WEBVTT - Ep. 133 - Scott McCarron 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.559 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host, 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:11.879 Shane Bacon, and apologies for no US Open rap podcast. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.360 Last week been a little bit busy. My wife and 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.920 I introduced our first kiddo to the world in early 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.400 June and the week before the US Open. Good timing, 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:21.960 I know, And so it's been a little bit busy. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.480 Coming back, obviously from Pebble Beach. It was busy week there. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.920 It was a really fun week. We had a great, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.120 a great championship. The crew at Fox did and I 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.720 feel like the US j had a great one and 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.960 everybody really really enjoyed watching Pebble and everything that comes 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.760 with it. And I came home and I've been on 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.920 daddy duty basically for the last week and uh and 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.800 getting set for what is coming this week, the US 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.400 Senior Open. It's at the war and Course at at 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.000 Notre Dame. It's gonna be a great, great championship. We 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.600 get going on Wednesday noon to one. We have a 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.040 previous show on FS one and then we rock and 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.840 roll Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday commercial free, no commercials all 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.560 four days of the championship. So if you want to 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.320 see whole bunch of golf shots and you want to 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.960 see a lot a lot of players tune in. It 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:04.480 should be a lot of fun. Curtis Strange will be 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.280 up in the booth with me, Brad Facts will be 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.920 doing some holes and and yet we rock and roll, uh. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.360 Starting as I said, Wednesday and then into Thursday in 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.160 the Championship. This podcast as all Clubhouse podcasts, brought to 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.080 you by Titlist and the new pro v one in 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.639 pro v one X. They've been redesigned for more speed, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.959 more precision, and more consistency than ever before. Compare the 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.400 two pro v one as a software field lower flight 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.200 than the Prov one X. Prov one X as a 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.679 higher flight with more spin and a firmer field. That's 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.400 the golf ball I love to play. Both models now 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.720 available in yellow. 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As you should prove how 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.639 good you can be t have the new prov one 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.720 or pro v one x on your next round of golf. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.400 Scott McCarron here this week to kind of talk a 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.119 little bit about the PGA Tour and the transition into 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.280 the champions and how it's how it's gone for him, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.560 both positively and maybe differently than he expected it would 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.000 be over the last three years as he's really become 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.880 one of the dominant figures on the PGA Tour champions 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.840 And then we previewed a little bit about the Senior 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.239 Open and just talked about what needs to change for him. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.799 He's never had a great track record at US Opens 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.000 and US Senior Opens, and he talked a little bit 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.440 about that and what he hopes will be different this 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.160 week at the war And Course will be a Notre Dame. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.360 We're excited to get there. As I mentioned, we've had 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.120 a great season so far. The Women's Open was awesome. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.480 Of course US Open was great at Pebble, and now 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.079 we rock and roll into the Senior and then into 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.720 a whole bunch of the amateur events. So I hope 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.440 you're paying attention to tuning in. As I said Wednesday 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.760 preview show, Thursday, we get going. Let's get to Scott 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.280 and we welcome into the clubhouse Scott McCarron, who is 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.200 having one heck of a year, three wins already, including 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.160 one a couple of weeks ago in Japan. Scott, is 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.880 is that? Is that? Two continents with wins in two 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.959 thousand nineteen. You're gonna try to rack up a few more? 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.040 What's the deal here? Well, I'll tell you what. We've 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.079 been on a pretty good role. Just been having a 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.920 lot of fun out here, putting myself in position with 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.440 nine holes ago and that's, you know, kind of our goal. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.840 And I've been able to come through three times with 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.600 three wins here in the last seven weeks. So playing 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.040 some good golf and having a lot of fun. Well, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.680 something I wanted to just kind of start with that 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.160 I've always found very, very interesting, and I just I 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.640 would like for someone like you to explain it to me. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.200 You know, we we focus so much on the pg 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.200 Tour as players make their way through their careers, and 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.480 you know, you kind of competed against guys like Greg 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.840 Norman and Paul Ezinger and the Curtis Strangers of the world, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.680 and then they turned fifty and they don't have a 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.920 careers are great careers on the PGA Tour champions And 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.760 then there's guys like you who had solid PGA Tour careers. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.400 They turned fifty and it's like something clicks and the 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.520 in the in the career takes off, you know, fifty 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.040 and beyond. What do you feel like is the number 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.520 one factor for the success on the PGA Tour champions 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.560 for for somebody like you who has obviously embraced this 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.240 and has done so well with it over the last 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.880 three years of your career. You know, that's a great question, Shane. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.200 I think maybe a little bit of it would be hunger, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.080 meaning I'm hungry, I want to win, I want to 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.719 win majors. I want to win as much as I can. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.200 I want to make as much money as I can 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.719 in the next ten and twelve years so that I 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.880 can retire and do something else. Um. I think some 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.640 of those guys come out here that had great careers 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.000 and made a bunch of money, a lot of other businesses, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.599 a lot of the things going on might not be 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.720 as hungry to you know, put all the work in 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.039 that you need to do every single week. UM. I 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.800 know Bernard Lawnger is hungry. He works his butt off. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.159 Miguel i'm Aneljmenez is hungry. Um, Jerry Kelly, you know 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.240 these guys are hungry. And I think that's what kind 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.320 of separates a little bit the guys that are doing 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.839 really well out here in the PG Church champions and 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.480 the guys that come out and have already had great 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.680 careers and have already done it and I just want 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.440 to come out here and have a good time. Yeah. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.200 One thing I've noticed, and I feel like this also 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.320 has to be a factor. And and you're a guy 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.120 that's always been very committed to fitnesses. I feel like 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.919 the guys that have continued to really keep themselves in 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.560 great shape, you can tell when they turned fifty and 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.800 move on to the champions. It seems like those two 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.599 things kind of go hand and hand a little bit. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.119 Well they do and mean the guy. It's kind of funny. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.640 The same guys that were working out, you know, when 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.000 I was on tour twenty years ago, um, are the 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.040 same guys that are working out now. I mean there 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:55.720 was only a handful of us that we were in 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.200 the fitness trailers working out all the time, and it's 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.440 the same guys are in the fitness trailer now. They're 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.919 trying to prolong their careers. UM have less injuries, be 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.360 able to keep up hitting the ball far with distance, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.440 and that's one of the things I think is key. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.320 If you can still hit the ball far. I'm the 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.800 PGA Tour champions. You can compete into your sixties. It's 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.920 the guys that don't hit it far, never did hit 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.080 it far. They'll have a good three or four years, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.600 but then they have a tougher time competing because they're 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.520 losing distance. And then the new young guys we say 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.240 young at coming on this tour and they're hitting it far. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.760 So I think if you could have some length, UM, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.000 you can have a you know, fairly extended career out 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.160 the PGA Tour Champions up until you're sixty two, sixty three, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.559 sixty four. Yeah, it is. It is interesting. And listen, 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.160 I know none of us like to talk about our 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.960 mortality and and and how long we have on this earth, 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.919 but I do. I talked to Steve Flesh about this 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.320 when he was forty eight years old. I remember we 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.120 were sitting we were doing Norman's event down in Florida, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.600 and he was talking about how he was going to 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.440 get back into it. You know, he was gonna play 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.840 in some web events and he's been kind of grinding 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.880 on the practice green, you'd been hit a little bit 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.560 more range balls, and he was getting ready for fifty. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.200 And you know, when you look at a lot of 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.320 players over the years on the Champions Tour, it is 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.600 one of those things where you might have and you've 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.800 mentioned ten, eleven, twelve years, which is possible for sure, 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.400 but you do see a lot of the successes coming 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.760 from guys that are fifty two, fifty three, fifty five, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.840 And you mentioned it when you started. It's like, I'm 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.680 gonna go out and get it now when I can. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.320 And for you, I mean, you are doing so well 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.320 as you've gotten older. I mean it's seen you. I 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.880 even saw you read a quote you said where it 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.840 seems like this year you felt more and more comfortable 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.400 out there. Do you do you in a weird way? 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.200 Do you look at the calendar? Do you look at 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.920 the clock and go, all right, three wins? I'm fifty three, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.120 now I got you know, I can get him, get 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.160 a couple more majors, all that stuff for. Are you 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.480 just trying to do it as long as you can? Well? 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.840 You know that It's interesting. When I first came out here, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.520 before I even turned fifty, guys say, hey, come out ready, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.760 go play the you know web dot com or the 0:07:54.800 --> 0:08:00.239 new Corn Ferry Tour. Uh a little plug in for today. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.920 Uh play as much as you can and be ready, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.760 because you know you might only have two or three 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.720 year window to make all your money. Um. And when 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.920 I got out here, I thought, you know, that's probably correct. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.520 I better get out here, and I better win. I 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.240 better do as much as I can the next two 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.000 or three or four years. But now having said that, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.440 I feel very comfortable and if I can stay in shape, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.840 you know, injury free. And that's the other thing. We 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.880 get older you know you're gonna get injuries as we 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.480 get older. Um, if I can stay injury free and 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.360 stay in shape, I feel I can be competitive until 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.640 I'm in the sixties. I mean, look at what Bernard 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.400 Longer is doing. I mean, that guy is kind of 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.360 our benchmark for when we look at what can we 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.240 do and what's humanly possible. The guys playing some great 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.440 golf still in the sixties sixty one, almost sixty two, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.120 So I think if you can stay in shape, you 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.640 can have a longer career. But for a lot of guys, yeah, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.720 you better get it, get it done in the first 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.400 three or four years, because more younger guys are coming out, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.240 you know, to come out here and compete, and they're 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.240 these guys are good. I mean we got Phil Mickelson 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.720 can be out here, you know a little bit. Tiger 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.440 Wood could be out here in a little bit. Ernie 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.560 Els is coming out. So we've got some good players 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.080 coming out here on the PGA Church Champions And I 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.600 hope that all these guys will embrace the tour and 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.040 come out and play because it's a lot of fun. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.640 And I'll never forget two years ago. I'll bet amounting 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.040 with Jack Nicholas um at loss Tree and we had 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.079 dinner over at their house and he had just won 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.920 the Alliance Tournament UH the week before, and he pulled 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.720 me aside and says, hey, I just want you to 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.280 know I have one regret. I wish I would have 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.600 played more on the PGA Church Champions. I loved it. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.800 I had so much fun, but I wish I would 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.720 have played more, because once it's over, it's over, and 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.640 that's it. I mean that that's such a great point. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.080 Is you know, the the whole you know best mulligan. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.079 You know that Lee Travino quote. You know it's it's 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.400 the greatest mulligan in golf as you turn fifty. But 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.520 there's not a sixty five or seven year old tour. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.640 So this is it. As you mentioned, I mean, when 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.320 you get going, when you turned fifty and you made 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.080 the switch, did it Was it more competitive? Was it 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.120 more serious? Was it what you thought it would be? 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.520 What do you feel like as you look back three 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.960 years ago, what do you feel like the PGA Torch 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.000 Champions has been for you in the sense of competition 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.040 compared to maybe what you thought it would be. And 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:07.839 I know, I know you'd spent some time and still 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.439 have some friends out there. But just being between the ropes, 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.800 it was it was it equal to more than or 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.680 less than what you thought it might be. You know, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.880 it's interesting. I got a lot of advice, and I 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.640 was seeking advice before I got out there, and everybody said, oh, 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.680 you're gonna love it. You know, guys don't really practice much, 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.400 and guys go have a beer after the round, and 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.120 you know it's very very easy going and you know 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.160 you're gonna have a good time. Well, I got out 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.719 here and these guys were practicing harder than they ever 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.640 did on the PGA Tour, and no one was in 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.760 the bar after the round. Um, these guys were working out, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.640 and these guys were going low, starting on the first 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.920 day on Friday and shooting fifteen to twenty under in 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.160 three rounds. I mean, I was shocked at how good 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:50.280 these guys still could play under tough conditions. The golf 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.360 courses were not short. We were playing some of the 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.960 courses that I played on the PGA Tour, and we're 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.720 playing the same distance on the PGA Church Champions as 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.520 we did back in my PGA Tour days. These courses 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.200 were set up off the whole locations, we're talk um rough, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.800 maybe not quite as high as maybe we had sometimes 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.120 on the PGA two days, but still these golf courses 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.960 were playing good and these guys were going low. So 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.560 I was kind of shocked at how good these guys 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.080 really were, and I said, you know, and I'd better 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.480 start really getting my game going if I want to 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.720 compete out here. Now. Is that a little bit of 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.320 a bumber though, I mean not a bummer in the 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.319 sense that you're gonna have to keep grinding and keep 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.000 going after it. But if you're sitting there going all right, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.880 I'll have a couple of bud lights after the round 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.080 and I get to kind of go back to the 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.719 hotel and chill. And you get out there and you're going, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.640 wait a minute, I didn't expot and sign up for 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.680 rains balls for four hours a day. You know, it's 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.600 for me. I love that. I've always been a hard worker, um, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.360 and I liked the work. So that was that was 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.960 a little bit shocked at how much these guys are practicing. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.840 But that's exactly what I knew I needed to do 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.960 to come out here and compete. I've always done that 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.400 my whole career. So um, I was actually happy to 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.839 see that the guys were out there working hard and 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.599 doing that because it motivates you. I mean when I 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.200 see Brenn Longer in there when I first came out 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.120 in the fifties, seven fifty eight, out there working, working 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.720 out as hard as he is, um, eating right, you know, 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.360 not drinking. 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Zip recruiter the smartest way to 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.600 hire all right back to Scott mccaren, Yeah, it's it's 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.440 it goes back to I mean, if you look at 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.240 the LPG Tour, obviously, the PGA Tour, PGA Tour champions 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.600 if you look at all of these things, and I 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.120 feel like the players that are the most successful are 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.640 the ones that are happy with success but never content 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.040 with it. And and to your point, a lot of 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.800 the times you'll see guys win and the next week, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.679 you know, they're on the driving range on Monday, You're 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.720 there on the driving range on Tuesday. Even even Rory 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.240 McElroy when he won the Wills Fargo a few weeks back, 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.000 you know, he goes somebody asked him, do you wish 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.640 the US Open started tomorrow and he goes, no, I'll 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.920 probably be hungover, and sure enough he was literally at 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.560 Pebble Monday morning for a practice around. I mean, it's 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.480 like we can sit here and be completely happy with 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.480 what we've done six success wise, but you've got to 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.320 kind of go back out there because the next week 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.440 is a completely new deal. I mean, the they've they've 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.360 shuffled the cards and you don't know what you're gonna get. 