1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: You've got a genius five year old, and it sounds 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: like a genior. Is he nine or ten? Now he's eleven. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Han's like the hair growing on his little legs. It's 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: super weird. Don't even talk about that. Combat. I keep 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: huffing Henry's neck, just trying to catch the last tiny 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: scent of babyhood, of childhood, but it's obviously absurd because 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: he's now a strapping dude. How is he he's thirteen. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very nice of him to let me 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: huff his neck. He's really like a sort of labrador, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: just sort of I was gonna say, I do that 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: to my dog's ears. There's like a gaminess. Yeah, he 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: just wanted lives right in there. It's the right, whether 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: neck meets the back of their ear, it's exactly right. 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, one day I'll write a paper 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: on the parallel between labradors and boys, and that having 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: a labrador is a really good precursor to having a 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: baby boy. Hello, I'm Mini driver. Welcome to the Mini 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Questions season two. I've always loved Cruce's quest Jeanette. It 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: was originally a nineteenth century parlor game where players would 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: ask each other thirty five questions aimed at revealing the 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: other player's true nature. It's just the scientific method, really. 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: In asking different people the same set of questions, you 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: can make observations about which truths appeared to be universal. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I love this discipline, and it made me wonder, what 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: if these questions were just the jumping off point, what 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: greater depths would be revealed if I asked these questions 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: as conversation starters with thought leaders and trailblazers across all 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: these different disciplines. So I adapted prus questionnaire and I 29 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: wrote my own seven questions that I personally think a 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: pertinent to a person's story. They are when and where 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: were you happiest? What is the quality you like least 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: about yourself? What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: What question would you most like answered, What person, place, 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: or experience has shaped you the most? What would be 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: your last meal? And can you tell me something in 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: your life that's grown out of a personal disaster? And 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: I've gathered a group of really remarkable people, ones that 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: I am honored and humbled to have had the chance 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: to engage with. You may not hear their answers to 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: all seven of these questions. We've whittled it down to 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: which questions felt closest to their experience, or the most surprising, 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: or created the most fertile ground to connect. My guest 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: today on many questions is Chassi Visiram. Chasi is an 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: extraordinary American entrepreneur, investor, and philanthropist, probably best known as 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: the founder of Happy Family Organics and Healthy nest To, companies, 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: which were started with the purpose of helping parents raise 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: healthier babies. Chassis work has been influenced by her own 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: parenting experiences, raising her son who is on the spectrum 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: of autism, and her daughter who is neurotypical. We had 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: such an interesting conversation about rinting and about life and 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: about being a woman who works. And I find her 52 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: incredibly inspiring because she's she's one of those people who 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: we say in the back of our mind, how do 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: they do it all? And she's vulnerable enough to let 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: you see that she can do it all, but it 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: is very, very hard. It was a great conversation. I 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it. What question would you most like answered? 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: This one's easy. You know when you like blow out 59 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: a candle and make your wish. My wish has been 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: for nine years now and it will always be until 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: it's answered. Is what is going to be the novel 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: therapy that heals my son of his artism, that allows 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: him to be independent. What is it going to be? 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Because I have watched in the last year and change 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: this world come up with COVID vaccines, COVID treatments, to 66 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: a pandemic that has rocked us all. But I have 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: watched in my own life this epidem make of autism skyrocket. 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: When Sane was diagnosed, it was one in a hundred 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: and sixty eight and actually April one of last year, 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: the CDC in the US released data it's two years old. 71 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Based on so before it was one in fifty nine 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and now it's one in fifty four. And that happened 73 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: in two years, so I'm looking at one in fifty 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: four babies born in the United States will get a 75 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: not to some diagnosis. And remember it's a spectrum. But 76 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: in my world, the spectrum is one where I fear 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: for the worst and hope for the best, and I 78 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: just I want my son to be independent and be 79 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: able to show his gifts because he's actually the smartest 80 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: person in the world, but he's stuck in this body 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: that doesn't allow him to show that. You know, sometimes 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of times given the prevalent that like the 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: hyper prevalence, and those numbers are just shocking that you 84 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: just said, why do you think there isn't the research 85 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: and answers to those questions? When you're right, when people 86 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: get motivated and galvanized, we can come up with extraordinary stuff. 