1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: This is a young team. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: We're on the cuz they're hungry to get better. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: Peers running rice tend barrels this way down the forty 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 3: one yard line. 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: We want to run by Piers. 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 4: These are the type of guys, the type of men 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 4: that we want in our locker room. 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Ten or top betch christ Jan Harris. 9 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Game day is every day love the energy. 10 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: Nicked up by Stateley Pultrey. 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Texans out football on the pit. 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: And if you want it, you gotta go work. 13 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 5: No, it's Texans all xcess. 14 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 6: So let's work, baby. 15 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday night, Texans All Access. Now, usually you 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: hear Mark Vanruy's voice, but Mark has been out, as 17 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I've noted all week long. 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 6: He's gonna make it up to me next week by 19 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 6: just being there. 20 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: But that's okay. We're having a good time night. John 21 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Harris Football on a Syeline reporter, Gonna be joined by 22 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey a little bit later. I've an interview that 23 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: we did on media Days, catching up with the middle 24 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: imbacher Christian Kirksey. I wonder what his role is well'st 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: our guest. I don't even know if it's our guest. 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: I texted him today just to make sure that he 27 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: wanted to come on tonight with me, and that's John McClain, 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: and he said, absolutely, I'm a Thursday institution. I hated 29 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: say quite like that, but I kind of got the point. 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: Good evening, John McClain, the general, How are you doing. 31 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 6: My friend? 32 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 7: I'm doing great. And I did not say institution. I 33 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 7: said I'm ready to go every Thursday night. I don't 34 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 7: even know why it would have crossed your mind that 35 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 7: I wouldn't want to come on just because Mark's not on. 36 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: No general, I was hoping. I just wanted to check 37 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: in with you, and I'm glad that year you're definitely here. 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: I've got Christian Kirksey coming on later, and I've got 39 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people that have stopped me and asked 40 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: me about what's Christian role? What's Christian's role this year? 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey, because obviously gott to be clear. Christian Harris, 42 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: what do you think his role is John this year? 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: A does he make the team? Be If he does 44 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: make the team, what is his role? Do you think 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: he's a starter? Do you think he's he's a complimentary 46 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: piece on sub package? What do you think Christian Kirksey's 47 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: role is in twenty twenty three for this team. 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 7: I believe it's only a matter of time. For you've 49 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 7: got two Alabama linebackers starting, and since they're gonna play 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 7: Nickel most of the time, Touto and Harris would be 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 7: starting a linebacker. And you know, Nick Casario talked to 52 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 7: Henry like crazy when he went on with Sean Bender 53 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 7: guest and Seth Payne. And for Nick to praise somebody, 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 7: that's unusual. Anybody walked watched him at Alabama knows he's 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 7: a tackling machine. He's smart, and he works hard. And 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 7: those older guys make more money. And uh, you've got 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 7: three veteran linebackers Lyttleton, Harryman and Kirksey, and is only 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 7: I'm guessing they're going to keep two. And who who 59 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 7: stays better play special teams? 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't I can't remember the last time 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: any one of those three play special teams. Maybe Littleton. 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I think Littleton actually made the Pro Bowl one year 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: on special team, so he might end up being that guy. 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: And of course, Denzel Perramian's coming off an injury. Christian 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Kirkchi played all last year, so you know, injuries could 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 1: could solve the issue unfortunately. 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 6: General. 68 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this quick story for I get the 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: matics question about Henry Toatoa. This was the training camp 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, so his training camp twenty twenty one, 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: and so I was off of my corner watching training camp, 72 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: and I had one of the Texans scouts. 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 6: Here's a scout, and we just happened to be talking. 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I asked where he had been 75 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and he said, oh, I was in Tuscaloosa, and oh. 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: We start talking about all the different prospects and we're like, oh, man, 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: thirty one is pretty good. Huh yeah, boy would be 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: fun if you were a Texan. And he is will Anderson. 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: We started talking about the prospects and we got to 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Henry to Atoa and he said, John, he's been calling 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: the defense from day one. And so the scout or 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: whomever was I was talking to had been there like 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: day two or three. Tootoe was already in charge of 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the defense on day two. And that was with Christian 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Harris there at Alabama who had been there for I 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: think two years prior, and Tooto had already taken control. 