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Speaker 3: My ex husband is being neglectful to our children, so

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Speaker 3: I filed for higher child support. Good to start. My

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Speaker 3: thirty three female ex Harry thirty five mail and now

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Speaker 3: have been divorced for six years. We dated a bit

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Speaker 3: in high school when I visited a relative in his hometown,

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Speaker 3: which is a major city for the summers, but I

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Speaker 3: would break up with him when I got back to

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Speaker 3: my city for school, which is about two and a

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Speaker 3: half hours away. Not the most mature I know, but

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Speaker 3: even my parents were like, you don't need a long

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Speaker 3: distant relationship before you can vote. New rule, my kids

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Speaker 3: will not be able to date until they are able

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Speaker 3: to vote.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that. Yeah, you're gonna have fun with

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Speaker 2: that one.

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Speaker 3: of kept in touch on Facebook, Lola at the time,

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Speaker 3: but my sophomore year of college. He ended up transferring

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Speaker 3: to my school. He got back together and got married

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Speaker 3: basically right after I graduated and moved to my hometown,

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Speaker 3: Slash City. Our kids, Matt eleven and Elsie, eight, came

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Speaker 3: pretty quickly and we had a good few years before

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Speaker 3: stop me if you heard this one. I just left

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Speaker 3: as if I was already a single mom of three

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Speaker 3: and was sick of working doing all the childcare and

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Speaker 3: all the cleaning, cooking, and planning. We tried therapy but

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Speaker 3: ultimately decided it wasn't going to work. For three years plus,

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Speaker 3: it was fantastic. We had a wonderful fifty to fifty

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Speaker 3: co parenting relationship. He was such a better father when

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Speaker 3: he had all of them to himself, and I had

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Speaker 3: brakes that I had been begging for. We agreed to

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Speaker 3: never bad mouth the other in front of the kids,

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Speaker 3: will make them feel responsible for our feelings, or anything

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Speaker 3: like that. We didn't have to spend a fortune on

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Speaker 3: a divorce because we were able to amically work everything out,

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Speaker 3: which only benefited or kiddos. In late twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: he let me know he had gotten back together with Amy,

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Speaker 3: thirty five female. He said her name a bunch of

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Speaker 3: times like I should know who she was, and I

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Speaker 3: finally asked. Apparently, she was a girl he had dated

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Speaker 3: when I was not in town before we reconnected, because

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Speaker 3: she would see him during the summers, leave and then

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Speaker 3: come back. I was honestly happy for him. I'm not

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Speaker 3: interested in dating, to be honest. My kids are too

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Speaker 3: young and I work a lot and have a ton

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Speaker 3: of friends and family. Amy lived in his hometown, and

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Speaker 3: I know he visited her a ton when we didn't

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Speaker 3: have the kids. We were a week on, week off,

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Speaker 3: but he was also there for his parenting time. The

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Speaker 3: kids met Amy and said they liked her a lot,

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Speaker 3: so I was happy. My parents were also divorced but

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Speaker 3: found other people while still being amazing parents, so I

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Speaker 3: was really hopeful. But twenty twenty three, he let me

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Speaker 3: know that he had proposed and would be moving back

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Speaker 3: to his hometown to be with Amy. I was pretty

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Speaker 3: stunned because he was such a dedicated and present father,

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Speaker 3: and asked how he expected to work that out. He

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Speaker 3: was insistent that he wanted to keep the custody, but

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Speaker 3: admitted he could only do every other weekend parenting time.

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Speaker 3: That sounded like a eighty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I think it's basically like in reality to eighty twenty.

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Speaker 2: But he wants to keep the legal precedent of him

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Speaker 2: being able touce fifty percent if he wants to, so, like,

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Speaker 2: for instance, he'd be like, Oh, I'm in towent for

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Speaker 2: this week, so I'm taking them for fifty percent of

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Speaker 2: that week or whatever.

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Speaker 3: If you're divorced with someone and it seems like everything's

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Speaker 3: very amicable, and it's like week gone, week off. One

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Speaker 3: week you have them, one week they have them. You

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Speaker 3: don't need child support because you're handling one week and

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Speaker 3: they're handling the other. But when it comes to like

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Speaker 3: one week plus five days.

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Speaker 2: We are back to the similar dilemma we were before.

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Speaker 2: There's the week, which is equivalent to the school year,

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Speaker 2: and then there's the weekends, which are equivalent to the summer.

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Speaker 4: Hey, but what's better John the week.

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Speaker 3: Of course, before we moved, we didn't have any sort

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Speaker 3: of alimony or child support or anything, since we were

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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty and the big expenses split evenly. He

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Speaker 3: said he would keep splitting big expenses evenly and offered

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Speaker 3: me child support since my expenses for the kids would

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Speaker 3: be going up having so much more than that. Not

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Speaker 3: that I was complaining about that. Again, we wanted to

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Speaker 3: work this out ourselves. Mostly why spend money on lawyers

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Speaker 3: when we have two kids who could use it. I

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Speaker 3: love this mindset.

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Speaker 4: This is good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I make a bit more than him, not that

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Speaker 3: that really matters. But the first amount he offered, four

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Speaker 3: hundred for two kids a month was laughable.

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Speaker 2: Which like, honestly, we've looked up a child support it's

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Speaker 2: so low, dude, it's so low.

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Speaker 3: For underbucks laughable. I didn't laugh at him or anything,

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Speaker 3: but I told him that that would not be acceptable.

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Speaker 3: He said he was willing to continue paying half of

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Speaker 3: big expenses, which duh. Plus he'd be driving a five

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Speaker 3: hour round trip since he was the one moving every

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Speaker 3: other weekend. So he's like still doing the big expenses,

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Speaker 3: plus another four hundred plus driving back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought he wasn't doing anything before because they

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Speaker 2: were splitting expenses evenly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so they're already spitting them evenly. But like, let's say,

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Speaker 3: like the kids, I don't know what that number would be,

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Speaker 3: would be like like six hundred for both of them.

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Speaker 3: So he's already paying three hundred plus an extra four

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Speaker 3: adding like an extra five hundred a month. I thought

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Speaker 3: about it a lot and figured out I am fine

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Speaker 3: financially as much as anyone is these days, and didn't

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Speaker 3: want to bankrupt him for child sport. The most important

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Speaker 3: thing to me was that he continued to be present

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Speaker 3: okay with six hundred a month plus the shared big expenses.

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Speaker 3: I thought he would be happy with this, but he

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Speaker 3: kept grumbling that he thought four hundred was more than fair. Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: he did agree to six hundred. Again, I really want

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Speaker 3: to make this work for my kids, so please don't

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Speaker 3: tell me I was an idiot for some of these things.

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Speaker 3: I really went out of my way to be helpful.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I am single and have a ton

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Speaker 3: of family and friends, so I had more free time

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Speaker 3: if they had things going on. I never minded keeping

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Speaker 3: things like Father's Day, so I Stepmother's Day, Christmas birthdays.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know if I believed in love languages,

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Speaker 3: and it's not like their butts have jobs. And even

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Speaker 3: worked it out from a relative in their city to

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Speaker 3: pick up our kids from their wedding ceremonies. Since they

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Speaker 3: had an only adults reception, these kind of gestures were

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Speaker 3: never reciprocated. She's going to great lengths to make this

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Speaker 3: to be in their lives. But I don't think he

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Speaker 3: kids told me that some of the weekends they stayed

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Speaker 2: I am a single, independent woman and I'm taking care

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory. Amy wanted to be with the X and

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Speaker 3: Axe was like, I am a father. I want to

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Speaker 3: be a father to my children. If you want this

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Speaker 3: to work out, you're gonna have to be like supportive

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Speaker 3: of me and that. And he's like, okay, let's move

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Speaker 3: over here, Amy says, and then she starts like distracting him.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think happened. I go on vacation too,

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Speaker 3: but the idea of going on such an expensive vacation

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Speaker 3: We actually went to pan last summer and had a blast.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm annoying parent, but I couldn't believe he'd leave

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Speaker 3: to remain amicable, but after I found that out, the

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Speaker 3: favors stopped. For the past few months, any time he

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Speaker 3: if it was far in advance. I wasn't trying to

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Speaker 3: be petty, but it wasn't as if they were asking

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Speaker 3: to switch weekends. Ever, it was always just them skipping.

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Speaker 3: I know his family is useless. No idea about hers

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Speaker 3: but he should be able to make time for his

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Speaker 3: children four days out of a month, and it's so

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Speaker 3: hard to go from a great, amicable co parenting relationship

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Speaker 3: he'd been asking my relatives and in his city for help.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they did if they could, but not always. I

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Speaker 3: saying yes to keeping the kids more. Plus I obviously

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Speaker 3: love them, But I started keeping track of every time

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Speaker 3: It was five times, So it's fifty percent. He's like doing.

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Speaker 2: This, and he's already reduced it like crazy, rose down

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Speaker 2: to like five percent custody.

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Speaker 3: Around that time, Matt had told me some pretty upsetting things.

