Speaker 1: It's eleven p m. In rural Pennsylvania and you're listening
Speaker 1: tonight Call. Hello, and welcome to Night Call, a podcast
Speaker 1: for your strange days and lonely nights. I'm Test Lynch
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and with me I have Molly Lambert
Speaker 1: and in New York Emily Yoshida. Guys, I want to
Speaker 1: start off with an apology Nightcall Apologies desk top of show.
Speaker 1: Apologies to uh the entire Life Science team, who I
Speaker 1: feel I have offended greatly and must come now like
Speaker 1: hanging my head and shame. We got an email from
Speaker 1: a writer at Live Science subject line, I'm so sad
Speaker 1: you called Life Science bullshit, and I feel like it
Speaker 1: to them to uh to to uh set the records
Speaker 1: straight on Life Science or l S as we call it. Um.
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to read a bit of it
Speaker 1: because it's a little long, but you'll get the point.
Speaker 1: I'm so sad you said Life Science is a bullshit site,
Speaker 1: an aggregator and content farm. To be fair, the awful
Speaker 1: look of the site and the ads easily obscure the
Speaker 1: actual content. But to call out something as bullshit, you
Speaker 1: have to carefully consider what's under the surface. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to blame you, but I feel like I
Speaker 1: have to explain. Believe it or not. All stories on
Speaker 1: l S our original stories, with original reporting and interviews.
Speaker 1: It's widely syndicated, to the point that some have called
Speaker 1: it the associated press of science news. I have a
Speaker 1: print story above fold in Washington Post. It's actually an
Speaker 1: l S story, and it's widely read. I get more
Speaker 1: reader emails, the majority of them school children, from my
Speaker 1: l stories than my other pubs combined. Do you wonder
Speaker 1: why the keywords turn up on other sites. That's because
Speaker 1: the majority of everyday science news is based on press
Speaker 1: releases of newly published studies, so everyone covers them. We
Speaker 1: call it the science news turn cycle. And in fact
Speaker 1: l S has been great at breaking the news before
Speaker 1: everyone else. Frequently. It's also respected by public organizations and agencies.
Speaker 1: After quitting research, my first journalism job was at LS.
Speaker 1: I was on all the press calls from the CDCs
Speaker 1: to any press briefings by major scientific journals, and it
Speaker 1: goes on. But Emily, I am so glad that you
Speaker 1: are admitting you were wrong, because Life Science is at
Speaker 1: the best. It's a real great science website, and I
Speaker 1: agree with she's saying. It's like there are some ads
Speaker 1: you know that are seems sketchy. They're those ads that
Speaker 1: are like this one vegetable will destroy that's on everything.
Speaker 1: But I think, especially right now, it's more important than
Speaker 1: ever to have verifiable sources on the internet, so especially
Speaker 1: about science. And I will say that, like from having
Speaker 1: worked at the Virgin and and working you know a
Speaker 1: lot with Lisa Pato there, like she did a lot
Speaker 1: of the same stuff, and there is a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that gets released, like these press releases from you know,
Speaker 1: different research departments and universities and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: I do think it's important and I'm glad that she
Speaker 1: clarified this that like there are people with research backgrounds
Speaker 1: who are reporting on this stuff and following up and
Speaker 1: like asking the right questions about these releases, because a
Speaker 1: lot of times what you'll see is people will just
Speaker 1: take a release like a research or a study and
Speaker 1: just publish it without actually looking into the terms of
Speaker 1: the study, the conditions of it. And this is something
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, maybe some of the headlines on Live
Speaker 1: Science seem like it's going to be something clicked baiting
Speaker 1: in insane, but when you read the stories. They're always like,
Speaker 1: very well, research measure science. So live science, we love you.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who should be sorry. Emily was wrong.
Speaker 1: She was a flag about live science. UM, so let's
Speaker 1: actually talk about a great story for life science. Life science. UM,
Speaker 1: live stience. Please sponsor us. Please forgive Emily hashtag lockness monster,
Speaker 1: forgive Emily. UM. The ancient lockness monster from Antarctica broke
Speaker 1: a record for body size. We have a very thick
Speaker 1: ancient sea reptile, very round boy, lackless monster. UM. Paleontologists
Speaker 1: have discovered the remains of an ancient Lockness monster look
Speaker 1: alike in freezing Antarctica, and just like the legendary Nessy,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the runt of the litter. A four flippered
Speaker 1: marine reptile prehistoric pleiosaur measured a colossal thirty six ft
Speaker 1: from snout to tail, as long as a modern telephone pole. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's a place like a diplodocus, so we can
Speaker 1: call it plessy. It says it's it says it's also
Speaker 1: quite stocky. They really reiterated the heaviest known um and
Speaker 1: they found it. They found not to double down it's
Speaker 1: not a lockness monster, but it's an amazing like see,
Speaker 1: it's an amazing reptilian dinosaur, which is cool. It's a
Speaker 1: super Yeah, it's super cool. And let's also credit the writer.
Speaker 1: This was written by Laura. Yeah, let's start crediting the writers,
Speaker 1: Associate editor Life Science, Good Words. Not a lockness monster,
Speaker 1: but it looks it looks exactly like what you think
Speaker 1: a lockness monster would look like. And it also makes
Speaker 1: you be like, this is why people think there are
Speaker 1: lockness monsters. No, because people existed long after these dinosaurs, right,
Speaker 1: but the idea that one could be just like left behind.
Speaker 1: You think there's one out there, Well, that's what the
Speaker 1: lockness monster is about, right, It's like there's like a yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one that survived. But I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to be a plus us. But that one
Speaker 1: is also in Scotland, famously Luckness and yet it has
Speaker 1: a modern cousin who we think is nessy good word.
Speaker 1: You know, it is a real deep creature. We have
Speaker 1: so many sea creatures today. Let's let's built. Okay, let's build.
Speaker 1: Let's build up in the order of terrifying. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the octopus city okay, which is not news. It's
Speaker 1: just something that was brought up to us on the
Speaker 1: Facebook group. Yeah, I had never heard of this, so
Speaker 1: this is apparently Um, this is like a year old,
Speaker 1: but totally flew under my radar, even though I have
Speaker 1: many octopus tentacle feelers out for news relating to my
Speaker 1: favorite marine cephalopods. There are these octopi who have created
Speaker 1: a city. They're calling it aucklantis Um. It's in eastern Australia,
Speaker 1: and I guess everyone always thought that octopus were very
Speaker 1: solitary creatures, but they have formed a community where they
Speaker 1: communicate and they kind of warn each other of like octopy,
Speaker 1: they don't like coming by there. They keep them out.
