Speaker 1: You know, we're not playing the game of sending people up,
Speaker 1: sending people down and changing their team chemistry all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't seem to be a big believer
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 2: We've got Ryan Walker from the San Francisco Giants joining
Speaker 2: us right now, super reliever Ryan. Great to have you
Speaker 2: on first of all, but can I call you closer? Like,
Speaker 2: how do you like to get introduced? Obviously you've done
Speaker 2: a lot of closing for the ball club, but how
Speaker 2: do you like to get introd.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me, honestly, I always personally say reliever.
Speaker 1: Saying closer sounds kind of arrogant.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. For me, what about super reliever?
Speaker 3: I feel want to say that. That's fine. I mean, no,
Speaker 3: I got to say closer.
Speaker 4: You gotta say closer.
Speaker 3: It's not air, I know. I don't know. It's something
Speaker 3: in me that doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but now they're gonna take this when you go
Speaker 4: to arbitration and they're gonna say, well, you actually went
Speaker 4: on this really super esteemed show foul Territory with X player, guess,
Speaker 4: and you didn't want to associate yourself with being a closer.
Speaker 4: So we're going to diminish your value. No, you say
Speaker 4: I'm a closer, you get a shirt that says I'm
Speaker 4: a closer, don't get a tattoo, because you never know,
Speaker 4: starters make way more in free agency. So there's that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 2: How much do you like closing? I mean when you
Speaker 2: come into the game in the ninth inning, like, how
Speaker 2: much of a rush is it? How much is it
Speaker 2: something maybe that you look forward to your entire pitching life.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a position I want to be in. I
Speaker 1: honestly never thought I would ever be in this position,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, just I just I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I never saw it in my cards. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely a dream position for sure.
Speaker 3: Now being in it.
Speaker 1: It can definitely suck at some points more than other
Speaker 1: jobs in the bullpen, but that's also very rewarding at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 4: Wait, why do you say that, Why do you say
Speaker 4: you never saw your off in this position?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I've never really been like
Speaker 1: this massive goal guy. I've been more so just tiny goals.
Speaker 1: And my only goal in the big leagues to be honest,
Speaker 1: was to keep a job and have a job. I
Speaker 1: don't care where it is. We've had Douvie as the
Speaker 1: closer as well, you know what I mean, And obviously
Speaker 1: I never wished any little season upon them, but you know,
Speaker 1: so there. It's just never been in my It's never
Speaker 1: been in my minds. But obviously cards fell the way
Speaker 1: they did and it worked out for me to be
Speaker 1: in the position, and I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you took advantage of the situation. You absolutely dealt
Speaker 4: put yourself on the map to be that closer. What
Speaker 4: is the difference in your heart rate, your feeling, or
Speaker 4: how hard it is for you to get up for
Speaker 4: a game when you come in in the eighth, when
Speaker 4: you come in in a knife, How different is.
Speaker 3: It for you? It's very different.
Speaker 1: I've always described it as my first time closing was
Speaker 1: like my debut all over again. You're in just such
Speaker 1: a different atmosphere. The crowd's a lot louder, you're over,
Speaker 1: You're almost always facing the top of the order or
Speaker 1: the heart of the order, and especially when you're only
Speaker 1: up by one, it's like it really really gets your
Speaker 1: heart pumping. You're up by one, you're facing judge and
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, that's that's a hunker down here.
Speaker 1: But that's what makes it fun to use that to
Speaker 1: your advantage and you get a little extra edge out
Speaker 1: of it too.
Speaker 5: I want I want to ask a little about some
Speaker 5: of your teammates here. I play with a guy as
Speaker 5: well warm of floor as I mean, this guy is
Speaker 5: just is a guy you don't want to see late
Speaker 5: in the game because he's absolutely dominant. Talk a little
Speaker 5: bit about him and his leadership role and what he
Speaker 5: brings to the team and how he's helping his squad prosper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Wilmer is great.
