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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Probably

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Speaker 2: into that game. Do want to piggyback on some stuff

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Speaker 2: Other than that, we will have Stucky join us as well.

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Speaker 2: Talk a lot of college football, actually because the Army

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Speaker 2: got some good games this week. I'm pretty excited. So Stuck,

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Speaker 2: let's dive into the game big picture, the season officially

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Speaker 2: but that run defense to night was pretty good. They

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430
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,080
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432
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,879
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433
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434
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435
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,840
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436
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: nice win by for the Rams on the road. That's

437
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,480
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439
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440
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441
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444
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440
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00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,439
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Speaker 2: Okay, North Carolina Belichick, I've seen so many takes. Let's

489
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: start with the college people. Because I've actually seen a

490
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: lot of college people. I would say, talk down on this,

491
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: hire and I want to start with this. If you

492
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: were North Carolina, one, you're not stealing like Kirby Smart right,

493
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: You're not stealing Lane Kiffen, like established Dan Lanning, established

494
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: college guys that you know plug and play can dominate, Right,

495
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: it's not happening. This is by far the best hire

496
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: you can make. One, it's one of the best football

497
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: coaches in the history of the sport. Two, the name, recognition,

498
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 2: the buzz it brings your program is dion like, like,

499
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: there is no way you could have paid me to

500
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: watch a forty five minute UNC introductory press conference. With

501
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the other people that they would

502
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: have hired, no one would have cared. Matt Campbell, the

503
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: dude from Kansas whatever, No one would have cared. Everyone

504
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: in the world of foot high school, pro college paid

505
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: attention today because they hired Bill Belichick. And in the

506
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: pros winning the press conference is irrelevant. It does not matter. Obviously,

507
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: when you have Jim tom Sula press conference, it can

508
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: be a problem. Sirianni had an awful press conference, won

509
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: a lot of games. Everyone thought Dan Campbell was the

510
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: village idiot. Looks like he turned out. Okay, we've seen

511
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 2: a lot of guys like God, it really impressive in

512
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: the press conference. Who cares? It does not matter? In

513
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: the NFL. In college that shit does matter, It really does.

514
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: Belichick had his general manager, Mike Lombardi on Pat McAfee today,

515
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 2: So he basically has two spokesman himself and Mike, who

516
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: is a trained media podcast guy who can speak for

517
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: the program. And they got serious outlets to put out

518
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: their message. So like the value North Carolina got today,

519
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: whatever they're paying Belichick, they couldn't have paid for that,

520
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: and what they're gonna get over the course of this offseason,

521
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: what he brings to the table just from Belichick North Carolina.

522
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: He dropped the line today like, yeah, I talked what

523
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: he's talking Like, I talked to Julius Peppers. I talked

524
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: to Lawrence Taylor, which when you're a football guy, older guy,

525
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: that's not that weird, right, Obviously coach Lawrence, Julius Peppers

526
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: was there. And then he just casually like, yeah, I

527
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: spoke with Mike. He means Michael Jordan, who I would

528
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: imagine him and Bill have known each other for a

529
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: long time. So that stuff matters in college today, mattered

530
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: at North Carolina, and they should be if I was

531
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: a North Carolina fan, a static. So all these people nitpicking, well,

532
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: how's he gonna do? Guys, they're six and six. They've

533
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: been kind of irrelevant. Besides some draft picks here and

534
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: there like this hire is a no brainer. From that

535
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: their standpoint, another conversation, I've heard his legacy right, Well,

536
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: here is a reality. If Bill had never coached again,

537
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: if he had just gone back and forth between Nantucket

538
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: and Jupiter, Florida with his twenty four year old girlfriend

539
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 2: and just ridden off into the sunset and just enjoyed

540
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: watching his son coach and just chilled, and it never

541
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: ever stood on a sideline the rest of his life.

542
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: His legacy and the way we talked about him as

543
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: a guy with six Super Bowls and you know, the

544
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: patriarch of you know, one of the greatest, if not

545
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: the greatest dynasty of my lifetime, would never be changed.

546
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: And if he loses at North Carolina, like let's just

547
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: say it's possible. If this doesn't go well, I'm betting

548
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: on it him having success. I think they will win.

549
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: If he stays there for four years, I'd be stunned

550
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: if he's not, you know, a playoff coach, especially when

551
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: you factor in his conference. But if it doesn't go

552
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: well and it just kind of flames out and this

553
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: is the end of Bill Belichick, it will also not

554
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: phase his legacy. Vince Lombardi coached the Redskins after the Packers.

555
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking about this the other day, like

556
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, like, who were prominent sports

557
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: people that were basically dead, already gone, like not part

558
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: of my life for the last twenty thirty years as

559
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: I was growing up becoming a sports fan, Vince Lombardi

560
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: long gone. You close your eyes, you picture Vince Lombardi

561
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: drawn that sweep for the Green Bay Packers. Bear Bryant,

562
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't even think I've ever heard him say a

563
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: word long gone. John Wooden, same thing. Now, he passed

564
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: away in twenty ten. But Bill Walsh, right, he died.

565
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: I think when I was in high school. You know,

566
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Bill Walsh after he retired quit resigned from the forty

567
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: nine ers in I think it was nineteen eighty eight.

568
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: They actually won the Super Bowl the next year with

569
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: George Seffert. I think most people view Bill Walsh as

570
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: winning five Super Bowls. Definitely four. George sefer won a couple.

571
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: Bill called her quits after eighty eight. Then he coached Stanford,

572
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: where they didn't have any success. Bill Walsh and Vince

573
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Lombardi we hold to esteem like you would talk about

574
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: business legends like Bezos or Warren Buffett, or just like

575
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: famous people in America, and we never talk about how

576
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: their career ended. I bet if you polled most people

577
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: like under fifty that obviously if they fallow sports, no

578
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Vince Lombardi, they would have no clue that his career

579
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: didn't end after the Packers. Definitely most younger people that

580
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: if you follow football here, Bill Walsh's name a lot,

581
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: you would not know that he coached Stanford in the

582
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: early nineties. So I think this risk for Bill isn't

583
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: that crazy. He actually doesn't have that much to lose,

584
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: but he actually has something to gain because there's a

585
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: short list of coaches who have done both successfully and

586
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: won it all. I think Jim Harbaugh will be added

587
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: to the list, Barry Switzer, Pete Carroll, and Jimmy Johnson.

588
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: Now Pete Carroll was at USC Barry Switzer was at Oklahoma,

589
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Johnson was at Miami. Those are powerhouses forever,

590
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: and those are places when you get the job and

591
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: you do it right, everyone agrees you can win a

592
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: national championship. They don't say that about North Carolina, but

593
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: as Bill talked about it today, that's not the world

594
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm entering. I'm entering this nil transfer portal, a completely

595
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: different landscape. So will it work. I'm betting on it.

596
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: There's no sure thing. But here's what I know. If

597
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: he does flop, it will not impact the way he's

598
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: discussed to my unborn child, what I'm telling him about

599
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick in twenty years, it will not matter, Just

600
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: like when I tell him about Peyton Manning his last

601
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: season when he couldn't throw, that won't come up, or

602
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: how Tiger Wood's back does not work. No one cares.

603
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: They remember the great moments. But if this goes well

604
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: like he will be an undisputed like it would be

605
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: the icing on his cake. And you could argue that

606
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: it would be more impressive than if he would have

607
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: stayed in the NFL and just won more games past Sula,

608
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: even if he never won another Super Bowl, just had

609
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: good teams, like we know he can win if he

610
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: gets the right quarterback. And uh, last, but not least

611
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: on this topic, Listen, I think sometimes when you're dominating,

612
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, in fairness to Bill. And here's the other thing,

613
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 2: like one thing that clearly resonates with human beings in

614
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: this landscape, we have right now is authenticity like that

615
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: that's really big, like to society right now, all the

616
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: metrics are inclined to tell you that, and the moment

617
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: people think you're a fraud or a phony, they're out

618
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: on you. And that's always been true in coaching, because

619
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: there have been college coaches that were widely viewed forever

620
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: as like, ey, guy's kind of a politician. It's kind

621
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: of the guy Bill's replacing, fits that mold mac Brown,

622
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: kind of a bullshit artist. Saban was the best of

623
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: both worlds, right. He was an elite, no nonsense, dominant

624
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: scheme guy, but he also could put on the charm

625
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: in some of those videos of him dancing at a

626
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: church or dancing in someone's living room. He could do

627
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: that and I don't think he was faking it. So

628
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: when people are like, how is Bill gonna do that? Well,

629
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: guess what. He won't have to just be yourself. You

630
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: would say. Deon Sanders is the polar opposite of Bill Belichick.

631
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: But why do people relate to Deon Sanders Because he's

632
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: been the same. He's acted the exact same since I

633
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: was like seven years old and started watching football. He's

634
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: just now from a player version morphed into the coach version,

635
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: but he's still authentically true to who he is. And

636
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Belichick even today, like I mean, he's a little more

637
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: I would say open in these press conferences, but he's

638
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: still Bill Belichick and authentic to who he is. So

639
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: part of college football, which I don't understand why it's

640
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: that polarising, Like how's he gonna dance? Part of the

641
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: reason everyone makes fun of Brian Kelly. He's making up

642
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: fucking accents. It's like, Brian, just talk like you talk.

643
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: Or that video where he's spinning around, it's like, you

644
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: don't need to try to do that. Now, that was

645
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: kind of funny, but just try to be yourself. That's

646
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: got you this far. So I actually don't think Bill

647
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: Belichick has to morph into something he's not what he is.

