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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. He did it? Did Sean

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Speaker 1: Diddy Combs order a million dollar hit on Tupac Shakur?

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Speaker 1: Bell documents say, oh yes, he did. Good evening, I'm

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: New allegations made against disgraced rappers Sean Diddy Combs.

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Speaker 1: Well, the walls are falling in around Sean Puffy aka

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Speaker 1: Diddy Combs. As we learn in court documents, he is

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Speaker 1: named seventy seven times, at least as it relates to

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Speaker 1: the murder of Tupac Secur. Now it's a very long,

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Speaker 1: it circuitous explanation, but what it boils down to is

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Speaker 1: the East Coast West Coast feud and allegations that he

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Speaker 1: offered one million dollars for the death of two pots

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Speaker 1: Shakur even calling making a phone call just after the

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Speaker 1: hit claiman was that me like somebody else ordered to hit?

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Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 1: what we know right now.

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Speaker 3: But listen, things are not looking good for Sean Diddy Combs.

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Speaker 3: In addition to lawsuits, raids, federal investigation and at secret

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Speaker 3: grand jury, the only living suspect in Tupac Shakur's murder

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Speaker 3: now implicates Puff Daddy in the September seventh, nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: six drive by shooting. A recent court filing for Dwayne

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Speaker 3: KFD Davis's upcoming murder trial mentions Puppy seventy seven times,

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Speaker 3: while Vegas police confirm that Combs has never been and

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Speaker 3: is not a suspect. The mogul silence is deafening.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got to take you into account that KFD

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Speaker 1: get it. But here's the problem with that argument. This

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Speaker 1: It was a profer. What is a profer. A proffer

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Speaker 1: in the judges chamber, sometimes close the courtroom, and you

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Speaker 1: because you need a ruling whether it's admissible or inadmissible.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes that profer of evidence can be so volatile. If

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Speaker 1: And that's what this document is never meant to see

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Speaker 1: the light of day, where Sean Puffy comes is named

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Speaker 1: we know of seventy seven times in the murder, the

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Speaker 1: hit on Tupac Shakur. It wasn't supposed to come out,

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Speaker 1: well it has. You know what, how did the whole

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Speaker 3: The East Coast West Coast refue begins with the near

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Speaker 3: death of Tupac Shakuri Quad Records, Manhattan. Tupac's invited to

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Speaker 3: record when he's attacked by three armed men and shot

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Speaker 3: five times, but lives Vibe magazine says that Sean Puffy

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Speaker 3: Combs and Notorious Big were both at the studio and

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Speaker 4: Tupac's belief Puffy and Big new about the Quad Records

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Speaker 4: attack adds to the feud between colmb's East Coast Bad

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Speaker 4: It escalates when Tupac Shakur, Shug Knight, and Mob Pyru

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Speaker 4: associates run into South Side Crip Baby Lane Anderson at

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Speaker 4: the Vegas Mike Tyson, Bruce Selden fight.

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Speaker 1: Good Gravy that goes back to forever ago. You know what,

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Speaker 1: Let's figure out what's happening straight out to Lauren Colin,

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Speaker 1: joining US investigative reporter, hosts of The Outlier podcast and

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Speaker 1: co host of Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Listen. Have you ever seen Raiders

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Speaker 1: at the Lost Art? And I believe it's the arc

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Speaker 1: seen again. This document, this document has cracked open the

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Speaker 5: He said, you broke the proffer agreement. I told you

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Speaker 5: these things. So in response to his bail request, the

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Speaker 1: Cohen explain in more simple terms if you can, what

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Speaker 1: Combes as ordering the hit on Tupac Shaker a million

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Speaker 6: The light of day, Lincy. Before there's a trial. When

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Speaker 6: there's a trial, we have what's called opening statement. That's

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you has happened. But you got to keep

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Speaker 1: I'm toast guys now. In addition, to all of the

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Speaker 1: other issues, closing in on Sean Puvey Combs. Is he

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Speaker 1: Now the Feds say he has never been a suspect.

