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Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris Johnson. Allen and Chris

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Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and

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Speaker 1: entertainment in the strange. Now here's Chris Johnson. We're now

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Speaker 1: team in the JJ Ride. I'm your host, Chris Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Today the anniversary of work Chamber, had you plant game.

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Speaker 1: You have a very special yes in the building, the

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Speaker 1: founder director and regarded as one of the most influential

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Speaker 1: men in the history of grassroots basketball. Atop Emma is

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Speaker 1: in the building atop what's good man? What up? What up?

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Speaker 1: What up? I love the introduction. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's all that, but well, I mean, you gotta sometimes

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Speaker 1: you gotta keep it real. I heard when I listen

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Speaker 1: to you talk, I hear you talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: flowers and giving people flowers, and you need to be

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Speaker 1: introduced the right way at some point. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like how we as we've gone old there, we think about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the accomplishments of ball players that have that

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Speaker 1: we've you know, watched and been a part of, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't hit you right away how good them dudes

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Speaker 1: were until kind of like later on down the road.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you man, we start looking at

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Speaker 1: your track record, brother, all these guys that you don't

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Speaker 1: sit to college, and now you're making major headway into

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Speaker 1: the league. But first, atop, I wanted to just get

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Speaker 1: a quick thought on one of the game's most dominant players.

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Speaker 1: If we've ever seen Wilt Chamberlain hundred points in the game,

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Speaker 1: seven one, a triple jumper, a high jumper, do you

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Speaker 1: think Wilt would have dominated today's game? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to answer that. With the way

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Speaker 1: the spacing is in the NBA now, and that would

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Speaker 1: be my I mean, obviously in his size, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he probably might have figured that out, um, but it's

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Speaker 1: hard to translate it with with the space and he

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Speaker 1: would have been good obviously, But um, obviously the spacing

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Speaker 1: and and driving and the way the game is and

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Speaker 1: and be to shoot the three. You know, all those

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Speaker 1: things kind of in today's game are a little more

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Speaker 1: important than they were back then. So, um, do I

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Speaker 1: think you've been as dominant? Probably? I don't know how

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Speaker 1: it would have looked though, Yeah, I'm not that's a

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Speaker 1: good question. But so I had the same sort of

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Speaker 1: questions to and you know, I self, immittedly hadn't gone

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Speaker 1: back and watched a ton of Wilke footage from his

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Speaker 1: early years at Kansas and then with Globetrotters and then

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Speaker 1: the first couple of seasons in the league, and which

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Speaker 1: stood out about the guy. Man. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: seven one and he was leading the break. I saw

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Speaker 1: him doing no look a turnaround jumper. I saw him

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Speaker 1: doing Magic Johnson jump in the air, fake fake pass.

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Speaker 1: So I'm seeing all this stuff and I'm just kind

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Speaker 1: of like, I saw him do like step through, up

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Speaker 1: and under. I saw him, and then I really then

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Speaker 1: they're showing me the videos. Man, all his game was

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Speaker 1: bank shots, Like he had this one of the sickest

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Speaker 1: bank shots in the history of basketball before the skyhook.

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Speaker 1: It was the will Like fade away, funny style fade away,

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Speaker 1: but it was shot up Taylor bro Hey with no grip.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he taped his ankles with no grip

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Speaker 1: with the thing flipping up. I mean, come on, man Hey,

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Speaker 1: but that But listen, when we talk about big men,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about the evolution of big man, we

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Speaker 1: got to talk about Evan Moble and this is a

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Speaker 1: kid that was in your program since day one. Talk

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Speaker 1: about Evan as the front runner for the Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Year, his development and what he can be, if

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Speaker 1: that that makes any sense at all. What he can be,

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Speaker 1: he's already something, but what he can be as far

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Speaker 1: Um people. Um, I remember, I felt that he's too soft,

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Speaker 1: people felt too skinny. People thought, I mean, it's whatever

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Speaker 1: mean we saw it because the time, you know, remember

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Speaker 1: don't remember if you remember a kid named Ben Todd,

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Speaker 1: nobody knew who everon was. But um, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: to evaluate was the quickness of his jump. And when

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Speaker 1: you know, Sean Marian was was lethal. But his second

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Speaker 1: And you jump like that, no no matter what's your size,

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Speaker 1: So he started getting to the the rim. I see how

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Speaker 1: his quick twitch was crazy quick quick. Yeah, so, oh man,

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Speaker 1: He was already a great shooter. He already had great

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Speaker 1: it was that easy for him. What are you attribute

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Speaker 1: development wasn't all just you know, jump in there and

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Speaker 1: They weren't. They weren't wavering, like they weren't doing it

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Speaker 1: just for like show. Yeah, I mean like they're really

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Speaker 1: the kids love the hoop. They both loved the hoop.

