1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Here's what you missed on Buck Sexton with America. Now 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: we have Ben Shapiro joining us now. He's editor in 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: chief of Daily Wire dot com. He's a syndicated columnist 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: host of The Ben Shapiro Show. Also writes a column 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: for National Review. Ben, great to have you back. Thanks 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: for having me tell me about your piece on the 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Daily Wire. Only of Republicans think Trump Junior met with Russia. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: But here's why that number isn't nuts. Okay, So the 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: fact is Trump Junior did meet with Russia. I mean, 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: he talked about it. He admitted an email, so there's 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: no real controversy that he met with at least people 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: who were claiming to be emissaries of the Russian government. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: But the reason that isn't nuts that only of Republicans 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: are saying that the meeting happened is because the real 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: truth is that most Republicans are now answering posters. Are 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: answering the posters motives, They're not answering the posters question. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: So we all know when we get a question from 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: a poster, do you think Donald Trump Junior met with Russia? 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: What we're really hearing is do you think it is 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: important that Donald Trump Jr. Met with this this Russian lawyer, 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: and our answer is no, So it's it's so. What 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: we're doing now is we are reading into what we 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: perceive the motives of the posters to me, which is 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: not a terrible thing to do, considering that the posters 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: do have motives. It is not going to give you, 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, particularly answerable results, verifiable results. But I think 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: that there is a lot of that going on. I 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: think when people talk to posters these days about whether 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: you approve or disapproved Trump, there are a strong number 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: of people who are going to say that they approve 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: of Trump just to say f you to the to 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: the posters, uh. And I think that there's you know, 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that when it comes to policy or 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: if there's a if there's a poll about Trump's tweets. 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, like we may think, okay, well, I thought 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: to myself, I didn't really like that particularly tweet. But 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the poster who's calling up, he's just looking for an 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: excuse to rip Trump, so forget it. I'm not gonna 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: be part of that, so I'll just say that I 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: loved Trump's tweet. I think there's that that mentality has 41 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: settled in on the right a little bit, and I 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: don't think it's completely unjustified. Speaking of polls, you also 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: have up on Delly Wire that a vast majority of 44 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Americans think government has to ensure or universal health insurance. 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Ben I feel like this is the part of the 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: healthcare debate that doesn't get nearly enough attention, and that 47 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: is that for the most part, now both sides of 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the political aisle are going along with the idea that 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: that the government has to provide everybody with with not 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: really even health insurance, but actually health care. Yeah. Well, 51 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: people who have identified health insurance with healthcare, they think 52 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: health coverage means that they're going to be provided healthcare, 53 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: even though people are covered by Medicaid, and that doesn't 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: mean that they actually achieve healthcare any better than they 55 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: would have they just went into the emergency room. Uh. 56 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: What the polls shows is that three out of ten 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: Republicans say that it is the government's job to provide 58 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: health coverage for everyone. One of those three in cent 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: Republicans probably President Trump. I mean President Trump said back 60 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: in January very openly that he thinks that any planned 61 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: humor votes is going to end with universal coverage everyone 62 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: being able to get coverage regardless of what they can 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: afford to bear. Well, once you say that the Democrats 64 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: have one, I mean, then you're as single payer. It's 65 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: just a question of how fast you get there, how 66 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: quickly you achieve it. And this has been the fundamental 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: disconnect on the right. Like you expected this sort of 68 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: stuff from the left, but the right has brought into 69 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: the concept that government's job is to ensure that everyone 70 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: has health coverage. And once you do that, then you're 71 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: only going to be able to do that through an 72 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: individual mandate or through actual nationalization of the health care system. 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: Those are the only two options. There is no third option. 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: You're you can have quality and affordability, but not universality 75 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: if you have a free market, but if you don't 76 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: have but if you want universality, the only way to 77 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: get it is to force people to buy health insurance 78 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: or to or to just nationalize the system entirely and 79 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: then cover people what they want or not. At a 80 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: very simplified level, this just comes down to if you 81 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: let people make a choice to get health insurance or not. 82 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Despite all the incentives, all the subsidies, all the things 83 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: that you can do as a government short of literally 84 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: mandating it. Some people choose not to have insurance, and 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: that means that some people will go bankrupt when they 86 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: need medical care. But the government doesn't want to say 87 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: that that's right. And one of the things that's really 88 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: crazy is that Republicans won't even say that. So when 89 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: you have the CBO reports coming out about the various 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: versions of the Republican bill that have been presented, and 91 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: say twenty two million more people will be uninsured, and 92 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: then you look in the bill in in the CBO 93 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: report and and I'll say two thirds of those people 94 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: will drop out because there's no longer the individual mandate. 