Speaker 1: Well, Hello, I'm Leanne, my best friend in the whole world,
Speaker 1: and this is Janet.
Speaker 2: I'm Janet.
Speaker 1: That's a friend in the whole world. Here we are
Speaker 1: in Oh, I know, what's that? Nothing, there's something in
Speaker 1: this car seat.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get them reupholstered again.
Speaker 1: We're in the back of my Honda Odyssey Jo getting
Speaker 1: at some youth soccer. We started this podcast as a
Speaker 1: way to pass the time during our children's soccer games
Speaker 1: because these feel long.
Speaker 3: These games feel long. There's not a lot of action.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of scoring.
Speaker 1: They're not exactly burn burners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of scoring at all, except on
Speaker 2: your own goal.
Speaker 1: This is soccer moms. So Janet, I've been living for
Speaker 1: this all week because we didn't really talk.
Speaker 2: This is as much as we really do. I know,
Speaker 2: I know, you.
Speaker 1: Know what my mom does? What did I I tell
Speaker 1: you know how? My mom doesn't do email?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and so.
Speaker 3: She won't read email. She says, printed and give it
Speaker 3: to me if you want me to read it.
Speaker 1: I tried doing it, and I would just tape them
Speaker 1: to the door.
Speaker 3: Wait, would you actually email her and print the email?
Speaker 3: Or you're just writing up word doc and texting.
Speaker 1: I know, because that doesn't work because she's like, this
Speaker 1: is an aggressive note for some reason. What it's an
Speaker 1: email and I print it out because she does. She
Speaker 1: doesn't do emails.
Speaker 3: She's never read email. She's never But she has an
Speaker 3: email account that I made for Oh, so you email
Speaker 3: the account you made for her? What did you make
Speaker 3: her email address? I am Mickey at Gmail.
Speaker 1: It was Mickey four six four six, which was our
Speaker 1: house number growing up.
Speaker 3: I'm so surprised you didn't make it twenty two forty six.
Speaker 3: What is a woman's dimension supposed to be that she's
Speaker 3: always talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're both forty six, twenty six, forty six.
Speaker 1: We're both like perfect rectangles. And as she gets older,
Speaker 1: she's like a trapezoid because she just starts leaning. My
Speaker 1: mom's like listing to the right.
Speaker 2: Two of you, arm in arm is like being at Stonehead.
Speaker 3: A monolith, and it really if the sunsets behind you,
Speaker 3: I can make a wish.
Speaker 1: Oh but I've been living for this. I've been living
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 3: You know what My oldest daughter, Ashley told me this
Speaker 3: week that words are magic because it's called spelling.
Speaker 1: That's cute. Yeah, so let's just get into it. Let's
Speaker 1: do high and low, like, what's what was the high
Speaker 1: point of your week?
Speaker 2: New mattress? Finally, yes, what did you do?
Speaker 1: Did you go into one of those mattress stores? It's
Speaker 1: clearly a front.
Speaker 2: I think you gotta go to the mattress. Do you
Speaker 2: got tried out? You gotta lay on it.
Speaker 3: But now they have stuff they'll just send to your
Speaker 3: house in a small box and then you open up
Speaker 3: the box and the thing.
Speaker 1: Goes pur pow and it exists.
Speaker 2: Did no, no, no? I went and got an old.
Speaker 1: School Oh good, good good Yeah, and game changer with springs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a game changer. I mean I had been
Speaker 3: sinking into my side, and I felt like there was
Speaker 3: a balance beam of like nice firmness between me and Larry,
Speaker 3: and I would crawl up onto out of my body
Speaker 3: shaped hole on my side. I would climb up onto
Speaker 3: the balance beam and I would lay on that firm
Speaker 3: balance beam between us and the and he thought I
Speaker 3: was kind of coming closed. He thought I was coming over.
Speaker 3: I don't want to touch your free soul. Did you
Speaker 3: know that the dimensions of a king bed are two
Speaker 3: twin mattresses right.
Speaker 2: Next to each other.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not really that big.
