8: being the longer guy, he knows how to use his 1048 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 8: reach and mix in some very dangerous strikes. 1049 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: I think Millinder is the guy who's gonna win this fight. 1050 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 7: All right. 1051 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 6: Two plays there for Curtis Millander in the minus one 1052 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 6: seventy range and finally Claudia on the way out a 1053 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 6: UFC fight pass preliament lightweight and I wanted some opinions 1054 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 6: on this fight because I love it. Dan Hooker minus 1055 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 6: won sixty five, Gilbert Durino Burns plus one thirty five, 1056 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 6: Claudia Hooker or Burns for you. 1057 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, this was a really tough one to think about, 1058 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 10: but I'm actually going to go with Gilbert Burns by submission, 1059 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 10: probably in the second round. 1060 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 5: Again. 1061 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 10: These two guys have both excellent knockout power, but I 1062 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 10: think Burns is gonna have to rely on his BJJ 1063 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 10: skills for this one. I'm considering the sizestscrepancy and he's 1064 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 10: gonna be able to get Hooker down on the ground 1065 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 10: and get a submission win. 1066 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 6: All right, Gilbert Durinho Burns canny out an absolute tear. 1067 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,479 Speaker 6: Both of these guys are. I think Dan Hooker's really 1068 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 6: been bullied by a lot of things in his career, 1069 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 6: moving back up to one hundred and fifty five pounds 1070 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 6: for sure, but also the success of fellow Kiwis and Australians. 1071 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 6: I think that this is just a confident group right 1072 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 6: now that is sort of supporting each other, piggybacking upon 1073 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 6: one another. He trains with israel A da SONI there 1074 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 6: in New Zealand. What do you think Hooker and Burns? 1075 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 7: Who do you like? 1076 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 13: Claudia? You gotta give me one of these. Come on, 1077 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 13: stop making these good picks here, geez. Dan Hooker is 1078 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 13: very dangerous. I think he's tall, he's rangy. As you said, 1079 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 13: he's on a nice win streak right now, feeling very 1080 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 13: confident heading into this fight. But having worked with Gilbert 1081 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 13: Burns and knowing his work ethic and seeing what he's 1082 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 13: capable of and coming off uh you know that devastating 1083 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 13: knockout win uh in his last one. 1084 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 11: Uh. 1085 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 8: Birds is very hungry right now, very motivated. I think 1086 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 8: Gilbert wins this one. I think he has more ways 1087 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 8: to win. Yes, Dan Hooker can knock him out as well, 1088 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 8: but Birds has crazy power and we all know about 1089 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 8: his brigial jiu jitsu prowess. Is the former world jiu 1090 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 8: jitsu champion. I like Burns. 1091 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 7: And how about Claudia Peterson stealing ken flows? 1092 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 1: Thun, Where do you find these people? 1093 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 8: And he finds the greatest minds out there on the 1094 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 8: internet talking about fights. 1095 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, when ken flow's changed in diapers, Claudia is 1096 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 6: on the internet researching mixed martial. 1097 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: My goodness, you know something. 1098 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 10: I also changed diapers though I just had child. 1099 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh congratulations, that's awesome. She does it all. 1100 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, congratulations boy or girl, Claudia, I have a son. 1101 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 6: Amazing congratulations and thanks to you guys as well. 1102 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: Great job, it's our pleasure. 1103 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 6: Hopefully you enjoy the fights a little more this weekend 1104 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 6: knowing you're going head to head with Ken Flow. Claudia 1105 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 6: Peterson only the third or fourth woman actually Ken Flow. 1106 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 6: I think to make picks here on the show. We 1107 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 6: encourage more of that. Annichlorian podcast at gmail dot com 1108 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 6: if you would like to make selections head to head 1109 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 6: against Ken Flow in the main event challenge, Annik Florian 1110 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 6: podcast at gmail dot com. So I'm just going to 1111 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 6: rifle through a couple of other of these fights while 1112 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 6: we get ready for Robbie Fox. Here Michael Kisa and 1113 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 6: Anthony showtime Pettis. So this fight was supposed to happen 1114 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 6: obviously back in April UFC two twenty three, I believe. 