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Speaker 1: People have said all kinds of things about you over

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Speaker 1: for too many years now, Okay, So the fans were

426
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: going in and there's this real sleepy looking guy was

427
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: probably one of the rickets, you know, on a on

428
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: a coattail over there is had half cocked. You know, look,

429
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: I've been drinking all night. And I gave him the

430
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: box and he said, who's it from? And I said, um,

431
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: it's on the box and he looked and it's been

432
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: inspected USPS. So he's okay, I'll take care of it. Well,

433
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: you know was the next thing was they were and

434
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: they had my license plates. They had everything on me.

435
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: You know. In fact, one one year when I hung

436
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: head there, the cops asked me, how why are you

437
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: doing this? You know, there's more security here than the

438
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: White House because they had me a black way. Yeah,

439
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: there's cameras. There's there's cameras all over that place. Yeah,

440
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's like yeah, yeah, alright. So so

441
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: we've we've covered the goat heads. Now also, Doc, this

442
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: goes back. I want to say, late in the first

443
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: decade of the two thousand's, Michael Vick was a big story.

444
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, the star of the Atlanta Falcons. There was

445
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: a federal dog fighting me. He was the most popular

446
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: player in the NFL at the time, was on the

447
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: cover of the Madden video game. The guy was what

448
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: I always thought he was overrated as a player, but

449
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: he was. He was a very exciting, very popular player

450
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: on the highlight reels and all that. Back that was

451
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: in the days before the internet really blew up. And

452
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: so one of my favorite Doc Mike stories is you

453
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: traveled to Leavenworth, Kansas to have a meeting with Michael Vick,

454
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: and you called us up and you were our unpaid

455
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: corresponding calling this up from across from the federal prison,

456
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: the penitentiary there whatever you said obviously there in in. Uh, yeah,

457
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: you were. You were hanging out and you each day

458
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: you said you were there for several days, you went

459
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: in and put your name, You tried, you requested a

460
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: meeting with Michael Vick. And I remember you doing the

461
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: play by play on that doc. That was a fascinating

462
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: moment in show history. And uh, because I remember every

463
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: day there were little news nuggets coming out about Michael Vick.

464
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: But here we were an overnight show and I think

465
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: I was doing weekend overnights at that point. And you were,

466
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: you were, you were standing outside the prison day after day, Doc,

467
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: waiting for that meeting with Michael Vick. Well, the thing was,

468
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, I got the inside track from the guards

469
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: there that he wasn't in with the general population. Okay,

470
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: they put him in a clinic in a white uniform,

471
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: no stripes, and he was I don't know, empty and

472
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: trash cans or you know, Washington windows or something in there.

473
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: He wasn't with the general population. So he did. And

474
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: of course he's a pretty tough dude. He probably wouldn't

475
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: have gotten messed with anyway. You know, they probably wouldn't

476
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: been asking for autographs. But um, he had a life

477
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: Oreilly over there for his prison term. Yeah. Now when

478
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: you you had your little situation with the State of

479
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Illinois which led to your band. Oh cool, listen, Doc,

480
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: I can't I can't do the full retrospective on the

481
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: podcast here. We we had you on the radio show,

482
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: which we'll get you later. During the beginning of COVID

483
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: for a full we had the Doc Mike Power Hour,

484
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: which was very well received by the way, so hopefully

485
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: this podcast will will do well as well. But the

486
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: famous story go back to when we were on Overnight

487
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: in Chicago on the Score, which is a massive radio

488
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: station which booms all over the Middle part of America,

489
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: and it's the people got a complete education on steroids,

490
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah, because they liked steroids so much, and

491
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: there were there were doctors at the Bears that were

492
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: administering the steroids and they thought, well, you know, we

493
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: can't have this, you know, we gotta we gotta have

494
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about all that, but all I know,

495
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Doc is that you you were banned in part of

496
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: your punishment from the State of Illinois. Is you could

497
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: not call the radio show for how many years? Doc careers?

