1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the NFL Player's Podcast. I'm in his weeds, 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: like literally hanging out with Lionel. That's right, Shelly R. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Let's say it again, Jelly road dope. And it's an 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: exciting story because not only did he play on one 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: of the best defenses two thousand of Ravens defenses in 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: NFL history, he's literally allowing us to be exposed to 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: the pollent that he's facing now, and we are all 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: in agreement that he will have a kidney donor. Short. 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Let's listen in, Lionel, It's an honor to be on 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: with you with this podcast. I'll just I'll just tie 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: to this portion of the urgency, kind of like that 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: two thousand defense, y'all too. It will assist burdens. So 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about football travel and your incredible journey 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: to find to this one. But first let's talk about 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: your kidney and the time is of essence. So here's 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: my first take us through your current your current health 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: situation and how important it is to find a kidney 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: donor for you. Okay, um, how important it is king 19 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: on it. And I found out that I had Kidy 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: Dines out January. We had just moved to Atlanta and 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: we threw a New Year's Eve party. About three o'clock 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: in the morning, I woke up so like I was drowning. 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm walking across the street. I actually drove across the 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: street to the fire station, and my blood pressure was 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: at a stroke level and my auction level was very low. 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: They rested me to your hospital. After running tests for 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: a few days, they tell me my kidneys were functioning 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: at seventeen and I need to get on emergency of 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: dialysis as soon as possible. Ever since then, I've been worried. 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: I've been on dialysis since January. Now, with dialysis, the 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: longer you own it, the more it breaks down the body, 32 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: so it takes protein and thanks the muscles cause an 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: issue with the bone break. It so important to try 34 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: to get a kiddy as soon as possible. I know. 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: When it comes down to Living Legacy, what's the story 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: about you finding the old business card in the plaque? Yeah. 37 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Living Legacy is a company that I worked with when 38 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: I was in Baltimore. I did a public service announcement 39 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: for them. One of the young lady who was an 40 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: intern there called me back, and her name was Leslie, 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: and she sent me up with an interview with Good 42 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Money in America, and so I got I was on 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the one in America and that's when I had my 44 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: first living donor, someone trying to donate living kid in 45 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: and then we saw a response from that. Then we've 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: been just constantly um reaching out and trying to speak 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: on other people's platforms to get the word out. Well, now, 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: when you said a living donor, what does at me? 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: They are a match or a perspective man. There's two 50 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: types of donors. You have the deceased donor, which is 51 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: happening on someone is in a car accident and they 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: decide or some type of accident and they decide they 53 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: want to donate the organs um. Once they passed those kidneys, 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: usually I have you in the hospital for a couple 55 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: of weeks because they're trying to revive the kidney, and 56 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: those kidneys usually last ten to fifteen years. If you know, 57 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: have a good diet and then you take care of 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: yourself and take your medication that's prescribed. Then you have 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: the living donors that come from directly from somebody who's alive, 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: and those keep you in the hospitals. Two to three days, 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: but two to six days depending on how you know 62 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: how soon it starts to your body adapted your body, 63 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: UM takes takes on the kidney and um, those kidneys 64 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: can last twenty years to infinity. I got I know. 65 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I met a guy, Um, he's had a living done, 66 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: this kidney has been He's at a kidney for almost 67 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: thirty five years. So it depends how you take care 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: of yourself. But the living kidneys, you have a better 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: chance of longevity with the living kid living donors. So 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: after you got out, you got the word out this 71 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: spring and this summer. What has been the reaction from 72 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: legends and players current place. I've had a lot of 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: guys reached out to him. Me. I had Marvin Lewis called, 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: never talked to him in a long time. We were 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, old games and games that I 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: played well and talk to people like, um, can we 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: commant you played for the Chiefs with me and the Buffalo? 78 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Have people like Eric Warfield reach out to me. I 79 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: had Shannon Sharp, I'm talking to him on Twitter. He 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: told me he's gonna challenge me to a bench press 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: contest once I get my kidney. So guys has been 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: reaching out to me, you know, and they know I 83 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: was a joke and when I when I played, So 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: guys been sending me videos franking jokes, and you know 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: it's been real supporter and I really really appreciated it. 