1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. He's Trevor Lawrence, the Jags quarterback, joining us 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: on behalf of Gatorade. To learn more about the Gatorade 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Player of the Year program, visit Player of the Year 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: dot Gatorade dot com or check out Gatorade p o 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Y on YouTube. As we make way for the first 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: first overall pick of the Jags. Trevor Lawrence joining us 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: on the program. You know, I was wondering you just 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: got there. How difficult is it to try to remember 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: everybody's name? It's hard. Yeah, I'm trying trying to do 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: that right now. I've learned a lot of a lot 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: of the guys and a lot of the whole just buildings, 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: names of all the people's staff and everyone. That's something 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: that's important to me. So it's been hard. It's like 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: going to, you know, your first day of school or 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: something in China and river one's name. Okay, but how 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: do you fool people if you don't know their names? 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: What's your go to? Well? I mean, honestly, people that 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm even really close with, I'm not calling him by 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: name that much anyway. So it's always like, what's up 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: man already kind of talk like that or what's up 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: dude that, So it doesn't really sound any different anyways, 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: which is which is good. But yeah, I definitely don't 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: like that feeling. I'm not knowing the name. What was 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: your second best sport? Second best sport? Probably basketball? I 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: mean I wasn't great, I was okay, but I really 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: really liked playing basketball. That was the one other sport 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that I actually played kind of like just for fun 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: when I wasn't playing football. So I've always really really 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: loved playing basketball. But you're tall, You're expected to be good. Yeah, 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm okay. I could shoot a little bit. I'm one 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: of those guys that was tall but really like to 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: shoot and try to handle the ball. Wasn't very good 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: at it, but that's like what I wanted to do. 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get in there and get rebounds. 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Who plays basketball the way you played in high school? 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: It's a hard question. Nobody. Probably I'd be playing basketball. 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I played like any Well, well, no, I had a 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: similar game like that guy you know, just shot out 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: a tall guy like Dirk Dubitski. Like I guess that's 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: a lofty comparison. So I guess that you could use that. 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Who's the defender that you look forward to playing against? Um? 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: To be honest, I haven't really mean there's so many 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: great ones. I haven't really been focused on one guy 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: from a specific team that I'm looking forward to play against. 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: I've been trying to ski this learning curve and prepare 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: us as well as I can to be ready. So 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I haven't even really thought about it. But there's a 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: there's a ton of good ones, so it's gonna be fun. So, UM, 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: I know we're playing in LA this year, so there's 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of guys from each 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: team that are's gonna be a fun challenge. What about 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: former team to now get a chance to hit you? Oh, 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: that's one. That was the first one I should have said. 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: I actually talked to Christian Wilkins, who play We played 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in London, so I have to take him 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: out of dinner before we play. That's a veteran move 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: on your part there. Yeah, he wasn't going for it, 59 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: so we'll see. When did you start to think that 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you could be an NFL quarterback? Like what age? Yeah? 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, I think probably sometime in high 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: school that became more realistic and something I really was 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: thinking more about accomplishing as a kid, though I would 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: be the first to say it wasn't really like a 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: dream of mine necessarily. I don't even think I went 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: that far. It was more I just want to be 67 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: a college quarterback. That was what I grew up watching, 68 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't watch as much NFL as I did college, 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: so that was kind of always my dream was I 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: want to go to a big, big school and play quarterback. 71 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: And then as I got older and that became Okay, 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. That's kind of the next step, 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and then it's looking forward, like, let's see how far 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: we can take this. So probably sometime in high school, sophomore, freshman, 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: sophomore year. I'm not really sure who's funny or Urban 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Meyer or Devo. It depends what kind of sense of 77 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: humor you are. Um, I think coach coach Sweeney. Coach 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: Sweeney is funnier to laugh at, for sure. Yeah, then 79 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Coach Meyer. Coach Sweeney's just goofy um. Coach Coach Meyer 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: is a little bit more dry sense of humor, but 81 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: he's he's awesome. So both are different but similar in 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: the way they lead, and it's been it's been interesting 83 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: getting to see that um different personalities, but I really 84 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: have a ton of respect and enjoy being around both 85 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: of them. He's Trevor Lawrence, the Jags quarterback. Um, what 86 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: happened on Draft night where you didn't have your phone on? 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: The Jags are in the call? No I had, I 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: had it on. I don't know what happened. Um, I 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: didn't get the calls. So my place in Clemson is 90 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: the services terrible. I'm out kind of in the woods, 91 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: far out there, so I guess they just didn't get 92 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: to me because I was sitting there waiting on them. 93 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: Kind of got nervous there for a second. Did you 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: get nervous at all? I mean, did you did you 95 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: start to think, oh my gosh, you know, maybe they're 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: taking Zach Wilson. No, No, really, I was. I didn't. 97 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: I didn't really, I didn't really sweat it too much, 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: but I was. I didn't know that they tried to 99 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: call me until I got there the next day when 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: I was visiting, and they were like, dude, I guess 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: we either had the wrong number or whatever. They called 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: me from Coach Meyer's phone. So no, I wasn't. I 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: wasn't too worried. I was just like, dang, it's a 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: long ten minutes to sit here and wait on someone 105 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: to call you. It's not how the process is supposed 106 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: to go. Um, did you did you have a honeymoon? 