87 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Now he knew the defense from Tennessee. But the fact 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: that he had already come in and was running that 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: defense with all the alphas that they had on it, 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was a that was that was an 91 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: incredible thing at that particular point. But keep an eye 92 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: on Henry Toatoe. There's no doubt, General put it best. 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Those two Alabama linebackers could be back together. General, let's 94 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: look at corner, because I've been thinking about corner. 95 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 7: On one second, John, excuse me. I watched a lot 96 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 7: of Alabama games because I wanted to see Bill O'Brien 97 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 7: what he did with the offense. And when I saw 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 7: how great Briance Young was, I watched him again this 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 7: year because I thought there was a good chance Texans 100 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 7: would be drafting Briance Young. And I remember when they 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 7: were on defense keep hearing too to Tea Too was 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 7: a tackle toa Tod chased him out of bounds, and 103 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 7: I was thinking, I wonder how he spell his name, 104 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 7: and so I looked at it up and I thought, man, 105 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 7: I'm sure a'b doesn't come to the Texan shot the 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 7: announcin spell his name. And I'm wondering now, because it 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 7: was should have been a great pick. Why was he 108 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 7: available in the fifth round. He played for Nick Saban. 109 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 7: He starred for Saban, And why did he last until 110 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 7: he did? And I'm glad they jumped all over him 111 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 7: when they had the opportunity. Why do you think he 112 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 7: was available at the fifth. 113 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: I think one of the things, general is just size. 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing. I mean, you see him, 115 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean he looks pretty thick. I mean, his lower 116 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: body's pretty thick. But he I think he only meag 117 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: measured at two hundred and twenty seven pounds. Now, we've 118 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: seen linebackers shrink in the NFL basically, I mean that's 119 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the way it seems. I mean, we no longer have 120 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: the Ted Johnson's or the Benardrick McKinney's, or the Bryan Cushings. 121 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have two fifty five anymore. In fact, 122 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: Pine Seule's brother, Noah Sewell, was up at Oregon in 123 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one. 124 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 6: He was two hundred and sixty. 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: Pounds and they're like, bro, you you got to lose 126 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: some weight. He ended up measuring at the combine at 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: two forty one. And so I think, you know, that's 128 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: about the sweet spot for some linebackers. But I think 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: for to a toy it was just the fact that 130 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: he ended up at two twenty five to twenty seven. 131 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not the biggest guy in the world, 132 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: and so I think there were some people that probably 133 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: feared that a little bit. But I'm look, I'm We've 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: all seen players that end up falling for some reason. 135 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Look Charles Amene who a few a few years ago 136 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: when you go the fifth round and he was the 137 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: big twelve defensive player of the year, came to Houston, 138 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: showed what he can do. Then over the next couple 139 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: of years you saw kind of why. All right, I 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: can see why. You know, he doesn't love to play inside, 141 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: he's not as physical inside. 142 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 6: So maybe some of those things show up for Henry Toyotoa. 143 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: But as far as what you get from look if 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: the if all you get from him is subpackage and 145 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: special teams to start as a rookie or even in 146 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: the first two years, I mean, that's pretty solid. Gettinghim 147 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: on day three, you know, there's no question about that. 148 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: But gener when we're talking, I was thinking about the 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: second okay, all. 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 7: On, I got something else. Oh okay. I looked up 151 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 7: all of the forty nine ers defensive starters at linebacker 152 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 7: and the secondary, their age where they were drafted, in 153 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 7: their size, and all the linebackers were twenty for anywhere 154 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 7: from two twenty five to two point thirty. Damiko wants 155 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 7: them to be able to run, and of course they 156 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 7: got to be able to hit. And they all said 157 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 7: that he worked really hard in coverage. So I can't 158 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 7: wait to see him get into training camp, especially to 159 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 7: joint practice. Okay, what do you want to ask me 160 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 7: about the secondary? 161 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt and keep and eye. 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Drake Greenlow was the guy that went to seventh round 163 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: ended up being a stud for the forty nine ers. 164 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 6: It still is. 165 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the guy Henry Toatoa can probably emulate. 166 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: So we'll see that. But I was thinking about secondary. 167 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Derek Stingly looked. I thought, really really good OTAs Uh 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and mini camp the other side. 169 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously Stephen. 