WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 9: Measuring Stick 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.680 And this week of the group chat, we're using the 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.640 RAMS game as a measuring stick to see where we 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.079 want to see growth in week two. Honestly, what we 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.319 saw from the offense Sunday felt a lot like two 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.879 thousand eighteen. It was it was Christian and Christian and 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.439 Christian again. And then we compare the preseason to a 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.000 house Cats Cats are the worst in the preseason is 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.279 the worst. That ends so much more on this week's 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:34.800 the group chat. You've been added to the group chat 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.600 with your friends Caroline Can, Max Sensen, and Will Brian. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.400 Sometimes I don't know how to start these things, So 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.199 that's how we should start this one. Can we just 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.640 roll with that? Guys? I struggle every single time coming 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.400 out of like the open of like, oh, how do 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:57.279 you follow that? I don't know? This is how we're 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.640 doing it right now. Sometimes well, it would have been 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.440 good if we started with your opening of the sprite 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.920 can though, that would have been it was very loud, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.560 everyone like the subtle can that you heard a couple 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.920 of weeks ago from that opening it no, mine was 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.240 right in the mic, just don't wake everyone up. I 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.880 literally jumped, Yeah, you did almost fall out before we 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.640 get started here with what we originally planned to do 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.080 on this podcast. We would like to introduce whoever is 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.080 running our fan club. We would like to introduce a 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.959 new name. Um, we'll probably the name because we don't 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.800 have a president of a fan club, nor do we 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.160 have a fan club. But if we want, if someone 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.679 out there wants to start one the Groupies, if you're 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.919 looking for a name the group piece, wouldn't our graphic 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.280 designer Kelly be the president of our fan club? She 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:50.840 hopefully because she called this the group Talk? Oh was 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.680 it time to go? Do the group talk? Kelly? We 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.800 love Keen though we love Kelly, So Kelly, thank you 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.440 for listening every single week and giving us the name 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.160 the Groupies. Yes, yes, all right, now we'll jump into 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.200 the real segment. So this this last week, did you 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.280 guys know the Panthers? They played the Ramps in Week one? 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.400 Were you guys there? I was there? Max? Were you there? 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.079 I was also there? Yeah? I was there. Did you 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.920 see most president and accounted for? I did? Did you 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.239 did you get it? I didn't get to watch most 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.600 of ye So Will is not gonna be able to 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.680 offer much in this segment. I guess he could tell 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.560 us about how some of the mobile app things went. Yeah, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:30.760 the I wasn't serious. Okay, that wasn't actually asking Will 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:37.120 is always reading? Was fantastic. I was also the game. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.600 But I did not see either of you. Yeah we 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:46.720 saw you. Yeah I heard you. I was all the 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:53.679 way from the press box. You could hear hoping that 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.079 Mike will pick me up at some point, like if 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.560 I'm loud enough, someone will listen. But then playing in 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.520 this game. Something that came out of this game, a 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.640 little catchphrase that we caught onto was this game was 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.120 a measuring stick for this Carolina Panthers team. And so 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.000 that made me think of you know when you walk 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.840 into like old homes, or maybe it's just family homes 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.800 not old ones. I'm sure anyone's have this as well, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.639 like a doorframe that has like, oh, at seven years old, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.880 little Johnny was this tall and at eight and nine. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.200 That's what it made me think of. So, if this 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.000 is a measuring stick for this team, what do we 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.440 want to see grow? What do we find like, Oh, 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.440 I'm fine with that staying the same. I thought that 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.440 was pretty good. So we're putting the Panthers up on 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.240 the door frame and we're going to project maybe something 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.960 that we think will change this week with the Tampa 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.160 Bay Buccaneers coming to town for Thursday night football. Um, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.840 or just something that we're like, you know, I liked 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.240 that that doesn't need to grow. We that that can 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.640 stay right there. So anyone want to go first, because 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.240 the only real rule of this podcast is that Caroline 0:03:54.240 --> 0:04:00.160 never goes first. Yeah, well, I think that if if 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.920 Christian McCaffrey's production grows any anymore than like his legs 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.280 are going to fall off. I don't think we have 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.080 a doorframe that big. I don't. I don't think we 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.440 can do that anymore, and that can stay right where. Yeah, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.880 that's that's pretty much there. I would like to see, uh, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.960 you know, someone some other rushing numbers up there. I 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.760 don't