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: Are you saying to us on this podcast you were 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: a bigger joke? Uh, Sharon Sharp? Yeah, I was one man. 88 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: We were probably neckingnect well on the Baltimore Ravens. You know, 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: we had a lot of comedians. It's also Marvin Lewis 90 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: called me and my friends the young when we've always 91 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: cracked jokes, pick on the rookies. Um, it was you know, 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I was that guy. I enjoyed, you know, picking on 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: the rookies and that was just my personality. And we 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: always um, I did a lot of the practical jokes. 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: I used to tape up the rookies and throw them 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: in the code, or put out I see hatting someone's um, 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, underpass they were going to work before practice. 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Or we will put like um like black ink in 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: their helmets and they go out to practice and ink 100 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: and fall over their face. So we did a lot 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: of different things. So how could people help say why 102 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: on life? In other words, finding the donor or encouraging 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: others to become a donor. You go to my website 104 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: new Kidney for jelly roll dot com. You can click 105 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: on the link if you want to be a donor. 106 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: But there's also information you can air on your social 107 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: media platforms. So there's also another program. If you're you're 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: not in a match with me, you can swap your 109 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: kidney for somebody has to match with me and they 110 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: who can use yours. So I'm an old negative. So 111 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: if you are older, and if you are a you 112 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: can give you you can donate your kidney to somebody 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: else who needs a a and if they have, oh, 114 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: they can donate that to me. So I've had a 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: young lady in Baltimore actually um signed up for that. 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: So I got a few things in to work. I'm 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: praying and hopefully everything works out. All right, We're in 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the pandemic eighteen months ago. How has 119 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: it been You are just even in the middle of 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: a pandemic. In other words, talk about the support you've 121 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: got from your wife and your family, especially during this 122 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: It was tough and I was in hospital and I 123 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: couldn't have any you know, visitors, and then I called wonder. 124 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I was in hospital one time for a couple of 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: weeks and I'm catching COVID in the hospital. So I'm 126 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: in the hospital. I can't it's COVID. I'm dealing with 127 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: these kidney shoes. I'm like frightening. I'm telling why, get 128 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: my affairs in order. It's just for everybody, they really 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: knew how to treat COVID. It was. It was nerve 130 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: wracking dealing with the with the kidney disease and and 131 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: dealing with the pandemic. It was stressful on my family 132 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: because they couldn't come in the high spital to see me, 133 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: so pretty much did everything on zoom, and it was 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: it was rough because I couldn't see my kids on 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: my family anything you were sharing with legends as well 136 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: as maybe even current players being in this situation, being 137 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: in the hospital catching COVID, thinking that you needed to 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: get your affairs at or from that experience, Is there 139 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: any wisdom you would share with us that will give 140 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: us maybe more of a sister urgency, will get our 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: affairs and don't be too tough to treat. Take take 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: your blood pressure medic case because blood have blood pressure 143 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: leads to kidney disease automent oud Offers took a lot 144 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: of medications when we playing. Get your kidneys checked regularly, 145 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: but just definitely stay on top of your kidney house 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: and get tranked regularly, because do you put your body 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: too that it's a chance that you can you can 148 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: develop this disease. Is there anything that you learned while 149 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: playing the game of football that you're drawing on now 150 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: as you go through the this particular challenge in your life. Man, 151 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: how's a great question, um old Colt. Actually I went 152 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: to I used to have bad plays, and question told 153 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: me one plan of time to get about to get 154 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: about the last play because you repeat the same mistake. 155 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: So with me, I wake up. I take each day 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: one day at a time. Some days I have bad days, 157 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: some days I have good days. But I wake up 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: assuming I might have a good day. Position because I 159 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: have to talk about this phenomenal defense. I just heard 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: Shannon talking to Skip about it undisputed uh this morning 161 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and he said, how against your defense? They were just 162 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: hoping to get a first down in practice? And he 163 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: really so talking about football, you had a long career, 164 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl at a Yeah, my son is 165 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: almost Man, you didn't realize that. Man, I just ignore it, 166 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: like in my mind, I'm still thirty. I got he 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: describe your role within one of the greatest defenses in 168 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: NFL history. Man Um, intensity, perfection, accountability. We didn't need 169 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: the coaches, you know, we had Ray and the linebackers. 