Speaker 1: They build these dens out of shells and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they even evict octopy from their community if they don't
Speaker 1: like their behavior. This was preceded by another octopus, cilis
Speaker 1: that was nearby. I just like it so much, so
Speaker 1: thank you for posting that in the Night Callers Facebook group,
Speaker 1: because that is like, there's an endless stream of delightful
Speaker 1: articles like this in there that I our. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not actually octopy, it's octopuses. It's just like hard
Speaker 1: to say that, but octopuses. But I think we tell
Speaker 1: ourselves that they are solitary creatures that don't socialize a
Speaker 1: lot to make ourselves feel better, because when you start
Speaker 1: thinking about the possibilities of an octopus city, it gets
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable to think about your place in the universe
Speaker 1: very quickly. Yeah, I want to I want to move
Speaker 1: to Octopolis. Sounds great? Are actlantis either? Planis another piece
Speaker 1: of news that is not news, but also came to
Speaker 1: us via Twitter. Apparently there is a maybe it's not
Speaker 1: it's not accurate to say, a entire conspiracy theory, but
Speaker 1: one lady is going real hard on the idea that
Speaker 1: monster energy drink a satanic um. Have you guys seen
Speaker 1: this video? Apparently it went viral like a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, and and it's been debunked by Snopes and
Speaker 1: all of that. Um I had. I could only watch
Speaker 1: part of it because it had the the energy, so
Speaker 1: to speak, of making me be like, no, I will
Speaker 1: not explose my This is a woman named Christine. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's also a bad She's a very bad can say yes,
Speaker 1: she's like homophobic and anti muslins. Fun to laugh at her,
Speaker 1: but Yeah, she is. You know, she'll like interrupt Muslim
Speaker 1: prayer meetings and ship like that. Like she's just not
Speaker 1: a not chill at all. But she's been giving. She
Speaker 1: has a speel. She has some YouTube videos about um.
Speaker 1: She's like a right wing YouTuber and she um not
Speaker 1: the only one who has a strong YouTube presence that
Speaker 1: we will be talking about today's podcast, But she has
Speaker 1: a I have to say, like, as you say, her
Speaker 1: energy is very tough to take. She's got the spiel down.
Speaker 1: You know if I was, If I was, i'd be
Speaker 1: one over. Apparently the logo for a Monster Energy, which
Speaker 1: kind of looks like the Jurassic Park three logo, it's
Speaker 1: like three dinosaur scratches, um, looks like the Hebrew symbol vav,
Speaker 1: which can stand for the letter six. So the label
Speaker 1: of Monster Energy can read six six six. I know, no, no,
Speaker 1: and Rachel is correcting us, which I was going to
Speaker 1: get to. That is not how you would write six
Speaker 1: six six in Hebrew, like you would write six D
Speaker 1: and sixty six or it would you would not just
Speaker 1: be those letters. But um, if you are Christie Wike,
Speaker 1: that would be how you would write it any through. UM.
Speaker 1: She also the tagline for Monster Energy Drinks beat this
Speaker 1: feels that's all I like about it. Of like ten
Speaker 1: ten years ago, maybe even the Monster Energy the O
Speaker 1: and Monster has a line through it which is like
Speaker 1: a five, like a Greek letter five. I have no
Speaker 1: idea why it says that, but she's like, it's across
Speaker 1: because the top of the oh is sort of flat.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, if you turn it the camp
Speaker 1: upside down because you're chucking a Monster Energy drink a
Speaker 1: cross the symbol of the Antichrist. I saw the South
Speaker 1: the Southland tails can cut at Lacma, and one of
Speaker 1: the things they talked about was everybody drinking tons of
Speaker 1: energy drinks the entire time, because it was during the
Speaker 1: peak of energy drinks. For Richard Kelly, the director said,
Speaker 1: everybody was pounding energy inns constantly, like cast and critical
Speaker 1: the age of energy drinks. In a better world where
Speaker 1: magazine still existed, we could have a good, uh oral
Speaker 1: history of energy drinks that's really great other than coffee.
Speaker 1: Other than coffee, I've never drunk a whole really, I
Speaker 1: can't handle it. Oh my god, No, I I've drink
Speaker 1: almost any energy drink that's ever been on the market
Speaker 1: I have tried, I will try any new energy drink.
Speaker 1: And I actually in looking at this thread about this
Speaker 1: um this whole conspiracy theory that was brought to us
Speaker 1: by a listener, John, one of our several Theologian listeners.
Speaker 1: They were talking about there's another energy drink that's I
Speaker 1: guess a proprietary of a supermarket Aldi which we've also
Speaker 1: discussed on this podcast, that has a cross symbol in
Speaker 1: the middle of it, which they were speculating was counter
Speaker 1: marketing to the Antichrist imagery on Mustard energy drink. That's
Speaker 1: really funny that the energy drink right then, it's like
Speaker 1: it's a promo to roll out your influencer energy drink.
Speaker 1: That's like holy water, put it in the hole where
Speaker 1: you're here. But there was a really great blog about
Speaker 1: about beverages that I like planned to revisit later because
Speaker 1: that's totally my up my alley. I love to read
Speaker 1: reviews of beverages. What's the best energy drink? The best
Speaker 1: is and I don't think they make it anymore. But
Speaker 1: there was a like quote all natural energy drink that
Speaker 1: they sold. I think they had like a Trader Joe's,
Speaker 1: you know, house brand version of it. And then there
Speaker 1: was I think the exact same formula that they sold
Speaker 1: by some other brand at Whole Foods, and they made
Speaker 1: an orange one of it. Uh, and I I could
Speaker 1: only deal with the full sugar ones because I'm I
Speaker 1: get headaches off of like sugar free ones. So that
Speaker 1: was one that was like I didn't have too much
Speaker 1: insane shit in it and but didn't give me a headache.