know there were necessarily going to see a ton 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.839 of Jordan's Scarlett, a ton of Reggie Bonifon in the backfield, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.440 but last year the Panthers led the league in rushing 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.000 yards by wide receivers. I'd like to see a little 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.240 bit more of that. Curtis Samuel D. J. Moore. I 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.920 was surprised we didn't see any end arounds the Curtis 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.680 or DJ in that game. I don't know if that 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.240 had something more to do with the Rams scheme and 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.839 North didn't feel comfortable with it, but yeah, neither of 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.279 them involved in the running game, and obviously Cam wasn't either, 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.520 which is a big story, right, So yeah, I'd like 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.840 to see a little more rushing production from others and 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.080 not necessarily. It doesn't mean that Christians coming off the 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.520 field for fifteen snaps, but it means that others running 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.279 the ball. Doesn't mean that he's coming off the field 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:01.960 for one snaper because that would be more than all right, Max, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.039 I would like to see the offense grow in the 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.279 area of creating explosive plays. We had the longest completion 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.560 of the game really for either team. What was Goffs 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.400 Before I get into a cams with seventeen yards? What 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.360 was goffs long is completion wasn't four. So neither team 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.120 was particularly explosive through the air. But this is a 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.400 thing that's always going to be following Cam and the 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.719 Panthers after what we saw last year too, is where 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.320 the big play is going to come from. Um, it's 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.600 so hard to play in a box like this and 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.440 to count on ten eleven, twelve play drives to get 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.440 yourself down the field, and look, Christian can roll for 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.200 five or six yards to carry and put up the 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.640 numbers he did, but defenses are going to be willing 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.480 to give that up. What they don't want to give 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.200 up is big plays over the top or big chunks, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.279 and Caroline has got to figure out a way to 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.240 do that. Whether it's d J. Moore and Curtis Samuel 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.760 being the guys who are on the outside are doing it, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.560 whether it's Camm and his legs, I don't I don't 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.560 know when we're gonna be able to see that from 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.120 him again, but it can all be on Christian, to 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.440 Will's point, and they've got to They've just got to 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.080 have more than plays that are seventeen yards longest through 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.200 the air and I think Christian's longest rush was twenty 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.640 three yards. And they need big plays, bottom line. They 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.080 need to have that. So just one game, I'm not 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.039 going to make too much of it from just you're 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.360 making a huge deal out of this. But the thing 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.760 about it is this was last year too. I Mean, 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.640 we're talking about some track record here of honestly, what 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.720 we saw from the offense Sunday, what felt a lot 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.760 like two thousand and eighteen it was. It was Christian 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.960 and Christian and Christian again, So that this offense needs 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.120 to grow in that way for sure. Going forward to 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.520 to play Devil's advocate to that, That's where I'm going 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.120 because I'm okay with I don't think I want to 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.400 feel like I literally put seventeen yards was the longest 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.479 pass froom Cam Newton, and I'm okay if that stays 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.760 the same. I thought you put twenty seven points up 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.560 on the board with the turnovers that you had. I 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.599 mean there's a missed field goal two and that too, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.640 So I mean we're talking over thirty points and you 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.600 never had a big chunk play. I'm okay with it. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.040 I think it's fine because I think too, you have 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.880 to let those plays develop. I don't think that's something 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.840 that you know, maybe you get a handful of them 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.040 throughout the year. But I also said, well, if Kurt 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.160 Ko is going to go out there and have the 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.720 year I think he's having, we need a couple of 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.760 big plays. So, um, either I'm gonna be terribly terribly 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:32.960 wrong about my prediction at the terribly wrong, or um, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.240 you know, they get a couple of big plays. But 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.600 I'm okay with it. I mean, twenty seven points and 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.320 when you look back at I mean they had actually 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.240 came out of a time out, had to call another 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.480 time out. You're you're having a lot of miscommunication there. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.560 You turn the ball over, you miss a field goal, 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.960 You're not you know, a couple three and ounce. I 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.200 get the big play. We all want them, like come on, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.040 like I would love to have a highlight, but yeah, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.760 I'm not asking for a time We just need at 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.920 least one. I mean, you got to stretch the field 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.000 of defense. Otherwise, like I said, they're going to be 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.160 crowned the line of scrimmage, and over a sixteen game schedule, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.920 that's going to make it hard. And and again, if 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.040 you're gonna have to rely on those long drives, all 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.360 it takes is one holding penalty. All it takes is 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.600 one sack, and all of a sudden, now you're behind 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.080 the change. So that's what I'm kind of projecting forward 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.680 and being like, you can't one game is fine. They 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.520 almost got away with it, right, I mean they lost 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.280 by three points. But I think over the course of 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.680 the season, an offense that lacks big play potential is 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.920 much easier to defend. Absolutely, And going off of that too, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.800 I think this back to back on a short week, 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.839 that's a lot of time that your offense is out 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.000 on the field. If you're doing you know, like you're saying, 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.600 ten play drives, and that's a lot of time that 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.160 your offense is out there, so your defense. I mean, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.360 I I do agree if you get a couple of 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.160 big plays. Now we're saying a couple, give me a 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.640 couple in the game, not just one. But if you 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.120 get you know, a big play out there, then that 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.320 allows your offense to come off and you get more rest. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.400 It's going to be hot spoiler alert. It won't be 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.800 sunny and I won't get a sun burned down there 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.240 like I did on Sunday. But it's still going to 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.280 be warm. It's going to be humid. These guys have 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.679 had a short week. I think this, why not dial 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.240 it up and see if you can get one. But didn't. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.760 I mean they did call one. They called there was 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.400 It's not that they're not calling it, it's but Cam's 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:21.920 gotta prove that you can hit it. I mean that 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.600 huge third down, you know, we're talking about the block 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.400 punt and then they get the ball back with it 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.679 after Bradbury's interception with a chance to go down and 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.160 take the lead in the fourth quarter, they had that 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.320 third down, the Curtis wheel route was there and just 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.280 missed it. And so yeah, I'm not saying it's not 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.760 because they're not calling them, but the execution has just 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.199 got to be there. That was you talk about quote 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.520 unquote missed opportunities. That was That was the biggest one 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.920 to get it. That was the biggest one right there. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.400 I mean, because I know Caroline, we talked about it before, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.080 you know, the other day of practice. It was like, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.160 you know, throughout the course that game, it sort of 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.120 felt like, man, the ball is just not bouncing their 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.000 way today, and it was on the ground a couple 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.520 of times they couldn't recover for it, and I had 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.360 that feeling as well. But then between the Black punt 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.800 and and Bradberry's interception, they had everything they wanted, They 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.320 had the ball. It was up to them to go 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.080 down and take the game by the throat, and they 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.360 didn't do it. Speaking of James Bradberry, I feel like 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.320 he's about to have a growth spurt, Like he has 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:23.200 the interception that he had all last season. He's there 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.720 like he's already he's already clocked in, like, oh, little 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.360 little James here, he's gonna he's gonna grow this year. Chad. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.600 That's my favorite nickname that he has. You haven't read 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.720 the article on Panthers dot com about his alter egos, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.480 You need to go Chad. I think I just want 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.840 to call him Chad. Chad. I don't know if I'm there, 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:46.920 I can't do Chad is the best. When they when 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.200 they told me some what somage was, I was like, 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.640 somage and then down it was like, yeah, James spelled backwards, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.960 like that's all it is. But I think I think 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.240 James Bradberry is in for a growth spurt. I think 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.920 if we keep the like growth track going, he's this 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.640 is gonna be a big year for him. And it 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.200 needs to be a big year for him because in 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.079 that contract here, I like, I like when these stories 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.960 kind of come together, of these not as big of 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.560 names kind of flown under the radar a little bit, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.400 and all of a sudden they start peaking at the 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.160 right time. Another guy in that same boat, Jack Thompson, 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.199 was great against the Ranch. Also in a contract here, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.080 I mean, those two are off to great starts, and 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.600 you know, if they get the kind of production they 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.880 got from those two going forward, the defense I think 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.040 will be fine. They got some stuff to figure out. Obviously, 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.720 the defensive line was frustrated. They didn't get the pressure 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.160 they wanted to against Goff. They used that kind of 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.280 three man rush and six DV package. I'm curious to 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.040 see what Ron does in Week two, but overall, I 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.920 think the defense is going to be in pretty good shape. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.679 Let's do a measuring stick on them so that there 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.440 wasn't the stat line wasn't as crazy as we wanted 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.440 it to be. For that defensive line. We've kind of 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.200 said this entire offseason as they were putting together that 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.480 line and in the preseason they look great coming off 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.520 the bus. On paper, they're amazing. We've seen some good 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.680 things from them on the field, but as far as 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.000 stat lines go, like what do we think happens in 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.679 this Tampa Bay game? They need they need to create 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.360 more turnovers. Jameis Winston came in through two pick six 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.680 is last week. I mean, he's known for making decisions 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.079 sometime of giving the ball away, and you know, this 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.600 is a team that you know, we've seen them at 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.720 their best is when they're creating short fields, when they're 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.880 they're being ball hawkers and they're they're they're making plays, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.880 they're being aggressive, and you know, you get one play 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.760 in special teams, you get something like that punt block, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.440 it gets a big return and then you're able to 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.400 get something that can set you up with a short 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.520 field and all of a sudden, you know these ten 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.800 play twelve play drives that need precision, that need three 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.320 or four third down conversions, you don't have to do that. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.720 I mean, that was the recipe in fifteen, and you know, 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.440 if you can get that, they talked about in seventeen 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.400 when the team went to the playoffs and I think 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.480 they went maybe six seven weeks with like one interception 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.200 or one turnover to start the year, and they said, 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.640 you know, turnovers coming, bunches, so this could be a 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.440 good start to really kind of playing James Winston generally 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.640 is a good time to get some turnovers and bunches. Yeah, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.840 he's been careless with the football, so I think I 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.760 think you're absolutely right. And you know, I don't know 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.240 how many people in their pools had James Bradberry as 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.680 the guy who was gonna get the first stack of 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.439 the year. He's still the only guy in this defense 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.760 with a sack. They've got to get some production from 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.640 the guys up front. I mean, you're you're you're paying 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.400 some pretty big money, um for guys to look they're 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.400 gonna be disruptive even if they're not recording sacks. And 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.040 that's that's all well and good, um, but I think 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.200 we we want to see Brian Burns innishoff of play 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.280 that he was maybe inches away from making. You are 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.640 several of those Geryl McCoy get back there, kk short Um, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.560 I think those guys get in the face of Winston. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.920 Getting the sack total up a little bit will be 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.120 something definitely to keep an eye on Thursday night. How 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.680 many times did it feel like Golf literally got the 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.960 ball out as he was getting hit. I mean there 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.360 are a number of not as much as you saw 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.199 with DeShawn Watson on Monday night. Pray for that guy. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:10.160 Good gracious, he got rocked. I just changed the subject. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.880 But when you said that, all that came into my 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:19.640 mind was Sean Watson, how is he feeling this week? Yikes? 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.040 Back to the Panthers. Is there anything else. You guys 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.520 want to see them like grow in this this week, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.120 I couldn't went with targets. I'll answer my own question. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.480 I set myself just said that you never go first 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.240 we first started. I'm only the targets because we heard 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.240 you know, they want to spread the ball around. They 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:38.520 want to be able to get it to a lot 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.720 of different guys and not just rely on these like 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.120 same big playmakers. It's one thing that Ron has kind 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.480 of said, there were five guys that got the ball 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.280 from Cam and yes, okay, that's fine, but I want 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.800 to see more. I mean, get get you know, the 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.400 other tight ends involved, and get some of these other 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.120 running backs involved. And um, I mean the five that 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.320 got the targets, they were you know, ce mc, were Olson, Curtis, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.640 Samuel and right. So it's I want more. I want 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.320 to see more. CMC had ten um of those and 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.200 then d J. Moore had seven for three and one 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.040 for the rest of you know, the three of those. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.200 So I want to see more guys get the balls, 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.720 spread it around a little bit. And I think in 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.200 the red zone two we saw CMC getting there twice. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.520 Fantasy owners are super pumped about that. UM, but then 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.320 Alex Armand getting in there running the ball. I'm just 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.680 interested to see. I know it was one game. We're 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.040 talking about one game here, people, but I just I 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.400 want to see it. What who are the other targets? 