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Speaker 1: a box assault. Let's go back to how the whole

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Speaker 7: Tupac Shakur, along with sug Night and members of their entourage,

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Speaker 7: Members of the South Side Content crips, which included Davis

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Speaker 7: That's when Dwayne Davis began to devise a plan to

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Speaker 1: So Robert Crispin joining US, formerly with the Federal Task

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Speaker 1: Force for the US DOJ, now at Crispin Special Investigations.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me sat up by this for one minute,

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Speaker 8: to this profit letter real quick, which in the federal side,

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Speaker 8: going in and proffering what you know and what can

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Speaker 8: further and identify more conspirators.

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Speaker 8: Obviously he then became a police informant. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 8: going to find out. Undercover calls were there. There were

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Speaker 8: the government, meaning we follow you, Nancy, and you go

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Speaker 8: behold it's hey, Nancy. Wow, it's so funny to run

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Speaker 8: into you. And the next thing, you know, we start

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Robin Chrispin, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of you, But I got where's this going? Could you

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Speaker 1: wrap it up? Blease? You put it tight with a

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Speaker 8: I probably tipped the scale that night, and that got

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay that I understand. Hey, the whole thing is

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Speaker 1: Peep spot Orlando Anderson and they began to viciously attack him.

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Speaker 1: Viciously attack him. Okay. After this attack caught on video,

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Speaker 1: Karen with a seat if you're looking for her Karen. So,

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Speaker 1: and they find him. Now, explain to me that response,

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Speaker 1: So what is this?

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm not part of a gang, Nancy, So you're

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Speaker 10: talking about a whole different culture where they get angry.

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Speaker 1: They've been angry, I really believe.

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Speaker 10: Before this even happened, because why did they beat him up?

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Speaker 10: So this folk feud is going on and their response

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Speaker 1: They've been ordered to do that.

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Speaker 10: Anyway, so they needed some kind of an excuse. That's

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Speaker 10: why it's not the kind of thing where you say, oh,

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Speaker 11: March nineteen ninety seven, the Notorious big is in la

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Speaker 1: Okay, so bottom line, Orlando Anderson the suspected shooter who

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Speaker 1: the million dollar hit. Now, I'm going to bring in

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Speaker 1: Her name is Shannon Henry. She's the president founder of

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Speaker 1: sas GO Surviving Assault Standing Strong. It's a nonprofit mission

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Speaker 1: You're hearing all of this about an alleged hit by

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Speaker 1: not a suspect on Secure, Like, there's twenty thousand people

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Speaker 12: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in

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Speaker 1: So now these bombshell documents have emerged from some moldial

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised? If so, why not?

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Speaker 13: Only am I not surprised, but the most important part

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Speaker 1: Nancy.

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Speaker 13: This is thirty years ago, and if we walk through

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Speaker 13: This is just corroborating evidence for who he is and

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that because my experience and domestic violence,

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Speaker 13: Explain that, right, And you know, we want to keep

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Speaker 13: We see it in his career. You know, there's a

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Speaker 13: These are the people that he surrounded himself with, gang members,

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Speaker 1: All these years later, and now we're hearing Sean Puffy

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Speaker 1: Combs offered a million dollar hit for the murder of

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this much to Robert Crispin, private

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Speaker 1: Children investigator. Okay, Robert Crispin, I know the FED is saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not a suspect, but there's a big problem. When

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, clearly it's a problem. But I will

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Speaker 8: tell you from working cases, you got to have coroberating

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Speaker 1: It's tough. You don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 8: But unfortunately, he hasn't been arrested yet, which leads me

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Speaker 6: Would?

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Speaker 8: This has just gone too long. They just don't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I hear what Chrispin is saying, Daryld Cohen, But

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Speaker 1: remember Darald Cohen. Before I prosecuted felonies in inner City Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: I was a FED guys with the FEDS for three years.