107 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Did you have time for a honeymoon? No, not yet. 108 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: We're planning on taking one in July. We get a 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: little bit of time. But we stayed at the wedding 110 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: venue for a couple of days after we got married, 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: and then just it was such a crazy time. It 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: really didn't have time we go take a week or 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: so and just be alone. So we're looking forward to 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: doing that later this summer. When you were a Gatorade 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, what did that kind of signify 116 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: to you? It's just it was the first time, I 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: guess I was really represented, if you if you'll say 118 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: that by a brand like Gatorade, you know, such a 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: such a big brand that I've been around since I 120 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: was a kid, that I've loved, and then kind of 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: combining that with my high school, my team, all that, 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, the success I was able to have it 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: was really special, And yeah, I was just able I'm 124 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: sure it's kind of where you're leading. I was just 125 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: able to present the twenty twenty one Gatorade National Football 126 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: Player of the Year to Jackson yesterday, So that was 127 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: really special and cool to be a part of kind 128 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: of on the other side of that, and just really 129 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: cool to be able to spend a little bit of 130 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: time with him. This is the biggest and best high 131 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: school sports award there is, so for me to, you know, 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I was the state player of the year. To be 133 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: a part of that when I was in high school, 134 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: then turn around four years later, three or four years 135 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: later or whatever it is and be able to present 136 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: it to someone national Player of the Year was really 137 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: it was really cool. Yeah, Jackson Dart he's out of Utah, 138 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: and I know that he's a USC recruit. That that 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: sounds like like a quarterback's name, like you're throwing darts, right, 140 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: pretty cool names quarterback. Yeah. We're about seven or eight minutes. Chin, 141 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: I haven't asked Tim Tebow question. Are you impressed by that? Uh? 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: That might be the record? Okay, do you have a 143 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: statement prepared? Is there a question that you want me 144 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: to ask about t Bows that you're prepared to answer? 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an open book, and I don't. You 146 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: can ask whatever, it's not gonna surprise me. Have you 147 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: practiced with Tim? I have. We've gotten three practices in 148 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: together now, I think I believe it was third last, Thursday, Monday, 149 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: and yesterday. So what do you? What are your impressions? 150 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: He looks good. I mean, he's in great shape, he's 151 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: running well. You can tell he's been training. He came 152 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: in here and he's in great shape, like I said, 153 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: And then I think just mentally, he's picking everything up 154 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: really quickly. I think it helps him that he played 155 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: quarterback and he's learned a few different systems. And have 156 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: you yelled at him yet? Because the quarterback hitch to 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: yell at people. No, no, no, I haven't. I haven't. 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I haven't got to yet. He's been really, he's been awesome. 159 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: People have been asking me and everything that and I 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: didn't note him at all until I met him last 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: week actually, so I never even talked to him. And 162 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: we've had a few good conversations and everything that you 163 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: hear about him, from what I've been able to tell, 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: it's true. You know, great character, just a guy you 165 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: want to be around. You want to have around your 166 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: team just because he brings another element um and just 167 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's been through a lot and as one 168 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: and as you've done at a high level. Is it's 169 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: it's cool to be around that and a guy that 170 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: was so big when I first started getting into into football. 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, it was probably ten or eleven when he 172 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: was at Florida. So it's really cool now it's just weird, 173 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: like being his teammate now is it's an interesting dynamic. 174 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: But but have you said to him, Hey, I grew 175 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: up watching you like but probably I haven't. We we've 176 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: been talking about a lot of different a lot of 177 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: other different things. But and I hadn't really thought about 178 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: it until someone asked me a couple of days ago, 179 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, Dangea, this is the guy I 180 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: grew up watching and playing with on like NCA games 181 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it is weird if you were team 182 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Boat playing video games. Yeah yeah at some point, hey, 183 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: good luck. Gonna be quite a journey there. But Mike 184 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: got urban Meyer though on your side. Now you're you're 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: used to going against, but now he's on your side, 186 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: no doubt. We got we got a good group. We're 187 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: really excited. Everyone's been working hard, so we're excited for 188 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: this year. It's going to be a lot of fun. 189 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Trevor and good luck. We appreciate your time. 190 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan, I appreciate him Man Trevor Lawrence. Learn 191 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: more about the Gatorade Player of the Year program visit 192 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: Player of the Year dot Gatorade dot com. Thanks for 193 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 194 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 196 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 197 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 198 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or 199 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Let's say you 200 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: had been out of the country for a while and 201 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: you came back over and you saw the celebration after 202 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: the Knicks game against the Hawks outside the garden. You've 203 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: got guys with their shirts off, cars beeping like you 204 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: would have thought that somebody just won a championship up there. 