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: So why do you think they haven't around this? Well, 88 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a neuroscientist and I'm not a geneticist, 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: but what happens is, you know, let's say with the 90 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, you have a virus that you can identify. 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: We know what it looks like. It's very specific. With 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the autism. Autism is the result is a set of 93 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: symptoms that present based on a trigger. And I think 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: for every unique being, the trigger can be very different, 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: and it's every genetic and it's a confluence of so 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: many things. So you don't think it's just environmental, like 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: there's been so many theories as to what it is. 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's environmental, but there are a trillion 99 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: things in the environment that can make a difference and 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: also your specific genetic makeup makeup right that is evolving 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: based on how it's interacting with that environment. So it's 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: a moving target. And yet there are things, and I 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: can only speak from my friends who have children on 104 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: the spectrum, the things that I've seen firsthand that make 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: a difference, Like food can make a huge difference. I've 106 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: seen that one. Because that's one of the many things 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: that you could say are sort of ancillary to having 108 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: this diagnosis, is that, like I believe it's almost half 109 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: of children with autism have gut issues. And if the 110 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: tissue of the brain is the same tissue of the gut, 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: and if there is inflammation in the gut, there can 112 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: or will likely be inflammation in the brain. So removing 113 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: things that are a trigger from inflammation is certainly like 114 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: step one. I mean, that's like table stakes, you know, 115 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: it's like gluten and dairy uh, you know, our triggers 116 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: for inflammation. And I've seen it make a massive difference 117 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: behaviorally that one wouldn't immediately think. But there's so much more. 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: And we've done so many different therapies and some are 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: wows for us and some have zero effect, but they 120 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: might be a wow for a friend of mine who 121 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: has you know, because if they say, if you've met 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Oh god, it's frustrating. It's frustrating that that's how it is. 124 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: But that's my question, and I know we can answer it. 125 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: I know some things that can either per event or 126 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: ameliorate an artism outcome. And I practiced it because we 127 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: have a daughter. So my daughter Asha is five. They 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: think during the pandemic, the world has shifted to talking 129 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: about mental health in a way that has never been 130 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: as open and clear. I mean, I don't even know you. 131 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: You and I don't know each other. I'm sharing with 132 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: you enough to be you know, it's like a therapy session. 133 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: And I almost do that with anybody I joined a 134 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: zoom with. Lately, I've noticed that having done this through 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I think that's exactly what it is, a 136 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: wall or a membrane that it was kept us slightly 137 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: separate from what we're feeling in the need to process 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: and process quickly to accommodate what was happening circumstantially. I 139 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: hope it's gone for good. I mean it feels a 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: lot more raw, but it feels closer to figuring out 141 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. And also it becoming typicalized, you know, 142 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: talking about mental health, Well, it's like human and kindness. 143 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: And my point is, if we can now have this 144 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: shift to be talking about mental health and address it proactively, 145 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: then let's look at developmental health because to me, that's 146 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: the epidemic that is facing our future, far larger than 147 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the pandemic that I hope becomes endemic and is temporary, 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: but the epidemic of neurological health. And if it's one 149 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: in six children in the United States, I don't know 150 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: what it is elsewhere, but one in six will get 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: a developmental diagnosis. It's shocking when you say it like that. 152 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: But what's shocking on top of that is there are 153 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: no protocols like you have to have a mother like you, 154 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: or a mother like my friends, or fathers like my 155 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: friends with kids with developmental differences, pushing and finding and 156 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: asking and seeking and navigating while they're still trying to 157 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: make a living, keep the home the lights turned on, 158 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: take care of other children that we haven't got systems 159 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: in place societally. When numbers look like that, it feels 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: bananas and I hope that changes at the very least 161 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: to start. Was interesting. My friend who moved from America 162 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: to England. England, they got locked down a lot tighter, 163 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's because it's a smaller country and 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: because we have you know, socialized stuff isn't seen as 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: communism in England, but there's a protocol which makes you 166 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: feel safe, so it makes you feel stronger. I watched 167 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: her be empowered as a parent, as opposed to flailing 168 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: in a sea of information that was impossible to navigate 169 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: through when she was fearful and tired and trying to 170 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: take care of her kids. So maybe that's it. Maybe 171 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: like the basic logistics, maybe it will start there. But 172 