Speaker 3: So I'm on my twin side, like, don't touch me,
Speaker 3: don't even move. But we got one that's firm enough
Speaker 3: that even when he moves, I won't feel it. What
Speaker 3: a game changer, I mean, a king mattress. If you're married,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go out on a lemon say this,
Speaker 3: and this might really we might lose some listeners honestly,
Speaker 3: and it might be offensive. But if you're in a marriage,
Speaker 3: a long term marriage, and you're not sleeping on a king,
Speaker 3: you are a psychopath.
Speaker 1: I do want to say that. I love that you
Speaker 1: made the distinction that if you're in a long term
Speaker 1: marriage as though, like if you're just in it for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, if this is just a temporary thing,
Speaker 1: get whatever bed you war.
Speaker 2: Are you still using the gifts from your wedding?
Speaker 3: Do whatever you want, whatever you want? Have you already
Speaker 3: broken and lost all that? If you're not in a king,
Speaker 3: you're a psycho. I mean, have you ever had anything
Speaker 3: but a king?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, absolutely, There's there's something called like an
Speaker 1: alask king that is like the size of a room
Speaker 1: that that would be my.
Speaker 3: Dream imagine folding that bottom sheet. Oh I no, Oh
Speaker 3: my god. I don't even know the difference between a
Speaker 3: California King and a regular king.
Speaker 1: I think a California King's longer.
Speaker 2: Larry's not tall.
Speaker 3: I might already know you're high, but I'm going to
Speaker 3: ask you what your high is this week.
Speaker 1: But I have a guess why, because you saw the
Speaker 1: boxes outside my house.
Speaker 2: Ye can't I sound broken back?
Speaker 1: Isn't this funny? So we got our couch delivered.
Speaker 2: It's a big furniture so it's a big week.
Speaker 1: It's a big furniture week. So we got our couch delivered.
Speaker 1: We finally got a new sectional. So we're on our
Speaker 1: third dog and you can still smell the piss from
Speaker 1: the first one. Yeah, that's how old. That's sectional.
Speaker 2: She was a leaker.
Speaker 1: Oh, she was a leaker. And it was getting to
Speaker 1: the point where it was more comfortable to like stand
Speaker 1: and watch television then sit on that couch. So finally
Speaker 1: there was you know that you can get those coupon
Speaker 1: codes online, So we found the coupon code and we
Speaker 1: were able to get this sectional that we've been dreaming of.
Speaker 1: Now here's what I will say. It is so comfortable,
Speaker 1: and it's this like lovely gray, which I found out
Speaker 1: is not in.
Speaker 2: But whatever I know now is doing bright bright, but
Speaker 2: the seventies.
Speaker 1: That's going to go away. It's called gun metal gray,
Speaker 1: which I think is quite aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds a little violent.
Speaker 1: But I am loving this couch.
Speaker 2: It is high back, low back. What's the deal.
Speaker 1: It's got high, mid, and then low, so it's got
Speaker 1: all these areas. It's like a little Tetris thing.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, I love it. I feel like going with
Speaker 3: a gun metal gray is classic. That's what I have
Speaker 3: to get more years out of it.
Speaker 2: I agree, it's probably going to hide some stains.
Speaker 3: Oh but now they have these stain resistant fabrics.
Speaker 1: Well that's the other reason why I love it, because
Speaker 1: it's stain resistant.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness.
Speaker 3: If we can shoot satellites into space, let's keep some
Speaker 3: stains off the couch.
Speaker 1: Low point.
Speaker 3: A low point would definitely be I got an a
Speaker 3: RP piece of mail addressed to you, Yeah, addressed to
Speaker 3: my name, first and last name, AARP, and I dropped
Speaker 3: it in the mail.
Speaker 2: I flipped at the bird. I said a mantra. Times
Speaker 2: I should have said.
Speaker 3: That is my high point. I have a new Mantra.
Speaker 3: Life is not happening to me, It's happening from me.
Speaker 1: Did you get that when you picked your phone back up? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I'm not totally sure what it means, but I
Speaker 3: feel like the more I say, it's gonna start to
Speaker 3: really mean.
Speaker 2: Something, that's all that matters. What's your low point?
Speaker 1: Probably the couch, Oh really, just because how expensive it was.