205 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: You just knocked off the pesky Atlanta Hawks in game 206 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: two of your opening round series. But you know that's 207 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: me being sarcastic here, You know, not a Knicks fan, 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: but certainly understand that place and when it's rocking, there's 209 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: no other venue like it in all the sports. We'll 210 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: talk to Mike breen, the voice of the Knicks. He 211 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: was on the call last night. He probably couldn't sleep 212 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: last night. I'm guessing after a big win like that. 213 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: The Hall of Famer Mike Breen on the call with 214 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: the Knicks over the Hawks. Breeney, thanks for joining us. 215 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: Can you put it into words how big that win 216 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: was last night? Well, they won a championship down as 217 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: you said it, it was so emotional and the same 218 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: thing Sunday night Game one, and obviously a lot had 219 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: to do with the Nix performance, but there's so much 220 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: more that went into it, and it's kind of hard 221 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: to describe, but it was like the perfect storm. Here. 222 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: You have this loyal, hungry fan base that has been 223 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: tortured and heartbroken time and time again, not just with 224 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: no playoffs but brutal seasons, so eight years of going 225 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: through that, that's number one, and I think just as 226 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: important as the pandemic. It's kind of like the family reunion. 227 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: We've all watched those videos of families who haven't seen 228 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: each other. For a year and they get to see 229 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: their mother or father for the first time, or their brothers, 230 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: and it's so emotional. It was like the Nick family 231 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: reunion at the garden. And right after the national anthem 232 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: of Game one Sunday, you know, there's powerful national anthem. 233 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: One of the great stars of Hamilton sang it, and 234 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: then the chance start. I was looking around the arena 235 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: and our broadcast location is in now it's about twenty 236 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: rows up, so we're in the midst of the fans, 237 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: not on the court. There were people who were crying, 238 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and not just a couple, there were a lot. It 239 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: was such an emotional thing because it was really the 240 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: first sports gathering in New York City, which, like many cities, 241 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: went through, you know, horrific times. So the emotions just 242 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: got you caught up. I was emotional myself. But to 243 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: explain this to somebody, and you do games all over 244 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: the NBA, in every venue, but to where does this 245 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: atmosphere rank of the different basketball arenas that you've called 246 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: games in Well, full disclosure, I probably not the most objective. 247 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I grew up in New York. I've lived in New 248 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: York my whole life. I've been a you know, as 249 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a Nick fan when I was seven years old, captured 250 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: by Clyde and Willis and the Busher. So I might 251 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: not be the most objective, but I think in a 252 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: big event, in a big game, there's no better building 253 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: in sports, and again because it has not had that. 254 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Let me put it this way, over the last several years, 255 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: there's been games in April where the Knicks are twenty 256 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: games under five hundred. They've been eliminated from playoff consideration 257 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: for a month or so, and if it's a two 258 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: point game with two minutes ago, the building sounds like 259 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: it's Game seven of the finals. It's it's crazy because 260 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: of this this hungry, desperate fan base that that experienced 261 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: years ago a great team and are just they just 262 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: want a team that that that makes them proud and 263 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: makes them feel like they have a chance to win 264 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: every night. Do you remember a time when free agents 265 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: decided that they didn't want to play for the Knicks, 266 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, because Durant famously said, look, I didn't consider them, 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: like basically, I don't care about the legacy you know 268 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: of this place. But they haven't gotten they haven't attracted 269 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: that that big free agent. Why do you think that 270 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: is because of the losing. Um. You know, we can 271 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: talk all we want about the city and the arena, 272 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: but if if a team is a is A is 273 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: a bad team and they have no shot at the playoffs, 274 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: and in terms of their roster, it doesn't look like 275 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: it's going to get better in time. Players just don't 276 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: want to go there. Today, today's young players, they just 277 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: want to win. And you know some of them might say, 278 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: I want to be on the national stage. You can 279 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: be on the national stage in any team in any 280 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: market the country. And I think now it's all about 281 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: winning in the emphasis about winning championships, and that's why 282 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: we're even seeing, you know, these star players taking lesser 283 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: roles so they can go to a team that's gonna 284 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: have a chance to advance to the playoffs and maybe 285 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: win them the ring. I did wonder the atmosphere last 286 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: night if that resonates with players now, if they see 287 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: this like now you're starting to see or hear what 288 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: you know you've heard about in previous generations. Here. You know, 289 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson talking about New York and it almost felt 290 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: like he was flirting with the Knicks earlier this season, 291 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: and I just wonder if if this is a team 292 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: that could get out of this first round and go 293 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: to another round and you get more of these games. 