498
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: Two years? And uh? And then I remember, I've given

499
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: you my number, and I tell the story all the time.

500
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: I remember I gave you my phone number. Doctors. You

501
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: were very concerned about getting ahold of me when the

502
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: two years was up, and so I said, listen, Doc,

503
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: I never give out my number. This is a very

504
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: important thing. This is my phone number. Do not give

505
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: this out to anyone. And I said, call me when

506
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: the two years is up, and then that's it and

507
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: then we're good. And uh, you have called me, Doc

508
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: every week at least once a week since that. It

509
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: is an amazing Doc. You are a machine, my man,

510
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: a machine on the phone. Uh and uh, I get

511
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: the whole play by play as I don't really travel

512
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: that much anymore, Dock. You know, I'm pretty locked in

513
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: in the l A area here. But you know you're invited.

514
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: You're invited to Minnesota because Green Bay is not that

515
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: far from I know you've got relatives or in the

516
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: Green Bay area up there. Yeah, no, I do, I do.

517
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: And and the planted with through Minnesota. Well that was

518
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: very nice of Regina. No, we have a lot of

519
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: We do very well the show in Minnesota. That's one

520
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: of the great markets for the show. We do very

521
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: well on CA Fan. There's a lot of people that

522
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: are up really weird hours in the Twin Cities and

523
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: they enjoy the station. And we just happened to be

524
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: on the station. It's not really because of our show.

525
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Those that those guys want to have you. Wasn't that

526
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: uh some group in Kansas that was an affiliate or

527
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: something like that. Oh yeah, well, yeah, we'll get to that, Doc.

528
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: That was the Kansas City store. But the Minnesota thing

529
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: I I had planned before all these you know, shutdowns

530
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: and all that stuff that happened in at the beginning

531
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: of I was going to go to Minnesota. That was

532
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: my plan. We're gonna have just like we could all

533
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: met up there because Regina's you know, yeats, there's no doubt.

534
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: Well you know, I happily married man. But yeah, I

535
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: thought she's marrying you, Doc. I thought you and her

536
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: were an item there Regina and you, well, we got

537
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: we got sidetracked a little bit while I was up there.

538
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand. So anyway, that doctor plan is

539
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: my brother does live in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is part

540
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: of the Green Bank. Yeah. Yeah, So the plan was

541
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: actually to come to Chicago and then drive up through

542
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Wisconsin up to Appleton. It's not that you know, you

543
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: go to Connie's. Yeah, well of course and uh and

544
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: all that, and so then being in in Appleton, we

545
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: could cruise down to Minnesota and and find some restaurant

546
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: and hang out much like we did in Kansas City

547
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: back in the day, Doc, and do a listener meet

548
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: and greed I did one. Last one I did was

549
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: in Seattle. I've done done in Boston, Pittsburgh, Syracuse. Uh

550
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: from your guy from Seattle came to Chicago, Yeah? Which

551
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: oh the other yeah East from the Bay Area. Yeah yeah, yeah,

552
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: you met him, a big forty Niner fan, right, Yeah?

553
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: And you met another did you mean another? We have

554
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: another listeners in Chicago, the Chicago area that I think

555
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: either met you or wants to meet you. I don't

556
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: know if you met him or not, but it's probably

557
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: I want to be Yeah, I want to I want

558
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: to meet the dock. I want to meet the Doc. Now,

559
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you actually met my wife, Doc before she was my wife.

560
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: You in Kansas City. Yeah, and you scared the hell

561
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: out of her dock. I gotta tell you that. Yeah. Yeah.

562
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: So we we went the unveiling of the ben other

563
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: chicken fingers, which Doc drove down from Chicago to Kansas City.

564
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: What year was that. That had to be about ten

565
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: years ago. I think it was longer than that. Yeah,

566
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: I had my house. Yeah, it was a long time ago.