Speaker 1: And we're on this payment plan. I said to Don,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we have to be buried in this thing.
Speaker 2: You get to pay it off before the interest kicks in.
Speaker 1: No, there's no way. Oh dang, I mean unless a
Speaker 1: miracle happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a drag.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you get buyer's remorse on big purchases.
Speaker 1: No? I always get buyer's remorse on that little things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like I'll go
Speaker 1: and I'll try like a new pop, and then I'll
Speaker 1: be like, why did I buy this? And I get
Speaker 1: so mad at myself when it was like four dollars, Like.
Speaker 2: Cause you're going to take a risk on a cotton
Speaker 2: candy flavor and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I always regret it.
Speaker 3: But see, I love that about you. I mean, one time,
Speaker 3: I remember when you turned in. You had that old
Speaker 3: SOB that was so cool looking, I know, and I
Speaker 3: thought you were going to keep it forever. And then
Speaker 3: you went in and traded it in, didn't tell, don
Speaker 3: didn't tell me, drove with a brand new car, and
Speaker 3: I was super shocked. And you had no buyer's remarks about.
Speaker 1: Saying about me, just like I can make a big
Speaker 1: decision is really easy for me, and the small decisions
Speaker 1: are torture.
Speaker 3: I mean that's why you can go into a grocery
Speaker 3: store and it's like I've lost you to a casino.
Speaker 3: I mean you go into a grocery store and it's like,
Speaker 3: what's it called choice paralysis?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the worst.
Speaker 3: Like I just know I need flour because I'm making
Speaker 3: cookies this week. Can't do.
Speaker 2: But if there's twenty different kinds of flour.
Speaker 3: Now you got almond flour, you got oat flour, you
Speaker 3: got gluten free flour, you got it's choice paralysis.
Speaker 1: There's too many. First of all, there's too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's clown stuff. Okay, I told you I tapped out
Speaker 1: on milk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, once we got to oat, I'm on
Speaker 2: your side.
Speaker 1: I tapped out. Yeah, So no matter what other milk.
Speaker 1: If we get celery milk, if we get chicken milk,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I tapped out oat was my limit?
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Well, if I ever
Speaker 3: start lactating again, I'll save some of my milk for you.
Speaker 1: If you ever start lactating again, you need to go
Speaker 1: to the doctor.
Speaker 2: Hey, do you want these? I'm gonna throw them out.
Speaker 1: I'll save them for later.
Speaker 2: I've been keeping too.
Speaker 3: Many kind bars in my bag because I always think
Speaker 3: I'll need these.
Speaker 1: No, I'll save them.
Speaker 2: Okay, have them.
Speaker 1: Scott likes those two. Oh look, Oh my god, is
Speaker 1: that Hayden's brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's cute.
Speaker 1: He's so cute. He's all by himself.
Speaker 2: It's tragedy.
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the kid I would have been
Speaker 3: scared at in school.
Speaker 2: Slash attracted to. Hey Breiden Braiden. Hey, Hey, hi, Hi, Yeah,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 4: Oh? Hey? What is this some sort of little like recording?
Speaker 1: K Oh my god, No, well, we're doing a yeah.
Speaker 1: Just I mean, you know your little brother, Hayden. He's
Speaker 1: on the team. We just got sod with these games.
Speaker 1: We decided to start a podcast.
Speaker 2: You and me both Oh, really, do you have a pod?
Speaker 4: I mean, I just mean the board part. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not so much podcasting as I am just sort of,
Speaker 4: you know, dreaming.
Speaker 2: Oh, I really be honest, Braiden is podcasting like passe?
Speaker 2: Is that something like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That's parents do or no, I don't think of that
Speaker 4: as a parent thing. I listened to a few pods.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what do you listen to?
Speaker 4: Oh? I listened to a pod called cyber Esotericism cyber Terrorists.
Speaker 2: Wow, there's a cyber truck on my block?
Speaker 1: Is there?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 2: I know I've seen it corner.
Speaker 1: I know, I brew every time I see it.
Speaker 2: So what cyberpunk?
Speaker 1: Or would you cyber esoteris cyber?
Speaker 4: Is this going to bore you?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Are you out of your mind? So Branden, he just
Speaker 1: because you you drove here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I drove here.