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: I just I wonder if, like it's often. There was 173 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: this cartoon I loved when I was a kid where 174 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: aliens came and took over Earth and it was a 175 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: complete nightmare and the world was over and the human 176 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: race was going to be over and everything was done 177 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: for and then an alien got a cold and it's 178 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: spread through their ranks, and the cold was why the 179 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: aliens left Earth. I wonder if it's something that is 180 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: incredibly boring and typical and normal and to do with 181 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: just like a fundamental logistic which will open up the 182 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: whole kind of arena. Like if we start with like that, 183 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: just the little tiny things. Have you heard of that? 184 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you have canaries in a coal 185 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: mine analogy to me that that is actually the same 186 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,239 Speaker 1: as your aliens, because that's what our children are. They're vulnerable. 187 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: They have one way of presenting this information. Are they 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: going to sing or are they not going to sing? 189 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: And you send this canary into a coal mine and 190 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: it will tell you whether or not it's safe. And 191 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: when the canaries are not well, that is the human 192 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: wake up call that we need to clean it all up. 193 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my life's work. So what relationship, real 194 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: or fictionalized, defines love for you? I had a really 195 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: cool dad. I mean he was not just a great dad, 196 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: but he was like the coolest person I've ever met. 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: I think the way that he showed me love, which 198 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: is unique because he was like my best friend. He 199 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: was was older when he had me, and just super wise, 200 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: and he's like it's just really funny, like he would 201 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: just drop these bombs and everyone would be laughing, and 202 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: he just was just so chill and cool and smart 203 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: but practically illiterate. And you know, I grew up so 204 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: my parents were Muslim, and in that world, you know, 205 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: a girl is less likely than a boy to be successful. 206 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: And my dad's best compliment to me was like that 207 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: I was like ten sons. It was like not just 208 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: that he loved me, but it was that he constantly 209 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: reminded me that I could do anything. And I know 210 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: that it comes from being the daughter of immigrants. I 211 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: feel like I've always been given this duty to make 212 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: the world a better place because I've seen them do that, 213 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and I know that that was their highest purpose in life, 214 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: was to help other people. I think that I have 215 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: superpowers to change the world, like I think I can 216 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: move mountains. I've been told that ever since I was 217 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: a little Like my dad would say, shah Zi, you 218 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: are a lion, and like I just always think that way. 219 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: And I mean, i grew up in a motel room 220 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: in Alabama, but I'm still a lion. And so when 221 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: I think I can do something, I will just I'll 222 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: do it. And it's like when you love someone so 223 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: much that you want them to have not just the 224 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: best in life, but like you will sacrifice anything so 225 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: that that person can have that opportunity. That's big. And 226 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I saw him do that for me for so many years. 227 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: So you think that sacrifices the major Korniston of love. 228 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: I think it's not the necessity, but it's the willingness 229 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: to put someone else ahead of you for their happiness 230 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: or their potential. There's something beautiful about that. And while 231 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: you're doing it, to be laughing and having fun, like, 232 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: you can't beat that, right, that's it. To be laughing 233 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and having fun while you're making people feel good about themselves. 234 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: That would be amazing. I would like that for my 235 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: old age. Certainly. I had an older dad as well. 236 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I think they just they're just not going through so 237 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: much their own ship. I always felt like my dad 238 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: is like, God, you know you're staying out till thirty. 239 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: When I told you to be home at town, it 240 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: was low on the list of his this is going 241 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: to totally funk up your life. What I loved was 242 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: that he'd sort of lived through the Second World War 243 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: and through PTSD and through rebuilding his body and his 244 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: life and his everything to come to this point where 245 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: he had a little daughter when he was fifty, and 246 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: he was kind of like Wow, you're amazing, you know, 247 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: and europain in my ass didn't take everything quite so 248 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: seriously is the wrong word, I don't know what the 249 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: word is. But he never made me sweat stuff that 250 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: he was still working through himself. Yeah, a little bit. 251 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: My dad was a truck driver. He drove like a 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: semi truck in the Mount kilman Jaro region of Africa. 253 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: He grew up with dirt floors under his feet. And 254 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: I met people at his funeral that met him one 255 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: time on the side of the road in Africa, that 256 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: came to his funeral in Alabama. Wow, Like it was 257 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: like one of the people that just left you better 258 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: after one conversation. That wisdom and that I don't know, 259 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: it was like it was just like super charming and 260 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: to be so grounded and be able to be that 261 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: charming and after having had like a lot of hardship. 