567
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: So we went to Kansas City and it was great

568
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: jeopardy al was there a lot of the big fans

569
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: at that time, big listeners in Kansas City. We had

570
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: a guy drive in from North Carolina. You came from Chicago.

571
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: It was great, and you set up shop, Doc, and

572
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: when you had your own table, you were signing. You

573
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: had T shirts. I felt so bad that you had

574
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: more stuff to give out than I had. I had nothing.

575
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I just had my my fat ass, as you would say.

576
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: I was there and you you were doing your thing,

577
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: and it was it was Doc signing autographs. You of

578
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: course did not I think we forced you to eat

579
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: like one bite of the chicken finger or something like that,

580
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: but you didn't want to. You want to know part

581
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: of that, Doc, because that's not I don't do anymore

582
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: fans fans No sodium chloride, Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so

583
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: after the after the appearance, we got done, and this

584
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: was in kind of a suburb in the Kansas City area,

585
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: but it was at night. By the time we got

586
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: done and we were finishing up, the restaurant was closing,

587
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: and we walked out, and I think we walked out

588
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: with you, and you had said I was with my

589
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: my my now wife. It was just my girlfriend, and

590
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: you said, hey, I got something for you. And so

591
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: it's a dark street in Kansas City, it's late at night,

592
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: and I don't really I don't even know Doc. I

593
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: don't really know Doc Mike other than from the fact

594
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: he called the show and at that point he'd been

595
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: a caller for maybe ten years or whatever it is,

596
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: or less than that. So Doc's like, hey, I got

597
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: something for you. And I'm standing there with my girlfriend

598
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: and tactos. He pulls out a a screwdriver. All right,

599
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: He's standing up with a screwdriver in a dark street

600
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and says, you wait till you see this.

601
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: He then proceeds to walk to the I think it

602
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: was the front of the car there and gets down

603
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: on his his hands his knees there and proceeds to

604
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: take off his license plate from the car and then

605
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: give it as a souvenir, which I still have. Doc,

606
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I haven't probably plate here and you that's not the

607
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: only I think You've sent me multiple license plates over

608
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: the years. But it was. It was a crazy scene, Doc,

609
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: because I still have that vision of you say hold on,

610
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: I've got something for you, and you're holding up You're

611
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: holding up a screwdriver on a on a dark street

612
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and I barely know you, and I'm like,

613
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go, Doc, Mike is going

614
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: to shank me on the street. But it turned out.

615
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: Of course, you were very kind. Doc. It was fun

616
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that you were there that night.

617
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: It was a great night and we had a lot

618
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: of fun meeting listeners and fans of the show and

619
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: telling stories. And I want to get back to doing that, Doc,

620
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: I gotta get to minnes I gotta get it's an atti. Also,

621
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: we got a lot of guys that are big fans

622
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: of the show in Cincinnati. That's that's something my to

623
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: do list, and so it just bounce around. But I've

624
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: done a few of those things in Boston, but Minnesota

625
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: at the top Okay, that's not a long drive for

626
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: me to Uh So I've got to accommodate. I've got

627
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: to accommodate, Doc, Mike schedules. What you're saying, I got

628
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: to accommodate the doc is what I've gotta do. And

629
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: try to try to get there in the summer too,

630
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: so i can play some golf, because there's a beautiful

631
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: golf course not too far from where Regia lives. So

632
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I've never I've never spent much time. I've only been

633
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: to the airport in Minnesota, like I've never I've changed

634
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: flights in Minnesota. I've had layovers in Minnesota, but I've

635
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: never actually gone out and say, it looks beautiful from

636
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: the plane. It's just lakes everywhere, beautiful lakes and green lakes.

637
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Ten thousand lakes right there. There's actually more than there's

638
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: actually more than ten thousand. They just stopped counting at

639
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: ten thousand, Doc, because people love, as you know, they

640
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: love round numbers. So it's, uh, it's it's very important.