1115 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 6: And Anthony Pettis, I think for a while there it 1116 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 6: looked like he was going to fight Ubibnrmago Medov. On 1117 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 6: fight day, Kisa taken out of the fight because he 1118 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 6: had the glass in his head courtesy of the Connor 1119 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 6: McGregor Dolly. But this is the type of big name 1120 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 6: opponent that Michael Kiessa has been trying to get on 1121 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 6: his resume as a springboard to lightweight contention. Kisa hasn't 1122 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 6: fought a whole lot. He's favored to beat Showtime Pettis 1123 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 6: this weekend, and I think if he gets this one, 1124 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 6: he'll be in that conversation that he's really been trying 1125 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 6: to get in since the beginning of twenty sixty. 1126 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 9: Well. 1127 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 8: I think this is the kind of fight for me 1128 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 8: that Michael Kiosa needs to win in a word, to say, Okay, 1129 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 8: this guy, you know, can really make a run at 1130 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 8: this title. I think those are the kind of guys 1131 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 8: you have to beat. A guy and Anthony Pettis a 1132 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 8: former champion, one hundred thty five pounds, a guy that 1133 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 8: is really dangerous everywhere, a guy with a tremendous amount 1134 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 8: of experience. If Kiosa can get this win, then I 1135 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 8: think he's on his way. 1136 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to talk to Anthony Showtime Pettis tomorrow 1137 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 6: when we do the Fighter Calls, because one thing that 1138 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 6: he spoke about as he was getting ready for the 1139 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 6: Kisa fight was that he had basically eliminated regular wrestling 1140 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 6: from his training regimen and the long trips to go 1141 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 6: see Izzy in the Midwest, and he felt like getting 1142 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 6: back to the dynamic athlete that rose to the top 1143 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 6: and reacted instinctively to what happened inside the octagon would 1144 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 6: be the better guy. It's gonna be interesting to see 1145 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 6: if he actually leaned on the wrestling a little bit 1146 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 6: now that he had the extra few months to prepare 1147 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,760 Speaker 6: for Michael Kiessa, but now with us to make picks 1148 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 6: for the pay per view main card. Just like Kenfill, 1149 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 6: this guy does not do prelims. Folks on Twitter, you 1150 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,720 Speaker 6: can find him at Robbie Barstool. The Great Robbie Fox 1151 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 6: is with us. Robbie, Good afternoon, man. 1152 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 9: How are you great? 1153 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 5: How are you guys? 1154 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 6: Well, we're doing well and we certainly appreciate you taking 1155 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 6: the time. Before we get to the picks, though, I 1156 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 6: just need to acknowledge publicly, at least for our listeners, 1157 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 6: your work and support of Connor McGregor outside the courthouse 1158 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 6: a few weeks ago. I know I messaged you privately, 1159 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 6: but you were loud, man. I thought you were authoritative. 1160 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 6: He certainly heard you. You're the King, Connor, dude. I've 1161 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 6: watched it like ten times, so I know. I mean, obviously, 1162 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 6: none of us can doone what Connor was doing with 1163 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 6: the Dolly, except for you and a few handful of others. 1164 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 6: But I mean that day had to go about as 1165 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 6: well as you had projected when you left your house 1166 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 6: that morn. 1167 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 5: Oh my god, it was like a dream come true. 1168 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 5: We showed up to the courthouse super early. We were 1169 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 5: like really trying to find it. For a while, we 1170 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 5: didn't know where it was. As soon as we showed up, 1171 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 5: Connor and his whole squad pulled up, and I was 1172 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 5: just causing a scene. I was screaming into the top 1173 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 5: of my lungs that the dolly slipped that Connor didn't 1174 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 5: mean to throw it, that if he did mean to 1175 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,959 Speaker 5: throw it, the bus driver axed him. 1176 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 9: To throw it. 1177 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 5: It was It was a scene. I think. I was 1178 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 5: quoted in the New York Times and the New York 1179 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 5: Daily News saying that, you know, if Connor did do 1180 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 5: anything wrong, who cares let him go? It was crazy. 