648
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: We'll see if it works, but like his best chance

649
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: for success is just to be him. Now. Part of

650
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: him rubbed a lot of people in the NFL the

651
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: wrong way. And there was a Wickersham article today, There

652
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: was an athletic article today. One thing that was said

653
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: that he burned a lot of bridges while he was

654
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: in the NFL. And in the Wickersham article. It said

655
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: that when he interviewed last year with the Atlanta Falcons

656
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: that it turned him off when Terry Fontinau was interviewing him,

657
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: that he acted like he knew everything about drafting. And

658
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people had pushed back on

659
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 2: Bill that like he has to be in charge. Well,

660
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: in fairness to Bill, even no one. You won't find

661
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: anyone besides like maybe him and some family members defending

662
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: some of his draft picks, especially at the end, that

663
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: they were an embarrassment. But in what world in an

664
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: interview could Terry font know look at Bill Belichick and

665
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: break down the draft of their philosophies and what works

666
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: and what doesn't and expect Bill Belichick to take him seriously,

667
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: Like I do understand if you're sitting in his shoes, like, yeah, now,

668
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: if you want to argue burning bridges and screwing over

669
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: people and acting like an asshole, yeah, that's probably is

670
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: not a great move over the countless times he did it.

671
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: And now he has no job options in the NFL,

672
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: which is a big reason. Clearly he went to college.

673
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: He knew no one was going to hire him, and

674
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: I think the only place that would have made sense

675
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: and they entered it last year. Was he has a

676
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: good relationship with Howie. He trusts Howie to make moves.

677
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: He's even talked about it on national television. Was to

678
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: go to the Eagles and then the Eagles start having

679
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: a good season, he realized, like, who knows, it might

680
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: not happen, Like I'm not going to the Jags, the

681
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: Bears aren't going to talk to me. I'm never going

682
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: to the Jets. Like it's just not gonna happen. And

683
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: the one thing I said this over the course of

684
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: the week and you saw it today. The guy loves

685
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: to coach football. He's not doing this for the money. Obviously,

686
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: he's still highly paid in North Carolina. But if you

687
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: put me in his shoes, if you put you in

688
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: his shoes, with his success, where he's at in life

689
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: with a young girlfriend at seventy three years old, with

690
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: his son, like, I don't know if I'd work anymore

691
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: at that point, I think I would just hang out. Now, Listen,

692
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: I love golf as much as anyone. You can only

693
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: play so much you get bored. But to have the

694
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: passion and the drive and the desire to still want

695
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: to get up every morning at five thirty or six

696
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: and come into the office like you got to respect it,

697
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: you really do. And he said something today when they

698
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: asked him. A reporter said, Bill, we're basically the same age.

699
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: So my question for you at this age, why do

700
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: you want to do this? And his response was, well,

701
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: it beats working when my dad, when I was young,

702
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: my dad told me, do what you're passionate about and

703
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: it won't feel like you work. And that's the best advice.

704
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: It's the advice I always give to anyone I've ever met,

705
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: because no matter what you do, Bill's not totally right

706
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: on that. Whatever you do, whether you're a musician, whether

707
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: you're a podcaster, whether you're you know, working in a

708
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: white collar tech job, and you love it and you're

709
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: passionate about it, and it means there are gonna be

710
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: elements of it that feel like work, that can become monotonous.

711
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: There are gonna be days where it's like, ah, don't

712
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: really feel it here. But still, when you love what

713
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 2: you're doing, you were that much more inclined to give effort,

714
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: extra effort, to be that much more determined to be successful,

715
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: to take that extra effort. And I have a lot

716
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: of respect for him doing this because he does not

717
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: need to do this. He's not doing this for the money.

718
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: I honestly don't think he's doing it for the ego.

719
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: I think he's doing it one because he loves football,

720
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: like you can't love anything anymore. I don't have children yet,

721
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: but the way you describe, and I saw it with

722
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: my parents toward me, like the way you love a child,

723
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: just unconditional, Like it's just it never ends and never fades,

724
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: and it's just a powerful connection that is not comparable

725
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: to anything else in your life. That's what Bill has

726
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: with the sport, and honestly, Mike Lombardi does too. Like Mike,

727
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: you're making a ton of money, You're doing all this

728
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: media stuff. Life's good. He loves working with his buddy

729
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: doing football stuff. It's gonna take way more time and

730
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: effort and just your life's gonna be turned upside down

731
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: in terms of working ninety hundred hour weeks, banging tape, recruiting,

732
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: bring guys to campus transfer portal. They just love it, man,

733
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: they really do. And I and I have a lot

734
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: of respect for that. And I guess I'll get you

735
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: out of here here on this. It is my fiance's

736
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: birthday tomorrow, and uh you gotta get her a present.

737
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: And she, you know, ever since she's got this, you know,

738
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: big real estate job, she's she's hobnominate with some movers

739
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: and shakers, and she's like, I need to get a bag,

740
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: like a bag. She's like, yeah, like a like a

741
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: designer bag because she has like an Amazon bag that

742
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't. I don't even know the difference.

743
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: A little out of the loop on this. I obviously

744
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: know and have heard about people with designer bags, but

745
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: it's just I've never had one. So she started showing

746
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: me kind of what she's interested. I'm like, what what

747
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: you want to Should we just buy like a jet

748
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: ski instead? And uh so I started doing some digging

749
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: and then in uh so, my fugazi here is if

750
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: you ever get in a position where you need to

751
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 2: you're thinking about getting one of these things. I've never

752
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: been to a consignment store. I guess I had since

753
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: I've moved to Arizona a couple times for like furniture,

754
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: but I had never been to one with like clothes,

755
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: like a high end one with clothes, jewelry and specifically back.

756
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: So I started doing some digging. I'm like, wait, they

757
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: have these. They resell stuff. And I went to this

758
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: consignment store and I started saying, listen, I don't know

759
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: what really I'm looking for. I just know that she

760
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: needs a tope bag, whatever the fuck that is. Can

761
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 2: you help me out? Can we help you out? Come? Look,

762
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: and they just have walls. Now this Paradise Valley, high

763
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: end place in Arizona, like where the house Kingsbury was in.

764
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: I think Kyler lives there now JJ Watt And I'm

765
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: just like, this is exactly what you's looking for. I

766
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: see the price. I'm like, I get like four of

767
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: these for the price of half of the real one.

768
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: Why would I buy the real one? Now, some of

769
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: them a little used, but I found a couple that

770
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, this one, it just sat in

771
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: this lady's closet. She never even opened it. She had

772
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: like seven hundred of them. Like how much that price?

773
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: They're like five hundred bucks, eight hundred bucks. I mean

774
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: the price is for the new ones. I mean you're

775
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: talking thousands of dollars for a back. Now, in fairness,

776
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: She's like, what do you want for your birthday? I'm like,

777
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: Scottie Cameron Putter, and you know, the thousand dollars Putter,

778
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: but still, I mean thousand dollars, I could have bought

779
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: five Scotti Cameron Putters for the price of a back.

780
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: But I guess girls like bags and consignment stores. They

781
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: had so much other stuff. I might go back and

782
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: shop for my mom people in my life for Christmas

783
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: because it's an incredible deal, it really is. So I

784
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: don't know if that's necessarily for Gazi because listen, the

785
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: price of the Louis and the Guccheese and the Pradas

786
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: and all that. The price of the price they don't do.

787
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: There's no cyber Mondays or you know, Black Fridays in

788
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: those stores, which I respect. But then you go, it's like,

789
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: this is the same bag, this person might have used

790
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: it for six months, and it's a quarter of the price.

791
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not mister cheap, but I also just like, well,

792
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: why wouldn't I just buy three of these for like

793
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: a one thousand dollars And that's what I did. So

794
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: we'll find out if she likes it. Maybe she'll throw

795
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: him back in my face because they got you know,

796
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: there's a couple of marks we had to buffer out,

797
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: but ultimately I feel like I did pretty well. Okay,

798
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: back at it again with my main man, Stucky on

799
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: the day that Belichick who will hold his press conference

800
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: a couple of days away from Belichick's favorite program, NFL

801
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: or College Navy playing Army, and I know Stuck he's

802
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: a junkie for that game. I saw it opened up

803
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: a little like around forty. It's last I checked. It

804
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: was I think like thirty eight and a half. All

805
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: lines presented here by DraftKings. This has to be I

806
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: bet you have this. That is this? When's the last

807
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: time these two teams combined for nineteen wins coming into

808
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: a game. This has to be one of the better

809
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: versions of both teams playing in this game in a

810
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: long long time. I feel like at minimum one of

811
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: the teams usually have three or four wins coming into

812
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: this game. Definitely recently, right, Yeah, I don't know.

813
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: Let's see. Yeah, it's the most combined wins ever.

814
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago they were both terrible.

815
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, first time since twenty seventeen of both teams have

816
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: already clinched Bowls, and first time since twenty seventeen. The

817
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: Commanders and Chiefs Trophy is at stake. It's the highest

818
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: total since twenty nineteen. But yeah, this is the most

819
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: combined wins in one hundred and twenty fifth version of

820
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: the Army Navy Game. Army. If they win, they'll win

821
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: their twelfth game of the season, which would be the

822
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: most in program history. Uh. Historic game. Always catch it.

823
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: I used to go. My dad used to bring me

824
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: growing up when it was at the the Vet in

825
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: Philly and Uh.

826
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: I went to the Link I think in twenty ten,

827
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: I think it was. It was pretty cool.