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Speaker 1: You know. On one case alone, I had a whole

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Speaker 6: I think Nantcy they're waiting. The magic word here is

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Speaker 6: yet they don't have enough evidence yet in their view,

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Speaker 6: You know that when they get you, they've got you.

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Speaker 6: You can't move left, you can't move right, you can't

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Speaker 6: They have got you every which way, and that's probably

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Speaker 6: They're looking for the murderer of Tupac, but more than that,

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Speaker 6: and they want him bad. He's been associated with far

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Speaker 6: And then they've got the other videos of him being

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Speaker 1: Well, oh what, darryl Uh, I'm not holding my breath.

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Speaker 1: You do know Tupac Shaker was going down in nineteen

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Speaker 3: This Dwayne Keethy d Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder

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Speaker 3: Driving down the strip, they spot Night and Tupac stopped

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Speaker 9: Davis public claims about Tupac's murder reinvigorate the Cave. Vegas

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this, Lauren Colin. It took Keifd claiming

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: And just so you know, he was still bragging about

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. But Nancy, I want to point something out.

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Speaker 5: The fight at the MGM that happened because allegedly Orlando

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Speaker 5: There were bounties for these medallions, so they were getting

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand what Lauren Colin just said. Now,

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Speaker 5: True, well, I want to clarify that though I wanted

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Speaker 1: Second verse, same as the first. Don't care why Tupac

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Speaker 1: for cold blooded murder. I don't care who stole whose

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Speaker 1: A vicious sight broke out and one side vowed revenge.

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Speaker 1: My only question right now to hey with a medallion

430
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Speaker 1: or a feud? Don't care. All I care about right

431
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Speaker 1: now is did Sean Puffy Combs order this hit?

432
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Speaker 2: KEFD claims Diddy paid one million dollars to have Tupac eliminated.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much, and my name popped up

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Speaker 1: seventy seven times in documents, in court documents belonging to

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Speaker 1: the FEDS. I would be worried right now. To Lauren

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Speaker 1: Colin joining us, a host of the Outlier podcast Investigative Reporter,

437
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: isn't it true that Sean Puffy Combs has taken everything

438
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Speaker 1: down from his social media except for one happy birthday

439
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: wish to his daughter?

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00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and he has his La mansion for sale.

441
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: I mean he is keeping a low profile right now.

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Speaker 5: It's also been said that he has obtained three different

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Speaker 5: law offices. I mean, why do you need three.

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00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: I think I know why guys. Did comes order the

445
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: hit on Tupac Shakur. Did he offer a million dollars

446
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: pay day to whoever would kill his rival? And yes,

447
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: Shakour died immediately thereafter according to evidence. Now the fans

448
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: insist he's not a suspect. Okay, listen to this.

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Speaker 7: Within the first few months of the investigation, our detectives

450
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 7: knew most of the information I just briefed you on. However,

451
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 7: we never had the necessary evidence to bring this case

452
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Speaker 7: forward and present it for criminal charges. It wasn't until

453
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Speaker 7: twenty eighteen that this case was reinvigorated as additional information

454
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Speaker 7: came to light related to this homicide, specifically Dwayne Davis's

455
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 7: own emissions to his involvement in this homicide investigation that

456
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Speaker 7: he provided to numerous different media outlets.

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Davis was.

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Speaker 7: The shot caller for this group of individuals that committed

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Speaker 7: this crime, and he orchestrated the plan that was carried

460
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Speaker 7: out to commit this crime.

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Speaker 1: Here being Vegas Police lieutenant, that's Jason Johansson speaking echo

462
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Speaker 1: ing what we heard now private investigator former Fed Robert

463
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Speaker 1: Crispins saying that they are looking for just the right

464
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: connection to tie the assassination of Tupac Shakur to Sean

465
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Puffy Comes doesn't even exist. Fans keep insisting he's not

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Speaker 1: a suspect. You know, Darryl Cohen, you ever heard the

467
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: phrase from Shakespeare? Mean thanks thou dost protest too much?

