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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, Sweety.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited because kIPS is taking La. That's right,

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Speaker 1: I'm meeting up with some of my favorite people here

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Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles area and I cannot wait for

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Speaker 1: you to see what we have in store right now.

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Speaker 1: We are in thirteen Loon. It is a store founded

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Speaker 1: by Nickao Greco. The store has ninety percent of the

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Speaker 1: products are founded by BIPOC thirteen Loon. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for allowing us to use this amazing space. If

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Speaker 1: you're in the Los Angeles area, make sure.

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Speaker 2: You guys pull up.

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Speaker 1: Tina Knowles is a businesswoman, fashion designer, philanthropist known for

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Speaker 1: establishing brands like House of Darion, Miss Tina by Tina Knowles,

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Speaker 1: and recently launched the Sacred Hair care line with her

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Speaker 1: daughter Beyonce. Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep

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Speaker 1: It Positive, Sweety. I'm Christophine and Hazlet.

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Speaker 2: And today I have it with me Miss Tina Knowles.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so.

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Speaker 3: Much, thank you for having me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I know you're busy and you got a lot going on,

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Speaker 1: so just your time means a lot.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to first talk about the day

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Speaker 1: I first met you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, but.

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Speaker 1: We were backstage for Tyler Perry's Medea Farewell to Her

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Speaker 1: here in La and I was in the back waiting

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Speaker 1: on Tyler to come out. And he comes out of

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Speaker 1: the room and he goes, come here. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: who was in the room, really, I had no idea.

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Speaker 2: He was like, come in here. And I walked in

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Speaker 2: and it's you, and I was like hello.

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Speaker 1: But you were so sweet from the moment I met you,

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Speaker 1: and every time I see you, it's always warm greetings

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, always like to tell how I met the first.

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Speaker 3: Time, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was a memorable night.

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Speaker 2: Yea, so good. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: I always try to pop in and see it when

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Speaker 1: he's on the.

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Speaker 2: Road, Yeah, just to check on him. Yeah, but that

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Speaker 2: was a fun time. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: You we were introduced to you in the nineties as

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Speaker 1: Beyonce's mom. But I want to know who Tina knows

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Speaker 1: is and where Tina comes from, So tell us just

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Speaker 1: a little bit about you.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I grew up in Galveston, Texas in

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Speaker 4: the South and grew up really poor. Found out later

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Speaker 4: that my parents bordered for me to go to to

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Speaker 4: private school. Really they were that she did all the

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Speaker 4: sewing for the church, and my dad showed for the nuns,

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Speaker 4: and you know, we were like indentured servants for them,

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Speaker 4: which wasn't the best experience for me, but it prepared

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Speaker 4: their sacrifice. Just grew up in Galveston, this little island,

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Speaker 4: and so it's like a tourist town. It was fun

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Speaker 4: growing up there, and you know, I got in a

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Speaker 4: my journey has just been I call it God giving

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Speaker 4: me the tools. He just filled my toolbox with all

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Speaker 4: everything I'm doing today. So I'm not you know, I

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Speaker 4: have paid for. So it's been really great. I mean

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Speaker 4: that makeup modeling, some.

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Speaker 3: Doing hair.

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Speaker 4: I had a hair salon from Yeahlin Yes for many,

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Speaker 3: And it was a positive space.

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Speaker 4: For women to support each other and network before we

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Speaker 4: podcasts and what I love about it is the positivity

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Speaker 4: because there's so much negativity right now. I can hardly

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Speaker 4: stand some of the podcasts that people have just to

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Speaker 4: sit down and tear people down and put out all negative,

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Speaker 4: lying information, a lot of it about my family. So

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Speaker 4: to see something like this positive even the name of it,

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Speaker 4: things because they help us.

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Speaker 3: The other stuff hurts us.

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Speaker 4: It does oh yeah, the negativity hurts us and it

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Speaker 4: doesn't do anything for anybody's self esteem. It's crabbing a

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: So you talk about the negative media, I just because

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Speaker 1: I'm really pretty need to success and I didn't understand

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Speaker 1: what I was signing up for. Yeah, And I'm telling

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Speaker 1: it is going on four years that I've really been

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Speaker 1: it personal, but in the beginning it really really hurts.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and even I mean, I've been in the business

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Speaker 4: and some things just go too far. Yes, So I'm

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Speaker 4: quiet and I'm cool about it. But you know, you

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Speaker 2: You will speak up?

