Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm CJ. Toldano,
Speaker 1: joined by my I'm Megan Gaily. Sorry, I was clearing
Speaker 1: my when you and I didn't know if the people
Speaker 1: so you just jumped right in. No, no no, no, I
Speaker 1: was clearing my throat when you started. Where I look
Speaker 1: a certain way. We're in the laundry room. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's set it up a little bit. It is actually
Speaker 1: we're recording at an all time atout wacky week and
Speaker 1: so it is seven pm on a Saturday. This is
Speaker 1: the first podcast of ours that I've done where I'm
Speaker 1: having a cocktail, so making tiving a cocktail, has sunglasses on,
Speaker 1: has biking shorts, and we're in our laundry nook uh.
Speaker 1: And we're actually joined by our guests for this episode,
Speaker 1: Justin Halpern. Justin, how are you doing? I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me get the credits. I know I
Speaker 1: was gonna I was just like I felt myself rolling
Speaker 1: into the intro, was like, Okay, well, now are you
Speaker 1: going to give them? Yes? Okay, you may know him
Speaker 1: from his TV shows that ship my dad says, Surviving
Speaker 1: Jack and now the very popular Harley Quinn is that
Speaker 1: those are those are great credits. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if all of them are good credits, but well they're
Speaker 1: all good because they all matter. You would be shocked
Speaker 1: the things that people will credit for comedians sometimes. But
Speaker 1: like she was on Comedy Knockout, and it's like, I'm
Speaker 1: good for Comedy knock Out. I'm so thrilled to have
Speaker 1: the trophy, but I don't consider that at the top
Speaker 1: of my resume. It's great, it's it's a literal she
Speaker 1: has the actual tangible credit. It's a trophy that sits
Speaker 1: in our living room. Uh so I like to credit
Speaker 1: that justin how are you? You know, I'm doing pretty
Speaker 1: well considering all things that people are going through. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing great. I
Speaker 1: got a I got a good beard which is even
Speaker 1: more even more Jewish than I looked normal. How big?
Speaker 1: How big are we talking? We talking James Harden level
Speaker 1: or that's my beard measurement at this point. No, my
Speaker 1: beard looks like James Cardon's beard's child. Not that's good though. See, yeah,
Speaker 1: James Harden's beard is actually a little too much for me.
Speaker 1: I'm always like, I wish it was a little less,
Speaker 1: not that he cares what I think. So you describing
Speaker 1: yours that's actually right in my beard wheelhouse. Well, thank you, Magan.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I feel good about it. A father
Speaker 1: of two, what are the ages? So my seven year
Speaker 1: old seven year old boy named Miles and then a
Speaker 1: four year old boy named Toby. Wow. Okay, so seven
Speaker 1: year old Miles, he's you're having to teach him. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny because like, um, so he doesn't zoom. Classes
Speaker 1: every day for his school and then they send us homework.
Speaker 1: And my wife is a rapis and so she's working
Speaker 1: from home too. She's doing you know, teletherapy and and
Speaker 1: she works with a lot of veteran to a PTSD.
Speaker 1: So the other day I go when I get his
Speaker 1: homework out of the printer and I give it to him,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't know how to do this
Speaker 1: this one and normally you can do it all. And
Speaker 1: so I'm looking at it and like I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: do this either. First grade homework. And then and then
Speaker 1: I showed to my I showed it to my wife
Speaker 1: and she's like, this is an assessment to see if
Speaker 1: someone has PTS. I'd taking her work. She's doesn't. He
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I genuinely for a second thought. The school
Speaker 1: had sent it as let it in and see how
Speaker 1: the kids are doing, you know, and all the ones
Speaker 1: that fail, we'll call CPS. It's like they're they're they're
Speaker 1: sleeper self. Yeah, hey kids, we've got a special assignment. Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lift up your shirt and show us if
Speaker 1: you have any wounds. But justin I've actually I haven't
Speaker 1: asked a parent this, just because I don't want them
Speaker 1: to have to relive it in their head. But like,
Speaker 1: of the actual homework of a first grader, are there
Speaker 1: stuff and what specifically has like thrown you off or
Speaker 1: been like, I don't know either, it's been so long,
Speaker 1: you know. The reason I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know how to do this is because
Speaker 1: they do common core. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: know what that is. It's this weird The public school
Speaker 1: system shifted a few years ago and it and it
Speaker 1: does this really weird way of teaching math, and it
Speaker 1: makes no sense that I can't understand it at all,
Speaker 1: so like they won't do seven plus four. It will
Speaker 1: be like seven groups have been associated with four groups,
Speaker 1: but four of those groups are not associated with the
Speaker 1: other three groups. And you're like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: this is. Yeah, all my teachers and they're all like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the shortcut. Here's like the cheat code, Like use
Speaker 1: every single cheat code that I'm gonna give you. It
Speaker 1: was never like let's figure out why these things happen
Speaker 1: or like equal to each other. Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: can get in, I can get into a really philosophical
Speaker 1: discussion about this, but unfortunately, schools have had to pivot
Speaker 1: to teach kids how to pass standardized testing. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that I personally don't believe that's how a
Speaker 1: child's knowledge should be judged. I think it should be
Speaker 1: judged on a lot of different things. I say, leave
Speaker 1: some children behind to do other things, not behind behind,
Speaker 1: but let them play in the dirt. And these kids,
Speaker 1: they don't make the vaccine. We don't all have to
Speaker 1: make the vaccine. Yeah, I was playing the dirt kid
Speaker 1: and I figured it out. It was just some alternative routes.
Speaker 1: And here we are, so I'm glad you're doing so well.
Speaker 1: Um or not, I'm glad you love quarantine. No, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you are doing well. I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: married someone who literally sounds like a saint. Um. You
Speaker 1: are from San Diego, and my hometown of Indianapolis has
Speaker 1: just acquired Some would say I'm not a great gift,
Speaker 1: but we got a gift from San Diego. And you
Speaker 1: are the first person from that town that I've talked
Speaker 1: to since Philip Rivers became a cults player. And I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just looking for maybe like some advice, some hope,
Speaker 1: some negative whatever whatever you want to impart. All right,
Speaker 1: here's what you're right. First off, you're in store for,
Speaker 1: at some point during the season as probably the most
Speaker 1: inopportune time, he's going to endorse the worst senator Congress
Speaker 1: candidate you've ever seen. It'll be like they'll be like
Speaker 1: some congressman who's like, I think that we should force
Speaker 1: everyone to have a child and women should strapped to
Speaker 1: a bed, and Philip Phillip will cut an ad for him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So that's that's that's number one. Number two
Speaker 1: is I hope you like backbreaking? Pick six is because
Speaker 1: you know they're not my favorite, but I definitely uh,
Speaker 1: you know, luck look gave us a little appetizer of
Speaker 1: those we he had some, He had some, but he
Speaker 1: had better politics. I think Phil is just like he's
Speaker 1: always good enough to keep you in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: you'll always you'll always be in the game in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and then he just will never ever make
Speaker 1: the throw you need him to make. You know, like
Speaker 1: you you rooted for Peyton Manning for such a long time,
Speaker 1: Like Peyton makes those throws. Those are the throws. Those
Speaker 1: are like that's the only like if you can keep
Speaker 1: him up right, he can make the throws. But the
Speaker 1: problem is the problem is this is like he just
Speaker 1: he forces ship late in the game, and it's like
Speaker 1: we would all laugh, like my buddies were all wet,
Speaker 1: all text each other watching the games because you could
Speaker 1: almost even like sense when it was coming, like watching
Speaker 1: a rerun of side of like sign fell, where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know what, I know what Kramer does right here,
Speaker 1: Like that's what it is. As a fan, I have
Speaker 1: to say that's almost more frustrating than just being bad
Speaker 1: from the beginning, because was like if the Colts, if
Speaker 1: whatever team you love. If they're down by four team
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter, you're like, I'm good, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a nap. But like, he's the type. It's like,
Speaker 1: it'll be close. You have to watch the you have
Speaker 1: to spend extra time losing. Yeah, that's exactly correct, like Charges.
