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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have a

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Speaker 1: very special treat for you all. Pun intended. Terry J. Vaughn, actress, director, producer.

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Speaker 1: Terry J. Vaughn's in the building. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming. I was extremely and I told you off camera,

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Speaker 1: extremely excited to have you on today. I've watched you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we family, Like I've watched you so much.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I know people probably come up to you and say, hey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like we're family, and I don't mind that.

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Speaker 1: You don't mind it, Okay for all our listeners, you

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Speaker 1: don't mind. Yeah, let me eat my mail and come over.

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Speaker 1: But what will you be having us eat today?

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Speaker 2: I Am going to make us some fish tacos.

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Speaker 1: Fish tacos.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so very excited, very exciting, favorite thing to do.

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Speaker 2: I love Mexican food, so I love I'm a taco fanatic.

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Speaker 1: Really are you based out of Are you from California?

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm from the Bay Area, from San Francisco. Okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Whenever someone says they love Mexican food, I'm like that. California.

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Speaker 1: It is a California thing.

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Speaker 2: It is, it is.

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Speaker 1: I have some great news for all the listeners. We've

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Speaker 1: never had fish tacos on the show. Okay, we've taped

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty episodes, so that's amazing and

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Speaker 1: it's affordable. But what will be going into your dish?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've never had homemade fish tacos?

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Speaker 2: Oh really?

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're in for a tree not Judge Hard. I'm

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Speaker 1: like that, who's that white guy that he's the chef,

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Speaker 1: that he's really mean? I forgot his name.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't watch cook you don't want to cook it

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Speaker 1: though you want a cook It show except for yours. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's great, all right. Tell me what the ingredients are

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Speaker 1: for your fish tacos.

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Speaker 2: Okay, for my fish tacos, we're gonna use tilapia fish.

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Speaker 2: I like corntertias because I do a little crunch on

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Speaker 2: my tacos. And we have avocados, onions, jalapeno, garlic, tomatoes,

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Speaker 2: and lime in cilantro.

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Speaker 1: Nope, but you got it all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like it all fresh, okay.

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Speaker 1: And we did it fresh because I like to sneak

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Speaker 1: in the two garlic and I was like man when

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Speaker 1: they put a real garlic what's official? And then you

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Speaker 1: have a sauce.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I love taco sauce and I like the green.

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Speaker 1: Verdet sauce day sauce.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to my Meda glasses. What is Verdet sauce?

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Speaker 1: Show me picture? Yes, okay, so get in the kitchen woman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I cook?

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Speaker 1: Now you cook, you cook. It's so weird because you're

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Speaker 1: taking a busy time out of your schedule. We have

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Speaker 1: this beautiful resume and then you're cooking for me a

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Speaker 1: broke dish, that's right, yes, yes, And I didn't know

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Speaker 1: if you needed that extra. I don't really know how

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Speaker 1: to make tortillas for real, So.

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Speaker 2: Well, did you know? This is a shame? Come on,

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Speaker 2: you need to learn.

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Speaker 1: I'm a New York native. New York. You don't eat

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Speaker 1: Mexican over there, not really. Some people do, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a big We're like a Chinese pizza

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Speaker 2: And I do love Chinese food. Chinese food is big,

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Speaker 2: not in LA in the Bay Area, really, I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: In San Francisco, yes, we have a huge Chinese population.

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Speaker 2: One of the best chinatowns in the.

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Speaker 1: World what And I love Chinese. I need to go

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so we Chinese food and Mexican food are

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Speaker 2: huge in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: And then, just so you all listeners know, she did

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Speaker 1: use avocado oil, and I gotta know why.

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Speaker 2: I just try to eat as healthy as possible, and

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: That's why you look good.

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Speaker 2: I try, so I'll be honest. So I know we're

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Speaker 2: making the broke dish like something I ate, but I

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Speaker 2: did not use avocado oil. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was growing up and I was assuming you didn't

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Speaker 1: always have avocados either.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't always, So this is an upgraded broke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. I appreciate the treat because sometimes people

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Speaker 1: really make me relive for real. Okay, so you're putting

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Speaker 1: the tilapia in the pan and avocado oil. I saw

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Speaker 1: you did both sides. By the way, we did play

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Speaker 1: with some of your seasonings. You should tell the guests

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Speaker 1: what seasonings you have.

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Speaker 2: So I like to put a little garlic, even though

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Speaker 2: I'm using fresh garlic. You know what, I don't need

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Speaker 2: to do both.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to do the both garlic powder.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to use the fresh garl like

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Speaker 2: pepper salt, of course, and then Cooman mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: I always wonder what people use cooming for.

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Speaker 2: It's Mexican food.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what I make for me.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing I use it for. When I'm

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Speaker 2: making my tacos or if I'm making guacamole.

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Speaker 1: I use Cuman. And really, is it Cooman or Cuman?

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Speaker 1: It's Cooman Cooman? Okay, you know what? It wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the studio. I went home and I was like, I know,

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Speaker 1: I haven't in my yeah, but I even understand why

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Speaker 1: I have it in my cabinet. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: must have taken it from point eating while broke or something.

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Speaker 1: And then you used to whole Himmalayan salt.

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Speaker 2: I love it again that this is your upgrade. This

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Speaker 2: is a part of the upgrade. It was just regular

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Speaker 2: ass white sauce salt, Morton.

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Speaker 1: And why do you feel like this salt is better?

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Speaker 1: Is it healthier?

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Speaker 2: It's healthier. It's not well processed. Okay, so you see

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Speaker 2: it's still and you guys got the good kind too,

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Speaker 2: because it's still in the big crystal flakes and we

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that when you go, if we were to

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Speaker 1: go in your house, would your pepper be the pepper grind?

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Speaker 1: We have it back there by the way, And they

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Speaker 1: played a tad of this because you we didn't get

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Speaker 1: the sodium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys got the one with a lot of sodium.