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Speaker 3: Why all my children?

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Speaker 4: I will speak up because I think it's important to

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Speaker 4: have that balance and I think that something has to

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Speaker 4: you just can't keep taking it, you know, even though

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Speaker 4: you know that it's not true and all of that,

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Speaker 4: but some things are below the belt and they are

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Speaker 2: Yea, And I love that about you. You will speak up.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, tell them, Mama to you that for real,

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Speaker 1: because there's moments where you I see you just kind

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Speaker 2: But when you need to speak up, you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's real, but yeah, I definitely I

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Speaker 3: Like, didn't they just blatantly lie and get away with them?

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Speaker 2: That's not fair? Yeah, yeah, that is so true.

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Speaker 1: You talked about growing up and that your mom was

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Speaker 2: Did you always look.

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Speaker 2: That was so cool.

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Speaker 1: But it's amazing now hearing the backstory that your mother

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Speaker 3: So she was a seamstress.

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Speaker 4: And also, you know, just even like I think about it,

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Speaker 3: Just doing interviews and that type of thing. Everything that

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Speaker 4: Learned that I've done in my life, I've been able

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Speaker 2: You know. So it's been great and you've done it

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Speaker 2: very well. We see it. Yes, I'm really good friends

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Speaker 1: Yes, your niece, and I see and she plays in

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Speaker 1: the sisters, and it's so cool. How like we'll be

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Speaker 1: studying together and she'll talk about what's going on in

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't do this. I was raising it.

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Speaker 3: So she was raised in the salon. Yes, she was

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, and I feel like salons are

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Speaker 2: As black women.

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Speaker 4: It's therapy, it's spiritual, it's camaraderie, it's just woman power.

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Speaker 2: It is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now fast forward, you have your own hair care, hair

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Speaker 1: care products named Sacred Yes with your daughter Beyonce.

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Speaker 3: Actually they're Beyonce's product.

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Speaker 4: It's not just yeah, it seems like if you're working

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Speaker 4: with it. Yeah, well, of course I've had a lot to.

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Speaker 3: Do with it, but that's her product.

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Speaker 1: because it seems like it's a collective project.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely is, from on down to testing on blue

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Speaker 4: their input, but mainly the experience from my salon, because

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Speaker 3: So and you can tell y'all was always mixing up

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Speaker 3: these concoctions. And so this started a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like we need we needed one product

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Speaker 4: in one products because you can have one without the other.

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Speaker 4: And education, just a lot of education about how to

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Speaker 3: Will wassterre and things that people we take for granted,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to come by and you can do

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Speaker 2: my hair. You gotta take these braids out. Wait, yes,

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Speaker 2: get your hands in these hairs. I got a lot

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Speaker 3: Know you do I know?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I think she's I'm gonna send this picture. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: take a picture and send its like since my auntie.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of hair. So I feel sorry for

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Speaker 2: anybody who has to wash it and cone through it.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people think things like that happen overnight.

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Speaker 1: How many years did it take for you guys to

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Speaker 1: really get it down to a science?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because I say that it took

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Speaker 4: probably twenty years, But we've been working on.

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Speaker 3: A product for six years.

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Speaker 4: And we worked on it for a while and then

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Speaker 4: we stopped because it's a very time consuming thing. When

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Speaker 4: you are you know, anybody can go and get some

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Speaker 4: to do, this is what, But not with this bunch,

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Speaker 4: because we grew up, you know, they grew up in

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Speaker 4: I knew what I was looking for. So where as

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Speaker 4: people send products back maybe three or four times, is

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Speaker 4: got forty five dollars a week, which is what they

446
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 4: called the pennies, but it's unemployment because if it wasn't work,

447
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: you could apply for unemployment forty five dollars a week

448
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: with a family of seven people, and we made it

449
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 4: all the time because and so I didn't understand it

450
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 4: when I was young.

451
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: I was still pissed.

452
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 4: But when I got older, I understood that that's what

453
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 4: she was talking about, because how did we manage to

454
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: live and to be very fashionable even though we didn't

455
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 4: have any money. Were sharp all the time, but we

456
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 4: never went hungry. And I really didn't even realize how.