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Speaker 3: Confided that he was okay staying here more. I was

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Speaker 3: clear that he could tell me anything and that nothing

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Speaker 3: he was at his dad's. Okay, so Matt's one of

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Speaker 3: the kids. Both he and his sister needed to be

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Speaker 3: was the weekend, not in bed, but they weren't allowed

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Speaker 3: they let the dog out. He's not cooped up all day.

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Speaker 3: I love dogs. We have two. Number three. Elsie got

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Speaker 3: a bad flu a few visits ago, and apparently he

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Speaker 3: had asked Harry to sleep with her in her room

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Speaker 3: Amy and our kids do not go sleep We always

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Speaker 3: let them sleep with us if they're sick, and asked

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Speaker 3: I don't expect Harry and Amy to let her sleep

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Speaker 3: agreed to almost all of my requests. Child support was increased.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like I fed that up. My kids

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Speaker 3: But I'm really doubting myself. So would I be the

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Speaker 2: We got an update in my mind, you're raising at

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, no bad mouthing. I'm like, how can

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Speaker 2: And the fact that Opie has been doing all of

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Speaker 3: I think less of him as a man and as

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Amy is absolutely totally poisoning his mind.

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Speaker 4: Opie's great.

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Speaker 2: I freaking love OPI, and I think OPI has a

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Speaker 2: before my judge of his character was he was good,

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Speaker 4: It was fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: We were great. I want to have an active father

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Speaker 3: Update. Unfortunately things have degenerated since my last post. To

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Speaker 3: What happened, John, No, what happened.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I've gone a trip and I'm going through Italy

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Speaker 5: and I'm going to sit my besso with Amy close.

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Speaker 3: But the other day he called they got last minute

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Speaker 3: he needed to start acting like it. He got upset,

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Speaker 3: him what he meant. He said he was struggling financially

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Speaker 4: Why does this dude go to a concert then?

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Speaker 3: And I bet you ten million bucker guess who's not

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Speaker 3: working in the relationship.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you an A, I'll give you an M.

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Speaker 3: He said. I was allowed to be upset we weren't

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Speaker 3: He knows why our marriage ended. He knows that I

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Speaker 3: I have pages of texts and emails of him thanking

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Speaker 3: me for being so accommodating and sympathetic to a situation

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Speaker 3: just saying I'm bitter and jealous that Harry moved on

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Speaker 3: I would rather cut off my legs than be back

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Speaker 3: with him. I'm the one who filed for divorced and

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Speaker 3: some kind of delusion where I not only want my

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Speaker 3: I've said, the only goal here is for my kids

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Speaker 3: it was all about him, his wife and their lives

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Speaker 3: and feelings, saying one that it is my job as

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Speaker 2: Hey, so it's your job to do my job.

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Speaker 3: And she did that, no wonder Oh my gosh too.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Amy enough for opening her life to

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Speaker 2: Thank you for giving a room to your children.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the bare minimm.

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Speaker 5: I could have put him in Spike's kennel, but I

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Speaker 6: I dave them a room.

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Speaker 3: Three that he and Amy are young newlyweds, they are

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Speaker 3: For a lot of it was that insane belief that

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Speaker 6: Five.

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Speaker 3: Apparently my cruelty knows no bounds because I have never

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Speaker 3: like thirty minutes and anywhere from fifty to seventy five

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00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 3: per ticket, so not cheap but saves time, and he

439
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: refused saying the airport in his city is annoying to Gatcho.

440
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 3: There is no direct amtrak between our cities. It would

441
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: be like eight hours plus. I believe six. They might

442
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 3: just get full custody and make me be the one

443
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: to jump through hoops to see my children so that

444
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 3: I can know how they feel. You know, simply just

445
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 3: get full custody, because apparently in their world they deserve

446
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 3: every little whim of their own desire. Seven. He accused

447
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: me of financials for upping child support when I wasn't destituted.

448
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: Apparently useless. I'm living under the property line. My kids

449
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: don't deserve financial help from their father. I have PTO

450
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: to burn and just decided to take one day to

451
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: myself because I'm so overwhelmed and upset about all of this. Yes,

452
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: I did screenshot all of this for my lawyer. I

453
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: don't want to be the cause of my kid's father

454
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: abandoning them, but I have been at beyond my limit

455
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 3: for so long. I don't know what to do. They

456
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: both treat me so horribly and make these assumptions that

457
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: are simply not true. I want my kids to have

458
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: their dad and their lives. I've ruined myself ragged, making

459
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: it work, taking up the slack when they drop the weekends,

460
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: doing all the mental heavy lifting, or looking ahead and

461
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: switching weekends if, for instance, Father's Day falls on mine

462
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: or her birthday when I know she doesn't want them

463
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: around falls on their weekend, and planning ahead of time

464
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: and contacting them, and guys, we want to freaking contact

465
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: you every single day.

466
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: All you gotta go to is where drawn Spotify, Apple

467
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Speaker 2: podcast or your favorite podcast apps.

468
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: And what the heck do they look up?

469
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Speaker 2: Okay, story time and.

470
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: What will be there waiting for them podcasts, full episodes

471
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: of these stories.

472
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: I give to you the gift of us.

473
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: I am so done. I want to offer this fine.

474
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: You win, no more child support, keep all your money.

475
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: You can see the kids the weekends after Christmas and Thanksgiving.

476
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 3: Those are when they celebrate the holidays anyways, and on

477
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: Father's Day otherwise they're with me. You can live your

478
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: child free life. Me and my kids will just be

479
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 3: fine without you. I can't keep putting up with this abuse.

480
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm at my breaking boy and op As, you should

481
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: be done with this. Stop playing these games. I just

482
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: hate that, like the dad, he was doing some good

483
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: and now like, the kids are gonna have to figure

484
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: that out.

485
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: She was like, I want them to have their father

486
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: in the life, which is great as long as the

487
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: father is good. But remember the older kid not went

488
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: to op and it is like, hey, the vibe is

489
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: not good. That's when it's like, it's better to not

490
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: have their father as it acted in their lives and

491
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: be home with Opee where they know they're getting attention,

492
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: care for love, space, all of that.

493
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: That is the end of the story.

494
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: My boyfriend's a fair partner sent me a message she

495
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: wants to apologize. By the way, for context, the fair

496
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: partner question was in the twenties, and then op and

497
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: the exit are both twenty three. So hi all using

498
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: a Thorroway account as my original account is traceable. A

499
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: quick background. My ex and I broke up six months ago.

500
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: We were together for about three years and I found

501
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: out he was cheating on me. But to be clear,

502
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: there were a lot of other reasons why we broke up.

503
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Frustrated throw Away and

504
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

505
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Speaker 2: our slus Okay storytime and send those bad boys in.

506
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: So it was a messy breakup because my ex just

507
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: basically split and didn't want to discuss things. He told

508
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: me that he didn't need to discuss things anymore because

509
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: he already had someone new. A few days after a breakup, Wow,

510
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: my exend, this girl who will call Jessica, started posting

511
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: all over social media about their relationship. I found this gross,

512
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: but what else could I do. I was just basically

513
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: hurting and didn't want to engage anymore. My exes family

514
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: reached out to me to basically say they were also

515
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: uncomfortable about it. A mere few weeks after our breakup,

516
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: my ex brought Jessica to a family dinner to introduce her.

517
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: They weren't enthusiastic because they know that she's the girl

518
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: my ex was cheating on me with, and everything was

519
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: way too quick. My dad reached out to me and

520
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: even told me not to feel hurt if I saw

521
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: pictures online. While they were uncomfortable, they didn't want to

522
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: cause a scene. I just unfollowed people related to my

523
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: ex so I wouldn't see it. His family has been

524
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: very caring about me and would support me to say

525
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: they wish we could work things out. Each time I

526
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: would decline and just said that I wish we could

527
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: have closed things up.

528
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: Well.

529
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Ultimately, I musted up the courage to message my ex

530
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: so that he would return any very sentimental and valuable things,

531
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: some of which belonged to my family. I also asked

532
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: if he could talk to me so we could finally

533
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: close things. He agreed, and we did so. The gist

534
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: of our discussion was him apologizing for what he did.

535
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: He told me that he and Jessica broke up but

536
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: were still talking, that he still loved me, and just

537
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: general reminiscing. Not a lot of.

538
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: People get closure.

539
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: Saw. While the discussion was a bit confusing, I did

540
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

541
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: I thought that was the.

542
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: End of it. We never spoke after we both said

543
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: our piece. I was already dating someone else and they

544
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: were still talking, so it seemed that both of us

545
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: were just moving on. Yesterday, I randomly received a message

546
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: from Jessica the affair partner. She said that she knew

547
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: I was mad and that I deserved to feel that way,

548
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: and asked if we could talk. Do we talk with

549
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: the affair partner because she could at least paint some

550
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: context on what happened.

551
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 4: I like to talk because for something like this. It's

552
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: better to have more information than no information.

553
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: She said she knew I was mad and that I

554
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: deserve to feel that way, and we could talk.

555
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: I asked her, what about?

556
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: What do we could talk about? She said she wanted

557
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: to apologize for everything and that she understood how they

558
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: did hurt me. She said that her mistake was after

559
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: finding out about the truth my ex cheating, they should

560
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: have kept their relationship low key. She said that she

561
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: always wanted to reach out, but didn't have the guts to.