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Speaker 2: And the whole point is we're trying to be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more healthy, isn't it right? Aren't we?

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Speaker 1: I really need to lose a lot of weight. So yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is gonna let this fry a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's a heat. I'm just gonna say I do not

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Speaker 1: But everyone on this show, i'd say, like nine hate election.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's terrible. So hopefully the dish comes out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you're cooking those up, and then what

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna know the tartilla? I am also going

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Speaker 2: to just do a little I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: call it fried because it's not like really fried, but

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Speaker 2: I am gonna I guess it's fried. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: put more avocado oil on this pain. Then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: put the tortilla on and I'm gonna fry it up

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Speaker 2: a little bit because I like my shells crunching.

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Speaker 1: Now, is there a way to get the whole shell

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Speaker 2: Listen, if you fry it hard, it'll be very crunchy.

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Speaker 1: So I watch you do it. I love crunching. I

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Speaker 1: love crunching. Matter of fact, back in the day, when

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Speaker 1: Chipotle first came out, I would always get the bowls,

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Speaker 1: and then I discovered they had the taco shells, the

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Speaker 1: hard shells. You will never catch me in Chippole without

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Speaker 2: But you know what, and I get so in the

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Speaker 2: have the taco shells that are already in the box.

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Speaker 1: I still use some. Okay, are you mad at me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So that guys see how she looks in real life.

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Speaker 1: She looks exactly how she looks on TV.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: And the crazy part is we've been watching her all

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Speaker 1: for a very long time, so just imagine seeing her

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Speaker 1: in person. It's crazy how beautiful you are.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now that my fans know that they should

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Speaker 1: be googling you and looking at you, and you have

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Speaker 1: Instagram too, we can keep it you I do.

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Speaker 2: Everything is under Terry Jbond.

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Speaker 1: Terry Jbon. You know, like when I say the JA,

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Speaker 1: I do like.

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Speaker 2: I don't like when people forget my jay.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I don't good because I like saying it's

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Speaker 1: Terry J.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Isn't it cooler? Yeah? And I've always gone by it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's my middle name starts with a J.

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's very in a.

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Speaker 2: Million years, you cannot guess when my middle name. Man,

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Speaker 2: it starts with the J. Obviously, but everything you say

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Speaker 1: I bet I'm gonna go with jam jam Jam s jam.

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Speaker 1: What is the J stand for? Are you gonna tell us?

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Speaker 2: I will? I just wanted to at least take jam jelly. No,

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Speaker 2: why are you saying weird?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to think of what name is giving

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Speaker 1: a J Jackson girl? Wait, I got excited.

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Speaker 2: People say like Jeanett or jan answer they say regular regular.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure it's gonna be a bomb name.

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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily it isn't. I love my middle name,

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Speaker 2: but will give us a hand? Just want okay? The

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Speaker 2: J is silent.

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Speaker 1: One?

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Speaker 2: Keep going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna get that right from the jump.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking that from the jump. Does anyone ever

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Speaker 2: Ever?

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Speaker 1: But does anyone ever guess one in the beginning? No,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like the first.

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Speaker 2: I gave you about a thousand hens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but if you give someone the silent jh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the silent J gives it away.

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Speaker 1: Okay, J that's nice. Cherry Juanita, Ye, Terry, okay, Terry,

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Speaker 1: take me back to what was going on now with

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Speaker 1: the elevated fish tacos? What was going on with the

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Speaker 1: broke of fish tacos?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, yes, this is elevated because when I was

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Speaker 2: growing up, like I said, we love Mexican food in

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Speaker 2: my house, and so we would make tacos really out

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Speaker 2: of all kinds of stuff. So on a normal day

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Speaker 2: it was just the ground beast, regular kind of tacos.

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Speaker 2: But I don't eat meat anymore. I only eat fish fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you chicken, Nope.

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Speaker 1: No, we're slowly learning her beauty tips right here.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I gave it up. I just felt, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I feel like our country doesn't take good care of

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Speaker 2: how they get our meat. So that's what it. This

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Speaker 2: is gonna sound so weird, I literally because I used

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Speaker 2: to eat bacon back then. We would make bacon tacos. Really,

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Speaker 2: that's some ghetto ship. Yeah, that's ghetto.

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Speaker 1: You really love tacos? Really, really you would make it?

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Speaker 1: Did you have like breakfast tacos reastc eggs? Okay? You

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Speaker 1: just like the shell?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever approach about it or you just kept

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Speaker 1: I love you, Yes, I was not expecting that.

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Speaker 2: Just telling on myself. I don't know why you make me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the boys liked you a lot, did you?

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Speaker 2: No, not really. My dad suffered from alcoholism and for

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Speaker 2: but I do remember a couple of times. There were

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Speaker 1: Oh, you real cook, you real cook. You see how

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't know how these fish tackles

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Speaker 2: I like to do that, okay, because it were mine.

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Speaker 2: It's like eating like the ground beef, but it's ground turkey.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't twelve. And so we're calling my mom. We're crying, like, Mom,

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Speaker 2: we don't want to stay, we want to come home.

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Speaker 1: So does he catch wind of it? Does she tell him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? My grandmother at the time, she was on her

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Speaker 2: Drive them to Texas and they'll be with my mom

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Speaker 1: With her on his side of the family. No, on

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Speaker 1: your mom's side, yes, okay, okay, my mother's mom. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So he agrees. So I remember driving, riding in the car.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it. I'm all in it.

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Speaker 2: So we're driving. So I fall asleep and I wake

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Speaker 1: Oh heck no, this is a terrible shit.

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Speaker 2: And so I look at him and I see that

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Speaker 2: that's all I can remember from it. But we got

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Speaker 1: Wow again. I was gonna ask you if at some

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Speaker 2: So? Yeah, you only remember the traumatic shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that's pretty traumatic though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty traumatic.