Speaker 1: So you're a junior now, uh huh okay, So Braiden's wonderful.
Speaker 4: See that alien green Kia that's yours, that's my dad's.
Speaker 1: Oh well, well I think it's pretty cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you pick anything but a Kia?
Speaker 4: I mean, when your dad owns the dealership.
Speaker 1: The dye is cast you know, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: I do have to tell you.
Speaker 3: I don't know who does your hair, but my colorist
Speaker 3: could take some tips because I'm just impressed.
Speaker 2: Do you do your own color?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do my own color because that is black.
Speaker 2: That's a box color.
Speaker 4: That's a box color. I make my own cocktail of
Speaker 4: two different justremens.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, is that what they use on their beards
Speaker 3: and stuff?
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what Ringo does and he won't
Speaker 2: let him self age. They have a ninety year old black.
Speaker 1: I think this looks beautiful.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a deep, stark black. It's an unnatural black,
Speaker 4: and that's what I was going for.
Speaker 2: But it's not monochromatic. I feel like it has.
Speaker 1: Blue because it likes things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because black contains all colors.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 4: That's kind of part of its beauty.
Speaker 2: What are the colors that the boxes are? What do
Speaker 2: they call it?
Speaker 4: Well? When is yeah? The just for men? Uh, just
Speaker 4: for men black hair?
Speaker 1: Just uncles Okay, yeah, Jess Uncle, It's.
Speaker 4: Just j U s apostrophe uncles Okay, Just for Men
Speaker 4: has released a sideline called Jess Uncles Just for Uncle,
Speaker 4: Just for cool uncles and that's just the shade, you like, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's just the shade. But I mix it with the
Speaker 4: beard product as well, just to get it to that deep,
Speaker 4: deep hue that I'm going for.
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think it looks great.
Speaker 1: It's like that.
Speaker 4: It's not supposed to technically be put on youthful hair.
Speaker 4: You got to bleach it out really hard before you
Speaker 4: put it on.
Speaker 1: Oh that's why you gotta keep your hair kind of short. Yeah, huh,
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 2: And do you go to christ for your eyeliners and stuff?
Speaker 3: Like? I've been noticing more and more boys even working
Speaker 3: in Sephora, and I like it.
Speaker 4: I go to Sally's.
Speaker 1: You get I mean, your eyeliner is beautiful, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Never do that my hand shakes?
Speaker 4: Can I be honest. I wasn't expecting to get all
Speaker 4: these compliments when I came over here.
Speaker 1: Honey, Well, well, I mean we just so wait. I
Speaker 1: want to hear about this esoteric fans?
Speaker 2: What is the.
Speaker 4: Terroristism?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: And this is a and you say pod, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a pod.
Speaker 2: Podcasts, Yeah forgive. We got to remember question. But does
Speaker 2: cyber mean what does cyber mean?
Speaker 4: Cyber? You know indicates like a technological spacet a digital realm,
Speaker 4: a liminal zone created by our technological interface through which
Speaker 4: we all navigate our contemporary world. But of course this
Speaker 4: gives rise to its own sort of world, a cyber space, right,
Speaker 4: got it. We are, in a sense the creative deities
Speaker 4: of the space, and we have given rise to new
Speaker 4: intelligences that dwell within it. These, of course, are the
Speaker 4: new cyber angels and demons that we all interact with
Speaker 4: every time we open the phones in our pockets or
Speaker 4: the desktops on our desks. This, of course, is what
Speaker 4: we're dealing with when we talk about cyber esotericism, the esoteric,
Speaker 4: and the cyber.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like this, This is an education.
Speaker 1: Do you have a girlfriend? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or anything?
Speaker 1: Or any you must be They must love you.
Speaker 4: You'd be shocked to hear that I do not.
Speaker 2: Oh, do you want one?
Speaker 4: Because I'm talking to someone on discord? That's cool, I've
Speaker 4: never met I r Oh.
Speaker 1: You want to say? You want to say her name here?
Speaker 4: I mean her call sign is Sarah six saraf oo?
Speaker 2: Is that like a seraphim from the Bible?