562
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: She even mentioned that she tried talking to my ex

563
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: to talk to me. I don't know how to take

564
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: it and what her proper response to this would be.

565
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: I just don't agree with her sentiments on the situation.

566
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: It's already been many months afterwards, and I didn't appreciate

567
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: the need to suddenly dig up things that I thought

568
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: were already resolved. I also don't buy the idea that

569
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: she didn't know about me. Just three days before the breakup,

570
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: my ex was still posting pictures of me on a

571
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: social media posts that he didn't delete. But even giving

572
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: her the benefit of the doubt, she knew almost immediately

573
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: after we broke up that my ex cheated on me

574
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: with her. Am I being too harsh or better? I

575
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: don't think I'm too angry anymore, but maybe I just

576
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: have a strong dislike of her. There is an update, Riley,

577
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: You've got thoughts. I can feel it.

578
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: So this Jessica the affair partner comes to you. She

579
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: still wanted to keep the relationship going after finding out

580
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: that she was the other woman.

581
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: What does she want from op I think alleviating her

582
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: own guilt, But I could be wrong. Like at first

583
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: when she said I want to talk, I'm like, oh,

584
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: there's like some sort of like big mystery. I don't know,

585
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: we don't know about right, or maybe there's like other

586
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: people he did this too, there's a whole network of women.

587
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: But it just seems like I like wanted to talk

588
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: to you. I didn't really like know I was like

589
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: the a fair partner, but like it kind of like

590
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: did or something, so like like I tried to get

591
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: him to talk to you about it, but it didn't work. Sorry,

592
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. And again, like Opie said,

593
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: is like, hey, this is months after the facts. Why

594
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: are we talking about this. Opie's like, I'm trying to

595
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: move on with my life. I'm done with that bozo,

596
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: like I've already had the closure talk with him. I

597
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: don't get it. But there is an update. So hiall.

598
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: My initial posts didn't garner much attention, but I wanted

599
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: to give a short update. I never responded back to

600
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: Jessica and basically told her that while I understood she

601
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: was guilty, there really isn't anything she can do and

602
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: should do for me. This is the words we need

603
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: to be saying out of our mouth holes to Jessica

604
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: the affair partner, just that she has to make better

605
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: decisions now and hopefully her guilt would mean that she

606
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't hurt people like this again. During the holiday, my

607
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: ex's dad greeted me with a Merry Christmas. I was

608
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: also told of the news that Jessica was four to

609
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: five months pregnant with my ex's child.

610
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: Do we think that this soon to be mother was

611
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: expecting something out of a pee in a way. I mean,

612
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: I understand the alleviating guilt could be a reason why

613
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: she wants to talk. Maybe I don't understand that. I

614
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: don't understand how someone can go try to alleviate guilt.

615
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think she's just like, oh, if

616
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: like you forgive me, then I'll feel better.

617
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes so much more sense. But do you

618
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: think maybe she's trying to wringle this child in this.

619
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what if she's so stupid that she's like,

620
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: I think this is your baby? So it all lines

621
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: up now. I guess that's what she messaged me because

622
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: they found out around that time, just as she was

623
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: really sorry lemeo. After that, my ex and I had

624
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: the chance to talk. While of course I was still

625
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: not okay with the fact that he cheated on me.

626
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't wish ill upon an unborn child. He has

627
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: a lot of growing up to do and is not

628
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: the most financially stable person. It also turns out that

629
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: this girl is quite young. I told him that I

630
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: wished him well despite everything. His dad told me that

631
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: he still believes that he can make something of himself.

632
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: When my ex and I talked, he admitted to me

633
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: that the reason he cheated with me was because he

634
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: knew I was already going to break up with him.

635
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: That's not a reason, and.

636
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: He probably just said that in order to get in

637
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: her pantalon taste.

638
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: It's so frustrating how people listen to and accept this logic.

639
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Now that's partly true because months before I sum him down,

640
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: talked to him about issues in our relationship and that

641
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: I had wanted to bring to his attention the fact

642
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: that things were no longer healthy. I guess it was

643
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: my prelude to an amicable breakup. He told me that

644
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: there was really a better way to break things off,

645
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: but that he was too scared to be alone after

646
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: breaking up.

647
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: He's manipulating. Ooh this man, where do these people click

648
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: up these ideas and do this?

649
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Shut up? That's what that is.

650
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: And I was wondering, like, what town hall attendee thing

651
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: do these guys go to in order to think up

652
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: of these manipulative tactics.

653
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: Dude, they go to the weenie hut juniors. So he

654
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: made sure he had someone to run to when we

655
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: finally broke things off. I just really wish that we

656
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: could have ended things better. He was my best friend.

657
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: The new shocked me, but in a good way. I

658
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: guess I was able to get closure. I'm certainly in

659
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: a good and healthy relationship and starting this year with

660
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: a really great outlook. Oh wow, we're back in a

661
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: new great one. Thank you for all the advice. I

662
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: wish everyone had a great holiday. Edit. Oh wow, I

663
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: really wasn't expecting.

664
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: This to blow up.

665
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: I thought my post was locked, but I'm glad I checked.

666
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: I was sick last night and only have the chance

667
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: to see it now. Just a few clarifications because a

668
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: lot of people have questions. I'm sorry I wasn't able

669
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: to clear the details, as I don't want to submit

670
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: such a lengthy post. I realized after rereading my post

671
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: about how confusing it was. My apologies first is that yes,

672
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: I did respond back to Jessica the affair partner after

673
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: I posted, but she responded again. I no longer message

674
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: her after that. You're all correct based on the timeline.

675
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: She did get pregnant after we broke up, I discovered

676
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: his cheating. What I didn't mention or was fully clear

677
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: yet was around four to five months ago. My ex

678
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: talked to me and told me that he and Jessica

679
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: broke up, but they realized that they were in a

680
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: relationship for the wrong reason. We talked for closure, but

681
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: I realized he was also just testing the waters with me.

682
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: I could be wrong too, So basically he's like, oh,

683
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Jessica's got this kid. Let me see if I can

684
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: run on out of here and go back to OP.

685
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: And he's like, she don't want me, so I'll bounce back,

686
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: I guess.

687
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: And the IQ to go to this Wiener Hut Juniors

688
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: has to be under like.

689
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: Bro negative one hundred thousand. You have to have negative

690
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: brain cells to enter this frickin' super weeny Hut Juniors.

691
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: So there are a number of people who also questioned

692
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: why I kept in contact with the people in my

693
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: ex's life, or why I even talked to him about

694
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: everything afterwards. Well, I agree, this isn't the most healthier

695
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: mature I'll call myself on that plenty of times. It

696
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: was just really hard to detach from his family, who

697
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: I had grown really close to. When my exes dad

698
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: last talked to me, he told me that things will

699
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: never change and he still loves me like a daughter.

700
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: And while a lot of people don't agree with my

701
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: last communication with my ex, I think it was helpful

702
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: for both of us to process moving forward. I think

703
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: we left the conversation clearing out that we didn't have

704
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: any hate for you each other, just wishing each other well,

705
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: which is like, oh, Pie's a freakinsane. I'm sorry.

706
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, OPI is on the sideline being.

707
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: Like, how can we both emotionally and mentally go through

708
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 6: this amicably?

709
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 5: And he's like, I need someone for my wiener And

710
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 5: I'm a very sad bar Anyways. Also, I have to

711
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 5: admit that I don't have the most positive image of Jessica.

712
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: I watched myself a lot of the times not to

713
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: be hateful. It's hard to judge when you have negative

714
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 2: things shown to you. She had a lot of heurtful

715
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: things to me outside of the cheating, but in the

716
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, I really don't know the full

717
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: story anyways, Without the chips felt, I think all I

718
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: can do now is just wish them the best. By

719
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Speaker 2: listen to us for eternity. Twenty eighteen was a tough year.

723
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: I went through a breakup, I was cheated on, I

724
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Speaker 2: lost my sister, Oh my god, and had to recontact

725
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: my ex to get things my sister used to own back.

726
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: These are things I referenced in the initial post and

727
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Speaker 2: basically had to pull myself back up after all this pain,

728
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Speaker 2: the loss. I'm glad to leave it all behind. It

729
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Speaker 2: to twenty eighteen, and I'm going to be starting twenty

730
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Speaker 2: nineteen strong. Thank you for all the positivity and warm

731
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Speaker 2: wishes and to a healthy year.

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Speaker 3: I will say, you're gonna have one good year ahead

733
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Speaker 7: My ex husband's Valentine's gift for He's a Fair Partner

738
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 7: was delivered to my house.

739
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Speaker 6: I threw it away.

740
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Speaker 4: Was it nice though?

741
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 6: I hope so?

742
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: Okay?

743
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 7: I hope it was a lingerie a diamond necklace into

744
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 7: the trash.

745
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: I would have just kept it.

746
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 7: My ex husband, thirty four male and I thirty eight female,

747
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 7: have been separated for a year and the divorce was

748
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 7: final last year. About three years prior, I caught him

749
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 7: in an affair in which he cried and promised things

750
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 7: would change and he would never do it again. I

751
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 7: was stupid, believed him and stayed. By the way this

752
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 7: comes from lived left love lie and if you want to.