Speaker 1: I think San Diego. San Diego has not often thought
Speaker 1: of as a tortured sports city because it's a beautiful
Speaker 1: city and after the losses you can go outside and
Speaker 1: you can go to a figure, you can go to
Speaker 1: the you know, mountains or whatever you need to do.
Speaker 1: But San Diego has one of the most tortured fan bases.
Speaker 1: Like the Chargers have been good for a long time,
Speaker 1: but they lose in the most excruciating ways possible for
Speaker 1: as long as possible. And it's still and Philip is
Speaker 1: like a big reason. Why Well, what did you tell
Speaker 1: me earlier, Megan? This morning you said to me, you
Speaker 1: have to pretend to care about Philip rivers and pretend
Speaker 1: to care. Yeah, I I woke up this morning and
Speaker 1: c J gave me a debrief of what I've done
Speaker 1: in my sleep, which is just tell me if you've
Speaker 1: ever experienced this. But like Megan in the middle of
Speaker 1: her sleep just went whoo, and then I told her
Speaker 1: she did this, and then she was able to pinpoint
Speaker 1: what was happening in the dream. In my dream, I
Speaker 1: was at a Cults game and they sacked the quarter
Speaker 1: It was like it was one of those things where
Speaker 1: it was like there weren't specifics of who players were.
Speaker 1: But in the dream, I'm like, I am watching the Cults.
Speaker 1: We were. I was at an away game and the
Speaker 1: quarterback for the other team, the quarterback for the other
Speaker 1: team got sacked and I would and I didn't know
Speaker 1: I would in my sleep. But when he said that,
Speaker 1: I had forgotten the dream. But when he said that,
Speaker 1: I was like, I went to a Cults game. I
Speaker 1: loved it. It's like, your your dreams sound so fun. Well, oh,
Speaker 1: I mean my dreams are actually pretty fun. I would
Speaker 1: say my awake head voices are very dark. You know.
Speaker 1: That's my that's my yang and yang. My inner monologue
Speaker 1: is not doing well. And like, bottom line, I was
Speaker 1: jealous of you that you were like watching a sporting
Speaker 1: event and that you could not predict in any state
Speaker 1: of like just missing it so much. I mean justin
Speaker 1: you're also you're very talented, you know writer and showing her.
Speaker 1: But also I just wanted to talk to or make
Speaker 1: some sort of communication with someone who I played sports with,
Speaker 1: and you came to mind. So like, it's just great
Speaker 1: hearing your voice right now, and the fact that you
Speaker 1: tell us before the phone call it you were playing
Speaker 1: basketball with your son all day, Like, what what's your
Speaker 1: setup over there? So we when I when we bought
Speaker 1: our house, we bought our house about ten years ago,
Speaker 1: justin get in in good for you, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: we we uh we. That's my thing is right after
Speaker 1: a huge crisis, I make a large purchase. Um, anyone
Speaker 1: saying they bought their house ten years ago, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you are screwged like you are so you are Jeff
Speaker 1: Bezos to me in my head right now, please please
Speaker 1: Well I am bald, so you know, um I Well,
Speaker 1: So I put in the first thing I did before
Speaker 1: I had kids. I was like, I said to my wife,
Speaker 1: there was this area in the backyard that had this
Speaker 1: was just like covered in dirt, and I was like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay this and I'm gonna go to this
Speaker 1: company that puts in like a really nice court and
Speaker 1: had really nice hoop, and so it's not a huge area.
Speaker 1: It's basically like you know, a key with five to
Speaker 1: ten five five five to ten feet on either side,
Speaker 1: and then it goes back to about like a little
Speaker 1: behind the free stro line, and then there's a small
Speaker 1: area that's like in college three that I can choose.
Speaker 1: It's kind of an oddly sha area, but it's big enough. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I put it in thinking that I would
Speaker 1: use it all the time, and I do, and I
Speaker 1: do use it, but my kids use it like non
Speaker 1: stuff like my kids. It's so funny too, because like,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't you know, I hadn't put my
Speaker 1: kids in any leagues yet. My older kid, I hadn't
Speaker 1: put him any any league, but he played don Stock.
Speaker 1: He played all the time. But I had no idea
Speaker 1: like how other kids were playing. So I put him
Speaker 1: in this league of six year old and he's dropping
Speaker 1: like thirty game. Oh my god, he's the Brownnie Jaynes
Speaker 1: of the little kids. That's so cute though, that's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's what we do. We played back. Did they
Speaker 1: play there? They played? Probably? I mean my kids play
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half a day. Probably they
Speaker 1: played CJ. Is nodding and making faces like he's a
Speaker 1: pre pubescent boy who just found a girl's gone wild
Speaker 1: VHS Like he's like he's going like, oh yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because over the quarantine, I I panic. I like my
Speaker 1: former panicking was like I have to buy things so
Speaker 1: I can entertain myself during this quarantine. And so far
Speaker 1: I've bought a ping pong table, a Papa shot, and
Speaker 1: then a like just one of those portable hoops for
Speaker 1: the driveway. And then like I think I've told Megan,
Speaker 1: yeah no, we're when we have a son. It's like
Speaker 1: the audacity of me to assume we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: son in that they will play basketball for what to
Speaker 1: validate my purchases now? Is now that I say? I mean,
Speaker 1: and if I said to him, well, what if you
Speaker 1: don't want to play basketball with your daughter? You don't
Speaker 1: want to play basketball with your hypothetical daughter, that girl, dad,
Speaker 1: you don't care about her? Um so CJ. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of Yeah. I just look out.
Speaker 1: I see all these basketball hoops, and I know that's
Speaker 1: where his love really lies. I went in my sleep
Speaker 1: to the Colts. It's like, I don't love you as
Speaker 1: much as them. It's okay, I just missed Justin and
Speaker 1: the guys that Tuesday night. You missed Justin and the
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's a real competition. Beating you in
Speaker 1: in Pig is not he won't even let me play horse,
Speaker 1: not even good enough to do more letters. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: So we picked this topic last night, and then today
Speaker 1: a very like moving Nike commercial came out that like
Speaker 1: kind of stirred me and made me even more excited
Speaker 1: for this. So this is this is not the Cinderella,
Speaker 1: it's not the comeback, but it is the greatest underdog.