1181 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 5: And the fact that you know, I was kind of 1182 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 5: brought over to where Connor would be to meet him 1183 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 5: was absolutely insane. I mean, John, he put his left 1184 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 5: hand on my shoulder to take a picture with me. 1185 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,720 Speaker 5: Robbie had to be at least twenty pounds. 1186 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 8: We're seeing that picture right now, and I think you're right. 1187 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 8: I think it's ridiculous that the bus was in the 1188 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 8: way of that dolly. I mean, what it's irresponsible of 1189 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 8: that bus driver to park that bus right there in 1190 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 8: the way of Connor practicing his throws. 1191 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 5: Finally, someone's talking cens around here. 1192 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree it is. 1193 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't a chance meeting though, as we 1194 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 6: hear from you there. I mean, he seemed just as 1195 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 6: excited to meet you as you were him. I thought 1196 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 6: that's what made it's so powerful. He was genuinely excited 1197 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 6: to meet you. He's got the damn thumbs up in 1198 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,479 Speaker 6: the picture. I mean, what else do you want? 1199 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 9: Man? 1200 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 5: It was crazy. He actually he followed me on Twitter 1201 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 5: like the week before, and I thought like, oh my god, 1202 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,240 Speaker 5: I can't get better than this. You know, Connor McGregor, 1203 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 5: I have. I'll pull up the DM every now and then, 1204 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 5: and I've never shot him a message, but I just 1205 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 5: want to know that I can if I want to. 1206 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 5: You know, I was over the moon. I couldn't believe it. 1207 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 5: And then for us to meet the next week, it 1208 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 5: was it was crazy. I'll be back outside the courthouse, 1209 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 5: you know, later this month. 1210 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 6: Of course, as well, we know you will. But dude, 1211 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 6: you got that direct line now with Connor McGregor. It's 1212 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 6: a very powerful thing. I mean you know that in 1213 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 6: that moment, the only thing that he was thinking about 1214 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 6: was Robbie Fox. 1215 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 5: That's true. I would be shocked if I wasn't walking 1216 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 5: him out to the octagon his next fight. 1217 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 6: I go, well, I you know, I mean, it took 1218 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 6: the words out of my mouth. I think there's something 1219 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 6: in your future. Maybe during fight week he will request 1220 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 6: to only interview with you or something, which I think 1221 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 6: would be very exciting. But we got to get to 1222 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 6: the picks. I think you're very talented, obviously, so does 1223 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 6: Barstool Sports, and they've recognized that you're a massive UFC though, 1224 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 6: So I wanted to bring you on to make some 1225 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 6: picks today. First fight on the main card Gokin Saki 1226 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 6: minus one fifty, Khalil Rountree Junior, the slight underdog at 1227 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 6: plus one twenty. 1228 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 7: Some bad blood here. We like heat. 1229 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 6: These guys don't like each other. They've been booked to 1230 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 6: fight before it shall be done Saturday night. Robbie, who 1231 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 6: do you like? Go Kansaki or Khalil Rowntree Junior. 1232 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 5: So I do want to preface this with the fact 1233 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 5: that you just said I'm a massive UFC fan, and 1234 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 5: that is very true. I am far from what you 1235 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,879 Speaker 5: would call an analyst, So I'm gonna try my best here. 1236 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 5: I think I have a good grasp of a lot 1237 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 5: of these fights, and in this one, I'm taking the dog. 1238 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm taking Roundtree. I don't think either one of these 1239 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 5: guys has necessarily the best cardio. Sake never like really 1240 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 5: showed issues with it in K one or Glory or 1241 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 5: anything like that. But he had that one UFC fight 1242 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 5: in September and it was a first round knockout over 1243 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 5: Henrik da Silva, and right after it he was completely guessed. 