457
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 3: Poor I was till I got older.

458
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

459
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's how we made it.

460
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. That is beautiful. That's beautiful. There's

461
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: other things that you've.

462
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: Done besides hair, having your own hair salon, but you

463
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: were also big in fashion. Yes, you had the Hauseidarion

464
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 1: and Miss Tina by Tina Knowles. How exciting was that

465
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: to take everything that you learned from your mom and

466
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: create your own line.

467
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 3: Oh, it was so much fun, you know, haw Sadarion was.

468
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 4: It was amazing because it was really kind of was

469
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 4: born because of the fans asking where can.

470
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: We get this?

471
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 4: And we want the clothes and it was such a

472
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: fun time for us. And you know, it's defunct now

473
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 4: because we you know, we decided to give it up

474
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 4: because we just.

475
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: Could didn't have the right partners and.

476
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 4: They just had a whole different direction for the brand

477
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: than we did.

478
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: Wow.

479
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: They wanted to be very junior.

480
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 4: They wanted it to be fast fast, like fast fashion,

481
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 4: with logos that big everywhere, and you know, it just

482
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 4: got to the point where you didn't enjoy it.

483
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: But it was a very successful brand I.

484
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: Did.

485
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: That's right, because the jeans were started.

486
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: They first started.

487
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: Jeans, and I took all those tricks of tailoring from

488
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: my mom and put them in the jeans. And I

489
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: don't think it's any They was some of the top

490
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 4: genes to fit behind.

491
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: They were there, give.

492
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 3: You a nice shape, you know. But yeah, it's passion.

493
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: I've always had a passion for fashion. My nephew Johnny

494
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: and I used to design our own clothes.

495
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: We were always voted the best dress. We were, you know,

496
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: just always sharp. And that's what that's the funny thing.

497
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: Being that poor made me more creative.

498
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: Yes, you know. So my mom's excuse.

499
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: Was always, well, you can't have the whatever the jeans were.

500
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: Jeans weren't the big thing, but like certain styles that

501
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: I wanted, and she was like, yours is much.

502
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: Better because it's more creative.

503
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 4: And I'll be like, like, that's she just telling me

504
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 4: that because she don't want to spend the money to

505
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: buy it for me. But it turned out to challenge

506
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 4: us to really not just go to the stores and

507
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: buy stuff, but to look in Vogue magazine, you know,

508
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: the top magazine, and trying to copy those things. And

509
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 4: so it gave me a really great knowledge of fashion

510
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 4: and I appreciate that.

511
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, do you have any plans to create another line?

512
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: You're don She's like, no, fashion is you know, it's

513
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 4: really really hard. I love these products because the products

514
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 4: are transforming people's hair, Like I just can't wait till

515
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: you use it.

516
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: You'll see the difference.

517
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: And no, I already have it.

518
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: I've seen the difference if you have a deep conditioner

519
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: between my projective styles, the rice water it was the

520
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: correct word.

521
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: It is rice, rice and rose. Yeah, it makes my

522
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: hair feel so good. No, I love it.

523
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's I mean, but the products are I'm

524
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 4: very very excited about that, and I just want to

525
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: expand it to styling products and all of that. So

526
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: that's what I'm most passionate about right now in terms

527
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: of you know, of products are our projects.

528
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: I love that your grandson jewels we actually share the

529
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: same birthday.

530
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's how Andrew remembers my birthday because the

531
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: same birthday.

532
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got a very sweet demeanor. He's a sweetheart.

533
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: I met him at one of the shows Angie introduces.

535
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: It's like, it's your birthday.

536
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I see that he is now modeling.

537
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel to see your grandson

538
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: just like he's in Paris like doing did shut back?

539
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: He I mean, he loves it, and I'm just so

540
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 4: happy that he has found his thing. You know, he

541
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: loves fashion and he's working on a fashion line.

542
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: That is really good. It's a streetwear.

543
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: Line and he's been working on it for the last

544
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 4: couple of years, and so I think that's a natural

545
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: progression for him to go into modeling.

546
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

547
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, he's killing it.

548
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: And when I saw it fashion Week last fall, I

549
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I see what.

550
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: We're doing here. Yeah, that's amazing. And then Blue Ivy

551
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: took the world.

552
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: By storm doing during the Renaissance tour.

