1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. In this episode of Amy and TJ. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: He can fly a commercial airliner, he can run a marathon, 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: but for some reason, the brother King find love. Welcome 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy DJ. Yes, Robes, Now those things. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: I listed a lot of people who are certainly fans 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. Bachelor Nation folks will immediately know who 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about. But before we get into Piley, Pete, 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: what do you think about that idea? The idea of 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: flying a commercial airliner is wild to me and for 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: most people they think that running a marathon is impossible. 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Finding love? What has been the most difficult for you? 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: Wow, you really know how to tee it up. That 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: is a tough question. Are you a journalist? Yes, that 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: I think is the hardest of the three. I really 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: actually do think that really well. I do think my 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: parents will tell you they got lucky in love, and 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: I do think some people do, and kudos to them. 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: But I think for a lot of us that it 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: might be the hardest thing. I figured out my career 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: pretty quickly. I fell in love. I actually feel like 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: climbing mountains and running marathons is far easier than navigating 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: a lasting and true relationship really nice. I do think that. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: So it's not just the finding of the love, it's 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the maintaining of the relationship that's the difficult part. 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: I think we can all find love in the honeymoon 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: phase of things, things great. Aren't all of those habits 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: just sweet and cute and not annoying? And then time 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: starts to weigh on you and things get i don't know, 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: uninteresting or not exciting, and things actually become serious. And 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: that's the hardest part of it, right, I don't know. 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: But I've only been a relationship with you for two 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: years now. It sounds like you expect a very short 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: honeymoon period. 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, but it is inevitable, just like death, 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: and just like taxes, that kind of intensity cannot last. 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: And I think we all get hooked on the excitement 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: and the feeling of it. But the actuality of a 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: relationship that last, a partnership that lasts, isn't that the 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: hardest thing to find? 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: And with that, Peter wanh wah wah, I mean, what 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: the hell? Yeah? 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: I think I think Peter feels validated, validate all right, 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: Peter Webber in the studio, my man, good to have you. 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Of course, uh, pilot Pete as he's been known as 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: for so long, but of course a big, big part 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nation for so many years. And yes, an 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: actual pilot who is still flying planes. He might be 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: you might hear his voice at some point on one 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: of your planes. That is actually possible. He's also running 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon, his second one, that's coming 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: up here in a couple of days. My man, good 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: to have you a studio. How are you brother so much? 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: Yes, it's good to be here. I'm excited. It's fun. 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: If you guys have any love advice, I could definitely. 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: Use it, because, oh you want advice from us? 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love it what you guys got. 57 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: Actually, oh, I will say, Oh, no, I will. I 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: will say I have fallen in love and my first 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: love was fine. I'll be oh, yeah, I was lucky 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: to find it from a very early age. You know, 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: the love with another person. The aspects still work on that. 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: But do you think it's so funny you say that 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: because I have actually said the same thing. I fell 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: in love with my career. I loved my job. I 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: loved what I did in a way it allowed me 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: to have relationships that didn't need to rise to that 67 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: same intensity because I had that isn't that isn't that. 68 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: I know, I've done some major therapy and some analyzing 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: of myself, But I wonder if you compare the feeling 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 2: that you get from flying and the feeling you get 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: from your career to what you may expect from someone 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: in a relationship, and if that is attainable. 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: That's a great question. I mean, yeah, I would definitely 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: say that I feel. 75 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: I really do. 76 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: I feel extremely fulfilled from what I do and from 77 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: flying and just the passion that I feel that's been 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: instant for me from you know, the first day that 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: I saw an airplane and going on my dad's first flight. 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's actually kind of interesting because you 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: guys are just talking about the honeymoon phase and it 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: kind of like fading out naturally. And I've you know, 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: obviously I've had relationships in the past, and I know 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: what you're talking about with that. But one really cool 85 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: thing about my career and I tell people this all 86 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: the time, and I think why, I just am so 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: in love with it and who knows. Now, now you're 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: getting me to think, really like, maybe this is my 89 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: struggle and why I'm comparing too much the love I 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: feel for flying in my career so with another person. 