Speaker 1: So someone who went into a situation no one thought
Speaker 1: they were the team went into it, no one thought
Speaker 1: they could win. Everything was stacked against them. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think this is kind of like a feel
Speaker 1: good quarantine topic. So it made me happy researching. Now,
Speaker 1: you cried about Paul George, but that's another well I
Speaker 1: cried about a different Yeah, there's you know, tears happened
Speaker 1: about your day? Um, all right, Justin, why don't you
Speaker 1: kick us off with your your third pick? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I I also really loved this topic because I just
Speaker 1: love underdog stories. Um, and I there's so many that
Speaker 1: I loved um, So I picked the ones that I
Speaker 1: had like the most emotional reaction to perfect um and
Speaker 1: one ones that I like either experienced or re experienced
Speaker 1: when I learned about them if I wasn't alive with them. Okay,
Speaker 1: So my number three is that we believe Warriors beating
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks in the first round of the two
Speaker 1: seven uh NBA Playoff. For me, I watched, I watched
Speaker 1: that entire series. I love Baron Davis uh and it
Speaker 1: just felt like one of those things where no one
Speaker 1: expected in the win, but it was the combination of
Speaker 1: no one expected to win and then this like fan
Speaker 1: base that was like all tickets like old school season
Speaker 1: ticket holders. The tickets were cheap because my wife's from
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, so like we would go to games
Speaker 1: and they'd be like nothing, like you could just like
Speaker 1: sometimes you could walk if you were just walking near
Speaker 1: Oracle that you could just somebody would just give you
Speaker 1: tickets for the game. It's like it was crazy. So
Speaker 1: it was this like crowd that was so electric and
Speaker 1: so like insane. This team that played this like really
Speaker 1: weird like Don Nelson style of basketball that like was
Speaker 1: both was both at the same time, like ahead of
Speaker 1: its time and behind this time. So bizarre. And and
Speaker 1: by the way, the other thing people forget about that
Speaker 1: we believe team was that they had to go on
Speaker 1: a huge run just to make the playoffs they finished.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like they were like a forty eight and
Speaker 1: thirty four team. They were like they barely made the
Speaker 1: playoffs and they had to do go on a run
Speaker 1: to do it. And Dirk was the m v P
Speaker 1: no I mean. And and in sports, especially in the
Speaker 1: n b A, you pretty much find out who a
Speaker 1: team is by All Star Break and there that everyone
Speaker 1: pretty much performs to you know, Uh, they're so like that.
Speaker 1: I remember that series being so insane. And then like
Speaker 1: the celebrities they started, Like I was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: know the Warriors had celebrity fans, but I think like
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg at that time, and like I think Jessica
Speaker 1: Alba was like another Yeah, Kate Hudson, uh, And I
Speaker 1: always loved the Warriors and those those uniforms too. We
Speaker 1: we did already have greatest uniforms, but like those are
Speaker 1: some of the sickest NBA uniforms ever. It is wild
Speaker 1: to hear you say that just like in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, the fan base was so different. Like part
Speaker 1: of the reason that the Warriors, I think we're not
Speaker 1: the most fun to root for during their very much dynasty.
Speaker 1: Would you would like look around and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: these are all like executives at Uber and Twitter and Facebook,
Speaker 1: and like it was like when Lebron was in Miami,
Speaker 1: You're just like, everybody looks like they smuggle cocaine. And
Speaker 1: I know that's not nice to say, but like you
Speaker 1: can you've seen the people courtside and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I mean the Warriors minority holder got had to like
Speaker 1: give us to give us shares away because he grabs
Speaker 1: a black player too aggressively. It's just like, wow, in
Speaker 1: thirteen years it went from like they were underdogs to
Speaker 1: a dynasty, which is I mean, obviously extremely cool way
Speaker 1: to go. But the fans and like I wish it
Speaker 1: was still those fans that got to go to the games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's another like really good point is that you know,
Speaker 1: the tech money wasn't interested, Like if you were a
Speaker 1: tech company year Booth was like you bought your box
Speaker 1: for the Giant. You weren't in Oakland, you know, um,
Speaker 1: and so it wasn't. It didn't have any of that
Speaker 1: like smart, smarmie like ship head vibe to it is
Speaker 1: just like all these hardcore Oakland fans and for you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have been to Oakland, Like the
Speaker 1: vibe of that city is very much like don't funk
Speaker 1: with us, We love who we love. It was a
Speaker 1: greaters fans at Warriors games, which to me, I wouldn't prefer.
Speaker 1: Like that sounds so cool and wild. Um, okay, that's
Speaker 1: a great I love that you're picking from the heart
Speaker 1: to My third pick is heart for me because I
Speaker 1: am like a true petty, spiteful bitch. Um. And so
Speaker 1: mine is the New York Giants defeating the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots in Super Bowl forty two. The first of the two,
Speaker 1: the first of the two. Um, now I have this third.
Speaker 1: This is obviously like such an incredible story and game.
Speaker 1: I have a third because if you're a team that
Speaker 1: makes it to the Super Bowl, you are inherently like
Speaker 1: not that much of an underdog, like you're good. Even
Speaker 1: though they were ten and six, they were the first
Speaker 1: wild card team to ever win a Super Bowl, which
Speaker 1: is crazy to me. Um, they were a twelve point underdog,
Speaker 1: and the it just the Patriots were going in. They
Speaker 1: were sixteen and no on the season, then obviously undefeated
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. The Giants were like on fumes. Peyton
Speaker 1: was like what it can he do it? Coughlin is
Speaker 1: always red face and screaming. Never seems cool. They were
Speaker 1: kind of like the antithesis of the Patriots. And the
Speaker 1: game was pretty lackluster. It goes into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: it's very low scoring, and then the fourth quarter obviously explodes.
Speaker 1: The Patriots go up. Then we have that third and
Speaker 1: five David Tyree catch, and then something I had forgotten
Speaker 1: was that Plexico Urus caught the game winner. And I
Speaker 1: actually have like love in my heart for Plexico. I
Speaker 1: know he shot himself in the leg literally, but um,
Speaker 1: he was on wife Swap once. He was on wife
Speaker 1: Swap ones and I actually like thought he was really
Speaker 1: cool and cute. Um, so I was like, I was
Speaker 1: happy for him to do that. But yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: watching I was a senior in college and like my
Speaker 1: sorority sisters wanted to watch like the Patriots, we were
Speaker 1: about to watch history. It was about to be the
Speaker 1: Dolphins over again, and they they ended something historic and
Speaker 1: no one thought they could. And to me that is
Speaker 1: like that puts them at the top. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots are like underdog makers almost, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I got so mad when they were
Speaker 1: in that Nike commercial, in a Snike commercial about like
Speaker 1: we can do it. It's like they don't inspire anywhere
Speaker 1: they are. They are at the Soviet Union. To me, well,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, listeners. Listeners hate when I go in on
Speaker 1: my listeners. I mean, like a commentar has been like,
Speaker 1: why does this woman hate the Patriots so much? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just it was I don't know, the giants, that's
Speaker 1: just like it was narratives. It's also fun to root
Speaker 1: for an underdog when it's in New York, like they're
Speaker 1: just used to the Yankees and beating and beating and beating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they kept showing Giselle and then like showing Eli's
Speaker 1: wife like ho home, and it's like, no, she's beautiful,
Speaker 1: She's just not a supermodel. Yes. Also that there is
Speaker 1: something so great about every time the Patriots lose the
Speaker 1: high profile game, there's a small white receiver who dropped
Speaker 1: the ball in the middle of the field for them
Speaker 1: at a key point in the game that's so. And
Speaker 1: then it's like Belichick can't yell at him the same
Speaker 1: way he wants to. You know, Um, I have been
Speaker 1: at I've been at two of the three most recent
Speaker 1: Patriots super Bowl losses, and I feel like I played
Speaker 1: a part in it. Okay, se al right, my number three,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't that miliar with it, but I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, just in research today, I just forgot about
Speaker 1: this moment and got to like relive it. But Holly
Speaker 1: Home beating Rhonda Rousey uh in two thousand fifteen, like,
Speaker 1: and I've been fascinated with because I see her pop
Speaker 1: up every now and then on w w E. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I've been listening a little bit more
Speaker 1: to like UFC News because it was like the only
Speaker 1: sport that's like, you know, operating at the moment. But
Speaker 1: you forget, like Ron, like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: want UFC, but I know like three names and it's
Speaker 1: maybe only Gregor, uh, Chuck Ladell maybe I've maybe forgot
Speaker 1: his name a year ago. And then uh and Rhonda Rousey,
Speaker 1: who I was like, man, she retired, Uh did some movies,
Speaker 1: but like she retired pretty immediately after she got beat
Speaker 1: she went on a three year reign and then like
Speaker 1: this fight that no one I don't think anyone cared about.