753
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Speaker 6: Submit your own stories, good our slashowcase stories.

754
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 7: I'm suppared it. So after countless infidelities, I finally found

755
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 7: enough sense and respect for myself to leave the relationship.

756
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 7: This man gaslit me to the nth degree about his affairs,

757
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 7: to the point where he said I needed therapy for

758
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 7: the marriage to continue for my false assumptions and questioning

759
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 7: his trust. In fact, solid proof of his multiple affairs

760
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 7: were found days after the last you need therapy for

761
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 7: not trusting me speech. This was the same day I

762
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: asked for a divorce.

763
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 6: As you can.

764
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 7: Imagine, this has been a lot to deal with in

765
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 7: having to keep in contact with him to complete divorce

766
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 7: proceedings and removing his name from my house was painful.

767
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 7: Fast forward one year to today. He has not lived

768
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 7: here for a year. This is all the relevant information

769
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 7: about uh. This is my house. His name is not

770
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 7: on it. In any way. I still get mail for

771
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 7: him here in which I have constantly and kindly asked

772
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 7: him via text to change his address, for which he

773
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 7: says he did, and hold double check every time. This

774
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 7: mail includes things like insurance cards for his new affair baby.

775
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 7: Just last week, he picked up the last of his

776
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 7: belongings and important mail, which I've held for months waiting

777
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 7: for him to pick up. Celebrated this would be the

778
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 7: last time I would ever need to contact or see

779
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 7: him again. Yesterday I received a package, and without thinking,

780
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 7: I opened it on my way into the door, thinking

781
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 7: it was one of my many Amazon buys. L well,

782
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 7: it's a jewelry box with two rather cheap looking necklaces inside.

783
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: Something I didn't you kind of got it right in

784
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: then you did say diamond It was a yeah, diamonds.

785
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 7: It's kind of, I don't know, kind of crazy that

786
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 7: he's just getting her like necklaces.

787
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 6: Off of Amazon.

788
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 7: I double check the shipping label and it's my ex

789
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 7: husband's name. This is clearly a Valentine's present for the

790
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 7: new girl, as the rhyinestones are green, which I immediately

791
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 7: recognized as her month's birthstone.

792
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: How did you How do you know that? I know

793
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: that she went deep down that stock.

794
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was like, who is this girl?

795
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 4: When's our birthday?

796
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 7: He's never ordered from this company when we were together,

797
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 7: so I would have understood if he had an existing

798
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 7: case which had the old address, But I don't see

799
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 7: that as the case at this point, I feel this

800
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 7: is almost intentional. How many times can one put the

801
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 7: wrong address on your things? This man is very much

802
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: an but even I don't know if he would go

803
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 7: that far or if he's just that stupid. Would I

804
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 7: be the a hole for throwing away the whole package

805
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 7: in the trash.

806
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 6: I looked it up and.

807
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 7: It was under eighty bucks and not fine jewelry by

808
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 7: any means. Also, I really want to go no contact

809
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 7: moving forward, so I would rather not text him if

810
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 7: it can be avoided. I would be lying if I

811
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 7: said I didn't still harbor resentment and hate, but I

812
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 7: feel guilty not giving someone something they paid for. And

813
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 7: there are some comments, and I presume an update. I

814
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 7: don't know if you'll have this take.

815
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: Okay, pop off, I think you should throw him out.

816
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: I assume that would be your take.

817
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 6: I think you should throw him out.

818
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 7: I mean, he cheated on you for months and lied

819
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 7: about it continuously. Awesome, it is under eighty bucks. That's

820
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: like a parking ticket. He has to pay the fine

821
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 7: for cheating on you, and it's it's like seventy bucks.

822
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's a deal.

823
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 7: It's like not even like you should be paying like

824
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 7: thousands of dollars, but he's just.

825
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 6: Paying seventy bucks. That's nothing.

826
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 7: But there are some comments, so we're gonna jump into them.

827
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 7: Comment number one, Not the a hole. He's deliberately sending

828
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 7: things to your address to mess with you. Throw it

829
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 7: away and block his number.

830
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 6: You deserve peace.

831
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 7: Reply, and if he does trying to make contact, it's

832
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 7: a simple no. Not of your trash is here, You're

833
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 7: out of my life. Reply says yeah, den I ever

834
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 7: receiving anything. Reply porch pirate must have gotten it, lowell,

835
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 7: repackage it and leave it in a visible place on

836
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 7: the porch.

837
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 6: Okay, comment too.

838
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 7: I was wondering how far I would have to read

839
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 7: before someone stated what should be obvious. Throwing away someone

840
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 7: someone else's mail is illegal and a federal offense. Market

841
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 7: return has not been at this address for a length

842
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 7: of time, and put it back in the box. That way,

843
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 7: every time your mail person takes one back, they get

844
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 7: a reminder that he is gone in the first place,

845
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 7: and they will catch more in the future. I'm going

846
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 7: through this with my mom. She passed away after changing

847
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 7: he address to my house. If I throw it away,

848
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 7: she stays on the mailing list that gets reused and

849
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 7: sold and more mail shows up. Returning it is a

850
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 7: hassle to everyone, granted, but being annoyed charged for return

851
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 7: mail is what gets them to take the name off

852
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 7: of their list.

853
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, solution, reasonable answer. No, it's it's the solution

854
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: we found it.

855
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 7: Perhaps one route take an Amazon delivery is not a

856
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 7: federal offense like the mail, but you know it's not yours,

857
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 7: so you are stealing it regardless of the reason why.

858
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: That's what I was gonna say, because I feel like

859
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 7: if it's official mail, that is a federal offense. But

860
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure Amazon packages it's not a federal offense

861
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 7: given how many people steal Amazon packages.

862
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: I don't not that that's good, to be clear, I

863
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: just don't care about legality. Just just send it back. Yeah,

864
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 4: you don't care about reality. Yeah, I'm a freaking bad

865
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 4: app WHOA, I'm traveling with you in very soon.

866
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm very scared.

867
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Speaker 6: You better.

868
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 7: If more Amazon boxes show up, then you have to

869
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 7: contact them, tell them you did not order it. Most

870
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 7: likely what they do is tell you to keep it.

871
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 7: Then you can do with it whatever you want. And

872
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 7: Amazon just had to pay out for the livery. So

873
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 7: that happens a few times, and Amazon is going to

874
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 7: put a stop to it. Is my guests, do not

875
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 7: give this guy easy ammunition. He would probably love the

876
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 7: chance to take you to small claims court or to

877
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 7: share on social media how jealous and vindictive you are

878
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 7: for stealing the necklace set he got for his.

879
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: New girl and baby like it's a trap card. Okay,

880
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: but you can't prove that with the reddits.

881
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 7: If they find this medi story, you can. That's on

882
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 7: you all. Now you can't do the throwaway route. Update First,

883
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 7: thank you all for the comments reminding me that I

884
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 7: don't owe him anything. I don't know why I still

885
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 7: feel guilty for doing what I want to do. I

886
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 7: just got home from work, so as of now, the

887
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 7: package is still in my possession. Later today, the dreaded

888
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 7: text did come. No, I did not block him. He

889
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 7: said he just found out they sent another package to

890
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 7: my house and claimed he went off on customer service

891
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 7: for using his billing address again.

892
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 6: I left him on red.

893
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 7: Interesting because this is the first package from this company

894
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 7: to ever arrive at this house. But mostly his billing

895
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 7: address is still my house. Okay, Okay, he hasn't changed it.

896
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 7: He knows he hasn't changed it, and feels that's a valid.

897
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 6: Excuse for the mix up.

898
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 7: He's running away from tons of debt collectors, so now

899
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 7: starting to put together to the dots of why he's.

900
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 6: Not updating his address.

901
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 7: If it was a true mistake, part of me thought

902
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 7: possibly he might not have the audacity to reach out

903
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 7: to me about the gift to avoid awkwardness or shame

904
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 7: due to the nature of the gift. I know if

905
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 7: I was in his shoes, I would have written that

906
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 7: off as a loss, moved on with my life, and

907
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 7: bought a replacement. To avoid awkward and cringey conversation, I've

908
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 7: taken the advice of many here and bought a return

909
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 7: to sender a stamp from Amazon good to use on

910
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 7: everything else I get from here on out. Until then,

911
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 7: I hope he doesn't just show up at my house unannounced,

912
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 7: because I'm not sure if I'm going to respond. I'm

913
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 7: going to think about the package one more night before

914
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 7: sending it into the ABYSS. Additional update for clarity on

915
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 7: the affair baby. I'm getting a lot of questions on

916
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 7: the timeline of the affair baby. The baby was born

917
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 7: last year, calculating conception date based on the do date

918
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 7: he knocked her up while we were still married, that

919
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 7: was assumed. Yeah, I think op's just doubling. Yeah, I

920
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 7: didn't say conception based on birth date because the baby

921
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 7: was born three months early. How did I find out?

922
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 7: Friends on social media? How did I know the details?