Speaker 1: He's he's got a great bat along with a good
Speaker 1: eye too. He's very dangerous at the plate. As a leader,
Speaker 1: He's he's a quiet leader. He leads by example and
Speaker 1: when he speaks up, everyone listens. He's an awesome guy
Speaker 1: to have around and obviously he's been around the game
Speaker 1: for a very long time, so a really good guy
Speaker 1: to learn from for the younger hitters too. But man, yeah,
Speaker 1: I seen him at the plate so far has been awesome.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was pretty shocking to me in our a series
Speaker 1: when they walked yest to get to to get the
Speaker 1: flow I was. We were all like, all right, I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll take it too. I guess like we'll take our
Speaker 1: best hitter currently at the plate with faces loaded, and
Speaker 1: it obviously worked out, not even by his bat but
Speaker 1: by his eye. So he's been a great He's been
Speaker 1: a huge part of the scene.
Speaker 4: When you sit down and bullpen in San Francisco and
Speaker 4: it gets colder and colder, do you kind of wish
Speaker 4: you were in another city, Not that the city isn't awesome,
Speaker 4: but how cold it is. Just randomly certain nights you're like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, we gotta we gotta it a bench down there,
Speaker 1: and that that's hot. It gets so hot that you
Speaker 1: can't even sit on it. So I mean, we're we're
Speaker 1: pretty we're pretty warm down there, and it really makes
Speaker 1: up for all of it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't think I would.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like playing at that stadium, even if
Speaker 1: even if it is cold, Like it's just a fun
Speaker 1: atmosphere to be in.
Speaker 3: So I've always enjoyed that, all right.
Speaker 4: For everybody who hasn't seen you pitch, obviously they don't
Speaker 4: watch baseball, but you have a unique delivery. Can anybody
Speaker 4: else warm up at the same time as you? Because
Speaker 4: from what I remember of that new bullpen, you can't
Speaker 4: throw on the right on the right mound? Am I correct?
Speaker 4: Or have they expanded it for you?
Speaker 1: They haven't expanded it for me, but yeah, I typically
Speaker 1: say on the left side of the mound. Otherwise there
Speaker 1: are some places I don't know where, but I will
Speaker 1: definitely fall off the heads. We actually have a room
Speaker 1: in between mounds and most places due to where we
Speaker 1: can both throw, so it's never really been an issue.
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, a little bit, a little bit of
Speaker 4: off field. I got some inside information. Are you good
Speaker 4: at remembering people's names on your team?
Speaker 3: On my team currently? Yeah? Yeah, okay, I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay, then why did it take you an entire year
Speaker 4: to know what your agent's actual name was?
Speaker 3: My agent's name?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I thought I just thought he was a different name. Okay,
Speaker 1: It's not like I forgot it. I've always known of
Speaker 1: a name. It was just the wrong name.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you got you got bad information early? All right,
Speaker 4: So my next, his name is His name is Alex,
Speaker 4: and you thought his name was Dave for about a year.
Speaker 4: He told me, He told me he thought it would
Speaker 4: be a funny, funny story. But along with that, yeah,
Speaker 4: along with that, who is the best athlete in your family?
Speaker 3: In my family?
Speaker 1: Me?
Speaker 3: Your wife?
Speaker 1: Uh sorry, I came literally my immediate family. Oh no, no, no, definitely,
Speaker 1: my wife is definitely more athletic than me.
Speaker 3: That's not even a question.
Speaker 7: Could you beat her? Could you beat her in volleyball?
Speaker 7: No shot, how good way we've played. I mean, she's elite.
Speaker 7: We've played together and it never works out in my favor.
Speaker 7: We'll play at the end volleyball every once in a
Speaker 7: while and she'll just make a fool of me. But
Speaker 7: she's elite.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see her college stats, and she's got
Speaker 1: these records, and she was she was just such a
Speaker 1: leader on the court as well.
Speaker 3: I couldn't I couldn't amount to her.
Speaker 2: Ryan, I'm going to jump in here, because you know,
Speaker 2: there was some we got a lot of like college athletes.