1244 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 5: And it could be Jitters, it could be I know 1245 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 5: there was a long layoff, but I think he is 1246 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 5: the superior striker. I just think from what I've seen 1247 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 5: in the octagon, Roundtree hits harder. I think this one's 1248 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 5: going to be either overfast or with a quick knockout 1249 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 5: from either one of these guys, or it's going to 1250 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 5: be kind of a grinding out win from Rowntree. Because 1251 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 5: we haven't seen Sake have to face grappling in the past. 1252 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 5: Khalil not a superior amazing wrestler, but I think he 1253 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,240 Speaker 5: can neutralize Saki. 1254 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Roundtree has worked very hard Kenny 1255 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 6: on his conditioning, so it'll be there late in round 1256 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 6: three if need be a lot of amateur MMA experience 1257 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,959 Speaker 6: as well for Khalil Rowntree Junior, who obviously has more 1258 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 6: MMA experience than his counterpart go Kan Saki. Pro MMA 1259 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 6: debut for him was in two thousand and four, and 1260 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 6: then his next fight was his UFC debut that Robbie 1261 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 6: referenced there a knockout late last year. So Saki or 1262 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 6: Roundtree Junior as the slight dog ken Flow, who do 1263 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 6: you like? 1264 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: Listen? 1265 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 8: I think this is excellent matchmaking here. I think Roundtree 1266 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 8: is definitely capable of getting the win here over the 1267 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 8: legendary striker go Kan Saki, but I don't think he 1268 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 8: gets it done here. I think Saki is going to 1269 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 8: be a little bit too quick for I think he 1270 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 8: lands the more precise strikes and gets a knockout probably 1271 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 8: early in this fight. 1272 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 6: All right, next up at one hundred and fifty five pounds. 1273 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 6: We talked about it briefly there. Michael Kisa minus one 1274 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 6: sixty Anthony Showtime Pettis coming back as the plus one 1275 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 6: forty underdog. Robbie Fox, You're gonna take the guy in 1276 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 6: Kiessa who was unfit to fight because of the Dolly incident. 1277 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 6: I mean, as a Connor McGregor guy. I'm not sure 1278 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 6: how you can back Kiessa this weekend. 1279 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 5: You know what, it was tough, but we're gonna have 1280 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 5: to let bygones teak bygones and say hand up. That's on, Connor. 1281 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 5: I'm taking Kisa in this one. But this one is 1282 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 5: so tricky because I think, no matter what I would 1283 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 5: love for this to be a war, I think it's 1284 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 5: gonna be one sided one way or the other. I 1285 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 5: think either Michael Kios is gonna go out there with 1286 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 5: a great game plan where he pressures and has has 1287 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 5: Pettis on his back foot. And really, I mean the 1288 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 5: thing I would like to see him do is get 1289 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 5: inside the pocket like Poorier did. Obviously he's not the 1290 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 5: striker that Pourier is, but I could also see Pettis 1291 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 5: coming out and just like kind of annihilating Kisa with 1292 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 5: kicks and and just really fast jabs. I don't know 1293 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 5: what kind of version, what version of Pettis we'll see 1294 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 5: in the octagon, though, because he's not the fighter he 1295 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 5: once was. I mean no disrespect by that, but it 1296 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 5: seemed like for a long time, you know, he was 1297 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 5: so ahead of the game, and so who could ever 1298 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 5: possibly beat Anthony Pettis. And now he's on part with 1299 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 5: a lot of these guys. So I do think Kiyos 1300 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 5: is gonna get this one done. His hands are like 1301 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 5: deceptively heavy, where he you know, seriously rocks Masvidal a 1302 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 5: few years ago. And I do think if he uses 1303 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 5: his length as well as he normally does, but then 1304 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 5: also transitions and gets inside the pocket and pressures and 1305 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 5: just keeps up a rabid pace, I do think Kisa 1306 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 5: could get this one done. I think he has the 1307 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 5: advantage on the ground as well. If this one goes 1308 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 5: to the ground, I can't see any way where Anthony Pettis, 1309 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 5: who is a great grappler, can submit Kiesa just because 1310 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 5: of his crazy length. 