Speaker 1: And I wish I could remember what it's called, but
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think they sell it anymore, but
Speaker 1: it during the boom, it was like two five that
Speaker 1: I was drinking that a lot. Tess, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Just like straight coffee, I drink coffee. I drink a
Speaker 1: ton of coffee. Actually last week I had two pots
Speaker 1: of coffee, and I felt like that was a real
Speaker 1: game changer for me in terms of what if my
Speaker 1: monster energy coffee. Two pots of coffee was a lot
Speaker 1: of cups of coffee. But I was drinking them in
Speaker 1: uh my broommate actually I was, and I found because
Speaker 1: it stays really cold, and it also makes you able
Speaker 1: to ignore how many cups of coffee you're drinking because
Speaker 1: you're drinking like a you're like this is like a
Speaker 1: twenty four ounds cup of coffee. And then today I
Speaker 1: was telling Molly, I repeated, I don't think I had
Speaker 1: a full two pots of coffee. I had. Um, let's
Speaker 1: say ten cups would be dead if I drink the
Speaker 1: cups of coffee or probably one full sugar energy drink.
Speaker 1: I just I'm just a weak constitution. But I drink
Speaker 1: the milk tea. That is what is my my sprack.
Speaker 1: But you don't drink milk. But the milk teat is
Speaker 1: non dairy. That's the amazing No, it's coconut milk. It's
Speaker 1: the best. My poison is the rose milk tea at
Speaker 1: eighty five degrees celsius bakery. I don't know, tell me
Speaker 1: more so good. It's like Hong Kong milk tea. It's
Speaker 1: just like super milky and sugary if you can get
Speaker 1: it without a ton of sugar at it, and then
Speaker 1: it's got a rose flavored syrup in it, and then
Speaker 1: it gets you. It's like delicious. So you drink it
Speaker 1: really fast and then you are just through the roof sugar.
Speaker 1: Move along. My my scientific feeling about any energy drink
Speaker 1: or tea or macha or anything like that is that
Speaker 1: you need at least some sugar and fat in it
Speaker 1: to help it go through your body and affect your brain.
Speaker 1: I would do a thing a while ago where I
Speaker 1: cut out all sugar except um for fruit for four
Speaker 1: days and then afterwards. Now I cannot drink or eat
Speaker 1: sugary things like hardly at all. Uh. And so now
Speaker 1: I can't have like sugary coffee or sugary tea, like
Speaker 1: any kind of sugary drink is it's taste gross to me,
Speaker 1: Like it makes my teeth feel immediately like they're wearing
Speaker 1: little sweaters. It's not into it, can't do it. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I do think that the sugar definitely,
Speaker 1: because there is that whole like it's like the bulletproof
Speaker 1: thing where you need the fat for sure to kind
Speaker 1: of like synthesize that. But I think drink like putting
Speaker 1: butter in your coffee. Before we got a call from
Speaker 1: uh from a listener after our transcendental meditation discussion. Um,
Speaker 1: so it's actually we got an email from listener Bobby
Speaker 1: Ladies of Nightcall. I love the show, but besides my
Speaker 1: meager Patreon support, I felt like I haven't had anything
Speaker 1: to contribute until now. After going through a traumatic event
Speaker 1: in the military, I was made aware of the David
Speaker 1: Lynch Foundation and its subsidized TM courses for veterans. I've
Speaker 1: been practicing it now for over six months and it's
Speaker 1: been extremely helpful for me in battling PTSD as well
Speaker 1: as my pre existing depression and anxiety. Nobody that I've
Speaker 1: met at the organization has given me a CULTI vibe,
Speaker 1: and like Brian said, they haven't intruded into my life
Speaker 1: after the initial training. I'm not one for evangelizing, but
Speaker 1: I wish everyone could give TM a shot. Also, Emily,
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of meeting you on a side
Speaker 1: street in Laredo, Mexico a couple of years ago. Unless
Speaker 1: that was a weird dream, I mean I was definitely
Speaker 1: in Loretto, Mexico a couple of years ago, so it's
Speaker 1: probably me was I. We're in a lot of Delray shirt. Hi. Hi,
Speaker 1: Bobby Uh. We were talking about this more. I think
Speaker 1: after our chat with Brian Copple movement you can go
Speaker 1: back and listen to if you haven't listened to it yet.
Speaker 1: Um And I think I think that the money thing
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest like red flag that we have
Speaker 1: or about TM right as far as you know, Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm really glad that transcendental meditation helped
Speaker 1: Bobby with PTSD and managing anxiety, and also thank you
Speaker 1: for your service. But my issue is that I think
Speaker 1: it should be affordable for everyone. And there was a
Speaker 1: really interesting UM first person account I think it was
Speaker 1: in Vancouver magazine and the journalists Basically, it's just that
Speaker 1: it's about fifteen hundred dollars to kind of initiate yourself
Speaker 1: to get the secret information, which is basically your mantra,
Speaker 1: but also it's the ceremony. And the journalist who wrote
Speaker 1: this piece about her experience with this, so that she
Speaker 1: was not allowed to talk about UM the ceremony as
Speaker 1: well as the mantra. She asked what the mantra meant.
Speaker 1: They were like, it doesn't mean anything, it's fine. Then
Speaker 1: she looked it up and found that it does have
Speaker 1: some meaning and that it was given to I think
Speaker 1: all of the UM female members who were you know,
Speaker 1: at her seminar that day or whatever. There's also UM
Speaker 1: this thing and again like this is all in this
Speaker 1: this thing that I read, So I don't have any
Speaker 1: firsthand knowledge of this, but yeah, we'll link to it.
Speaker 1: You the kind of like selling point of like you
Speaker 1: can levitate to me, that's that's very that's like fringe
Speaker 1: ev it, right, Like I don't know. I've seen the
Speaker 1: DVD where David Lynch explains the levitating. What it really
Speaker 1: is is it's like you are sitting and meditating and
Speaker 1: you sort of start to like bounce in place. It's
Speaker 1: very silly seeming. However, I will say I totally believe
Speaker 1: in meditation as a mental health practice for sure, and
Speaker 1: I think that it is not pseudoscience. I think it
Speaker 1: is like real and that it does like lower your
Speaker 1: heart rate or whatever, you know, change your change the
Speaker 1: way your brain works. Um. And it should be free
Speaker 1: and it is free. You can meditate for free. Um.
Speaker 1: I think both of my parents took tom and have
Speaker 1: you know, nothing bad to say about it. I think
Speaker 1: it's like they did it once, they like got their
Speaker 1: mantras and got out. But again it's like I don't
Speaker 1: think they get out. They do not hound you for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life if you try to disengage,
Speaker 1: which is different from some yes CULTI things. So I
Speaker 1: think that is like at least you can, you can
Speaker 1: get out. I've read that you should look into a
Speaker 1: book called The Relaxation Response by Herbert Benson, because it's
Speaker 1: basically the same thing, but a book that doesn't cost
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars. And I was like, okay, I'll do that,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean, meditating is awesome, and I definitely
Speaker 1: think that the scholarships are a great idea. I think
Speaker 1: it's just that nobody should have to pay fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: for a mantra, just my personal opinion. I I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to getting to the point where I can. I can,
Speaker 1: I can try it and report back to you all.