262 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, he didn't sweat the small stuff because it 263 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: literally was like a gnat. It's like nothing. When you've 264 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: seen those things, it's amazing how they continue to be 265 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: fuel for you, you know, our parents, or they continue 266 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: to be fuel even after they've gone. That's also the 267 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: selfless gift in a way, like it carries on even 268 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: after they die, the good ones, there's some thing so 269 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: we don't want to carry on. That's one thing I 270 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: learned more recently is that I didn't do this when 271 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: I had either of my children. But now I'm like 272 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: a really big proponent of sitting down with your partner 273 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: or however you're going to bring new life into the 274 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: world and saying, like, what what is my mission statement 275 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: for this new relationship? Like what kind of person do 276 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: we want to raise? And how are we going to 277 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: be as we do it? And what are the things 278 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: from our family lives that were so good that we 279 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: want to bring into this next version of ourselves that's 280 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: their own person, And what are the things we want 281 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: to leave behind that didn't serve us? Yeah, because I 282 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: definitely had. It's not like everything was sunshine and rainbows, 283 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, right. I like that corporate approach. I like 284 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: a mission statement with a human I think that's a 285 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: really it's a pretty cool idea. I like that it's 286 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: like a family mission statement. Where and when were you happiest? 287 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Hands down, it's not even a competition. The first time 288 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: I held my son in my arms, happiest moment of 289 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: my life. Sounds cliche. No, no, no, I don't think 290 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: well cliches a cliches because there's sort of repeated truths now. 291 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: But what for you was that moment? I mean, yes, 292 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: the joy of meeting this person that you've quite literally 293 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: made inside you. But was it the fulmination of other things? 294 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I think for me, because I'm idealistic and I'm in 295 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: my head a lot, and I always wanted to be 296 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: an artist and paint pictures, and I thought being creative 297 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: was my life's study. And then I ended up not 298 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: pursuing painting, and I pursued business as my expression of 299 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: creativity because I realized that that can be creative too, 300 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,119 Speaker 1: and that was going well. It's a roller coaster, interesting 301 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: and somewhat self defining. But then having the baby in 302 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: my arms, like hands down, there's nothing more creative than 303 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: creating new life. It's just the fulfillment of my body's 304 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: ability to make something so special and beyond anything one 305 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: could ever imagine. Because you don't know the future, you're 306 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: not in control, it's the most beautiful moment. There's a 307 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: lot of people who don't want to have babies nowadays, 308 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: and I can understand why. It's a crazy world to 309 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: bring a child into. But it's the coolest, most empowering, 310 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: most creative thing in the world to make a human being. 311 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. It's astonishing. I think 312 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: it's why man is so scared of us. Well, it's 313 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: pretty powerful. Yeah, it really is super when you were painting, 314 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: when you're making even that they can't really be an 315 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: equivalency of maybe making some are and like that creation 316 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: of a human But was there that feeling of the 317 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: satisfaction of making something and the freedom of that and 318 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: the uniqueness of making art. It was the ability to 319 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: have the expression and control it, but with lacking the 320 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: technical skill of the masters. Yeah, I could like replicate 321 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: not like Malcolm Gladwell style blink, replicate like a Van 322 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: got But I could do a starring night, just not 323 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: the same. You know, it's like having a vision in 324 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: your head and being able to try to bring it out. 325 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: I'm like super critical, you know, just the act of 326 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the expression. That's sort of like that's like running or 327 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: taking a bath or drinking a glass of wine, Like 328 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: that's a way to just get out your emotional I 329 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: don't know that pent up emotion. But what I also 330 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: wanted was to have the expression and then have the 331 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: end result be super beautiful and reflective of what I 332 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: had in my head. And I think that somewhere there 333 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: was a disconnect and I let that go. Do you 334 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: think that's why you could have your life's work evolve 335 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: into business because maybe there was a sense of like 336 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: never being able to reach the place that you wanted 337 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: to with your art, or do you think that it 338 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: just one grew out of the other. I think that 339 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: the business, the beauty of the business being my sense 340 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: of creative expression is that it becomes a living, breathing 341 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: work of art that evolves and affects people, and that 342 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: you can shape a business in a way to affect 343 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: people truly for good, truly for changing the world. Whereas 344 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: the work of art, at some point it's static. You 345 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: hope it might move someone in one way or another. 