468
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: I didn't ask them, is diddy? Sean Puffy Comes a

469
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Speaker 1: murder suspect a Shakur's murder. They just keep putting it

470
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Speaker 1: out there. He's not a suspect. He's not a suspect.

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Speaker 6: He's not a suspect until he becomes a defendant. Antie

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Speaker 6: Joeybarra once said it ain't over until it's over, and

473
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Speaker 6: it ain't even close to being over. You just wait

474
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Speaker 6: and saw Sean Puffy Holmes is not going to be

475
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Speaker 6: a suspect ever until he's a defendant. You just wait.

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Speaker 6: Time will tell, And it's certainly been twenty eight years,

477
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 6: so another six months or year doesn't matter. The more

478
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 6: pressure that he is under, the more he is going

479
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: to start wilting and freaking out if he does what

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Speaker 6: I predict he's going to do, and we'll.

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Speaker 1: See Karen starting joining me a renowned psychologist at Karenstark

482
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Speaker 1: dot com Karen. We earlier heard INVESSID reporter Lauren Conlin

483
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Speaker 1: trying to make some feeble attempt to explain why the

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Speaker 1: nephew Orlando Anderson, who's Keith E. D. Davis' younger nephew,

485
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Speaker 1: why he was beaten up so viciously at the MGM

486
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Speaker 1: Grand following the Tyson fite that reportedly Orlando Orlando Anderson

487
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: had stolen a gold I don't mean golden, I mean

488
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: gold medallion, some rap medallion. So he was being attacked.

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Speaker 1: Why does that matter under the law. Revenge as not

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Speaker 1: a defense to murder.

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Speaker 10: And let's look at his If you look at Sean

492
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 10: puvy Cohne's background, right, this is an nefarious, narcissistic guy

493
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 10: who got away with abusing women, doing all kinds of things.

494
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Speaker 10: It doesn't really matter, Nancy, although I could see they

495
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 10: find excuses, but they are looking to destroy each other.

496
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Speaker 10: Their competitive and it's not a professional organization where they

497
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 10: just do their best to do a good job. They

498
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 10: are angry. This is how they are going about their lives.

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Speaker 10: And I wouldn't be surprised if he ordered this hit.

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Speaker 10: They've been saying that for years. Let's just hope that

501
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 10: they actually get him and find something that brings him

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Speaker 10: to justice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, guys, earlier you were hearing how in the

504
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Speaker 1: middle of this bond hearing, a bail hearing Dwayne Davis's bail,

505
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: he interrupts the judge okay, to stop this from coming out.

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Speaker 11: Listen Clark County Prosecutor's opposition to Dwayne Davis's bail mentioned

507
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 11: Sean Combs nearly eighty times. They argue Davis should not

508
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 11: get bail because he admits he orchestrated Shakerz murder on

509
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 11: the promise of payment from Comb's. During a hearing, Davis

510
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 11: cuts off Judge Carly Kearny to argue his claims about

511
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 11: Diddy made during a two thousand and eight profer agreement

512
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Speaker 11: should not be allowed into evidence.

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00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 12: Now, Nova says, how for fifteen years is a doing

514
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 12: all kind of TV or news people.

515
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: A proper agreement. Dwayne Davis jumps up and starts interrupting

516
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: the judge. Okay, to you, Lauren Colin, what happened there

517
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: that was interesting?

518
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: Nancy, He was clearly very upset and very nervous at

519
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: what was about to happen.

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00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Not only that, Nancy.

521
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: Cash Jones, who was an entertainment rapper had already said

522
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: I'm going to put up fifteen percent of your bail,

523
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: Dwayne Davis, and allegedly this was because he wanted once

524
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: Dwayne got out, he wanted him to be part of

525
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: this television series, this documentary, and the judge also was like,

526
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: wait a minute, wait a minute, no way, you're not

527
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: doing either. So PPD he realizes at this point he

528
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 5: is in a world of garbage.