170 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Nelson played pretty well last year, but they went on 171 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: and got Shaq Griffin. Do you see that as a 172 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: true training camp competition, John, with Stephen Nelson and Shaqgriffin 173 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: or do you think that No, it's Nelson for sure, 174 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: and Griffin is the guy that might slide inside if 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: they've got to do some things on passing downs. How 176 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: do you think they play that spot opposite Derek Stingley 177 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: With Shaqgriffin now in the fold alongside Stephen Nelson. 178 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up. John. I have a 179 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 7: column posted this morning of sports Radio six ten dot 180 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 7: com ten Things We Learned, and I said, what was 181 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 7: Stephen Nelson and Sheldon Rankins? Thinking Nelson's in the last 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 7: jer's contract? Sorry about that? You're still there? Yeah, I'm 183 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 7: still here and he turned thirty years old ninth season. 184 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 7: You don't stay away when you have a new coaching staff, 185 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 7: news system. And of course the coaches will never say 186 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 7: this because it's voluntary. You don't have to be there. 187 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 7: You can just show up for the mandatory mini camp. 188 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 7: But I'll guarantee you if it's a tie, the tie 189 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 7: is going to go to the guy that was here 190 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 7: busting his butt all the time for the new coaches, 191 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 7: a new coordinator. I just think it was very foolish 192 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 7: in this situation. If you're Laramie Tonsel, you're the best 193 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 7: player on the team, you don't have to be there. 194 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 7: You slide right in, you start, You're another have another 195 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 7: Pro Bowl and all Pro season. But for guys who 196 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 7: are thirty are approaching thirty, like Nelson and Rankins, I 197 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 7: think you're playing with fire. Now. These science kill Griffin 198 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 7: because Nelson wasn't there, and so they had to start 199 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 7: him because he wasn't there. But if Nelson comes back 200 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 7: the way they're loyal to veterans who've been here. I'm 201 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 7: sure he's going to go to camp number one outside 202 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 7: opposite Stingley. But if he doesn't play like he did 203 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 7: last year, and he played well last year, then Griffin 204 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 7: and if he does perform, he'll be starting. I saw 205 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 7: a thing last week Pro Football Focus today at the 206 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 7: top ten slot corners in the NFL. Last year, tavia 207 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 7: Or Thomas was four, and he had more snaps in 208 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 7: the slot than any of the other top ten. Now 209 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 7: that's because Desmond King had to go outside because Stingley 210 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 7: was hurt so much. And so I'm wondering, now, who's 211 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 7: gonna be the slot corner if all those guys are healthy. 212 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 7: But I'm guessing it's gonna be Nelson with Griffin trying 213 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: to beat him Outdred Griffin still knew, you know, he's 214 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 7: he's learning a lot. They signed him late, but if 215 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 7: Nelson plays like he did last year, I expect him 216 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 7: to be the starter. 217 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: John, What do you think the role is for Desmond King? 218 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: Because he's a guy that he's played that inside spot 219 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, he played the inside spot for 220 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: like three or four games, then he went outside and 221 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: played outside pretty much the rest of the season. Last 222 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: year with some you know injuries, you know, when Steven 223 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: went down a little bit, but mainly when Sting went down, 224 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Desmond slid back out there, and obviously it played a 225 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: lot of his own and a lot of covered you know, 226 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: cover two, cover four, but does make some plays when 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: he's out there. Do you think he is solely an 228 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: inside guy? 229 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 6: John? 230 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: Do you think he can slide outside in certain situations? 231 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: How do you look at Desmond King's role, especially with 232 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Tap Thomas coming back as. 233 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 7: Well, with the way coaches love versatility, the fact he 234 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 7: can do both as a feather and his cat. He 235 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 7: can return too. You know, I would imagine that Tank 236 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 7: Dell is gonna be the returner because watching him in 237 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 7: the off season program, even though nobody was hitting hitting him, 238 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 7: he's got that extra gear and he's just so quick. 239 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 7: He makes such quick cuts and he accelerates. He's so explosive. 240 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 7: I can't wait to see him in games, can't wait 241 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 7: to see him in the joint practices. But I think 242 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 7: it's gonna be tough at Corner. They'll keep five, I'm guessing, 243 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 7: and Corner has definitely got better depths in safety. 244 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt, don't I don't mind the safety 245 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: grew with Jalen and Jimmy and then MJ and Eric. 246 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got some experience combined with some youth 247 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: back there, but beyond that, you're Baylor, Bear, Grayland Arnold. 248 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: That could be a guy to look at at safety. 249 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: I think he's moving back to safety. I don't say 250 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: full time. I don't know if anybody ever does anything 251 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: full time when they're not a full starter. I mean, 252 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: you play basically wherever you think you can play generally. 