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Speaker 1: That's another thing too, some people don't like they love

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Speaker 1: So we're in Vegas, uh for the I believe for

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Speaker 1: and I just got a chance to watch um Evan compete.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so yeah, that's where I saw. I was

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Speaker 1: but so we were there and we saw Evan. I

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Speaker 1: how how quickly he's adjusted, or did you kind of

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Speaker 1: They were already used I don't know if you remember,

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Speaker 1: they were already using him like they used him now.

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Speaker 1: initiating offense. They were doing a lot of ship with

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Speaker 1: I mean. But confidence, a confidence to develop. No, But

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Speaker 1: what I will say is this, this is the and

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Speaker 1: things that everybody underestimated in college. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw that earlier the season they start charting

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Speaker 1: that stat about um shots that he altered but he

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Speaker 1: But remember like Evan doesn't he's just out there hooping

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Speaker 1: and bawling. Like defensively, he's really good. Most guys in

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Speaker 1: The reason Cleveland had a great turnaround too. Obviously, Darris

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Speaker 1: Garland has been unbelievable. Um, some of the other kids

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Speaker 1: not just trying to block shots. He's going after everything.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're running the perimeter, he's chasing you. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's chasing everything. So he don't know no better yet

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Speaker 1: like these other dudes who to sit around and don't

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Speaker 1: play like he's playing. He's trying to chase shooters, he's switching,

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Speaker 1: the game, me and the cole Mobili were talking about this.

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Speaker 1: Me and the Cole Mobili were talking about how when

427
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: the kids were young, when they're in the eighth ninth grade,

428
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: they were nobody's all of them, like none of them. Remember,

429
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you who the guys were. When those

430
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: guys are coming up Cash just Stanley, Cody, Riley, those

431
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: were the top ranked kids. They were number one, you know,

432
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: those those are the blue chippers, you know what I mean.

433
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: Our kids were the second group of kids. So it's

434
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: like they've all been in a place of being severely

435
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 1: undervalued at some point. And I think that's a good driver.

436
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, fact fact, And I think

437
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: that I mean again, and remember too, you know, we

438
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: have a lot of connective tissue on social media, so

439
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: our kids motivate each other, like all those kids, like

440
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: they're watching what everyone's doing, and everybody loves each other.

441
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: But it's even though they love each other, you know,

442
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: he's doing this, I'm trying to do this like you know,

443
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: even when I was in there, I was in Arizona

444
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: State to see them. I played U C l A

445
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: and I ran into Neil at a breakfast spot and

446
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: Dayalen had just played well and they were talking about

447
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: how he's the ultimate blue guy in the country. And

448
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: I was telling Neil before you know, before Geno exploded.

449
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: I was like, look, Neil, like this is like Daylas

450
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: laying the blueprint for us too. Like Jayleen is gonna

451
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: get to the NBA the same way now maybe I mean,

452
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: like the same way he's gonna get there, Like he

453
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: can do the same thing that Daylas doing. Daylans made

454
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: it sexy, did not I have to score? It's crazy,

455
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy. That's amazing. It's amazing that the NBA guys

456
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: love daln Lo Hun Like it's gonna get interested. Who

457
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: they who do they compareing to her? Who do they

458
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: give you kind of a comp when they talk about

459
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: when they ask you, when they talk about dayling to you,

460
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: who do they come from to do? To them? They

461
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: don't even have that yet, like they're just trying to figure.

462
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: They just go like where this he's came out of nowhere?