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: They were just like coaches on the field. We just 171 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: we just played together so long. He developed a trust 172 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: for one another, and I backed up all left and 173 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: once starting, and so we had we were had, We 174 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: had depth, and we just believe in ourselves. Man. And 175 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: intensity we all stayed off. Attis intensity, but a little 176 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: play every snap. So you come in and talking about 177 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: too tired. You look at this dude. He's barely briefing 178 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: exactly like he beginning of the game, but so feed off. 179 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: So it was very intense, man, And it was like 180 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: very little tolerance for Erra got you. Well, let's talk 181 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: about this coaches down now. You had all this talent 182 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: back del Reel, Marvin Lewis, rest Ryant, Mike Smith. What 183 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: was it like? I know he had raid coach on 184 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: the field, but what was it like having the defensive 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: minds in the room like that? Those guys are great 186 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: but not to say this. They had it easy. Ray 187 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Lewis is pretty much as a coach on the team. 188 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: They called the plays, but we were on autopilot. Man. 189 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: We didn't need We didn't actually, I mean, I'm not 190 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: gonna say we didn't need the coaches, but we knew 191 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: what the heck we were doing, and we knew we 192 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: knew exactly what we're doing, and all he had to 193 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: do is called the plays and we're gonna make it happen. 194 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: When did you first realize who ray Lewis worked? It 195 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: was my second year. We're playing the Pittsburgh Steelings, and 196 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know how much that Baltimore hated Pittsburgh until 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: his first This is my first one plan we went 198 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: in and I almost got a sack for that story. 199 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: He do know, he meant, you know, he did al 200 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: and Iverton cross around me. I failed. Ray caught himself. 201 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: Cordell Steward got a twenty yard head start. Ray ran 202 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: this man down. I'm sitting there on landing on the 203 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: ground like this dude is amazing. Dude, this this dude 204 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: the sight too many of the secon pounds and just 205 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: as fast as Cordell Stuard. He we ran down Cornell stool. 206 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: It was amazing and I realized that I was playing 207 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: with a true time after saying after that play, do 208 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: you have any Rex Ryan stories? I don't know. I 209 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I have any PG Rex. Right, I 210 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: remember Retched Ryan And who's who was getting on my case? 211 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I think it was Marvin, one of the coaches was 212 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: getting on my case, he said, and I would you know, 213 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: and I would get like I had that tip on 214 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: my show. So I'm gonna get quiet and look at 215 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: him like we're talking to me like I'm getting mad. 216 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: And Rex told me, listen, just say yes sir, and 217 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: yes sir in your mind really means you to just 218 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: say yes sir. But in your mind you think you're 219 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: saying that you and and that would help him feel 220 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: better and help you feel better about the situation. Yeah, 221 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: So Rex was cool man. I would love it playing 222 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: for Rex. Yeah, played with Ray Lewis. What was it 223 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: like playing with Rob Woodson? Roy Woodson he was like 224 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: a monk. He would just sit back then and be 225 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: quiet and just make plays. He wasn't very vocal like 226 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: during the week, so he didn't really speak to too 227 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: much to the defensive Linement. I didn't really have a 228 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: relationship with right actually, but he was just sitting back 229 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: there and be quiet and go out then the game 230 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: and just make plays like it was not you know, 231 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: so I Watson one of the greatest at all time. 232 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: So a lot of people forgetting You guys were the 233 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: first team that had the episode of hard Yeah, Hard Knocks. 234 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: What was that like? You know, what is it like? 235 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: You still see it today? What was it like being 236 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: in that first episode? Okay, your hard Knight was fun, man, 237 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: We enjoyed it. You guys to get up and one 238 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: brushday here her training because Hard Knocks guys, you know, 239 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: call me here and brush the teeth, make sure look 240 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: good for the camera. Sorry, I got my two year 241 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: old just killed in It's perfect. But my part of 242 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks was the trainer I remember having. He had 243 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: to order me in special harms. Had the biggest hand 244 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: on the team, and he took some tape and made 245 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: the tin shop on one of the Gatorway buckets and 246 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: told him Mr is Lionel Duston's helmet. I thought it 247 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: was funny. Which legend from that team do you keep 248 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: in touch with the most. It's a couple Cornell Brown, 249 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: the Cornell Brown left here, Keith Washington, Um, Robert Nette, 250 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Kyle Richardson, and John Punter. We talked. I'm probably talk 251 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: to him the most, Jamie Shopper and yeah, that's about it. 252 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: Those are guys that I talked to the most. All right, 253 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: but you know your wife over the world? Where did 254 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: we get the title? Oh? Your book? Who the hell 