294 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: This atmosphere, of this environment, can that resonate with younger 295 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: players in the NBA that wanting to be part of 296 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: something that's special or different. Yeah, I think it can, Dan, 297 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: And you know last night, one of the biggest cheers 298 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: of the night, in the middle of the game, they 299 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: put up on a big screen a tweet from Lebron 300 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: James talking about how wow, this building's allowed, the garden 301 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: is rocking. The place exploded when it saw that because 302 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: another player, another player who declined to come when he 303 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: had the opportunity, is talking about what a great atmosphere 304 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: it is. And to me, that was always the number 305 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: one priority for this regime this year was to establish 306 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: that things have changed, that now this is a good 307 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: destination because you have a chance not only to play 308 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: in New York, but more importantly, to play on a 309 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: team that has a chance to be successful, it plays 310 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: well together, that has an excellent future, And that was 311 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: number one. All this extra stuff, getting into the playoffs, 312 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: getting the fourth seed, maybe advancing to the second round, 313 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: although we're obviously sure to that right now. I think 314 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: that in some ways as secondary, they have now changed 315 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: the perception around the league, not just from players but agents, 316 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: who have a very big say in where players go 317 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: in many occasions. So I think that perception changing has 318 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: been the most important thing for them. The fu Trey uh, 319 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Trey Young is balding. Um. I mean this is this 320 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: is an opening round game against the Hawks, Mike, It's not. 321 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: It's not like you know the Sixers are in town 322 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: or the you know you're playing the net. Yeah. They 323 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: the series is tied at one first and I must 324 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: say again, being in New Yorker, with all that's happened 325 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: over the past year, and with the franchise over the 326 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: past eight years, it's very easy to get caught up 327 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: into it. So I understand that. As for the chance 328 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: sound like the parental scolding gray haired old man, But 329 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: come on, let's we can be better than that. Think 330 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: of something clever, Think is something funny, um, even think 331 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: of something hostile. But that one particular chant f Trey 332 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Young over and over again, and it was not just 333 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: a handful of people, it was a lot. I think 334 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: we can do better than that. I was I was disappointed. 335 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: In that and I don't know, it looks like there's 336 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: video of somebody spitting on Trey Young. Were you aware 337 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: of that? I saw the headline, I didn't see it. 338 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Wasn't aware of it until about a half hour ago. 339 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: And that's, you know, same thing with the Russell Westbrook. 340 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, spitting and throwing popcorn are clearly two different things. 341 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's something that just has to 342 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: be stopped. Westbrook is right, and it's up to the 343 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: arenas and it's up to the teams to make sure 344 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: if that happens, and even the fans around him to 345 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: to try and stop that thing right away, because it's 346 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: just I mean, it's it's clearly disgusting when people do 347 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that. He's Mike Brain Hall of Famer, by 348 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: the way, congratulations on that honor. I could damn How 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: did you find out about that? The initial time was 350 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: I got a I got an email. They tried to 351 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: call me. I was on a flight and I got 352 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: an email. Um while I was on the flight. I 353 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: think it was New York to LA. So I'm reading 354 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: the email, and you know, something like that brings about 355 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: so many memories of so many people that helped you. 356 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on the plane, and of course now 357 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: I've got tears in my eyes and the streaming down 358 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: my face, and the guy sitting next to me, he's 359 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: looking at me like, oh am, I sitting next to 360 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: one of these clowns. So I wanted to tell him, no, 361 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm okay, but I didn't have the heart to tell him. 362 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: You should have gotten on the loudspeaker and just said, look, 363 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm emotional. In case you're wondering, uh, you know, trade 364 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: tables in the upright and locked position, and I'm a 365 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Yeah. I don't know if that would 366 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: have worked as well, or I should just just looked 367 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: at him and said, I just get emotional every time. 368 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: I when did you develop the bang? When? When did 369 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: that come about? With your signature call? Actually, in college, 370 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: when I was a student for HUM, I broadcast the 371 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: games on the college radio station WFUB, and I didn't 372 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: use it on the air. I used it when I 373 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: went as a fan, you know, when I wasn't calling 374 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: the games. I was in the stands route on my 375 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: college team, and when a Fordham player hit a big 376 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: shot as a fan, scream it out and I tried 377 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: it on the air a couple of times when I 378 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: was doing college radio, and I didn't like it. I 379 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't think it was it worked, so I kind of 380 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: shelved it for a while, and then I started doing 381 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: some TV later on, and I felt it worked better 382 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: and I liked it at the end of games when 383 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: it was a big call, because I didn't feel I 384 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: had a strong enough voice to override the crowd. And 385 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: if you have, you know, a single syllable word that 386 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of punctuates the moment and then get out of 387 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: the way and let the crowd take over. That's when 388 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: I started using on a regular basis, and I thought, 389 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, it was a good time at that point 390 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: of the game to use a bang worthy moment. I 391 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: go back to Steph Curry hit a shot in the 392 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen Oklahoma City from about you know, thirty eight feet, 393 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: and like it was a great exclamation point without taking 394 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: away from the play. You added to the play by 395 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: just that bang, and then you know, it just it 396 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: felt like, how did I do by the way, I 397 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: thought you did very well? Okay, thank you, okay, thank you. Yeah. 398 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you go back and listen to it, I 399 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: think who's the screaming fool. But if you love the sport, 400 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: and I do, and I've loved basketball since I was 401 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: a kid, you still get caught up in the emotion. 