463
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I think it's kind

464
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: of like for me, could it be Rande House Jefferson,

465
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: But I mean it's not too. I don't think so,

466
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: because I know I know Rande too, and I know

467
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Daylyn because Daylyn, listen, remember we played Dale at the point,

468
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: Dale the point guard. They don't point. He played point

469
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: for us strictly point like nothing else like they play

470
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: him on. They play him kind of just as a

471
00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: as an all over god over. But like Daylan's that's trade.

472
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: He's a great passer. He's on his hands great you

473
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: you know, so, I think um, and I think they

474
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: show they show enough of that where people can see

475
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: that a little bit. But that's really a strength, Like

476
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: his strength is, you know, with the ball in his hands,

477
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: seeing people, finding people, and obviously being all those great

478
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: glue traits, being a great teammate, being a great kid

479
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: is length. And now the thing that I think is

480
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: really intrigued people as he's become more explosive. Mm hm, oh,

481
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, So it's it's it's

482
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: exciting these kids, man, both those kids. I get so

483
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: excited about both of those kids because I feel like

484
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: I saw that coming. I didn't see it. Daylon's coming

485
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: as soon and Jalen's coming as soon. I knew Jalens

486
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: would come when all these dudes left, you see legs.

487
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: I think I thought next year Jalen would just go

488
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: crazy because he'd had the roadway with the other guys gone,

489
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, a longer leash. But

490
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, as glad that wick Mick saw the light,

491
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, quick and early. You're now

492
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: he's getting super burned. But she still. I mean, there's

493
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: Isaiah Mobley at s C, who was one of the

494
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, best all around talents in all of college basketball.

495
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: Timmy Allen down in Texas Jusang obviously U c l A.

496
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, do you feel like, with so many

497
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: guys in college that eventually make the league, do you

498
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: feel like people view you you guys sort of have

499
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: a bulls eye now on your chest that you might

500
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: have not had before the summer ten thousand and eighteen

501
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: or is it the same? Remember I'm gonna go back.

502
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: So two thousand and ten, we were we had Johnny Carson,

503
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: gave York, Isaiah Austin, Norville Pale, Wesley Saunders, a Skia booker,

504
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: Mike Caffey, and our team was the best team. Well

505
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: there's two teams. It was us in the open Soldiers.

506
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: So everyone wants to see that game because because they

507
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: had Nick Johnson, they had um, oh gosh, I can't

508
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: I can't remember the kids they had, but they had

509
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: they had um, Aaron Gordon, I want to say Aaron

510
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: Gordon at the time. But they had a whip to like,

511
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: so they had like six or sept that We had

512
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: our group. They had their group, and you know, obviously

513
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: we were dominating in Indidas. They were dominated Nike, and um,

514
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: we were we were tagged back then, I mean like

515
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: we were. We were just remember we're coming off we

516
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: had that year. The year before we had Alan Crab

517
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: and Bryce Jones, Richard Solomon. The year before we had

518
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: Joe Burton, Xavier Thames. So that that two thousand eight

519
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: year submitted we made the championship. That year we would

520
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: triple overtime against grass Roots Canada with Tristan Thompson, Brady

521
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: has slip Um, Dwight pale Um. So we that year

522
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight when we made the championship and

523
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: that game with the triple overtime, that was the point

524
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: where I feel like we became March. Then two thousand nine,

525
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: crab Um Kareem Jamaar Deonte Burton, Like, we have three

526
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Conference players of the Year on that team, you know

527
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, the Whack Player Year, the Big Sky

528
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, in the PAC twelve Player of

529
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: the Year, and you had three. I thought I saw

530
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: somewhere you had three at the top leading scorer in

531
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: the Pack and the PAC ten one year Roberto joh

532
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: and one more player. You had like one, two and three.

533
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: We're all kinds and like we're already having like it

534
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: down when we were holding it down. Is like the

535
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: underdog cute team. You know, we're kind of still the underdog,

536
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: but we put the work. Yeah, we had great players.

537
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: Though we had great we were we were we were

538
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: on the Pack twelve. We had to pack to a

539
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: Freshman of the year, pack to a player of the year.

540
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, we were we were doing some noise in

541
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: the pack swell back then with some some of our guys.