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Speaker 1: Did you tell your mom on him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And what she say?

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Speaker 2: She was pissed, She was pissed, pissed. I was just

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Speaker 1: So after that, did you ever request to see him again?

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Speaker 2: As we got older and just started learning more about

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Speaker 2: as well, do you become a little bit more forgiving?

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Speaker 1: So you guys were close with his side.

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Speaker 2: No, not really because we didn't grow up with her.

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Speaker 1: So how did you hear his stories and all that?

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Speaker 2: So the funny thing is, so my father is from LA.

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Speaker 2: I got all the stories. Okay, okay, that's how I

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Speaker 1: Your food looks really good. It looks official, It looks

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Speaker 1: and the tackles look good too. You're gonna make a lot.

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Speaker 1: I eat a lot.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a lot, but I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm a real eater. Okay, all right, girl, go for it.

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Speaker 1: Go for it. So fast forward to you're starting to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I so I went to college in the

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Speaker 1: Don't I love it? Oh, I see how you've been

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Speaker 1: in them. Okay, Okay, don't bring yourself. Geez, do you

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Speaker 1: need a utensil? You need an INTENSI I'm terrible. She

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Speaker 2: Oh good?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope they taste good. That's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: How much I'm gonna judge you really, and I want

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Speaker 1: you to.

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Speaker 2: Be honest, Be honest girl. So yeah, so I was

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Speaker 1: I just want I hope you make more. I hope

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Speaker 1: you don't too much time on these little curved tackles. Please,

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Speaker 2: You gotta bend it. You gotta flip it over and

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Speaker 2: just be quiet and calm down. I'm fixing it. There

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Speaker 1: I don't know this, This moment with you feels really special.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I watched you on

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Okay. So yeah, I was so a business school.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be a bus So I started taking all

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Speaker 1: Oh they're flipping right back, It's okay.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't like it. I didn't like the classes

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Speaker 2: changed it to Liberal Arts because I heard that I

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Speaker 2: feels good to me. I want to do that, man.

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00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: And so I got an internship at this advertising agency

443
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: and one of my class projects was to interview the

444
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: people in the company. And it was with Gray Advertising,

445
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: when the biggest advertising agencies based in San Francisco. And

446
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 2: when I did the interview, everybody, Mama, I mean oh

447
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: I did with garlic and anyase more garlic tastes hilarious.

448
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: Everybody I interviewed at the company had come from theater

449
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: or something artistic like that, like they used to be

450
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: an actor in theater or something in theater. And I

451
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: just thought it was so weird. I'm like, this whole

452
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: advertising agency is full of people that used to be

453
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Speaker 2: in theater. And I just thought it was interesting. Fast forward,

454
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: returning the shills off.

455
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: And this is your first job in advertising, you're realizing this.

456
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, So it was an internship and everybody

457
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: was talking about how they took theater and fast forwards.

458
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: I would have never thought that either, me either.

459
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 2: I was very surprised. Fast forward to my fifth year

460
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: in college now and a friend was recruiting girls for

461
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 2: a Miss Black California pageant. So weird, so random, and

462
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: so me and some of my girlfriends we were like, Okay, yeah,

463
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: we'll do the pageant. So what do you do? What's

464
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 2: the thing? What do you do for a beauty pageant?

465
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: Because I was just not that girl, and so we

466
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 2: were like, okay, we'll do it. And we did the pageant.

467
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm concentrating here.

468
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to talk, it is, but your

469
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: stories are very captivating. So eight, come on, go back

470
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Speaker 1: to the story.

471
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Speaker 2: Okay, I still feel like it needs more.

472
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Wait, what did they say you needed to do for

473
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: the talent part?

474
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: So we had to wear a bathing suit, we had

475
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: to wear a gown, and we had to do a

476
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: talent part. So I was like, what the fuck am

477
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: I going to do for her? Talent. I don't know

478
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 2: what to do. And so me and my mom and

479
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: my aunt we came up with this idea for me

480
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: to recite a poem from a play, and so I

481
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: recited a poem from a play called for Colored Girls

482
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Speaker 2: who considered to a side when the rainbow is enough?

483
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Speaker 1: And one of the poems I know, does it dark? Wait,

484
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: consider suicide? Wait say it again? For Colored girls who

485
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Speaker 1: can commit.

486
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: Consider suicide when the rainbow is enough? Geez, but it was.

487
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: It's a very powerful play. They actually did a movie

488
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: off of it too. It's very powerful play. So anyway,

489
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: so I took one of the monologues from the play

490
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: and I performed it. And one of the judges in

491
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: the pageant was a producer of a play that was

492
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: getting the casting and getting ready to tour the country,

493
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: and he asked me if I would be interested in

494
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: auditioning for his play. And I was like, what do

495
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: you do for an audition in the play? What is that?

496
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: And so he gave me all the information, told me

497
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: to bring a picture and a resume show up at

498
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: the theater, which was the Black Repertory Theater in Berkeley, California.

499
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: And I was like Okay, a picture and a resume,

500
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: all right, I got it. I'll do it just random.

501
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: My life is full of random stuff. I love it,

502
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: really love it, really I love it.

503
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Speaker 1: By the way, for all your listeners, she added lime

504
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: to the pot, and she added the red as sausa. Yeah,

505
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: so she still got to make a lot more taco though.

506
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: She's crazy. Okay, I want I want you to taste it.

507
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: I want you to taste I know if it is anything.

508
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: In it, it's anything like this store where it's gonna

509
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: be good.

510
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: Salt or pepper or something.

511
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Don't change anything. Perfect okay, yeah, really good?

512
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, really good.

513
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: And it's not dry, guys, Oh good?

514
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: Because yeah, and I should turn it off so it

515
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: doesn't get dry.