346 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: You hope it might have like gotten your you know, 347 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: yah yah's out or whatever by making it. But the 348 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: business is like alive, but it's still not as alive 349 00:18:51,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: as of human It's not what would be your last meal, 350 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: My last meal would be I mean, without a doubt, 351 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Number one has to be with my dad, because it'll 352 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: taste better, but it was our favorite food to eat together. 353 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: My mom makes these samosas, which is an Indian thing, 354 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: but my dad was from Tanzania, so they had the 355 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: East African Indian version of the samosa is a little different, 356 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: so you can't just get it in a restaurant. Anything 357 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: in a restaurant or any Indian food for me that 358 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: I buy somewhere, it's not the same. But she makes 359 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: these incredible samosa as my mom, and you take a 360 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: bite and you sweeze some lemon and it's like this 361 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: perfect philo dough around this like heavily spiced ginger and 362 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: garlic meat filling. And then my dad had this chi 363 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: his chi. I know how to make his chi. That 364 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: would be my last meal. I would eat that every 365 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: day if I could. I like that idea of like, yeah, 366 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: it would not just be my last meal, it would 367 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: be my every single day meal. Maybe she can teach us. 368 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: I had to make it, but I don't have the 369 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: patience to learn from her. You know that sounds like 370 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: a very good granny granddaughter. Past time for an afternoon? 371 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Can you tell me about something that has grown out 372 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: of a personal disaster? Well, may I have two answers, 373 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: so I don't want to one is silly, you can 374 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: answer both. I don't mind silly and serious. We had 375 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: this dog named Willie, and Willie was like, you know, 376 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: like the love of your life. He came into our 377 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: lives before we had autism, and he was just this 378 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: like perfect esthetically perfect being and so intuitive, you know, 379 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: like when my dad passed away, he wouldn't even let 380 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: me go to the bathroom alone, like he just stayed 381 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: with me. And then I mean, when Zane was diagnosed 382 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: with autism, he wouldn't leave me. And there were times 383 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: like we moved from this tiny little apartment in Jersey 384 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: City to this weird Connecticut house, and there are times 385 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: where I'd be putting Zane down and he'd be flailing 386 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: around and I don't know, he accidentally hit me one 387 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: time and it wasn't on purpose, but it made me 388 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: cry because I just it's just every once in a while, 389 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: it just something makes you cry and you need to 390 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: and I just hear this, like this dog would come 391 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: and he's just like paw opened the door and he 392 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: would jump on the bed and he wrapped himself around 393 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: your neck and licks the tears off, and that was 394 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: like my Willie. He was incredible, and uh he ended 395 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: up getting diagnosed with cancer and we went all in 396 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: and we yield him. Actually he was fine. He ended 397 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: up passing away afterwards after conquering cancer with an accident. 398 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: But before that, we took a biopsy and I found 399 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: a place to clone him. Oh my god, are your 400 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: dog well? So what happened was because Willie was so 401 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he was like so special, you know, and 402 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: we were so lonely, and they knew him. My son 403 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: knew him. And it's not like he loves all animals, 404 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: but he knew Willie and he had the makings of 405 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: the perfect autism therapy dog. So I'm thinking, okay, well, 406 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: if we can get him back, then we can try 407 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: him and he will become the perfect autism therapy dog 408 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: because he has that intuitive It was uncanny. So I 409 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: went ahead and pulled the trigger. I said, okay, do it. 410 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: And then they implanted an embryo and didn't work, and 411 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: they called me and they said just keep going, and 412 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: I said okay. So they implanted another embryo, didn't work. 413 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: So then the third time they said, okay, well we 414 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: can do too. That way we'll increase the odds. Are 415 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: you okay with putting two? And you know, I'm just thinking, 416 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, to baby cute little willies like of course, like, 417 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: let's just do it. Like And so the irony is 418 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: I have two labor roodles. They look exactly like Willie. 419 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: And because they're literally themselves, I couldn't then say, oh no, 420 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: we only want one because they're both Willie. But because 421 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: there's two of them, they could never be a notto 422 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: some therapy dog because they have each other. You can't 423 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: train them because they have each other. They're like incredible. 424 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: They're as human as Willie was. It's not like their 425 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: science experiments. And they look exactly like him, and they 426 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: have many of the same characteristics, but they have unique personalities. 