1311 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 6: Oh, he is just massive and he should be fresh Kenny. 1312 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 6: Since twenty fifteen, Yesa has been in the octagon for 1313 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 6: less than eleven minutes. Pettis has had six fights in 1314 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 6: that time. Not sure if that's a factor, but Kiesa 1315 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 6: just has not fought a lot he's been out of sight, 1316 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 6: out of mind. 1317 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 7: Which way you go, and kid ki Petes. 1318 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: Well, Kis, it will be fresher. 1319 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 8: He'll also be very hungry heading into this fight against 1320 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 8: Anthony Pettis. And you look at you know, the fights 1321 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 8: that they've had. Pettis has taken a lot of damage 1322 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 8: in his last few fights. Geez, you know, this is 1323 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 8: a tough one for me when I look at the skills, 1324 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 8: when I look at the skills of the fighter, to me, 1325 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 8: Anthony Pettis is just the more skillful fighter. I think 1326 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 8: there's more ways for him to win. However, wrestlers grinders 1327 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 8: like Michael Kiyosa have given him a lot of trouble 1328 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 8: in the past. You know, Kis's reach kind of concerns 1329 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 8: me here. I do need points. I do think Pettis 1330 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 8: is the better striker. I do think Kiyosa does make 1331 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 8: mistakes on the feet. He hasn't kind of come with 1332 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 8: the same progress on the feet that he has with 1333 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 8: on the ground. 1334 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Pettis here well. 1335 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 6: And if he is to be taking at his word 1336 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 6: back in April when we sat down with him before 1337 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 6: this fight went away, He's gonna come out like a 1338 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 6: bat out of hell. Right, he understands that Kis is 1339 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 6: probably gonna shoot and shoot early if he can't get 1340 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 6: that jab going early, and Pettis will be ready for 1341 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 6: it and try to bring the fight back into his wheelhouse. 1342 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 7: All right. 1343 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 6: At heavyweight, the black Beast Derek Lewis try to come 1344 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 6: through here as a plus two to eighty underdog against 1345 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 6: the division's number one contender, Francis in Ghana, who is 1346 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 6: minus three sixty. A lot of people expecting in Ghanu 1347 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 6: to bounce back viciously here after the title loss to 1348 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 6: Stepe back in January. Robbie Fox, the floor is yours? 1349 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 6: You going within Ghanu or Derek Lewis. 1350 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 5: I'm going within Ghanu. I love this fight. I think 1351 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 5: this fight is awesome. I love both of these fighters, 1352 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 5: and it's tough for me to go within Ghanu. But 1353 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna discredit his hands just because of what 1354 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 5: happened in January against Steepe, who is obviously Derek Lewis 1355 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 5: is not the fighter that Stepe is, but his cardio 1356 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 5: Francis and Ganu's cardio seems to be an issue, and 1357 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 5: I don't know how much he could possibly improve that 1358 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 5: Cardio from January to July. But I guess we'll see, 1359 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 5: and I'm taking in Ghanu by first round knockout. I 1360 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 5: don't think that Derek Lewis necessarily has the strength to 1361 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 5: dragging Goanna to the ground and hold him there like 1362 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 5: Steepe was able to do, so I'll take him by 1363 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 5: first round knockout. I could kind of see this one 1364 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 5: in my head. This plays out exactly as the alistair 1365 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 5: Overine Francis and Ghano fight does. 1366 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 6: Interesting fourteenth UFC appearance can flow for Derek Lewis. He's 1367 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 6: won seven of his last eight. He's the more known 1368 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 6: quantity here. We'll see what type of improvements Francis and 1369 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 6: Ghana has made since January. 1370 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 7: Which way you go? 1371 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 8: And kid, I'm smiling just thinking about this fight. It's 1372 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 8: gonna be ridiculous. I don't think it lasts that long. 1373 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 8: I don't think it's going to go the distance. 