516
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: That's why you're adding the water and the sauces and

517
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: all that.

518
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I like it to feel most.

519
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, I was scared it was going

520
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: to be dry, but not at all. That's why you water.

521
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is yours you want, I'll make yours first.

522
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: You better make way more tackles. We ain't on diet

523
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: eating while.

524
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 2: Broka, you want me to keep making the showy. So

525
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: this was yours. I was making it.

526
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: We'll just switch plates. This looks really good. Miss a

527
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: little messy, and then why do I feel so comfortable

528
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: with you?

529
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: Alvocado?

530
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to do it. How you would do

531
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: it the elevated version?

532
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we definitely did not have bitch tacos.

533
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: This is so good looking. We shouldn't when they have

534
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: the cameras, the picture when you take a picture of

535
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: your food, I feel like we should.

536
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: I should have done that.

537
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: Well we should. We can see technically do it with

538
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: these tacos.

539
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Okay, you want something, any extra stuff because this I.

540
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Want to do tomato here, I'll do the about your.

541
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh yeah. So I go to the Black

542
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: Repertory Theater. I show up with a picture and a resume.

543
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: So again, I don't know anything about about acting as

544
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: a career or anything like that at this point. So

545
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: I show up with a regular working resume. I haven't

546
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: marry out hotel and this rent a car.

547
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I would have done the same time.

548
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. He said bring a picture in

549
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: a resume, So I brought my picture in my resume

550
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: and the picture and a picture, So it was this

551
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: is I'm totally aging myself. Look guys, I'm totally aging myself.

552
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: I brought a polaroid picture that I had my college

553
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: roommate take of me the night before.

554
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you are real green.

555
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: So I showed up with my working resume and my

556
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: little polaroy picture, and I walk into the into the

557
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: theater and it's full of real actors. And if you

558
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: know anything about San Francisco, in the whole Bay area Berkeley,

559
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: it's very artsy, it's a very artsy town. So these

560
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: were like real thesbian and I walk in and they

561
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: are like doing all these weird theater exercises, like with

562
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: their voice there stretching, They're moaning me all the just

563
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: weird shit. I was like, this is weird. They are weird.

564
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna sit in the corner and wait for

565
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: them to call my name.

566
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: At this point, did you see what other people's pictures

567
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: in what they saw all.

568
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: The big eight by tens, they were black and white

569
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: eight by tens. Back then, I was like whatever. I

570
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: didn't have a way to feel because I didn't know shit,

571
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: and I've been doing a lot of dropping curse words.

572
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: You literally only curse twice because me sit down, Terrace

573
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: sit down. Okay, let's try this while we hot. Okay,

574
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm excited to eat this, guys, because it looks really delicious.

575
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Hey, I hope it tastes good.

576
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: I want to Cilantro. I just want to be like

577
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: you right now. I want to experience it. Okay, Okay,

578
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you buy first.

579
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 2: I'm scared.

580
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: You know you ain't got to be scared. You know

581
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: you make this.

582
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: It's good.

583
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: That's way better than any restaurant. You're sure you want

584
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: to go to the restaurant. The dish, Yo, it's juicy,

585
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: it's really good. That crunch. We're on a tight tom crunch.

586
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: But you're gonna make more of these before you leave.

587
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: I got you.

588
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: This is a plus one of my favorite top three

589
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: dishes on this show.

590
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: Yay, yay. Oh all right, let me finish my story.

591
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: Wait, even without all the jobbings, I know, it's just

592
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: you murdered that fish. You annihilated the fish tacco.

593
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: It's so good.

594
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: No one makes a fish taco this juicy and flavorform.

595
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: You can't get it to no Mexican restaurant. No, no,

596
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: you better make moreities at home, girl. Okay, So get

597
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: back to this story. Yes, you are auditioning for this

598
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: play and yes.

599
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: So I walk into the Black Repertory Theater. I see

600
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: all these real actors in there, and they're doing all

601
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: these theatrical exercises warming up for their big audition. Their

602
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: nat it was crazy, all kinds of stuff, and I

603
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, these people are weird. I'm just gonna

604
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: sit over in the corner and wait for them to

605
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: call my name. I'm sitting on a corner with my

606
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: little working resume and my little polaroid picture and and

607
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: they finally call my name and I go in. I

608
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: meet the director. His name is Paul Roach, and I

609
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: meet the playwright who I'll say who the playwright is

610
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: and it in because you guys might know of him.

611
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: And so they give me some material.

612
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, you like leaving these little cliffhangers going.

613
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: They give you the material, you read it.

614
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: Oh, they give me the material. So I read it

615
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: with the director and then he gives me a note.

616
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: He's okay, that was good, but this character, she's really sassy.

617
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: She has a lot of spice, and can you read

618
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: it again and give me some of that? And I

619
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: was like absolutely, so basically, you just want me to

620
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 2: be myself if I used to get in trouble all

621
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: the time for being too sassy, get popped in the mouth.

622
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, so I'll just be myself. So

623
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: I read it again, did the audition and they were

624
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: like okay, great, And so I go home that night

625
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: and they call me and they offer me apart in

626
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: this play to tour the country. And it was David E.

627
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: Talbert's very first play. Wow Talbert is one maker now wow.

628
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was his very first play. And I

629
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: toured with that play. It's called telling It like It

630
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: TI is Okay. I toured with that play for two years,

631
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: off and on and the Beauty and what changed my

632
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: life forever was Paul Roach, our director. He was a

633
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: very astute Thesbian had studied at act in San Francisco,

634
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: so he was a very well respected theater director and

635
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: he traveled with us the whole time and was training

636
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: us in the art of acting. He introduced me to

637
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: all the greats that I just started studying about acting

638
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: in theater, ud Hoggins, Demislowski, check Off, and I just

639
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: fell in love with it. I fell in love with

640
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: the craft. I fell in love with all the theater

641
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: exercises that I was laughing at all the other people.