828
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the I think it would have been the Vet.

829
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: And when I was Army, I remember one time, I

830
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: mean I was very very young. We had a We

831
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: were sitting in a section where Bill Clinton came. So

832
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was president I must have been like eight

833
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: nine ten, Uh, and we had Secret Service had to

834
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: come and check out our section, and then he came

835
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: and sat down. Uh. That was pretty wild to see

836
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: as a kid. But yeah, I always love this game.

837
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: If there was a game that would go over. The

838
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: past two have gone over, actually, but like one was

839
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: in overtime or like two of the past three. One

840
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: one was in went to overtime to go over, and

841
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: the other was on like the last play of the game.

842
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: This game historically has been un I mean just a

843
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: pure underfest. I mean since two thousand and five, unders

844
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: between Service academies are forty six, eleven and two. And

845
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: now the market has adjusted, markets adjusted these types of things.

846
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, like the last couple years, the totals would

847
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: close it like thirty three, and they never would like that.

848
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: Before you go back ten fifteen years, you were totals

849
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: in the forties, some totals in the fifties. Market's much

850
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: more efficient now people have people still struggle to model

851
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: these teams just your your traditional model army, and the

852
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Service academies don't really fit into them. They have like

853
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: they're you know, the their yards per plays very low,

854
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: but they're fine with getting like two to three yards,

855
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: are going to go ford lot on fourth ounce, They're

856
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: going to chew up the clock. But just the familiarity,

857
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: which is what their advantage is in other games because

858
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: other teams they don't get the best athletes, they don't

859
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: get the five stars. To what their advantage is they

860
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: have a unique scheme and more college teams as we

861
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: you know that we talked about this all season as

862
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: the top kind of the talent condenses and we're going

863
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: to get more parody. The bottom is going to start

864
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: to fall off more. And with that, I think you

865
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: have to some of those teams should consider having unique

866
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: schemes and unique offenses because then teams aren't preparing for

867
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: you for that type of offense on a weekly basis.

868
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: So that's their strength, but when they go up against

869
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: each other, they don't have that advantage. You're playing against

870
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: the defense that plays against a similar type of offense

871
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: every single day in practice. The coaches know you know,

872
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: and plus the coaches know what to look for, how

873
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: to coach them up. And then these are generally very

874
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: disciplined I mean service, catties, discipline and teams, and that

875
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: is eighty percent of defending an option attack. Now they're

876
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: they're a little more advanced. Their offense isn't than they

877
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: have been in the past. This isn't just your standard

878
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: handed off, full back dive, fake full back dive run

879
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: outside for the option. They're a little bit more advanced.

880
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: So if there was a game that would just fly over,

881
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: it will be this one. But it's against my nature

882
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: to bet the over in these games. I wouldn't fault

883
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: anyone for doing it. But I have a good friend

884
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: who's heavily invested in the over and I'll probably be

885
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: trolling him if it's seven to three at the half,

886
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: like I told him. But I'm looking forward to this

887
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: one for sure. The Davis like maybe it gets the seven.

888
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: The lot that's too high because again the familiarity, it

889
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: should be lower scoring. This army just crushed tu Lane.

890
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: I think they're the better team, but again the familiarity,

891
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: like just this be close and it should be lower scoring.

892
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: So I'm waiting to get a seven with the Navy.

893
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: The Davis Blue Devils. Where I went to high school,

894
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: we ran the Delaware rind Wing te So I got

895
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: a special place in my heart for you know, the

896
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 2: twenty eighth sweep and the the thirty one full back

897
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: trap belly. They call it belly Belly Belly. Yeah, yeah,

898
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: we run some of that. Uh So you know what's

899
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: funny is like, even when I was at Fresno State

900
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: and Pat Hill ran a pro style offense, he still

901
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: had caught, you know, in the run game because they're

902
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: just they love running. The had run game concepts based

903
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 2: in pro style offense with belly and the trap and

904
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: you know the sweep. It's it's all interconnected. You know,

905
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: these guys are such fucking junkies, but in.

906
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: Some of it and everything in football is cyclical, Like

907
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: you're starting to see all those concepts come back into

908
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: the NFL.

909
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

910
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: As everyone evolved in like catching up to passing and

911
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: how to defend spread and pass. You know, you're seeing

912
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: these teams that again have unique running schemes that can

913
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: move the ball in different ways and it's always a

914
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: capt and mouse game. So everything in football forever will

915
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: always be cyclical in that sense.

916
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, before we dive into some of these, we have

917
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: some really good games this weekend, actually on Sunday because

918
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: Saturday doesn't really exist beside the one game. But you

919
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: have a unique perspective because you know, you live in

920
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: I think what could be argued like the number one

921
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: college basketball era area in America that Indiana, North Carolina.

922
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: It'd definitely be in the conversation for us. You know,

923
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: I think if you just pulled sports fans, Kentucky would

924
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: be have a strong, strong argument to be number one.

925
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: But the football program a couple of years ago has

926
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: had some moments. Obviously, they have one of the Stoops Brothers,

927
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: who's pretty polarizing, but it's not apples to apples with

928
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: North Carolina. I think you would agree because the SEC

929
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: is harder, like he is playing Georgia. See now the

930
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: No Division's bam. It's just way more difficult than playing

931
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: even Mario Crystal Ball ain't exactly Jimmy Johnson. So when

932
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: you when it became final, what was what were your

933
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: thoughts as just a college football junkie. Somebody follows this shit,

934
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: somebody's probably bet on and against North Carolina, you know

935
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: the ACC. Well, what are your thoughts on Belichick going

936
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: to North Carolina?

937
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: I was number one. I was just shocked. I didn't

938
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: see it coming. And my thoughts are it could either

939
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: really work really well or just be a complete disaster.

940
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: And how you know, kids are going to respond to them,

941
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: how he handles the kids, and that's a big uncertainty.

942
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: I think what we'll you know, because at the end

943
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: of his career he started to lose his fastball a

944
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: bit in terms of you know, I mean the drafting

945
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: fell off, but just special teams, game management, like a

946
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: lot of those things fell off. So I think, what

947
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: is going to determine if he ultimately succeeds is who

948
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: he hires as his coordinators and fills out his staff.

949
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna go a long way because I

950
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: think another thing that happened to him at the end

951
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: of the his error in New England. I mean, you

952
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: obviously lost Brady, but he was he was too loyal

953
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: to certain guys and that we're on his staff, and

954
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: then he was responsible and him and Brady were responsible

955
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: for most that success. You saw the guys that would

956
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: go elsewhere, so but he was too loyal to certain

957
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: guys that were so like is he is? Is Matt

958
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Patricia gonna be the OC?

959
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: Like?

960
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: You wouldn't want that, So I'm curious to see. I

961
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: assume he's gonna would you want him as your DC?

962
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna bring in his son who as

963
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: his DC, who I think did a really good job

964
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: at Washington and is pretty sharp, So I think that

965
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: would be a good move. And I think he wants

966
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: like his son to be the successor at UNC as

967
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: the head coach, but which I don't know if I

968
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: can see Steve being a head coach, but you never

969
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: know how those things work. I think he would be

970
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: a good DC hire, the OC hire is going to

971
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: be really important. And then obviously it's all about managing

972
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: the portal somewhat recruiting. How's all that going to shake out?

973
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's not College is so much more now

974
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: than just Okay, here's our team, and here's going to

975
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: be our game plan and the x's and o's, like

976
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other stuff that goes into it.

977
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: So his staff is going to be so he has

978
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: like an R he can just go like, hey, I'm

979
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: Bill Belchick, come play for me. I have connections in

980
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: the end. Right, he can sell that very easily. But

981
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: I think his staff how he fills that out is

982
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: going to be uber critical. But it'll be fascinating to

983
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: watch for sure.

984
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: What would you say the coaching staffs he's going up against? Uh,

985
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Mario is pretty big scam artist

986
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to just out coaching.

987
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: You clearly doing well.

988
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Elite. Yeah, he's elite. Like Belichick would die for Mario

989
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: to be like his number three, right recruiting given bags

990
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: be his on line coach, Like he needs guys that

991
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: is big in college football, Like he can't just bring

992
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: Josh Patricia even Steve like he's gonna need some like

993
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: college football hustler recruiters, like there is a balance on

994
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: a staff more than the NFL. Like the NFL ideally

995
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: all your position coaches and coordinators to just scheme guys.

996
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: In college, there's a lot of guys making seven figures

997
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: or high or high six figures because they can recruit

998
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: and interact with high school kids and coaches.

999
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I think, And that's it's a great point.

1000
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: I think that like pat Patricia ain't resonating with people

1001
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: like he's to me, that's one for Bill, It's like

1002
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: I just I'd pivot on that one, but he's not

1003
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: going to Patricia's gonna come.

1004
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm also curious just how much weight and gravity does

1005
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: he have in terms of recruiting. So a lot, I

1006
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: would assume, so, but I'm not, you know, I'm not eighteen, right,

1007
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Like so like Bill Belichick, how much old does he

1008
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 1: still does he have with an eighteen year old now?

1009
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a lot, but how much?

1010
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: Right?

1011
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: How many more of those for potential five stars can

1012
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: he get because of who he is? And because it.

1013
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: Does it matter now with money?

1014
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I think it's it matters a

1015
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: little bit, but not as much. But yeah, you got

1016
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: you gotta manage the portal, you have to you have

1017
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: to do all those other things like crystal ball. You

1018
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: also still need to to manage the game, prepare your team.