553
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: I think I went to like five shows oh wow.

554
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: We went to the first.

555
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: Two in Sweden in Stockholm, and then I went again

556
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: in Amsterdam.

557
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

558
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: And then I went to like three shows in Atlanta.

559
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 4: Was keeping you from us because he came to He

560
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: came to the very first show.

561
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: Him.

562
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in the Prairie Circle for the very

563
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: first show.

564
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: Like I literally landed because I wasn't coming because I

565
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: had to do I was prepping the film Going Back

566
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: for Sisters and because that was in May, like and yeah,

567
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: during the going into summer, and he's like, christ you

568
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: know I come. I was like no, So they the

569
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: crew who over there? And he was like, I think

570
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: Eve or somebody. He's like, see even just went to

571
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: my bathroom. He's like, if you were here, this would

572
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: have never happened because they rode his jet and.

573
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and then he was like can

574
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: you please? And I was like all right.

575
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: So his Jody booked me a flight to go and

576
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: I landed and Malcolm headed scary, was like, they're about

577
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: to pray if you want to make the circle.

578
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: So I was like running into the circle. I know that.

579
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that first show.

580
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 4: I was still in that wardrobe room till the last

581
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 4: second trying to get those clothes out.

582
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: So you still do that, like you still?

583
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

584
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: What I what I do is on the last tour,

585
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 4: Beyonce said well, I think that. You know, she had

586
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: a short period of time and she said, I want

587
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: two stylists, and I said, you know, we're gonna get

588
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: four because we have such So I actually found the stylers,

589
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: put them together, managed and gave them the budgets, and

590
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: you know, oversaw the whole project. So yeah, but I

591
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 4: still got to get in there and saw something sometime.

592
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: Make it fit him some pans, so do whatever. Yeah,

593
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 4: I love it though, it's fun.

594
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: I love that now.

595
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: I remember you made a comment about I think it

596
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: was you that you were kind of hesitant when they

597
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: said that.

598
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: Blue was going to perform.

599
00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

600
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I wasn't hesitant. Beyonce was OK, yeah, and

601
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 4: she she was like Blue cause she just didn't want

602
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: the pressure on her.

603
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: Cause she knows what that brings.

604
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, and people are you know, they can

605
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: be very cruel. And she was like, I just don't

606
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: want her to get caught up in this. I want

607
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: her to decide on her own what she wants to do.

608
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 4: And so Blue kept asking, cause everyday Blue rehearsed.

609
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: With all the dancers, and I was like, she can

610
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: do it. She is killing it.

611
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: And then Beyonce said Okay, I'm gonna let you do

612
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: one city.

613
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 3: I'll let you do Paris.

614
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: Wow. And once she did it, that was supposed to

615
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: be a one time thing. You know, people were so

616
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: evil and me and saying all these comments, and so

617
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: one of her friends told her about the comments, and

618
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 4: it was such a life lesson for her because she

619
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 4: was very upset about it. And her mom said, well,

620
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: you know, you can let them win and you can

621
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: just give up and say you'll never do it again.

622
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: But if I were you, I'll go work harder and

623
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: I would get out there and kill it and shut

624
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: them up.

625
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: She did, and she did that just that.

626
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: You can see the her progression every single show.

627
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, she.

628
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 4: Worked hard though, yeah, because I mean Blue at the

629
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: time was eleven, and you know most of the dancers

630
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: are at least twenty twenty five, some of them thirty.

631
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: They been doing this forever yea.

632
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: And they were amazed that she could keep up and.

633
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: And learn the choreography and have her own little swag in.

634
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Her own style.

635
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: She reminded me of Claune cause Solange did the same thing. Really,

636
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: she started yeah, uh, she started dancing with Destiny's Child

637
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: when she was thirteen because Kelly broke her toe.

638
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

639
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: And when Kelly broke her toe, we were like, we

640
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: can't stop the show. So I studied Kelly's whole boots.

641
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: I know that's and she sat on the studied stole

642
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: stool and sung and Solange danced for her in the

643
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: same costumes. So yeah, when she was thirteen, and I

644
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: was so worried about her cause I was like, she

645
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 4: thirteen and everybody's grown. And she got out there and

646
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: kept up with them. Sometimes she'll cry, you know, she

647
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: would be in high altitudes and say I can't do this,

648
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yes you can.

