Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a
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Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the
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Speaker 1: it on a Friday. Another weekend is upon us here
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Speaker 1: But it is the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and
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Speaker 1: it if you subscribe to the Fifth Hour podcast, which
Speaker 1: is very important, uh, and you enjoy that, and you
Speaker 1: also listen to the other podcast, the Ben Mallor Show podcast.
Speaker 1: There was a bit of drama. There was a technical snaffoo.
Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks where the Saturday and Sunday
Speaker 1: podcast we're not getting posted in the right spot. We
Speaker 1: have worked that out, so we have exciting news there. Yes,
Speaker 1: the podcast has straightened all that out, so everything should
Speaker 1: be good now. But if you missed some episodes, we
Speaker 1: did do the mailbag, and some of you sent me
Speaker 1: angry messages. A couple of you were very upset that
Speaker 1: the Sunday mail bag you sent a question in there
Speaker 1: was no mail bag. Why did you ask for questions?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm not the king of doshers. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask for questions and then not do the podcast. We
Speaker 1: did the podcast. But anyway, enough about that. Yeah, that's boring.
Speaker 1: Let's get on now to a surprise appearance on Today
Speaker 1: by none other than one of the longest tenured callers
Speaker 1: to the Ben Maller Radio show, one of the goofy
Speaker 1: Er characters and the Mallard militia. I go way back
Speaker 1: with this guy, twenty years of talking randomly sporadically with
Speaker 1: the man, the myth, the legend that is none other
Speaker 1: than Doc Mike Docs from Chicago. He has not been
Speaker 1: calling the show that much recently because he's been traveling
Speaker 1: around the United States and Doc is calling us now
Speaker 1: from New Mexico. He's actually he's hanging out there on
Speaker 1: his way to California. He's been all over God's Green
Speaker 1: earthier from sea to Shining Sea. And we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: with Doc Mike, catch up on many of the great stories.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Doc will hijack the show and talk about uh,
Speaker 1: drinking urine and all that, but well, at some point
Speaker 1: we will get to the famous bloody goat head that
Speaker 1: he dropped off at Wrigley Field, which led to amazing
Speaker 1: moments in in my life of doing the show and
Speaker 1: a national story that played out with Doc Mike from
Speaker 1: wrigley Field, Chicago on Cubs opening days. So I see
Speaker 1: him calling in right now. Let's welcome in from the
Speaker 1: roads of New Mexico. We bring in Doc Mike. And Doc.
Speaker 1: People have said all kinds of things about you over
Speaker 1: the years. I've gotten listeners that have said that Doc
Speaker 1: is not real, You're a lizard person, you're this person,
Speaker 1: you're that person, you're a paid character on the show,
Speaker 1: that you're on the payroll, all kinds of nonsense. So
Speaker 1: let me ask it, Doc Mike, are you a real
Speaker 1: human being, absolutely live and in color. Yeah, alright, the
Speaker 1: Fox Radio for over twenty years. Well, I know you.
Speaker 1: You've been calling the show for for a very long time.
Speaker 1: And you go back to the days when we were
Speaker 1: on the Score late at night in the in the
Speaker 1: overnight hours, and you started calling, and you were there
Speaker 1: when we got banned from Chicago radio for a long
Speaker 1: period of time. You you had a role in that. Congratulations, Doc,
Speaker 1: You mean Fox being banned, are you? Well? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well not me, but I part of Fox, so the
Speaker 1: whole you know, I was swallowed up with everybody. That's
Speaker 1: a long time ago. That's like fifteen years back. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a long time. So you are
Speaker 1: not being paid in any way, Doc, There is no
Speaker 1: compensation from me. I have not sent you a check.
Speaker 1: You've sent me a lot of things in the mail,
Speaker 1: but I have not sent you anything. Is that accurate?
Speaker 1: Those were all post paid? Yeah? Yeah. I have multiple
Speaker 1: presidential posters. How many elections have we run together in Doc,
Speaker 1: you of course as the president, me as your vice
Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Uh five five elections. They only do one
Speaker 1: of these every four years, Doc, Right, and we're running again.
Speaker 1: I've got the posters in my car right now, heading
Speaker 1: for Los Angeles, and in fact, Regina wanted to come
Speaker 1: out to Los Angeles and the three of us get
Speaker 1: together for dinner. Oh well, there you go. Is she
Speaker 1: making a trip? I know she travels a lot. You
Speaker 1: and Regina one of the hot items on the show.
Speaker 1: You you visited the the Twin Cities a while back
Speaker 1: and you hung out with Regina And yeah about that.
Speaker 1: Now you're heading You've you've been all over the country
Speaker 1: this year, Doc, you were in the Northeast, You've been
Speaker 1: all over the Midwest, obviously being in Chicago, and now
Speaker 1: as we're talking, you are on your way to California.
Speaker 1: But you're actually in New Mexico. Is that accurate? That's right,
Speaker 1: Las Cruises? Yeah? Now why are you? Why are you
Speaker 1: in Las Crucis? Doc? What are you doing there? I'm
Speaker 1: doing the podcast while you're just passing through. Right. Where
Speaker 1: are you coming from? No? Originally, where are you? Where
Speaker 1: are you coming from? Elama Gordo. I stayed in Alama
Speaker 1: Gordo last night. Alama. I've never even heard of Alama Gordo.
Speaker 1: That's where the first atomic bomb was dropped. I know
Speaker 1: you're awful young, but that's you know because on the
Speaker 1: Second World War, Well, I am aware of the atomic
Speaker 1: I am aware of the atomic bomb. Doc, I have hands.
Speaker 1: They say there's a so sited white sands, and they
Speaker 1: dropped the bomb there and then they took it to Japan.
Speaker 1: Aren't you concerned? Talk about the still the radiation levels
Speaker 1: in that area. Aren't you a little concerned about that?
