WEBVTT - Zombies (with Rider Strong) 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.360 Did you like scary movies growing up? 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.200 Love them? 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.720 Really? Love that? Should I start that over and say, 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.479 what's your favorite scary movie? Did I do that? Is 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:23.960 that better? 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.320 That one was a good one. I did love that 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.600 one a lot, a lot. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.000 Do you remember the first really scary movie? I mean, 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.800 did you jump right into horror movies? And did you 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:35.560 do like kid horror movies? First? 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.199 I think I just jumped right into that. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:44.040 I think I honestly feel like Scream was probably my first. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:49.160 I auditioned for Scream for which part Skeet Ulrich's part? 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.159 Oh, I did even wonderful? 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.040 They told me I was too young at the time. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.320 I was too young, but I actually auditioned first Scream. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.200 How old is that? Were you? 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:58.400 Like? 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.720 I don't know. I was nine. It was what like 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.720 nineteen ninety They. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.720 Were high schoolers, they were, but I was. I was, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.040 but they were all not high school. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.880 I might have been a high school in real life, 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.600 but I was in Hollywood high school, right. No, I 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.760 was probably only twenty, So that was in high school. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.920 Because that was a good franchise to be a part of. 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.120 Yah. I didn't I should I should tell you what 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.040 I actually meant. I auditioned to play Skeet Ulrich playing 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.240 his part in Screen? Is that confusing? 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.080 Yes? Yes? 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.119 What kidding? 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.800 Oh my gosh, No, but nothing beats Nothing beats Saw Nothing. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.640 Oh my god. Those movies, those. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.840 Oh movies so good, they're so creepy. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.280 Have you heard the theory that Macaulay Culkin's character from 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.040 Home Alone grew up to be the main guy from 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.480 Saw because he does all the things, like, he does 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.240 all the things when they're breaking into the house, like 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.160 he plants all the stuff. So that started his psychosis 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.600 and his character actually turns it into the guy, the 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:01.560 main guy from Saw. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:02.960 The one that's laying down. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.000 Yeah, it's a big it's a big Hollywood guy, the 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:07.800 big guy with the I don't know the mask whatever 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.360 his name of the main guys in Saw. That's Macaulay 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:11.600 Culkin from Still. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:17.320 Can't see anything like horse Head and not have a 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.160 nightmare that night? 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.080 Really okay? So no Godfather for you? 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.000 No, No, I can't do any of that stuff. That's crazy. No, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:26.880 all right, I love them. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.160 Well that's going to lead us into this week. But 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.359 first of all, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.239 that makes you want to grab your friends your pjs 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.359 and your popcorn and go back to a time when 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.000 all the houses were smart, the waves, Tsunamis and the 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.360 high School's musical. I'm Wilfridell and I'm Sabrina Brian And 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.000 you know what, this week, we're not going solo. We're 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.239 going to bring in a third partner in crime. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.079 Here professional If you will. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.160 I will. I've never met this man, I hear he 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.000 knows a lot about films. I want to make sure 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.440 I'm getting this pronunciation right. He's from something called Boys 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:05.959 Meet World something like that. He also has a podcast 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.320 called POD's Meat This World I think it's pronounced. And 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.440 his name, and this has got to be a stage name, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:16.639 is Rider Strong. Yes, so please help us welcome my 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.600 old friend Rider Strong to the podcast. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:26.440 Hid Hi, guys, Now there's a very specific reason you're here, Rider, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.720 and that's because when I told you about the new 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.200 podcast that I was doing, you and Danielle at the 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.320 same time tried to call the same movie the movie 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.160 we're doing today. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.119 Can you intro the movie that we're doing today? Rider? 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.360 What did we watch? 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.200 We watched the movie Zombies, Yes, and yeah, I think 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.040 Danielle and I both had the exact same experience, which 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.680 is that this movie did so well with our kids, 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.000 Like there were about three months of my life that 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.680 were just all zombies all the time. Yes, I could 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.480 not get in the car without having to put on 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:00.720 the zombie songs. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.680 Indy would be singing them constantly. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.640 And then there are three zombies movies, so I've seen 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:08.040 them all. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.720 This is easily the best one. Okay, okay, but it's really. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.760 Funny to go back and watch again for this because 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.720 I hadn't seen it since I guess the pandemic, like 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.880 it had been a while. So yeah, I mean I 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.080 think he watched the first one right about when it 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.400 first came out, which would have made him only. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.040 Five years of twenty eighteen. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.640 Yeah, so yeah, I think we probably watched it in 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.200 like twenty nineteen and then like early twenty twenty, and 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:32.720 that's yeah. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.479 He was just just loved it. And so I told 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:36.760 him that. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.719 We were doing this, and he and I sat down 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.320 and watched it again and I saw it with new eyes. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.440 Oh did he watch it with you? That's so fun awesome, Monroe. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.160 My daughter watched this one, and I will say this 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.240 is probably one of the first ones she's actually sat 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:52.480 through the whole thing and. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.280 Now how old wait refreshed me. How old is Monroe? Again? 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.080 Monroe's going to be four here two weeks? 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:59.560 So wow. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:03.960 She actually normally she sits for a minute and then yeah, 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.680 like me, she's over it, like I do the same thing. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.040 There was a moment where I thought I lost her, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.520 we'll get there, but she came back and she finished 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.040 it out. So this was the first one. Okay, I'll 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:16.440 you know, really pay attention to that. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.800 Well, Danielle and Ryder called it at the same time 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.160 rider run by a fraction of the second, So Danielle 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.560 Fisher will be joining us for Zombies two Perfect Times, which, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.120 by the way, is what we call every single sequel Riders. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:34.560 This time it's personal. So I have a well documented 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:40.120 phobia that everybody knows about. Frankly only one. Yes, I 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.200 don't we the phobia, Yes you do. My musical phobia. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.520 Oh where I do? 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:45.719 Not? 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.000 I always sit there and go what did they all 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.640 just get together and decide on the lyrics to the song, 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:51.919 Like we're in the middle of a scene and they 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.520 all break in the song. What. Yes, I'm starting to 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.840 get better because we've seen now a ton really liked 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.520 the first high school musical. I was the last person 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.680 in the world who never seen it. I still have 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.839 never seen that. Okay, so there's one left. But let's 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:11.120 fire it up now, because this is our year, our episode. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.840 This is gonna be see. There you go give a 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:18.799 first installment in another modern day dcom franchise hit, following 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.240 the now unstoppable formula of good looking young actors singing 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.080 catchy pop hits. Zombies was first teased during the premiere 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.839 of Descendants two on the Disney Channel, which is the 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.960 type of setup you pray you get for your film. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.400 And also, we can say this now, A lot of 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.640 negative reviews of this movie involve the idea that it's 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.039 just a Descendants for zombies. Do either of you first 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.479 of all? Writer, I know Sabrina has because we covered it, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.320 But have you seen Descendants? Yeah? 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:52.360 You know the Descendants also tore through my house us time. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.200 They just released a new one and so Indy watched. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:56.960 I think it's the fourth Descendants. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.440 Yeah, and I cannot get behind Descendants well to the 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.159 same degree that I can get behind Zombies. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:04.360 Okay, yeah, I don't know. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:09.480 Descendants just always felt like it should have been a 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.840 feature that was like with a lot more money. I 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.320 don't know, like it always felt like constrained by the 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.200 Disney Channel of it like a. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:19.880 Big Cinderella movie star. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.720 Yeah, it was just too but also just like you 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.600 wanted bigger effects. I wanted the characters to be a 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.000 little more. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.440 Remember it's the Disney Channel. These are not big cinema. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.720 That's what I'm saying is that I think Zombi was 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.440 a better use of you know, limiting at the high 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.000 school for you know, with the Descendants, I wanted to 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.680 be like in the world more. It was a bigger world. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.200 It was like all this like, you know, you had 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.040 to build so much mythology with the Descendants about like 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.440 how they lived on a separate island, you know, whereas 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.000 this it's like you get that animated opening and I'm like, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.320 I'm in, we don't have to leave the high school. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.440 I mean, that's what people are saying. That's why they're 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.160 saying this is a ripoff, because Descendants and Zombies start 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.280 the same way. Essentially, the zombies live on an island 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.880 in Zombie Landing. They're pretty much saying it's the formula 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.400 and they ran with it. But that's what we'll get 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.880 into all that now. It wasn't always prime to be 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.520 a success. Zombies in what we can only call the 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.120 fuzzbucket method. Now, writer will elect you in on fuzz Bucket. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.680 You remember Fuzzbucket, Well, I remembered it, and then you 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.280 started telling me about it. I was like, oh, I 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.600 had no actual recollection of it. Just like that sounds bonkers, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.920 buzzu It was was we we learned. It appeared to 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.320 be made as a pilot, gotcha. And then what happened 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.040 was these pilots that weren't successful on the channel or 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.520 didn't they didn't know what they were going to do 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.880 with they turned them into movies that weren't long enough. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.640 So Michael Eisner would come in himself and record an 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.800 opening introing the movie, and he would like to an 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.760 extra fifteen minutes. It took him, apparently not exaggerating the 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.480 thing we learned, it took him something like fifty takes 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.240 to do the old opening the fuzz Bucket, which was 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.360 the first one that he had ever get. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.600 It's a pretty long monologue, so. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.080 It's just insane him just trying to pump up fuzz Bucket. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.320 But this apparently this was coming. This was what we 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.160 call the fuzz bucket method because Zombies was originally shot 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.520 as a pilot for Disney. The original TV show was 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.120 shot but never aired, and at the time was called 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.720 Zombies and Cheerleaders. And I have to ask, is that 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.559 a better title than just zombies Zombies and Cheerleaders. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.200 No, well, I mean it makes more sense because the 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.120 cheerleaders are just so much in this movie. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:36.960 Says our resident cheerleader. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:38.560 It's just so goad. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.679 I feel like there's a better title that does include 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.160 the fact that they're because like, zombies sounds like a 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.760 horror film, right or right? It's like, yeah, so it 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.840 could have been like zombie cheer or zombie Spirit. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:57.480 Yeah, give me a zombie something, yeah, zombie spectacular something. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.000 Toy that it's not a monster movie, that it's actually 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.440 a high school movie, right, like zombie High Okay, zombie hands, 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.240 ze Town and the cheer leaders, I don't know something. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.559 So that's exactly what they tried with the pilot. So 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.840 the pilot itself starred Luke Benward from the dcom Minutemen Sabrina, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.920 which we of course know well and Girl meets World 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.600 Wrider as z and another familiar name to us. Maya 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.520 Mitchell from Teen Beach Movie played Addison, and these are 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.040 two actors nowhere to be seen in the eventual film 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.600 versions that took off. Oh, so they actually shot it. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.000 They shot it. Something else worth noting. This is the 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.040 first Disney Channel original movie musical to become a franchise 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.440 where none of the main cast members have played a 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.640 main character in a Disney Channel series or a Disney 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.439 Channel animated series prior to the first movie being released. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.440 So everybody in this movie was a newbie to the channel. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.840 They I mean, they might have done something small here, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.760 but they'd never They didn't use any of their stars, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.160 didn't use the synergy, which is kind of strange. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.800 Very strange for the channel. Yes, almost makes it feel 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.920 like it was produced outside of the channel. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.320 We've seen which, right, we've seen that before. We know 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.679 it wasn't, but it doesn't has that feel of this 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.320 isn't going to be one of our bigger ones. It 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.520 didn't work as a pilot. Let's try to get it 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.400 out there and see what happens. Yeah, writer, you always 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.280 talked about and we've talked about this back in the 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.120 day newsies. You know, these kind of old school movies. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.520 If you were back in the you know, it's nineteen 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:26.000 ninety two, you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old, and Disney 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.080 Channel comes to you with the musical big dancing number. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:30.280 Would you have done it? 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.240 Well, okay, there's a very very good answer to this. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.080 I screen tested for Newsies and do you know who 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.320 it was I was up against? 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.960 Were you up against Christian Bale? 