641
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: They're very important. And you and Regina, Now this is

642
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: a this is a thing here right there's gonna be

643
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: on the show here. This is something that might actually happen. Huh, Doc, Absolutely, yeah. Um,

644
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: I've been traveling, so it's difficult for me to uh,

645
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, get on the show. But um yeah, we're

646
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: get this little triangle going you as the preacher and

647
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: into Minnesota, Chicago, and back to l A. Be sure

648
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays

649
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Okay, I love it,

650
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: by the way, I have it right in front of me.

651
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: I looked it up, Doc. The the state of Minnesota

652
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: has eleven thousand, eight hundred forty two lakes of ten

653
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: acres or more, but they stopped they say the land

654
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: of ten thousand lakes because it's better for marketing. Did

655
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, though, Doc, that your your your brothers state there.

656
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: You live in Illinois. Up in Wisconsin, they actually have

657
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand and seventy four lakes in Wisconsin, so they

658
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: actually have more lakes, and wisconstantly doing Minnesota. But Minnesota,

659
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: from a marketing standpoint, a much better marketing plan because

660
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: they put that on the license plates and and everything else.

661
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a good job and that by that,

662
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: and you love this golf dot Doc, I mean I

663
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: don't remember your golfing back in the day. When did

664
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: you pick up the golfing? Have you always been a golfer?

665
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Did I not know that part of your life? Doc Mike?

666
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: It seems like more recently. You know, when I was

667
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: working back in the day, I was working at the bank.

668
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I was a vice president of a bank, and they

669
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: said you got to belong to a country club. Well,

670
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: I had given up golf when I was about fourteen.

671
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: My dad took my brother, two brothers, and I golfing.

672
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: He was a real good golfer and we let about

673
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: two fourthsomes through us. You know, we're all hitting the

674
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: ball about sixty eight feet each time we had tried

675
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: to hit the ball. And that's when I gave up golf.

676
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: I was a ten letterman in high school, wrestling, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, gymnastics, everything,

677
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: and that was my thing. It still is. I still

678
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: trained arm wrestlers. So I gave up golf. And then

679
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: I when I got to this bank in my banking career,

680
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: they told me you got to belong to a country club.

681
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: And they two of the directors were members there, so

682
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: they pushed me right to the top of the membership list,

683
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: no waiting, and I started golfing, and uh, it's an

684
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: addictive sport. I've had a hole in one, I've won tournaments.

685
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: I taught my first and second wives how to golf.

686
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: My second wife was a tournament player when she got

687
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: done with it. Never picked up a golf club before.

688
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: We've know. Yeah, see my my relationship, doctor, my relationship

689
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: with golf. I I wish I was more into it

690
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: because a lot lot of business deals. As you reference,

691
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: you got into golf because of work. But a lot

692
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: of business deals are done on the golf course. And

693
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: but I'm a nocturnal person. I'm up all night doing

694
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: the radio show, and so I golf is a daytime things.

695
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: You can't really play golf at night, Doc, you gotta

696
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: be up early in the morning. You don't sleep much though, right,

697
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: how many hours of night do you sleep? What are

698
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: you talking about? There's blind people that play golf. No.

699
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: I I understand you can beat the ball, But I'm

700
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: saying golf courses, like you know, there's a lot I

701
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: live in l A. There's a lot of golf courses

702
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: in l A. But they're not open it. What manny,

703
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: you come to Chicago. We got a golf course over

704
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: here that's lit at night. It's the Ninth Hole course.

705
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: It's like a part three and it's a beautiful range.

706
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: Three decks for hitting balls and a grass range. Also,

707
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: I go there often. Okay, yeah, we can play you

708
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: at night before all right, Well we'll play right now,

709
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: have you there's a place in Vegas. You don't go

710
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: to Vegas much though, right Vegas has the they have

711
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: that I got better use for what little money I have. Yeah, well, no,

712
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have the gamble you can get.

713
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: The Vegas used to be cheap. It's not cheap anymore. Though.