255 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: are we? So? Growing up the United States, UM, I 256 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: was around a lot of people who were big on 257 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: religion and history. And I've met people have told me 258 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: that we are a Native Americans. I meant people tell 259 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: me that where people is your likes? I mean people 260 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: tell me we're African Americans. Have met people to have 261 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: all different ideologies aware you know America, but African Americans 262 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: are originally from And so for me, I took a 263 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: trip around the world trying to figure this out. So 264 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: me and my wife were traveling and we were just 265 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: talking to people and every young people and it's just 266 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: about my journey trying to figure out self discovery, trying 267 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: to figure out who I am and where I belong 268 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: in this world? Did you ever get the answer as 269 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: to who we are? I feel we are all cousins. 270 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: So I guess I figured in the end, I figured 271 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: we all were from everywhere. I met people from southern 272 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: India that looked like African American, United States. I met 273 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: people in You're the little like name European people here. 274 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: So I've met people. I was in Dubai and I 275 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: saw it do look just like my grandfather. But he's 276 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: found a brewed out for my travel. I just figured 277 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: we all just a mixture of everybody here. Let's talk 278 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: about resilience. We talked a lot about it on the 279 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: podcast What is Help You be Resilient? I actually my 280 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: family and my kids. Man, get up and look at 281 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: my little girls, and I want to be here one 282 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: day then they had any grandkids and walk them down 283 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: the aisle. Um looking at my kids, Man, that motivates me. Eyoneting, 284 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I know you can't give a key moving forward, keep 285 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: eating right, take care of your body. Um, something's gonna happen. 286 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: The blessing is gonna come. And so I stay prayed up, 287 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: stay prayed up, and I stayed playing with my children. 288 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: And because that's my damn my motivation. When you get 289 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: a new kid, and I'm gonna repeat it again, when 290 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: you get your new kitten and can have some symbols 291 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: of normously, what would be your less adventure my bucket left. 292 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: I want to go to Ghana, I want to go 293 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: to Fiji, and I want to do a five k run. 294 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: I've never did a five k, so I'm gonna see something. 295 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: Going through something like this, you start to really realize, 296 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: like and You've got a lot of lights to live 297 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: and things you haven't done yet. So I'm just gonna 298 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: keep like checking stuff off my bucket less praying that UM, 299 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you know I have a long I love, I live 300 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: a long life. I tell us about your weight loss 301 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: since you want to do a five k. Well, So 302 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of research once UM settled 303 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: down for the first six months, dealing with it because 304 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: it's not it was nothing I can do. But during 305 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: research it was a doctor in Australia and then some 306 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: research on mice, and you noticed the mice who he 307 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: did a he limited their food and take the kidney 308 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: started to recover and the process in the decuration process 309 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: slowed down. And so what I did, I started doing 310 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: intermediate fasting, so I would eat between twelve and four 311 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: and uh I did it for about six seven months 312 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: and I lost like a hundred and twenty five pounds. Man, 313 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I feel great from it. I feel great, man, beside 314 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: of the kidney is probably the best I felt my 315 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: whole dult life because I've always been a big dude. 316 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: Three for these three thirty three forty So yeah, I 317 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: feel lighter. But White said, I gotta I got a 318 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: new husband. How do we get more information about the program? 319 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: Live a legacy dot kind, I said, well, right there 320 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: and all over the United States have my website, New 321 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Kidney for jellyball dot com. Got a lot of information 322 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: on there. We're trying to remove the stigma of kidney don't. 323 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: A lot of people you don't want to take their 324 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: kidneys to heaven with them and um, but you can, 325 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: really one person can say for their lives. So you're 326 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, give people to don't need kidneys, 327 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: to remove the fear because a lot of my families, 328 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: to say, especially people in our community, are afraid but 329 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: a kidney, don't it donate an organs altogether, it's like 330 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: weird to them. So I'm trying to move a lot 331 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: of the stigma, motivate people to donate and help save lives. Well, 332 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: this is outstanding. Thank you for being on the Players 333 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: Podcast with me. The best is yet to come. Man, 334 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: thank you guys with this is helping me. Man, I 335 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys help me spread the word. And uh, 336 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys allowing me to speak on your podcast. 337 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: It's our to provide feedback or request the topic for discussion. 338 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Email us at NFL Legends at NFL dot com.