402 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: And that particular play that you speak of was that 403 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: was when he was on that incredible run. The team 404 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: was like fifty four and five and everything worked together, 405 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: and he got hurt earlier in the game. They were 406 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: down twelve and they still came back and won. It 407 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: was that magic carpet ride they were on. So you 408 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: just you get caught up in a moment sometimes. Could 409 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: you maybe give me Patrick from three? You can give 410 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: me a bang or something? I mean, is that probably unprofessional? 411 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I thought i'd ask, well, do 412 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: you have a basket day? Do you have a ball 413 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: you can shoot? Possible? I do have a hoop here, 414 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: but you can assume it's going in. I mean, it's me. 415 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: You're very cocky with your game. Yes I am, Yes, 416 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I am. If nobody's guarding me, I'm I'm I'm Trey Old. 417 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I'm gonna make it. Yeah Patrick 418 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: for three? Bang? Okay, you nailed it. That's a first quarter. Yeah, 419 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Well I know, and I'm fine. With that, I know, 420 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the fourth quarter and over time there. 421 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: How close do you think Lebron was to coming to 422 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: the Knicks. I don't think he was close at all. 423 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: I know the story recently came out he wanted um 424 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: but that his wife didn't want to. Now, who knows 425 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: if that's if that's true or not. But the way 426 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: I look at it, if he really wanted to come 427 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: to New York, he'd be there. He would have been there, 428 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: And I don't think it was. I don't. I don't 429 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: think at that particular time it was. It was even 430 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: a possibility. Yeah, I wonder about that, that if his 431 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: wife didn't want to go, and you know, she's probably saying, 432 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: all right, we've been in Cleveland, we've been in Miami, 433 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: we've been back to Cleveland. Now where are we going? 434 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: And she probably I could understand her saying, look, let's 435 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: just pick a spot where we're going to stay so 436 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: I can raise the family here. Yeah, it's it's only 437 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: he knows for sure. But I didn't think, you know, 438 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: I think he was being kind to saying okay, yeah, 439 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: I thought about it was possibility, really was interested. But 440 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think there was a chance 441 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: that we're going to get him. We got one of 442 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: your broadcast partners, Jeff Van Gundhi on the show tomorrow. 443 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Why is he so cranky? He's actually he's actually well, 444 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say. We haven't spoken in months. We had 445 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: an argument. You were able to do it professionally on 446 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: the air, m but off here. So if he's got 447 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: something going on, it makes him cranky. I'm not really 448 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: certain why. Wow, I don't wow. That was a Marv 449 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: Albert answer there. That the ultimate compliment. Yes, yes, that's 450 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: definitely a mar of Albert answer. You got Suns Lakers 451 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday, do you have that right? Okay? And then 452 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: you got net Celtics, you got that tomorrow night. Yes, 453 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: that'll be that'll be a hostile crowd as well. Yeah, well, 454 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it matters without Jayalen Brown there. 455 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: That's a good point, but if the Celtics don't compete, 456 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: they'll spend the night booing Kyrie Irving probably Yeah, and 457 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: then Suns Lakers. I don't know the availability of Chris Paul. 458 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Does that have you ever? When's the last time you 459 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: were surprised going into a game? And you're like, this 460 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: team has no chance of winning this game. Oh, it 461 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: happens all the time. I mean, that's the beauty of 462 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: the NBA. Now, does it happen in the playoffs? Perhaps not? 463 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I was surprised. I was 464 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: really surprised at the M and I game two Clippers 465 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: and Mavericks. All right's a Clippers loose game one at home? 466 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: All right, that happens. But then to come back and 467 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: beaten like that, that that was a surprise because this 468 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: is a Clipper team that their whole season is geared 469 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: toward getting back in the playoffs and redemption from from 470 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: the collapse last year. And for them to have that 471 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: it shows number one, how there's something still not right there, 472 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: and number two that Luca don chich is going to 473 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: be one of the all time greats. Well, you're a 474 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, so he'll eventually join you in the 475 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I guess, Mike, is that what you're saying? 476 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: Was that a roundabout way of me? Come? Wow? That 477 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: is self serving? I can't well, I can't wait to 478 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: get on a plane now and go over the loudspeaker. 479 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: Yes that yeah, well, no, just have the flight attendant 480 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: just say you know, and we would like to let 481 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: everybody know we have a Hall of Famer on the flight. 482 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: He's Mike Brain. He's seated in two way. Don't don't 483 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: come up to him. He's crying right now. But do 484 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: you get like as you get older? I mean, do 485 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: you get more emotional as you get older? Oh? Yeah, 486 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm a mess. You cry at commercials? Yes? Yeah, okay, 487 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: so we're kindred spirits. Oh no, it's embarrassing. Like my 488 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: son got married a couple of weeks ago. I was 489 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: holding onto the back of my wife's shoulders, crying into 490 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: her hair, trying to muffle the sound as my son 491 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: came down. You think Dick for meals an emotional mess. 492 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: I crush him. People, I was making the wedding party cry. 493 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: It's like it was just horrible, horrible. I'm heaving. You know, 494 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: when you cry and my son's getting married, I should 495 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: be happy. I'm crying. I got three daughters, Mike that 496 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: I got to walk down the aisle. There's no way 497 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: I can do it. Oh, forget it. Forget. My worst 498 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: one again was I shouldn't say this again. It was 499 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: on a plane and I'm trying to watch your movie, 500 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: and I pick because I remember this movie. I enjoyed 501 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: my kids Finding Nemo. This is one of the great 502 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: should built movies. And as the movies near the end, 503 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: and it's this wonderful father son relationship. I'm crying on 504 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: the plane watching Finding Me. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong 505 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: with that. There's no shame in that. But you're only 506 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: by yourself. You're more by yourself there. I'm on display. God, 507 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: I I want my daughters to get married, but I 508 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: don't want them to get married just because I don't 509 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: want to cry. Well, I want to. I'm proud of you, Dan, 510 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike. Thank you Mike. Safe travels and good 511 00:27:52,160 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: luck on the plane. Than Bang Bang Curry from thirty 512 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: eight Pang, I'll work on that. I don't work on that. 513 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike. That's the Hall of Famer, Mike Breen. 514 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 515 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 516 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 517 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 518 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. We 519 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: bring in Dominic Wilkins the Hall of Famer, the Hawks 520 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: vice president of basketball, and twenty six close to twenty 521 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: seven thousand points when it was all said and done. 522 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: He's broadcasting the Hawks playoff games for Bally's Sports and 523 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: he joins us, Now, Nick, good morning. How you feeling good? 524 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm doing okay. Were you ever 525 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: told how your parents came up with Dominique as your name? Yeah? 526 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Actually my dad was in a military he was in 527 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: the army for twenty six years. Anyway, I was born 528 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: in so Boing, France. It's right outside of Paris, and 529 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: we had the aide nanny who named me. And basically 530 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: she said to my mom, looking a little Dominique, she said, 531 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: that's not his name. She said, well it should be, 532 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: and my mom said, okay, it's changed his name to 533 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: little Dominique. Really, but actually, Dominique is my middle name. 534 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: My first name is Jock, Jock Cominique. Wow. So you 535 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: certainly had the French influence there. Yeah, I do, and 536 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: can't speak a lick of it. But I was wondering 537 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: if we came up with a nine foot rim and 538 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: had you and Jordan do a dunk contest right now, 539 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: it would be the greatest nine foot duck contest ever 540 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: because we don't have to jump his eye anymore. So 541 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: that would be fun. Actually. But you know, I talked 542 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: to doctor J about dunking. He said that he can 543 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: still dunk. He said, it's it's not going up, it's 544 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: coming down that hurts so much. You know, I say 545 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: that all the time. You know, it is not the 546 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: going up that hurts. Coming down. This was going to 547 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: kill you, you know. But you know I can steal 548 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: dunk as well at ripe age of sixty one. But 549 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: you know you gonna have some eight some pains later on. Though. 550 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever feel sorry for when you dunked on somebody? 551 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Not an ounce? And that was the most exhilarating feeling 552 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: that you could ever have, especially when you do it. 553 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: You dunk on bigger guys, big guys where it seemed 554 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: like to get you charged up. After you make a 555 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: great play like that, give me the guy you dunked 556 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: on and you just said, man, that is so good. Well, 557 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: influence quite a few, but I would I would say 558 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: guys like like join guys like Bob Lanier who didn't 559 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: speak to me for nine years after, you know, Robert 560 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Paris and guys like that. I mean, I just really 561 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: got me off on dunk on bigger guys. Well, you 562 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: dunked on bird, didn't you a few times? A few 563 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: times a few times? You know who shouldn't have jumped? Well, 564 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: I you can tell when guys go up to block 565 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: a dunk or contest it and then they start to 566 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: go up and they realize I'm starting to come down 567 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: and you're still going up. This is well. You've seen 568 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: those situations many times, you know where when you got 569 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: the great high flyers and you go out in challenging, 570 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: when you get in here, you let oh, I'm in trouble. 571 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: And you know when you got the great high fliers, man, 572 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: they had the ability to hang in the head a 573 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: little bit longer than others. It's just a beautiful thing 574 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: to watch. We brought up your brother the other day 575 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: when he was labeled to Jordan Stopper, and I felt 576 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: bad for your brother because you knew that was gonna 577 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: make Michael Man when you, oh, you're the Jordan Stopper. Huh. 578 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: You know what I called my brother when he said that, 579 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: and I said, I said, what are you doing? I said, 580 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to wake up a sleeping giant. Are 581 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: you crazy? And he said, hey, you put on this 582 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: pants like I do. I said, sure, you know, if 583 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: you're a good defensive player, you don't have to talk 584 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: about it. Man, you don't want to get him railed up. Man. 585 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: I think he every like forty in that series. Yeah, 586 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: whenever there was this guy is the next Jordan or 587 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: this guy is the Jordan stopper, I went, this isn't 588 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna go well, it's just good, it's not. And I 589 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: used to love when guys talk tracks, you know, and 590 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: say things, because I would be so jacked up and 591 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: ready to play against that that guy he was gonna 592 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: have a long night. The atmosphere at the Garden last night, 593 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: like you played at the Boston Garden. You know those 594 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: playoff games with a set exactly just like that environment. 