Speaker 1: It was almost like an exit. I remember being like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like just so we can watch Ronda Rouse. Yeah, exact,
Speaker 1: and oh my god, just rewatching it today and I
Speaker 1: made Megan come in the room to rewatch this. But
Speaker 1: like I it was one of the best fights I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Great, I haven't seen that many fights, but like,
Speaker 1: Holly Home just lands these just like kicks, and it
Speaker 1: like you can almost see the want to ever fight
Speaker 1: again leave ron A Rousey's body. It was like and
Speaker 1: then you And then I tried to read like about
Speaker 1: the one more match that she fought after that, and
Speaker 1: they were just like it was over and she ended
Speaker 1: up retiring. And then Holly Home I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she probably doesn't fight that much more because I think
Speaker 1: she was a little bit older. I think she was
Speaker 1: like thirty five when this fight happened. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if football players careers are ending pretty early, like early thirties,
Speaker 1: like I can't imagine a professional fighter, but she just
Speaker 1: won to match back in January in m M. A
Speaker 1: professional and like and still going and Ron Arousey is
Speaker 1: just kind of like having a rocky post career like
Speaker 1: acting like acting. W Yeah, I think she just like
Speaker 1: there's something permanently she's attached. That was one of those
Speaker 1: two where it like made it into like the Today
Speaker 1: Show news like it was. It was we all like
Speaker 1: fell in love with Aranda Rousey and like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this this badass woman who just beats the ship out
Speaker 1: of everybody, and everyone was like yeah, and then she
Speaker 1: got the ship beat out of her and everyone was
Speaker 1: like plaice, So I guess yeah, we just it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was everywhere. One fun fact about Rhonda's
Speaker 1: acting career is that remember she started that like Steven
Speaker 1: Soderberg action movie Do you remember that, which one like
Speaker 1: at the height of her like Rhonda rousing is. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was called, but she was the
Speaker 1: star of it. And but she was so like bad
Speaker 1: that they actually dubbed her entire voice over the whole
Speaker 1: movie with with Laura Sanngia Como. The actress Laurasania Como
Speaker 1: who was in like Just Shoot Me, was rhondrowd of
Speaker 1: these voice for the entire movie. It's sucking bizarre if
Speaker 1: you could ever get a copy of that movie, can
Speaker 1: you and can you tell if they do a pretty
Speaker 1: good job? You can't really tell, but you can, I
Speaker 1: mean you can tell if you know what she sounds
Speaker 1: like and what like Lord Sandi Comb comes like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not round, that's it's like odd for like budgetary reasons,
Speaker 1: like you can get something like that's like a working actress,
Speaker 1: like she's radio right, Like yeah, that's I got. I
Speaker 1: definitely have to watch it. But yeah, like she hasn't
Speaker 1: really had anything notable. And I don't want to like
Speaker 1: make this a good underdog because Rhonda Rousey light his
Speaker 1: career has taken a little fall. But and that's how
Speaker 1: big she was. Um so Holly Holme and that now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and watch some of Holly Holmes fints. Okay,
Speaker 1: I might, I might, I might. Okay, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back and we're back
Speaker 1: with our second picks, justin what do you got? Okay,
Speaker 1: So this one is you know, this is a very
Speaker 1: talked about underdog person. But until I actually like went
Speaker 1: and did the research, I didn't realize like how how
Speaker 1: many setbacks this person has and my number T pick
Speaker 1: is Kurt Warner. And oh wow, because here's the thing
Speaker 1: about Kurt Warner. Like you all everybody knows that like
Speaker 1: he was bagging broken and short hair. Yes this is
Speaker 1: about his short haired um. But the thing that's crazy
Speaker 1: about Kurt Warner is he's hadn't, like really crazy, he
Speaker 1: hasn't really like crazy tragic setbacks during his rise to
Speaker 1: becoming Kurt Warner. And one of the crazy things post
Speaker 1: is like, all right, so he was like the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: for the University of Northern Iowa when in college, but
Speaker 1: he started as the third string quarterback, right, So then
Speaker 1: he didn't even get to start until his senior year.
Speaker 1: And then he did and he's amazing, right, and then
Speaker 1: he goes he he gets cut by a bunch of teams.
Speaker 1: Then he goes into the Arena League. He does amazing
Speaker 1: in his one year at the Arena League, and he
Speaker 1: get he finally gets a tryout for the Bears. And
Speaker 1: this is the craziest ship ever. He gets a tryout
Speaker 1: to the Bears. Right before the tryout, he goes on
Speaker 1: a honeymoon and he gets a spider bite on his arm,
Speaker 1: his throwing arm, and then he can he has to
Speaker 1: miss his tryout. He doesn't get it. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: to go to his tryout, which is like, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like he was just like he was Brad Grocery.
Speaker 1: So then he was in. Then he had all of
Speaker 1: these sets backs. And part of the fact is like
Speaker 1: he has probably like one of the like weaker arms
Speaker 1: in NFL history. I mean, that's why he was never
Speaker 1: really like a prospect or anything. But he just had
Speaker 1: this insane accuracy. And I think the fact that this
Speaker 1: guy not not only did he I mean people remember
Speaker 1: a greater show on turf, but like remember he also
Speaker 1: took the cardinal like you know to the you know,
Speaker 1: like he he everywhere he went, he dominated. It was
Speaker 1: one of those things where like you always hear about players,
Speaker 1: like athletes who say, like, you know, I was shitty
Speaker 1: in practice, but if I can get in the game,
Speaker 1: You're like, no, you're probably kitty everywhere. But he looked
Speaker 1: like one of these guys who like he just didn't
Speaker 1: impress and practice and it made it almost impossible for
Speaker 1: him to get a shot, and in the like one
Speaker 1: shot would get, he would always over perform, and he
Speaker 1: did that like ten times just to be able to
Speaker 1: get to the NFL, and then in the NFL he
Speaker 1: continued to do it. But I'm always amazed at these
Speaker 1: guys who, like, you have eight seconds to prove your
Speaker 1: something and then they do it and they keep doing it.
Speaker 1: And so for for me, I just I didn't realize
Speaker 1: like how detailed is story was, and that was It's
Speaker 1: really remarkable. I also think it says something like, I
Speaker 1: know they always talk about the curse of the Cubs,
Speaker 1: but the Bears inability to get a quarterback and then
Speaker 1: hearing this, it's like, I think that's a like somebody
Speaker 1: put a curse on the Bears quarterbacks because that is
Speaker 1: one of the most like failed positions on a team
Speaker 1: of all times. Like that they keep they always talk
Speaker 1: about like Mahomes. It's like you could have Kurt Warner too.