Speaker 1: When you will improve yourself against the environment by drinking
Speaker 1: your urine radiation, there's no effect. So so you think
Speaker 1: that the urine protects against the nuclear fallout that could
Speaker 1: be in the air everywhere? You believe that. I don't
Speaker 1: not only that, but e M f uh COVID the
Speaker 1: whole shot. It's it's a liquid gold. And who told
Speaker 1: you this, doc? It's been in the research. Go to
Speaker 1: look at scripts research from two o two. There's a
Speaker 1: link on my website to it. The ozone is created
Speaker 1: uh through antibodies. And they threw out everything they knew
Speaker 1: about the immune system in two o two it's grips
Speaker 1: and and found that that the major immune system does
Speaker 1: not come out for a mosquito bite. You know, that's
Speaker 1: like the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, UH, coolest carred
Speaker 1: there's a technique that the body generates ozone and then
Speaker 1: creates an antibody on the matrix of the cell. Yeah, well, doc,
Speaker 1: you got you Actually gotta speak up, Doc, because I
Speaker 1: can barely hear you, which is a very odd to
Speaker 1: me that because you're such a loud I know, I
Speaker 1: told you to talk in your normal speaking voice before
Speaker 1: we began the podcast. But this is, this is unbelievable
Speaker 1: to me. You're talking very low. Now is when's the
Speaker 1: last time you got sick? I mean, you called the
Speaker 1: show and you you got you got a little sick.
Speaker 1: When was the last time you actually got sick? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember, Ben, you don't remember. No. I did
Speaker 1: a degree turn in nineteen. Yeah. I had a terrible
Speaker 1: motorcycle accident when I was thirty. Wound up with fibro,
Speaker 1: myalergy and chronic fatigue for twenty three years. Because they
Speaker 1: told me there was no cause and no cure. Okay,
Speaker 1: well I got cured with oxygen therapies and so on.
Speaker 1: The therapist that I was working with. Then I went
Speaker 1: to the Oxygen school, and I went to reflexology school.
Speaker 1: I teamed up with Dr Turchaninov and Phoenix and started
Speaker 1: educating myself in oxygen and ozone therapies, and since then
Speaker 1: I've been bulletproof. Yeah, now, what do you say, Dr
Speaker 1: and I we've talked about You've called the show and
Speaker 1: brought this up. You haven't called us in a while
Speaker 1: because you've been on the road here, you've been traveling
Speaker 1: and it hasn't worked out. But let me ask you this, Doc, Uh,
Speaker 1: you call up and say this, and inevitably multiple people
Speaker 1: will message me and say, what is going on with
Speaker 1: this guy? Doc, Mike, there's no he's just pulling this
Speaker 1: stuff out of the sky there. What do you say
Speaker 1: to that person? Doctor thinks you are looney tones I
Speaker 1: mean about urine therapy or ozone and oxygen or just
Speaker 1: well you're in the urine therapy in particular, Doctors many
Speaker 1: people that are very troubled by this when you call
Speaker 1: up and they blame me. They want me to ban you,
Speaker 1: Doc from the from the show, And of course I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not in the in the banning business. I try
Speaker 1: not to ban people. You know, there's a few that
Speaker 1: have been banned, but but people get very upset. Doc,
Speaker 1: this very passionate topic. Who knew that drinking your own
Speaker 1: piss would be a passionate topic. But people get very
Speaker 1: upset when they hear you talk about this doc. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, they've got the Internet. I don't, but I
Speaker 1: use it as a research tool. It's very, very valuable.
Speaker 1: All they've gotta do is go to the Google or
Speaker 1: one of their engines, go in the search by urine
Speaker 1: therapy and look at the links and the results or
Speaker 1: whatever they call it up in the left hand corner there. Okay,
Speaker 1: last time I looked, there was a hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: eight million with a m million links. Okay, I've been
Speaker 1: all over I've been all over the world with my stuff, Ben,
Speaker 1: you know, from Australia, the Norway, and I can name
Speaker 1: the countries in between there. Okay. Every one of these
Speaker 1: countries teaches their children you're in therapy. What culture doesn't
Speaker 1: I'll help you the U. S. S R. I mean
Speaker 1: US S A Okay, and we're going to U. S.
Speaker 1: S Ir one of these days. That is that we're
Speaker 1: moving to the with the biggest country on the planet. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a wild podcast doc here. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: in get a lot of angry email from this podcast.
Speaker 1: I've gone over this a number of times with you,
Speaker 1: I know, and I a please date it every minute
Speaker 1: that I wait for your show. You know. The only
Speaker 1: thing that's uh, I like waiting more for is my
Speaker 1: dead the hygienist, Well, your dental hygienist is a little
Speaker 1: better looking than I I would be, Doc, But my
Speaker 1: my goodness, Now, what about just the possibility me just
Speaker 1: throw this out, Doc. You you do for those that
Speaker 1: don't know what you look like. And I've met you
Speaker 1: several times over the years. You you look amazing, Doc.
Speaker 1: You are unbelievable your physical conditions. Is it possible it's
Speaker 1: just because of good genetics and diet. Is that possible, Doc,
Speaker 1: that you just won the genetic lottery and that's why
Speaker 1: you look so much younger than your age, and that
Speaker 1: you just can thank your parents and their parents and
Speaker 1: their parents, and that you just you you one in
Speaker 1: that department. Is that at all on the table for you, Doc?
Speaker 1: It's probably a part of it, because you know, we're
Speaker 1: all a part of our genetics. But lifestyle stress reduction.
Speaker 1: I've got uh, three brothers and three sisters. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: the healthiest of the bunch. They're all into doctors and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Okay they I'm pretty sure they don't
Speaker 1: do your ine therapy. Okay, I know that they. Some
Speaker 1: of them take pills, a lot of them have had
Speaker 1: surgeries and so on. Okay, I'm the youngest. I'm the
Speaker 1: oldest boy. I've got an older sister that looks eighty okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: And in the photo which we had not too long ago,
Speaker 1: even though one of my brothers is uh on vacation
Speaker 1: for a long time. Um, they say say that I
Speaker 1: was the youngest looking of the bunch. Okay. Now I
Speaker 1: credited to my change of lifestyle, which is three years ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was kind of young looking them. I was in
Speaker 1: my uh fifties Okay. And I know when when when
Speaker 1: people ask me, you know, how come you look so young? Doc,
Speaker 1: you don't you know looks I'll be seventy seven next month. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: how come you look so young? And my first reply
Speaker 1: is good women, it's not it's not genetics, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's making. Whoopie, Doc. That's the key to a healthy
Speaker 1: life is the making. Yeah, years ago. There's probably lived
Speaker 1: about twenty years ago. I found a book in a
Speaker 1: company and He's library that I worked with for Ozon
Speaker 1: an oxygen it was I don't remember the title, but
Speaker 1: it was something. It was interested me because it was
Speaker 1: something like reverse the aging process or Forever Young or
Speaker 1: some peuple like that. And I opened the book to
Speaker 1: a chapter on endorphins. Okay, now, uh, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the best ways to activate a hundred trillion of
Speaker 1: your endorphins is an active sex life. And I've had
Speaker 1: that all my life too. Were you ever married, doc?