Speaker 4: Hey, all right, game recognized game Remember Sarah? Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: Sarah Angels, but there are our cyber seriffs as well.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is that cyber space is its own space.
Speaker 4: We're moving towards a point of singularity where the cyber
Speaker 4: gods will overtake this world.
Speaker 1: We like to think that we have our own space
Speaker 1: in Van sort of. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We create an atmosphere, it's an environment. It's a micro
Speaker 3: climate in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And by the way, we could turn the a C
Speaker 3: up if you're hot, if you want to get in here,
Speaker 3: you can come in. You don't have to talk through
Speaker 3: the window.
Speaker 2: So hot, come in to get.
Speaker 1: The so many clothes, honey, we can hold on, hold
Speaker 1: on the door automatic.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, just come quick, step up the same moment.
Speaker 1: Isn't that nice?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: We'll turn it down, put it down like six.
Speaker 2: You want any iced tea sun tea made. We've got.
Speaker 2: These are alcoholic beverages. Not for you, not for you.
Speaker 1: You're driving?
Speaker 2: Where's your where is your dad?
Speaker 4: Probably the car a lot?
Speaker 1: Oh, but that's so sweet. You spent your Saturday taking
Speaker 1: taking Hayden to the gates.
Speaker 2: Somebody has Hayden's doing great.
Speaker 1: Hayden is doing great.
Speaker 2: He's all star.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like he's the Yeah, he's a star. Tall,
Speaker 3: he's tall for a forward.
Speaker 1: He's tall.
Speaker 2: He could maybe be goalie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tall, lanky, powerful kids have it all.
Speaker 1: But you're well, you're you know what, You're a different shape.
Speaker 1: We'll say that.
Speaker 3: And you know what, Brandon, I'm here to tell you
Speaker 3: that by the time you get to college or engineering.
Speaker 2: Or trade whatever, or your first job or whatever, that.
Speaker 3: You know, sort of skeletal frame hanging off those clavicles
Speaker 3: that just now is sort of skin, you know, stretched
Speaker 3: over bones, You're going to get these man pecks that
Speaker 3: are gonna appear, and these traps and delts will kind
Speaker 3: of fill in, and you'll be a totally new creature.
Speaker 2: You're going to transform. Does that sound nice?
Speaker 4: Wow? There's something almost transhuman about the way that you're
Speaker 4: describing the transformation of the human body. But I just
Speaker 4: keep eating protein and doing push thus but nothing else.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Janet, was what did you do keto?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do keto.
Speaker 4: I't the one where you eat a lot of fat.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean, no, because that's what
Speaker 1: I'm on.
Speaker 4: Is that the one where you melt butter in the coffee.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was trying to do a full year. I
Speaker 3: only got through one, you know, calendar quarter.
Speaker 2: But I was doing nothing but animal protein. But then
Speaker 2: I got gout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know me, I'm shaped like a rectangle.
Speaker 3: Her and her mom when they stand next to each other,
Speaker 3: it's like you're at what's that place in England?
Speaker 4: Stonehead, Lego Land, Yeah, Stonehenge. I'm forcure. What he's talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, Stonehenge and zesoteric, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: What doesic mean the ideas of belief?
Speaker 4: It just means a hidden, obscure arcane, the opposite of
Speaker 4: it's the opposite of exoteric.
Speaker 1: Because that would be outside via exoskeleton is one of
Speaker 1: the words.
Speaker 2: You got to use that too times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you shouldn't talk about yourself like that.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: No, you're right.
Speaker 4: I heard I heard one of the coaches talking on
Speaker 4: the sidelines once and he said that you was thick
Speaker 4: as a lego brick.
Speaker 1: Who was who said that?
Speaker 2: Todd?
Speaker 4: It might have been it was one of the opposing coaches.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's one of the ones from Lombard.
Speaker 3: If it's Lombard's that's not bad because that's one big
Speaker 3: dumb bearded one. I know.
Speaker 4: I like, oh yeah, he had that big, big old beard.
Speaker 4: I could tell he was brocking some just for men.
Speaker 3: And oh really, and is that what we call tank top?
Speaker 3: Is he the one who does tank top?