95 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: What that means is that there are fourteen million or 96 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: fifteen million people who are saying they don't want to 97 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: buy insurance and are currently being forced by law to 98 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: buy insurance. That's not a good thing. That's a bad thing, 99 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: but it's it. But but even the Republicans are too 100 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: wary of stepping on toes to make the case that, 101 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: of course, universal insurance should not be the goal. The 102 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: goal should be quality and affordability so that you can 103 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: get it if you want it, but that you have 104 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: to make responsible decisions in order to be able to 105 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: get health insurance when you're healthy. And the truth is, 106 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: the vast majority of people in the United States already 107 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: have pre existing conditions. It's called having employer based insurance. 108 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all in group insurance programs if you 109 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: have a job. The individual insurance market, it's like eight 110 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: percent of the entire population. So we're talking about remaking 111 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: the entire health insurance system, the entire health care system. Actually, 112 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about doing all of that for what is 113 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: it best for or five percent of the population, because 114 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: there's still a bunch of people who are uncovered. What 115 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: do you think the GOP senators should do at this 116 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: stage of the game, considering that, uh, Mitch McConnell looks 117 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: like he's just flailing at this point, they've said they 118 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: may go forward with an actual an actual repeal instead 119 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: of just calling some new bill or repeal. What do 120 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: you think they should do? What do you think they 121 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: will do? Ben? I mean, I hope that they go 122 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: through it with a with a full scale repeal. There's 123 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: a question of what they can do under reconciliation, so 124 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: they can try and push through a repeal bill that 125 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: repeals regulations of abio care plus the taxes plus the mandates. 126 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: That would be my preferred option right now. What they're 127 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: talking about in their current repeal bill is getting word 128 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: of these subsidies, getting word of the mandates, getting rid 129 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: of the taxes, but leaving the regulations in place, which 130 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: is why you're seeing those CBO estimates that really inflate 131 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: insurance costs. If you're still forcing insurance companies to cover 132 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: pre existing conditions but there are no subsidies and there's 133 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: no mandate, then of course the costs are going to 134 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: rise dramatically. So it depends on the bill they present. 135 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: They should try and push a full repeal, but the 136 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: question is can they legally do that under reconciliation. If not, 137 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, going back to the drawing 138 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: board with the bill that they had in the Senate. 139 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Even though I don't like the bill particularly much, I 140 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: don't think that it repeals Obamacare. The big question here 141 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: is not whether it repeals Obamica. The big question is 142 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: whether it is better or worse, and they should stop 143 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: using the word repeal in a place. They should just say, listen, 144 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: what we've got here is a bad system. It's going 145 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: to take us a while to get back to a 146 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: free market system because too many people are dependent. So 147 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: as a first transitory step, here's what we're gonna do, right, 148 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: And then even I who want a full scale repeal, 149 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: like right off the bat, I would say, okay, well, 150 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: if this is the first step, then I'm going to 151 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: give you a little bit of rope. But if you're 152 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna tell me that this is full scale repeal and 153 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: then you're gonna sell me something that's not repealed, then 154 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: the answer is no, I'm not gonna let you say, 155 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: as a final step, if this is your replacement solution, 156 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: when it leaves all of the Obamacare regulations in place. 