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: But when I'm flying, every single time I take a runway, 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: I swear to God and I put my hands on 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: the throttle when we get our takeoff clearance, and I 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: feel that power go up and the throttles go up, 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: and you just feel the roar of the engines. It 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 4: is a high that never diminishes, and it's the exact 97 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 4: same high every single time. There is no honeymoon phase 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: that like has ever ended for me, and you know, 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: throughout the flight there's just amazing you know, sequences and 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: the approaches and the landings. It's actually interesting how to think. 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: I am so used to the honeymoon phase, not ever 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: fading with that. And it's different though with a you know, 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: a personal relationship. 104 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, Pete, I just heard you describe 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: everything that was in you your control. It was in 106 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: your hands, and when you're in love or you actually 107 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 2: are vulnerable, you have no control. And maybe that's what's scary. 108 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: I don't know why too deep. 109 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: This is groundbreaking here. 110 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I know we're going to get here at this and 111 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: you didn't know you were being charged three to fifteen 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: hour for this. 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: This is some good advice. No, but you know what, 114 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: that's a good point though, not. 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you make And she's always made this 116 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: point about folks in our industry in journalism, like you're 117 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: chasing some type of high a thrill and if you 118 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: get it here and this other thing doesn't live up 119 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: to that in some way. So what is your expect 120 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: How have you found in your relationship then that honeymoon phase, 121 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: the hand on the throttle, that rush, that that never 122 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: goes away there in your experience? How how long has 123 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: it taken for it to go away in your personal relationships? 124 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 4: Really, I would say probably, I don't know, probably around 125 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 4: that that year year and a half I think naturally 126 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: for me is one I've I've kind of noticed that. 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: But again, I'll be honest that, you know, maybe this 128 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: is just a fault of my own, but I haven't 129 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: really had too many relationships that have gone past that. 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: Like I would say my longest relationship with ever having 131 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: a break or a split has maybe been a year 132 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 4: and a half, like approaching two years. Not necessarily something 133 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: like I'm proud of it. That's just like the truth 134 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: and don't I guess really know exactly why that is. 135 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: But you really do have my wheels turning here because 136 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: I think maybe that's some internal work that I could 137 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: do on myself, and no, seriously apply that to my life, 138 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 4: because I think, yeah, maybe I have expectations that aren't 139 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: necessarily obtainable, and maybe that comes from a place weird enough, 140 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: from a career. 141 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: A lot of people can't see, but they can't see 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: you right now. Your wheels are spinning. I can see it. 143 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Everybody in this room can see. Oh yeah, I'm not 144 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: kidding this. Yeah, your wheels are spinning. As your wheels 145 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: are spinning. Is it possible to go back and now 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: look at those relationships you're on the spot here, some 147 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: previous relationships through a different lens. Is there any chance 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: that some of those previous relationships could have another shot 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: if you started to look at and think about those 150 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: relationships differently. 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't. 152 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Think that's a good answer. That's a good answer for me. 153 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: The ones that have ended, those are done. 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: But I can definitely take this moving forward and just 155 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: you know, keep that mindset and keep it in the 156 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: back of my head for sure. 157 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, not looking back. 158 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: And you're all just want to make it clear. You're 159 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: talking to two people who have four divorces between them, 160 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: so we know what it's like to have believed and 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: then realized and then made a mistake and had to 162 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: own up to it and then say, what can I 163 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: learn from it? I actually am somebody who believes that 164 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: there is no thing there's no such thing as a mistake, 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: because if you learn something from it, you could apply 166 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: it to the next phase of your life. Then that's 167 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: what needed to happen, because you were on a different 168 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: playing field than maybe someone else. 169 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: Is necessary you could be. 170 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: And I do, like we do, relate to loving a 171 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: career and to finding your passion there and then comparing 172 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: everything else to it. And actually, but I believed at 173 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: a certain point that nothing else could live up to it. 174 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: So I'm curious, what are you looking for when you're 175 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: looking for love? Like what would be? Could you describe 176 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: the perfect mate? 