923
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 6: He told me?

924
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 7: Info overshared in several of his excuses as to why

925
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 7: he couldn't meet with the estate attorney back when I

926
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 7: was removing him from the homes. Deed, more info than

927
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 7: I would have ever cared to know. And there is

928
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 7: a second update. But do you anan other thoughts?

929
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: Just already feels more complicated than in the about what about.

930
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: Like the whole story, it's always gets Reddit.

931
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: Like just send it back and.

932
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: In there we go. Yeah, well, I think it's like

933
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 6: we live for the drama here.

934
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 7: But I think it's like it is kind of something

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 7: that you have to think hard about, not necessarily on

936
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 7: what to do, but it is just something that would

937
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 7: probably bring up all of these emotions.

938
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 4: I understand that, like the emotional context and story behind

939
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: it is so much larger than this scenario.

940
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 7: M hm.

941
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: And that being said, if you don't want to deal

942
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: with Just send it.

943
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 7: Back, return it, and now it's out of your hands.

944
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 7: I didn't think this post would blow up like it did.

945
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 7: I'm a little nervous that he's going to see the

946
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 7: post and know it's about him, even though this is

947
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 7: a throwaway account, but part of me doesn't care. Thank

948
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 7: you to everyone for the advice and for reminding me

949
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 7: that I owe him nothing. It also brought to light

950
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 7: that I'm being entirely too kind to someone who continues

951
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 7: to torment me and use me.

952
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 6: Oh.

953
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 7: Also, I really enjoyed all the creative, toxic ideas of

954
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 7: what to do with the neck.

955
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 6: Boss and I had some good left.

956
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: I thought we were going the other way. I thought

957
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 4: we were going to be responsible.

958
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 6: Well, we don't know yet. We don't know yet.

959
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 7: Despite wanting to say no contact, today I finally responded

960
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 7: to my ex husband's text from yesterday. I wrote, weird,

961
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 7: you didn't change your billing address?

962
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: What Sofia was saying?

963
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, That's what I'm saying. He texts Apple Bay still

964
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 7: is the old billing address? Then freaking change it, dude.

965
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 7: So I responded, it's been a year and he should

966
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 7: probably go through his account. And change his address. As

967
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 7: of last week, anything sent here for him should have

968
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 7: been returned to send her no response, and you should

969
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 7: respond that to us that you're gonna go listen to

970
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 7: full episodes of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,

971
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 7: Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app in search.

972
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: Of bookay storytimes.

973
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: Please like, please.

974
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 7: Respond, please respond, Just tell us in the chat that

975
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 7: you're let's finish the story. To clarify, I do not

976
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 7: have his new address. He went through great lengths to

977
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 7: keep that secret since he lives with a fair partner,

978
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 7: so I can't file a change of address in his

979
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 7: place or forward his debt collection mail to him. He

980
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 7: used his mother's address in our legal documents, so she's

981
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 7: about to start getting a lot of collection mail. I

982
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 7: received the return to senders stamp this morning, and we'll

983
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 7: be sending everything back moving forward until the post office

984
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 7: gets there. I know this isn't as dramatic as hoped,

985
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 7: so sorry to disappoint.

986
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 6: As for the package, what package, No, we.

987
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 7: Don't know what that means. It means that return that

988
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 7: she could have just returned to Seton.

989
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: I'm disappointed. I'm not my husband is acting suspicious, so

990
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: I hired a private investigator. My husband, male forty seven,

991
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: and I female, forty four, have been married for just

992
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: over a decade, and it has been, for the most part,

993
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: a loving marriage centered around her two beautiful children. By

994
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: the way, this comes from you Dash Choice Evidence in

995
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty three, and if you want to submit your

996
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: own stories, to go to Rokay Storytime. So I've read it,

997
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: so of course I've had grievances. He travels a lot

998
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 4: for work, is constantly glued to his phone, and sometimes

999
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: would abruptly pop out for Errand's quotes that he has

1000
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: always been incredibly vague about. I'm going to get eggs.

1001
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's surname form it egg sounds hot eggs.

1002
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: Initially, they didn't concern me too much. He's a very

1003
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: demanding job that has allowed us to have a lifestyle

1004
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: I never thought possible, meant that I could leave work

1005
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: to be with children, to take us on wonderful holidays,

1006
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: send the children to a great school. I always felt

1007
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 4: that complaining to him about his work, phone, computer and

1008
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: random emergencies would be so selfish considering everything he does

1009
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: for us, it actually would just be healthy communication. However,

1010
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: two weeks ago I started getting really suspicious after I

1011
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: had found a love sock in the inside pocket of

1012
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: his blazer. There was no reason for him to have

1013
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: it there as we only have spicy sleep at home

1014
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: and frankly, it isn't something we do as often as

1015
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: we used to. This prompted me to do something I

1016
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: never thought I would do, but I found an opportunity

1017
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 4: to get into his phone when he wasn't looking.

1018
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 6: That's bad.

1019
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: We're going into we don't trust each other mode.

1020
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 7: The relationship's already over.

1021
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 4: I first looked at his photos but couldn't find anything.

1022
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 4: Then I thought I would check his messaging apps WhatsApp Telegram.

1023
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 4: Both were password locked. Only I message could be accessed,

1024
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: but there was barely anything there. At this point at

1025
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: a sinking feeling something was up. Last year, our friend

1026
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: was in a similar situation and use a digital investigator

1027
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: to learn more about her absent and secretive fiance. The

1028
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: investigator found out that this man had been living a

1029
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: complete double life with a law long term girlfriend in

1030
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: Edinburgh and unbelievably, a whole business he had set up

1031
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 4: and was earning money from. She had no idea about

1032
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 4: the business or all the money he was earning from

1033
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: it and no doubt spending oh on his girlfriend. I

1034
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 4: asked for the investigator's details and requested that they pull

1035
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: together anything and everything they could find about my husband.

1036
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: And so the investigator spent about a week digging online

1037
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: and came back to me with the report that changed

1038
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: my life wherever. I got a call from the investigator

1039
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: warning me that my husband's report would be a very

1040
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: difficult read and then I should open it in a

1041
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: private time when I would be able to process it fully.

1042
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 4: Since I received it, I have barely been able to eat,

1043
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: sleep properly, take care of the kids, or speak to him.

1044
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: And yet he is so absent minded he doesn't even

1045
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: realize something is wrong. It turns out that my husband

1046
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: of over ten years has been having an affair with

1047
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: the woman fifteen years junior, financing this woman's lifestyle and

1048
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: her failed business venture. Attended it would have been fine

1049
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 4: if it was successful, attending spicy sleep parties with her

1050
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: where they have spicy sleep with other partners. Posting in

1051
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: a revolting online spicy sleep forum, including pictures of his

1052
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: genitals and details his regular user into the internet videos

1053
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: of spicy people doing spicy acts and escorts to his

1054
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: creepy online friends. Based on these posts online has clearly

1055
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: been spending thousands on escorts as far back as seven

1056
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: years ago. I have no idea where to go from here.

1057
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. I have no idea

1058
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: how to confront him about this or if I should

1059
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: see a lawyer first. I know the obvious decision is

1060
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: to simply divorce. But our children are nine and seven,

1061
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: and I have loved him since we first met fourteen

1062
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 4: years ago, and I know that I have a place

1063
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: in his heart too. In spite of these actions. If

1064
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 4: he is truly a regular user of what then is

1065
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 4: there a way to get through this? If he agrees

1066
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: to treatment by user, does he mean like addiction to

1067
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: spicy and love? Yeah? I'm a complete mess and I

1068
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 4: can't talk about this to anyone in Parson just yet.

1069
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: Any advice you have for me would be really appreciated.

1070
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: We have some relevant comments.

1071
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 6: You have to divorce him, like it's not it's I

1072
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 6: don't think it.

1073
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: Or you can just join in.

1074
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 6: No, this man has.

1075
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 7: Been lying to you for seven seven.

1076
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: Years, at least seven years at least at least half

1077
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: the time you've known him.

1078
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, just because you have you guys, have it?

1079
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: Does he needs to get tested for str.

1080
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 7: Absolutely, like, not only has he lied to you, but

1081
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 7: he has put your life in danger.

1082
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1083
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 7: Uh and just yeah, I think that for your sake

1084
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 7: and for your kid's sake. Honestly, I don't think staying

1085
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 7: together would be the good, the best option for them

1086
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 7: or for you.

1087
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I can't imagine making this work. Yeah no, if

1088
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: you have it seems like there has been little communication

1089
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: marriage already. So if you're going from like zero to

1090
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: like ninja level communication to be able to repair this,

1091
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: like that's that might be a miracle. So it's not

1092
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Speaker 4: looking Yeah, like that is possible. All right. We have

1093
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Speaker 4: some relevant comments. Comments are one, do not confront him.

1094
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: Go see a high powered attorney to see how you

1095
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: can come out on top. A good lawyer will get

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00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: him to cover services. Get your finances together, Get spousal

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00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 4: support too for compensation the money spent on icy workers

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00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: and affairs, child support, have him cover college for both children.