Speaker 1: He just he got in Hawaii. No Nick Foles is
Speaker 1: laughed and he's wanted super Bowl. It's yeah, their their
Speaker 1: history is not what you're talking about. The Cardinals too,
Speaker 1: For some reason, the Cardinals are actual, Like I truly
Speaker 1: forget about my favorite athlete human being of all time
Speaker 1: was on the Cardinals at one point. I love Bruce Arians.
Speaker 1: I watched all or nothing the whole season, and I
Speaker 1: forget that they are a football team every time they
Speaker 1: Like if someone were like, name all the football teams,
Speaker 1: I would get through all of them. I'd say the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks last, and then I'd be like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I forgot what is it just I have
Speaker 1: such a generic presence to them. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. Sometimes it is tough these
Speaker 1: teams that are that also like they're a baseball team.
Speaker 1: Like when you said the Giants, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's teams that have the name in multiple sports. I
Speaker 1: tend to be like, we gotta pick one and move
Speaker 1: forward with that. Psyche. Oh that my brain is simple
Speaker 1: and handle complex things. Okay, I love I love that
Speaker 1: you picked someone, um who is like good to root for,
Speaker 1: because my next pick is someone who is very hard
Speaker 1: to root for, and it is no, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: o J beating the murder. I actually think it's one
Speaker 1: of the greatest center dabs of all time. Like we
Speaker 1: all were like, he's he's guilty, right, I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: So my second pick is John Daily winning the n
Speaker 1: p g A championship. Yeah, I mean I know him
Speaker 1: as a character. I guess it seems obscure to you guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm such a homer. And I was like so
Speaker 1: proud of myself that I didn't pick anything Indianapolis. And
Speaker 1: then as I was like reading about this, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was in Indianapolis. It was at Crooked Stick, a
Speaker 1: golf course that I once played so terribly at my
Speaker 1: dad like left the match. Um, But so this is
Speaker 1: the story and I love it a lot. Uh. Nick
Speaker 1: Price golfer, he had to withdraw from the PGA Championship
Speaker 1: because he was going to miss the birth of his
Speaker 1: first child, so he leaves. They go to the first
Speaker 1: eight alternates on the list. None of them can make
Speaker 1: it to Indianapolis in time. John Daily is the ninth
Speaker 1: and final alternate. He drives through the night makes it
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. He had never seen the course. Nick Price's caddy,
Speaker 1: whose name is Squeaky Midlands. I wrote it down just
Speaker 1: because I like his caddy had stayed like it was
Speaker 1: that fast. He was still there and he had like
Speaker 1: walked to the course, so he stayed on to be
Speaker 1: his caddy. Um. John Daily was a rookie. No one
Speaker 1: knew who he was. Ninth alternate goes on and wins
Speaker 1: a major and then went on to become the p
Speaker 1: G as nine of the year. He won um the
Speaker 1: Open Championship in He's actually the only golfer to win
Speaker 1: two majors to never be asked to be on the
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup. And that's because, Yeah, he's a bit of
Speaker 1: a he's a bit of a goof. That's probably putting
Speaker 1: it nicer than he deserves. He's like, really, he's like,
Speaker 1: he drinks on the course, he cusses. He's kind of
Speaker 1: a Tanya Harding of golf. Like he has a blue
Speaker 1: collar background. That's what I was going to ask. Do
Speaker 1: you think he's the underdog or his heart that with
Speaker 1: stands all that coke? He doesn't do. He doesn't do. No,
Speaker 1: he actually happens just when he said drive to the night.
Speaker 1: I'm like he had a quote at one or like
Speaker 1: a controversy at one point where he was like, all
Speaker 1: the they're all on coke. I'm an alcoholic. I'm maybe
Speaker 1: an alcoholic, but you test them for coke. I'm the
Speaker 1: cleanest guy on here, and it's like, Okay, that's not good.
Speaker 1: These are some of my favorite career highlights. He's had um.
Speaker 1: He hit six balls in a row into a water
Speaker 1: hazard and scored an eighteen on a part five in
Speaker 1: a professional tournament. He was arrested outside of a Hooters.
Speaker 1: He's released two He's released two musical albums, and sang
Speaker 1: backup vocals on a kid rock song. Yeah, but is
Speaker 1: he a registered Republican? Oh? You bet your ask him
Speaker 1: and Philip like the same guy. Yeah. I don't like love.
Speaker 1: I don't love John Daily, who calls himself long John Um.
Speaker 1: But to be just kind of like this, like quote
Speaker 1: unquote poor loser that no one knew, and to drive
Speaker 1: through the night and show up at a major tournament
Speaker 1: and win it, that's a little happy Gilmar. Yeah, oh absolutely,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I I would venture to guess that John
Speaker 1: Daily isn't taking social distancing serious. Absolutely, spend to a
Speaker 1: protest on the way. Yeah, there's like the McDonald's on
Speaker 1: the other side of the crowd. He's like, oh, I'll
Speaker 1: shake some hands, all fist bump and then yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean like when I play when I get drunk and
Speaker 1: high and we're around friends, and like when I play
Speaker 1: YouTube DJ, I love playing. I don't know who the
Speaker 1: interviews with like Graham white guy or whatever on Fox Sports.
Speaker 1: But like there's an interview where he says he drinks
Speaker 1: twenty diet cokes a day and eats McDonald's fifteen times
Speaker 1: a week. This is he's your hero. I mean in
Speaker 1: that way, yes, he's my hero. Like he has like
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris levels of of doing bad to your body.
Speaker 1: There used to be a golfer who and I cannot
Speaker 1: remember him, and he was um South American and he
Speaker 1: would smoke cigarettes and this is up until like five
Speaker 1: years ago, just smoking cigarettes on the course. And it
Speaker 1: kind of was like no one got mad at him
Speaker 1: the way that they got mad at John Dailey because
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, he's foreign, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: just like like it was. It was almost worse for
Speaker 1: John Daily that he was blonde, because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't get well, no, he's a piece of ship. Actually,
Speaker 1: I take it back, never mind cigarettes, dog, You're right,
Speaker 1: all right. Well for my second pick, we'll make this
Speaker 1: feel this will be a little bit feel good, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, an actual underdog. But my pick is Shokeem Griffin.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys he shot in
Speaker 1: place with the Seahawks. He's a linebacker and usually you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big football fan until the last few years,
Speaker 1: but when I was working in the NFL really funny way, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't a big football fan until I
Speaker 1: worked at the NFL. So working in the NFL is
Speaker 1: a great way to familiarize yourself with the sport. And
Speaker 1: you're just searching and searching for the actual good natured stories.
Speaker 1: And I actually chuck Keem Griffin's highlights started servicing and
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this guys awesome. And then when
Speaker 1: Combine rolled around and I was looking at the roster
Speaker 1: and he wasn't in there despite getting defensive m VP.
Speaker 1: And actually, let me say this, so people say he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a hand, but what he has is that
Speaker 1: it's I think it's called an amniotic band syndrome that
Speaker 1: seems like I was doing to screw up the Howard
Speaker 1: pronounced it, but which means that you don't fully develop
Speaker 1: fingers on your hand. And he has a twin brother.