649
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 3: You signed up. You gotta finish it. Yeah, because that

650
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: is my philosophy.

651
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: You don't have to do anything, but if you sign

652
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: up for it, you got to finish.

653
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: You cannot sweat.

654
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: My dadd's always like that bad food. Ye, Like, if

655
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna sign.

656
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: Up for it, you have to go one prod and

657
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: you got to keep it going.

658
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

659
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: And speaking of salone, Solange has found her own voice. Yes,

660
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I love that because I've seen her evolution as well.

661
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: And how does how proud does it make you to

662
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: see like both of your daughters thriving.

663
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: I've always been proud of them, not only for you know,

664
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: show business, but just as being good human beings and

665
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: that's most important. But their success has been great to

666
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: watch too, because they work.

667
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: They work so hard.

668
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: My girls work hard, they do.

669
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing is given to them, So I'm proud of that.

670
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

671
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Speaker 1: Do you ever like wake up some mornings and be like, well,

672
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: my kids are amazing, you know, like because you're Beyonce

673
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: is like one of.

674
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Speaker 2: The biggest supersions in the world. Like, do you ever

675
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: wake up and be like that came out of me?

676
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: Not really, the people say it to me all the time,

677
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 4: and I have thought about it, but you know again,

678
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel so blessed to have the

679
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: kids that I have, and Kelly too, because Kelly, because

680
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: you know she Kelly is the same, I mean, just

681
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: just the best work ethic and the best person. She

682
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: still remains the sweetest, kindest, you know, generous person. And

683
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: that's that's not easy. You know, it's not easy in

684
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: this business. That's why again, I was so impressed that

685
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: you want to do something called positive, you know, because

686
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: this business can chew you up and spit.

687
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: You out again. And they make it really hard, you

688
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: really can.

689
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday just

690
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: about how certain circumstances can really cause you to be

691
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: guarded and almost make you cold.

692
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it mean to protect yourself because you have to

693
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: protect yourself because you know, it's.

694
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: A lot of beasts out there, you know, in this business.

695
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: I was really scared, you know, when the girls got

696
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: in and I became so involved in their careers. And

697
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: people think it's because I'm a stage mother, but it

698
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: was because I wanted to earn my keep and I

699
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: wanted to watch them and protect them because you know.

700
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: It's a scary.

701
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: Thing, you know, to try to keep them grounded, saying

702
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, they can pick up their bags,

703
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: they not their hands not broken. Look people in the

704
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: eye when you walk into a hotel. I don't care

705
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: if it's two o'clock in the morning, that is the person.

706
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: Treat them kind. So I was around to do those things,

707
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: you know, and I know that that's why they have

708
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: been able to stay. I'm not the only reason, but

709
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: part of it is just staying grounded. You know, somebody

710
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: to pop you upside your head.

711
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: Not not, but you know, let you know, when.

712
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: You when you're getting a little divadup going on, you know,

713
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: that's good.

714
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: Everybody needs a mama te Yeah. I have good people

715
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: around me that say all right, you know always. And

716
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: that's one thing Tyler did instill in me because when

717
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I was styling him, I didn't understand because I've been

718
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an actor, I wanted to sing,

719
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: and then he offers me this job and.

720
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not what I was trying to do.

721
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: Lord, that is amazing.

722
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: Yes, But then I prayed about it and I was like, Okay,

723
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this.

724
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh you're saying a styling. He offered you the job

725
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: to style, but I was way.

726
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: Into it exactly. But I didn't know that at first.

727
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: I was just like, I just said, God just ordered

728
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: my steps, Like, if this is what you want me

729
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: to do, I'm gonna do it, and you will make

730
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: room for whatever I really want to do if that's

731
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: in your will. And everything that I learned in those

732
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: five years of being that close to Tyler have helped

733
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: me God like literally step into the shoes I'm in today.

734
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: That's right.

735
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same with Angie. I feel like all that

736
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: time of.

737
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: Being around show business, and it was just tools that

738
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: she can pull out and it comes, you know, and

739
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: so it was an easy transition.

740
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: It was.

741
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: It's very evident when she's on set she knows even

742
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: from hair and the hair it's so funny. There's a

743
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: whole thing that the hairstyle says, not putting no consider

744
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: on Angie's part.