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Speaker 4: Pay for all schooling and insurance till twenty six. Get

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00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: the child tax credits for each year. Because of his

1101
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: chronic infidelity being the cause of the divorce. You can

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00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: get more than half in the divorce unless you're in

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00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: a no fault state. Also see if you live in

1104
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: a state where you can sue her for alienation of affection.

1105
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 4: Get tested asap. Let your lawyer guide you all what

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00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: to do before you let him know. Also to see

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00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: as many high powered attorneys, what about some lower powered

1108
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: attorneys like midpowered too. Maybe some myths as you can

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00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: so you can have the best shark and cripple his

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00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: ability to use them as a lawyer. Don't forget all

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00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: of his assets, investments and retirement. You're going to ruin

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Speaker 4: this man's life.

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Speaker 7: You probably is, I mean, well, actually maybe not cheat,

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00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 7: but this commentary is.

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00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: This commentar is around this man's life as for a

1116
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 4: forensic financial audit for any hidden monies. Build him for everything,

1117
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 4: and do not leave the marri Well home, make slappy

1118
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 4: phallic item, move out. I'm sorry you're dealing with this,

1119
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: but you got to strike hard and be smart and

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00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: don't silver line anything or take his word on anything.

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00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: That is an approach from a person who seems to

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: be very hurt by many people in their life.

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Speaker 7: But maybe it's gone through some I don't know if

1124
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 7: a similar situation.

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Speaker 4: But it might be the person offering this has been No,

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00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: they've been screwed. It's either they've been screwed over in

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00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 4: their life or they're a lawyer who wants to get hired.

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Speaker 6: Exactly could be a lawyer? Is like you should find

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00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 6: the best lawyer, the most expensive.

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Speaker 4: Lawyer in the land, who I have some contacts. It's me,

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00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: It's just me, it's me, all right, OPI thanks for this. Sadly,

1132
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 4: because we are in the UK, cheating doesn't have much

1133
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 4: of a bearing on divorce outcomes. However, my solicitor is

1134
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: among the best in the UK, and I trust that

1135
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 4: we are going to do some real damage. Commentary too.

1136
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you're going through this. Please excuse me. How

1137
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: much does it cost the higher private investigator?

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Speaker 6: Yes questions?

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00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: Oh p hello, sorry to only be responding now. It

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00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: costs only two hundred fifty pounds. That's surprising.

1141
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 6: Was per hour? Though?

1142
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: Like, what's the for an initial sweep? But this is

1143
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: also an online Yeah, but we also don't know how

1144
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: far private investigator. They're not like following him in a

1145
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 4: car with fineox.

1146
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's less interesting.

1147
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: And then once some fishy things were found, I pay

1148
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: more for some additional hours of digging. All right, we

1149
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: have an update. Woo. First of all, I like to

1150
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 4: thank almost every single one of you who has commented

1151
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: to leave me advice or message me privately. I took

1152
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: a lot of advice on board, especially legally speaking, and

1153
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: this has proven to be a great benefit. I apologize

1154
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Speaker 4: for my long absence and lack of replies. I hope

1155
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: the update below can explain it. I chose to wait

1156
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: until after New Year's as I did not want to

1157
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: rob the children of one last Christmas and New Year's

1158
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: holidays of family. You've got to give them the best

1159
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 4: freaking Christmas in New Year's possible. They're like, oh my god,

1160
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: I've never got this many gifts, and you're like, that's

1161
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 4: because your father ruined our lives.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and make sure that like no, yeah, no, one,

1163
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 7: don't don't tell them right after Christmas.

1164
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 6: Give it at least like three weeks, maybe two weeks.

1165
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. In the meantime, I researched solicitors and sought recommendations

1166
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: from trusted friends. Rather humilitatingly, I did, after much urging

1167
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: on this website, also schedule and go through with an

1168
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: STI test. Great. It was horrifically embarrassing. I am relieved

1169
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: to say that it came negative. Amazing, that's great. I

1170
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 4: don't know how I could have coped if he had

1171
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: got to me sick because of his revolting actions. Yeah,

1172
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: that would have added like a whole new layer onto everything.

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00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: He made my job incredibly easy by flying out for

1174
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: in quotes work trip. Not that anything he says could

1175
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 4: ever be trusted. On the second and I immediately got

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00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: the ball rolling, met with the solicitor, packed up all

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Speaker 4: his belongings into six suitcases, had the locks change, and

1178
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 4: spoke to child psychologists to work out the best way

1179
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: to explain things to the kids, who is are far

1180
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: too young to understand the full picture. Of course, fast

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00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: forward to a week later, and upon his return, I'm,

1182
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Speaker 4: having made sure that children were packed up by my

1183
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: mother after school, greeted him to a hallway full of

1184
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: suitcases and divorce papers. Okay, I'd printed out the report

1185
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: in full and started walking through it before he started

1186
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: breaking down in tears. It was a compulsion and he

1187
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: was unbelievably stressed, and that if I left him he

1188
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: would have no choice but to marry the other woman,

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00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: whereas he would end it immediately if I were to

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Speaker 4: take him back. This last part was truly the nail

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00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: in the coffin. I don't think he even realizes how

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00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: manipotal is that comment was to make. After hours of

1193
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: a back and forth and of his groveling, I gave up.

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00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: He was left at the bottom of the stairs an

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Speaker 4: entrance to our home with his suitcases, waiting for a

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00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: cab to take him to god knows where. There was

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: still a length, lengthy legal process ahead, and unfortunately it

1198
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: turns out that him being unfaithful etc. Doesn't really impact

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Speaker 4: how assets might be divided following in the legal battle. However,

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Speaker 4: I'm confident that my solicitor will get the outcome I

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00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: need to keep the house and live independently. In terms

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00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: of the children, I would rather not discuss them so

1203
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 4: as to keep it private. But it has been an

1204
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 4: incredibly difficult adjustment, and sometimes I do feel guilty. As

1205
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: for myself, I'm still completely heartbroken, and frankly I don't

1206
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: ever hope to find love again. You will, you will.

1207
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 4: I just don't think I could quite trust like that again.

1208
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 4: But you never have to lose your trust if you

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Speaker 4: in relationships. Just kidding, we'll probably do the opposite because

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Speaker 4: you're going to be hearing all these kind of stories.

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Speaker 6: This is not the place for trust and relationships.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Finally, I'd like to just add that while most

1216
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 4: comments here have been lovely and supportive, I did get

1217
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 4: a number of comments and private messages blaming me for

1218
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: my soon to be ex husband's behavior, claiming I did

1219
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: not give him sufficient spicy attention and then I shouldn't

1220
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: complain because he provided me with a surtain lifestyle. Firstly,

1221
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: these comments are awful in a.

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Speaker 5: Double life, you know, father by day and slinging it

1223
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 5: left and right by night.

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: Finally, these comments are awful and betray a repulsive worldview

1225
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: with regards to spicy sleep, intimacy, and marriage. Secondly, our

1226
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: ailing spicy sleep life was not my doing and was

1227
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: at times a criticism I myself had of our relationship,

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00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: not the other way around. Yeah, because he was having

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00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 4: all the spicy sleep people want.

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Speaker 7: He was going around and she was like, hey, what's

1231
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 7: going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: He was like, I'm busy ye woods.

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00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'm I'm not rude because he already had

1235
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: like ten spicy sleep partners. Thirdly, just because someone fries

1236
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 4: you with a lifestyle doesn't entitle them to treat you

1237
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: as if you're nothing, because people don't own people with

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: no respect and no honesty. I would have hoped all

1239
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: would be aware of that. Relevant comments coming to one

1240
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: affairs do matter. If you can account for all the

1241
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 4: money he spent on the other women, you deserve half

1242
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: of that and is often awarded in court because he

1243
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 4: spent marital money, which is half yours come through credit

1244
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 4: card and banying statements for hotel, restaurant gift purchases that

1245
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 4: you never received. This process is painful, but you deserve

1246
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: your half of everything he's spent on dating her. If

1247
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 4: you can't bring yourself to do it, hire someone who

1248
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 4: will hire the same pi. Yeah, like I got another

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Speaker 4: job for you higher magnum pia Oh hom Sellic Tom Selleck.

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Speaker 4: It can also be used as a powerful bargaining tool

1251
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: if he doesn't want other people to know what he

1252
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: did it commented two hours of groveling. What a sorry reaction. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad he didn't get you sick, and I hope

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: the best for you and your kids as you move on.

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Speaker 7: old and a nine month old. My husband left her

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Speaker 7: this weekend. I'm on the board of directors for a

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Speaker 7: local nonprofit organization. I had to attend an event for

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 7: that organization this past Saturday, and I was gone for

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Speaker 7: most of the day.

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Speaker 6: My husband was.

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Speaker 7: Supposed to be home with our kids. I texted him

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Speaker 7: a few times and he responded. When I called around midday,

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00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 7: he didn't respond, but that's not very unusual. Shortly after that,

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Speaker 7: I got a call from my mom. She said my

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Speaker 7: son had just called and when she asked him what

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 7: he and his sister were doing, he said they were

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Speaker 7: both watching TV. When she asked where their dad was,

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Speaker 7: he said his dad wasn't there. My mom asked him

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Speaker 7: several other questions, and from my son's responses, she believed

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Speaker 7: he was telling the truth and that my husband wasn't there,

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00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 7: and that there was no adult there at all. She

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00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 7: said he didn't seem scared to be alone or worried

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Speaker 7: about where his dad was at. He just called her

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Speaker 7: to chat. He has a tablet designed for children with

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00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 7: pre programmed contexts that he can call. It's only a

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Speaker 7: few people, just family members.