253 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: The other night I had on Kenyon green Mark and 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I did and we talked to Kenyon. 255 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: He's a he's a man. A few words. 256 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a whole heck of a lot to say, 257 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's just natural for him. But how 258 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: much and I'm not saying he's feeling this, But how 259 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: much pressure do you think there is for Kenyon to 260 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: be successful this year? Yes, it's his second year, but 261 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: given how year one went for him, whether he was 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: banged up or just not playing exceptionally, well, how much 263 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: pressure do you think there is on Kenyon Green to 264 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: perform at a relatively high level in just year two. 265 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 7: Well, he better be feeling the pressure because he's got 266 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 7: it on him. You know, when they used the fifteenth 267 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 7: pick on him and he flashed a little bit, he 268 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 7: missed some time, and then it looked like the more 269 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: time went on, the war teams figured out he could 270 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 7: be bull rushed. And I'm guessing that he's worked like 271 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 7: crazy on his upper body. But when you're recovering from 272 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 7: knee surgery, you know, so much of your strength comes 273 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 7: from your butt and your legs, and when you're recovering 274 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 7: from knee surgery, can't work on it. And I know 275 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 7: he wants to be back. It would mean a lot 276 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 7: to them if he could come back and be close 277 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 7: to full speed. I'm going to guess they're going to 278 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 7: take it easy on him like they did Steingley and 279 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 7: Christian Harris and other guys. But he is under a 280 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 7: lot of pressure. Because of where he's from, Houston, A 281 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 7: and M first round pick, he has the ability. I 282 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 7: think that Shaq Mason, who I'm told is a tremendous 283 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 7: guy off the field, and I wrote in this column 284 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 7: that I thought two offensive captains could be Robert Woods 285 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 7: and Shaq Mason. And I think Mason will help him 286 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 7: a lot. But he knows he got embarrassed at times 287 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 7: last season. He doesn't want to see Washington again. He 288 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 7: won't have to for four years, but he was broad 289 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 7: here because he's talented and he's a good run blocker. 290 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 7: Jack Mason's a good run blocker. They want to run 291 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 7: the ball with Demiko and Bobby Sloweck. That's the first 292 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 7: thing they want to do, and that'll sure help CJ. Stroud. 293 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 7: So I think Kenyon Green he's too talented not to 294 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 7: bounce back, and since most players improve their most between 295 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 7: their first and second season, I look for him to 296 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 7: be a different player. 297 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: John one of the I can't remember how long ago 298 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Mark and I do this, and I just had this thought. 299 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I was walking back from practice and I was kind 300 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: of watching players walk by, and I was like, man, 301 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: that guy's got to play sixteen games this year. He's 302 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: got to play a full schedule this year, and it 303 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: got me thinking about what players the Texans can ill 304 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: afford to lose. Obviously, minus quarterback, and we hope that 305 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: CJ could play a whole season. 306 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 6: We'll talk about him in just a second. 307 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: But outside of quarterback, what two or three players do 308 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the Texans absolutely, without question, have to have for sixteen 309 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: seventeen games, And hopefully if they're playing that many games, 310 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: they're playing pretty well. But I would say the most 311 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: indispensable players. Guys you can't do with that. I don't 312 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: know how you want to phrase it, but essentially two 313 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: or three players that in your mind, the Texans can 314 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: ill afford to lose to have a successful season like 315 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: they lose these guys, not that they're going to go 316 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: over the over the edge and not have a successful season, 317 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: but to be even more successful than maybe they think 318 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: they've got to have these players. 319 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 6: Who do you think those players are in your. 320 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 7: Opinion, Jeremy Tonzo because he's the best player on the 321 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 7: team and because he is the best pass blocker, one 322 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 7: of the best in the league, and he protects the quarterback. 