595 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: What is that like to play in an environment when 596 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: you know the opposing team hate you. There's no better 597 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: environment than those hostile environments as an opponent on your court. 598 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: That's what basketball is all about, and that's what competing 599 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: is all about. I embrace it, and it really it's 600 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: a compliment to you as an individual when fans boo 601 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: you and and try to come at you. It's a 602 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: cop made because because they know how good you are. 603 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: And that's the thing to happen to Trey Young. And 604 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, I said to you know the last couple 605 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: of days, that's just the respect they have for them. 606 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: If they didn't respect him, they wouldn't say anything. But also, 607 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: what is he twenty years of age? I mean imagine, yeah, 608 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Nick, you're twenty years of age. You're in 609 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: the garden. They're saying, fu Trey Young. I mean, wow, 610 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: it's a bit much, I will say that. But at 611 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: the same time, uh, when you kick somebody's ass, they 612 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: don't chant as much, you know. And then at the 613 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, when the series of 614 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: those same fans and you know what, we have to 615 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: give him his respect and his due because he came 616 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: to play, and so he's one of those jump superstars. 617 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: That's embrace it. Don't bother him. You know, he loves it, 618 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: matter of fact. So and that's what great players do. 619 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: That was really the good and great player. They embrace 620 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: that because that's what competing is all about. Do you 621 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: recognize today's NBA Oh yes, of course, yes, you know, 622 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: and look, we all played in a different time. You know, 623 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: when I hate when people get to comparing, Oh this 624 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: air is better, that air is better, you know, you know, 625 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: this asks more talented, and it's just ridiculous when I 626 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: hear that stuff. You know, i'd say, if you people 627 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: do that history and go back, you know, when the 628 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: greatest players to ever played this game we're playing. You know, 629 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: it was a knockout, drag out type of game where 630 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: guys just went at each other. It was very competitive, 631 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: and so we've had our time. You know, it's these 632 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: guys times, and so the only thing I hate is 633 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: when they try to discredit us to prove a point. Yeah, 634 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: I just wonder who would have benefited the most in 635 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: today's rules, who you played with. I wish that nobody 636 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: couldn't touch me. You know, back when I played, you know, 637 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: I was getting twenty eight thirty plus in hand check here, 638 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, and people ask me. I was saying, oh, 639 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: what would you everything? I said, I don't know. If 640 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't touch me, I can tell you to be 641 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: over thirty five a game, you know, because I love 642 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: the physical contact. So the fact that they can't touch 643 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: you like that anymore, it definitely would be beneficial to me, 644 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: what's the best performance you ever witness? The best performance 645 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: I ever witnessed part of it against Michael Jordan, and 646 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: I never had a player to do this before. I 647 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: think I had fifty seven in Atlanta. We go back 648 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: to Chicago weeks later, and I remember Michael Jordan walks 649 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: in our locker room before the game. Were in suiting time. 650 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: Haven't gotten dressed that. He walks in our locker room 651 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hell is he doing? You know? So 652 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe going to the training room or something. 653 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: So he walks by me. He walks by Kevin Willis 654 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: and he gets the randy with mean and slaps someone 655 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: behind me. He said, lace him up, it's gonna be along. 656 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: I turn and walked out, and I'm in shock. I'm like, 657 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: he just and I didn't know what to say. I said, 658 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: well you tell that, so what's so Scotti? Pip I 659 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: won't kick his I didn't know what to say. He 660 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: had sixty, but you know, even though he had sixties, 661 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: the way he had it, you know, it was electric, man, 662 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was incredible to witness, you 663 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: know what he was the unique when we see Kobe. 664 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: Kobe's was a volume shooter. Mike was pretty economical, like 665 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: he made the most of his possessions and his shots. 666 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: He was so efficient as well as being an assassin, 667 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: a killer out there on the floor, and he wanted 668 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: to basically take your heart with every possession. That's who 669 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: he was. I mean, he wasn't a guy without there 670 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: make my greatest battles that I've had was against Michael. 671 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Michael and I are probably the only ones in the history. 672 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say throughout our career, through our 673 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: whole career, we were the only two as follows the 674 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: average over thirty against one another for a career. I mean, 675 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: that's how competitive it was. Do you think we're headed 676 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: for Lakers nets? I would I wouldn't go that far 677 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: as of yet, you know, because Lakers still got to 678 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: get by Phoenix. Even though home court has swung back 679 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: into the Lakers favor. It's gonna be a good. I 680 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: think that's still gonna be a good. It all depends 681 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: on if Chris Paul is healthy, if he's not healthy. 682 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: I think it'd be tough for Phoenix, really do, because 683 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: you know, you got Lebron, you got ad over there. 684 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: What long as you got to do is two guys 685 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: healthy and playing the way they did the other night. 686 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: It's still I think it'd be tough to beat the Lakers. 