177 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: M That's a great question, you know, actually, real quick 178 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: you just had me thinking here something also with with 179 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: you know, my career and relationships too, And I think 180 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: the expectations I've kind of put on myself, I've also 181 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: like compared myself with also you know, lots of my parents, 182 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: my parents being a pilot flight attendant, having that. 183 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: Relationship and the way that all grew up. 184 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: I've almost like wanted to like kind of mirror that 185 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: in a way, and I like thought, just like the 186 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: world of it, and you know, what a beautiful story 187 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: and all that, And I think, maybe you know, that's 188 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: some pressure I've put on myself that you know wasn't 189 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: necessarily fair. But you know, in regards to what I'm 190 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: looking for with someone, honestly, the biggest thing is someone 191 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: that I could just be completely one hundred percent comfortable 192 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 4: in myself with and someone that I can have fun with, 193 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: someone that I you know, obviously they share the same 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: values and you know, a lot of the same beliefs 195 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: and all that. But at the end of the day, 196 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: it's it's not not this crazy answer that I have 197 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 4: like fabricated in my mind. 198 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Just like that that level of peace that you get. 199 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: From another human being and that comfort and just being 200 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: able to wake up every single day and just be 201 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: so grateful and thankful to have them in your lives. 202 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: Just looking for that feeling and I and I'm confident 203 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: and I know that I'll find it, and I'm never 204 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: gonna like rush it or pressure that at all. But 205 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: I think if they're if I you know, obviously we 206 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: all have flaws. I definitely think a flaw of mind 207 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: could be relinquishing that that sense of control. I've always 208 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: you know, felt that obviously being a captain for an airliner, 209 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: everything's in your hands and like you make all the calls. Obviously, 210 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: crew resource management, working with your team is is important, 211 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: and you know no one person is perfect all the time. 212 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: You need to rely on people. 213 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: But relinquishing that control and not feeling that need is 214 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: definitely I think something that could apply in my personal 215 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: life with relationships and something I could work on. 216 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 217 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: What do you think about the idea of finding love 218 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: on a reality show? 219 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: Well, you want to know why I did it the 220 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: first time? Sure, for the first time, I. 221 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: Guess we love to know you did it twice? Right? 222 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: Or yeah I did that? 223 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, technically two shows, but I remember so I had 224 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: seen an episode or a season. 225 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: Actually, it's funny going back to career. 226 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: My freshman year of college at Baylor University, and I 227 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: me and my roommate we had just made friends with 228 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: these two girls who were really like, you know, Bachelor 229 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: Nation really into the show. And Jake Pavelka, he's an 230 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 4: airline pilot ten years prior to when I was gonna 231 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: then do it, you know, ten years later, his season 232 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: was airing, and so they had invited us over to 233 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: watch the season with them. We do every Monday night 234 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: in the dorm rooms watching the whole season, and I 235 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: thought it was so cool. This guy's like living my dream. 236 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: He's an airline pilot and he's on the Bachelor. I've 237 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: never seen this show and I get introduced to it. 238 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, that's so freaking cool. Never 239 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: in a million years thought that would be me ten 240 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: years later, but it was a really cool introduction. And 241 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: then I think I was like twenty six. Twenty seven 242 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: is when I had gotten like a DM from a 243 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 4: producer for the show to like apply, and it kind 244 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: of just like went with it. I'd just gotten out 245 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: of a relationship and I'm like, all, this could be 246 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: kind of perfect time. And the main reason though that 247 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: I decided to say yes and I wanted. 248 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: To do it. 249 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: This may sound crazy, but I just thought that it 250 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: would have been such a like obviously reality TV can 251 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 4: be odd and can be tough, and there's a lot 252 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: of behind the scenes stuff that maybe isn't super super 253 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: organic like a normal relationship. But I thought, how cool 254 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: would be Like the hopeless romantic to me was like, 255 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: how cool it be to have your love story? Hopefully 256 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: it works out and it's successful, but if it is, 257 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: how cool would it be to have that entire story 258 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: documented and now have for you know, long after I'm 259 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: gone and generations way after me and everything be able 260 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: to look back and watch that love story, how it developed, 261 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: how it progressed, and what it became from that one moment, 262 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: and you know, all the generations after me could be 263 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: able to like enjoy that and appreciate that. 264 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: That's really sweet. 