Speaker 2: We've got minor leaguers, high schoolers that watch and listen
Speaker 2: to this show, and of course we talk, you know
Speaker 2: about velocity and Spain and all this stuff, right, that's
Speaker 2: a big part of the game today. But I do
Speaker 2: want to get your perspective on how important it is
Speaker 2: to have deception, how underrated that can be. The two
Speaker 2: words for me that send out with someone like you
Speaker 2: deception and variety, right, even if you don't grow oneh three.
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of kids are being judged
Speaker 2: by velostity because that's the easiest way to evaluate talent.
Speaker 2: You can thrive and succeed. And teams are looking for deception.
Speaker 2: They're looking for a bullpen that has a bunch of
Speaker 2: guys that do things super differently. So that was my
Speaker 2: layman term explanation. How do you describe that for a
Speaker 2: lot of pictures, Yeah, young pictures out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean i'd say it does play a huge
Speaker 1: role in your delivery. Again, like you said, people don't
Speaker 1: ever really talk about it. I feel like like it's
Speaker 1: not like a main stat like you said. But I've
Speaker 1: known money of pictures who don't throw hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: I got a buddy with the Diamondbacks in my leagues.
Speaker 1: It was eighty eight to ninety, but he blows it
Speaker 1: by people like he's swing ninety nine because his deception
Speaker 1: is just unreal. So I think having that deception is
Speaker 1: very important. I think it is hard to I don't
Speaker 1: know how teachable it is. Sometimes I feel like it
Speaker 1: could be pretty hard to teach, depending on the delivery.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you can figure a way to keep
Speaker 1: that ball hidden as long as possible, whether it's using
Speaker 1: your leg or being a little crossfire or whatever, it is, Like,
Speaker 1: I think it brings a lot more to the table
Speaker 1: than you would expect, for sure, because now you're perceiving
Speaker 1: like even if you do if you do ninety one, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said to ninety one, but your deception is
Speaker 1: is really good. Like that's perceived completely different to the hitter.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and that's part of it too. So I
Speaker 5: mean as a hitter when I played it used to
Speaker 5: go out. You see a guy that's not throwing, it's
Speaker 5: hard like, oh man, this is the guy that you
Speaker 5: know pays the bills. And that guy usually dominated me,
Speaker 5: of course, And that's part of you know, lack of
Speaker 5: not knowing. That's part of being humbled. That's part of
Speaker 5: being a veteran, and you know, seeing more stuff. Talking
Speaker 5: about veterans, I want to talk a little about justin Ferlander.
Speaker 5: He's has a nerve problem in his pack going on
Speaker 5: right now. Have you had good conversations with him about
Speaker 5: pitching and has he been a pretty good leader so
Speaker 5: far with the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's been a great leader with the team.
Speaker 1: I personally haven't had a lot of pitching conversations with him,
Speaker 1: but I know other guys have. He's just a valuable
Speaker 1: guy to have around the clubhouse to learn from. He's
Speaker 1: done it longer than anybody, so he's been very valuable
Speaker 1: to us. I've definitely touched him a few times. The
Speaker 1: last time I touched him was just an apology for
Speaker 1: blowing his second his game is for the second time,
Speaker 1: which I felt pretty bad about that. He's he's a professional.
Speaker 1: You know, he gets it. We're all trying our best
Speaker 1: out there and he's let's just see him that he
Speaker 1: handles it so well. A lot of knowledge should be
Speaker 1: picked from him.
Speaker 4: What did he What was his response when you apologize
Speaker 4: to him?
Speaker 3: That's what he said.
Speaker 1: I said, amen, like I'm sorry, like this sucks, like
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not trying to do that. His response
Speaker 1: was just like, hey, man, don't even don't worry about it,
Speaker 1: Like I know, you're trying your best out there like
Speaker 1: it is what it is like, you know, and that
Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. I understand. I knew he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna just blow me up. He's not that kind
Speaker 1: of a guy. That I'm hearing that from him just
Speaker 1: kind of made me more confident for the next time
Speaker 1: the opportunity arises, and you know, not be so worried
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: Doing his day.
