WEBVTT - Greatest Underdogs with Justin Halpern 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.680 Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:15.280 Welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm CJ. Toldano, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.040 joined by my I'm Megan Gaily. Sorry, I was clearing 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.400 my when you and I didn't know if the people 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.239 so you just jumped right in. No, no no, no, I 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:27.560 was clearing my throat when you started. Where I look 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.600 a certain way. We're in the laundry room. Well, yeah, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.519 let's set it up a little bit. It is actually 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.919 we're recording at an all time atout wacky week and 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.440 so it is seven pm on a Saturday. This is 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.599 the first podcast of ours that I've done where I'm 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.879 having a cocktail, so making tiving a cocktail, has sunglasses on, 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.800 has biking shorts, and we're in our laundry nook uh. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.640 And we're actually joined by our guests for this episode, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.400 Justin Halpern. Justin, how are you doing? I'm doing good. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.800 Thanks for having me get the credits. I know I 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.000 was gonna I was just like I felt myself rolling 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.600 into the intro, was like, Okay, well, now are you 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.039 going to give them? Yes? Okay, you may know him 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.120 from his TV shows that ship my dad says, Surviving 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.560 Jack and now the very popular Harley Quinn is that 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.640 those are those are great credits. Well, I don't know 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:21.200 if all of them are good credits, but well they're 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.640 all good because they all matter. You would be shocked 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.480 the things that people will credit for comedians sometimes. But 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.720 like she was on Comedy Knockout, and it's like, I'm 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.240 good for Comedy knock Out. I'm so thrilled to have 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.679 the trophy, but I don't consider that at the top 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.000 of my resume. It's great, it's it's a literal she 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.440 has the actual tangible credit. It's a trophy that sits 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.440 in our living room. Uh so I like to credit 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.200 that justin how are you? You know, I'm doing pretty 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.120 well considering all things that people are going through. I 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.520 feel like I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing great. I 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.320 got a I got a good beard which is even 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:06.000 more even more Jewish than I looked normal. How big? 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.440 How big are we talking? We talking James Harden level 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:15.040 or that's my beard measurement at this point. No, my 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:21.160 beard looks like James Cardon's beard's child. Not that's good though. See, yeah, 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.200 James Harden's beard is actually a little too much for me. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:26.920 I'm always like, I wish it was a little less, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.840 not that he cares what I think. So you describing 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:34.240 yours that's actually right in my beard wheelhouse. Well, thank you, Magan. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.360 I appreciate that. I feel good about it. A father 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.200 of two, what are the ages? So my seven year 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.800 old seven year old boy named Miles and then a 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.000 four year old boy named Toby. Wow. Okay, so seven 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.240 year old Miles, he's you're having to teach him. Yeah. Yeah, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.880 it's funny because like, um, so he doesn't zoom. Classes 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:58.240 every day for his school and then they send us homework. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.560 And my wife is a rapis and so she's working 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.840 from home too. She's doing you know, teletherapy and and 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.080 she works with a lot of veteran to a PTSD. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.360 So the other day I go when I get his 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.360 homework out of the printer and I give it to him, 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.520 and he's like, I don't know how to do this 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.040 this one and normally you can do it all. And 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.120 so I'm looking at it and like I'm like, I 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.080 don't know what the funk. I don't know how to 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.079 do this either. First grade homework. And then and then 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.880 I showed to my I showed it to my wife 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.400 and she's like, this is an assessment to see if 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:38.440 someone has PTS. I'd taking her work. She's doesn't. He 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.200 doesn't happen. I genuinely for a second thought. The school 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:46.680 had sent it as let it in and see how 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.840 the kids are doing, you know, and all the ones 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:55.960 that fail, we'll call CPS. It's like they're they're they're 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.000 sleeper self. Yeah, hey kids, we've got a special assignment. Um, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.160 you're gonna lift up your shirt and show us if 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.240 you have any wounds. But justin I've actually I haven't 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:06.960 asked a parent this, just because I don't want them 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.360 to have to relive it in their head. But like, 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.200 of the actual homework of a first grader, are there 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.280 stuff and what specifically has like thrown you off or 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.720 been like, I don't know either, it's been so long, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.599 you know. The reason I was like, I was like, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.320 maybe I don't know how to do this is because 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.680 they do common core. I don't know if you guys 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.239 know what that is. It's this weird The public school 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.960 system shifted a few years