265 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: It didn't happen. 266 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: You did it for the grandkids that never happened. 267 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: I kind of thought it'd be something cool to do, 268 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: and yeah, sweet, that was That was honestly the main reason. 269 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: It's not like I was like completely convinced of his 270 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: reality TV that's how it's gonna find my person. But 271 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's a really unique kind of cool opportunity, 272 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: and I wanted to take advantage of it. 273 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: I'm curious, and I'm you sound like you're really good 274 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: at giving honest answers. So I love this knowing what 275 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: you know now. You did it twice. You saw the good, 276 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: the bad, all the headlines, all the fodder. People love 277 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: when you put yourself out there to take their shots 278 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: and have their opinions, and they're not always nice or kind. 279 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: Would you do it again? 280 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: I like, meaning like currently another season in the future now, No. 281 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: If you could go back, would you enter and be 282 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: a bachelor, be a bachelorette contestant, and then be the bachelor? 283 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, why I would go back. I wouldn't do 284 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: anything moving forward. 285 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: I won't do any like love type reality show moving forward, 286 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 4: but just going back if I could, if I had 287 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: my entire memory or race of what it happened or 288 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: everything and the outcome. I'm just the eternal optimist kind 289 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: of person and always just expecting the best thing to 290 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: happen tomorrow kind of thing. And so if I would 291 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: have gotten that opportunity to present it to me again 292 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: with never having done it one hundred percent, I would 293 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: have jumped on it just the excitement and I just 294 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: would have been convinced that this is gonna work for me, 295 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: and I can't wait. It's gonna be the adventure of 296 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: a lifetime type of thing. And I'm never scared of 297 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: putting myself out there and taking chances, and I never 298 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: will be. So Yeah, I definitely would do it again 299 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: if I had the opportunity. 300 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: Is reality TV reality. 301 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: You're gonna get me in trouble here? I mean, it is, 302 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: it is. 303 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: There's Listen, there's obviously a certain level of production that 304 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: goes into it, and that's just the nature of the 305 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: show and being produced and all that. But no, for truly, 306 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: like there is, I can't put any type of blame 307 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: or anything on anyone for how stuff may or may 308 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: not have happened. You know, I'm insanely grateful for, honestly, 309 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: the whole experience, the good and the bad and the bad. Honestly, 310 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: maybe even more than the good, I'm grateful for just 311 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: because I think the strength that I've gained from that, 312 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: the growth that I've been able to gain from that. 313 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest things for me going 314 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 4: into the show that I didn't really realize it was 315 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: like the biggest just mirror for me and like reflection 316 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: point was I was such a people pleaser going in 317 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: and I don't think I really understood it until kind 318 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: of like the end of this whole part of my 319 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: life you know, came to be. But it like it 320 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: was just insanely just draining and exhausting and like just 321 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: definitely like was a wake up call for me that 322 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: I you know, you got to be able to say, now, 323 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: you got to be able to like really just you know, 324 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: do put yourself first in a lot of these situations 325 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: and and and not just people please so much. That 326 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: was like probably the biggest, biggest piece of growth that 327 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: I took from the entire thing. 328 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: You talked about the reasons you've signed up for the show, 329 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: but in your experience, I know you talk to plenty 330 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: of people who've been on the show, not just your seasons. Yeah, 331 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: you are certainly a community. What what are some of 332 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: their reasons are? 333 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: Are? 334 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: What are the reasons sometimes people go on shows because 335 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be authenticicularly trying to find love, 336 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: that it's an opportunity. Now, I mean a lot of 337 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: people jump around. I can't believe I'm watching love al 338 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: and this dude was on that show, and this girl 339 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: was on that show, and you know what I mean. 340 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: So it's almost a career for some of these folks. 341 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: So what what were some of them? I'm curious as 342 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: an insider, what are some of the reasons you heard 343 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: for why people were there? 344 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you're, yeah, you're, you're, you're spot on For 345 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: me specifically, obviously it was it wasn't the career move. 346 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: I was never gonna leave flying. It was just going 347 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: to be an addition. 