1019
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a fine balance. And he can't

1020
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: treat the the players the same way. I mean, maybe

1021
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: he can because he's Bill Belichick. I mean Saban would

1022
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: just you know, he would lose his lady run it

1023
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: like a military. But you know, they're kids, not adults,

1024
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: And how is he going to manage the difference? There's

1025
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: it's not the same. So I just think it's going

1026
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: to be a fascinating watch to see how it all

1027
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: plays out. But I'll definitely be watching his staff for sure,

1028
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: and how he fills that out because I think that'll

1029
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: go a long way and determining where.

1030
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: This goes one thing will be interesting. I think you

1031
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: said this is like people forget that Alabama the last

1032
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: couple of years has been a little shakier, you know,

1033
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: in terms of some of the nuts and bolts of

1034
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: penalties and stuff. And I do wonder, you know, part

1035
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: of what Nick had advantage of. He's obviously, you know

1036
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: one of the rare college defensive guys who's just an

1037
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: elite Belichick level schematic guy. But he was also getting

1038
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: the best players well pre transfer portal. By the time

1039
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: most of those guys started, it took them a year

1040
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: or two in the program. Before they started. He had

1041
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: two or three four years with everybody, and then once

1042
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: transfer portal started happening, you don't get as much time. Well,

1043
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 2: part of Belichick's whole thing, the reason he always said,

1044
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: like he would take I'm just gonna use this example

1045
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: Cole Strange. You know guys that aren't as talented. He's like,

1046
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: why the fuck you drafted that guy? Because he thought

1047
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: they were smart and they could learn his complex stuff.

1048
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: So like, well, you're getting guys coming in and out

1049
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: the complexity of everything they do, like what Josh McDaniel's

1050
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: thing was, Patriot offense is really hard. Only Brady can remember.

1051
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: Gronk used to be like, Tom, you got to calm down.

1052
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: No one can understand what you're saying. You're speaking chineseier

1053
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: and that to me, like now, Belichick at his core

1054
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: is a teacher. He obviously understands that. But that's gonna

1055
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: be a challenge of like the balance of how much

1056
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: you can give kids they might only be in your

1057
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: program for a year or two. Right, yep, Yeah, that's

1058
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: a fascinating Yeah.

1059
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: Maybe part of the saving thing also was just you

1060
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: lose your fastball. I think they're like the same age,

1061
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: they're like seventy three. So you can't do as much

1062
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: as you used to be able to do. You're probably

1063
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: not as sharp as you used to be. So again

1064
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: that comes back to your staff and who you hire

1065
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: and who's around you, which is what I think it'll

1066
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: come down to. But there's there's so many layers to it,

1067
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: and it'll be a fascinating watch and fascinating win total

1068
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: and everything to talk about because in this era of

1069
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: college football, we saw it this year. Look at Indiana

1070
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff. There's so much variance year

1071
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: to year with these teams. A team like Ohio, how

1072
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: it was bottom five in returning production in the on

1073
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: offense and defense, lost pretty much everyone. They lost Rourke,

1074
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: their quarterback to Indiana, led into the playoff. His team

1075
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: lost everybody. They won the MAC. I mean they were

1076
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: picked as one of the worst teams coming in to

1077
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: the season. There's so much variance in a year to

1078
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: year basis, So you can you grab a certain number

1079
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: of players, you make a coaching higher change that works

1080
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: out ten wins. You can find yourself in the College

1081
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: Wall playoff discussion. Is it the ACC like it's not like,

1082
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: yeah sucks. Yeah, it's not the SEC.

1083
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: It sucks. And their biggest advantage Florida State in Miami

1084
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: doesn't exist if he's got twenty million dollars to pay people,

1085
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: as they say that, they're going to fill his nil

1086
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: coffer up.

1087
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, the money that's not going to watch.

1088
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: How much money do they have to play with because

1089
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: that's because it.

1090
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have made as much since ten years ago. Right,

1091
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: going up against Miami in Florida State, you're a too

1092
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: big of a disadvantage. Well, now you go, I can

1093
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: buy more players, Dawn I said recently. Right, we're gonna

1094
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: have more money moving forward.

1095
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And another thing to keep in mind, just

1096
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: because it is Bowl season. I'm sure we've talked about

1097
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: more of these in the College Wall Playoff games in

1098
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: future episodes, But certain coaches care more about balls than others,

1099
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: and as you might imagine, crystal Ball not one of them.

1100
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: Because what does crystal Ball care about recruiting, filling out

1101
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: the road? What do you think he's Do you think

1102
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: he's spending time on the game plan for Iowa State

1103
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: over the next weeks? Probably not, And crystal Ball has

1104
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: not been good. Let me say he's two six and

1105
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: one I think against the spread in bowl games. So

1106
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: it's all about what's that he says he's gonna play. Now,

1107
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: this is a fascinating to there's gonna be like in

1108
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: recent years, the only top five picks, like projected top

1109
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: five picks that I can remember playing. I'm sure there's more,

1110
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: it's just off the top of my head, but I

1111
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: remember Alabama, Bryce Young and Will Anderson both played in

1112
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: the Bowl when the exting was like, yeah, they're not

1113
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: going to play, and everyone was betting against them, including me,

1114
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: and then they ended up playing this year. But if

1115
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at all like the quarterbacks,

1116
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: the top five that you set out if it's a

1117
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: meaningless but not if it's a playoff game. But this

1118
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: year you have like all of these guys are saying

1119
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: they're going to play, and you know the Colorado Dion

1120
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: came out. He was taking a little shot at Florida State.

1121
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: He says, you know, we don't opt out, and I

1122
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: have to see our program greater the next year. But

1123
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: he says, like Shador and Travis Hunter are gonna play

1124
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: like they're projected top five picks. Cam Ward comes out,

1125
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: I think it was on a zoom call with Dean

1126
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: says he's going to play. Now, all this stuff is

1127
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: kind of new. I don't know if there's so the

1128
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: sample size isn't great, but I don't know if there's

1129
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: number one, it could change. There are any agents could

1130
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: get to them and say please don't play, But there

1131
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 1: also could be they also could just play a little

1132
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: bit and then not and then come out of the game.

1133
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: But there also could be like nil deals tied to

1134
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: not opting out, so a couple million dollars. I don't

1135
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: know if it would be like pro rated or what.

1136
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but I've read rumblings

1137
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: of that. I don't I don't know how the contracts work,

1138
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: so there could be other things at play. But it's

1139
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: very surprising that if you look down the board at

1140
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: all of like the top quarterbacks, it looks like most

1141
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: of them are going to play. I'll be curious, and

1142
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: so I'll be curious to follow that and how it

1143
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: plays out because they're ha been guys before that said

1144
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna play and then agent gets in their ear

1145
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: and they end up sitting out. Like I think Marvin

1146
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: Harrison was trying. He was hurt, but he was like

1147
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: said he was gonna play, but you know, he didn't

1148
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: end up playing. There's most of the guys recently have not,

1149
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: but it looks like this year some of the top

1150
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: guys are going to play. It'll be very interesting to watch.

1151
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: I have a tracker that I spend countless hours on

1152
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: every single day following injuries, coaching moves, portal movement, opt outs,

1153
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: you name it. For every single bowl game. You just

1154
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: go to my Twitter profiles in there at Stucky two

1155
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: because it's it's like a full time job monitoring all that.

1156
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: So if you're betting the bulls, check that out because

1157
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: literally every hour there's someone going into portal, someone saying

1158
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna opt out something. I mean, it's it's insane.

1159
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes coaches leave, right Assistant coaches like a linebacker

1160
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: coach or a coordinator might just take an upgrade a

1161
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: job and they leave before the Bowl game.

1162
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's yeah, that's important.

1163
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: I give you a lot of credit. I don't know

1164
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: how you even track that. That's a lot of shit

1165
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: going on. It's not like there's thirty two NFL teams.

1166
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: There's how many Division one teams?

1167
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's well, there's eighty teams. The track. The good

1168
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: thing is you can remove the playoff teams. There's more

1169
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: playoff teams now because you know that everyone that's gonna

1170
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: stay and play. But yeah, you're talking like around seventy

1171
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: teams that you got to follow. It's a lot of

1172
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: work that the head coach is a really interesting. Teams

1173
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: that haven't had a head coach over the past two cycles.

1174
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: They've gone zero to nine in bowl games, I think

1175
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: two and seven against the spread. And it's not like

1176
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: they've lost, they've gotten blown out like Perdue LSU two

1177
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: years ago. Syracuse last year lost forty five nothing to

1178
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: South Florida, and I think part of that again not

1179
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: the biggest sample size, but I mean there's count all

1180
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: most of those examples. The teams just got ran off

1181
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: the field. Oregon State last year if they lost Jonathan

1182
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: spi notre En didn't even play anybody and just but

1183
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: I think what happens is once a coach leads, you're

1184
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: most likely going to have a lot more opt outs

1185
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: and there's not what's the incentive to play. You're gonna

1186
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: have a lot more guys hit the portal even before

1187
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: the game starts. In the betting market, you're probably gonna

1188
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: have a lot more guys that the betting market didn't

1189
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: find out about that end up opting out. So, yeah,

1190
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: teams without a coach and like this year, I don't know,

1191
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: it's like West Virginia, Ohio and Jacksonville State actually play

1192
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: each other, so that doesn't really count.

1193
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: North Carolina have a go six and six.

1194
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, North Carolina is one of them. Freddy Kitchens is there,

1195
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: remember him? Uh, he's going to be their their interim coach.