745
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: She said, I don't want that.

746
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, Angie heavy cracking up. But she knows

747
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: because she's been around it for so long. Even on set,

748
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: she knows the camera, she knows how it's supposed to look.

749
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: So trans it transitions on this set and you can

750
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: tell that she's been.

751
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: Around it all her Yes.

752
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's still kind, still sweet and grounded. Like

753
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you say, she doesn't come in there acting like a diva.

754
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: And I feel like every one that I've met I

755
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: haven't met Solange, but b Kelly and Angie all who

756
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: all came under you. You can see this, So that's

757
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: also a reflection of you and the things that you

758
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: taught them, because even when you not around.

759
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: They are as sweet as can be. Yeah, treat everybody. Yeah, yeah, no,

760
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: for sure, let's see to thank you.

761
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: So much wonderful.

762
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Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate you making time and stopping by. We

763
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: do something at the end of our show called positive Outcomes,

764
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: So if you can hang out with me just for

765
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: a little bit longer. This is where our listeners write

766
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Speaker 1: in and.

767
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: We just give them a little advice. Okay, So this

768
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: one says Hi, Crystal.

769
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Speaker 1: I'm a fifty two year old mother of a thirty

770
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: one year old son. I have two grandchildren who are

771
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: six and eleven. Our family loves hard and enjoys creating

772
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: memories with one another.

773
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: Long story short.

774
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: I was a single mother raising my son while also

775
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: taking care of my sickly parents for nineteen years. In

776
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, my father had a massive stroke

777
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: and I had a stroke one month later. We were

778
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: cuperated together. In two thousand and eight, I lost my father,

779
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: but my mom remained with me and we have some

780
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: great years together, nurturing her to health, emotion and mentally

781
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: because she loved and missed my dad. My mom battled

782
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: with Parkinson's disease and did not walk for the last

783
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: eleven years. God restored me by taking the best care

784
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: of her until her death last November. Unfortunately, the last

785
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: three years of my health declined because of the stress

786
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: of working forty to fifty hours a week, coming home

787
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: to care for my mom, which sometimes had me up

788
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: all night and having to repeat it the next day.

789
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Heart failure in my recovery plan has given me a

790
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: fresh start and I'm ready to start dating again.

791
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Do you have any dating tips that you can share? Well, girl, you.

792
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Asking the wrong person because she's that part of my

793
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: life is not existent.

794
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll still figure it out. Yeah, no, it is.

795
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: It's really hard, and I think too just knowing who

796
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: the right people are and why they're in your life

797
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: makes it harder for me.

798
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, very good.

799
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but if I feel like I don't get

800
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: your name. But if you are ready for a fresh

801
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: start and you feel like you're ready to get back

802
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: out there, I would one just pray that God opens

803
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: your heart for the right person. You know, a lot

804
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: of times when we haven't dated for a long time.

805
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: We can be open to just anything.

806
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: So I always say, like you said, discernment, use your

807
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: discernment and make sure.

808
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: The person is right for you. Spend time with people

809
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: in dates.

810
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of times we meet one

811
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: person and I'm like, oh, it's my husband. Like no

812
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: date people to really kind of filter out the ones

813
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: that are not for you and then decide.

814
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I really like this person. What would you say

815
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: to this Tama.

816
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: I agree with everything you said, And I think one

817
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: of the things is that, you know, we talked about

818
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: manife the station, and I think you gotta manifest what

819
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: you want and be very very picky about it and

820
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: pray for what you want, but also get out there, yeah.

821
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: And open your heart.

822
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: You know, my best friend decided she was gonna get

823
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: her a man. She hadn't had a man in fifteen

824
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: years because she got divorced, and she told me, within six.

825
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Months, I'm gonna have a man. I was like, yeah, right.

826
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 4: She absolutely did because she started opening her self up

827
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: to it. She started going to social events, you know,

828
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: after church, she didn't rush out, she tried to meet people.

829
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: So she was just determined, and within six months she

830
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: had a really good man. Probably four months she had

831
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 4: a really good man.

832
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: Had been married for now eight years.

833
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: What and yeah, So you can't manifest, but you got

834
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 4: to get out there because if you're.

835
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Just going to work and coming home probably ain't gonna happen.