542
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: But you know, I would say back to your original

543
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: question with um the way our guys go back to

544
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: that question again, so I can I can, ye know.

545
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: It was just like, I mean, you feel like people

546
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: coming at you guys more now or less or is

547
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: it are you in different Were they coming at you

548
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: with the same Veracini furiosity as they were now? They're

549
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: crazy because now we're social media. Back then there wasn't

550
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: my social media, so now it's like social media. But

551
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: the reality of it is, Chris, we got a formula, man,

552
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: like the people ain't just me. It's like I got

553
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: people in my group like that. They all have their

554
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: own context too, and and everyone is really working their

555
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: ass off for kids. So you'll see me like last

556
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: night I was a senior night with Timmy Allen, you

557
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like and then not last night,

558
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: night before last, and then last night I fly back home,

559
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I go straight to the game with Dalen and Isaiah.

560
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: But my point to you is that there's things that

561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: we're doing, um functionally behind closed doors that I feel,

562
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: uh helps our kids once they get to college. See,

563
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys in AU they play games,

564
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: they go and listen. I'm never gonna fall anyone for

565
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: helping kids, you know what I mean, anyone who is

566
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: helping kids, I'm with that. Like, I mean, there's a

567
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: different level of helping kids, right, anyone's helping kids, I'm

568
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: great with that. Like whether you're a lower level team,

569
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: a high level team, whatever it is. But like, I think,

570
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: the one thing that really really separates what we are

571
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: compared to most. I'm not gonna say, oh, I'm gonna

572
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: say most, is that as soon as the ball stops

573
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: for them in high school, we're just as involved in

574
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: their transition in college as we are as they are

575
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: in high school. And that's why you see a lot

576
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: of our kids are successful. How So, talk about how

577
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: you're involved, how you get involved with your guys after

578
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: they're done whooping. So it's like this, So imagine me.

579
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: So if I'm in Texas and how many times have

580
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: I been Timmy's game this year? I don't know. I've been.

581
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: I was in Texas Gonzaga, I was in Texas Texas Tech.

582
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: I've been in Austin at least three or four times.

583
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: But Obviously when you're doing that, when you're going to

584
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: shoot around, when you're at team meal, you're developing relationships

585
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: with those coaching staffs organically. So like at that point,

586
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: are they rooting for you? Yeah? Probably, you know what

587
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean? When that code Like at the at the

588
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, like if if if all things

589
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: are given equal, what's gonna happen? You know what I mean?

590
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: So is your kids gonna get a little more rope? Probably?

591
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, But it is all those relationships building exercises

592
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: that are going on. However they're going on, whether it's

593
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: on my dime, however it's happening, or whether it's due

594
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: to my experience that I've been around forever and known

595
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: these dudes forever, and they feel comfortable, you know what

596
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean. Um, but that experience, those level of relationships

597
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: definitely helps the kids when they go to those coaches,

598
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Like I've known mc cronin since remember mccronin coach Ellis

599
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Miles of Louisville in two thousand three. Me and Mick

600
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: ain't the first row I've known Mick forever. That's that

601
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: that you bring up a good point about relationships, cultivating

602
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: relationships and then when you say on your own dime,

603
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize that a lot

604
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: of what you accomplish in basketball, it's a lot of

605
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: it's based on your own dime, Like you gotta go

606
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: out and get it. Like you look at some of

607
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: the top scouts in the world, they are playing for

608
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: trips to look the way there. They're paying their own

609
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: way to rush you to go see some guys to

610
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: think right up about, you know, put out there on

611
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: their own time. So that part of it, I feel

612
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: like is is you know, to be commended. I also

613
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: noticed and see a lot of activity that you do

614
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: in the community and on social media, And why is

615
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: that such an important cause for you? Because you seem

616
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: that seems to be one of your true passions outside

617
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: of basketball, right am? I right on? That are my

618
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: main passion apply more than basketball? I just you know what, man,

619
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: As you get older, like I felt like, I think

620
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: when I got my mid forties I'm fifty two now.