Speaker 1: But of course I won't tell you my mantra. But
Speaker 1: you know, just yeah, but I'm very upwarding here. TM
Speaker 1: want to sponsor us, do it? You might change our tune,
Speaker 1: you know. I think that the main benefit of meditation
Speaker 1: right now is that it means that you have to
Speaker 1: look away from a screen. And the reason you might
Speaker 1: want to look away from a screen is this really
Speaker 1: terrifying news study. Oh my god, Molly, take it away.
Speaker 1: Oh this is the worst thing that's um, this is
Speaker 1: a wild ass episode. I have to We've got everything
Speaker 1: going on on this line this is this is a
Speaker 1: great night call. Um. Maybe not a great time in
Speaker 1: you know, society, but a great episode. Yeah, a great episode. Um.
Speaker 1: And also I will say that I because Emily made
Speaker 1: me paranoid about life science and the sources and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know where anything is being sourced from. Really,
Speaker 1: I assume these people are real. Um. I like double
Speaker 1: checked it with other BBC can't argue. BBC also reported
Speaker 1: on us um. So this is from the BBC link
Speaker 1: How modern life is Transforming the human skeleton by Zaria
Speaker 1: Gorvette Uh. The emergence of a spiky growth at the
Speaker 1: back of some people's skulls is causing people to wonder
Speaker 1: why we are all growing a weird bone on the
Speaker 1: back of our skulls. And it turns out it's from
Speaker 1: smartphone usage. Just just to be clear though, basically this
Speaker 1: this phenomenon has existed for a long time, but it
Speaker 1: was very rare, and now it's one. As many as
Speaker 1: one in four people between the ages of eighteen and
Speaker 1: thirty are growing these spikes at the base of their
Speaker 1: skulls that they vary in size, some of them have
Speaker 1: been big. I have been a clinician for twenty years
Speaker 1: and only in the last decade increasingly I have been
Speaker 1: discovering that my patients have this growth on the skull,
Speaker 1: says David Shahar help scientists at the University of the
Speaker 1: Sunshine Coast, Australia. The spike like feature, also no as
Speaker 1: the external occupital protuberance, is found at the lower back
Speaker 1: of the skull, just above the neck. If you have one,
Speaker 1: everyone feel if you have one, it's likely that you
Speaker 1: will be able to feel it with your four fingers.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have it? I can't tell. Is all
Speaker 1: I've been doing is feeling my neck, trying to feel
Speaker 1: if I have it, because I don't want it. So
Speaker 1: some of them are up to thirty millimeters, which is
Speaker 1: its big and they if you have no hair, they
Speaker 1: can even be visible. And yeah, so it's because it's
Speaker 1: too offset the weight of your head. So if your
Speaker 1: head is down your phone, it's ten pounds of strains.
Speaker 1: So the bone is trying to kind of offset that
Speaker 1: weight by adding more weight to the back to balance
Speaker 1: it out. It's not very much weight though, it's just
Speaker 1: a little oh it is. Oh, it is just the
Speaker 1: tip of the ice. As we hunch over our phones,
Speaker 1: we create our necks and hold our heads forwards. This
Speaker 1: is problematic cause the average head weighs around ten pounds
Speaker 1: as much as a large watermelon. As we all thanks
Speaker 1: to Jerry McGuire, uh and everybody has something called text neck,
Speaker 1: which is because your head is not meant to be
Speaker 1: craning over a phone all the time. It's really bad
Speaker 1: for you, and it's making people grow. It's well, it's
Speaker 1: really bad for you. Might be misleading. It is bad
Speaker 1: for you to look at the smartphones, but the bone itself,
Speaker 1: as people's are. Elbows are shrinking. Yes, people are getting
Speaker 1: weak elbows and weak and smaller jaws. But you know what. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I was doing this the other day. I had
Speaker 1: been my phone told me that I had been looking
Speaker 1: at it way too much, and I put down my
Speaker 1: phone and I rolled my eyes up. So I was
Speaker 1: looking at the ceiling and just by the just doing that,
Speaker 1: I realized it had been so long since I had
Speaker 1: looked up and then looked to the sides, and it
Speaker 1: felt like exercising if you've never exercised before. Exercise also
Speaker 1: fits in with what an eye doctor told me that
Speaker 1: scared the funk out of me a few years ago.
Speaker 1: When I saw her, um my eye doctor said that
Speaker 1: she was just seeing people's vision go bad really fast,
Speaker 1: a lot more than ever before because of smartphone usage.
Speaker 1: She was like, she was like, everyone's vision is degrading.
Speaker 1: She was like, there's no like official studies on it,
Speaker 1: but just like anecdotally from being an eye doctor, I
Speaker 1: can tell you that, like kids are looking at screens
Speaker 1: from the beginning of their lives. It's like not good
Speaker 1: for your eyes. Um the question is how are our
Speaker 1: bodies going to adapt to that? This is all just
Speaker 1: like is this some I think it's in a Philip K.
Speaker 1: Dick book where everybody has like in large skulls or
Speaker 1: something from from I don't know. It's like some way
Speaker 1: in which people have have It's also scary because there
Speaker 1: was like some horrible thing this week where some racists
Speaker 1: basically tried to bring up like the skull size, like
Speaker 1: you know, phrenology, like it was like or some sh
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean I try not to like look
Speaker 1: at my phone, Like I always feel like I'm like
Speaker 1: reacting against this on some level at all times, because
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to do the eye exercises and Tess
Speaker 1: and I are both looking at the ceiling right now.
Speaker 1: I never look up. I think if you wear glasses,
Speaker 1: obviously this becomes a vicious cycle. So you're looking at
Speaker 1: at screens a lot glasses, and then you're not looking
Speaker 1: above your glasses because you can't see, so it restricts
Speaker 1: your field of vision to below your eyebrows. It's like,
Speaker 1: we've all had these things for ten years. What is
Speaker 1: like the thing that would make you rethink it? Maybe
Speaker 1: a bone growing out of your skull. The bone again,
Speaker 1: the bone itself is not bad. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, I'm not going to be hating on
Speaker 1: the bone. It's just like it's it's like D evolution.