714
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: The food Vegas used to be cheap. They wanted you

715
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: to spend your money gambling. Now that they have like

716
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: expensive restaurants and stuff, and it's not You don't get

717
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: a lot of ball, well, a lot of a lot

718
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: of women, Doc, there's a lot of beautiful women. But

719
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: what what happens in Vegas days? In Vegas? Yeah, unless

720
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: unless you're an NFL player and commit a terrible crime,

721
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: then it does not stay. It does not stay in

722
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. It might get on whatever you call those

723
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: h the cameras, you know, Yeah, well you don't have

724
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: a smartphone. You've lived, You've lived. I know you're getting

725
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: you're getting up there in age now, Doc, But you've

726
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: never been a smartphone guy. In fact, you you have

727
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: a cell phone, but it's not it's a dumb phone,

728
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: not a smartphone. Right. I never will getting back to

729
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: that golf. You know, when I got into that country

730
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: club and we we uh, we're putting a bank back

731
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: on its feet. There was some um, some illegal loans

732
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: they made and so on, and uh, the marketing team

733
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: myself as a marketing VP, and new president, loan officer,

734
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: car car guy, and and some data people and together

735
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: we put fifty six million dollars in that bank in

736
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: six years. Wow, it's a lot of And at the

737
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: end there I belonged to two country clubs I had.

738
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: I had the addiction of golf. And you can talk

739
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: to any of your Irish friends over there, how addictive

740
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: golf is. I mean, you just you gotta have it.

741
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: It's uh, well, I like, I like occasionally I'll go

742
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: to the driving range and just let off some steam

743
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: and hit some balls and things like that. But it is.

744
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: If you're bad, Doc, if you're bad at golf, it's

745
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: very frustrating. It's not it's not enjoyable to spend three

746
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: hours chasing balls into sand traps and losing them in water.

747
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: But take up and take a breath. Okay, Craft, it's

748
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: the practice game percent practice and play, and then you

749
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: really enjoy the game. Did you just tell me to

750
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: take a breath of my own podcast? How dare you? Doc? There? You?

751
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe you started running off over there about

752
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: the dead, you know when you when you I really

753
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: liked the time after you give your the ten or

754
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes that start the monologue, the maar monololo. Yeah,

755
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: then you say okay, and then we'll take our phone calls. Okay,

756
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: well your phone calls are for Ben. You know you

757
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: you started running over your callers. When I had my

758
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 1: radio show, it was caller driven. That's all we had

759
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: was callers, and I listened to these people, you know,

760
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: they had their medical problems. That's what it was, you know,

761
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: wake up Well show. Yeah, No, I remember, Doc, I

762
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: remember the radio show. But here's the thing. They want

763
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: everything in modern ration, Doc, it's it's a monologue here,

764
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: it's a segment with calls. Here, it's you know, a

765
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: segment with Yeah, what do you call it? And there

766
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: is there is one second air. Well. The key thing, Doc,

767
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: as you know from being in your your radio show,

768
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: the key thing is to keep the VU meter moving

769
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: because if somebody tunes in and here's dead air, they

770
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: move on to the next They're like, Okay, I'm gonna

771
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: go find something else listening. Okay, what don't I forgive

772
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: you for getting piste off that I'm asking you to

773
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: take a breath? No, No, it's I enjoy it. Doc,

774
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: It's a drop on the show. You're part of a

775
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: lot of sound bites that are gonna be played forever

776
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: and ever on the radio show as long as I'm

777
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: doing it. Anyway, So what happened? Not? Doc? Hold you

778
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: take a breath? All right? So Doc, we were doing this.

779
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: You know, this podcast is on a Friday. Here, it's

780
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of getting towards mid December. Now, usually by this point, Doc,

781
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: Mike is in Ecuador. You are gone. You are out

782
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: of the country. I thought you were going to Ecuador. Doc,

783
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: are you not going? Did you have a change in

784
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: travel plans? Did your itinerary change? I took a bath

785
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: on the plane ticket It was about five dollars. They

786
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: wanted a twenty four hour nose test. I couldn't get

787
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: that guaranteed here in Chicago, so I canceled the flight.