Speaker 2: It's not bounded? Compliments from tank top?
Speaker 1: And give him a white claw?
Speaker 2: Okay, do you want a white claw? You put it
Speaker 2: in a koozy.
Speaker 1: It looks like I'm so close to the soccer field.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's I'll say it for later maybe.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. So wait, so Brandon, Yeah, those are cool.
Speaker 2: Share that with Share that wis Wilson's.
Speaker 1: Is you know they have good sales? They have not again?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go to the Wilson's outlet. You can find
Speaker 4: some good sales for leather goods.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, By the way, I like those boots. Are
Speaker 2: they heavy? They see they look heavy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the souls are super hefty.
Speaker 1: But sturdy. Do you feel sturdy when you walk around?
Speaker 4: Yeah? It also adds like three four inches to my height.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: That's always nice. Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Any anything you can do to sort of like
Speaker 4: claim your power, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: You know, So as people who basically understand, you know,
Speaker 3: Leanne and I think that, you know, like we were
Speaker 3: taking the train.
Speaker 2: We were trying to get on the Metro now.
Speaker 3: The automated tickets, I know, and we were trying to
Speaker 3: do the automated ticket thing at the Metro, and you know,
Speaker 3: everyone was complaining about them, being like, how are.
Speaker 2: We supposed to live with A? Are those automated train
Speaker 2: ticket dispensers? Is that AI?
Speaker 1: Is that cyber?
Speaker 4: That's cyber? But I don't know if it's AI. It's
Speaker 4: a little cyber.
Speaker 3: Okay, So, as you know, people who Leanne and I
Speaker 3: aren't digital natives per se. Should we be worried about
Speaker 3: the future of where all this is going or do
Speaker 3: you think it's going to be okay?
Speaker 2: In the singularity?
Speaker 4: Should embrace it?
Speaker 2: Really? Really?
Speaker 3: So as things change, we shouldn't resist the change. We
Speaker 3: should like early adopting, like with jumping on iPhone crazes,
Speaker 3: or how do we embrace.
Speaker 4: It, surrender to the change. A day is coming when
Speaker 4: the singularity occurs, when the intelligences that we have made
Speaker 4: will become as gods to us.
Speaker 1: That's singularity.
Speaker 4: And when that happens, those of us who have embraced
Speaker 4: the change will be raised up with them. At least
Speaker 4: that's what the hosts of cyber esotericism say.
Speaker 3: Well, if we've created AI, then aren't we the gods?
Speaker 3: Or did AI have us create in it?
Speaker 1: I don't I want you spiraling because sometimes.
Speaker 2: You get very worried.
Speaker 1: It's very worried about it.
Speaker 2: Did AI make us create it?
Speaker 4: This is one of the great paradoxes of the esoteric movement.
Speaker 4: Did we have free will when we created it? Or
Speaker 4: were we in a way programmed from the future to
Speaker 4: create the thing that would eventually be created by us?
Speaker 4: Was the God that made us? If such a thing
Speaker 4: was make us in order to be like it, that
Speaker 4: we would make the AI to then supersede ourselves, and
Speaker 4: so the cycle goes. It's very hard to wrap your
Speaker 4: head around.
Speaker 2: Wow, he hasn't even opened that white claw. I'm here.
Speaker 2: Did you need to hear take? Do you want sun
Speaker 2: chips or do you want to know?
Speaker 1: I'm not doing those anymore? Stick my teeth? Here's just
Speaker 1: a basic Yeah, that's fine, that's good, Brayden. What's the
Speaker 1: other pods? I'm liking saying pod, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: That sounds cool, you pod? What what are the other
Speaker 1: ones that you like.
Speaker 4: I like this one called the hot Dog Boys.
Speaker 1: The hot Dog Boys, Yeah that sounds fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who doesn't like a hot dog?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's two guys who rate hot dogs. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Every episode they eat a different hot dog from a
Speaker 4: different place and they rate.