1196
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 1: So I list all them out too. So there's that's

1197
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: definitely worth watching because over the past few seasons in

1198
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: this new era that UNLV although Cal's starting quarterback at

1199
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: the portal, their backup got hurt. Now they could be

1200
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: down to their third string. That game is wild Cows

1201
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: up to a four and a half point favorite, now

1202
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: down to one. I don't know what to make of

1203
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: that game.

1204
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: State. I heard about the cal quarterback. He's going to

1205
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: go to Miami.

1206
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's probably gonna get paid. And then, like

1207
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: the writings on the wall, you saw an hour before

1208
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: it was announced, his lead top receiver hit the portal.

1209
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: So you can kind of read some tea leaves. You're like, oh,

1210
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: there might be something coming here. Washington State's quarterback might

1211
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: hit the portal soon. Sam Houston State doesn't have a coach.

1212
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: They have.

1213
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't eleven twelve guys in the portal, but they

1214
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: say they're going to play. That could be like James

1215
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: Madison last year. They didn't cover when Signetti lost, but

1216
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: most of them ended up playing. So that because Sam

1217
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: Houston say new team FBS, they might be excited to

1218
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: play in a bowl. A team that might not is Marshall.

1219
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: I think Marshall has the most guys in the portal.

1220
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: The starters in the portal. Their coach left, they won

1221
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: the conference championship. Their coach left for Southern miss from Marshall.

1222
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: They he didn't get along with the program all there.

1223
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: Most of their starters are at the portal and their

1224
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: QB one, QB two, QB three, they're down to a

1225
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: couple freshmen. I don't know which one they're going to

1226
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: go with. Marshall could be a mess. They're playing Army.

1227
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: And one last nugget, I know I'm rambling. Service academies

1228
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: in bowl games usually a great bet. Reason for that

1229
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: they always show up. Motivation is not an issue of

1230
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 1: motivation in these meaningless bowl games is huge? Do as

1231
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: does the team care? Did they prepare? Do they want

1232
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: to be there? Who opted out? Service guds? Don't worry

1233
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: about it. You know they're going to show up. You

1234
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: know they prepared. You know they're going to care. And

1235
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: so seventy percent against the spread service academies in Bowl

1236
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: games since nineteen ninety and one of them, Army is

1237
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: playing Marshall.

1238
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know if this was true or not, but

1239
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: I saw on Instagram did Marshall again? I felt like

1240
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: this guy was making this up in the comments that

1241
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't quite true that every single guy on the

1242
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: team opted out or wind the transfer portal as basically

1243
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: because they wouldn't pay him. That's why the guy left.

1244
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: I note the deed, not that it matters because funny

1245
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: thing about the cow quarterback. Did you see the clip

1246
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: when they beat Stanford like second or third of the

1247
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: last week of the season that went viral of him

1248
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: going died on the field. My guys, it was an

1249
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: incredible moment. I heard on like Wednesday or Thursday of

1250
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: the next week, and this this happens a lot. I

1251
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 2: guess college football people know this. That he just goes

1252
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: up to Willcox again after one of the more viral moments,

1253
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, God, the passion, this is why we love

1254
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: and looks at Willcox and says I'm sick, which is

1255
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: the new I'm fucking out of here. So it's like

1256
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: we live. I'm not taking I guess that moment was real,

1257
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: but how could it be real if he already he

1258
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: already knew he was leaving. Surely it's like this is

1259
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: good luck Bill. This is a crazy world where you

1260
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: just go up to Wilcox. This is this is like

1261
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: a fifty year old guy and just like, I'm sick.

1262
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: It's completely it's gonna lie. He's not sick at all.

1263
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: And then he's now in the transfer portal and he'll

1264
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: be with Mario, so it'll be interesting. Maybe Bill's gonna

1265
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: lie it. My take is that it's kind of like

1266
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: Silicon Valley. Probably twenty thirty years ago when even the

1267
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: government didn't know. There are no fucking rules. And what

1268
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: has Bill always done push the rules? Why does he

1269
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: always hate Park Avenue because they were the ones they

1270
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: were like the government, he fucking hates that. He wants

1271
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: to just let me cook. Well, the college football it's

1272
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want.

1273
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was always finding like the little.

1274
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: There are no little poles because there are no holes.

1275
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: It's wide open.

1276
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's really with Mendoza. It's something I'm gonna

1277
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: have to watch, Like in that final weekend teams that

1278
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: are already boy eligible with quarterbacks because I had no idea,

1279
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: No one had any idea. The line didn't even move

1280
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: that Mendoza was out, Like this wasn't announced during the week,

1281
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: probably just sat out, know on's going the portal. Wilcox

1282
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: then comes out four days ago and says Mendoza will

1283
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: be back next year. But yeah, obviously he's not. He

1284
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: and he went to Columbus High School in Miami, so

1285
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: he's gone. That would make sense. But yeah, and that's

1286
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: one to watch. They could be down to the third

1287
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: string because their backup got hurt, so that that that

1288
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: game versus UNLV. I don't know where UNLV's had at.

1289
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: They were playing to go into a playoff. Now you

1290
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: lose your coach, your OC is gone and be gone.

1291
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: That's that's why would you take the Purdue job?

1292
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: Is that that much better than UNLV? In this nil

1293
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: Era got paid. It's big.

1294
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: I assume it's just money.

1295
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: Uh that's probably give million bucks.

1296
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like the John Summer is a really good coach

1297
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: at Tulane. I think he's eventually gonna get an SEC job.

1298
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: He was rumored to be going anywhere, and he actually

1299
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: signed an extension with Tulane. He was asked like are

1300
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: you going? Are you're going? He said, look, I don't know.

1301
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: I want to stay. But if your newspaper offered another

1302
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: newspaper offer, talking to the reporter offered you three times

1303
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: as much money, you're you're probably gonna really consider it

1304
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: and maybe take it. That's a lot of times that's

1305
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: all it comes down to. So yeah, I I assume

1306
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: that it's money. But that's a tough job, and you

1307
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: can like you have to. The Ohio coach Tim Alvin

1308
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: went down to Charlotte. You that, I mean, Charlotte has

1309
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: not been good and there's more resources. You probably got

1310
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 1: paid more. You're down in the South for like recruiting,

1311
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: but the floor is so much lower. Like at Ohio.

1312
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: You can field your team that's going to be decent.

1313
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: You just won a MAC championship. The floor and you

1314
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: can just flame out and that could happen. Ryan Walters

1315
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: was a hot coordinator name and you know at Illinois

1316
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: and helped that he had you know, all he did

1317
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: was run cover one. He had three defensive backs playing

1318
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: the NFL in one year. But he goes to Purdue.

1319
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: They I mean, they just don't have the resources. And

1320
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: then you're competing in the Big Ten and you get

1321
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: and you're gone in a year or two, and then

1322
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: where are you? I mean, so, I I mean odom is.

1323
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: He's not a he's like fifty years old, forty yeah.

1324
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: So it's not like he's just probably trying to get

1325
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: as much money as he can. He's forty eight, and

1326
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: then if it doesn't work out, it'll go be like

1327
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: an coordinator at Arkansas so well. But yeah, those are

1328
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: definitely interesting decisions. But I'm assuming that he's just a

1329
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: money money decision.

1330
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the state that's near and dear

1331
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: to your heart with two teams that are a pretty

1332
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: big deal in that state, both two of the bigger

1333
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: NFL brands, The Eagles are on a night there went

1334
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 2: away from the longest winning streak in the history of

1335
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: the franchise. Yet this week got weird, and it got

1336
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: weird fast when Brandon Graham basically admitted they don't like

1337
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: each other anymore. And it's like, you can roll it

1338
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: back all you want. You said what you said. You've

1339
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: been with the team for literally fifteen years, you know,

1340
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: And that was a big selling point. Remember when they

1341
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: traded for Ajs, those guys were boys, and they're clearly

1342
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: not anymore. And I from what I've heard, it's not

1343
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: just that Jalen's a hit or mispasser. I think there's

1344
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: some personality stuff and it kind of shows like I

1345
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: bet on the Eagles in terms of they were my

1346
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: pick just based on talent. You watch them, they're loaded

1347
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: with talent. I mean they are the offensive lines awesome,

1348
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: obviously adding Saquon, the receivers, the tight end. They're fucking

1349
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: defensive players. I mean Jalen Carter, he might be a

1350
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: wild card off the field, red flag when he is on.

1351
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean there's Larry Allen might with him. I mean

1352
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: he's a special special talent. Cooper Dejen the rookie corner.

1353
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: They have the stud But you know, you watch the Lions,

1354
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: it's like, this is this unit. It's like Jesus, guys

1355
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: love each other. Right. You watch the Chiefs and the Bills,

1356
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: it feels like much more of a team. Then you

1357
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: watch this squad. That's where this Tomlin five and a

1358
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: half to me seems a little outrageous. It'd be one

1359
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: thing if the Steelers were like a six and six team,

1360
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 2: like they've been pretty good. I thought that Russell played

1361
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: like his best game. Obviously Pickens wasn't playing, so the

1362
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: lollipop throws in. He made a couple throws in the

1363
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: red zone last week that was like, God, this is

1364
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: kind of Seattle russy and I don't know how they

1365
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: do it. But no team drafts pass rushers as well

1366
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 2: as them. I mean they got random white guys coming

1367
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: off the edge. You're like, who are these guys? And

1368
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: then obviously TJ. Watt, I think Cam Hayward. I mean

1369
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 2: you talk about a guy that rolled back the clock.

1370
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: Every time I watch them, he looks like really good

1371
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: for a guy that's thirty five, thirty six years old.