642
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: So now I'm doing all these Oh.

643
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that was good. I wanted to know. So

644
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: you do do those now, so now make it all

645
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: makes sense to you.

646
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: It all makes sense. It all makes sense. And that

647
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: just changed my life forever. So I always tell people that,

648
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: oh my career to Paul Roach.

649
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Wow, so what did your mom say when you booked

650
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: this tour?

651
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? So when they called me that night, the first

652
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: thing I did was I was like, okay, I'll call

653
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: you back. I was like, Mom, these people are offering

654
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: me this role to travel with a play and we're

655
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: going to travel around the country and they take care

656
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: of all of it, and they're going to pay me

657
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars a week.

658
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh snap, I was like.

659
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, can I go? Should I go?

660
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: And she was like absolutely. She was like, when is

661
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: this ever going to happen in your lifetime?

662
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

663
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, to get an offer like this, to travel the

664
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: country to perform on stage.

665
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: And how old are you at this time?

666
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: Land At this time, I'm twenty oh.

667
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Girl, Yes go mom for that shut out of support.

668
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you were excited about it too.

669
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: I was, Are you changed my mouth? Yes? Again, I

670
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: had never done anything like that ever, And so we started.

671
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: We went into rehearsals, and that's how I learned the craft.

672
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: Was there any part of it that was like a

673
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: little rigorous where you wanted to quit at all? Or

674
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: was it all?

675
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: It is very rigorous, But I was so in my

676
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: element and felt so excited and connected to this new

677
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: thing that I have found acting.

678
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Did you have to drop out of college to do?

679
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

680
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you was like peace.

681
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: That's why I had to ask my mom. Okay, but yeah,

682
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: but it changed the whole trajectory of my life.

683
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: So after are you getting interior at up in the house? Snap?

684
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: Okay?

685
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you after the tour ends? Huh?

686
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: What's it like?

687
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: So the tour. When the tour ended, it was a

688
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: group of us. We decided we were going to move

689
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: to la and pursue acting.

690
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Are you made friends too?

691
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

692
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Were any of the people from the audition room? Do

693
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: you remember any of them? And then they made it?

694
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Kalita Smith a so a known actress. She was it

695
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: was her first start too.

696
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: So we were all from the Bay Area, and we

697
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: all moved to LA after the show went down and

698
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: just started pursuing it as a.

699
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Career with a real picture.

700
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I got a real black and white by tea

701
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: and glossy. This is like so old, so you know

702
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: you We would mail our phus to different agencies and stuff,

703
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: trying to get agents. Again. Was always very adamant about

704
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: the craft. So the first thing we did find acting

705
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: classes to get into. Okay, when we moved to LA.

706
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Even after all that work and training you went on

707
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: the road, you still wanted to do more to perfect it.

708
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, it's never ending.

709
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: You still do take Do you still take acts?

710
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: I teach acting classes now, which is also for me

711
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: a form of study for myself as well. But I

712
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: do also watch Masterclass a lot or and for directing,

713
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: I definitely like ye taking all that information and I

714
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: can get still.

715
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: So between the touring and you booking major roles, how

716
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: long is that gap and what was that struggle looking like?

717
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: I would say it was a five year build, which

718
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: is really a blessing because I have several friends that

719
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: I've been in it, doing it for well beyond five

720
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: years and still hadn't gotten their break. But so, yeah,

721
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: so I just I started booking like small parts. And

722
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah, five years in of me

723
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: living here, I got the audition for the Steve Harvey Show.

724
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Wow. And then how are you surviving in between this

725
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: five year?

726
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: Like a waitress?

727
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: You did the waitressing thing?

728
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I waitressed, and I worked at a clothing store

729
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: that was in the Sherman Oaks Galleria. Yes, okay, I

730
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: used to work at the Sherman Oaks Galleria at a

731
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: store called Benetton. Yeah, I don't think company. I think

732
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: it's folded, but yeah, that's where I was, Okay, and

733
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: then so so so I have been waitressing a lot longer.

734
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: And then I got tired of waitressing and I got

735
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: the job at ben Aton. And I have been at

736
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: Benaton like two weeks and I booked the Steve Harvey Show.

737
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

738
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: So I gave ben Aton my two weeks notice. I

739
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: didn't just leave. I gave them a two week notice.

740
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: And I still worked at ben Aton after I first

741
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 2: booked the Steve Harvey Show.

742
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool. And then but it wasn't out yet, no,

743
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: so nobody.

744
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: Was on because I came in the second season, but

745
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: I hadn't started.

746
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: People hadn't seen you yet because you that two week notice.

747
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm curious, so you become like a household name household,

748
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: everybody knows who you are. You from that point on,

749
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: is your career completely consistent or is it like a

750
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: little roller coastery in there?

751
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: There's nothing consistent in this business. Nothing, no. So I

752
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 2: did the Steve Harvey Show for five seasons, and when

753
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: it went down, I, like you, just said, thought, Oh,

754
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: I'll just get my next gig. This is great. The

755
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey Show was great for me. It's gotten my

756
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: name out there, fun character, everybody loves it, so I'm

757
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: sure I'll get another gig. It didn't happen that quick.

758
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: How long would that get?

759
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: To be honest, it wasn't long in the aspect of

760
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: what we do, because even if I was out of

761
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: work for four months, that's not really a long time

762
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: in his business. So it was probably something like that

763
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: before I got a call from Felicia Henderson, who was

764
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: the showrunner and producer of Soul Food that was on

765
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: Showtime at the time, and she offered me a part

766
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: for a reoccurring character on Soul Food, which they shot

767
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: in Toronto, so that was a huge blessing. So I

768
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: did fly to Toronto and I worked there for one season.