621
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: When I got my mid forties, I felt like we

622
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: had done pretty good at basketball. I felt like we

623
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: were close to being like you know, hey, we've done

624
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: a good job of kids, and we had our machine

625
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: is rolling, and I really felt like, you know how

626
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: much like when I die, like how people are gonna

627
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: remember me? Like what you know how it is men

628
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Like like people been dying, Like a lot of people

629
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: in my life been dying, and it's kind of like, Um,

630
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: you go to the funeral, you know, you cry, you know,

631
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: and then um, ship people just move on, you know,

632
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, Um, I'm not saying that

633
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: I want people to lastly remember me, but I want to.

634
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: I want to have something that people say, you know,

635
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: ship man, that dude made a difference. And I feel

636
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: like that's really hard to do. I feel like having

637
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: people feel like that, it's really hard to do. Like

638
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to do a lot of

639
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: work for someone to say like that that guy was impactful,

640
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's my drive behind

641
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the community work is my personal legacy, you know, even

642
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: though it's it's obviously it's a coupled with count of magic,

643
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: and it's coupled with hopefully my kids are successful enough

644
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: for me to have a bigger voice right are, for

645
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: me to be able to attach more resources somewhere. It's

646
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: a men's it's a it's a it's a means to

647
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: an end, right, So it's like, can I hopefully attached

648
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: these recent versus and do more work in the community

649
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: outside of basketball, Like there's so many things that like

650
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to do obviously that I can't afford

651
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: to do at this point, but I'm I'm working on

652
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: it um to promote that legacy and create that legacy. Man,

653
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's just and it's an ongoing war. I

654
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: called because it's like, you know, the war is is

655
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: to get people in places that me nor you usually

656
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: can get to to invest in our communities. They you

657
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So do you don't know? Listen,

658
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: community work doesn't necessarily mean you need money because there

659
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: we do a lot of community projects that don't call

660
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: for funding. You know, still things you can do that

661
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: can help your community without funding. Like we've done diaper

662
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: drives where we just put on social media like hey,

663
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: like can you donate diapers and we get like fifty

664
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: tho diapers the community organization and Compton. But we've done

665
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: all kinds of unique book drives, you nique, things that

666
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: didn't cost much money, but they're still like, you know,

667
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: the the goal would be I feel to to to

668
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: get a nice um bag of resources to be able

669
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: to cultivate your your legacy play in the community, you know,

670
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: and that's obviously an ongoing battle for anybody trying to

671
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: do community work. And but I've seen you, um you

672
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: had you had the Adida's legacy situation a few years ago.

673
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: I've seen you do food drives. Yeah, I'm still going.

674
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: I've seen you do different food drives around the holidays,

675
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it was a Turkey giving away.

676
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: You're giving away clothes, you're giving away all types of stuff,

677
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: and you're passing out stuff. But the thing I love

678
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: about it you get all your kids involved, all the

679
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: guys in the magic get an idea, in a sense

680
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: of perspective of what it's like not to have. You're

681
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: now balancing this life of glorious a you high level

682
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: hoops with a dose of reality on occasion. Why do

683
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: you feel like that's important to expose the kids too

684
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: to well, I want to say something. I hope you

685
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: can see this. I don't know it gonna work. If

686
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: I do this, you're just showing to the to the screen.

687
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: We can probably see it. Happy to be home, Happy,

688
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: to be with us, you know, helping out the Salvation Army.

689
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: I am. The kids are competent, born and raised. Baby, yes, baby,

690
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: look at look at Asaiah, look at your yes on

691
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: the on the screen. We have a video of some

692
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: community where they took the competent managed it. Look you

693
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: every ninth grade Salvation Army. That's a competent Yeah, yeah,

694
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: for sure. Now that's good stuff to look Brade, that's

695
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: good stuff. No, absolutely that and that it's our kids

696
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: have been there, like it's not like we're just talking

697
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: it like that's a video when those kids were young.

698
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Those kids were like in the ninth grade, nine, eighth,

699
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: ninth grade back then, and their families were there. They

700
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: were there, and I think even regardless of nowadays, I

701
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: don't feel like I feel like most of our kids

702
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: aren't in those type of situations. They're just not right.