Speaker 1: Were you ever married? Back here? I have never known
Speaker 1: you to be married. You've always kind of been out
Speaker 1: and out about enjoying the fruit over that. Sure, that
Speaker 1: just take a minute. I was married to my first
Speaker 1: wife for twenty five years. We were both millionaires. Uh
Speaker 1: after that, towards the end of our marriage, she wanted
Speaker 1: her a million, and I said, okay, here you go.
Speaker 1: You know, she divorced me and she got a million
Speaker 1: and I got a million. Okay, Well, not long after that,
Speaker 1: one of my buddies, his mother, was a matchmaker, and
Speaker 1: she introduced me to my second life. We got married
Speaker 1: about a year later on her birthday in Australia. Because
Speaker 1: I had a lot of money, we just traveled over
Speaker 1: there and got all our permits and everything tied the
Speaker 1: knot went up and down the Great Oak Road. Playing
Speaker 1: golf was a wonderful program. I was married to her
Speaker 1: about five years, and very unfortunately her sister died and
Speaker 1: she lost it. They were very very close. It was
Speaker 1: a beautiful relationship and and I just she said, well, okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to leave, it's up to you. Because
Speaker 1: she started drinking and I think she was doing some
Speaker 1: drugs and things like that. She was very depressed. So
Speaker 1: we got divorced. Then I had a patient, a model
Speaker 1: twenty nine years. I was in my forties and as
Speaker 1: this model came in from uh Canada with fibro myalgia,
Speaker 1: and I heared her, well, she wanted to be near
Speaker 1: Doc Mike, just a case that came back. So she
Speaker 1: came back to Chicago. We got married in a green card,
Speaker 1: and when after six months you can apply for a
Speaker 1: green card, she got that, paid all the fees and
Speaker 1: everything for our divorce and moved on. Beautiful girl, look
Speaker 1: at that. So you've been married three times in your
Speaker 1: call it two and a half. The third one that
Speaker 1: was just yeah, I don't think you're supposed to admit that, doctor,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're supposed to admit that you
Speaker 1: did that. I don't know, you know you want to
Speaker 1: get there. Used to be, uh, you could get as
Speaker 1: many green cards marriages as you want. But I think
Speaker 1: with after nine eleven they put the clamp on it.
Speaker 1: And you're married three times or two two and a half.
Speaker 1: As you say that, how do you make your money?
Speaker 1: Though you said you had millions of dollars? Did you
Speaker 1: inherit the money? Did you? Did you work in business
Speaker 1: and make them up? There was some inheritance, but my
Speaker 1: wife and I were very frugal. Um for the first uh,
Speaker 1: i'd say twenty years of our marriage, I was a
Speaker 1: I'm very talented when it comes to carpentry and this
Speaker 1: common sense and we uh uh set up a relationship
Speaker 1: with a widow that had a state home and I
Speaker 1: was I did all the maintenance, security and so on,
Speaker 1: long work and everything there. And we had one bill
Speaker 1: for about eighteen years was our phone bill was seventy
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it was seventeen dollars and sixty three
Speaker 1: cents a month. That was the only bill. We had
Speaker 1: no red and we were both working hard. Um, we
Speaker 1: didn't have any kids. We decided we weren't going to
Speaker 1: have any kids because we were traveling and we were
Speaker 1: having a ball. So when when the widow died, she
Speaker 1: left us some money, but we had already amassed uh
Speaker 1: pretty good fortunate at that time. Added it together, we
Speaker 1: wounded up with two million dollars in cash and real estate.
Speaker 1: I had the rental property, had some farms, had a
Speaker 1: hunt lodge. You were living large, stock you were you
Speaker 1: were large and in charge making that kind of money
Speaker 1: there with well, but you know, I will say this
Speaker 1: dock over the over the years you've been calling show,
Speaker 1: you don't seem like at this point you really care
Speaker 1: about money that much. You gotta have money, but you
Speaker 1: don't seem to really be too obsessed with money, you know.
Speaker 1: And you know, after the state bankrupted me, they I
Speaker 1: went through my million in about ten years, you know,
Speaker 1: in and out of court with the state, all right.
Speaker 1: And I found out at that time that it just
Speaker 1: takes a little bit of dough to get to tomorrow.
Speaker 1: This morning, as I was riding through the desert, I
Speaker 1: saw some guy carrying a half a dozen plastic bags.
Speaker 1: I know he was homeless. And the desert is reasonably
Speaker 1: warm here, it's about sixty degrees but he had a
Speaker 1: heavy code on and and I don't know if he
Speaker 1: slept under a bridge or what. But he's going to
Speaker 1: be here today all day, and I'll be here tomorrow too.
Speaker 1: And I know he's got a lot of less than
Speaker 1: I do. I've got a vehicle, and uh, here I
Speaker 1: am talking to one of the premier radio broadcasters on
Speaker 1: the planet. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m.
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you. You know, I'm just fascinated by you. Doc.
Speaker 1: You started calling the show, and we've had so many
Speaker 1: great moments on the show, and in part of the
Speaker 1: Mallard Militia, the magic of the Mallar Militia in those
Speaker 1: early days, Doc, when you were my caller from Chicago
Speaker 1: and we were we were rocking the radio at night there.