1374 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Listen. 1375 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 8: I gotta agree with Robby here. I think and Ghano 1376 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 8: wins this one. I think he's a little bit more precise. 1377 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 8: I think he hits harder. I think he might have 1378 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 8: the better chin as well. But this is kind of 1379 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 8: one of those where if either of these guys Lands 1380 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 8: a clean shot over the lands that first one will 1381 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 8: win the fight. But I think in Gano will get 1382 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 8: the win. I think he's tailor made for these kind 1383 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 8: of fights. 1384 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 7: All right. 1385 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 6: Now to the co headliner UFC Featherweight Championship, Max Holloway 1386 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 6: the minus one forty five favorite to defend his title 1387 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 6: against Brian t Cidy Ortega, who is plus one twenty five. 1388 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 6: For true fans of MMA, disclaimer here, this is about 1389 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 6: as good as it gets for me on paper. This 1390 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 6: is a dream matchup. I can't wait to see it. 1391 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 6: Robbie Fox, the question to you who leaves Vegas as 1392 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 6: the UFC Featherweight Champion. 1393 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 5: Have you guys seen the gift and the video of 1394 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 5: that fan way back in the day UFC with UFC 1395 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 5: painted on his forehead and just bleed painted on his chest. Yes, 1396 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 5: flex and his guts out, because when this fight starts 1397 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 5: and Bruce Buffer says it's time, I am going to 1398 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 5: rip my shirt off no matter where I am and 1399 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,959 Speaker 5: just be flexing my head off because oh my god, fight. 1400 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 5: I cannot wait for this and I truly have no 1401 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 5: idea what's going to happen. I have no idea. I 1402 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 5: love Max Holloway. He's one of my favorite fighters to watch, 1403 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 5: and I also think bringing it back to Connor McGregor 1404 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 5: that he, other than kuld Be, is the hardest matchup 1405 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 5: for Connor in the entire UFC. I think he's absolutely superb. 1406 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 5: What he did to Jose Aldo him offering to step 1407 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 5: in against could be but UFC two twenty three was 1408 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 5: just crazy and shows you how much of a warrior 1409 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 5: he really is. Brian Ortega that I feel like he's 1410 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 5: had a thousand wins, and I mean he has had 1411 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 5: a thousand wins where it looks like he's out of it. 1412 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 5: It looks like he's out of it, it looks like 1413 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 5: he's out of it, and then he just pulls through. 1414 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 5: So he's a guy that you could never really count out. 1415 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 9: Him. 1416 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 5: Knocking out Frankie Edgar shows his power and Franki Edgar 1417 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 5: having never been knocked out in his career before that. 1418 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 5: So this is so tough for me to call, but 1419 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna call Max Holloway here. I'm gonna say a 1420 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 5: third round knockout for Max Holloway. I think he's too 1421 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 5: crisp with his footwork and just with the way he's 1422 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 5: so precise in his strikes, and we saw that against 1423 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 5: Aldo twice. Like we're talking Jose Aldo, one of the 1424 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 5: greatest fighters of all time. I mean, Max Holloway made 1425 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 5: him look like a shell of himself. So I have 1426 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 5: to go with Holloway. I think Halloway's one of the 1427 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 5: most skilled pound for pound fighters the UFC has. But 1428 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 5: I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Brian Ortega pulls out 1429 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 5: a crazy submission out of nowhere. 