703
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: So it's really important that they see it. My initial

704
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: competent kids were all in that situation when I was

705
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: first and competent, I everybody was in that situation. And

706
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: then obviously, um as we graduated to the more current times, UM,

707
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: I feel like most people are in a little bit

708
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: better situations, um um, but still it's it's very important

709
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: that you remind them of how fortunate they are, whatever

710
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: level of fortunate they are, you know. Always, Fox Sports

711
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712
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714
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: s R to listen live. You've been in the game

715
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: a long time time, my man, and you're responsible sitting

716
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: a lot of kids to college. You've been dealing with

717
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: these coaches and the recruiting side of things, UH since

718
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: the nineties and probably earlier than that. Actually, I don't

719
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: want to date you, but um, what do you think

720
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: about Let me ask you this. Do you think that

721
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: the n i L, the transfer portal and the ability

722
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: to reclassify is is good for the game or it

723
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: is hurting the game college basketball? I don't know the

724
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: answer to that. Obviously, the pandemic is changed the landscape

725
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: immensely because obviously teams want to be older, you know.

726
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I watched UH Texas Baylor the

727
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: other night and Baylor won a national championship last year,

728
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: replaced their backcourt with a Ken Joe and the other

729
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: kid who so John the green hair for him too.

730
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: And there's another backcourt kid who came from a smaller

731
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: school who's really ninety in that game. But we really

732
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: replaced their back court and are capable of having a

733
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: run again. Absolutely, Now can you do that high school players?

734
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: They got Kiante George coming in possibly, but probably the

735
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: answer is, I don't know. You know, so that portal

736
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: has made a lot of the bigger schools and the

737
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: schools that would normally recruit a top level high school

738
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: player or even get a high school player late, like

739
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: those high school players have no opportunities. At the end,

740
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna see prep schools blossom. You're gonna see all

741
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: that happened because dude is going to be older. Basically,

742
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: the high school kid that the super the senior, the

743
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: five star senior is looked at a little bit uh

744
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: less favorably than say an older kid that has some

745
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: college basketball experience, or a prep school kid that is

746
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: a little bit older nineteen and has a year again

747
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: on the prep circuit. Why why those kids? Why is

748
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: that better? I don't think I don't think it's affective

749
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: that the the elite, the super eleague kid. I think

750
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: it's the kid below that, right, the super eleague kid

751
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: from one of twenty I think is still fine. The

752
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: guys are gonna do that. But when it gets to

753
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: the level below that, it gets dicey, because who are

754
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: you gonna pick from a portal guy who's averaged twenty

755
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: and been through it at the college level or a

756
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: high school guy who's questionable and in his transition, you

757
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that's that? I mean, like

758
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with the older guy, you know, and

759
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: that before like Juco guys you know obviously aren't sexy.

760
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Portal guys are when you can transfer to bionable right away,

761
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: like you you can really watching guys better work at

762
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: whatever school he was. You see a lot of these

763
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: lower level guys that lower Division one schools that are

764
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: transferring up and having huge success because they're fucking good players,

765
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, two players all over the place,

766
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: and they probably are better than some of the players

767
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: you recruited that you just didn't see it. You know,

768
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: there's so many of them, Like I'm gonna use a

769
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: kid for example, like he's gonna go to New Mexico's

770
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: names Donovan Dent and Donovan dn plays for Corona Centennial

771
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: and Donovan Dent a bad dude, like he's gonna go

772
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: to New Mexico and impact right away, Like he's gonna

773
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: be on the floor right away, and people are gonna say, well,

774
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: who the hell is that? And that happens, you know,

775
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 1: but how do you how do you discern the right fit?

776
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: I mean as a as as the director when you're

777
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: when you got your guys that are getting recruited, how

778
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: do you sit down with them guys and what does

779
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: the conversation go like when you're talking about fit in

780
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: a particular school, coaching style, etcetera. So you know, for me,

781
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: it depends on your level of talent. But my selfis

782
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: like I had a meeting with one of the better parents,

783
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: is a kind of a freshman on Sunday night, and

784
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: I was recruited and I had a little computer. I

785
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: was talking to him and um, you know my I said,

786
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: listen for me. Like, as I'm recruiting a kid, I'm like, hey,

787
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, like you, I feel like he has a

788
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: chance to be one of the pillars of our program.

789
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: And the pillars of our program have all been getting drafted.