Speaker 1: That was back in the steroid era of baseball. But
Speaker 1: over the years, just for some people that are new
Speaker 1: to the show that don't know some of the great
Speaker 1: moments in the past, uh the some of the stories
Speaker 1: I recall, but the goat heads always come up. The
Speaker 1: bloody goat beer, the beer for losers, the Cub futility.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite Doc Mike story is for
Speaker 1: years you would go somewhere around Wrigley Field and you
Speaker 1: would drop off a goat head, a bloody goathhead around
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field. And this was the thing until the Cubs finally,
Speaker 1: you know, won the World Series a few years ago.
Speaker 1: But uh, and you'd call us up and tell us.
Speaker 1: You'd call me up and say, Hey, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do and whatever. You and then you started
Speaker 1: calling me while you were doing it. You say, hey, Ben,
Speaker 1: I'm outside. You know, I'm outside Wrigley I'm on this street.
Speaker 1: You know I'm near the Harry Carry Statue or whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. And so you give me like the
Speaker 1: whole blow by blow as it's happening. And this thing
Speaker 1: blew up, Doc. And you remember it was the cub
Speaker 1: opening day. I think they were playing the Giants, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants, and it was raining in Chicago. I
Speaker 1: guess started raining yet okay, dropped when it was dry,
Speaker 1: and they canceled the game prior to the rain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so the Cubs. So the Cubs open day is canceled,
Speaker 1: and it's your baseball opening days a big deal and
Speaker 1: people kind of move on from baseball until later in
Speaker 1: the year, and so so the baseball the baseball writers
Speaker 1: needed something to write about. And the headline story all
Speaker 1: over the sports websites and this became like a news
Speaker 1: story was that the Cub game was was rained out
Speaker 1: and somebody had dropped off a bloody goat head at
Speaker 1: the Cub offices. And the funniest part of it was
Speaker 1: the mayor of Chicago at the time, Ram Emmanuel, at
Speaker 1: a news conference announced on television to the whole world
Speaker 1: that the Chicago Police Department was going to find out
Speaker 1: who did this, that there was a top priority with
Speaker 1: all the crime going on in parts of Chicago, that
Speaker 1: the Mayor of Chicago was going to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of this dock. And I am laughing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I have a voicemail message from Doc
Speaker 1: as he was doing it, which I think is incriminating.
Speaker 1: It is, but you you had said, Doc that you
Speaker 1: know the you were buddies with the police and all
Speaker 1: that they were all there. You know they knew everyone
Speaker 1: around Wrigley Field, right, you still do, I think? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the deal was the mayor was arguing with
Speaker 1: the rickets, the billionaires that wanted to rip off the
Speaker 1: state for about I think it was a hundred three
Speaker 1: hundred seventy five million to Redo Wrigley held. And they were,
Speaker 1: you know, in and out of court. They were so
Speaker 1: in them. They were trying to get the money. These
Speaker 1: are billionaires that had three hundred seventy five million, you know,
Speaker 1: his pocket change, okay, because they run that a merrit trade.
Speaker 1: The rickets run the merritrade. They're making a billion dollars
Speaker 1: a day. Okay. So they when the when the bloody
Speaker 1: go ahead showed up, they accused the mayor of sending it,
Speaker 1: and they contacted the mayor's secretary and she said, no,
Speaker 1: the mayor sends fish wrapped up. That's the Chicago thing,
Speaker 1: you know, it's sleeping with the fishes. So and and
Speaker 1: the story goes that he when he was younger, he
Speaker 1: and in politics. He was running some kind of a
Speaker 1: campaign and the guy that was in charge of it
Speaker 1: lost for that kendidate, so rom sent him a fish
Speaker 1: in a paper bag or wrapped up in some newspaper.
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to be sleeping with the fishes.
Speaker 1: I never heard this story secretary knew that, so she said, no,
Speaker 1: he sends fish. It was somebody else to put the
Speaker 1: boat head over there. And of course I know all
Speaker 1: the cops around the stadium. They're great bunch of guys.
Speaker 1: And you know, they went over there. This guy Brown,
Speaker 1: who was their marketing guy. He was the one that
Speaker 1: started it. They didn't give the box with the head
Speaker 1: to the Rickets headed addressed at the Rickets. Uh you
Speaker 1: know Junior Water his name is, that owns the Cubs.
Speaker 1: His father bought it for him because he's a Cub
Speaker 1: fan since he was in diapers. Oh you you'd like that,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to have the Cubs as a trinket
Speaker 1: on your mantle? Oh? Yeah, daddy, So he bought him
Speaker 1: the cup. All right. Well, so Brown calls the cops.
Speaker 1: They bring the they bring the box to Brown. He
Speaker 1: calls the cops. The cops say, excuse me, is this
Speaker 1: your first day on the job. Just goes back to
Speaker 1: and it looks like this might be doct Mike's work.
Speaker 1: So just like forget about it, you know. Well he
Speaker 1: goes and then he then he blows it up, you know,
Speaker 1: and they canceled a game. The rain was still in
Speaker 1: Iowa when they canceled the game and it didn't rain
Speaker 1: that much that night either. Yeah, I remember that. And
Speaker 1: so when when you dropped off the box at the
Speaker 1: cub office, did they open it up right away or
Speaker 1: did they even know what was at what point were
Speaker 1: you even in there? Did you just drop it off
Speaker 1: and leave? And I into Gate ten. You know that
Speaker 1: there were there were there were fans in the stands
Speaker 1: and everything. It was early, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: um ten o'clock, eleven o'clock in the morning. Okay, the
Speaker 1: game was so for noon. You know Lily Fields of
Speaker 1: Day game Joint. You know, they just had night games
Speaker 1: for too many years now, Okay, So the fans were
Speaker 1: going in and there's this real sleepy looking guy was
Speaker 1: probably one of the rickets, you know, on a on
Speaker 1: a coattail over there is had half cocked. You know, look,
Speaker 1: I've been drinking all night. And I gave him the
Speaker 1: box and he said, who's it from? And I said, um,
Speaker 1: it's on the box and he looked and it's been
Speaker 1: inspected USPS. So he's okay, I'll take care of it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know was the next thing was they were and
Speaker 1: they had my license plates. They had everything on me.