687 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: You okay, with these guys joining teams, you know, these 688 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: super teams, Well, that's the way it is now, that's 689 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: where it is now. You know the thing is that 690 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: when we played, I always wanted to try to win 691 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: for this city in Atlanta, and the only way I 692 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: figured that I can measure my greatness is to play 693 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 1: against the greatest players. So now none of us wanted 694 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: to join team. If it happened, it happened, But we 695 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 1: didn't you know, seek teams out too, because you couldn't 696 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: do it in those days anyway, not like that. They 697 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: just changed. Players have more control that well. I think 698 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: one of the first times I remember was when Moses 699 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: Malone joined Doctor J in Philadelphia, and that felt like 700 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: a super team. I mean, they already had a talented team, 701 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: but I think he was a free agent and he 702 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: joined the seventy six ers with Doctor But it wasn't 703 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: like you know, it was you know, the public knowledge 704 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: that he might be going here or going there. It 705 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: just happened with you know, a guy end up in 706 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: a situation. Team had enough money, you know, they moved 707 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: to another player and the next thing you know, Moses 708 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: Malone is still out there, hadn't signed. He had decided 709 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: he wasn't to sign and when anybody yet, But when 710 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: an opportunity came up to go to Philly, he went 711 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: to Philly and yeah they had a great team, but 712 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: yeah they became a super team when he came there. 713 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: Do you still hold a grudge against anybody, you know? No, 714 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: I helped grudges when I played against guys, but and 715 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: I didn't like certain guys. But now I want to 716 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: talk to those guys about the way. No, I take 717 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: that back. Certain guys. You know, some guys I still 718 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: can't stay. But give me, give me a couple of 719 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: names you think you don't like, Well, well, guys that 720 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: we know we hate each other and we had a 721 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: funny thing and we end up playing together for a 722 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: year and that was Chuck person. Man. We fought all 723 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: the time, I mean fish fights we've had. And now 724 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: I end up on the team when I'm like, I'm 725 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: on this team with a guy I absolutely cannot stand, 726 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, But after you retire, man like call the 727 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: aloon and up to the time we had had conversation. 728 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: We didn't talk to the other over twenty one years. 729 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: We really didn't from the time he played to a 730 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: time years after retire and I remember we went to 731 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: an event and I cracked some corny joke and called along. 732 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: Family was sitting on one side. My family was on 733 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: the other side. It's unique. I didn't know you that funny. 734 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: And we said, yeah, we thought you were a hole 735 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: and it both and called along myself and Clyde Xa. 736 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: We were like brothers. Now we're close. We're so close, man, 737 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: because we cherished the time and that we competed and 738 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: played against one of them, you know, so we live 739 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: for those conversations. Were you okay with Patrick Ewing? Oh? 740 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: Pat was a very close friend of mine as well. Uh. 741 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 1: I love Patrick Ewing, spirit, loved him as as a player, 742 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: respected him a lot, and even to this day, you 743 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: know Pat and I, you know, we were very close friends. Yeah. 744 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: Well he had that demeanor on the floor though he 745 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: had oh he had he had attitude. Yeah, yeah, that's 746 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: but that was the respect that we had for another. 747 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: It was an unspoken thing that we didn't have to 748 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: speak to one other. We didn't have to shake hands. 749 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, we knew what we were here for. You 750 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: happy you have to hate Bill Lane Bear? Uh yeah, yeah, man, 751 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: I think everybody in the league hated that should they did. 752 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: But but the funny thing is, man, I you know, 753 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: I talked to him Horne these days, man, and we 754 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: laugh about that stuff now. And you know if you 755 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: if you talk too both of those guys, they're really big, 756 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: teddy bass they really are, you know, but when you 757 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: put them between the lines, they you know, it's like 758 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: the whole demeanor it changes. And that's what competitiveness does, 759 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: you know. But you know those guys was there was 760 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: some tough, rugged, you know, nasty guys, you know. But 761 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, I remember Lambier took me out of the 762 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: air one time we had. I jumped up and I'm 763 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: swinging and you know, punch has been thrown. After the game, 764 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: I see him at a restaurant slash lounge. Hey, Nick, 765 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: how you doing? Like, do you remember you just took 766 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: me out of there? You know you forgotten. But but 767 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: Lane Beer knew his job, like he kind of he's 768 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: like an actor, you know, this guy shows up, then 769 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: becomes a character and then when he's done then he 770 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: walks off and then he's different. Yeah, that's what That's 771 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: who Lambier was. You know, it was like an actor 772 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: in a sense. But his demeanor and his attitude, know when, 773 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: as far as his focus of the game was brought 774 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,479 Speaker 1: none some of the most focused guys I've ever seen. 775 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean they were there for one weedion to take 776 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: your heart and it was something to to to experience 777 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: and compete against. But it made it fun. It's great 778 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: to catch up with you is always Nique. Have fun. 779 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: The rest of this series shouldn't be pretty spirited and 780 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Thanks Pats, good to see you man. 781 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: That's Dominique Wilkins, the Hall of Famer, the Hawks vice 782 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: president of basketball, and he's working the Hawks playoff games 783 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: for Ballet Sports. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 784 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 785 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 786 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: Search f s R to listen live.