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.640 No? I was to play the younger brother. Okay, so 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.080 I got to audition. I actually don't think I auditioned 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.640 with Christian Bale. There were another set of There were 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.760 three older brothers and there were three younger brothers, and 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.160 they kept mixing and matching us and the other two 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.280 younger brothers. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:57.720 That I was up against. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.680 The other one was Luke Edwards who got the part 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.320 and went on to do it. The other one was 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:03.439 mister Ben Savage. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.719 No. It was the first time I met Ben Savage. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.280 Was at Disney lot where they brought us onto the 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.800 lot and we did a full filming to screen test 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.120 for News's. They had a full crew. They shot it 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.120 on thirty five millimeters. It was as if we were 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.680 making the movie for a day, and we took turns 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.400 doing it. And we had to do a wardrobe and costume, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.080 and we had days of singing songs and learning dances 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.520 in order to prep for this filming day. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.640 Then that filming day while. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.319 We started, was the day of beginning of the Gulf War, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.760 of the American involvement in the Golf War. I have 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.320 memories of us sitting around looking. They pulled the TV 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.920 onto the on the Disney lot, and do you remember 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.880 at Disney they used to have the New York Street, 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.640 the old Yeah, that was built and there, and we 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.800 then shot scenes on the Disney lot and I went. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.760 Into the studio. They had a studio teacher. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.320 And they had a classroom, and I went in and 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.240 met Luke Edwards and then met Ben Savage, and Ben 0:12:59.320 --> 0:12:59.480 was the. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.240 I never talked about that when you were doing Boy, like, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:03.720 oh my god. We met on news. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.199 We must have, yeah, because we both remembered having been 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.319 up for it, you know, but neither of us got it, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.320 so it didn't happen. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.679 I So anyway, that's one answer. But the real answer. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.760 Is I was always a horrible dancer and a very 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.280 very average. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.000 To poor singer. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.800 But I was coming off of having done Lames Rob Yeah, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:23.880 and played Gavroge. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:28.280 So I was sort of known you were, okay. 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.679 I mean, well, you know, Gavroche just kind of raps. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.199 He doesn't really sing, he's. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.640 Just so, you know, okay, he's ahead of his t's 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.080 my version. And I was definitely cast for my acting. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.760 You know, I wasn't like I was known in the 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.240 the lay miss circles for being a very good gav 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.040 Roge as far as my attitude. But I was never 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.760 a real singer. And but then because I had done 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.320 La Miz, Yeah, I would always go up for these 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.640 musicals or you know, yeah musicals and this they brought 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.319 me in and I got really close on News's didn't 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.520 get it and then yeah, and then I sort of 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.400 fell into more traditional sitcom acting, which also kind of 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.320 was an offshoot of theater if you think about it, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.640 you know, live audience and being bigger. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.800 Sure, and that's how I found myself on boy Me's 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.880 World eventually, yeh, to be serious. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.800 But yeah, so and then I never once my my 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.240 voice changed and I put that in quotes because I 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.160 still sound like a fourteen year old boy. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.600 Yeah, he sound exactly like you do. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:22.280 What I mean the. 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.200 Difference between eleven and thirteen was great enough that by 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.720 the time we started, boy, I definitely wasn't singing anymore 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.800 at all. I never learned how to dance, so yeah, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.360 I would never have been asked. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.280 You didn't give him any lessons will me on how 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:35.800 to dance? 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.400 Of all my dance history and background. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.600 Preats of dancing, you didn't give him one lesson. God, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:41.720 I know this guy for years. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.360 I did I give him one lesson? It was don't 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.080 listen to me when it comes to anything with dancing. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.200 On Zombies. The production began in May twenty seventeen. By 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.560 the way, Zombies, which is spelled called z dash oh 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.120 dash M dash B dash I dash oh. So it's 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.120 like the letters. It's like cos yes, but it doesn't 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.440 appear to be an acronym for anything. And yet so 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.960 we don't know why. It's like a cheerleader is cheering it. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.560 That's what I'm guessing. Give me an oh, maybe that's what. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.920 Okay, here you go, that's how they incorporated their cheer moment. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.720 Hey, there you go, we just figured it out. The 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.280 coin flip landed on tails this time, so it was 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.040 shot in Toronto instead of Utah. Over ten weeks four 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.600 weeks to rehearse and six weeks to shoot. It aired 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.000 on February sixteenth, twenty eighteen, to just over two point 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.680 five million viewers, which I know that fans of the 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.560 pod here know that that sounds like a really, really 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.840 low number compared to a lot of the other decoms 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.240 we've talked about. But you know, teen beach movies, some 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.960 of these ones from early two thousands will have ten, twelve, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:55.720 fifteen million viewers, which just at this point in the 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.760 modern era of twenty seventeen twenty eighteen just didn't happen anymore, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.280 is not there. There's too much information from too many 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.680 different places in the days of kids sitting down in 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.680 millions of them watching one night were just kind of 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.400 over So two point five million doesn't sound big, but 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.200 it was considered a very big success for the channel, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.080 especially since what they started to do, which was really interesting, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.880 was the entire premiere weekend. It's estimated that nearly thirteen 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.280 million people ended up watching it because they aired it 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.560 ten times over the original premiere weekend. Wheez, Yeah, quite 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.200 a way to bump themselves up. In the Raiders now 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.880 we are covering the original offering, but the zombies franchise 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.640 has three movies out already, with a forthcoming in twenty 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.760 twenty five. There's a new cartoon on Disney, plus a 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.800 tour alongside actors from The Descendants, which was just announced 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.840 at D twenty three Toys Party Supplies Halloween Costumes. The 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.280 list never ends, so to call the series of phenomenon 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.400 would be an absolute understatement, and all from a failed pilot. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.360 Also a bit of a spoiler alert. Zombies three had 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.880 a budget of wait for it, kids forty million dollars 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:05.440 switch is aw d coom record here forty million bucks 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.720 for Zombies three, so the studio was all in. Zombies 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.399 one had how much do you know? 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:12.320 Not that much? 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.240 Not that much? I don't does not look like we don't. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.040 I don't think we have exactly what it was. But 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.760 my guess is if we're right around where they were 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.000 in d coms, it would probably be somewhere around four. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.160 Yeah, that's that looks It looks definitely under tan forest 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.160 tight geez. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.679 For how many numbers there are? Guess, but I'm guessing 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.080 that's that's because when we saw a high school musical 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.840 there were as many numbers, and wasn't that around It 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.119 was about a four million dollar budget. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.919 Yes, yeah, the first one, but all. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.919 Started bumping kids in a in a high school. This 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.320 was not the makeup and everything, so it could have 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.800 been higher, but it certainly wasn't forty, which is just crazy, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.600 as you could probably guess. As one of the most 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.280 popular decoms ever. It's currently viewable on Disney Plus. So 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.200 jump over there now and come back to the podcast, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.800 or just listen to us cold and go kick some rocks. 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.280 Those are your three options. So what did you know 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.359 about We always do this little segment here rider, So 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.720 before today, Sabrina, what did you know about zombies? If 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:07.480 you'd even heard of it? 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:09.040 I had heard of it. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:13.399 The director that did our Cheetah Girls three is Paul Hoan, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.639 who has done the entire series of Zombies, so I 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.520 definitely knew about it. I knew there was cheering involved 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.320 because him and I chatted and he's like, Oh, you 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.960 should come and do some kind of cheercoach thing or 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.400 something or whatever, and I was like, totally, I've never 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.320 seen the movie, but you know, I'm in ycause he's amazing. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.919 So I knew it would be great. But that is it, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.600 And I did know who the main character was. I 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.040 knew that he was from the movie that we've already done. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.040 We both liked prom Packs so much and we both 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.040 called this guy out for how good he was, Yes. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.280 And I knew he was a part of it, did 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.280 not know how talented he was when it comes to 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:53.240 singing and dancing. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:54.720 Damn my god. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:56.360 Yeah, wow. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.800 I think he is definitely the best lead dancer and 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.240