788
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: And then I found out that Biden passed a regulation

789
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: that if you're not vaccinated and you're coming back to

790
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: the States, that you have to have a vaccination to

791
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: get back in. So there's that was the end of it.

792
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm not getting vaccinated at all. The people are dying

793
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: from this thing, and so you would have been banned, Doc,

794
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: you would have if if if you had left, and

795
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: then you would not figured you know, you didn't know

796
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: that President Biden had done that. You would have been

797
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: banned from the United States for banned from calling the

798
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: radio show. Doctor. You would have been an ex pat.

799
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: You would have had to live the rest of your

800
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: life in Ecuador, which one you say is not that.

801
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: But you seem to enjoy Equador quite a bit. Doc,

802
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: You're a big fan. The women down there are absolutely gorgeous,

803
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, especially in the mountains. You know, that's

804
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: where my clinic is. And listen to this. The clinic

805
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: that I was using all the six years I was

806
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: in the Andes there, it was taken over by a

807
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: like a child clinic if some They had some therapists

808
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: there and they were working with children. So they completely

809
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: reoutfited a new clinic for me this year and they're

810
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: not gonna You're not gonna be there. There must be

811
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: devastated people. And the mayor contacted the nonprofit that I

812
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: worked with and told them all about it. You know

813
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: how we're waiting for Doc Mike to come back because

814
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: I've treated thousands of people in the ten years that

815
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: I went to Ecuador. I was five years on the

816
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: coast and then six years or five years in the

817
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: in the mountains, and you're wonderful people. It's third World.

818
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: A lot of people are medicated. We get them off

819
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: their drugs there there sugar haulics. We had got them

820
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: off their sugars um. I worked with a lot of

821
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: children there that had birth defects, and it was just

822
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: gave me so much joy to see the recoveries of

823
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: these poor people down there. It's nothing like the United States.

824
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: And the people are in tremendous shape because nobody has

825
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: a car. They're walking everywhere. You see women with two

826
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: or three children on the side of the road walking

827
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: miles to go shopping. And then walking back with the kids. Yeah,

828
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: you know, well, Doc, you should get You should get

829
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: rid of your car and walk from New Mexico to California.

830
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: You should. That's why that guy that's running, Yeah, that's

831
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: that's that could be you, Doc. You just give up

832
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: the DOC mobile and you're you're on your way. All right. Listen,

833
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: I've kept you long enough, Doc, you must get on

834
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: with your travels. I thank you for doing this. I

835
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and to it, I appreciate you. Know. This

836
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: is probably one of the longest times I've talked. In fact,

837
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: it is probably just went forty five minutes because when

838
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: you were in the syndicated into Chicago was max about

839
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: a half an hour reading off adverse reactions. Yeah, well,

840
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: we have a lot of commercials if we have commercials

841
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: on this podcast, Doc, So we have that, but it's

842
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: a much different format. But we've we've gone straight through

843
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: so you didn't have to hear any of the commercial

844
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: stock you had. You had a commercial free experience on

845
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: the podcast. And I can't wait till the day that

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Speaker 1: I can get you married to Regina a nice radio wedding.

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Speaker 1: You got the form. Iilled it all out for you

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Speaker 1: with the names. I look forward to completing that. We

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Speaker 1: need to make it a big event though, Doc, we

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Speaker 1: have to. I had to a lot some time. I

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Speaker 1: have to make sure that I don't want to nickel

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Speaker 1: the first wedding I will have ever done, and on

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Speaker 1: the radio, so we need to make sure that everything

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Speaker 1: is all kosher and all that stuff. So anyway, all right, Doc,

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Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. We'll catch you on the radio. Thanks. Doc,