836
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna break into your house.

837
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm sorry, but like that's that's goings, like

838
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: you don't.

839
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: Leave the house, right and like.

840
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: You can't, you can't, Like hey, are you here for me?

841
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

842
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, you know social events volunteer. Now that she's free,

843
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: she can volunteer for some organizations. And what better way

844
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 4: to meet somebody who cares about people than in an

845
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: organization is charitable.

846
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: So that's I think that's where I'm going.

847
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: I love that. So, okay, that's right. We can go

848
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: to some charityvents together.

849
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: I told him it's like a month ago, I was

850
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: in Miami and I was talking to a friend of mine.

851
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I have not spent another.

852
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: Holiday by myself and I was like, li, I said, God,

853
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: you got told July fourth.

854
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: In a week, so you don't meet somebody this week?

855
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: You mean somebody this week?

856
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Were praying for it?

857
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 4: Well, you a beautiful, spiritual, talented young woman, and that's coming.

858
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: I feel it's coming. It is. Thank you so much.

859
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: Two of the last things we do is we ask

860
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: our guests what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. Okay,

861
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: can you share with us something that you may be

862
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: going through, just to inspire people in this season.

863
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: I think what I'm going through is I've been going

864
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 4: through losing my siblings, and that's a tough one because

865
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: it started off with seven of us and.

866
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: Now it's only three.

867
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: And I lost my brother a couple of months ago,

868
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, it just hit me. I'm

869
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: seventy years old.

870
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

871
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: And well, thank you, but you know it comes that time.

872
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: It's that time in my life and that I'm going

873
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: through it and I'm growing through.

874
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: It because what I decided is that the two that

875
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: I have.

876
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: Left, I'm gonna make a lot of time and I'm

877
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: gonna spend the time with them and not let so

878
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 4: much time pass because I've been negligent with trying to

879
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 4: see my family. And now I'm sad because my brother's

880
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: gone and I haven't spent as much chime. But that's

881
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: what I'm growing through, you know. It's just trying to

882
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: pray and not be sad about it.

883
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: Yes, tough, it is tough.

884
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Speaker 1: Angie has shared with me about your brother, said, I

885
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: was at her house one day and I don't know what,

886
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe I was a bettter start up here to something,

887
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: but she would showing me how on the video like

888
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: on the camera that she can see him and I

889
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: literally started crying.

890
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, I was like, oh, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm sorry, but like.

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Speaker 1: Just know, even my dad is seventy seventy one now

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Speaker 1: seventy one, and knowing that life is fleeting, I want

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Speaker 1: to spend as much time with him as I.

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Speaker 2: Can, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that even that and what she's going through

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Speaker 1: has shown me I've got to make the most of

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Speaker 1: these years.

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Speaker 3: You got to make the most of those years.

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Speaker 4: And like her dad is, you know, I want to

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Speaker 4: say he's like seventy seven, but he's blind and you know,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of health issues. So he was just

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Speaker 4: at my house yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That's That's how I'm growing, is to have him over

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Speaker 3: Sunday Jakoozie in the pool and we have barbecue and

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Speaker 3: you know, and I'm going to make the best of

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Speaker 3: the time that I have left with it.

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Speaker 2: I love that love. That's amazing. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: This was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So we do a thing called keep it blank, Sweety,

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Speaker 1: keep it blank, where we keep filling the blank, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to say, keep it pushing, sweetie, because

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Speaker 1: no matter what life throws.

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Speaker 2: That, you just got to keep going.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: How would you feel I think I would say keep

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Speaker 4: it moving, which is kind of the same thing. Keep

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Speaker 4: moving no matter what's going on in your Life's.

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Speaker 2: Too shall pass. Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Tina, guys, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning in to this episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie.

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Speaker 1: If you want to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter,

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Speaker 1: you can write it in to Keep It Positive sweety

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's Sweetye with an Ie.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on all platforms at love Chris

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Speaker 1: orinee and that's l u V Missing and tell the

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Speaker 1: peop where they.

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Speaker 4: Can find you on Instagram at Tina and Know's.

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Speaker 2: Yes all right, make sure you guys taping with miss Tina.

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Speaker 1: Guys, thank you so much for tune into this episode.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime in between times, you know what to do.

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Speaker 1: Keep it positive, sweetie,