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00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Law enforcement says Diddy is not and never has been,

530
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Speaker 2: a suspect in the killing of Tupac.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're saying. But in a one hundred

532
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: and seventy nine page filing, it's revealed that Dwayne Davis

533
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: confessed to Tupac's murder and implication Sean Puffy comes, so

534
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: are they going to rely on their own documents or

535
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: not listen?

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00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 14: Prosecutors? One hundred and seventy nine page filing reveals that

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00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 14: Dwayne Davis confessed to Tupac's murder ten years prior to

538
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 14: his public statements. Two thousand and eight, Davis is charged

539
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 14: for his participation in an LAPCP ring, facing twenty five

540
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 14: years in prison. The LAPD offers him a profit agreement

541
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Speaker 14: regarding the nineteen ninety six drive by shooting of Shakur,

542
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 14: Davis details the planning, attack and aftermath of the shooting

543
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Speaker 14: down to a confirmation call from Puffy, who allegedly asked,

544
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 14: was that US okay?

545
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? To Shannon Henry joining US president

546
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Speaker 1: founder SASS surviving assault, standing strong reportedly after the hit.

547
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Speaker 1: After Tupac's been shot, it took him six days to die.

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00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: This happened in nineteen ninety six. According to Davis, there

549
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: was a confirmation call, a phone call from Sean Puffy

550
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: Combs after he hears Tupac's been hit, and he says, quote,

551
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: was that us, like somebody else has a hit. That's right,

552
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 13: And I know this is all in line with how

554
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 13: he behaves, making sure that he's everything's being followed through

555
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 13: with making sure that the directives he gives are followed.

556
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 13: My fear is is that it's not what you know,

557
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 13: but what you can prove, and my hope is that

558
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 13: this ties him directly to what has happened to Tupac. Now,

559
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 13: my other fear is with all of this coming out,

560
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 13: that people are going to forget the history of Diddy

561
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 13: and what he's done, and that this distracts us from

562
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 13: the decades of violence and abuse. And I just pray

563
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 13: that this is corroborating evidence and that our victims will

564
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 13: finally see justice, all of them.

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Speaker 1: You know another thing, and you don't normally have this

566
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: to Robert Crispin and Darryl co when I think you

567
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: agree with me. You don't normally only get evidence on tape.

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00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: But guess what we've got it. Listen, oh quick, it's

569
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Speaker 1: not who brought up the amount of one million dollars.

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Speaker 6: H Puffy.

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: So Lauren and Colin joining me, investigative reporter. We are

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Speaker 1: actually hearing and this is all the way from two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight, you hear Davis

574
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Speaker 1: stating that Combs ordered the hit. Explain what we're hearing. Correct.

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Speaker 5: In two thousand and eight, he gave this interview stating

576
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Speaker 5: or kepd gave this interview stating that they were hanging

577
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 5: out in California, a group of people. They were in

578
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 5: a room and Puffy said he went by Puffy at

579
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Speaker 5: the time. I would give anything for Shove's head, he said,

580
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Speaker 5: Shug perhaps that Tupac as well. But we all know

581
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Speaker 5: what happened.

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Speaker 13: After that.

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Speaker 5: Now, KEVD also claimed that he never got the money. Nancy,

584
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: he never got this million dollar Eric zip Martin got

585
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Speaker 5: this money. This is very interesting as well.

586
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Do I care if a hit man didn't get paid. No,

587
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: let's hear the interview again. Please.

588
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 6: He said kill anything when he'll do it.

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Speaker 1: He said it in front of all those people.

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Speaker 6: I'll go and leave it, old crips, we'll wipe it,

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00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 6: oh quick. You know, there's nothing who.

592
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Speaker 4: Brought up the amount of one million dollars?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me stay. It's kind of it's kind of grainy,

594
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: he says. Quote. He said he'd give us anything for them.

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Speaker 1: Dude's head. He said it in front of all of

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Speaker 1: them people. I couldn't believe it. A whole room full

597
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Speaker 1: of crips. Will wipe their ass out quick. You know,

598
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Speaker 1: it's nothing question who brought the amount of one million dollars? Davis?