157 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Ben Shapiro. He's editor in chief of 158 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: Daily wire dot com and host of The Ben Shapiro Show. 159 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Ben uh Bill Nye has said that old people, this 160 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: is up on daily wire dot com. Old people have 161 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: to die for us to stop global warming. I tried 162 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: to watch some of his show on Netflix, and I'm 163 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: actually somebody who really likes Netflix. It made me think 164 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: maybe I should just cut off my Flisk subscription. It 165 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: was so unwatchably terrible. Bill Night saves the World, But 166 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: this broader theme of save the world. Have less children, 167 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: save the world. Um, old people have to die. The 168 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: left says this stuff with more regularity. Feels like these days. 169 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: NPR just tweeted out, I think the last twenty four 170 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: hours the ways that you can help save the world 171 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: from you know, CEO two global warming and it's be 172 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: a vegetarian. Have less kids, take less plane rides, don't 173 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: drive cars. Wow. Uh, this is stuff that a normal 174 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: person would say, you're crazy. But yeah, this is becoming 175 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: mainstream on the left. It has been mainstream for a while. Really, yeah, 176 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: it has been been stream. I mentioned that that Oprah 177 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Winfrey said the same thing about race back in two 178 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: dozen of their team that in two dozen teen Oprah 179 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Winfrey said that all the old white people are going 180 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: to have to die in or if for racisms. That 181 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: lets seems very wedded to this idea that if the 182 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: populations they don't like could just step that everything will 183 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: be okay. This seems like a pretty sick, perverse perspective. 184 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Don't we on the right will always joke Okay, well 185 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: I left this don't have any kids then in the 186 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: generation have beaten them demographically. But we don't actually want 187 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: leftist not to have kids. We like kids. Okay, we're 188 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: anti abortion, we like kids. We'd like for people to 189 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: have kids. Uh. This this pushed by the left that 190 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: we're not going to try and convince you. We're just 191 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: going to wait until the people we don't like get 192 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: old and die. Uh. It's not a particularly Republican notion, 193 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: like small our republican notion. No, it's certainly not. But 194 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm surprised to see how open it is these days 195 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: that as you point out that older populations, uh children 196 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: don't have babies. There's nothing that is too much for 197 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: the global warming cult to put forward. You can, you 198 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: can justify anything under the rubric of well, it's saving 199 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: the planet, and that's not an exaggeration. That's why with 200 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Bill Nye saved the world with this show. They say 201 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: some crazy stuff on there. Oh yeah, I mean beyond 202 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: all the global warming stuff, they also think they're saving 203 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the world by telling people that really they're their innate 204 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: desires to have sex with everything up to and including trees. 205 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's really an awful show. I mean it's 206 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: if you even watch one segment of it was not 207 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: for any and you watch one segment of it and 208 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: and you feel like you've lost half your brain power immediately, 209 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: which may in fact you the plan. Maybe the plan 210 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: is to actually soul suck everybody who watches this show, 211 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: and then eventually it's like invasion of the body Snatchers, 212 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: and Bill might just seizes whatever is left of your 213 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: of your central nervous system and use it to control you. 214 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: Because I can't explain otherwise why anyone would think the 215 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: show is good. Before we can let you go bad 216 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: to do battle with social justice warriors across the country 217 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: and and on the interwebs, you got to tell us 218 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: about what's going on with Berkeley College. Sounds like you're 219 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: the latest conservative to get the to get the what 220 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: the slow roll treatment? Are they banning you or you 221 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: go on What's happening? Yeah? So, I mean basically it's 222 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: the slow roll treatment. So what they said was I 223 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: was supposed to speak in September for for Berkeley. I 224 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: spoke there last year, no problem, right and no no 225 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: protesters nothing. Uh, this year we had we had put 226 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: in all the paperwork CRS, the College Republicans have put 227 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: in all the paperwork sponsored by Young Americans Foundation. Take 228 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: him a pen week notice and said, you know, we'd 229 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: like one of these venues, and Berkeley got back and said, 230 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: none of those venues are available, not available on the day, 231 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: we'll get vaculator. And this is exactly the same sort 232 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: of thing they did with Han Culture. They kept pushing, Okay, 233 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna try this venue and then we'll do a 234 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: different date. But that date isn't gonna works. Maybe we'll 235 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: do it in the middle of the day and maybe 236 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: won't really give you a big venue. And so they're 237 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of they were, they're kind of jerking us around. 238 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: We still haven't heard back formally from them. They're now 239 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: saying in the press that they are going to facilitate 240 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: the event make sure that it happens with the venue 241 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: of the appropriate size. I certainly hope that's the case, 242 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: because it's not. We're gonna see them. So, I mean, 243 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: those are those are there two choices? So the disadvantages, folks, 244 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: of infringing on a lawyer's First Amendment rights. Uh, there 245 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: you have it. It's not a good idea. Bent Shapire, 246 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: everybody check out his latest on Delhi wire dot com, 247 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: where he's the editor in chief. Also, you can listen 248 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: to the Ben Shapiro Show. Ben always appreciate you making 249 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: the time first. Thank you, sir. Thanks so much. Like 250 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: us on Facebook, just search Buck Sexton