Speaker 1: They went to UCF and both played for the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: But originally he wasn't He had one defensive m v
Speaker 1: P of his for his conference and then wasn't invited
Speaker 1: the Combine, so you know, just social media had such
Speaker 1: a backlash on them. They ended up inviting him after
Speaker 1: someone dropped out and he ended up killed. He was
Speaker 1: it was like, and I hated going to the combine
Speaker 1: and India, it was great to visit your family. I
Speaker 1: just want to set up my emotions. It's like it
Speaker 1: was just really boring work and you're sitting there hours
Speaker 1: watching just the these dudes bench press and then you
Speaker 1: remember that this this kid wasn't invited the camp and
Speaker 1: he had twenty bench press twenty refs in bench press,
Speaker 1: and then he broke the record in the Ford. He
Speaker 1: got four point three eight fastest record for a linebacker
Speaker 1: since they started recording stats. Uh. And then he end
Speaker 1: up getting drafted to the Seahawks and he started in
Speaker 1: his first game ever and is still on is still
Speaker 1: playing for the Seahawks. Yeah, I love him, like line
Speaker 1: becker him. And there's that commercial where they his brother
Speaker 1: built like a special bench press. No, they are. They
Speaker 1: are truly one of the most feel good stories. It's
Speaker 1: like them. And then Dominique Muciano and her long lost
Speaker 1: Romanian sister that doesn't have legs, whose parents abandoned her.
Speaker 1: They're yeah, they're they're on the Mount rushmore a feel
Speaker 1: good sports stories. It's insane that he can play in
Speaker 1: the NFL because I'll wrestle with my kids and if
Speaker 1: I had one left hand, I lose to my seven
Speaker 1: year old. Yeah. I mean, it's also an incredible blessing
Speaker 1: that he is kind of of amazing at the position
Speaker 1: that requires you to not really like you catch when yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: when you see defensive ends that like break their hands,
Speaker 1: they literally just wrap it up and club people with it,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that actually seems better like that,
Speaker 1: that seems like a weapon. So he he has like
Speaker 1: the right body for it obviously, the right temperament and drive,
Speaker 1: and that his brother, it's his twin brother, and their
Speaker 1: parents are so amazing and lovely. They're just they're such
Speaker 1: a great family. I love them. They make the NFL
Speaker 1: seem good. Those are those good stories. C J. It
Speaker 1: felt like you wanted to talk more about how boring
Speaker 1: Indianapolis was that um, maybe my my final pick. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you really hated the combine, but you weren't even
Speaker 1: you were like in a ballroom that was like yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're you were like sitting in an office room.
Speaker 1: You're not like sitting out there watching them run. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I am, uh okay, Well, then fucking get excited and
Speaker 1: I did, and then I was so excited that I
Speaker 1: went back to the NBA afterwards. But how how much
Speaker 1: weight did you gain at the combine? At the combine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was so upset with myself afterwards. I like gon
Speaker 1: on scale and I was like, I have the number
Speaker 1: amount that it affected my body or my my just
Speaker 1: it was just I did not enjoy. That was the
Speaker 1: backbreaker for that job for me. Anyways, I don't want
Speaker 1: to revisit that. Um, all right, we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: break when we're right back with our final picks and
Speaker 1: we're back in justin just so you know how we
Speaker 1: do it. Since you are a guest, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: you be the final person who finally you're a big finale,
Speaker 1: so make sure that pick is good. Feel free to
Speaker 1: sub anything out, Megan, who do you got for your
Speaker 1: number one pick? Okay, so this is a team. This
Speaker 1: coined phrases. I was not alive, but it has been
Speaker 1: just not even shoved down our throats. It's just something
Speaker 1: I feel like as Americans, we know about and that
Speaker 1: is the nineteen eighty miracle on ice. Does that feel?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I saw the movie there. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, there's a thirty for thirty, there's
Speaker 1: an HBO doc, there's a Walt Disney film, and there
Speaker 1: was a made for TV movie. There's been four films
Speaker 1: made about this. Um. It was the nineteen eighty It
Speaker 1: wasn't even the gold medal game. It was like it
Speaker 1: was metal contention, but it was a round robin and
Speaker 1: the United States was playing the Soviet Union. The USSR
Speaker 1: had won five of the six last gold medals in hockey.
Speaker 1: I mean they were heavily, heavily favored. The US team
Speaker 1: was like college players. There were only four players on
Speaker 1: the U S team that had any NHL experience. It's
Speaker 1: with this is not like a dream team situation American sport. Well, no,
Speaker 1: but they could take NHL. That thats just not how
Speaker 1: the system was back then. They were like, we'll just
Speaker 1: take our best collegiate players and it would be Christian Late.
Speaker 1: It's Christian Late Nurse going up against the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they were the youngest team in the tournament.
Speaker 1: They were playing very, very well, and then they get
Speaker 1: to this game that they were definitely going to lose.
Speaker 1: They end up winning for three l Michael's yells like
Speaker 1: I believe in miracles, and then what's crazy? They had
Speaker 1: to go on to play another game. They had to
Speaker 1: beat Finland in the next game to actually win the
Speaker 1: gold medal. There's been also documentaries about the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: side of this, and they were so upset as a
Speaker 1: team they ended up winning the silver. They didn't even
Speaker 1: send in their medals to be engraved. Like their coach,
Speaker 1: I guess was like a full crazy person, like a psychopath.
Speaker 1: If some of these nineteen eighty Soviet Union players took
Speaker 1: that PTSD tests, I do not think they would pass
Speaker 1: um they they and all of them went on to
Speaker 1: be like really really famous NHL players and they've come
Speaker 1: to terms with it. But yeah, it was like cold
Speaker 1: rory and it was in American It was these like young, hot,
Speaker 1: cool guys and and they won and it felt it
Speaker 1: just felt like why wasn't a life? But it seems
Speaker 1: like it felt like it was bigger than just hockey,
Speaker 1: Like it was like we are America. No, that's like
Speaker 1: the original sports miracle, like for the moments called miracle, right,
Speaker 1: miracle on ice. The movie is called miracle. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: like so many sports movies could have been called miracle,
Speaker 1: but that gets to be it. I think they think
Speaker 1: it's a true miracle. Is there is there? Obviously maybe
Speaker 1: some xenophobia tied into that, sure, um, But then yeah,
Speaker 1: after was a good story after this, Um, the U
Speaker 1: S team did not go on to um beat the
Speaker 1: Soviet team for over a decade, Like they won that
Speaker 1: one game and then the team was so good they
Speaker 1: could not do it again. But gold medal. I don't
Speaker 1: the men's name. You know, they're cute in America as
Speaker 1: a country, as an underdog, that's just so good to
Speaker 1: bring up, you know, well, obviously different than nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: but I'm very happy for those men. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it feels very much part of like the cultural
Speaker 1: sports lexicon. Alright, Uh my number one pick, if you're
Speaker 1: going to pick America, I don't know. One honorable mention,
Speaker 1: and that was Appalachian State beating Michigan. I like remember that.
Speaker 1: It was so funny to me, um, and I like Michigan.
Speaker 1: I just it was so cute and funny and Appalachian State,
Speaker 1: we all like can go to that place and know
Speaker 1: what that means. I don't really remember that. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: when you hear Appalachian State, you know what the people
Speaker 1: are saying. They're not like talking about pipes on front porches.
Speaker 1: They're talking about beating Michigan pipes on front. When I
Speaker 1: think of Appalachia, I think of people playing fiddles and rocking. Oh.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like, was there a pipe situation?