769
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: I can't remember how much time I spent out there,

770
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: but that was huge for me because I was going

771
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: from this sitcom really funny, silly kind of character, and

772
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: then I was going on to a Showtime show that

773
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: was a drama and a more astute kind of character.

774
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: So they were totally different from each other. So I

775
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: just always really thanked Felicia Henderson for seeing.

776
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: Pass and not communicat yeah.

777
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: And not just putting me in the box, which a

778
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: lot of people tried to do. So she immediately came

779
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: and gave me that opportunity. So that was huge.

780
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: And then where does along this journey, where does directing

781
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: and producing start to peak its little head in were you?

782
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: So? After the so thing, I want to say, the

783
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: next series that I was a regular on was All

784
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: of Us Will Smiths and Jada Pikett Smith Show. And

785
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: when that show went down, it was dry. The industry

786
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: was really dry. It was when a lot of the

787
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: black shows got taken off air. They weren't really producing

788
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: a lot of black television shows anymore. And that's when

789
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: I got frustrated and I met a girl who was

790
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: a writer. I was working on an independent project in

791
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: Atlanta at the time, and I met a girl that

792
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: was a writer and she had given me her novel.

793
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: She had written her first novel, and she asked me

794
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: if I were read it. So on my flight back

795
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: to home to LA I started reading her book and

796
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: I loved her book. It was called a Girl Named Lily.

797
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: And when I got home, I called her. I was like,

798
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: have you ever considered turning this book into a television show?

799
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: And she was like, no, I never thought about that.

800
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: And I was like, I would like to try to

801
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: do that. Would you be okay with that?

802
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: And how did you guys intersect it? To begin with?

803
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: On a film project that I've done in Atlanta, And

804
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: she was actually the costumer, and she slipped her book

805
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: and she slipping her book, and so once she said

806
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: yes to taking this journey with me of trying to

807
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: sell and this is my first time ever doing something

808
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: like this. But I had been in the business. I

809
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: had great relationships from the shows that I had been on,

810
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: So I thought I was always so naive. I was

811
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: so like I could do anything, give it this book,

812
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm not making a TV show, and so my agent

813
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: at the time, they set up some meetings for me

814
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: to pitch this book. And the feedback we kept getting

815
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: was sounds like a great idea, but it doesn't sound

816
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: like a black voice. It doesn't sound like a black person.

817
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's strange because it's written by a

818
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: black person. This is her book, her voice, what are

819
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: you talking about. So that was the feedback we got,

820
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: and it just really lit a fire under our butts.

821
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, they're not going to tell us what

822
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: a black voice is. Yes, will We're going to make

823
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: content together that is our voice and that is So

824
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: that's how we started our production company that's called the

825
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Nina Holliday Entertainment And the first project that we did

826
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: right after we went through that pitching cycle was we

827
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: shot a documentary called Angels Can't Help But Laugh, and

828
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: it was me interviewing a bunch of my peers that

829
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: were in the business just about their journey and how

830
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: they stay motivated and inspired to keep going when the

831
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: opportunities are so small, when we're constantly put in boxes

832
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: like what motivates you to keep doing this? Why don't

833
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: you just quit. So the documentary was amazing.

834
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: It sounds amazing, It was incredible.

835
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: It was Shirley out making good, Melinda Williams, Vanessa Williams,

836
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: Kim Whitley, Regina King, and we had some really great

837
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: people in the documentary and it was like our calling card.

838
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: This is what we are about. We're about the voices

839
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: of the black women in this industry.

840
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how old did that do?

841
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: So that did good. We ended up doing a lot

842
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: of college screenings and talkbacks. It was available on Amazon

843
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: or something. But this is the thing, and I really

844
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: want to tell everybody to handle your business like we

845
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: were just artists.

846
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: So that was gonna be my next question. How are

847
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: you funding? How are you maintaining during this whole project?

848
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: So we made it. It only cost us like five

849
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, so we just paid for it ourselves because

850
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: we were just It was just a camera person, lights

851
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: and stuff that we and we would go to people

852
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: to interview them.

853
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: I love that, by the way.

854
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it got out and still to this day it's

855
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: out and you can order it, but I don't know

856
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: where it's being ordered and delivered from. It's really weird.

857
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: What do you mean, if I were to go on

858
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: Amazon type it in, I could order it, but you

859
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: don't know where the money goes.

860
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: I don't know where the money's going, and I don't

861
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: know who's sending it to you. Somebody to this day, Yeah, yeah,

862
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: like you could work because I did it because I

863
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: saw it. Somebody had hit me up and was like, Oh,

864
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: isn't this your documentary? It's so good? I love it,

865
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And I was like, where did

866
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: you get it? And they were like, oh, I ordered

867
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: it off of I think it's Amazon, And I was like, really,

868
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: So I went in not ordered it, and I got it,

869
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: and I don't know. It's really weird.

870
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: So you did you try to call Amazon and find out.

871
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: I had an attorney to try to reach out to

872
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: the name that was on it. It looks like it's

873
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: coming from somewhere from China, so it was really weird.

874
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: It's really weird.

875
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: But so does that mean did you just find this out?

876
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Not too long ago, like maybe year ago.

877
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: So are they is there a way to find out

878
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: or stop it?

879
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: I don't know.

880
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: Oh no, I just wanted to do But wait, what's

881
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: the name of the documentary One more Time.

882
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Can really take care of your business when you're doing stuff.

883
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: You still want to see it.

884
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it's called Angels can't help but laugh.

885
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: Angels can't help but laugh. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, damn.

886
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: So it's like I want to say, go out there

887
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: and go out and still watch it.

888
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Really good. It's super informative, some great interviews and advice

889
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's really good. I want to Smith as

890
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: in it. It was like a lot of my peers Essens, Adkins,

891
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: Jasmine Guy.

892
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: And we could probably order on Amazon. I hate to.