790
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean like that, that's how me.

791
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Having this conversation with you lets you know that you're different,

792
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: because I and I feel that you're different. And my

793
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: speech to him was like, listen, it's like we have

794
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: a group of kids and we're trying to we're trying

795
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: to get the most we can out of everybody's brand

796
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: one through nine, one through eight, one through nine, whatever

797
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: that is. And selfishly, you're gonna make wanna make sure

798
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: that your kid gets what he needs to get you wanna.

799
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to maximize everything he can give you,

800
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: whether it's he's gonna be a high level college player

801
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: or a high level pro whatever it is he's gonna be,

802
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: whatever it is his talents are gonna take him to.

803
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: We want to be able to maximize that, right, And

804
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: there's so many things that go into that equation. Parents

805
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: don't quite understand that. They think it's just like, oh,

806
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna go play and my kids nice. No, you know,

807
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with like Paul being Cardi and

808
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: Eric Bossi and giving you that lane just in case

809
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: that lane opens up for you. Right then, hopefully you're

810
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: a kid who will have choice, and by choice, I

811
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: mean when you go to college, you want to go

812
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: to school where whatever level that is, where you have

813
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: a chance to play right away. If you're not playing

814
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: right away, it's tough. It's tough. I'm not saying going

815
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: against not you. You know you're fighting and all that.

816
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool, but but but you do wanna All

817
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: the things that we're doing are to leverage you to

818
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: get on the floor as fast as you can. That's

819
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: the player right unless you're ever Mulbi. Now I'm trying

820
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: to play you in the league. Like there's different levels

821
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: of this, but you have to have these conversations early, Prince,

822
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that is there special and

823
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: do you have the conversation with these elite kids about

824
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: leads like the G League overseas or the Overtime Elite

825
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: League as a potential option to continue their basketball playing career.

826
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: Having that, we have a kid in called Pete right

827
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: now who's gonna who I believe will be number I

828
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: believe in my experience, he's like Tod's gotta get better

829
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: and he's got to work like everybody else. But I

830
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: believe has a chance to be one of the top

831
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: players regards to class. Where is he from Hawaii? From Arizona, Arizona. Okay,

832
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: and you're saying, so what you're saying that he has

833
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: some opportunities or you have this conversation with him, because

834
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be the best player in the country

835
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: regards the class. That's who it is. He continues to

836
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: develop at the rate he has been developing, like he's

837
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a super special player and already happen those

838
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: conversations with his parents and what's that? I mean, what's

839
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: what's that? And they got a guy like yourself. What

840
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: is your sort of advice or how do you advise

841
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: parents that are in that position? That's a unique position.

842
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: You have a league that's paying high school kids a

843
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, You got the G League. I don't know

844
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: what there to more than that, more than that depending

845
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: on who you are. And then you have college for

846
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, you can get your education paid for. How

847
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: do you direct or how do you advise? I'll say advice.

848
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Speaker 1: The problem with him is he's on he just turned fifteen,

849
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: he's fourteen yea and we just turned fifteen. But he's

850
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: six eight to twenty athletics. Hell, he's like he's special.

851
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: So the problem is is that Obviously when you're that good,

852
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: everyone's calling them already like the people are already like happening,

853
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's you've got to get

854
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: ahead of it. That's not I mean, like all those

855
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: people that you're talking about business for them, for me

856
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: like a glorified hobby that I've been able to do

857
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: and survive. For them, it's like their job, right, So

858
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: they're trying to get ahead of this thing I'm not

859
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna name, like all the other people, like the agencies

860
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: and the money guys and all these type of things,

861
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: like it's it's already happening if you don't jump ahead

862
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: of it. It's like you know, in a n i

863
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: L has gave those guys the roadway for that to

864
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: be okay, and it isn't fascinating. It's fascinating to see

865
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: that how the n i L has been working, especially

866
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: for these big, big agencies and certain companies that are

867
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: allowed to have an n i L sort of wing

868
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: or section in their agency as the grooming ground obviously

869
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: to try to retain some of the services. So that's fascinating.