Speaker 1: You know, it was pretty it was handled very professionally
Speaker 1: and said he's a great dude to have around.
Speaker 2: Hey, Brian, last one for me.
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 2: Berlanders added to the mix here. Domics added to the
Speaker 2: mix here. You know, I had a lot of the
Speaker 2: guys from last year who've taken a good step up too.
Speaker 2: But what about the impact of having Buster Posey really
Speaker 2: with a strong voice in this organization now? Right, you're
Speaker 2: able to see the transition here. What's it like to
Speaker 2: have someone who, first of all, is an absolute legend,
Speaker 2: right he is a San Francisco Giants legend as a
Speaker 2: human being. He knows this franchise in and out. What's
Speaker 2: it been like? I mean, do you have combos with him?
Speaker 2: Are there things that you know he's talked about that
Speaker 2: you feel like have made a difference. I know talking
Speaker 2: to some people around the organization that right around spring training,
Speaker 2: I want to say he talked to the team like,
Speaker 2: we are going to play fundamental ball, do things right,
Speaker 2: and reward the people that do that. Did that resonate?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. It's brought a lot of relaxation around
Speaker 1: the organization. In my opinion, having someone with such a
Speaker 1: massive baseball amount of baseball knowledge and also be able
Speaker 1: to run the team well is huge. He's very personable,
Speaker 1: which is nice. He doesn't walk around like he's you know,
Speaker 1: not approachable or he can't talk to him because he
Speaker 1: makes the decision.
Speaker 3: So he's just he's there to talk to you if
Speaker 3: you need to.
Speaker 1: When I was going through my little stint of rough outings,
Speaker 1: you know, he just meet him and Bob talking about it.
Speaker 1: You know, the fact that he's there and understands is huge.
Speaker 1: You know, we're not playing the game of sending people up,
Speaker 1: sending people down and changing changing the team chemistry all
Speaker 1: the time. You know, he didn't seem to be a
Speaker 1: big believer in that, and he really believes in his
Speaker 1: guys he has right now, which is awesome. It's been
Speaker 1: a huge change for everybody, honestly, all.
Speaker 4: Right, last one for me here Hayden bird Song had
Speaker 4: sixteen or seventeen starts I think last year, and then
Speaker 4: he comes to the bullpen. Is it hard to try
Speaker 4: to transition even younger pitchers are less experienced pitchers into
Speaker 4: the bullpen, and like just the lifestyle of people yelling
Speaker 4: at him because Starter's sitting a dugout that kind of
Speaker 4: live more of a pampered life. Did you guys get
Speaker 4: on bird Song for being down there and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, this dude absolutely deals when he's coming
Speaker 4: out of the pen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it just depends on the guy.
Speaker 1: I think Birdie handled it really well. Obviously, the warm
Speaker 1: up Routeaine everything is thrown out the window. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready in an instant. But I think
Speaker 1: the team also did a pretty good job on making
Speaker 1: sure he was prepared to get the job done. You know,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of quick like hey, bird you
Speaker 1: need to be ready and to stand the pitches. They
Speaker 1: handled it really well. And Bertie's just a guy who
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, he just wants to pitch and he
Speaker 1: wants to compete and do well, so wherever that businessing
Speaker 1: is he, I think he also feeds off the energy
Speaker 1: of the people trying to make fun of him out
Speaker 1: here and make fun.
Speaker 3: Of us in the bullpen.
Speaker 1: Like it's more of like a all right, cool, like
Speaker 1: this is getting me even more prepared for the game,
Speaker 1: So keep doing it.
Speaker 3: He's going hadling it really well.
Speaker 1: And obviously he was dealing, and that ways back to
Speaker 1: starting and dealing again.
Speaker 2: So well, Ryan, this was great. I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate the time. Great to have you on here
Speaker 2: for chat. Good luck the rest of the way here.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us
Speaker 3: Dude, thanks for having me