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Speaker 2: It's the way up at the Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee,

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Speaker 2: and Jasmine Brand is here with me. Yes, I'm here,

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Speaker 2: and today we have a big deal. And you know

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Speaker 2: it's a big deal because they unswept the building. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a couple of days in a van period. Michael Sergan,

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Speaker 2: the EPA Administrator, is here with US Environmental Protection Agency.

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Speaker 2: So for people who are listening right, what exactly is

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Speaker 2: your responsibility?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Well, first of all, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: And it's a huge responsibility. President Biden appointed me as

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Speaker 3: the administrator of the United States Environment Protection Agency. So

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Speaker 3: what we do is we protect drinking water, air quality,

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Speaker 3: and we have to tip of the spear as we

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Speaker 3: protecting public health and the environment.

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Speaker 4: So it's a huge, huge responsibility.

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Speaker 5: And everything that we need to live.

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Speaker 2: And to be clear, it is a crisis right now

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Speaker 2: that we're in. But I want to make sure we

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Speaker 2: always talk about solutions too, and with the average person

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Speaker 2: can do, because sometimes people feel like, well it's not

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Speaker 1: As long as I'm gonna be alived. Or whatever.

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Speaker 2: People have to think about people in other parts of

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Speaker 2: the world. They have to think about environmental justice. They

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Speaker 1: I saw this as like the hottest year on record, and.

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Speaker 2: They said even June and July and October is on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very serious, and for those who don't really

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Speaker 3: want to think about fifty years from now or the science.

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Speaker 3: When you look outside your window and you see these hurricanes,

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Speaker 3: these floods, these wildfires, this extreme heat, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: terrible in terms of the impact to especially our communities.

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Speaker 3: But then you think about what it exacerbates when it's

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Speaker 3: these respiratory illnesses distressed, are elderly. It has a disproportionate

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Speaker 3: And so the environmental justice piece is just so critical,

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Speaker 3: so important, And I'm proud to say that President Biden

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Speaker 3: during the State of the Union address. That shows you

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Speaker 3: how much of a priority it is for this administration.

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Speaker 2: So how does that feel when people are bashing President

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Speaker 2: You even think about clean drinking water, we think of

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Speaker 2: that as something that should be a right what we have,

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Speaker 2: but that's not necessarily the case.

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Speaker 1: In a lot of places, it's not.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think that.

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Speaker 3: Listen, the President has done an enormous amount for this

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Speaker 3: We're giving grants out to help rebuild our communities. And

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Speaker 3: so I'm really excited about what the President has done.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for us to talk about it, as

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Speaker 2: And I see that you guys have set up seventeen

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Speaker 1: So how can people.

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Speaker 2: Find where these centers are so that they make sure

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Speaker 3: Listen, they can go to EPA dot gov. This is

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Speaker 3: a priority for us, so it's on our website. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, three billion dollars there's.

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Speaker 4: It is, so we took about two hundred million, and.

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Speaker 5: Which is also a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: And instead of us being paternalistic and saying we know

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Speaker 2: And I want to ask you personally, what made you

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Speaker 1: The largest black university, but you know, our.

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Speaker 3: HBCUs just prepare us so well, and so that connection

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Speaker 2: And when people also have to understand, like we were

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Speaker 1: Everybody was outside wearing a mask. I couldn't breathe, right.

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Speaker 2: And if you think about the wildfires in California, you

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Speaker 3: Listen, I say, it's abnormal in New York to experience

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Speaker 3: The flooding in the metro system, the people that died

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Speaker 3: I think as the government invests in these solutions, part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you think about it, even like insurance

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Speaker 1: You know, here in the United States.

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Speaker 3: I think the first thing is understanding that there is

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Speaker 3: Whether it's making sure that our homes have appropriate air

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Speaker 3: I think if you are in our communities, you're thinking

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Speaker 3: Invest in all of those three things simultaneously because we

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Speaker 2: And I mean I also think about times when it's

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Speaker 3: That's right, and I think we have to have solutions

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Speaker 3: it's also about a trillion dollar transition. You know, this

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Speaker 4: The future for our children. They should have a part

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Speaker 3: And it's a global problem. This climate issue is a

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: That three billion dollars from the Inflation Reduction Act, and

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Speaker 3: People should go to EPA dot gov. This is a

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Speaker 5: And we take it for granted, but now it's very real.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you so much for taking time to

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Speaker 1: YEP, in times like this, they do.

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Speaker 3: experts on environmental finance. Now we're going to have an

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Speaker 3: Who will sit with me in public meetings? They will

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Speaker 3: they're going to be.

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