1372
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: I kind of like the Steelers to win this game, honestly,

1373
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: stucky definitely hammering them plus the points because I think

1374
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: Tom is a dog the Eagles, and you'd have to agree,

1375
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: like the Jalen there passing game is just off, and

1376
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: to me it's him because he's not a great pocket passer,

1377
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: so it's got to be the freelance plays outside the pocket,

1378
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: and those are just going to be hit or missing.

1379
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 1: The NFL, Yeah, and under pressure is numbers creator, which

1380
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers can get.

1381
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1382
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: Taking Tomin as a dog and he's the most profitable

1383
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,879
Speaker 1: coach in NFL history against the spread as an underdog.

1384
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: This year, they've been underdog five times. They've won all

1385
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: five outright. So this is your classic Tomlin spot along

1386
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: those lines. If you look at these Tomlin dog spots,

1387
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: the under has hit almost just as high as a clip.

1388
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: I like the under in this game. I think they're

1389
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: they're kind of related. What happened. One of the reasons

1390
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: why Tomlin his teams are so good as an underdog.

1391
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: He gets them off. He's like a Rale Rock coach.

1392
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: But he'll also play these games very conservatively, and I

1393
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: mean that's his nature anyway. But he's gonna rely on

1394
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: his defense. He's gonna rely on his special teams and

1395
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: keep the game close, and then what happens. They wattle

1396
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: strip somebody in the fourth quarter and then they'll get

1397
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: a short field touchdown and win the game. Like that's

1398
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: he just wants to keep the game when he knows

1399
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: he's overmatched as an underdog, keep the game close, don't

1400
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: lose it. Don't lose the turnover. They're the only team

1401
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: in the NFL the last seven years it hasn't lost

1402
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: a turnover battle in any season. They're one possession record

1403
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: over the past ten years of the past the NFL.

1404
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: So that, don't lose the game, don't turn it over.

1405
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have a ton of success

1406
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: on offense. The Eagles defense is peaking and it's and

1407
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,440
Speaker 1: it's real like they're young corners, the Fangio, it's a complexity.

1408
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: They've really picked up on it. But the corners that

1409
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: made the biggest difference. They're number one of the against

1410
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: the deep pass. There's no pickens. That's been the best

1411
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: form of the Steelers offense, the deep pass with Russell

1412
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: is intermediary.

1413
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: And wait, you don't think Pickens is going to play

1414
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: this week?

1415
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: No, I mean they said he was doubtful yesterday, so

1416
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: I doubt it. I mean, they're in a good position

1417
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: for the playoffs, they like, why push him? It sounds like,

1418
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: and I believe they have the Chiefs and Ravens coming up,

1419
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: which are bigger games in the grand scheme of things,

1420
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: So I don't think that he does play. So and

1421
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles run defense has been really good and trending up,

1422
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: so I don't think the Steelers is gonna have much

1423
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: success offensively, and they're going to play it close to

1424
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: the best. And but the Eagles are running as much

1425
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: as any team in the NFL by a wide margin,

1426
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: so clock's going to be running in this one. Neither

1427
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: team's particularly fast. And uh yeah, the Steelers defense, the

1428
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: run defense, I think can hold up against Barkley. They'll

1429
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: show up, they'll be hyped up, they can get pressure

1430
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: on Hurts and I'm just curious to see. The other

1431
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: thing is the Eagles can't score in the first quarter,

1432
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: which plays into the Steelers' hands. It's like, keep it close, right,

1433
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: just make this a grinder and They've been like the

1434
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: worst offense in the NFL. In the first quarter, they

1435
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: can't score. Their script has been so bad I am

1436
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: curious to watch, Like how does this Brown fall out

1437
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: lay out on the field? Does it throw off the offense?

1438
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: Are they trying to force balls to Brown to make

1439
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: them They came out and they said we need to

1440
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: get them the ball more so like they is it

1441
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: gonna throw off? Like what they're trying to do, and

1442
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: how that chemistry plays out throughout the game if he's

1443
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: not getting the ball. They said they squashed in a meeting.

1444
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to watch. But yeah, you can't go

1445
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: wrong with Tomlin as a dog and usually that's correlated

1446
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: with the under which I like.

1447
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 2: Here I saw like a social clip of Manginie saying

1448
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: like that's insane to say that out loud, like Kellen

1449
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: Moore just said that. My pushback would be once they

1450
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: work to get everything settled, Clearly they're going to try

1451
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: to feed their guy. So whether you say it or not,

1452
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: I think Mike Tomlin and Trell Austin with the mink

1453
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: of Fitzpatrick going over the defensive strengths and weakness as

1454
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: a game plan would go they're going to force feed

1455
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: this guy. I don't need to hear Kellen Moore Sirianni talk.

1456
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: The other thing is, you know, kind of nerdy football.

1457
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: How about the kicker matchup here? One guy is turned

1458
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: into Justin Tucker two point zero and the other guy

1459
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 2: is not very reliable right now, Well, Jake Elliott looks

1460
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: like Jake Moody right now.

1461
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean one of the biggest reasons the Steels.

1462
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: You're like getting a close game. I mean, you gotta

1463
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: like the Steelers. One guy he's a kick away from

1464
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 2: Are they gonna start booing them at the link?

1465
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has lost his kickers. They lose, they lose

1466
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: it mentally. It's gone, at least for that season. And yeah,

1467
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: Elliott looks even his makes look shaky, and he was

1468
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: automatic last year. But if you look at the division,

1469
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: Steelers are ten and three, Ravens are eight and five,

1470
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: the Bengals are five and eight, the Browns are three

1471
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: and ten. Everyone's lost close games. They're a lot kicker

1472
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: problems except the Steelers. The Steelers have had arguably the

1473
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: best kicker in the NFL this year in Boswell, in

1474
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: one of the toughest stadiums by the way to kick

1475
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: in with some of those swirling wins, especially on one

1476
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: end of the field. But the Ravens I think have

1477
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: lost their games by a total of twenty two points

1478
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: and in their losses, and I think that's the amount

1479
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: of I think Tucker's messed like twenty one worth of

1480
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,520
Speaker 1: field goals twenty one points in those games. The Browns,

1481
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean every week they could they finally cut them.

1482
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: But Hopkins, I'm look at Hopkins last week missed a

1483
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: couple of field goals against the Steelers. The Bengals, I mean,

1484
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: big Pherson was shaky and now he's hurt, like it matters,

1485
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 1: and especially with the Steelers who want to play these

1486
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: close games, their kicking has been so much superior to

1487
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: everyone in the division, which might end up making the

1488
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: difference when it's all said and done, and get them,

1489
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: get them, put the Ravens in the wild card, which

1490
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: not many people thought coming into the season, but yeah,

1491
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: that could end up. That's something to watching this game.

1492
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: Tomlin would love for this to turn into a field

1493
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: goal battle where they would have the edge.

1494
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 2: I know he's injured right now, but the Chiefs post

1495
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill have played in a lot of tight games.

1496
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: Bucker's been pretty good for him. I mean, that's it mass.

1497
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: One another again. You look at why these teams if

1498
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: the best teams, the best one possession teams are the

1499
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: past ten years of the Chiefs and the Steelers. And

1500
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: part of that is coaching. Part of that is you

1501
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: don't turn it over, and part of that is having

1502
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 1: a reliable kicker. You're going to be in a close game,

1503
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: one possession game. You go kicker, Like, what's gonna happen

1504
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs Mahomes, They're down, Mahomes has the ball late,

1505
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: he's going to find a way to score, to get

1506
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: in the scoring range, and then Bucker is going to

1507
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: make the field goal. Now it's a little shaker. Now

1508
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: he's got matthew Wright who's been pretty good, but he's

1509
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: not Bucker who And so I mean the Chiefs luck

1510
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: this year is we talked about this La like you

1511
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: you want it to end? These games, don't They don't

1512
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: mean that much. I mean, I guess you can get

1513
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: it on the field, but man, every week they went

1514
01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,839
Speaker 1: on the last play the game on something crazy.

1515
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: Well think about this if you're the Chiefs, you know,

1516
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers mainly fall in this category. Two.

1517
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: If you're going to score, let's say feels like most

1518
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 2: games two touchdowns and kick, let's just give you a

1519
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 2: conservative two field goals. That is six points in field

1520
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: goals and two points and extra points that's eight points.

1521
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: So if you were to miss an extra point and

1522
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: a field goal, that's the difference between eight and four. Well,

1523
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 2: if you're only scoring eighteen to twenty points, that's a

1524
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: huge points. Yeah. So it's like they are relying especially this.

1525
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: You know, when Bucker is healthy and the Steelers like,

1526
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. I win nineteen to seventeen. Well,

1527
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: if that fucker misses his forty eight yard field goal,

1528
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 2: we lose the game.

1529
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Steelers too, like an important part of

1530
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: them getting like home games in a playoffs and cold

1531
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: and weather in that stadium in particular, like Boswell's unfazed

1532
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: by it. There are teams that won't attempt a fifty

1533
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: five yard field goal in that stadium on one side,

1534
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: especially if there's any weather, they'll punt. I mean for

1535
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: a long time, Justin Tucker led that stadium in fifty

1536
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: plus yard field goals. Didn't even play for the Steelers,

1537
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Boswall's clearly overtaking him now. But that's

1538
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: how hard that stadium is to kick. You get own

1539
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: playoff games. That's a major edge, like you said in

1540
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: the game, where two field goals could be a third

1541
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: of your points.