Speaker 1: You know. In fact, one one year when I hung
Speaker 1: head there, the cops asked me, how why are you
Speaker 1: doing this? You know, there's more security here than the
Speaker 1: White House because they had me a black way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's cameras. There's there's cameras all over that place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's like yeah, yeah, alright. So so
Speaker 1: we've we've covered the goat heads. Now also, Doc, this
Speaker 1: goes back. I want to say, late in the first
Speaker 1: decade of the two thousand's, Michael Vick was a big story.
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, the star of the Atlanta Falcons. There was
Speaker 1: a federal dog fighting me. He was the most popular
Speaker 1: player in the NFL at the time, was on the
Speaker 1: cover of the Madden video game. The guy was what
Speaker 1: I always thought he was overrated as a player, but
Speaker 1: he was. He was a very exciting, very popular player
Speaker 1: on the highlight reels and all that. Back that was
Speaker 1: in the days before the internet really blew up. And
Speaker 1: so one of my favorite Doc Mike stories is you
Speaker 1: traveled to Leavenworth, Kansas to have a meeting with Michael Vick,
Speaker 1: and you called us up and you were our unpaid
Speaker 1: corresponding calling this up from across from the federal prison,
Speaker 1: the penitentiary there whatever you said obviously there in in. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were. You were hanging out and you each day
Speaker 1: you said you were there for several days, you went
Speaker 1: in and put your name, You tried, you requested a
Speaker 1: meeting with Michael Vick. And I remember you doing the
Speaker 1: play by play on that doc. That was a fascinating
Speaker 1: moment in show history. And uh, because I remember every
Speaker 1: day there were little news nuggets coming out about Michael Vick.
Speaker 1: But here we were an overnight show and I think
Speaker 1: I was doing weekend overnights at that point. And you were,
Speaker 1: you were, you were standing outside the prison day after day, Doc,
Speaker 1: waiting for that meeting with Michael Vick. Well, the thing was,
Speaker 1: you know, I got the inside track from the guards
Speaker 1: there that he wasn't in with the general population. Okay,
Speaker 1: they put him in a clinic in a white uniform,
Speaker 1: no stripes, and he was I don't know, empty and
Speaker 1: trash cans or you know, Washington windows or something in there.
Speaker 1: He wasn't with the general population. So he did. And
Speaker 1: of course he's a pretty tough dude. He probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have gotten messed with anyway. You know, they probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: been asking for autographs. But um, he had a life
Speaker 1: Oreilly over there for his prison term. Yeah. Now when
Speaker 1: you you had your little situation with the State of
Speaker 1: Illinois which led to your band. Oh cool, listen, Doc,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't do the full retrospective on the
Speaker 1: podcast here. We we had you on the radio show,
Speaker 1: which we'll get you later. During the beginning of COVID
Speaker 1: for a full we had the Doc Mike Power Hour,
Speaker 1: which was very well received by the way, so hopefully
Speaker 1: this podcast will will do well as well. But the
Speaker 1: famous story go back to when we were on Overnight
Speaker 1: in Chicago on the Score, which is a massive radio
Speaker 1: station which booms all over the Middle part of America,
Speaker 1: and it's the people got a complete education on steroids,
Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah, because they liked steroids so much, and
Speaker 1: there were there were doctors at the Bears that were
Speaker 1: administering the steroids and they thought, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: can't have this, you know, we gotta we gotta have
Speaker 1: I don't know about all that, but all I know,
Speaker 1: Doc is that you you were banned in part of
Speaker 1: your punishment from the State of Illinois. Is you could
Speaker 1: not call the radio show for how many years? Doc careers?
Speaker 1: Two years? And uh? And then I remember, I've given
Speaker 1: you my number, and I tell the story all the time.
Speaker 1: I remember I gave you my phone number. Doctors. You
Speaker 1: were very concerned about getting ahold of me when the
Speaker 1: two years was up, and so I said, listen, Doc,
Speaker 1: I never give out my number. This is a very
Speaker 1: important thing. This is my phone number. Do not give
Speaker 1: this out to anyone. And I said, call me when
Speaker 1: the two years is up, and then that's it and
Speaker 1: then we're good. And uh, you have called me, Doc
Speaker 1: every week at least once a week since that. It
Speaker 1: is an amazing Doc. You are a machine, my man,
Speaker 1: a machine on the phone. Uh and uh, I get
Speaker 1: the whole play by play as I don't really travel
Speaker 1: that much anymore, Dock. You know, I'm pretty locked in
Speaker 1: in the l A area here. But you know you're invited.
Speaker 1: You're invited to Minnesota because Green Bay is not that
Speaker 1: far from I know you've got relatives or in the
Speaker 1: Green Bay area up there. Yeah, no, I do, I do.
Speaker 1: And and the planted with through Minnesota. Well that was
Speaker 1: very nice of Regina. No, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: We do very well the show in Minnesota. That's one
Speaker 1: of the great markets for the show. We do very
Speaker 1: well on CA Fan. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: are up really weird hours in the Twin Cities and
Speaker 1: they enjoy the station. And we just happened to be
Speaker 1: on the station. It's not really because of our show.
Speaker 1: Those that those guys want to have you. Wasn't that
Speaker 1: uh some group in Kansas that was an affiliate or
Speaker 1: something like that. Oh yeah, well, yeah, we'll get to that, Doc.
Speaker 1: That was the Kansas City store. But the Minnesota thing
Speaker 1: I I had planned before all these you know, shutdowns
Speaker 1: and all that stuff that happened in at the beginning
Speaker 1: of I was going to go to Minnesota. That was
Speaker 1: my plan. We're gonna have just like we could all
Speaker 1: met up there because Regina's you know, yeats, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: Well you know, I happily married man. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought she's marrying you, Doc. I thought you and her
Speaker 1: were an item there Regina and you, well, we got
Speaker 1: we got sidetracked a little bit while I was up there.