Speaker 1: But just like ning, I was thinking more like double dragon. Um,
Speaker 1: but that was the great Smoky's I am getting my
Speaker 1: mountains confused. Okay, okay, No one never said let's go
Speaker 1: to Appalachia. No, no, unless it's like an actual kidnapper, yeah,
Speaker 1: or horror movie. Yeah. Alright. My number one pick to
Speaker 1: no surprise Jeremy Lynn and why it is the biggest
Speaker 1: sports moment to me personally, No zero Asian representation really
Speaker 1: in any popular sport. And then it was in basketball.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I'm you know, obviously, people like,
Speaker 1: oh he c J loves basketball. He's Asians with Jeremy,
Speaker 1: of course, But the thing is, I, for some reason
Speaker 1: got hat tipped to Jerem mel In like a week
Speaker 1: before it happened, Like no one knew who he was
Speaker 1: sort of like Asian redde. Yeah, I'm on Asian basketball Redde.
Speaker 1: But what happened was so he went he played for Harvard,
Speaker 1: went undrafted, got bounced on a bunch of different teams,
Speaker 1: and then he got sent to the G League. He
Speaker 1: played for my hometown's G League basketball team, the Erie BayHawks,
Speaker 1: and I remember just like following our my hometown's G
Speaker 1: league team as a joke, like ironic and just seeing
Speaker 1: the different players that would end up there and then
Speaker 1: ultimately quit basketball. Then I remember the picture of like
Speaker 1: Jeremy Land signs with the Erie bay Hawks, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: the only other Asian guy to go through Erie. And
Speaker 1: then it cut to a week later he's on the
Speaker 1: next ten day contract, and I was like, oh, keep
Speaker 1: a slight little, you know, my radar on the next
Speaker 1: and see if anything happens. Nothing happened until that like
Speaker 1: last game, then the last game of the ten day contract,
Speaker 1: and he blew up against the Jazz and then you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have to, you know, tell you guys about
Speaker 1: Lyns sanity, but it was insane. I cried during the
Speaker 1: the the game against the Lakers because I remember like
Speaker 1: he had gone on the street. Lind sanity was the
Speaker 1: biggest thing in sports in the wind pop culture and
Speaker 1: and this is the perfect Kobe thing. But I remember
Speaker 1: the Lakers were about to play the Knicks and they
Speaker 1: asked Kobe, what do you think of this Jeremy Lynd guy,
Speaker 1: And Kobe's like, I don't know who you're talking about,
Speaker 1: and just completely played dumb, you know, Mamba mentality. However
Speaker 1: weird that was. And then Jeremy Lynn drops thirty eight
Speaker 1: in the garden against Kobe. I think he got like
Speaker 1: the winning buckets and like the last quarter of that.
Speaker 1: I just rewatched that and I saw like a little baby,
Speaker 1: and you know the thing is, it didn't like stop
Speaker 1: there like the you know, he ended up on like
Speaker 1: four different teams and now is playing for the Beijing
Speaker 1: Ducks uh and made the All Star team. And it's
Speaker 1: just like no other Asian guard, especially like a guard
Speaker 1: UH is like rare. It's so one cool thing that
Speaker 1: I have. Uh So, when I was going to go
Speaker 1: to New York for work, and I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I love the NBA so much, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: buy a ticket to a Knicks game. And so I
Speaker 1: bought it. A few a few months ahead of time.
Speaker 1: So cut too. I'm in New York and Lyn sanity
Speaker 1: is at its peak, won the games in a row.
Speaker 1: I'm there at the night. I'm there at the ninth
Speaker 1: game against the Hornets. People are offering to buy my
Speaker 1: tickets as I walk in for like crazy amounts of money.
Speaker 1: But Jeremy Lynn hadn't lost yet on the Knicks, and
Speaker 1: so I go to the game with Paul McCartney's there
Speaker 1: like all kinds of crazy everything. And I got to
Speaker 1: see a game in Madison Square Garden that was like
Speaker 1: the most electric Madison Square Garden, which is the method
Speaker 1: of basketball gifts. And I remember feeling like overwhelmed being there,
Speaker 1: just like this guy's story, it's so fucking amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm you knew in the moment too, because sometimes in
Speaker 1: sports you're like at something and then later it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was iconic, but like at the moment you're just
Speaker 1: having fun. But to go into it and like it's
Speaker 1: already deemed insanity and then for him to live up
Speaker 1: to it. How No, c J, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about his corn rows? I can't defend I will never
Speaker 1: defend that. Yeah, when he started, did you also like
Speaker 1: a child. I was like, Jeremy, why are you tearing this?
Speaker 1: We built this up? He's in Wow, I can't believe.
Speaker 1: And I also can't defend his sketch comedy either. He
Speaker 1: was doing some some sketches. He hired a whole social
Speaker 1: media team, but well, whose sketch comedy can you defend?
Speaker 1: You know? Like that's okay, We're all, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of experiment. We all are doing front facing videos
Speaker 1: that maybe people don't like. Um, but I just didn't
Speaker 1: know we meant that much to you. Yeah, until the
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen calves being a war game seven like
Speaker 1: those are that probably the only two things that like
Speaker 1: will make me sob up watching sports wise, did your
Speaker 1: mom know who he was? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: when my mom knows, that's when you know it's a
Speaker 1: huge sport. And then she was like, he went to Harvard.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you? It's like, Jeremy, yeah, it doesn't solve
Speaker 1: the problem of like, hey, mom, I followed basketball my
Speaker 1: whole life and now I'm doing something. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: he went to Harvard too. And that's how my parents
Speaker 1: would explain things like you can become a comedian but
Speaker 1: first you have to become a doctor. And it's just like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Jeremy was doing that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that, Jeremy Lynn. And Jeremy Lynn became an NBA
Speaker 1: player but still hit all the Asian stereo day. Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: not helping us. Jeremy to Harvard makes an inappropriate hair choice,
Speaker 1: you know, alright, justin give us your number one pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this number one pick. I was three years old
Speaker 1: when this happened. I don't remember it. But but again,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge basketball fan, and I'm also a huge
Speaker 1: college basketball fan, and I just remember, you know, you
Speaker 1: can't watch an nt double A tournament without seeing these highlights.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually in the like montage they play
Speaker 1: at the end um. And so I went my research
Speaker 1: and my number one pick is the A B three
Speaker 1: NC State wolf Pack winning the national championship against against
Speaker 1: the Chimala Juan and Clyde Drexler in Houston. And the
Speaker 1: reason why I picked them is because I went through
Speaker 1: and I looked at their tournament run and it's actually
Speaker 1: insane that they got there. So they in the first round,
Speaker 1: there's sixty They played pepper Dine. They win by two
Speaker 1: in double overtime against pepper Dine. That's the first round,
Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, exactly like the pepper Powerhouse. Pepperdine. The
Speaker 1: second round, second round they beat UNLV seventy one to seventy.
Speaker 1: The third round they take care of Utah pretty well.
Speaker 1: But then the next round against the lead eight versus Virginia,
Speaker 1: they win sixty three sixty two. So it's like squeaking
Speaker 1: by every single Remember this is like the Jimmy Valvano team. Um,
Speaker 1: then they beat Georgia sixty sixty, but then I went
Speaker 1: then they end up beating They end up beating Houston
Speaker 1: in that famous shot where it's a miss three at
Speaker 1: air balls and an nc State player grabs it and
Speaker 1: dunks it in the game. But the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: is that Houston team. It had a team and Clyde Dressler,
Speaker 1: which are too arguably two top fifty NBA player had
Speaker 1: team's top twenty and and and Dressler top fifty of
Speaker 1: all times in college. They're not like fresh they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're like the best players on the team. NC
Speaker 1: State has one player who goes on to play in
Speaker 1: the NBA, Thorol Bailey. But the rest of the team.