348 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: But a lot of people they were cool leaving their job, 349 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: and they were cool seeing where this jump and this 350 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: leap of faith would kind of take them. Hopefully, maybe 351 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: it would work out in a lasting relationship and you know, 352 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: everlasting happiness with your person. But if it didn't, obviously, 353 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: you know, the benefits and the rewards that can kind 354 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: of come from putting yourself out there on reality TV 355 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: and the opportunities that come about are are pretty incredible 356 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: for sure. 357 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like that now? It seems like everybody's 358 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: there for themselves and an opportunity versus love. I'll root 359 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: for love all day long, but I'm watching these shows 360 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: and really, folks don't seem to be in it for 361 00:15:59,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: that reason. 362 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: I wish. I wish social media. 363 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 4: I know, I think social media kind of ruined it. Unfortunately, 364 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: if I'm just being one hundred percent honest, it definitely 365 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: I think was a lot more authentic before this whole thing, 366 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: you know, the whole influencer world, and it's great, and 367 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: you know a lot of people are very successful on it, 368 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: and you know, I'd partake in that as well, you know, 369 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: kind of like as a side hustle. But unfortunately, I 370 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: don't think it's possible to. I think we're just too 371 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: far down in the whole social media out in the 372 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: rabbit hole to kind of ever get back to true 373 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: authentic just looking purely for love and no other ulterior motives. 374 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: And instead at the beginning here how difficult it is. Right, 375 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: you can fly a commercial airliner, you can run a marathon, 376 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: but the love might be the hardest. But still go 377 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: for me and explain just how hard is it to 378 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: run a marathon. 379 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: It's very hard, extremely hard. 380 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: I ran my first marathon three years ago when I 381 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: first moved to the city, and I've never been a runner. 382 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: Like before I've moved to the city, I was never 383 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: a runner. I you know, swim in high school. I 384 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: was probably the best sport. Football is my favorite. That 385 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: was what I enjoyed the most, but it was never 386 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: really into like long distance running. And so I moved 387 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 4: to the city looking for friends. I know too many 388 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: people here and one of the guys became my first, 389 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: one of my good friends. He had challenged I'm very competitive, right, 390 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: and so he had challenged me to America. He's a firefighter, 391 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: and he had challenged me to a race, and I 392 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, hell yeah, I can do that, for sure, 393 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: You're on. Meanwhile, I wasn't training at all. I took 394 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: this on this bet, and I just said, I'm going 395 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: to show up race day. 396 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry. What can you explain for those of 397 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: us who spend five months training and sometimes still don't 398 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: complete marathons? How what was your plan? What did you think? 399 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: I didn't have a plan? 400 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: You show uperic. 401 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: I literally showed up, and my friends like they the 402 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 4: entire time, they thought, there's no way in hell I'm 403 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: going to finish this. We went to carblow the day 404 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: before at this Italian restaurant, and then we went back 405 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: to my apartment and they showed They put on an 406 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: episode of How I Met You Mother, and it's the 407 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: episode with Barney when he takes the bib over from Marshall, 408 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: I believe right, because he gets hurt and so he's like, yeah, 409 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: I'll take the bid, like I'll go run it with 410 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: no training whatsoever, just like mister confident. And then he 411 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 4: runs the entire marathon and he's just plugging along and 412 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: everyone's like, in disbelieve, how's this guy doing it? And 413 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: then the end of the episode is he's on the 414 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 4: subway and sitting down. He tries to get up to 415 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: get off at his stop and he just falls over. 416 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: Working like that's gonna be you tomorrow. 417 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: And and that was me the next. 418 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: So what was your first marathon? First? Let me ask 419 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: you this. What was the farthest you had run before 420 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: you ran the marathon. 421 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna believe this. 422 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: Three weeks out, I will say I did some training. 423 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 4: Three weeks out from the marathon, I was like, I 424 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: have to do something, and so I got out of 425 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: my apartment. I was living in Midtown East and I 426 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: ran down the East Side on the river there and 427 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: I ran, I was gonna run six miles total, and 428 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: I was gonna go from my apartment near the United 429 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: Nations down to one. 430 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: Of the bridges back. 431 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: It was about six miles and I get down to 432 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: the bridge and I am just gassed, and I'm like. 433 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: This is I kidd six miles you were guessed? 