870
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: But to as we're talking about all this stuff, you know,

871
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: college basketball, I'm thinking back to what two thousand nineteen

872
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: to college basketball scandal. Do you feel like the fallout

873
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: from the scandal has changed the way businesses operated in

874
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: college basketball or is it relatively unaffected despite the two

875
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen scandal. I'm bothered by because you know,

876
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: obviously Tony Blinds a friend of mine to coach my

877
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: team this year day eighteen. Yeah, Like for me, it's

878
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: like it's like you did that. All that happened because

879
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: they spent so much money. I'm trying to catch somebody,

880
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: like they're trying to bait everybody, you know what I mean.

881
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: And then now it doesn't matter, like those guys all

882
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: lost their careers and lives. Nothing really changed for a

883
00:45:51,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: year later. It's a mean nothing. That's it's terrible. It's terrible.

884
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: And I know Book and all the guys are it's terrible,

885
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Like irregardless of of how people look at what happened,

886
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: it's like them singling out those four black dudes and

887
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: and and when come on, man, like just come on.

888
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: And then now a year later, everything is legal, like

889
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: they you can pay a player. Yeah, it's it's it's

890
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's almost surreal. It's almost surreal because

891
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: this is because I had a book on the show,

892
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: and and you know book, you know, he's a straight shooter.

893
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: He was just talking about how he was just trying to,

894
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, do what he could to take care of

895
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: the kids, help and these are kids that were going without.

896
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: It's not like these are kids that just had surplus

897
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: of three sources and their daddy playing in the league

898
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: and they got all this type of money and books

899
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: want to us. Absolutely, he's he's a real He's what

900
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: about all these other guys, Like, you know what I mean,

901
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, bro, Yeah, yeah, that they picked

902
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: the they picked, they picked the dudes. It's just it's

903
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: it's it's it's crazy, man, I just it's it's really unfortunate.

904
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: It is it is time means everything really unfortunate. Um.

905
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: The great thing is is Tony show clauses up in

906
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: a couple of in a year and I had like,

907
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, Tony will get back in Um yeah, he

908
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: just he just won uh the section championship at St.

909
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Bernard's Right. Oh, he's awesome, man, He's an awesome, awesome dude.

910
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, man, he's gonna be

911
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: a shiny star. I don't think that's gonna I don't

912
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: think it might be. It might have been at the

913
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: time of Crutch, but you know, maybe at as he

914
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: moves forward, it will be a blessing. And finally, and finally, finally,

915
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: my man, I just wanted to I know, I know

916
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: you've got a million things to do. I got you

917
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: on here a little long, but I wanted to ask

918
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: you about the n C Double A Tournament March Madness

919
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: and just get your You know, I know you've got

920
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the tournament, so we won't

921
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: hold your answer against you. Who you like to make

922
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: it to the final four this year? The teams? Who's

923
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: your final four? Hey, Arizona, Texas, U C l A,

924
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Texas and USC that's my four? And get and guess

925
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be the Chris Johnson correspondent. Hey, we

926
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: are excited about that. Last year I asked locker Rooms,

927
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: Third Dinners inside a Chris Johnson Live, Toby Toby and

928
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson Live. Hey, wait, baby, you're looking forward to it.

929
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be popping this March atop. Thank you so much,

930
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: my man, for joining the show. Bro appreciate you, and

931
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna get it cracking. This march Man is my correspondent.

932
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: I say something, no, brother, Chris Johnson fans, Hey, y'all

933
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: gotta give my guy his flowers. Chris Johnson. I'm so

934
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: proud this dude and how post she's become and just

935
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: taking this whole platform from really from no thing. I

936
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: think he was in his apartment just like pandemic, you know,

937
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: like talk And I told Chris, I said, yo, I said,

938
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: you're like you got a career, Like you're good, Like

939
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: you need to be on TV or something. I know

940
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: you used to be on T You're on TV. You

941
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: were doing something a little bit a little bit on TV.

942
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: But like I really saw your talent in this, even

943
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: though I think you just did it because you loved

944
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: it and you did it because you know what, I'm

945
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna do something different and make a difference or whatever.

946
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: But like, kudos where you're bringing this thing, man, because

947
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: I think you got a real big future in this.

948
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, my brother, ladies and gentlemen. He took

949
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: ludu Emma