Speaker 1: The rest of the team is a tiny They don't
Speaker 1: have anyone who could like a card Hakim in the post.
Speaker 1: They have no one who can match up with Drexler.
Speaker 1: They decided to just knuck up the game because Houston
Speaker 1: is just putting up like every game, Houston's putting up
Speaker 1: just a ton of points in college. So as you
Speaker 1: stay and Valvedo just decided to like do the only
Speaker 1: thing they can do, which is like basically what Brad
Speaker 1: seasons they would Butler, you know, twenty five years later,
Speaker 1: which is like we're just going to turn this floor
Speaker 1: into mud and no one's going to score. And so
Speaker 1: they did that, and they kept Hakim Elaje one, who
Speaker 1: was like probably top five center of all times. Yeah
Speaker 1: he was like he went number one in the Jordan's draft,
Speaker 1: like and no one has mad ever mad about that either,
Speaker 1: because Kim and like Drexler at Houston team were like
Speaker 1: the Sementi three win Warriors. They were the most like
Speaker 1: for sure thing ever and yeah, that's how crazy good
Speaker 1: they were. And yeah, yeah you have to like, I know,
Speaker 1: Jimmy V. You know, Jimmy V is is my entry
Speaker 1: into them, and Jimmy V is all iconic and is
Speaker 1: just this larger than life because he's not here anymore,
Speaker 1: and he's momorialized so beautifully and ESPN like loves him
Speaker 1: and his foundation, and I really think that that like
Speaker 1: carries that spirit and underdogness through Like if they hadn't
Speaker 1: won that, I don't know if the Jimmy V Foundation
Speaker 1: raises as much, you know, like that. It's just they're
Speaker 1: they're so tied together, Like oh my god. When yeah,
Speaker 1: I was recently reading the ESPN book and then when
Speaker 1: it got to him accepting that SPS Award, I was
Speaker 1: sobbing reading the book and that never happens to me,
Speaker 1: Like I just I love him. Yeah, those but like
Speaker 1: I remember even just like even for a while, ESPN
Speaker 1: would just run that one clip of him giving us
Speaker 1: like over and over, and like I've seen that. I've
Speaker 1: seen that so many times, and every time I get
Speaker 1: like a total like his chunk in my throat, and
Speaker 1: I like in that image of him running onto the court,
Speaker 1: that like it's so rare. It's so rare you get
Speaker 1: to see a coach exhibit like pure ecstasy, like you
Speaker 1: get it's like what sports can do that no other
Speaker 1: thing in the world can do and like to be
Speaker 1: able to see it. In the end of that game,
Speaker 1: he's running out onto the court and arms are are
Speaker 1: like what He's just looking for anyone to hug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a moment of like pure joy because you
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at him. He's like, there's no
Speaker 1: way we should have won this game or even been here,
Speaker 1: and he did it, and it's it's just like I
Speaker 1: get chills just like watching it. I looked, so I
Speaker 1: watched the last like five minutes of it on YouTube
Speaker 1: to day before I did this, and it's it's it's
Speaker 1: so crazy, like everyone is so tense and you can
Speaker 1: see he's just like, why are we not winning? This?
Speaker 1: Can't they can't figure it out. So rarely I think
Speaker 1: of March Madness as the number one like upset Cinderette,
Speaker 1: Like that's what it is. And so rarely do those
Speaker 1: team win, Like even the Butler, they make it to
Speaker 1: the national Championship, but they don't win. The Sister Jean
Speaker 1: Sister Jean is is one of my honorable mentions too,
Speaker 1: and it's like so fun, but it's usually sweet sixteen
Speaker 1: Elite A very rarely is it National Championship and almost
Speaker 1: never is it then winning. Yeah, you're always like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a nice story. Okay, Duke's gonna win that, you know.
Speaker 1: I like these little tiny stories. Anyways, let's see North
Speaker 1: Carolina wrap this thing up. Yeah, totally. It's a really
Speaker 1: good one. I had a lot of like emotional impact.
Speaker 1: And I remember, like the other thing about it is
Speaker 1: like my dad's not a huge college basketball fan, but
Speaker 1: he's a huge sports fan, and like I remember even
Speaker 1: being little and hearing him talk about it, and in fact,
Speaker 1: it's just like one of those moments that like permeates.
Speaker 1: It's like you were saying, like your mom knew about
Speaker 1: Jeremy Lynn. Like I love those sports moments where they
Speaker 1: like they puncture through the sports bubble and they like
Speaker 1: leak out into the regular world and all the people
Speaker 1: who don't even give a shit about sports are like
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah. I'm mean, that's what the last
Speaker 1: dance for the last five weeks. Like friends who don't
Speaker 1: watch sports and they're watching and like, yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: big of a deal they were. Um, And I love
Speaker 1: when when sports got I love when new sports are
Speaker 1: doing that, not recycling the nineties bolls for Paup culture. Now, hey,
Speaker 1: justin thank you so much for joining us. Um is
Speaker 1: there anything you want to plug? You have two books,
Speaker 1: you have Harley Quinn? What else where else can we
Speaker 1: find you what you want? Harley Quinn on SI by
Speaker 1: on demand I think, and then on the DC Universe
Speaker 1: app that no one has but trial. Yeah, me and
Speaker 1: me and h wit split it because we yeah for
Speaker 1: the for Harley Quinn and for that Batman animated series
Speaker 1: from the nineties. Yeah, it's like on Twitter, I always
Speaker 1: see Harley Quinn like memes happening now like that. This
Speaker 1: is a sign of a for real good show when
Speaker 1: it's being used for memes. I think that's like what
Speaker 1: you aspired to now these days. Oh, absolutely, Like I
Speaker 1: want some woman who is who someone to make fun
Speaker 1: of someone else using a meme for my show. That
Speaker 1: is basically to me, the best to confinsive. Actually, I
Speaker 1: do want to ask you too, with the announcement of
Speaker 1: the Snyder Cut releasing, like, has that where you like, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's awesome because now it's all of your screenshots in
Speaker 1: your show being used to talk about that that. I
Speaker 1: seriously was It's funny like when that when the Snyder
Speaker 1: Cut got released because we had done a Snyder Cut
Speaker 1: like joke, a little like seen making fun of people
Speaker 1: asking for the Snyder Cut to be released in our show.
Speaker 1: And we have this like very stereotypical like neck dirty
Speaker 1: guy wearing a release of Snyder Cut show a shirt
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then that this became like he became
Speaker 1: the representative for people talking about the Snyder Cut. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is all I could ask Megan. I'll
Speaker 1: explain to you the whole Snyder Cut thing after this,
Speaker 1: and you'll be like, I don't care. No, I saw
Speaker 1: people talking about it. I definitely know what's kind of happening.
Speaker 1: But it's yeah. I mean we went to see what
Speaker 1: we went to see Avengers, and I was like, where's
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman? And C was like, she's not coming. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this was false advertising, all right,
Speaker 1: so check that out. And Megan, where can we find you?
Speaker 1: You can find me in our house. Um, And then yeah,
Speaker 1: Megan Gaily on Twitter beating me at Ping Pong and
Speaker 1: losing in Papa shot to me, yeah, I'm not very
Speaker 1: good and you can find me at at C J Toldonald.
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