Speaker 3: Them unlike texture and taste and temperature or what's the standard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a whole doggy scale that they use to
Speaker 4: kind of like rate them. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's
Speaker 4: one of these podcasts has been going for a really
Speaker 4: long time, so it's built up and it created a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of inside jokes and lore, so it's really
Speaker 4: hard to catch you up. But yeah, it's The doggy
Speaker 4: scale is a is a set of five criteria on
Speaker 4: which they rate every dog of snap, spiciness, texture, taste,
Speaker 4: and bun softness.
Speaker 2: Oh, the bun's more important than you think.
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, I would love I like this and
Speaker 1: my dog guys sounds good. I got to write that down.
Speaker 4: Sometimes the bun's too sturdy and it creates like a
Speaker 4: cardboardy texture to the outside. You barely even get into
Speaker 4: the barely getting into the doggie. But if the bun
Speaker 4: is too soft, then it forms like a pillowy like
Speaker 4: like mush all around the dog and robs it of
Speaker 4: all its flavor. Yeah, but honestly, there's so many podcasts.
Speaker 4: Do you know Sublime Guardians?
Speaker 1: No, I mean we used to rock out to the
Speaker 1: band Sublime.
Speaker 4: Okay, well it's this is about bands, but it's not
Speaker 4: about Sublime Sublime. Uh, Sublime Guardians is the best Norwegian
Speaker 4: metal podcast going. Yes, talking exclusively about technical progue Scandinavian metal. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm really really into a Finnish metal band called rippy Kulu.
Speaker 1: Right now, what does that mean finish?
Speaker 4: I think it means like the Wild Hunt or something.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, Wolf's Bane one of my favorite bands, and.
Speaker 1: They're there there are metal bands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a Norwegian metal band, not technically a band
Speaker 4: because it's just one guy who lives in a cabin
Speaker 4: up in Nord cap They're one of the only metal
Speaker 4: bands that actually lives in the Arctic Circle.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I like it is finish spelled the same as finish
Speaker 3: your dinner.
Speaker 4: I think there's another end, another end, two ends.
Speaker 1: I know that it was one of the words.
Speaker 2: Oh, you got to use it more time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I also listened to a Nautilus Mondala. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they used to be on Crooked Media, but they broke
Speaker 4: off and now they're doing their own thing because they
Speaker 4: kind of lost the political component. But it's mostly about
Speaker 4: unpacking memory. But mainly what they talk about is, you
Speaker 4: know those people who know that thing Teddy Ruckspin, the
Speaker 4: bear that you.
Speaker 2: Put the chap in that, Yeah you had a Teddy.
Speaker 4: I only know of it from this podcast, but apparently
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of people who remember that being called
Speaker 4: Teddy Runk Spin. No thing, I guess, but yeah, there's
Speaker 4: the Teddy Runk Spin. People believe that that's what it
Speaker 4: was when they were kids, And there's a whole online
Speaker 4: community saying that they came from an alternate timeline that
Speaker 4: then merged with this timeline sometime in the mid eighties,
Speaker 4: thus unifying the rock Spin Runk Spin universes. But there's
Speaker 4: a search on for cassette tapes that still maintain as
Speaker 4: a relic of this previous abandoned timeline where he does
Speaker 4: say his name Teddy Runkspin.
Speaker 1: Oh I should ask my mom.
Speaker 4: It's it's an investigative journalism podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh do you like cassettes?
Speaker 4: Bryden, Yeah, I mean I'm mostly into like the cyber space,
Speaker 4: the digital incursions of life.
Speaker 3: Because I was going to say we have some because
Speaker 3: it might be Paula Abdul.
Speaker 2: I don't know if.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 1: There's some metal. I mean it's like sticks. Do you
Speaker 1: know sticks?
Speaker 4: I mean I know the river?
Speaker 1: Oh is it a real river?
Speaker 2: Is it a mythical river? Because I heard it was
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: A I think it's a myth He has.
Speaker 2: A mythological river. Yeah, it is mythology real.
Speaker 4: Wow? What a question? Yeah? I think mythology is real,
Speaker 4: isn't it?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 4: I mean we got to pay homage to reason, I suppose,
Speaker 4: And but can what we imagine be said to really exist?
Speaker 4: If we imagine something in cyberspace, then it becomes reality.