893
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Let's still check it out.

894
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: It's still also I know, but that's the thing. Of course,

895
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: we want to make money off of stuff. But you

896
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: know sometimes and so this is why I want artists

897
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: to do better to handle your business. But I really

898
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: just I want to give my gifts to the world,

899
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: and that documentary is really a gift to young people

900
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: and it's a gift, and so I still want people

901
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: to see it even I want to see it. Yes,

902
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: I still want business.

903
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: I was very inspirational.

904
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was our that was my entry into producing.

905
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: That was that and then from there the whole time

906
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: this is going on, what your mom saying she still

907
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: support everyone's support. You're fully sustained on acting, you're handling

908
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: your money right.

909
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I've always been very frugal. Okay, good,

910
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: I'm very frugal and I learned a long time ago

911
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: in this business. You're working this great great getting them checks,

912
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: give them check, and then you could go years without working. Yeah. Yeah,

913
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: So I've always been very smart with my money. Yeah.

914
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: I always tell people it's all about managing cash flow. Yeah,

915
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: like people, will you get check a big check and

916
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, we can go here and buy this,

917
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: but no, let's make sure that we cover your monthly

918
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: for at least six months. Take exactly exactly minimum, hopefully exactly.

919
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: Actually that is it.

920
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: But at that time, so yeah, so I was sustaining

921
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: myself but still still okay, I need to check. I

922
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: still got a mortgage. I still got that.

923
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: You had a mortgage too, Yeah, oh girl, yeah. Do

924
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: you get married having kids in between all them?

925
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: Okay, that's where I was about. So at that time, yes,

926
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: I was married and I had a son, but I

927
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: was breaking up. In the middle of breaking up, it

928
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: was a very stressful time in my life. Personally but creatively.

929
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: I think that's why I really poured so much into

930
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: especially that particular project, because it featured women and I

931
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: wanted to just get their voice and.

932
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: With the empowerment. Yeah you needed it at that time.

933
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: I really did. I really did. And yeah, so yes

934
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: I was married, and yes I had my first son

935
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: at that time.

936
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: So after that, you go into after producing, you go

937
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: into directing.

938
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 2: So the directing came in years later. So I did

939
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: finally go through a divorce and I ended up moving

940
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: meeting my current husband who was based in Atlanta, and

941
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: when we got married, I ended up moving to Atlanta.

942
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: That's how I ended up.

943
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: In Atlanta almost just so you know, I wanted you

944
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: so bad. I was like, man, we may have to

945
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: make this trip to Atlanta.

946
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: Ah. I wish I would have known that. I would

947
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: have said, oh, that would have been some fun.

948
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys could trust me. It was a lot

949
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: better on my budgets.

950
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: So I'm sure I got you both.

951
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: I got you here, but I was willing to. We

952
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: got to see if we can make it happen.

953
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: But so yeah, so I'm so now. I moved to

954
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta in two thousand and nine when I got there,

955
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: so I had been working there already. I had done

956
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: three projects in a row that was based in Atlanta.

957
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: So I was there and then I would come back

958
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: to LA there and so when I decided I was

959
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: moving there, I was like, Okay, I want to help

960
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: contribute to the film industry there because if I'm going

961
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: to live there and be considered now a Atlanta actor,

962
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: I need all the games to be up. So I

963
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: was on a mission to really pour into the film industry.

964
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: And that's when I started teaching acting classes. I had

965
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: a lot of young actors, aspiring actors that I worked with,

966
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: and I fell in love with doing that. I really

967
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: fell in love with just really teaching them how I

968
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: learned acting. And it was really study the books, study

969
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: the craft, watch films, and we would do a scene

970
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: study class. So in scene study, I'm directing actors in

971
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: the scenes. And so we got ready to produce a

972
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: movie that it was independently funded. It was like maybe

973
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars, but the script was funny.

974
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: It was a hood comedy. It was called a hashtag

975
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: Digital Lives Matter, Okay, and it was starting DC Young

976
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: fly Me, Little Hudson, I do too, Ernestine Johnson, b Simone.

977
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: So it was a lot of new actors, new faces,

978
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: but they were growing in their social media platforms, right,

979
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: So we produced this movie for them, and we didn't

980
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: really have money to pay a director. So I was like,

981
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: I can do it. I was like, I've been directing

982
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: young talent for a few years now. It's a comedy.

983
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 2: That's my sweet spot. Ann it's hood, that's my background. Yeah, yeah,

984
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: so I could do this, and that's how I directed

985
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: my first project.

986
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: Wow. And in between all this, you're still acting.

987
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, still acting. So when I first moved to Atlanta,

988
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: I called Tyler Perry Studio.

989
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: I was about to get to that. Yeah, oh yeah.

990
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I just want to let y'all know

991
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: that I live in Atlanta, so if there's any parts

992
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: on your show, I'm here and I'm available. And so

993
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: they did end up calling me and giving me a

994
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: role on Meet the Browns.

995
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

996
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: And that's how I got on Meet the Browns. So yeah,

997
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: so it was still acting and what else was going

998
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: on at the time. I also opened up wanting to

999
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: pour into the community there, the art community. I opened

1000
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: up a coffee shop, slash theatrical bookstore right because when

1001
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: I was teaching the acting classes, there was nowhere for

1002
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: me to send them to get these books that I

1003
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: was telling them about. We're here, we have Samuel French,

1004
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: and as a young actor, I spent so much time

1005
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: in Samuel French. But they didn't have anything like that

1006
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. So I opened up a store and had

1007
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: a contract with Samuel French store here and so I

1008
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: offered some of the books at my store. And it

1009
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: was a coffee shop, it was a lounge, we had

1010
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: a stage, so I would do my acting class.

1011
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: Run that business too, very.

1012
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: Very I loved all the just the community of it.