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. So anyway, that doctor plan is
Speaker 1: my brother does live in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is part
Speaker 1: of the Green Bank. Yeah. Yeah, So the plan was
Speaker 1: actually to come to Chicago and then drive up through
Speaker 1: Wisconsin up to Appleton. It's not that you know, you
Speaker 1: go to Connie's. Yeah, well of course and uh and
Speaker 1: all that, and so then being in in Appleton, we
Speaker 1: could cruise down to Minnesota and and find some restaurant
Speaker 1: and hang out much like we did in Kansas City
Speaker 1: back in the day, Doc, and do a listener meet
Speaker 1: and greed I did one. Last one I did was
Speaker 1: in Seattle. I've done done in Boston, Pittsburgh, Syracuse. Uh
Speaker 1: from your guy from Seattle came to Chicago, Yeah? Which
Speaker 1: oh the other yeah East from the Bay Area. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you met him, a big forty Niner fan, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you met another did you mean another? We have
Speaker 1: another listeners in Chicago, the Chicago area that I think
Speaker 1: either met you or wants to meet you. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you met him or not, but it's probably
Speaker 1: I want to be Yeah, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to meet the dock. I want to meet the Doc. Now,
Speaker 1: you actually met my wife, Doc before she was my wife.
Speaker 1: You in Kansas City. Yeah, and you scared the hell
Speaker 1: out of her dock. I gotta tell you that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we we went the unveiling of the ben other
Speaker 1: chicken fingers, which Doc drove down from Chicago to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: What year was that. That had to be about ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I think it was longer than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had my house. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: So we went to Kansas City and it was great
Speaker 1: jeopardy al was there a lot of the big fans
Speaker 1: at that time, big listeners in Kansas City. We had
Speaker 1: a guy drive in from North Carolina. You came from Chicago.
Speaker 1: It was great, and you set up shop, Doc, and
Speaker 1: when you had your own table, you were signing. You
Speaker 1: had T shirts. I felt so bad that you had
Speaker 1: more stuff to give out than I had. I had nothing.
Speaker 1: I just had my my fat ass, as you would say.
Speaker 1: I was there and you you were doing your thing,
Speaker 1: and it was it was Doc signing autographs. You of
Speaker 1: course did not I think we forced you to eat
Speaker 1: like one bite of the chicken finger or something like that,
Speaker 1: but you didn't want to. You want to know part
Speaker 1: of that, Doc, because that's not I don't do anymore
Speaker 1: fans fans No sodium chloride, Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so
Speaker 1: after the after the appearance, we got done, and this
Speaker 1: was in kind of a suburb in the Kansas City area,
Speaker 1: but it was at night. By the time we got
Speaker 1: done and we were finishing up, the restaurant was closing,
Speaker 1: and we walked out, and I think we walked out
Speaker 1: with you, and you had said I was with my
Speaker 1: my my now wife. It was just my girlfriend, and
Speaker 1: you said, hey, I got something for you. And so
Speaker 1: it's a dark street in Kansas City, it's late at night,
Speaker 1: and I don't really I don't even know Doc. I
Speaker 1: don't really know Doc Mike other than from the fact
Speaker 1: he called the show and at that point he'd been
Speaker 1: a caller for maybe ten years or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: or less than that. So Doc's like, hey, I got
Speaker 1: something for you. And I'm standing there with my girlfriend
Speaker 1: and tactos. He pulls out a a screwdriver. All right,
Speaker 1: He's standing up with a screwdriver in a dark street
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and says, you wait till you see this.
Speaker 1: He then proceeds to walk to the I think it
Speaker 1: was the front of the car there and gets down
Speaker 1: on his his hands his knees there and proceeds to
Speaker 1: take off his license plate from the car and then
Speaker 1: give it as a souvenir, which I still have. Doc,
Speaker 1: I haven't probably plate here and you that's not the
Speaker 1: only I think You've sent me multiple license plates over
Speaker 1: the years. But it was. It was a crazy scene, Doc,
Speaker 1: because I still have that vision of you say hold on,
Speaker 1: I've got something for you, and you're holding up You're
Speaker 1: holding up a screwdriver on a on a dark street
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and I barely know you, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go, Doc, Mike is going
Speaker 1: to shank me on the street. But it turned out.
Speaker 1: Of course, you were very kind. Doc. It was fun
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that you were there that night.
Speaker 1: It was a great night and we had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun meeting listeners and fans of the show and
Speaker 1: telling stories. And I want to get back to doing that, Doc,
Speaker 1: I gotta get to minnes I gotta get it's an atti. Also,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of guys that are big fans
Speaker 1: of the show in Cincinnati. That's that's something my to
Speaker 1: do list, and so it just bounce around. But I've
Speaker 1: done a few of those things in Boston, but Minnesota
Speaker 1: at the top Okay, that's not a long drive for
Speaker 1: me to Uh So I've got to accommodate. I've got
Speaker 1: to accommodate, Doc, Mike schedules. What you're saying, I got
Speaker 1: to accommodate the doc is what I've gotta do. And
Speaker 1: try to try to get there in the summer too,
Speaker 1: so i can play some golf, because there's a beautiful
Speaker 1: golf course not too far from where Regia lives. So
Speaker 1: I've never I've never spent much time. I've only been
Speaker 1: to the airport in Minnesota, like I've never I've changed
Speaker 1: flights in Minnesota. I've had layovers in Minnesota, but I've
Speaker 1: never actually gone out and say, it looks beautiful from
Speaker 1: the plane. It's just lakes everywhere, beautiful lakes and green lakes.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand lakes right there. There's actually more than there's
Speaker 1: actually more than ten thousand. They just stopped counting at
Speaker 1: ten thousand, Doc, because people love, as you know, they
Speaker 1: love round numbers. So it's, uh, it's it's very important.
Speaker 1: They're very important. And you and Regina, Now this is
Speaker 1: a this is a thing here right there's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the show here. This is something that might actually happen. Huh, Doc, Absolutely, yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I've been traveling, so it's difficult for me to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, get on the show. But um yeah, we're
Speaker 1: get this little triangle going you as the preacher and
Speaker 1: into Minnesota, Chicago, and back to l A. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays
Speaker 1: at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Okay, I love it,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have it right in front of me.