434 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 3: No, that was three miles, because it was six miles 435 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: round trip. Three miles you were got And I like, 436 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: how to stop? 437 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: I remember I sat down on a bench. I'm like, 438 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: this is not good. This is really not good. And 439 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: so I sat for like ten minutes and then I 440 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: pushed myself to go back three miles. And that was 441 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: the only prep I did for the entire New York 442 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: City marathon. 443 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: Okay, jaws are both completely dropped, because, first of all, 444 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: anyone who's runner knows it's not like riding a bike. 445 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: You can't just pick it back up. Even if you 446 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: have run a marathon before, it doesn't mean two years 447 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: from now or a year later you could actually do 448 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: it again. We all know this is something that requires 449 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: like NonStop training. So you had a difficult time with 450 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: three miles. What was marathon day like, twenty twenty one? 451 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean this is just you guys are 452 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: just gonna like think this is ridiculous. But so I 453 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 4: show up again, I have no idea what I'm doing, 454 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: no prep don't even have the proper shoes. 455 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: I didn't even have running shoes. 456 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: Wait, what shoes did you have? 457 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. 458 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: It was Nike like trainer shoes, like lifting shoes. I 459 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: swear when I say I was so unprepared, I was 460 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: that unprepared. 461 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: And I was to trust him to my plane. 462 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: I had no idea what I was getting in. I 463 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: truly had no idea. 464 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: It was the confidence of only a pilot. That's what 465 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: I would say. 466 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: So what happened, and there's a great ending to this 467 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: whole story, But truly, I'm so grateful for everything, how 468 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 4: it happened. So I remember taking off. You know we're starting. 469 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 4: We're going over the Arizona Bridge. 470 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, high on life. This is insane. 471 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: I can't believe you're there. 472 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: I feel so good. I'm like, oh, this is gonna 473 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: be so easy. 474 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: Why was everyone so worried about taking pictures? Like look 475 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: with the Freedom's Hower in the background. Oh yeah, it 476 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: was incredible. 477 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Right. 478 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: And then even when my buddies so we'd all started, 479 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: He's like, dude, calm down, slow, don't blow down slow, 480 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 4: because I was just ready to Oh wow. The New 481 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: York City Marathon didn't know what they were getting with me, 482 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: so I was ready and and then I remember, like 483 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: four miles in the top of my foot started to 484 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: throp and it started to get some really bad pain 485 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: in the top of my f and at that point, 486 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: that was the forest I'd ever run in my life 487 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 4: for miles without ever stopping. 488 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: And it's twenty two to go, oh yeah, okay. 489 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: Sorry, but you know, I'm feeling good. And it's the energy, 490 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: you know, you are feeding off of it. And the 491 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: crowd is great, the crowd and. 492 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: Signs shine, it's great. 493 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: But you know what I like too, is it's just 494 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: like it's this dichot or it's like this division here 495 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: where I love feeling the energy from the crowd, but 496 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: I also run with music right with air pods, and 497 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: I love going that balance of back and forth of 498 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: like feeding off the crowd everyone yelling and all that, 499 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: but then also just being in between my ears and 500 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: just like focus, like in a meditative state. And I'm 501 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: a song repeater. So I listened to one song the 502 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: entire marathon. 503 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: What's the song. 504 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: It's Kids in Love by Kigo. Chigo's my favorite artist, 505 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: So it's it's different. 506 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: I know you're going to do that the same song 507 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: the whole marathon. 508 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, what yeah, I just it's weird. It puts 509 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 4: me into like a trance type state. 510 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: And four hours same song. Yeah, but I know we 511 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: came around with I'm so interesting, a little bit different. 512 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: I know, I'm okay. So you're four miles. Then you've 513 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: you've gotten past the furthest you've or the farthest you've 514 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: ever run, but it's not stopping. 515 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've already in paint that. 516 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: But you had twenty two miles to go? What did 517 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: two point two? 518 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: And and then you know, like miles seven, I started 519 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 4: feeling the pain kind of shift to like my shins 520 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: and like. 521 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: Then and then I'm like, god, ship, this isn't good. 522 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: We're only laughing. 523 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Those were runners, man. 524 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: So but then what was crazy is that then the 525 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: pain completely. 