323 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 7: Charlie Hagg's coming off with injury, he's been reabvid. Michael 324 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 7: Dieter gonna be the guard until unless Kenyon Green comes back. 325 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 7: Number two, Damien Piers. Damien Piers. We saw what happened 326 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 7: to the running game last year when he missed the 327 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: last four in parts of another one in the running 328 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 7: Game went straight down the toilet, which is one reason 329 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 7: Nick Casario signed Devin Singletary. And I look for that 330 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 7: split to be about sixty forty with Singletary again most 331 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 7: of the obvious passing situations, but with Pierce's style, physical 332 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 7: style where he looks for trouble, and I think they 333 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 7: can't afford to lose him. Defensively, they got one pass 334 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 7: rusher who stands out, Will Anderson Jr. They could not 335 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 7: afford to lose him. He's going to be their best 336 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 7: defensive player, their best pass rusher. Favored to win NFL 337 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 7: Defensive Rookie of the Year, because if you don't have 338 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 7: pass rushers Derek Stanley, Jalen Petrie, those guys are put 339 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 7: in such a predicament if you can't. I showed the quarterback, 340 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 7: so I'm going to say, Will Anderson, I think. 341 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: That's a good one. I said therek Stingly the other day. 342 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: And I know this is a division that is I 343 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: don't say dominated by the run. But you know Derrick 344 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Henry Travis e Tianna John to Taylor that you got 345 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: to come up and stop the run. I don't think 346 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: it's any question about that. But I think Stingley offers 347 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: at full full health. I think he offers something different. 348 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we noticed how much bigger he was, how 349 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: much thicker he was, But yeah, Will Anderson Junior, He's 350 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: got to be the truth. 351 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 6: There's no question about that. 352 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: John. There was a look controversy with Colin Cowherd this 353 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: week who said that c J. Stroud and he'd been 354 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: compared to Dak Prescott. I think Noah Brown was asking 355 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: about that. It wasn't It didn't come out as hey, 356 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: compare CJ to Dak. It's just Noah took the conversation 357 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: in that direction. So Colin Cowherd picked up on that, 358 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: of course reading headlines and started saying, no, c J. 359 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Stroud won't be as good essentially as Dak Prescott. And 360 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: he went into reasons why, and then he used old 361 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: old well he's no high to state quarterback, which I 362 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: think is the worst argument you can ever use. Because 363 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State basically didn't have NFL type quarterbacks minus Dwayne Haskins, 364 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: and that just didn't work out. Point being what you 365 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: make of what Coward said that CJ. Stroud won't be 366 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: as good as Dak Prescott. Your thoughts on that when 367 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: you heard. 368 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 7: That, That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, 369 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 7: because you don't have a clue how good CJ. Stroud's 370 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 7: going to be, and you don't have a clue how 371 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 7: good Dak Prescott could get a whole lot better and 372 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 7: be great consistently win super Bowls for the Cowboys. You 373 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 7: don't know that. That's just kind of got thing. And 374 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 7: I don't care give a hoot about what Colin Coward says. 375 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 7: I saw the headlines. I paid no attention. I felt 376 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 7: bad for Noah Brown since he played five seasons with 377 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 7: Prescott and he was trying to be complimentary of Stroud. 378 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 7: Now he'll be scared to say anything. By the way, 379 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 7: the coaches really like Noah Brown. He can play all 380 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 7: over the place, great size, he's not used up start 381 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 7: thirteen games last season, and he played the best he's played. 382 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 7: He came here for opportunity, But I thought, boy you 383 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 7: talk about a stretch trying to make mountain out of 384 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 7: a mowheel, that was it. 385 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: That is that's June. That's June. Mini camps are over 386 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: training camp. Not quite here, that's June radio talk right there. 387 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: Compare those two. Some producer for his show is like, 388 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: I got this, run this by Colin. He'll take this 389 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: and run with it. And of course he's getting blasted 390 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: because I just look at CJS Stroud and Dak Prescott 391 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: is two different quarterbacks. 392 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 6: But you know that's I don't know. 393 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's some stylistically style things that are the same, 394 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: but for the most part, man, I don't I don't 395 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: quite see it. 396 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 6: John. 397 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: The NFL is having a really hard time getting a 398 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: team for hard knocks. 399 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 6: So I'll ask it as simply as I possibly could. 400 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: It's hard knocks over in the NFL because teams won't cooperate. 