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.120 And so, as you said, it's it's really about, you know, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.080 year to year, what am I gonna do now? And 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.000 you're having your best year of your career, what do 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.160 you feel like has changed in two thousand and nineteen 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:15.000 compared to season's past when you've obviously had success as well. Well, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.840 you know, I wouldn't say not so much has changed 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.320 this year. You know, I've won eleven times out here 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.440 with the Major, so um, I've finished fourth in the 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.920 Schwab Cup. I finished second on the money list last 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.920 two years, so I've been very competitive out here and 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.760 you know, trying to win the Schwab Cup. I had 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.480 a chance with nine holes to go last year to 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.280 win a Swab Cup, but VJ saying played a great 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.600 back nine so, um, I've been playing well. You know, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.000 people think, oh, you know, what's totally different this year? 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.200 You know, not much. I mean I've won three times 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.280 in the last seven weeks, which has been great. I 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.240 felt I left a couple of tournaments out there. The 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.680 whole Classic in Newport, I felt like, you know, let 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.720 one go there, um Kirk Triplett one. I lost the 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.840 playoff five shot, and then the Senior p GA Kenny 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.640 Tenna gallabeat me in the last hole with the pot 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.520 from about twelve ft, which is a great pot. But 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.640 I felt, you know, I left some shots out there, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.120 uh that I felt like I could have given myself 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.200 a better chance to win. So even though I've won three, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.840 I feel like I should have won five, you know, 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.640 And when you win five, you feel like you should 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.120 have won seven. And when you do that, when you win, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.680 you want to be on their next week on Monday, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.320 out there practicing play and getting ready. It's kind of 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.440 mindset of you can never be too content about winning. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.440 And one of the things out here in the PG 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.160 two Champions, you went a tournament. It's not like I'm 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.840 women you know, millions of dollars. You know, you're winning 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.360 a couple of hundred thousand and maybe three. But you 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.240 can't rest on that. You know, you gotta keep going 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.440 and you gotta win as much as you can um 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.920 out here. So you know, I'm working hard. I'm trying 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.520 to win as much as I can and I want 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.000 to win this Schwab Cup at the end of the year. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.160 That's that was my goal, and it's been my goal 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.960 in the last three years. Just Burn Longer has had 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.800 a little bit of a stragglehold on it. He's had 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.560 a straggle hold on everything that got I'm telling you, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.880 he's not a human. He's just an He's he just 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.480 is a golfing machine built to play golf. I'm convinced 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.000 of that until somebody tells me otherwise. You mentioned Tanagawa. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.120 So the rumor is his nickname is the Assassin. Rumor 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.120 is that he just you do not want to play 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.120 the golf for money? Is is that? Is that? Is 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.840 that a fact? That's what I've heard. That is the 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.600 fact that Whisper Rock he is the Assassin, And you 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.800 know he he is been a great player. We played 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.000 college golf together. He was two years younger than I was, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.360 and Kenny t was always one of the greatest guys 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.360 that ever been around, and a great player. Played in 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.560 Japan and then tried to play a little bit in 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.240 the web. You know, never had much success, but we 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.160 knew if he got out here he was going to 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.920 do well because he still hits the ball a long ways, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.480 got a great short game. Um, he just had to 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.720 learn how to, you know, really be competitive again and 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.440 be comfortable in that situation. And it didn't take him 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.000 long once he got out here. And we Kenny T 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.720 and I play every Tuesday. We have a little game. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.160 Grant Job and I, who went to you Slay together, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.440 were roommates and frattorney brothers take on all comers. So 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.960 we're usually playing against Kenny T and Glenn Day or 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.160 Kent Jones. And I'll tell you what. The assassin might 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.119 get a lot of money at Whisper Rock in Arizona, 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.600 but he pays out a lot your champion there. You 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.280 put that out there on the airways. Oh, they take 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.960 the assassin on. I'm not I'm not touching him. I'm 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.000 not driving thirty minutes north to play the guy at 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.960 Whisper Rock. I've heard too many rumors about about hopefully 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.920 your bill fold is double the size when you show 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.040 up because they're not gonna leave that way. But so 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.080 all right, so what's your game. Let's let's hear the game. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.400 I mean, you're out there, you're battling, you, you're you're 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.720 throwing a couple of shacks. Either way. What do you 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.720