526 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 4: Went away right nine or ten, and then it came 527 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: right back like double is bad. And then I went 528 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: through these cycles where it would go away again and 529 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: then triple is bad, Like, oh no, this is really 530 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: not good. 531 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Wait did you stop? Did you walk? 532 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: Did you you made it to? 533 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: And I was so proud of myself because I'm just 534 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: winging it here and I made to thirteen point one, 535 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: right before the little bridge, yep, uphill, and I had 536 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: never stopped yet at that point, I just went thirteen 537 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 4: point one. 538 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: That's amazing, Wow, a half marathon. 539 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: Stop him. Then I stopped a little bit to walk 540 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: up that bridge because. 541 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: It was the very that would be the Queensborough No. 542 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right after the halfway, and then I was good. 543 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: I ran and then the Queensboro Bridge obviously I walked 544 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: up that point. And there was moments for sure, like 545 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: on first ab that I was walking at like miles seventeen, 546 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: I like definitely stopped for like thirty seconds, which was 547 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: a horrible mistake because my legs started. 548 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: To cramp up and I gotta keep going. 549 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: And then at that point it was pure My body 550 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: was just like obviously saying no, but it was purest 551 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: determination and will power to get it done. I was knocking, 552 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: and I'm tracking my buddy too, Like I had like 553 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: a good lead on him. So I was like, okay, 554 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: that that boost of. 555 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: Common you were ahead of your buddy. Yeah, had he trained? 556 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 557 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: Wow, okay confidence. 558 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: So that was making me feel good and I'm like, 559 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: all right, I got this little buffer so I can 560 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: afford to walk a little bit, but I was tracking him, 561 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: and I think that just competitive aspect kicked him anyway. 562 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: So then I get to Central Park, you know, we're 563 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 4: coming south down and then it's like the narrow corridors. 564 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: That was just a great boost for energy for me. 565 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: I love that I fed off that, and then I 566 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: ran my fastest mile I think like a seven and 567 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: a half mile, like on mile twenty four whatever. 568 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: That's impressive. 569 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what, like a boost energy kicked in 570 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: and I just like let it go. 571 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Because you know that shit was almost over. 572 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, God, a forger is coming to an end. 573 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 4: And then I crossed that line. And this is where 574 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying, like I'm super grateful for it all happened. 575 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: I know it was super dumb of me right to 576 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: go and try to think I could conquer this with 577 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: no training, Like not smart. 578 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: I don't recommend that to any but you did it. 579 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: I did it, Yeah, but I don't recommend it still, 580 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: And I know I could have hurt myself and I 581 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: was very lucky I didn't. But the mental place that 582 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: that put me in crossing that line was a place 583 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: I'd never been into my entire life, and I was 584 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 4: so fricking grateful for And it was again you talk 585 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: about like just a high that you're on and just 586 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: a level of just being able to truly like in 587 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: yourself you believe you can achieve anything, like if you 588 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: truly want it, nothing's going to hold you back. That's 589 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: the feeling I got right after that the last said 590 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: no joke for me for about a good like month 591 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: month and a half, Like I was on that level, 592 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 4: that frequency, and it was I was applying that to 593 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: so many different aspects of my life, and I just 594 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 4: I was just compounded it and just it was. 595 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: It was great. And I had never really felt that. 596 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: Level of accomplishment and just like success on something because 597 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: it's hard. It's hard as hell to finish one. And 598 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: I that was the main reason why when I got 599 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 4: you know, approached this, you know a couple months ago 600 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 4: with Fabletics to you know, support me and run this 601 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: marathon and with New York road Runners, I was like 602 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: one percent, Yes, there's no way I'm saying no. This time, 603 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna train, I'm gonna actually see what I'm capable of, 604 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna have the time of my life, 605 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: have fun, go with it and and do it again. 606 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: So it's been your longest training run this. 607 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: Time fifteen miles, so definitely put the training in. Yeah, well, 608 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 4: not winging it like last time. I've had an amazing 609 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 4: trainer coach Lance Parker, I've been working with and I've 610 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: been working with a mindfulness meditation coach Megan Monahan as well. 611 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: So try and take care of the body and the 612 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: mind and everything and really see what I can do. 613 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: I love that, and runners know we always say I mean, 614 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: I always say I want to finish uninjured. That's like 615 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: the always the goal. Do you have a time goal? 616 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 617 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: So the first one I did five hours seventeen minutes, 618 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 4: and this one I'd love to break. 