427 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wish I cloned my dog. I know. 428 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: So now Joe and I have our own autism therapy dogs. 429 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: That is completely extraordinary. That's actually one of the best 430 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: stories I think I've ever heard. But it's kind of 431 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: off brand, but it is. Actually it's a reversal of 432 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: that question, or maybe it adds its own addendum. So 433 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: in your life, can you tell me something that grew 434 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: out of a personal disaster. Well, yeah, my dog died, 435 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: but I cloned him. I'm gonna try to show you 436 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: what Willie looked like. I don't know if you can 437 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: see this. Oh my god, I'm looking at a picture 438 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: of both of them. God, it is actually really weird. 439 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: You're looking at the same dog. That's wild to me. 440 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Anything is possible, So then why don't we have a 441 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: novel therapy or preventative measure or cure for autism? But 442 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: if you ask me who changed your life? I mean, 443 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: my son changed my life because it made me realize 444 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: I have so much more to do, and I've learned 445 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: so much. And see what happens is when you've learned 446 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: so much because you can't help but create your own 447 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: PhD and understanding caused this? What could I have done 448 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: differently removing the guilt? But what were the things I 449 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: could have done differently? What would I do differently next time? 450 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Which I did with RuSHA that experience. I mean, I'm 451 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: not I'm not at a place where I like want 452 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: to plug a business, But healthiness to my company is 453 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: that it is saying everything I wish I had learned about. 454 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Like if you're going to have a C section, ask 455 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: for a vaginal swab so you can maintain your baby's 456 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: healthy microbiome from day one. You know, that becomes their 457 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: immune system. Like everything that I learned the first time 458 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: around that didn't go right, that you can control. I 459 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: want to share that with other people because I think 460 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: it can be prevention. I think it can be proactively 461 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: beneficial to our children's health. I think that's absolutely incredible. 462 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to cite the brand that I'm 463 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: thinking of, but the idea of disseminating information that is 464 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: really going to affect change, and not just put an 465 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: overly expensive bubble somewhere up your person to make you 466 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: feel better, to really create a company that's going to 467 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: affect change. I mean that what you just said a 468 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: at the C section, the fashional swob, that's a game 469 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: change that nobody tells mothers that that's free. In China, 470 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: the autism rates the highest in the world. It's one 471 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: in twenty seven in Hong Kong, and in China. You know, 472 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: the cities are like twenty million people. And in China 473 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: they have this thing culturally where they're really into astrology 474 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: and like numerology and being born on the right day 475 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: at the right time. Ah, So c sections are really prevalent, 476 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: and so you think you're doing this thing to have 477 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: this fairly auspicious birth. Oh my god, look at that. 478 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: So when the baby comes through the vaginal canal, whether 479 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: this is empowering to the mother of having the birth 480 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: you wanted or not, the baby's first exposure to bacteria 481 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: happens then comes into their mouth, into their ears there 482 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: are otherwise been sterile their whole life. And then the 483 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: breast milk that you feed them or other milk, but 484 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: it's the oliga sac rides in breast milk are the 485 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: yin to the young of the bacteria. So it feeds 486 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: that bacteria and that becomes your immune system. And so 487 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: if at birth, there's one thing you can do to 488 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: be like, all right, if I end up having a 489 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: C section, I'm gonna take Basically, it's called a vaginal swab, 490 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: and I did it with my daughter after trying for 491 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: forty hours, and we rubbed this gauze all over her, 492 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: in her mouth and in her ears, and we've tested 493 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: her gut health and it is like a one perfect 494 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: She's never had antibiotics, and I think it made a difference. 495 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: I actually did a ted talk in China and I 496 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: said the word vagina on the stage and the translator 497 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: stopped talking and everybody in the audience like freaked out, 498 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: and then that he had to leave, and then a 499 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: woman came and took his place, because I was trying 500 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: to tell them about that a man couldn't even say 501 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: she has. I'm so fascinated. I've written about a million 502 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: notes of things that I'm going to go and research. 503 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, really, thank you so much. Of course, it's 504 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: my pleasure, so fun meeting you. You can hear more 505 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: from Chassis on her upcoming podcast, The Healthy Baby Show. 506 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: The show will explore a number of debated topics in parenting, 507 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: including control, postpartum health, fertility, gut health, and well being. 508 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: The trailer for The Healthy Baby Show will be released 509 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: on March sixteenth, and I'll be on her first episode 510 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, March. 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