1430 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, great chance for both guys to sort of stake 1431 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 6: some sort of pound for pound claim this weekend. Halloway 1432 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 6: and Ortega. So Ken Flow fought for this very belt 1433 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 6: back in twenty eleven. Flow, I bet you're excited. You're 1434 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 6: not having a fight one of these guys this week. 1435 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 8: These guys are beasts, man, There's no doubt about it. 1436 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 8: You know it's tough, man. I picked against Ortega in 1437 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 8: his last one against Frankie. I thought Cub was gonna 1438 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 8: beat him as well. I ate my words there. I 1439 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 8: might be eating my words yet again. I'm gonna go 1440 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 8: with Max Holloway. I think Halloway is one of those guys. 1441 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 8: Not only is he so skillful, Robbie, but I think 1442 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 8: he's one of those guys. He's one of the more 1443 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 8: intelligent fighters in the octagon. He knows what to do, 1444 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 8: he knows when to do it. I don't see him 1445 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 8: making a huge mistake here against a guy like Ortega. 1446 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 8: Although if Ortega gets him on the on the mat 1447 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 8: mistake or not, Ortega wins this fight, he will submit 1448 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 8: Max Holloway. But I don't think he's able to do it. 1449 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 8: I don't think he's gonna be able to take down 1450 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 8: Holloway or Tega not really known for his takedown game. 1451 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 8: So I think Halloway finds a way to keep this 1452 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 8: one on the feet and it avoids that big power 1453 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 8: of Ortego. Ortega might even be the guy who hits 1454 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 8: harder in this fight. Halloway just so consistent puts together 1455 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 8: some of the more beautiful combinations you will see in 1456 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 8: this sport. Max Holloway, I think, retains the belt here. 1457 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 7: Does he finish him? You got a round for me? 1458 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: That's right? Sorry, Yeah, let's go. 1459 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 8: Let's go with a fourth round TKO for Holloway. 1460 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 6: Fourth round TKO for Max Holloway or right, finally, Robbie 1461 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 6: Fox the super Fight for the UFC heavyweight title, Stepe 1462 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 6: a mia Chich the hunted right now Daniel Cormier trying 1463 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 6: to take his belt and become just the second simultaneous 1464 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 6: two division champion in UFC history. Steep about minus two 1465 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 6: fifty DC plus two hundred or so, Robbie, who do 1466 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 6: you like in the super in the super fight? 1467 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Excuse me? 1468 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 5: I hate doing this to Steepe twice in a row. 1469 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 5: I got to admit I picked against him with Francis, 1470 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 5: and I'm picking against him here. I'm taking Daniel Cormier. 1471 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 5: After UFC two twenty. Immediately, you know, everyone at the 1472 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 5: press conference, they were the hushes of who's next for Stepe? 1473 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 5: Who's next for Stepe? There wasn't a real contender, and 1474 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 5: one name came up and everyone is kind of just like, 1475 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 5: I think it's DC, And they were the questions about, well, 1476 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 5: will will you do that with Kine and all that. 1477 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 5: It finally got booked. This is an awesome, awesome, awesome 1478 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 5: main event for International Fight Week. This is a super 1479 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 5: fight of the highest caliber. We got the most dominant 1480 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 5: heavyweight champion of all time against a guy that was 1481 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 5: thirteen to oh at heavyweight, moved down to light heavyweight, 1482 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 5: is now the most dominant light heavyweight of all time 1483 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 5: other than John Jones, of course, who you know. There's 1484 01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 5: an asterisk there, so that's a tricky situation. But this 1485 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 5: is just so, so so good. I'm taking Cornier by 1486 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 5: fourth round submission. I think he's going to be able 1487 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 5: to wear steep A down. We've never seen him have 1488 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 5: issues against people bigger than him except Jones, and I 1489 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 5: don't even think the size was necessarily an issue there. 1490 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 5: He fought at heavyweight before, so I don't think the 1491 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 5: agent's reach advantage is going to play a huge factor 1492 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 5: for stepe especially considering step A isn't a guy that 1493 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 5: like necessarily uses that reach that he usually has over guys. 1494 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 5: He's tighter with his strikes and more close up. Both 1495 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 5: of them are great wrestlers, so I don't think anyone's 1496 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 5: getting ragged oled here. But I just do think that Cornier, 1497 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 5: a better chin at heavyweight, will be able to withstand 1498 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 5: the first storm through steep A and then be able 1499 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 5: to drag him to the ground and grind out a submission. 