1013
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: I loved pouring into the people. People loved it. But

1014
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: running the business was really stressful. For It's very stressful

1015
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: and it was like I had to be there every

1016
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: day and I was like, I gotta go make money.

1017
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: So it stayed open for three years and then I

1018
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: eventually had to close it just because it was just training, mentally, financially,

1019
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: all the things. But people still ask me about it

1020
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: all the time and was like it was just before

1021
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: it's time. If you opened it up now, it would

1022
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: blow up so much. And I'm like yeah, I don't

1023
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: have the time or the wherewithal to do that again,

1024
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 2: so I don't know, but who knows what the future holds.

1025
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: But those were the things that I was doing before

1026
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: I did the directing thing and having babies, had two

1027
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: more and more kids.

1028
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: Yes, how can everybody keep up with everything?

1029
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: Ary Jay on all the platforms? I am Terry Jay

1030
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: Vaughn on all the platforms. And I do have to

1031
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: plug my new series right here, okay, straight ahead? Yeah,

1032
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: and it's a beautiful Do we have time just for

1033
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: me to tell this quick little story?

1034
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: I love it?

1035
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: Okay. I've had this TV show idea for at least

1036
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: seven years. It was inspired by a girlfriend of mine,

1037
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: London Breed, who became the mayor of San Francisco. Black Girl.

1038
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: She's the only black female mayor that has ever been

1039
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: in the city of San Francisco, and it was just

1040
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: her journey and all the stuff she had to go

1041
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: through was very interesting to me as a story. She's

1042
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: a girl from the hood, all the things, and here

1043
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: she is the mayor of one of the richest cities

1044
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: in the country. Right. So I had this show idea,

1045
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: and every time I pitched it to people, they were like, no,

1046
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything political blah blah blah

1047
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. So I put it aside, got

1048
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: busy directing, acting and other stuff. But the strike happened

1049
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, the writer strike and a brutal strike.

1050
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: It was brutal, and I was like, so all my

1051
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: jobs went away. Had jobs lined up through the year,

1052
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: and they all went away. And so I was like, Okay,

1053
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to focus back on my dream, which is

1054
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: to have my own series. And so I picked the

1055
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: show back up and I called my writing partner who

1056
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: was working on the show for me with me, and

1057
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: her name is Nia Palmer, great writer, and I was like, look,

1058
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: I know we're in the strike, but would you be

1059
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: willing to just write a fifteen minute proof of concept

1060
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: so we can shoot a proof of concept of this

1061
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 2: show so when the strike is over we can send

1062
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: it out and pitch it. And she was like, hell, yeah,

1063
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: let's do it. So because I was nervous because a

1064
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: lot of writers just wasn't to they were not and

1065
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: I was like, we'll just do it, you know, I'll

1066
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: call on friends, call the favors, and we'll shoot it,

1067
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: so we did. I did that because it was in

1068
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: the political space I wanted to add I wanted to

1069
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: have a consulting producer, just to add some cachet for

1070
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 2: when I go out to pitch it. So I met

1071
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: with Keisha Lance Bottoms, who was our mayor in Atlanta

1072
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: some years ago, and we've always had a good relationship.

1073
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: So I called her and I was like, I have

1074
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: an idea. I want to share it run by you.

1075
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: And I met with her and when I pitched her

1076
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: the idea, she loved it and she was like, absolutely,

1077
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: I will join you on this journey. So now I

1078
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: got Keisha Lance Bottoms as a producer with me. I

1079
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: got the script, I got my producing team all together

1080
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Oh, and I had to find somebody to

1081
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: fund it because it's still so Keisha was like, I

1082
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: know an investor that would invest in this because he

1083
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: supports black women. Oh okay, this is one of the

1084
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: reasons why I love living in Atlanta. I cannot lie.

1085
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 2: I love it. The support there and that black pride

1086
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: and stuff there is amazing. So he was like, yep,

1087
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: I got it. I'll cover it. So shot this proof

1088
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: of concept in twenty twenty three at the end of

1089
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: the year at the beginning of the next year. Now

1090
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: the strike is over. I got it edited when my

1091
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: guy Victor editor back in Atlanta. He edited. He got

1092
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: it just like I wanted it. I was like perfect

1093
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: because I was like, I needed to look like it

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Speaker 2: can air on TV. I needed to look like that,

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Speaker 2: and it did. So the music was great, everything was great. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was like, so, let's put it out into the

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Speaker 2: world and see what happens. So my agent sent it out.

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Speaker 2: We got calls left and right of people wanting to

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Speaker 2: meet with us about it. So we started setting up meetings.

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Speaker 2: Every meeting we had, they were pitching us why they

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Speaker 2: want our show. We did not have to pitch anything.

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Speaker 2: And the perfect fit for me was Tyler Perry.

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Speaker 1: Of course I was wanting it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he was the perfect person. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. For several reasons, he was the one, and

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Speaker 2: working with him has been amazing, like incredibly collaborative. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he got it. He got us right away. He

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Speaker 2: was like the wind beneath our wings. And he had

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Speaker 2: a deal at Netflix already in place.

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Speaker 1: What's the name of it again?

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Speaker 2: So the show is she the People, She the People,

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Speaker 2: She the People. It will It's starring me, created by me,

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Speaker 2: Linda's it are in May, So May launching May on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Please look out for it.

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Speaker 1: She the People, She the People, and I will be

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Speaker 1: watching it. I'm really excited and very happy. That was

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful story. Thank you, beautiful ending, So She

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Speaker 1: the People. Watch it on Netflix now, and you keep

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Speaker 1: up with Terry J. Vaughn on all social media platforms. Yep,

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Speaker 1: don't forget the Jay, don't forget the JA, don't forget

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Speaker 1: the Jay. Peace out.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks honey.

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Speaker 1: For more Eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect.

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Speaker 1: Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.