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00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: He did? Detective Puffy did Davis. Yeah, okay, listen to

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Speaker 1: the rest.

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Speaker 6: Here. You go.

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Speaker 7: Check your records where they will Biggy ever involved in

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Speaker 7: any of these conversations.

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Speaker 14: That you always just good.

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Speaker 1: This is okay, So, Lauren Collin, what are we hearing there?

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Speaker 5: We are hearing that keepd implicates Puffy and says, this

607
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 5: is all Puffy is doing, and listen, I believe it.

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: Do they really want us to think that keypd masterminded

609
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: this entire thing? I mean, do you hear him speak?

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00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: I for one completely believed that Puffy masterminded it, even

611
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Speaker 5: though he's not a suspect. But yeah, this this goes

612
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: back and this could be a big conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: To commit murder charge.

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Speaker 9: Sean didd Comb's legal team has been notified that he

615
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Speaker 9: is the subject of a federal investigation, and the notification

616
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 9: implies that Comb's is quote within the scope of an investigation,

617
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 9: but not a quote target. That designation can be upgraded

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00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 9: or downgraded as the investigation continues. A grand jury is

619
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Speaker 9: reportedly hearing evidence tied to the investigation, but there is

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Speaker 9: no indication that any charges are pending.

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Speaker 1: Similar to what Shannon Henry from SAS and Karen start

622
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Speaker 1: renown psychologists have stated, violence seemingly spills over into other

623
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Speaker 1: areas of Sempa becomes his life. Listen.

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Speaker 14: Vibe magazine editor in chief Danielle Smith has Comb's posen

625
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Speaker 14: angel Wings to go with the tagline the Good, the Bad,

626
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Speaker 14: and the Puffy for the cover of the December ninety

627
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Speaker 14: seven January ninety eight double issue. A few days before

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Speaker 14: the release, Combs insists on approving the cover. Vibe denies

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Speaker 14: his request, and Smith later receives a phone call from

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Speaker 14: Combs threatening to see her quote dead in the trunk

631
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Speaker 14: of a car. Her coworkers rush to hide Smith afraid

632
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Speaker 14: of what Diddy and his posse might do.

633
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Speaker 1: So let me understand this Sean Puffy comes. According to

634
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Speaker 1: this female magazine editor in chief at Vibe Magazine, Danielle Smith,

635
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Speaker 1: she sets up a cover sheet for him. He wants

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Speaker 1: to approve it. She says, no, we don't do that,

637
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Speaker 1: and he threatens that he will see her dead in

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Speaker 1: the trunk of a car. Okay, Karen Starr, what about it?

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00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: No surprise, Nancy.

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Speaker 10: This is his response to everything.

641
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Speaker 1: Think about it.

642
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 10: You do something wrong, you cross this path, and he

643
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 10: is going to say, Okay, you're ending up in this car.

644
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 10: You're ending up shot, you're ending up something, threatening people.

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Speaker 1: And he gets.

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Speaker 10: Away with it for years, along with abusing the women

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Speaker 10: because he's so charming. Everybody thinks he's so wonderful. But

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Speaker 10: not anymore. It's all catching up with him.

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Speaker 1: And of course, what a coinkydink. The next morning, the

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Speaker 1: Vibe office is trashed. Listen.

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Speaker 11: The next morning, staffers find the Vibe office broken into

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Speaker 11: and all of its servers stolen. The entire issue is gone.

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Speaker 11: Editors immediately suspect Combs and his bad boy crew are

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Speaker 11: behind the robbery. Luckily, an employee saved a copy to

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Speaker 11: a personal drive and the magazine makes its delivery for print.

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Speaker 11: Smith says at the time she did not realize the

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Speaker 11: extent of the potential danger Combs post, but now looks

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Speaker 11: back on the incident unnerved.

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Speaker 1: What a coinky dank right. And remember, according to the FEDS,

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Speaker 1: Sean Puffy Combs aka Diddy is not a suspect in

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Speaker 1: the Martyr of Twopot Shaker Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,