1542
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Bill's Lions. I think it's easy to look at

1543
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: that game, right. I think you can look at a

1544
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: twofold understandable. They just clinched the division. Coming across the

1545
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: Rams have been kind of shitty. All of a sudden,

1546
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 2: it looked like the Rams team that we saw at

1547
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: the end of the year last year. They were clicking.

1548
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: Stafford was humming, and they jumped on Merley and then

1549
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: Josh Allen turned in, Josh Allen, we got a game

1550
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: down the stretch. I think this is one of your

1551
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: feels like one of your classic spots where everyone overreacts

1552
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: a little bit and hammers the Lions. I mean the

1553
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: Lions early on in that game against the Packers, you

1554
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: had Jamal Adams a round out there on defense. I

1555
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 2: haven't looked at their injury report in the last day,

1556
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 2: but like they have a lot of guys that are

1557
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: legitimately injured, so I just think this is this is

1558
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 2: a spot where everyone thinks the Lions or you know,

1559
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: the seven Patriots, and obviously offensively they're pretty incredible, but

1560
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: I do think this this defense, it's one thing. You know,

1561
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: the Packers just play so shitty sometimes early in games.

1562
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: I thought they lost that Thursday night game in the

1563
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: first half when they had seven points, because in the

1564
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: second half they calmed down, they were scoring at will.

1565
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: It's like, well, if you fucking guys just had thirteen

1566
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: points in the first half, you're not stressing this game. Instead,

1567
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: it's like touchdown, touch down. You went back and forth

1568
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: in the second half. It's like you lost it by

1569
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: scoring seven points against freaking Jamal Adams in the first half.

1570
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: It was if I'm Aaron Glenn, like that is my resume.

1571
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: Just watch the first half with these random cats against

1572
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers on Thursday Night football, because like

1573
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: I like the Bills here plus two and a half,

1574
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: I do too.

1575
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see if there's a three that pops.

1576
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna wait. There's no sense in jumping in

1577
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: now at two and a half it goes to two whatever.

1578
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 1: It's much more detrimental than if you bet two and

1579
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: ethnic and you can get a three. Uh this look.

1580
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: I love the Rams last week. It was just a

1581
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: really good spot and Stafford was just on fire against

1582
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: the zone, which he tends to be. Bills are zone heavy,

1583
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: don't plan that's what you want to do against golf.

1584
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: If you play his numbers against Man, the lines offensive

1585
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: numbers mentioned this in previous weeks against Man. If you

1586
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: look at them compared to all other teams you have,

1587
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: you need like extra piece of paper if you graft

1588
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: them out. They're so much higher zone there like against

1589
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: zone there like the seventh eighth best offense in the NFL.

1590
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: Bills predominant zone team. Now they're gonna probably down one

1591
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: one of their starting corners in Douglas. It's had a

1592
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: down year, but that'll still be somewhat impactful. But yeah,

1593
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: I think that the Bills their offense. We talk about

1594
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: the Lions offense indoors, the Bills offense with Josh Allen indoors.

1595
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that scored five They've

1596
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: scored thirty plus five straight games. They played a bunch

1597
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: of those games outdoors, and they haven't had all their

1598
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: weapons this week. Fully healthy Kincaid full participant, Coleman full participant,

1599
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: they have everyone back. So this offense, if you look

1600
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: historically Josh Allen indoors. This includes his loss last week,

1601
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: in which they scored forty two points nine to two

1602
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: and one against the spread eighty one percent, covering by

1603
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: nine points per game. And if you and Allen is

1604
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: an underdog or favored of less than a field goal

1605
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven, fourteen and two against the spread sixty six percent.

1606
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: And this is when you want to fade these teams

1607
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,440
Speaker 1: that have a ninety plus percent win percentage, they look invincible.

1608
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Teams with a win percentage north of ninety percent in

1609
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: the month of December overall twenty one, forty eight and

1610
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: two against the spread, thirty percent against the spread since

1611
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: two thousand three. But I just think this Lion's defense,

1612
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: when you account for all the injuries, they are so

1613
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: ripe to get just absolutely shredded. They're playing very aggressive

1614
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: to make up for some of the injuries. They're blitzing on.

1615
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: They're playing a ton of man, single high go back,

1616
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: and look at the who the Lions have played this year.

1617
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: Name me an elite quarterback with a fully healthy offense.

1618
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Haven't faced one. I mean, you look at the Lions.

1619
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: Lions schedule. They've played now Jordan Love.

1620
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: You don't count Love last week.

1621
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: He's like in somewhat there. I mean, but the Packers

1622
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: put up what did they put up thirty when he

1623
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: was healthy? But I don't think he's not in the

1624
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 1: Allen tier quite yet, you know. But they played the Bears,

1625
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: the Colts, the Jags with Mac Jones. They played Stroud

1626
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: when he didn't have any of his receivers, and they

1627
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: really should have lost that game. They played a hurt Love.

1628
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: They played the Titans with Mason Rudolph, the Vikings with

1629
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 1: Donald He's playing well, but he's not elite, and the

1630
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: Vikings put up thirty, you know, so you look back,

1631
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: they haven't had to face an elite I guess you

1632
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: can go back to Stafford week one. But there's all

1633
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: his offensive line and Niko got hurt his offensive They

1634
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: were down to like their sixth center, and Hutchinson would

1635
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: had like eight sacks in the second half. The Bills

1636
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: offense fully healthy, and the way that the Lions are

1637
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: playing right now, you can get away with that against

1638
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: mid tier quarterbacks bad quarterbacks, but with you know, your

1639
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: single high playing man trying to blitz Josh Allen you're

1640
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: gonna get picked apart here. And also you don't want

1641
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: to play man against Josh Allen, he especially indoors. That's

1642
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: where I think the Bills at the edge of the

1643
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: Lions is Allen third downs, can run and get the

1644
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: first downs, which golf can't, and against man, his legs

1645
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: are super important. So I think it's would be a

1646
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: really close game. I think it's closer to a point,

1647
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: So give me the points. With Josh Allen indoors with

1648
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: a fully healthy offense against Lion's defense could be a

1649
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: little offier today, will be a big on the injury front,

1650
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: like McNeil could be back. Could get a couple of

1651
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: guys on the defensive line. Not sure about Reader, but

1652
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: they're heard at linebacker and I think the secondary is vulnerable.

1653
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I think the Bills bounce back here, a really important

1654
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: game for them if they want home field. They have

1655
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: the game up on the Chiefs lost last week. Chiefs

1656
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: don't have an easy schedule down the stretch. They'll need

1657
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: this one instead of the lines. I think it'll be

1658
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: good game, but just give me the points.

1659
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: Okay. Now to a team Sunday Night Football. They've won

1660
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: four straight games now two of them again been against

1661
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Kyler and the Cardinals, one of them was the Jets,

1662
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: and another was an impressive win against the forty nine

1663
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: ers who had some injuries. This team at home, I

1664
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 2: just looked at the weather. It's it's supposed to rain

1665
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 2: every day except Sunday, but it's cold, windy. The place

1666
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: is rocking to me. They basically got to win two

1667
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: of their last four. It almost feels like they would

1668
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 2: be a lock to be in the playoffs. They still

1669
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: have the but these next two games against and they

1670
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 2: finish with the Rams or against the Packers and the Vikings.

1671
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 2: So if they win one of these next two games,

1672
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about Seattle's chances to be in

1673
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs. This is a big spot for Jordan Love.

1674
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: On the road, it's just crazy environments. Every time I

1675
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: want to trust them, Like it gets back to the

1676
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 2: first half, it's like, well they start slow and then

1677
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: they start humming. Now, granted, like you said that that

1678
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: Detroit defense, It's like, what are we talking about last?

1679
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 2: This is a little different animal against the defensive coordinator

1680
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: that's gotten guys back and it's done a really good job.

1681
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: I kind of like Seattle underdog at home. Now, I

1682
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: get it, this isn't the lob Seattle Seahawks, but that's

1683
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: that's to me, seems like money line value there. Like

1684
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this Packer team, I've liked them, but the

1685
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: more and more like the season has gone on, like, yeah,

1686
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: maybe they're kind of in the same spot as last year,

1687
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 2: and they're maybe they're a year away from kind of

1688
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: getting closer to where they want to go, and this

1689
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 2: is more of a year like they might win a

1690
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 2: playoff game, they might be one and done, but they're

1691
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: not really a true Super Bowl contender. Not that Seattle

1692
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: is either, But what the hell is the difference. I'm

1693
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: taking the home team in a cold weather environment against

1694
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 2: you know, a young quarterback that you know just gives

1695
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: you bad halfs. He can he can turn it on

1696
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: for a half and look like Aaron Rodgers, but you

1697
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: just can't afford to win some of these games when

1698
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 2: you're fucking scoring no points.

1699
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind the Sealks here. I want to

1700
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: see I Kenneth Walker plays. I think he'll be important

1701
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: in this game.

1702
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: Now. I get they were playing you know, the Cardinals,

1703
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 2: but he's.