1500 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 6: And can you imagine the reaction can flow from Daniel 1501 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 6: Cormier if he submits steep A and becomes the UFC 1502 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,959 Speaker 6: Heavyweight Champion. Your final thoughts on this UFC heavyweight title 1503 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 6: fight with your selection Interesting? 1504 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 1: Interesting from Robbie here. 1505 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 8: Well, this is a fascinating fight, both guys tremendous champions. 1506 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier I think, isn't you know? 1507 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 8: In just in doing some film study, I feel much 1508 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 8: better about this fight for Daniel Cormier than I did before. 1509 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I think step A, Yes, he's still dangerous. 1510 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 8: Yes he hits harder when it comes to boxing, But 1511 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 8: I think d C is gonna be able to avoid 1512 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 8: those heavy strikes. I think he's gonna find a way 1513 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 8: to utilize his dirty boxing, get into the clinch, work 1514 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 8: some takedowns here or there, you know, kind of keep 1515 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 8: Stepe on the defense of a little bit. 1516 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: I think that's what he needs to do. He needs 1517 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: to be able to stock Stepe. 1518 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 8: DC will not win this fight if he is being 1519 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 8: backed up by the heavyweight champion. 1520 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: He has to lead the dance here. 1521 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 8: He has to get the heavyweight champ moving backwards in 1522 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 8: this fight. Stock him with takedowns, enter with sharp combinations, 1523 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 8: utilize the kicks, h and uh. 1524 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I think DC wins this fight by decision. 1525 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 6: Wow, Robbie Fox barstoolsports dot Com on Twitter. You can 1526 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 6: find them at Robbie barstool. Appreciate you coming on today, man, 1527 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 6: great work. We'll keep tracking you. 1528 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 5: Thanks so much, dude, Thank you guys so much. This 1529 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 5: was a mental world to me to be on. So 1530 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 5: enjoy the card on Saturday, safe travels and all that. 1531 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 9: Thank you so much. 1532 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Great job, Buddy, you too. 1533 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,600 Speaker 7: There he is Robbie Fox with us here for the 1534 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 7: main event. Challenge can flow? 1535 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,679 Speaker 6: Any chance that you change your picks by the time 1536 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 6: the pre fight show rolls around on Saturday night for 1537 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 6: either of the two title fights, based upon what you 1538 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 6: see maybe Friday at the Way In or otherwise. 1539 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, listen. There's always a chance, just due to 1540 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 8: how they look on the scale. Also on fight week, 1541 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 8: as you well know, you know, you hear certain things 1542 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 8: that you might not hear otherwise, and being on the 1543 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 8: ground in Vegas, you have access to that kind of information. 1544 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: So who knows. 1545 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 6: We will see man, and I will see you there. 1546 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 6: I get in July fourth as well, Buddy. You can 1547 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 6: catch Ken Flow on the pre and post fight shows 1548 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 6: on FS one. Also, don't forget the Hall of Fame 1549 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 6: induction ceremony. I'll be hosting. I'll also be inducting Bruce Connell, 1550 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 6: which I'm very excited to have the chance to do that. 1551 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 6: So if you can't be with us in Vegas, you 1552 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 6: can see that, I believe sometime around nine pm Eastern 1553 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,840 Speaker 6: sixth Pacific on Thursday July fifth, and of course the 1554 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 6: big pay per view coming up on Saturday night. Until then, 1555 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 6: thanks to everybody at Fox Sports, thanks to Ray long Ago, 1556 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 6: Robbie Fox, Claudia Peterson. Until next Monday, enjoy the hell 1557 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,719 Speaker 6: out of UFC two twenty six and the tough finale. 1558 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 6: We will recap it for you on Monday, July ninth, 1559 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 6: fo later the. 1560 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 4: John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. 1561 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Sports Betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus. 1562 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,720 Speaker 4: And Wagering Week is your antidote. 1563 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 3: I'm Tom Martin, and I'm a veteran sports analyst and 1564 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 3: respected sports handicapper who will help build ESPN's brand. 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