Speaker 1: We're gonna it's not it's it is evolution. But what
Speaker 1: if it's D evolution? What if this is going to
Speaker 1: like people will be on all fours like very soon,
Speaker 1: Maybe that would work out better for our lives style.
Speaker 1: I think the most interesting thing in this article was
Speaker 1: that I had never heard of osteo biography. But osteo
Speaker 1: biography is basically studying how people's bones tell the story
Speaker 1: of how they lived their lives and animals as well.
Speaker 1: And it's not it's like a non judgmental, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's a very kind of like neutral study. And they
Speaker 1: mentioned a goat I think in the BBC um link
Speaker 1: where the goat had like adapted because it didn't have
Speaker 1: front legs, so it had to adapt and it's it's
Speaker 1: skeleton change. And it makes sense. I mean, the things
Speaker 1: that you do repetitively are going to have anything. You
Speaker 1: guys want to be like craned over had flower. But
Speaker 1: the bone. The bone is not the bad thing, but
Speaker 1: the phones are the bad things, yes, but the bone.
Speaker 1: It's natural to freak out at something like that, But
Speaker 1: there are studies of people who just had crappy posture
Speaker 1: and we're reading too much and had these bones spites
Speaker 1: back in the day, like people like I mean, the
Speaker 1: I stuff is a little more alarming to me because
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always something there has always been
Speaker 1: some activity that will alter your physiology, like because you're
Speaker 1: a minor or something, or you uh work in a
Speaker 1: textile factory and have horrible lung infection or whatever the fact.
Speaker 1: So we all have a blog basically like I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's always been like an activity of dominant activity
Speaker 1: that like causes some sort of malady like widespread. So
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's new. It's just like this
Speaker 1: is linked to something particularly now. I think the I
Speaker 1: thing feels different though, because that's something having to do
Speaker 1: with an organ instead of like a muscular skeletal thing
Speaker 1: like that. Like the quality of light that we've been
Speaker 1: seen in our lives hasn't fundamentally changed until we started
Speaker 1: looking at screens all day, you know. Um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like it's interesting to think about, do you guys know
Speaker 1: Day of the Triffids. That it's an early like British
Speaker 1: sci Fi's about plants that take over. It's the best
Speaker 1: horror and it's like cozy catastrophe. It's like about a
Speaker 1: group of people trying to escape from the plants that
Speaker 1: are taking over everything. Um. But it's like they breed
Speaker 1: a plant and then it turns out the plant like
Speaker 1: squirts out of poison and it makes every human blind.
Speaker 1: Oh I have seen this, yes, I know. Yeah, Well
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the you know, the spitting dinosaurs
Speaker 1: from Jurassic Park. But I think the thing to consider
Speaker 1: with the bone spikes is that without the bone spike
Speaker 1: stood up straight. I know, without the bone spike, you're
Speaker 1: getting more next straight, the bone spike is your body
Speaker 1: trying to help itself out. That's why I say, don't
Speaker 1: hate the bone spike, hate the phone spike. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because the bone is just trying to
Speaker 1: help you. No, no, hold a pause, I want but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We should start a YouTube
Speaker 1: channel for you to be like the preacher the bones.
Speaker 1: Don't be mad at the bone spike, be mad at
Speaker 1: the phone. I just feel like everybody who knows me
Speaker 1: is probably like not worried about me getting a bone
Speaker 1: spike because I'm terrible at responding to text and emails
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because I'm I'm always the person
Speaker 1: who's like, what if I'm not looking at my phone
Speaker 1: right now? If I'm just like experiencing life, and well,
Speaker 1: good for you, that's known should my text? No, but
Speaker 1: there should be more pushback against being on your phone
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like we we passed the omega
Speaker 1: of like everyone's on their phones all the time. What
Speaker 1: if we like can go back? Okay, but here's the thing,
Speaker 1: here's the problem. And I so I have kids, but
Speaker 1: I think that people run into this also if they
Speaker 1: are a caretaker of any kind, is that this is
Speaker 1: the problem is that you get locked in whether you
Speaker 1: have kids or you're taking care of you know, an
Speaker 1: elderly parent or a sibling who can't take care of themselves,
Speaker 1: there is like an expectation. I mean, that's that's actually
Speaker 1: where technology I think has been so useful. A couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, my son was at school and he
Speaker 1: ran into this staircase and he had needed stitches, and
Speaker 1: he was at school and I was not at home,
Speaker 1: and the thought that, like, you know, you have your
Speaker 1: emergency contact, but then they can reach you. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with having a phone. I'm saying, like, no one for
Speaker 1: no internet on the phone, I can understand, but like,
Speaker 1: no more Twitter, Like but it have to be smart
Speaker 1: enough for texting now that there are garbage calls all
Speaker 1: the time. Though not even how that phone makes any
Speaker 1: sense because I don't pick up anything from a number
Speaker 1: I don't recognize and it could be an emergency, and
Speaker 1: I do occasionally one intent calls I'll pick up as
Speaker 1: long as it's not from all that. All that stuff
Speaker 1: is stupid. But like I'm saying, like that's fine. Those
Speaker 1: are all like using your phone when there's a reason
Speaker 1: it's fine. But just the purposeless like always being on it,
Speaker 1: always scrolling, like missing your life because you're on your phone,
Speaker 1: you know what I think? So this is only somewhat related. Um.
Speaker 1: So the other day I was talking with my dad
Speaker 1: because his father's say, and he and I were both
Speaker 1: complaining about like we had been behind drivers who were
Speaker 1: obviously texting, And I was like, do you think that
Speaker 1: it is like the responsibility of car manufacturers as well
Speaker 1: as cell phone manufacturers to disable a phone in the
Speaker 1: car other than for calls? Like do you think that
Speaker 1: that's kind of the new seatbelt thing where there's going
Speaker 1: to be like an annoying noise that will go on
Speaker 1: if your phone down, But this is only used for calls.
Speaker 1: This is like this should have been thought about. It's
Speaker 1: like unsafe at any spot. I'm bringing it up now
Speaker 1: happened until somebody famous dies from it? No, I I
Speaker 1: think I don't know about that because it's the kind
Speaker 1: of thing where if there were a bill introduced, it
Speaker 1: would be really hard for anyone to be like I disagree.