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.200 Who are who are they relying on in these other 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.600 big moments, because you are going to have to spread 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.840 the ball around a little bit to be able to 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.120 throw off some of these defenses. Yeah, yeah, I think 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.760 that's a good one. I just think overall, just playing 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:50.240 cleaner football. I think the and again this was from 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.200 both teams here Sunday, the Rams included. It was it 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.440 was pretty sloppy, um, and the Rams were just a 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.480 little bit better when they had to be. But you know, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.360 like yoution of Caroline, like the you know, the miscommunication, 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.760 the headset stuff, the penalties whatever it is, like even 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.320 the timing, I think the timing of Cam Newton to 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.280 his receivers. Ever, and then I think that's one thing 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.640 I noticed with the Rams offense versus the Panther. The 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.440 Rams offense was much more precise in that way. Um. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.320 And I mean you saw it on the you know 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.720 backward pass that set up gifted the Rams with a touchdown. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.560 I mean the Rams are running a lot of those 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.720 sideways plays around the course of the game. Obviously didn't 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:33.440 have any issues. Panthers tried to run one deflected fumble 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.120 touchdown Rams a couple of days later. I mean, so 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.120 just cleaner football from the Panther's no excuses. I mean, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.440 you've got the week one rusty excuse out of the way, Like, Okay, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.200 now it's time. You're in a you can't lose this game. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.200 You can't go into your first division game at home 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.480 on a short week against the Buccaneers. You gotta play 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.360 clean football and do what it takes to make sure 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.920 that you don't beat yourself in this one. First and foremost. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.280 I will say this though, in the second half, it 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.400 felt like it felt like it was about to explode. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.080 You know, you am are kind of going into halftime, 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.840 you feel like all these things are going wrong. There's 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.040 there's a bad way. It's in a bad way, like 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.359 like you know, like there's frustration everywhere. You know, like 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.760 there was there were booze at times in the stadium. 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.360 And then to come out to put the drive together, uh, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.600 you know that that Christians scored on you know, to 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.600 even to even come back and have that last drive 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.920 to pull within three. Obviously it's a little too little, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.719 too late, but there were signs that you look across 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.200 the NFL as these games were all unfolding, and there 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.879 was just so much there were there were teams that 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.960 were not being competitive, that we're that we're just rolling over. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.320 It felt like in least in terms of the scoreboard. 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.480 In terms of the scoreboard, that's actually and it's an 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:48.800 interesting point. I want too literally that voice positive I 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.479 head and I looked at the two guys of like, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.120 who is this. Wow? I had a question for you guys. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.359 Max brought up a good point, and I was wondering, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:00.280 thank you, thank you that I was wondering what you 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.399 guys thought of this this thing that I'm seeing on 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.080 social media and everything about how there's like a movement 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.240 of people that think that the reason why Week one 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.600 was so bad was the lack of people playing in 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.080 the preseason. I was one of what you guys thought 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.040 about them. I mean, yeah, like, I think that's a 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.159 valid point, but I would rather Week one be a 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.560 little messy than have your you know, a star guy 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.760 get hurt Week three. The preseason, the way the way 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.159 it's set up, you just can't be teams just the 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.240 way it is now. It's just the new normal that 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.800 you you just you can't. You can't have guys out 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.399 there in week three. The preseason are teen weeks to 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.000 this season. If this was an eight week season, absolutely 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.200 not like playing in the preseason. Get them ready because 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.480 you have this like run of eight games. There are 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.840 seventeen weeks, you get sixteen games and then you go 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.040 into the playoffs. No, I don't. I'm fine with it 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.600 as long as like both teams are doing it and 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.199 it's just your team. It Yeah, like I it's just 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.280 your team doing it. That's a bit fresh rain. But 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.639 i'st also a pretty good test because both the Rams. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.720 The Rams like started this trend of not playing anyone, 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:07.960 so they didn't do it, you know, the Panthers didn't 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.120 really do it, so you're starting to see. I thought 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.359 it was like it was a great measuring stick. There 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.119 was just a lot of bad football across the league 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.280 on Sunday, and I was just want to that which 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.119 is not on common and like, look, I don't I 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.639