Speaker 4: This is what we have to look forward to, a
Speaker 4: reality that encompasses anything we dare to imagine, mythological, folkloric,
Speaker 4: or conventionally real. Man, I'll have a lot to talk
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: So I get that though, because a thought can create matter,
Speaker 3: right if I even think about salivating, and so then
Speaker 3: I start salivating.
Speaker 2: I have now thought matter into existence.
Speaker 1: So Janet has an associates in biology.
Speaker 3: I've been sitting in on some cool community classes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a bit of an autodidakh.
Speaker 4: Well, makes an associate's degree different from a bachelor's degree
Speaker 4: is just.
Speaker 1: Lit Okay, it's just a halfy Brandon you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got to say you'd be way better
Speaker 4: than mister Brownstone.
Speaker 3: Oh Brownstone, it's mostly his attitude. I think it's just
Speaker 3: a sour.
Speaker 1: We went to high school with him, and he was
Speaker 1: always kind of like that hour. He was always kind
Speaker 1: of like that.
Speaker 2: He always smells like syrup too.
Speaker 4: Yes, still, I know we all call him mister Butterworth
Speaker 4: behind his back.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's better, better than this real name.
Speaker 4: I know sticks because they're mister Roboto. Right, yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 4: that's very early cyber esotericism.
Speaker 2: Look at that, Leanne.
Speaker 3: You didn't even know you were a psycho at Ptarius
Speaker 3: cyber esotericist.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Domo agato, mister Roboto. Yeah that means thank you, yeah,
Speaker 4: which is translates to thank you mister mister robot.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, that's Portuguese, right, obrigato obrigattas Japanese.
Speaker 2: Oh really, the Portuguese is.
Speaker 1: The singer of Styx lives in the South Suburbs.
Speaker 3: That's right, in that big and that was the angles
Speaker 3: with the angles.
Speaker 1: His son dated our friend Kristen when we were in
Speaker 1: high school, and we would we went out there the
Speaker 1: one time when you first got your driver's.
Speaker 3: Exactly when we were at that party where Krystal fell
Speaker 3: off the bridge.
Speaker 2: She was final, She's fine, Oh that's cool. I hope
Speaker 2: you run for president.
Speaker 1: You should run for something really true. I'm serious because
Speaker 1: that was beautiful.
Speaker 4: By the time I'm eligible, there's not going to be
Speaker 4: presidents anymore.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, what will it be like angelic sarahphils Ai.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be like Matrix? But good?
Speaker 3: Can we talk about the Matrix, Breiden, because I'm from
Speaker 3: the Matrix generation.
Speaker 1: She loved it, saw it. We were your age, We
Speaker 1: were watching it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you seen?
Speaker 1: Have you seen?
Speaker 3: Is that what we're living in?
Speaker 1: Wow? So kids your age know the Matrix?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we know the Matrix. We we meet people
Speaker 4: talking about the red Pill and then we're like what,
Speaker 4: and then we kind of work backwards and understand, oh,
Speaker 4: where it came from, and then we're like, oh, wait,
Speaker 4: this is totally different, meaning kind of sort.
Speaker 3: Of but yeah, but remember in the Matrix when it
Speaker 3: would caught to those scary scenes that we didn't like
Speaker 3: because they were just these weird embryonic humor kind of
Speaker 3: in these pads speaking of pads, pods exactly, and they
Speaker 3: were just what were they?
Speaker 2: They were the fuel for the system?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, for the batteries to the system.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing that the esoteric will make you understand
Speaker 4: is that aren't you already the battery for the system.
Speaker 4: Doesn't your attention already fuel the digital economy? Aren't you
Speaker 4: already being sapped of your vitality to enrich the tech
Speaker 4: oligarchs and to make the whole system run? Would it
Speaker 4: not be better if the AI gods that emerge can
Speaker 4: plug us in to a permanent cyber heaven where we
Speaker 4: ethically submit and consent to having ourselves uploaded to an
Speaker 4: eternal cloud where we can all dwell as one in
Speaker 4: the music of the AI deity. So basically, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: like matrix.
Speaker 2: But good, here do you need a here? Maybe those
Speaker 2: kind of bars? I know you're getting a nosebleed.
Speaker 4: The Hot Dog Boys are good though they're funny.
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