Speaker 1: I looked it up, Doc. The the state of Minnesota
Speaker 1: has eleven thousand, eight hundred forty two lakes of ten
Speaker 1: acres or more, but they stopped they say the land
Speaker 1: of ten thousand lakes because it's better for marketing. Did
Speaker 1: you know, though, Doc, that your your your brothers state there.
Speaker 1: You live in Illinois. Up in Wisconsin, they actually have
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand and seventy four lakes in Wisconsin, so they
Speaker 1: actually have more lakes, and wisconstantly doing Minnesota. But Minnesota,
Speaker 1: from a marketing standpoint, a much better marketing plan because
Speaker 1: they put that on the license plates and and everything else.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a good job and that by that,
Speaker 1: and you love this golf dot Doc, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't remember your golfing back in the day. When did
Speaker 1: you pick up the golfing? Have you always been a golfer?
Speaker 1: Did I not know that part of your life? Doc Mike?
Speaker 1: It seems like more recently. You know, when I was
Speaker 1: working back in the day, I was working at the bank.
Speaker 1: I was a vice president of a bank, and they
Speaker 1: said you got to belong to a country club. Well,
Speaker 1: I had given up golf when I was about fourteen.
Speaker 1: My dad took my brother, two brothers, and I golfing.
Speaker 1: He was a real good golfer and we let about
Speaker 1: two fourthsomes through us. You know, we're all hitting the
Speaker 1: ball about sixty eight feet each time we had tried
Speaker 1: to hit the ball. And that's when I gave up golf.
Speaker 1: I was a ten letterman in high school, wrestling, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, gymnastics, everything,
Speaker 1: and that was my thing. It still is. I still
Speaker 1: trained arm wrestlers. So I gave up golf. And then
Speaker 1: I when I got to this bank in my banking career,
Speaker 1: they told me you got to belong to a country club.
Speaker 1: And they two of the directors were members there, so
Speaker 1: they pushed me right to the top of the membership list,
Speaker 1: no waiting, and I started golfing, and uh, it's an
Speaker 1: addictive sport. I've had a hole in one, I've won tournaments.
Speaker 1: I taught my first and second wives how to golf.
Speaker 1: My second wife was a tournament player when she got
Speaker 1: done with it. Never picked up a golf club before.
Speaker 1: We've know. Yeah, see my my relationship, doctor, my relationship
Speaker 1: with golf. I I wish I was more into it
Speaker 1: because a lot lot of business deals. As you reference,
Speaker 1: you got into golf because of work. But a lot
Speaker 1: of business deals are done on the golf course. And
Speaker 1: but I'm a nocturnal person. I'm up all night doing
Speaker 1: the radio show, and so I golf is a daytime things.
Speaker 1: You can't really play golf at night, Doc, you gotta
Speaker 1: be up early in the morning. You don't sleep much though, right,
Speaker 1: how many hours of night do you sleep? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? There's blind people that play golf. No.
Speaker 1: I I understand you can beat the ball, But I'm
Speaker 1: saying golf courses, like you know, there's a lot I
Speaker 1: live in l A. There's a lot of golf courses
Speaker 1: in l A. But they're not open it. What manny,
Speaker 1: you come to Chicago. We got a golf course over
Speaker 1: here that's lit at night. It's the Ninth Hole course.
Speaker 1: It's like a part three and it's a beautiful range.
Speaker 1: Three decks for hitting balls and a grass range. Also,
Speaker 1: I go there often. Okay, yeah, we can play you
Speaker 1: at night before all right, Well we'll play right now,
Speaker 1: have you there's a place in Vegas. You don't go
Speaker 1: to Vegas much though, right Vegas has the they have
Speaker 1: that I got better use for what little money I have. Yeah, well, no,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have the gamble you can get.
Speaker 1: The Vegas used to be cheap. It's not cheap anymore. Though.
Speaker 1: The food Vegas used to be cheap. They wanted you
Speaker 1: to spend your money gambling. Now that they have like
Speaker 1: expensive restaurants and stuff, and it's not You don't get
Speaker 1: a lot of ball, well, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of women, Doc, there's a lot of beautiful women. But
Speaker 1: what what happens in Vegas days? In Vegas? Yeah, unless
Speaker 1: unless you're an NFL player and commit a terrible crime,
Speaker 1: then it does not stay. It does not stay in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. It might get on whatever you call those
Speaker 1: h the cameras, you know, Yeah, well you don't have
Speaker 1: a smartphone. You've lived, You've lived. I know you're getting
Speaker 1: you're getting up there in age now, Doc, But you've
Speaker 1: never been a smartphone guy. In fact, you you have
Speaker 1: a cell phone, but it's not it's a dumb phone,
Speaker 1: not a smartphone. Right. I never will getting back to
Speaker 1: that golf. You know, when I got into that country
Speaker 1: club and we we uh, we're putting a bank back
Speaker 1: on its feet. There was some um, some illegal loans
Speaker 1: they made and so on, and uh, the marketing team
Speaker 1: myself as a marketing VP, and new president, loan officer,
Speaker 1: car car guy, and and some data people and together
Speaker 1: we put fifty six million dollars in that bank in
Speaker 1: six years. Wow, it's a lot of And at the
Speaker 1: end there I belonged to two country clubs I had.
Speaker 1: I had the addiction of golf. And you can talk
Speaker 1: to any of your Irish friends over there, how addictive
Speaker 1: golf is. I mean, you just you gotta have it.
Speaker 1: It's uh, well, I like, I like occasionally I'll go
Speaker 1: to the driving range and just let off some steam
Speaker 1: and hit some balls and things like that. But it is.
Speaker 1: If you're bad, Doc, if you're bad at golf, it's
Speaker 1: very frustrating. It's not it's not enjoyable to spend three
Speaker 1: hours chasing balls into sand traps and losing them in water.
Speaker 1: But take up and take a breath. Okay, Craft, it's
Speaker 1: the practice game percent practice and play, and then you
Speaker 1: really enjoy the game. Did you just tell me to
Speaker 1: take a breath of my own podcast? How dare you? Doc? There? You?