Speaker 1: If you're driving, you should be able to I never
Speaker 1: make a Nanny State joke unless I'm in like a
Speaker 1: rental car where it starts doing the beeping thing because
Speaker 1: I haven't buckled my seatbelt yet or somebody else hasn't
Speaker 1: buckled their seatbelt yet, and then I just screamed, like
Speaker 1: nanny state turn into different. The difference, Emily is that,
Speaker 1: and I totally agree. The difference is that you are
Speaker 1: risking your safety in life with a seatbelt, you are
Speaker 1: risking other people safe when I'm not saying I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that that's like the easiest time that that think
Speaker 1: too far come, and I think it's just not gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, mark my words. In ten years, this
Speaker 1: will happened. I mean, like honestly, what we need is
Speaker 1: like large scale regulation of like Uber and every other company.
Speaker 1: Yes that because like I like, the scariest Uber I
Speaker 1: was in was where like recently, where a driver was
Speaker 1: texting the whole time. I was like, did you report them? No?
Speaker 1: Because I was. It was also late at night and
Speaker 1: we were on the freeway, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be confrontational person who I'm in a
Speaker 1: car with while they're driving me, because like they could
Speaker 1: also like stare us into traffic if they want, Like
Speaker 1: that's just you know, I would want everybody who listens
Speaker 1: to the show, who's ever been in an uber where
Speaker 1: somebody where the driver is texting, fucking call that shut
Speaker 1: out asked to be let out, Like, don't work around
Speaker 1: with that. I will. I've got into fights with friends
Speaker 1: because they're texting and I'm driving them, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how will you feel when you kill me? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I said, I sound like the guy in Smithereens, but like,
Speaker 1: that's why I find it so depressing that the response
Speaker 1: to that that Black Mirror episode was like texting you're
Speaker 1: driving like wink wink wake. It's like, no, it's like
Speaker 1: a real thing that kills people every day. It's not
Speaker 1: I have so many ideas about this, you guys, because
Speaker 1: it's not just the texting, it's the wanting to read
Speaker 1: an article. Yeah, and then one, and then it was
Speaker 1: like someone should just do a thing where they pay,
Speaker 1: like you know, there's like a service and it's just finishes.
Speaker 1: It's someone who's sitting at home and they finished reading
Speaker 1: you the thing that you were reading. They just call
Speaker 1: you up and they're like, okay, where were you? All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish, and then they'll be like there's a
Speaker 1: link here. You want me to click the link and
Speaker 1: you're like yes, and then they read you that just
Speaker 1: but also here's what they'll do it. They're all thinking
Speaker 1: about that because they're thinking about how can we make
Speaker 1: driverless cars so that you can keep you never have
Speaker 1: to leave your phone and the robots just driving the car. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I also think that at all this coffee that's like
Speaker 1: letting the text message drive the car. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm into is conveyor belt freeways where you park your
Speaker 1: car and it's a conveyor belt and then you just
Speaker 1: like program in your stop and then you're back out
Speaker 1: and when you're back on the street you can drive.
Speaker 1: But while you're on the freeway, you're on a conveyor
Speaker 1: belt in neutral or park or whatever. Train I am,
Speaker 1: but it's your own personal train. It's your own car
Speaker 1: of the train, right, but it is a train. I
Speaker 1: think you get to have it. You just invented is
Speaker 1: the people move from Island tram. I thought you were
Speaker 1: always picturing also giant conveyor belts, like standing conveyor belt freeways.
Speaker 1: I'm into that too. I'm into all of it. I'm
Speaker 1: driving that you guys can I just say driving is great.
Speaker 1: We should move on to the next to write horrifying
Speaker 1: thing that we have to talk about because we have
Speaker 1: so many left and we don't have much time left.
Speaker 1: Night call says, hey, don't text and drive. You don't
Speaker 1: have much time left, and don't check your Instagram. Don't
Speaker 1: take the fucking picture of yourself on the four oh five.
Speaker 1: Don't You can wait, but if you need someone to
Speaker 1: finish reading the article to you, just email me and
Speaker 1: if I'm at home, I'll pick up the phone. I'll
Speaker 1: call you and I'll finish reading it so that you
Speaker 1: can concentrate on driving at the at the at the
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollar a month level of our patriots.
Speaker 1: I actually am serious. I'll do it save lives. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have an email from zach Um again I hate it.
Speaker 1: Most of our topics this this week. I think the
Speaker 1: theme for me, at least personally, is I hate it.
Speaker 1: Uh Okay, Hi, A night call, Zack. Here from the
Speaker 1: greatest city on Earth, Canberra, Australia. I've been making my
Speaker 1: way through every episode currently Needy had been the Ocean
Speaker 1: Creatures Face and just wondering what your thoughts are on
Speaker 1: the elbow squid. I vividly remember the first time I
Speaker 1: saw that video from under the oil rig in religion
Speaker 1: class in year ten of the squid just floating a
Speaker 1: ways off and the sheered red I felt looking at it,
Speaker 1: just floating there with its elbow tentacles. I think about
Speaker 1: them every time I go into the ocean. Now that
Speaker 1: they've been filmed a few more times, the spooky sheet
Speaker 1: has wiped off a bit, but still they've got to
Speaker 1: be Aliens, right, I mean, odds are if a ship
Speaker 1: landed it would go into the ocean, given that that's
Speaker 1: most of the planet. Thank you, Zach, I mean like
Speaker 1: not thank you, though I hate this so much. I
Speaker 1: can't believe I've never seen this before. So the elbow squid,
Speaker 1: there's also it's also called the big Finn squid. So
Speaker 1: the big Finn squid is not to be confused with
Speaker 1: the big Finn reef squid, which is like more like
Speaker 1: a um. It looks a little more like cuttle fishy um.