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Speaker 4: He's a resilient of five year old. You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: dad's out, but you know, what's up with you? Grahammy.

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Speaker 6: He's like, I'm doing pretty good. I'm holding a baby

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 4: We're fine.

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Speaker 7: W I left the event immediately and began texting and

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01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 7: calling my husband repeatedly. He didn't respond to my first

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Speaker 7: several attempts. It took him about ten minutes. I was

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Speaker 7: halfway home at that point to respond. I was so confused,

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 7: so worried, really mad, and I asked him where he was.

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Speaker 7: He said he was at home. I told him our

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Speaker 7: son had just told his grandmother that he was a

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Speaker 7: home alone with his baby sister watching TV about fifteen

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Speaker 7: minutes ago. My husband denied it, and I told him

1304
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 7: I was too upset to talk and drive. When I

1305
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 7: got home, I checked on the kids right away and

1306
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 7: they were both fine. I asked my husband again, where

1307
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 7: was he? He said he was home the entire time.

1308
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 7: He didn't know what our son was talking about, but

1309
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 7: he must have just been confused since he had gone

1310
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 7: to the basement to do some laundry. I ran down

1311
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 7: to the basement. It was the same load of laundry

1312
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 7: I'd thrown in the dryer the night before. He didn't

1313
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 7: do any laundry when I was gone. I asked my

1314
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 7: husband why my son would be confused about whether his

1315
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 7: dad was home or not. Where in our home would

1316
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 7: he have gone? And for how long for our son

1317
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 7: to think his dad wasn't home. That doesn't make sense.

1318
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 6: With a five year.

1319
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 7: Old and a nine month old, you wouldn't leave them

1320
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 7: unattended that long. Why was he nowhere to be found.

1321
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 7: When my mom asked my son to go check certain

1322
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 7: areas of the house, I begged my husband to just

1323
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 7: admit it, to stop treating me like an idiot, and

1324
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 7: to stop accusing our son of lying. Just tell me

1325
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 7: the truth, because being lied to right to my face

1326
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 7: is so incredibly maddening. He insists he was home, but

1327
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 7: he can't come up with any believable story of where

1328
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 7: he was at or what he was doing that time.

1329
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 4: What does he says?

1330
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 7: Well, he's claiming that he was in the basement doing laundry.

1331
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: Okay, but is that story changing? Did she not say?

1332
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 4: But the load is the same load before?

1333
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 6: I said it was.

1334
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 7: The same load I'd thrown in the dryer the night before.

1335
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: He didn't do any laundry when.

1336
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: It was gone?

1337
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: Says what he's saying, He.

1338
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 6: Insists, who's home?

1339
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 7: The way he answers me when I ask him about

1340
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 7: this and demand truthful answers is so dismissive. When I

1341
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 7: tell him, you left her children alone, he quickly says, no,

1342
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 7: I didn't, So anyway, what I'm sorry, I mean, if

1343
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 7: someone's accusing you of that, if you didn't actually do it,

1344
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 7: you'd be like I swear, I was like, just like

1345
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 7: a I'm so sorry if you I'm so sorry that

1346
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 7: our son thought I wasn't there, and I'll make sure

1347
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 7: that I'm more like you would.

1348
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it wouldn't just say so anyway.

1349
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not blaming Ope. But if a op

1350
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: is maybe screaming, which I understand she's upset, maybe it's

1351
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, people deal with receiving a lot of

1352
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 4: charge and there. Maybe it's just like too much. It

1353
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: was like I was here, you know, any I can't

1354
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 4: deal with this. I don't know.

1355
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,959
Speaker 7: Possibly, possibly I am convinced he was gone. We don't

1356
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 7: have a ring camera, but at least one of our

1357
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 7: neighbors does. I'm so upset about this that I'm tempted

1358
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 7: to ask our neighbor for the ring footage. I had

1359
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 7: to go out of my car and scream and cry

1360
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 7: because I got so upset. Of course, I didn't want

1361
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 7: my kids to see my reaction. I can't put into

1362
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 7: words how upset I am about the fact that I

1363
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 7: know he must have really left them alone, but have

1364
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 7: no proof, and I'm being treated like I'm just a

1365
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 7: paranoid nutcase of a mother slash woman.

1366
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 6: By him.

1367
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to be dismisses dismissive. I was trying

1368
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 4: to paint a whole picture of it. But I do

1369
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 4: want to say that you're upset and worried about your children,

1370
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 4: and you deserve for your anger to be received and

1371
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 4: to be assured for you to not be made crazy.

1372
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 7: And also it seems like potentially, when given that she

1373
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 7: just said she went to the car to go like

1374
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 7: scream and cry, I don't know how much of that

1375
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 7: was actually like that emotion was brought out when she

1376
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 7: was inside the house because she might have been wanting

1377
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 7: to keep it kind of cool for the kids.

1378
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: Oh so, so.

1379
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 6: It might not in all of that like anger and stuff.

1380
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: But also it seemed the way she was she was

1381
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: still making accusations.

1382
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1383
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 7: Update last weekend, my husband left our five year old

1384
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 7: and nine month old home alone while I was gone

1385
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 7: and then refused to admit it or provide a plausible explanation.

1386
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 7: Since then, we've had many arguments about it. I've been

1387
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 7: living in a constant state of anger and frustration. I

1388
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 7: don't want to fight about it anymore, but I couldn't

1389
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 7: help it, and I kept bringing up again and again.

1390
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 7: I couldn't lay low and pretend to get over it

1391
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 7: while I waited for him to do it again and

1392
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 7: catch him in whatever was going on. I also knew

1393
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: that demanding he tell me the truth wasn't going to

1394
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 7: get me anywhere, since he'd been refusing to talk and

1395
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 7: deflecting for days. All it was doing was making me

1396
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 7: enraged and feel like I was about to have a

1397
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 7: brain aneurysm. I told him to hand me his phone

1398
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 7: so I could check his location at the time.

1399
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: He refused.

1400
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 7: He said he wouldn't do it and that it was

1401
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 7: a violation of his privacy. He won't be treated that

1402
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 7: way and refuses to give into my delusions. You think

1403
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 7: I enjoy being in a situation where I have to

1404
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 7: beg my husband to show me his phone so I

1405
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 7: can see where he was at. I hate it. I

1406
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 7: don't want to live that way. I told him it's simple.

1407
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 7: If he was really at home the entire time, just

1408
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 7: prove it. Why wouldn't you want to clear this whole

1409
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 7: thing up. I got so mad that he wouldn't turn

1410
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 7: over his phone that I told him I was going

1411
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,479
Speaker 7: to the neighbors to get their doorbell footage. At first,

1412
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 7: he was like, fine, go do it. He didn't think

1413
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 7: I actually would. He knows I don't like to air

1414
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 7: drama to others, so he's probably figured I just swallow

1415
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 7: all of this crap he'd been giving me.

1416
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 4: So is this like the next door neighbor, Are they

1417
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 4: across the street and there is like? Are they going

1418
01:04:59,280 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: to get a direction?

1419
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1420
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 6: I don't know, we'll say.

1421
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 7: Luckily, I was totally being driven by anger at this point,

1422
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 7: so nothing was going to stop me from going to this.

1423
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 4: I'm too anger for people. Please.

1424
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, everyone can know as long as they have information.

1425
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 7: When I actually started to go out the door, he

1426
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 7: tried to stop me and followed me. At the door,

1427
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 7: I felt pure anger rushing through my veins, nothing else.

1428
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 7: The neighbor, who I probably said less than ten words

1429
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 7: to in the entire time we've lived here, told me

1430
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 7: he'd send me the footage. I went home told my

1431
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 7: husband that the neighbor didn't have the footage from that

1432
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 7: day anymore.

1433
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: Oh, Slytherina.

1434
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 6: Cunning and told him I just.

1435
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 4: Needed people too, guys, Well, that is it.

1436
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 6: Cunning is a Slytherin trade.

1437
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 4: We never said they weren't. This is just named a

1438
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 4: typical southerin trade. And now you're saying that, and now

1439
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 4: you're defensive. I'm defending the sly Slytherins.

1440
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 7: And told them I just needed to go to the

1441
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 7: store and cool off. So I put the kids in

1442
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 7: the car and went and parked somewhere while I waited

1443
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 7: for the neighbor to send me the footage. I have

1444
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 7: the neighbor's number now, and he told me if I

1445
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 7: need any more footage, he will be happy to.

1446
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 6: Give it to me.

1447
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: Conspiracy. Yeah, she's gonna start sleeping with the neighbor that is. Yeah.

1448
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I'd be happy to give it

1449
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 6: to you. And also if you want to come and.