619 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: Four and a half hours. Nice, So that's what I'm 620 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: going for if I could do. 621 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 4: If I'm feeling good, I'll try to go for the 622 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: four four hour mark, but I don't know four and 623 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: a half. 624 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: I'd be really happy with. 625 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: What she used this time, Hoka, not the trainers yet. 626 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: I'm curious, what was do you remember your hardest mile 627 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: in the last one. 628 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was that seventeen. I think seventeen eighteen mile 629 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 4: one is what always stands out to me. It's like 630 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 4: that's you know, gradual incline on first ab there and 631 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: that's where I stopped and I actually sat down for 632 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: like thirty seconds. That to me was like the biggest 633 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: wall I felt like I had to push through. 634 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's interesting. That's coming off of the Queen's 635 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: And so when you so for me, it's always once 636 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: I get through the Bronx and I'm going up Fifth Avenue, 637 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: you're technically going downtown, but you're going uphill for a 638 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: very long that didn't bother you. That that was the 639 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: toughest stretch. 640 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: For me always has bothered me. 641 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: But I would say for sure the first huge wall 642 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: that I was like if there was any doubt that 643 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: crept in, I'm like, can I actually finish this? It 644 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: was at seventeen eighteen and I really had to push 645 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 4: through and be like no, like we were doing. You 646 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: know what's really cool is Megan, who I was telling 647 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: you I worked with for the whole mindset meditation aspect. 648 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: You know, she said something to me and so true. 649 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 4: It's like when you feel like you when your body 650 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: is telling you you're completely gassed or no, sorry, when 651 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 4: your mind is telling you're completely gassed. And you are done, 652 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: you have about sixty percent left in your body. Wow, 653 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: And it's it's really it's a beautiful thing when you 654 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: can like know that and realize that that your mind 655 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 4: is just playing these tricks on you and it's it's 656 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: trying to get you to stop. But you have a 657 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: lot more left in the tank. And yeah, I think 658 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 4: all that combined is just why push yourself. I love 659 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: this whole the whole experience. 660 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: Well, man, we will see you out and the time 661 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: you're going for we might all be crossing together. We might, 662 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: but that is what we're We will see you for 663 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: sure there on Sunday as we get ready to do 664 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: this thing. But man, it is an absolute pleasure to 665 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: have you in studio. It's one thing. Look, we've we've 666 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: done a whole lot of Bachelor stuff in our day 667 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: from our previous days with ABC, so we we've always 668 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: been even if we didn't watch the show, we're fans 669 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: of the people we got to know over time, and 670 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: you were certainly one of them. And it's so it's appreciate. 671 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: It's really really great to have you in sto studio 672 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: and be able to have this kind of fun conversation again. 673 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: A little therapy here from robot. 674 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: We just launched into it. We actually don't even know 675 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: what we're gonna say when we say it, but I 676 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: think that's. 677 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: One of the fun But we're working on that ropes, 678 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: aren't we. 679 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to have a better filter sometimes I had. 680 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: I had such a filter for my entire career for 681 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: almost three decades, and now my filter gets to like 682 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: go up a little bit. So I apologize for getting 683 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: too are sold too quickly, But I do think there 684 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: are so many things about career and even like choosing 685 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: things like running marathons. People think you're crazy, right, but 686 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: it all feeds into a larger scheme of our life 687 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: and what we're trying to accomplish and what we all want, 688 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: which is to feel to feel that we can do 689 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: hard things right. And that that includes relationships, that includes marathons, 690 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: that includes well, I can't even imagine plying a plane, 691 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: but we're grateful for people like you who can. Yeah, 692 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: that's the easy part. But Pilot Pete, I guess are 693 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: you okay with that? 694 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: Are you? Like? 695 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: That's your Instagram handle, right, So you've embraced the whole thing, 696 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: and I love that about you too. Some people try 697 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: to deny where they came from, but you're like, I'm 698 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: Pilot Pete and that's okay, and we'll be rooting for 699 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: you and running alongside you comes Sunday, so good luck, 700 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: and I'll tell you congratulations ahead of time because you're 701 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: gonna do great. 702 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: Awesome you guys at the finish line, it's that 703 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: M