Speaker 1: The big Finn squid looks like a terrifying spider that
Speaker 1: lives very deep in the ocean. I think all the
Speaker 1: all the places they found it has been uh like yeah,
Speaker 1: nine thousand feet deep like thereabouts. It is a pretty
Speaker 1: large squid that can but mostly tentacles. It's mostly surprised
Speaker 1: like long, like it's it's it's big um and the
Speaker 1: and the it's head. It's um. I forget what that's
Speaker 1: called on a cephalopod, but um. It's like it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of narrow, but it's got these huge wings, which
Speaker 1: is why it's called the big fin squid. UM. It
Speaker 1: was not really regularly observed until later in the twentieth century,
Speaker 1: and there wasn't really a clear video of it until
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, two thousand, that's the video that um
Speaker 1: that Zach was referring to. I will invite everybody to
Speaker 1: do a Google image search or a YouTube search of it,
Speaker 1: because I find this creature extremely upsetting and I hate it. Emily,
Speaker 1: Why why I wasn't scared of it? I was like,
Speaker 1: when you know, you gave us a warning to Google
Speaker 1: with cash and and I saw it, and yes, it's
Speaker 1: for some reason. There is something kind of freaky about
Speaker 1: the very thin, long tentacles. Sometimes I look really stiff,
Speaker 1: like they look like Daddy long legs, Like do you
Speaker 1: not like Daddy long? No? I hate Daddy interesting legs
Speaker 1: are no other other bugs. I'm not anti. The only
Speaker 1: thing that bugs me about the Daddy long legs is
Speaker 1: when you see one lose its leg, and then everything
Speaker 1: goes into the respect. I respect spiders, and so I
Speaker 1: respect these sea spiders and these squids that look like spiders.
Speaker 1: I I detest and respect spiders I have. Octopuses were
Speaker 1: like my first big fear, like the my real Boogeyman
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, because I would just watch
Speaker 1: this episode of Nature over and over and over again
Speaker 1: that had like a scene with an octopus in it,
Speaker 1: and I would just watch that scene just to freak
Speaker 1: myself out constantly when I was a kid. Um And
Speaker 1: they don't really like most octavistes don't really do that
Speaker 1: for me anymore. But when I saw this video, I
Speaker 1: was taken all the way back to that like four
Speaker 1: year old feeling of like, oh God, like, what's under
Speaker 1: the ocean? The weirdest thing. Yeah, I gotta say like
Speaker 1: it's a cliche, but the squid and the whale thing
Speaker 1: at the Natural History Museum just truly one of the
Speaker 1: most frightening things in the world because you get close
Speaker 1: to it and you feel like it's going to come
Speaker 1: alive and it's got yeah, and just the way it's lit.
Speaker 1: I love the whole thing. But I remember just like
Speaker 1: seeing it as a kid and being like, imagine being
Speaker 1: in the ocean, right and you see this, like we
Speaker 1: are so meaningless. You know what this elbow squid looks
Speaker 1: like to me? As a scalp massagery exactly like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's uncanny is it has an elbow and
Speaker 1: as we humans are losing and it has no bones.
Speaker 1: But maybe we're going to become more like the elbow squad.
Speaker 1: Tess and I are both kind of making our arms
Speaker 1: like squid. It feels really good, like doing like jazz
Speaker 1: hands or something. But would the smartphones have done? They
Speaker 1: made us forget to do our squid hand exercises, just
Speaker 1: like Jennifer North, This is like the o a. It's
Speaker 1: going to turn into us eventually doing some kind of
Speaker 1: like squid. Yeah, yes, well squid. But so the the
Speaker 1: the idea of it being an alien is not all
Speaker 1: that far fetched, simply because it was so recently discovered.
Speaker 1: Like nobody knew about this thing until like, you know,
Speaker 1: fifty years ago or something, and even then they didn't
Speaker 1: really know how to classify it finally got a genus
Speaker 1: and um in the nineties, so nobody really knew what
Speaker 1: you know, nobody had really lined up all these different
Speaker 1: sightings of the same thing. Yeah, so it does just
Speaker 1: feel like something genuinely alien, because it's not if you
Speaker 1: were if you went to school or like loved sea
Speaker 1: creatures in the seventies, you wouldn't have known about this thing.
Speaker 1: Like nobody knew about it. It's like a new there's
Speaker 1: still things, Yeah, there's still new things, still new things. Hey,
Speaker 1: but some of those things are terrible wings and I
Speaker 1: think that we should close our show by talking about
Speaker 1: one of them that also kind of tangentially involves creatures,
Speaker 1: which is Yeah, so this is something that has escaped
Speaker 1: our attention for a while. Even though this is based
Speaker 1: in events that happened a couple of years ago. There
Speaker 1: is currently a murder trial or I guess the murder
Speaker 1: style just concluded um featuring to a couple, a man
Speaker 1: and a woman who were involved in an alien reptile cult.
Speaker 1: And so a lot of information has now become kind
Speaker 1: of more mainstream about this alien reptile cult. And of course,
Speaker 1: thank you to the night caller who brought this to
Speaker 1: our attention. I was like, yeah, alien reptile called tell
Speaker 1: me more. So I don't know if you can classify
Speaker 1: it as a cult. I mean it is certainly, it
Speaker 1: is certainly out there. And this lady feels like a
Speaker 1: real piece of work. That's sort of the main proprietor
Speaker 1: of it. Cherry Schriner Uh profits here, which is not
Speaker 1: a good name, yes, not a good pension names on
Speaker 1: the podcast uh. But she describes herself as a prophet
Speaker 1: seer which is misspelled, ambassador messenger and daughter of the
Speaker 1: Most High um. And she has a she has just
Speaker 1: strong internet presence. She's got a Twitter, she's got a
Speaker 1: YouTube with an alarming amount of views on it, and
Speaker 1: most importantly, she has a Patreon with nine subscribers that
Speaker 1: bears an uncanny resemblance to the night called Patreon. Horrifying
Speaker 1: to discover that. So Sherry Shiner, by the way, Sherry
Speaker 1: Shiner has died, but her online presence is maintained her website.