1450
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 4: Watch it, yeah, you can watch my cane on my

1451
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 4: TV or something with your glass of wine. And also

1452
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: I could watch the TV from the jacuzzie. Join me

1453
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 4: as we watched this footage. Her husband got a jacuzzie

1454
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: with a TV set up. Yeah, I would cheat on

1455
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 4: with this man too.

1456
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 7: The video shows a blue car that I don't recognize

1457
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 7: show up and park in our driveway. A blonde woman

1458
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 7: gets out of the car and goes towards my house.

1459
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 7: She walks on the outside of our garage towards the

1460
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 7: gate leading to our backyard. The gate is too far

1461
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 7: back and out of the way to be seen on

1462
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 7: the doorbell footage. She in her car were there for.

1463
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty three minutes.

1464
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 7: Imagine that the car leaves right around the time that

1465
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 7: my husband called me to say he was home and

1466
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 7: had been home the entire time, as I was rushing

1467
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 7: home in a panic and calling him on repeat. One

1468
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 7: of two possibilities as to where they went. She either

1469
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 7: came in through the side door of the house, which

1470
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 7: does provide direct access to the basement, or and what

1471
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 7: I think is more likely, is that they were in

1472
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 7: the backmost area of our yard, which is a.

1473
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 6: Gated pool area.

1474
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 7: Immediately behind our house is a grass lawn, Then you

1475
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 7: step down a few steps and we have a pattiout,

1476
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 7: and then there's a fully gated area where the pool is.

1477
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 6: It's not like you.

1478
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 7: Think of when you picture a gated pool. It's a

1479
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 7: full six foot wood fence all the way around, plus

1480
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 7: even taller landscaping for added privacy. You can't see into

1481
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 7: that area at all unless you're inside. So, before we

1482
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 7: go any further, he was technically at.

1483
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 6: Home, thank you, cheating, but at home.

1484
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 4: Hey, this could be a coworker that needed help, private help,

1485
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 4: private help in the privacy in his pool. They were

1486
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: naked pool.

1487
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 6: And is that a crime?

1488
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 4: Is that a crime to help your naked friends?

1489
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 6: Regardless?

1490
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 7: Like he is at home, but he still was not

1491
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 7: watching a nine month old and that is a huge

1492
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 7: Just you just adding on to the fact that he's

1493
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 7: probably okay. I think it's more likely that they were

1494
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 7: back there because my son said his dad's keys were

1495
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 7: gone and we kept that gate locked with a key.

1496
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 7: The pool is closed for winter.

1497
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 4: But just Casandra sorry, says maybe he was doing the

1498
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 4: blonde laundry. Yeah, possibly, possibly, could be friends, just friends,

1499
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 4: but they're friends.

1500
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 7: But there is one building back there, sort of like

1501
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 7: a shed. We converted into a changing area.

1502
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 6: How freaking big is your house?

1503
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 7: And there is a covered patch they converted a I

1504
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 7: just change in that house.

1505
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 4: We're in a shed right now.

1506
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's different. We don't have a pool shed.

1507
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 7: The pool is closed for winter, but there is one

1508
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 7: small building back there, sort of like a shad. We

1509
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 7: converted changing area, and there is a covered patio with furniture.

1510
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 7: I'm convinced that's where they were. So technically he was oh,

1511
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 7: but in an area totally removed from the house and

1512
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 7: where he couldn't see or hear the kids.

1513
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 4: If something, yeah, that's yep.

1514
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 7: And the kids didn't know where he was incredibly dangerous

1515
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 7: again nine month old. I asked him how he could

1516
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 7: explain this. What were they doing? I obviously don't need

1517
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 7: him to tell me what they were doing, But for

1518
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 7: some reason I still had hope that he'd finally be honest.

1519
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 7: He wasn't contrite. He showed no remorse. He was just like, yeah,

1520
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 7: she was here, but I obviously never left.

1521
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 4: What's up with this guy? He's just like, yeah, but

1522
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 4: I didn't leave the house.

1523
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 7: We established I never left.

1524
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't see why you're upset here. Yeah she did

1525
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: with her at the house house. I never lied.

1526
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 6: Who is she? How long has this been going on?

1527
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 7: And if he's going to be such a disgusting, despicable

1528
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 7: excuse of a man, then why couldn't he at least

1529
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 7: have found any other time and any other lie or

1530
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 7: excuse other than when he was home alone with our kids.

1531
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 7: I told him, I know this has happened before, and

1532
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 7: I demanded to know how many times he's done this

1533
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 7: when he's been alone with the kids. He swears this

1534
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 7: is the only time, and he's known for being incredibly truthful.

1535
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 4: Is not true this This woman did not come over

1536
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 4: for the first time and and do these acts in

1537
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 4: the shed. Wow, his kids were home and that that

1538
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: was the best time they could find for their first engagement.

1539
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, that would be ridiculous. But he still doesn't

1540
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 7: have the balls to confess to what they were doing.

1541
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 7: I don't believe him that this was the only time.

1542
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 6: FYI.

1543
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 7: I still have so many questions, and I still feel

1544
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 7: like my heart is beating two hundred times a minute,

1545
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 7: my blood pressure is through the roof. I've cried a lot, sobbed,

1546
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 7: begged for someone to help me, yelled, screamed, ordered a

1547
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 7: bunch of books about divorce and custody.

1548
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 6: And you know what.

1549
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 7: The next day, after our multiple explosive fights, him putting

1550
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 7: his hands on me, whoa and me seeing the evidence,

1551
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 7: he acted like everything.

1552
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 6: Was totally normal.

1553
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 4: What's up, Wed?

1554
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1555
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 7: Really?

1556
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 6: Anyway? Breakfast?

1557
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: You be hungry?

1558
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? Any amount of like anything being off is like,

1559
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous. She's like, how dare you cheat on me?

1560
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,440
Speaker 4: And he's like, you're overreact?

1561
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, what are you talking?

1562
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 4: What you can you, when's my breakfast?

1563
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: Righty?

1564
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 7: And like none of that stuff ever happened. I woke

1565
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 7: up still seething, exhausted, broken, and he's acting like everything's

1566
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 7: totally normal.

1567
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 6: He said.

1568
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 7: He was ordering breakfast to be delivered from our favorite

1569
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 7: breakfast place. He asked if I wanted to go to

1570
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 7: the store together later and try this new recipe for

1571
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 7: chili tonight. Why would I want to do any of

1572
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 7: these things with you now? Absolutely no acknowledgement of anything

1573
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 7: he's done or what's transpired between.

1574
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 6: Us in the past few days.

1575
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 7: He deserves an oscar for how well he was able

1576
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 7: to act like none of that happened, Completely comfortable and

1577
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 7: non faced.

1578
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 6: By the way, you can be.

1579
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 7: Comfortable knowing that we have full episodes just like this

1580
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 7: for you to listen to you on Spotify, Apple Podcasts

1581
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 7: or your favorite podcast app just search a focus story

1582
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 7: time and there is just a wee bit left of

1583
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 7: this story.

1584
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,440
Speaker 6: But do you have any final thoughts?

1585
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 4: People are bringing up some like some interesting things. Okay,

1586
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: so scary to think about how often he may have

1587
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 4: left them on supervised sun seems pretty comfortable with the situation. Yeah, yeah,

1588
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 4: most five year olds would be like I see no

1589
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 4: parent in sight. That's really scary, and and he was

1590
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 4: just still with it. He was like, yeah, Grammy, yeah,

1591
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: but it's cool.

1592
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 7: It was in It might have been a situation where

1593
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 7: that I was like I'll be right back or something,

1594
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 7: and I was like.

1595
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 6: You know, and that went out.

1596
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's possible. But there's just a lot of strange

1597
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 4: things about this, especially like what op is saying, how

1598
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 4: she's bring up his infidelity. This is this is wild,

1599
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 4: and he's just like is not He's not acting like that,

1600
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 4: and he's.

1601
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 6: Just acting like it doesn't matter.

1602
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's which is just strange.

1603
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, oh, I didn't cheat on you. It's

1604
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 6: just like, yeah she was here, okay.

1605
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, just now remorse and curious, like what's going on

1606
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 4: with that?

1607
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 6: Mentally crazy.

1608
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 7: I know that it's a waste of my energy, but

1609
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 7: I just desperately want him to admit the full truth

1610
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 7: of what he did that day and any other day

1611
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 7: with this woman. I want to hear it from him.

1612
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 7: It won't change whatever he's done, but he could at

1613
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 7: least have the respect and decency to be honest now

1614
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 7: that he's been caught. That's a ridiculous thought, though, right,

1615
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 7: How foolish of me to expect this man to show

1616
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 7: decency and honesty. Now, if he was a decent and

1617
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 7: honest man, then he wouldn't have had a strange woman

1618
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 7: over to our house and been out of sight from

1619
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 7: our kids for.

1620
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 6: Twenty three minutes.

1621
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 7: His continued denial and refusal to admit to anything other

1622
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 7: than the bare minimum, his attitude like I'm somehow being

1623
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 7: controlling or infringing on his rights by asking for information

1624
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 7: that's almost more hurtful than him cheating on That is

1625
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 7: the end of that's right,