1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: from how Stuff Works dot Com? You're getting smarter? Hey there, 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark as staff 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: writer here How Stuff Works dot Com, with me as 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: always as my trustee editor Chris Palette. Chris, Today, I 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: want to talk about lame duck presidents. Agreed, absolutely, Okay. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Let me give a little background for some what a 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: lame duck president is. Lame duck president is basically any 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: president that has already either not been passed over for 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: election or has served the both of their terms. And 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: basically they're just sitting around in office waiting to finish 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: out the rest of their tenure before the next president 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: takes over. Correct that is correct? And where did this 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: come from? Lame duck? Do you want me to explain 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: that part? Why don't you do that? Let me Basically, 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: a lame duck original it was a financial term for 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: somebody who couldn't pay their debt. Our current use of 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: that term has nothing to do with that anymore. As 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I said, it's it's a president who's finished out their term, 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: and it can also refer to Congress. But there's an 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: amendment in the Constitution called the lame Duck Amendment, and 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: it is the amenment absolutely, uh, the twenty Amendment is 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: the lame duck Amendment, and it was instituted in I 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: believe nineteen thirty three during the Hoover administration. Basically, what 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: was going on was members of Congress had thirteen months 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: in between the time they found out that they were 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: not reelected and the time they actually left office. Thirteen 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: months is a really, really long time to do a 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: lot of damage, basically robbing their constituency blind. Right. Well, 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, they have the opportunity to use the powers 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: of office for uh, for all sorts of projects, and 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, once they're not once they don't feel like 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: they owe the voters anything anymore. They can they can 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: vote any way they want to, exactly. They could also 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: pick the president under certain circumstances, those being you know, 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: a tie in the electoral college, which frankly I don't 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: even want to get into. But um, Chris, it seems 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: like there's somebody out there right now who's a lame duck. 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Their names slipping my mind. Can you refresh my memory. 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: I think you're thinking of President George W. Buck exactly. 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: That's who it was. Tell us a little bit about 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: his lame duck status, will you. Well, you know, he's uh, 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: he's actually been fairly busy during his lame duck period. Um. 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, I saw that people have been talking about 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: his presidency being entering the lame duck phase as early 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: as the first part of two thousand seven. So you know, 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: if if that's true. Obviously this is subjective thing, but 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: he would have been a lame duck for you know, 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: almost half of his second term in office. I heard 51 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: that the Associated Press actually tagged him with lame duck 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: in two thousand four. Wow, we'll see, you know, as 53 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: soon as you get elected for your second term. I 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: guess technically you're you're him. Uh, your lame duckness starts. Um. 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: But he's been he's been actually pretty active as of 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: late UM worth the Economic Stimulus Package and UM recently 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: to UH pushing for a permanent extension of his the 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: UH Surveillance Package, pushing Congress to to extend that permanently 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: instead of a temporary extension. He's been very vocal about 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: about doing that. So he's not he's not just sitting 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: on his on his hands and waiting for his term 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: to end. Now. Also one of those little balls with 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the raccoon tail that is battery powered and cats like 64 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: the plue with that's also very active too. But I 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: think that that has just about as much of a 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: chance of pushing legislation through as George Bush does at 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: this point. Uh, from what I understand and doing some 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: research for this podcast, I found that, um, it's pretty 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: much open season on Bush. It seems like he's spent 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: all of his political currency and uh, suddenly the wolves 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: are at his door, as it were. I quote David 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: from who's a former speechwriter, there's no possibility at all 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: of the president advancing anything that is acceptable to both 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: the Democrats and the Republicans. Talking about what he'll be 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: able to do his last term, it looks like nothing. Chris, 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, you know, he's he's only 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: so powerful anyway as president because the members of Congress 78 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: are the ones who have to uh push the bills 79 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: across his desk form to sign. So you know, there's 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: there's only he He can talk all he wants, but 81 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: if they don't give him a bill to sign into law. 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: You know, he can't do anything whether he's a lame 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: duck or not. Exactly two and I think, uh a 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: further sign of the president's lame duck status that I 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: was really surprised to find this out. But Nancy Pelosi, 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House of Representatives, in July two 87 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: thousand seven, flew to Syria to hold talks with the 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: President of Syria, who Bush was ignoring at the time, 89 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: going completely behind the residents back. Now, if that's not 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: a sign that you're a lame duck, I don't know 91 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: what is. How about you? I do think you have 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: a point there. 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