Speaker 1: Don't look at it, but you will tell you about it. Um. Basically, Oh,
Speaker 1: I looked at it too. I just don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to drive traffic to her. She's a
Speaker 1: terrible again another you know, like the monster energy drink
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. She is not a good person. She's very
Speaker 1: awfully anti submitted, transphobic, xenophobic, all of that, because of
Speaker 1: course she believes that, um, you know, there are reptilian
Speaker 1: aliens who are masquerading as humans and they're going to
Speaker 1: bring about the new world order order. And she also
Speaker 1: has in some of her videos, um celebrity faces, and
Speaker 1: she's talking about how she can prove that they are
Speaker 1: reptile aliens. So the cost people's stuff classic like they like, oh,
Speaker 1: we have slowed down imagery of like somebody's eyes doing
Speaker 1: like a reptile blink, that kind of thing, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: that variety. But it got even weirder because so during
Speaker 1: this murder trial where this woman UM whose name is
Speaker 1: Barbara Rogers, also a good pension name Barbara Rodgers, is
Speaker 1: accused and has been convicted of third degree manslaughter, I
Speaker 1: think of killing her boyfriend who was a member of
Speaker 1: this group. And during I guess like during the course
Speaker 1: of their relationship, m. Barbara Rodgers was not as down
Speaker 1: with Harry Shiner's whole rhetoric as her boyfriend was, and
Speaker 1: at one point this woman posted a picture of steaked
Speaker 1: tartar on Facebook and was like great with some minced
Speaker 1: garlic and sherry. Shiner flipped out and was like, I
Speaker 1: think I even have a quote from her here. She's
Speaker 1: just got uh they craved the blood those with the
Speaker 1: vampire demon in them. So she was like, I know
Speaker 1: that this woman is a witch and a VAMPI described
Speaker 1: her as a vampire, which Reptilian super soldier there. I
Speaker 1: told Stephen that that like she had basically prophesied that
Speaker 1: this this his girlfriend, who I guess was also involved
Speaker 1: with this, but maybe wasn't just less just less so
Speaker 1: that like she was going to bring about his doom
Speaker 1: like she would she would harm him or kill him
Speaker 1: or something. So I think that this led to this
Speaker 1: fight where in according to Barbara, who shot her boyfriend
Speaker 1: point blank in the head, but he was holding his
Speaker 1: gun to his own head and making her shoes. He
Speaker 1: was like, pull the trigger, pull the and she was
Speaker 1: like okay, which also, I mean, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody made the right decision in this situation. Um,
Speaker 1: but it is like it's kind of bizarre that it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, she she was It's basically a self fulfilling
Speaker 1: prophecy and like the most obvious way possible. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I when did she die. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that she had died. I think she died
Speaker 1: in sixteen. I think it was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: year before the murder occurred. Oh interesting, okay, because she
Speaker 1: I was very I was watching one of her many
Speaker 1: videos and she was talking about how many attempts there
Speaker 1: had been on her life, that people are constantly trying
Speaker 1: to poison her and kill her. But I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that she was Oh, maybe she's still alive. I thought
Speaker 1: I read that she had died. Well she I mean,
Speaker 1: I kind of started going down. Maybe she's a lizard person. Now.
Speaker 1: She's got a lot of like diversified interests. One of
Speaker 1: them she's very interested in, like the raw meat thing,
Speaker 1: and also like cannibalism and restaurants. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: videos of people dragging what are supposed to be body
Speaker 1: bags on security cameras at hotels to the kitchens of
Speaker 1: like hotel restaurants to serve human meat. That's a common theme.
Speaker 1: And but the thing is that like, like you you
Speaker 1: hear all this stuff you're like, it's pretty fringy. You see,
Speaker 1: she only has like nine followers on Patreon, and like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's pretty fringey. But the videos are like where and
Speaker 1: this is like goes back to everything that people have
Speaker 1: been talking about YouTube right now, or it's just like
Speaker 1: if you get on an algorithm, like I'm sure my
Speaker 1: algorithm is affected now because I've watched like four of
Speaker 1: her videos or like part of four videos. Oh, you
Speaker 1: can't watch anything without it leading you to the worst
Speaker 1: things in the world. It's honestly, it's like I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of these things, they're like it's an experiment.
Speaker 1: We just like we're not allowed to intervene because we
Speaker 1: have to see how the experiment takes its and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: guess what. It leads to fascism always that's why you
Speaker 1: have to interfere. It leads to like at least to
Speaker 1: like domestic dispute, which like comes down to the belief
Speaker 1: in this, you know, really really far out there conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory that like you don't directly cause somebody's death. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's by the way, I just fact checked. So
Speaker 1: Shriner died less than a year after Mania, who was
Speaker 1: the boyfriend, because she's talked about she's talked about this
Speaker 1: whole case, like after after his death. She's she's discussed it.
Speaker 1: It's very exhausting, and it's like it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: I find I find all this stuff to be uh
Speaker 1: like just deceptively easy to like laugh about or just
Speaker 1: kind of gawk at until you realize, like I mean
Speaker 1: that the yeah, the cold shower at the end is like,
Speaker 1: how many people have actually been watching this? Maybe you
Speaker 1: just kind of more of more of a curiosity of
Speaker 1: those things where you're like, real people don't believe this,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, they do things like anti vaccing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about recently. Well also I think it
Speaker 1: was in The New Republic who wrote about this same
Speaker 1: case earlier this month, but they were talking about how
Speaker 1: cults and these conspiracy theories, um that YouTube is kind
Speaker 1: of the perfect medium for getting people into these cults
Speaker 1: because you do enter a trance like state, and Sherry
Speaker 1: Shriner was very you know, and because of auto exactly,
Speaker 1: and they were like, maybe it's the fact that people
Speaker 1: who are watching all of these videos and kind of
Speaker 1: consuming like hour after hour after hour video it does
Speaker 1: kind of like numb you and you're receiving information and
Speaker 1: you can't really tell what's real or false. And if
Speaker 1: you watch any history documentary, it leads you to a
Speaker 1: bunch of Ye. You can't just like learn about history
Speaker 1: without it being fraught in some way because people are
Speaker 1: people are gaming it, who are attempting to be like,
Speaker 1: oh what, you're interested in history? Yeah? What? What? What
Speaker 1: can we learn from this? If you've got any questions
Speaker 1: about lizard people, aliens, undersea aliens, if there are any
Speaker 1: good like like, I feel like the lizard people one
Speaker 1: is one of these just like boilerplate conspiracy theories. It's
Speaker 1: been going around for a while, and like I feel
Speaker 1: like we kind of just like I feel like everybody's
Speaker 1: just like, oh yeah whatever, like that's what crazy people
Speaker 1: believe in. But if there's anyone that you think deserves
Speaker 1: our scrutiny for whatever particular reason, let us know. We'll
Speaker 1: check it out, because we're really down to mess up
Speaker 1: our our algorithm on YouTube. Oh yeah, the algorithms trash.
Speaker 1: Let's make it. Let's make it even trash here. Also,
Speaker 1: if you have thoughts about how to improve drivers safety,
Speaker 1: how to keep the bone spikes out of our skulls,
Speaker 1: or how to improve the modern experience. Please give us
Speaker 1: like just keep picturing somebody like l O l ng
Speaker 1: and just like impaling themselves on their own bone spike.
Speaker 1: You can it's in the back of your head, but
Speaker 1: you just laugh, you throw your head back hard. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying eventually it's going to be like a unicorn horn.
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