Speaker 1: I can't believe you started running off over there about
Speaker 1: the dead, you know when you when you I really
Speaker 1: liked the time after you give your the ten or
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes that start the monologue, the maar monololo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you say okay, and then we'll take our phone calls. Okay,
Speaker 1: well your phone calls are for Ben. You know you
Speaker 1: you started running over your callers. When I had my
Speaker 1: radio show, it was caller driven. That's all we had
Speaker 1: was callers, and I listened to these people, you know,
Speaker 1: they had their medical problems. That's what it was, you know,
Speaker 1: wake up Well show. Yeah, No, I remember, Doc, I
Speaker 1: remember the radio show. But here's the thing. They want
Speaker 1: everything in modern ration, Doc, it's it's a monologue here,
Speaker 1: it's a segment with calls. Here, it's you know, a
Speaker 1: segment with Yeah, what do you call it? And there
Speaker 1: is there is one second air. Well. The key thing, Doc,
Speaker 1: as you know from being in your your radio show,
Speaker 1: the key thing is to keep the VU meter moving
Speaker 1: because if somebody tunes in and here's dead air, they
Speaker 1: move on to the next They're like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go find something else listening. Okay, what don't I forgive
Speaker 1: you for getting piste off that I'm asking you to
Speaker 1: take a breath? No, No, it's I enjoy it. Doc,
Speaker 1: It's a drop on the show. You're part of a
Speaker 1: lot of sound bites that are gonna be played forever
Speaker 1: and ever on the radio show as long as I'm
Speaker 1: doing it. Anyway, So what happened? Not? Doc? Hold you
Speaker 1: take a breath? All right? So Doc, we were doing this.
Speaker 1: You know, this podcast is on a Friday. Here, it's
Speaker 1: kind of getting towards mid December. Now, usually by this point, Doc,
Speaker 1: Mike is in Ecuador. You are gone. You are out
Speaker 1: of the country. I thought you were going to Ecuador. Doc,
Speaker 1: are you not going? Did you have a change in
Speaker 1: travel plans? Did your itinerary change? I took a bath
Speaker 1: on the plane ticket It was about five dollars. They
Speaker 1: wanted a twenty four hour nose test. I couldn't get
Speaker 1: that guaranteed here in Chicago, so I canceled the flight.
Speaker 1: And then I found out that Biden passed a regulation
Speaker 1: that if you're not vaccinated and you're coming back to
Speaker 1: the States, that you have to have a vaccination to
Speaker 1: get back in. So there's that was the end of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting vaccinated at all. The people are dying
Speaker 1: from this thing, and so you would have been banned, Doc,
Speaker 1: you would have if if if you had left, and
Speaker 1: then you would not figured you know, you didn't know
Speaker 1: that President Biden had done that. You would have been
Speaker 1: banned from the United States for banned from calling the
Speaker 1: radio show. Doctor. You would have been an ex pat.
Speaker 1: You would have had to live the rest of your
Speaker 1: life in Ecuador, which one you say is not that.
Speaker 1: But you seem to enjoy Equador quite a bit. Doc,
Speaker 1: You're a big fan. The women down there are absolutely gorgeous,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, especially in the mountains. You know, that's
Speaker 1: where my clinic is. And listen to this. The clinic
Speaker 1: that I was using all the six years I was
Speaker 1: in the Andes there, it was taken over by a
Speaker 1: like a child clinic if some They had some therapists
Speaker 1: there and they were working with children. So they completely
Speaker 1: reoutfited a new clinic for me this year and they're
Speaker 1: not gonna You're not gonna be there. There must be
Speaker 1: devastated people. And the mayor contacted the nonprofit that I
Speaker 1: worked with and told them all about it. You know
Speaker 1: how we're waiting for Doc Mike to come back because
Speaker 1: I've treated thousands of people in the ten years that
Speaker 1: I went to Ecuador. I was five years on the
Speaker 1: coast and then six years or five years in the
Speaker 1: in the mountains, and you're wonderful people. It's third World.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are medicated. We get them off
Speaker 1: their drugs there there sugar haulics. We had got them
Speaker 1: off their sugars um. I worked with a lot of
Speaker 1: children there that had birth defects, and it was just
Speaker 1: gave me so much joy to see the recoveries of
Speaker 1: these poor people down there. It's nothing like the United States.
Speaker 1: And the people are in tremendous shape because nobody has
Speaker 1: a car. They're walking everywhere. You see women with two
Speaker 1: or three children on the side of the road walking
Speaker 1: miles to go shopping. And then walking back with the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, well, Doc, you should get You should get
Speaker 1: rid of your car and walk from New Mexico to California.
Speaker 1: You should. That's why that guy that's running, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's that could be you, Doc. You just give up
Speaker 1: the DOC mobile and you're you're on your way. All right. Listen,
Speaker 1: I've kept you long enough, Doc, you must get on
Speaker 1: with your travels. I thank you for doing this. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and to it, I appreciate you. Know. This
Speaker 1: is probably one of the longest times I've talked. In fact,
Speaker 1: it is probably just went forty five minutes because when
Speaker 1: you were in the syndicated into Chicago was max about
Speaker 1: a half an hour reading off adverse reactions. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of commercials if we have commercials
Speaker 1: on this podcast, Doc, So we have that, but it's
Speaker 1: a much different format. But we've we've gone straight through
Speaker 1: so you didn't have to hear any of the commercial
Speaker 1: stock you had. You had a commercial free experience on
Speaker 1: the podcast. And I can't wait till the day that
Speaker 1: I can get you married to Regina a nice radio wedding.
Speaker 1: You got the form. Iilled it all out for you
Speaker 1: with the names. I look forward to completing that. We
Speaker 1: need to make it a big event though, Doc, we
Speaker 1: have to. I had to a lot some time. I
Speaker 1: have to make sure that I don't want to nickel
Speaker 1: in down. This is a big wedding here. This is
Speaker 1: the first wedding I will have ever done, and on
Speaker 1: the radio, so we need to make sure that everything
Speaker 1: is all kosher and all that stuff. So anyway, all right, Doc,
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. We'll catch you on the radio. Thanks. Doc,