ago and it and it 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.960 does this really weird way of teaching math, and it 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.120 makes no sense that I can't understand it at all, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.560 so like they won't do seven plus four. It will 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.440 be like seven groups have been associated with four groups, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.919 but four of those groups are not associated with the 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.599 other three groups. And you're like, I don't know what 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.839 this is. Yeah, all my teachers and they're all like, Okay, 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.000 here's the shortcut. Here's like the cheat code, Like use 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.240 every single cheat code that I'm gonna give you. It 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.719 was never like let's figure out why these things happen 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.919 or like equal to each other. Well, I mean I 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.440 can get in, I can get into a really philosophical 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.560 discussion about this, but unfortunately, schools have had to pivot 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.400 to teach kids how to pass standardized testing. And I 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.839 don't think that I personally don't believe that's how a 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:19.560 child's knowledge should be judged. I think it should be 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.000 judged on a lot of different things. I say, leave 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.839 some children behind to do other things, not behind behind, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.400 but let them play in the dirt. And these kids, 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.599 they don't make the vaccine. We don't all have to 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.279 make the vaccine. Yeah, I was playing the dirt kid 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.960 and I figured it out. It was just some alternative routes. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.599 And here we are, so I'm glad you're doing so well. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.400 Um or not, I'm glad you love quarantine. No, I'm 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.200 glad that you are doing well. I'm glad that you 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.480 married someone who literally sounds like a saint. Um. You 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:59.560 are from San Diego, and my hometown of Indianapolis has 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.599 just acquired Some would say I'm not a great gift, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.880 but we got a gift from San Diego. And you 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.400 are the first person from that town that I've talked 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.839 to since Philip Rivers became a cults player. And I 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.480 guess I'm just looking for maybe like some advice, some hope, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.200 some negative whatever whatever you want to impart. All right, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:25.279 here's what you're right. First off, you're in store for, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.839 at some point during the season as probably the most 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:34.360 inopportune time, he's going to endorse the worst senator Congress 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.720 candidate you've ever seen. It'll be like they'll be like 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.360 some congressman who's like, I think that we should force 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.880 everyone to have a child and women should strapped to 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.400 a bed, and Philip Phillip will cut an ad for him. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:52.119 Oh yeah, So that's that's that's number one. Number two 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.799 is I hope you like backbreaking? Pick six is because 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.720 you know they're not my favorite, but I definitely uh, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.120 you know, luck look gave us a little appetizer of 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.440 those we he had some, He had some, but he 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.720 had better politics. I think Phil is just like he's 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.280 always good enough to keep you in the game. You know, 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.040 you'll always you'll always be in the game in the 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.840 fourth quarter, and then he just will never ever make 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.520 the throw you need him to make. You know, like 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.160 you you rooted for Peyton Manning for such a long time, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.280 Like Peyton makes those throws. Those are the throws. Those 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.520 are like that's the only like if you can keep 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.600 him up right, he can make the throws. But the 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.520 problem is the problem is this is like he just 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.480 he forces ship late in the game, and it's like 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.040 we would all laugh, like my buddies were all wet, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.480 all text each other watching the games because you could 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.880 almost even like sense when it was coming, like watching 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.840 a rerun of side of like sign fell, where you're like, oh, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.840 I know what, I know what Kramer does right here, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.360 Like that's what it is. As a fan, I have 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.400 to say that's almost more frustrating than just being bad 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.960 from the beginning, because was like if the Colts, if 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.720 whatever team you love. If they're down by four team 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.120 going into the fourth quarter, you're like, I'm good, I'm 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.040 gonna take a nap. But like, he's the type. It's like, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.560 it'll be close. You have to watch the you have 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:17.440 to spend extra time losing. Yeah, that's exactly correct, like Charges. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.560 I think San Diego. San Diego has not often thought 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.840 of as a tortured sports city because it's a beautiful 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.880 city and after the losses you can go outside and 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.600 you can go to a figure, you can go to 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.680 the you know, mountains or whatever you need to do. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.480 But San Diego has one of the most tortured fan bases. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.280 Like the Chargers have been good for a long time, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.880 but they lose in the most excruciating ways possible for 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.840 as long as possible. And it's still and Philip is 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.320 like a big reason. Why Well, what did you tell 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.280 me earlier, Megan? This morning you said to me, you 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:56.000 have to pretend to care about Philip rivers and pretend 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.800 to care. Yeah, I I woke up this morning and 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.120 c J gave me a debrief of what I've done 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.640 in my sleep, which is just tell me if you've 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.120 ever experienced this. But like Megan in the middle of 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.959 her sleep just went whoo, and then I told her 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.079 she did this, and then she was able to pinpoint 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.480 what was happening in the dream. In my dream, I 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.839 was at a Cults game and they sacked the quarter 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.480 It was like it was one of those things where 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.800 it was like there weren't specifics of who players were. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.320 But in the dream, I'm like, I am watching the Cults. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.240 We were. I was at an away game and the 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.120 quarterback for the other team, the quarterback for the other 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.880 team got sacked and I would and I didn't know 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.040 I would in my sleep. But when he said that, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.880 I had forgotten the dream. But when he said that, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.880 I was like, I went to a Cults game. I 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:43.560 loved it. It's like, your your dreams sound so fun. Well, oh, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.160 I mean my dreams are actually pretty fun. I would 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.840 say my awake head voices are very dark. You know. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.040 That's my that's my yang and yang. My inner monologue 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.160 is not doing well. And like, bottom line, I was 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.720 jealous of you that you were like watching a sporting 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.280 event and that you could not predict in any state 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.520 of like just missing it so much. I mean justin 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.800 you're also you're very talented, you know writer and showing her. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.640 But also I just wanted to talk to or make 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.040 some sort of communication with someone who I played sports with, 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.360 and you came to mind. So like, it's just great 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.520 hearing your voice right now, and the fact that you 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.840 tell us before the phone call it you were playing 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.080 basketball with your son all day, Like, what what's your 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.839 setup over there? So we when I when we bought 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.120 our house, we bought our house about ten years ago, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:37.679 justin get in in good for you, I know, I know, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.440 we we uh we. That's my thing is right after 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.840 a huge crisis, I make a large purchase. Um, anyone 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.760 saying they bought their house ten years ago, I'm like, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:52.720 you are screwged like you are so you are Jeff 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.240 Bezos to me in my head right now, please please 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.640 Well I am bald, so you know, um I Well, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.640 So I put in the first thing I did before 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.800 I had kids. I was like, I said to my wife, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.679 there was this area in the backyard that had this 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.640 was just like covered in dirt, and I was like, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.480 we're gonna pay this and I'm gonna go to this 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.520 company that puts in like a really nice court and 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.600 had really nice hoop, and so it's not a huge area. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.600 It's basically like you know, a key with five to 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.560 ten five five five to ten feet on either side, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.120 and then it goes back to about like a little 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.120 behind the free stro line, and then there's a small 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.480 area that's like in college three that I can choose. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:36.800 It's kind of an oddly sha area, but it's big enough. Um. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.000 And so I put it in thinking that I would 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.320 use it all the time, and I do, and I 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.560 do use it, but my kids use it like non 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.880 stuff like my kids. It's so funny too, because like, 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.040 you know, I didn't you know, I hadn't put my 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.320 kids in any leagues yet. My older kid, I hadn't 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.199 put him any any league, but he played don Stock. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:59.720 He played all the time. But I had no idea 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.640 like how other kids were playing. So I put him 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.199 in this league of six year old and he's dropping 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.280 like thirty game. Oh my god, he's the Brownnie Jaynes 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:13.640 of the little kids. That's so cute though, that's amazing. Yeah, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.800 So that's what we do. We played back. Did they 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.160 play there? They played? Probably? I mean my kids play 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.960 like an hour and a half a day. Probably they 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:25.040 played CJ. Is nodding and making faces like he's a 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.760 pre pubescent boy who just found a girl's gone wild 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.280 VHS Like he's like he's going like, oh yeah, well, 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.560 because over the quarantine, I I panic. I like my 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.800 former panicking was like I have to buy things so 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.000 I can entertain myself during this quarantine. And so far 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.680 I've bought a ping pong table, a Papa shot, and 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.680 then a like just one of those portable hoops for 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.520 the driveway. And then like I think I've told Megan, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.600 yeah no, we're when we have a son. It's like 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.120 the audacity of me to assume we're gonna have a 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.320 son in that they will play basketball for what to 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.760 validate my purchases now? Is now that I say? I mean, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.360 and if I said to him, well, what if you 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.360 don't want to play basketball with your daughter? You don't 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.320 want to play basketball with your hypothetical daughter, that girl, dad, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.640 you don't care about her? Um so CJ. Yeah, he's 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.400 dealing with a lot of Yeah. I just look out. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.760 I see all these basketball hoops, and I know that's 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.679 where his love really lies. I went in my sleep 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.280 to the Colts. It's like, I don't love you as 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.000 much as them. It's okay, I just missed Justin and 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.400 the guys that Tuesday night. You missed Justin and the 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.040 It's just yeah, it's a real competition. Beating you in 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.760 in Pig is not he won't even let me play horse, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.920 not even good enough to do more letters. Um, okay, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:45.400 So we picked this topic last night, and then today 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.520 a very like moving Nike commercial came out that like 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.880 kind of stirred me and made me even more excited 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.400 for this. So this is this is not the Cinderella, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.800 it's not the comeback, but it is the greatest underdog. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.480 So someone who went into a situation no one thought 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.360 they were the team went into it, no one thought 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.360 they could win. Everything was stacked against them. And yeah, 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.240 I just think this is kind of like a feel 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.400 good quarantine topic. So it made me happy researching. Now, 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.800 you cried about Paul George, but that's another well I 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.720 cried about a different Yeah, there's you know, tears happened 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.040 about your day? Um, all right, Justin, why don't you 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.400 kick us off with your your third pick? Okay? So 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.000 I I also really loved this topic because I just 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:35.360 love underdog stories. Um, and I there's so many that 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.120 I loved um, So I picked the ones that I 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.200 had like the most emotional reaction to perfect um and 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.120 one ones that I like either experienced or re experienced 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.800 when I learned about them if I wasn't alive with them. Okay, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.760 So my number three is that we believe Warriors beating 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.320 the Dallas Mavericks in the first round of the two 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:02.000 seven uh NBA Playoff. For me, I watched, I watched 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.840 that entire series. I love Baron Davis uh and it 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.560 just felt like one of those things where no one 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.880 expected in the win, but it was the combination of 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.400 no one expected to win and then this like fan 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:18.680 base that was like all tickets like old school season 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.600 ticket holders. The tickets were cheap because my wife's from 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.640 the Bay Area, so like we would go to games 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.680 and they'd be like nothing, like you could just like 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.400 sometimes you could walk if you were just walking near 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.680 Oracle that you could just somebody would just give you 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.880 tickets for the game. It's like it was crazy. So 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.640 it was this like crowd that was so electric and 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.920 so like insane. This team that played this like really 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.680 weird like Don Nelson style of basketball that like was 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.720 both was both at the same time, like ahead of 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:53.080 its time and behind this time. So bizarre. And and 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:54.960 by the way, the other thing people forget about that 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.080 we believe team was that they had to go on 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.320 a huge run just to make the playoffs they finished. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.320 It wasn't like they were like a forty eight and 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.480 thirty four team. They were like they barely made the 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.600 playoffs and they had to do go on a run 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.520 to do it. And Dirk was the m v P 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.200 no I mean. And and in sports, especially in the 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.640 n b A, you pretty much find out who a 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.120 team is by All Star Break and there that everyone 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.000 pretty much performs to you know, Uh, they're so like that. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.240 I remember that series being so insane. And then like 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.200 the celebrities they started, Like I was like, I didn't 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.720 know the Warriors had celebrity fans, but I think like 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.440 Snoop Dogg at that time, and like I think Jessica 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:45.280 Alba was like another Yeah, Kate Hudson, uh, And I 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.880 always loved the Warriors and those those uniforms too. We 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.480 we did already have greatest uniforms, but like those are 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.040 some of the sickest NBA uniforms ever. It is wild 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.560 to hear you say that just like in two thousand 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:02.040 and seven, the fan base was so different. Like part 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.000 of the reason that the Warriors, I think we're not 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:10.280 the most fun to root for during their very much dynasty. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.480 Would you would like look around and be like, yeah, 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.480 these are all like executives at Uber and Twitter and Facebook, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.280 and like it was like when Lebron was in Miami, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.560 You're just like, everybody looks like they smuggle cocaine. And 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.479 I know that's not nice to say, but like you 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.840 can you've seen the people courtside and you're like, oh, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.480 I mean the Warriors minority holder got had to like 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.400 give us to give us shares away because he grabs 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.439 a black player too aggressively. It's just like, wow, in 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.760 thirteen years it went from like they were underdogs to 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:45.480 a dynasty, which is I mean, obviously extremely cool way 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.119 to go. But the fans and like I wish it 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.560 was still those fans that got to go to the games. Yeah. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.280 That's another like really good point is that you know, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.720 the tech money wasn't interested, Like if you were a 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.320 tech company year Booth was like you bought your box 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:07.520 for the Giant. You weren't in Oakland, you know, um, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.480 and so it wasn't. It didn't have any of that 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.159 like smart, smarmie like ship head vibe to it is 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.119 just like all these hardcore Oakland fans and for you know, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.040 I'm sure you guys have been to Oakland, Like the 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.840 vibe of that city is very much like don't funk 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.240 with us, We love who we love. It was a 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:29.440 greaters fans at Warriors games, which to me, I wouldn't prefer. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.960 Like that sounds so cool and wild. Um, okay, that's 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.200 a great I love that you're picking from the heart 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.879 to My third pick is heart for me because I 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:42.040 am like a true petty, spiteful bitch. Um. And so 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:47.560 mine is the New York Giants defeating the New England 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.240 Patriots in Super Bowl forty two. The first of the two, 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.480 the first of the two. Um, now I have this third. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.240 This is obviously like such an incredible story and game. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.320 I have a third because if you're a team that 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.879 makes it to the Super Bowl, you are inherently like 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.680 not that much of an underdog, like you're good. Even 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.119 though they were ten and six, they were the first 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.800 wild card team to ever win a Super Bowl, which 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.800 is crazy to me. Um, they were a twelve point underdog, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.000 and the it just the Patriots were going in. They 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.400 were sixteen and no on the season, then obviously undefeated 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.400 in the playoffs. The Giants were like on fumes. Peyton 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.760 was like what it can he do it? Coughlin is 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.320 always red face and screaming. Never seems cool. They were 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:37.320 kind of like the antithesis of the Patriots. And the 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.560 game was pretty lackluster. It goes into the fourth quarter, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.840 it's very low scoring, and then the fourth quarter obviously explodes. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.199 The Patriots go up. Then we have that third and 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.520 five David Tyree catch, and then something I had forgotten 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:56.600 was that Plexico Urus caught the game winner. And I 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.960 actually have like love in my heart for Plexico. I 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.240 know he shot himself in the leg literally, but um, 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:06.160 he was on wife Swap once. He was on wife 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.399 Swap ones and I actually like thought he was really 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.000 cool and cute. Um, so I was like, I was 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.040 happy for him to do that. But yeah, I remember 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.399 watching I was a senior in college and like my 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.320 sorority sisters wanted to watch like the Patriots, we were 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.639 about to watch history. It was about to be the 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:28.439 Dolphins over again, and they they ended something historic and 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.160 no one thought they could. And to me that is 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.360 like that puts them at the top. Yeah. I think 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.960 the Patriots are like underdog makers almost, you know what 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:39.639 I mean. Like I got so mad when they were 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.639 in that Nike commercial, in a Snike commercial about like 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.400 we can do it. It's like they don't inspire anywhere 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:50.440 they are. They are at the Soviet Union. To me, well, 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.240 oh yeah, listeners. Listeners hate when I go in on 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.639 my listeners. I mean, like a commentar has been like, 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.840 why does this woman hate the Patriots so much? But yeah, 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.360 I just it was I don't know, the giants, that's 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.400 just like it was narratives. It's also fun to root 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.840 for an underdog when it's in New York, like they're 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:13.359 just used to the Yankees and beating and beating and beating. Yeah, 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.920 and they kept showing Giselle and then like showing Eli's 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.720 wife like ho home, and it's like, no, she's beautiful, 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:24.119 She's just not a supermodel. Yes. Also that there is 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.159 something so great about every time the Patriots lose the 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.280 high profile game, there's a small white receiver who dropped 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:32.880 the ball in the middle of the field for them 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:39.199 at a key point in the game that's so. And 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.840 then it's like Belichick can't yell at him the same 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.840 way he wants to. You know, Um, I have been 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.879