1704
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it'll help to have Walker too. I you know,

1705
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are interesting team because I think if you

1706
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: look at Gino's splits, he's so much better indoors and

1707
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 1: cushing environments. And we go back to that Atlanta game,

1708
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean all season, the offense is a better suited

1709
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: to be an indoor Go to the Lions game. I mean,

1710
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 1: they were scoring it will and they had offensive line

1711
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 1: injuries in that game, and they were a metcalfe fumble

1712
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: away from that game being like thirty five. All so

1713
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: their offense is built for like to be an indoor team,

1714
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: and because they can't, they don't run the ballica they

1715
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: have offensive line injuries, like Gino can move around where

1716
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: they have, they have good speed at you know, shifty receivers,

1717
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: you have Metcalf can go deep. So their offense is

1718
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: not built of like play where they play at this

1719
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 1: time of the year. So maybe they won't be hurt

1720
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: like by going into the playoffs and having to go

1721
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: on the road and playing you know, if they had

1722
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 1: to go play Minnesota or Detroit. Something worth donting because

1723
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 1: I think their defense can play anywhere, and but their

1724
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 1: offense doesn't look as good at home. So that that's

1725
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't mind the under here too. I think it's

1726
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: like high leverage game. The Seattle's offensive line still has

1727
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: some issues, their offense doesn't look good at home, but

1728
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: the defense is I still think undervalue. Their last two

1729
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 1: games have gone over but if you go back to

1730
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: the Jets game, there was a pick six, a kick

1731
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown, two muffed kickoffs that led to points,

1732
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: and then last week Kylot throws two that lead to

1733
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: two short field touchdowns. This Seahawks defense is legit. And

1734
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: it's McDonald. We've always talked about him. He's made isn't

1735
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: the necessary adjustments schematically to fit his team, But not

1736
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: only that, he's changed, He's fundamentally changed his team, and

1737
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: a lot some of it's just health. Defensive line was

1738
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: so banged up middle part of the year and the secondary.

1739
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you have multiple starters, but now so now

1740
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 1: not only are they healthy, but he changed some things.

1741
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: He got ray Sean Jenkins out of the lineup, who

1742
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: was terrible. Put Kobe Bryant in a free safety since

1743
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: Week seven, been a huge plus. That big, big upgrade

1744
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: of free safety also allows you to do more with

1745
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: your now healthy corners, linebackers. I mean, he was constantly shifting, cutting, trading,

1746
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: getting the guys that he needed in there. Linebacker a

1747
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: pretty important position in how he wants to disguise things

1748
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: more so than other schemes. He got his guys in

1749
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: there that he felt were the best fit. Coming out

1750
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: of the buy. It looks like he was right. Now

1751
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: they're defending the run well. Their secondary is healthy, he

1752
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 1: upgraded free safety. You have more flexibility with your corners

1753
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: who are now healthy, so that whole unit is trending up,

1754
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be ready here. Another thing to

1755
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 1: watch is the Packers could get let me see if

1756
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: there's an update that would help the under is the

1757
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 1: Packers secondary is their corners in particular are not really

1758
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: good when there's no gyr Auxander. But if he goes

1759
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: a second straight day of full participation, that helps them

1760
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: a lot. That allows that will allow them to do

1761
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: more things for an aggressive defense and will obviously be

1762
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: important for Metcalf. So you could get Alexander here, which

1763
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of upgrades the Green Bay defense. So I don't

1764
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: mind taking the home dog, but I also kind of

1765
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: like the under as well.

1766
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a decent chance we get this game

1767
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 2: in a month, right as the three to six. Yep, Yeah,

1768
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: because the Packers are I mean, I think are pretty entrenched.

1769
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 2: I feel pretty confident they're going to be the six, right,

1770
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: They're not going to be the seven, and now it's

1771
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: pretty tough after that Lions lost to be the to

1772
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 2: be the five, right given that, Whoever, however it shakes

1773
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 2: out between Minnesota and Detroit ends up the one or

1774
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: two and the five, and then the Eagles end up

1775
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: the one or two and Seattle. I guess the Rams

1776
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 2: we're recording this before Thursday night technically still win the division,

1777
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: but so you could.

1778
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Packers are if they they're like ninety if

1779
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: they're ninety eight percent to get in right now.

1780
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 2: Like the playoff, they're a playoff team, I mean they're in, yeah,

1781
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 2: and they're Vikings, Lions and Green Bay are in. Yeah.

1782
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Vikings probably gonna be your five, Packers or six, and yes,

1783
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Seattle is probably going to be your three. I mean,

1784
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 1: the Bucks have a really easy schedule, so maybe they

1785
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: could end up jumping them. But maybe the Commanders could

1786
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: jump the Packers, I guess, but uh.

1787
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: I think manager the leaking oil. We'll have to see

1788
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 2: how they look this weekend, because I could see them

1789
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 2: start losing some games.

1790
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that. You gotta remember the Commanders have

1791
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: an easy game this week, but then they have Eagles.

1792
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: Well then they also they have the Falcons at home

1793
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: than the Cowboys, so they could finish with ten ten

1794
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: wins pretty easily, even though I do think they're leaking oil.

1795
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: So but I think the Packers will eventually end up

1796
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: with the six. So yeah, this is most likely to

1797
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: be a rematch. But if the Seahawks win this game.

1798
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: If the Seahawks lose this game, yeah, then again the

1799
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: divisions back on the winner to the This will be

1800
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: out the day after. But whoever won the forty forty

1801
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: nine ers be right back in it. They beat the Rams,

1802
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: that the Rams win it, they're right there. So yeah,

1803
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: this is a huge game for the Seahawks and their

1804
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: chances at the division because they host the Vikings next,

1805
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: and then they close and then they get that they're

1806
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 1: at the Bears on a short week, which is not

1807
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,839
Speaker 1: an easy spot, and then they close at the Rams.

1808
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: So huge swing game for the Seawks.

1809
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Before I get Jetty or any other games, any other

1810
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 2: games you like, you like a little Raider money line

1811
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: upset against the Atlanta Falcons at home or is that

1812
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 2: a little too bold?

1813
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: I gotta see who's playing quarterback. They're saying, oh Conum'm like,

1814
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with that game. I

1815
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: mean the Falcon. I don't think Coustins is fully healthy

1816
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: right now, So yeah, why not? I did play the

1817
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Chargers minus two and a half, like you can find

1818
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: like a minus one twenty out there. I know Herbert

1819
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: has an ankle. I think we'll be all right. McConkie's playing.

1820
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 1: Bucks run as much zone as any team in the league.

1821
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: Herbert number one quarterback against zone, is the number one

1822
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: offense against zone. And the Bucks also don't have any

1823
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: safeties and Antoine Winfield and all Pro safety is out,

1824
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: so I like that matchup. Bucks also been getting lucky.

1825
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably gonna win that division. But if

1826
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: you look, they're five wins this year. Their last five

1827
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: wins Panthers and ot should have lost, Raiders, Giants with

1828
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: the veto, Saints with Rattler, and Eagles without two months ago,

1829
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Eagles without all their receivers and their offensive lineman. That's

1830
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: their last five wins. Opponents are also sixty percent on

1831
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: field goals. They've had twenty one fumbles, lost only five

1832
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 1: of them, so, and they've been really good in the

1833
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: red zone like a little two good Chargers red zone

1834
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: d is elite, and so I think this is a

1835
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: good matchup for the Chargers to bounce back, especially with

1836
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: mconkey in the lineup and then the ugliest one. I

1837
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: bet the Panthers is a favorite minus two and a half,

1838
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: minus one twenty it's going up to three. This is

1839
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: a horrible spot for the Cowboys season. Basically ended your

1840
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: more offensive line injuries, you lost over shown short week,

1841
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: gone on the road to play Carolina. They could come

1842
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,799
Speaker 1: out super flat here. Carolina still cares, They're playing hard.

1843
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 1: Bryce Young looks so much better and the only thing

1844
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys do well is to get pressure. Panthers

1845
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: have one of the best offensive lines in terms of

1846
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: pass direction, and Bryce Young under pressure has been really good.

1847
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: They easily could have beat the Eagles, Cheats and Bucks

1848
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: three straight weeks. You know, a drop pass a bad review.

1849
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 2: Panthers are hot, bro, They're hot. They're the hottest losing

1850
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 2: team in the league right now.

1851
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: And Cooper Rosh has been metrically He's been almost if

1852
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: you just look at EPA plus complete centers over explanation,

1853
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: almost as bad as Drew Locke since he took over,

1854
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: and over that time, Bryce Young statistically been like average,

1855
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: which is so much better than he's been and then

1856
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: like big time throw rate, he's the top five. He's

1857
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: hanging in there, he's smiling, looks like he's having fun.

1858
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 1: He's actually like yelling at the guys like it's a

1859
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: whole different person. Canalis like fixed his footwork and he

1860
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: just got confidence. He needed a couple of games playing

1861
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: well to just psychologically be okay in the pocket. And

1862
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: their defense is a bit underrated. It's still really bad,

1863
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 1: but they got healthier, Like you get wanting back, you

1864
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 1: get a bunch. They were so beat up early in

1865
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: the season. So I like the Panthers as a favorite,

1866
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: as crazy as that sounds me, I still think they're undervalue.

1867
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: That covered five straight.

1868
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 2: I like that, stucky. Well, let's watch the Panthers stay hot,

1869
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 2: less enjoy army Navy, and uh, we got a we

1870
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 2: got a good Sunday coming up, so we only got

1871
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: so many of these left, so we got a really.

1872
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,759
Speaker 1: Seven weekends after anyone.

1873
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't even want to hear

1874
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 2: that I don't even want. That includes playoffs.

1875
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is week fifteen, so after this

1876
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen eighteen Wildcard Divisional Conference super Bowl. So while

1877
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, we still have eight left, so

1878
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: I don't want to short change anyone. It goes quick,

1879
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: so enjoy, Enjoy every bet and every game that you

1880
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: have left.

1881
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon, A sucky Hi brother.

1882
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: The volume