401 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 7: Well, they can make him show some football's grow a pair. 402 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 7: Make the Jets do it. It doesn't matter what the 403 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 7: Jets want. Bill O'Brien didn't want to did it, do it, 404 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 7: and they did it, and they won it came back, 405 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 7: they finished I think nine and seven that year, and 406 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 7: Detroit did it during the season. I don't know that 407 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 7: i'd want to do it during the season because I 408 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 7: watched every I've watched, and I'm sorry not they did 409 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 7: it their's on and I watched every episode because I 410 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 7: want to see j jj and and Hopkins and that 411 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 7: it was great. I've always liked Hard Knocks, but you 412 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: can't let a team like the Jets that hadn't done 413 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 7: Jack Squat tell you what to do, and uh, it's not. 414 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 7: I listened to Bill Polly and ripping Hard Knocks talking 415 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 7: about all those things, what a problem it is, and 416 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 7: I'm thinking, Bill so there everybody called him and told 417 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 7: them coaches, never do it again. I've heard a bunch 418 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 7: of coaches saying they loved it. You know, Jerry Jones 419 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 7: is probably volunteered. He's he loves Hard Knocks and the 420 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 7: attention that brings. So nobody wants to see New Orleans, 421 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 7: Chicago or Washington. They'd said be Jets or bust. And 422 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 7: if they're having as much trouble getting a team for camp, 423 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 7: what's it going to be like in regular season? They're 424 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 7: talking about Washington being the team in regular season, and 425 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 7: I wouldn't want to do anything to bring attention to 426 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 7: Dan Snyder because of all the controversy. But it's got 427 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 7: to be the Jets. I feel bad for HBO because 428 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 7: they've done a great job with Hard Knocks, and the 429 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 7: teams get to approve anything that's on there, so there's 430 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 7: nothing they don't want. 431 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I tell you what. 432 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: That end season Hard Knocks John with Arizona, it was 433 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: a I think we think again at four and thirteen, 434 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: I think was the record if my math is correct. 435 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: It was the most compelling thing on television. I mean 436 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: it was incredible. I mean obviously seeing Hop and seeing 437 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: JJ kind of tug at your heartstrings a little bit. 438 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: But the way they handled JJ's retirement, the way they 439 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: showed Hop and the different charity events that he had 440 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: going on for beating into abuse mothers, I mean, it 441 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: was incredible. And then you know all the behind the 442 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: scenes stuff, you know, Kyler Murray got hurt, just what 443 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: they were going through. I mean, it was really the 444 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: nd season Hard Knocks has been incredible, even. 445 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 6: The Colts the year before. 446 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, just the disaster at the end, and you're 447 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: watching this and it's the most compelling, you know, television 448 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: you could you could possibly think of now when it 449 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: comes to compelling television for the NFL, A lot of 450 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: times it's the draft. Well, John, tonight is the NBA Draft, 451 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: and this question really has nothing to do with I 452 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: guess the NBA Draft. But other than the fact that 453 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: the NBA has their draft, I think it's probably what 454 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: three weeks two, three weeks after the season was over. 455 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: Do you think the NFL would. 456 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: Be better off having a draft that was a lot 457 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: sooner than late April, given the fact that college season 458 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: is over on January tenth or eleventh. Would you like 459 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: to see the NFL draft moved up and have it 460 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot earlier so that you can maybe get to 461 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: the off season earlier or whatever. How do you think 462 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: the NFL would change if they moved the draft up? 463 00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Maybe a month or so? 464 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 7: They couldn't make any more stake mistakes than they already do, 465 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 7: despite spending millions and millions and millions on scouting. Now 466 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 7: there's a lot of people that think no coach should 467 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 7: be able to be interviewed to l after the Super 468 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 7: Bowl to make it fair for everybody. Well, then they 469 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 7: woul no way they'd want to move it up. I 470 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 7: like it where it is. When I started covering the NFL. 471 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 7: It was eighteen rounds the draft, and it was over 472 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 7: three days, and there was no ESPN. You just waited 473 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 7: for a phone call from the NFL to tell you 474 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 7: what it was and you slap a name under the 475 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 7: team next to the round. And then when ESPN came in, 476 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 7: it was had took it into a whole nother level. 477 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 7: The NFL network made it even better. So I like 478 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 7: it the way it is. It's the NFL. The only 479 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 7: time the NFL doesn't dominate is in this period right here. 480 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 7: But if guys keep getting suspended for gambling and taking 481 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 7: carry on bags to the airport with two loaded handguns 482 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 7: and bullets, and uh, there's so many compelling things. Aaron 483 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 7: Rodgers want legalized psychedelics. There's a lot of good stories 484 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 7: going on right now where it's still in the news, 485 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 7: and I know this, it's that, Uh boy, I can't 486 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 7: wait to find out who the first pick in the 487 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 7: NBA draft's gonna be. 488 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder who's that who that's gonna be, 489 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: because that's gonna impact the rockets to it for so 490 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm definitely for that. 491 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 6: John. 492 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: What you got going on at sports Radio six ' 493 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: ten dot com. And you are on tomorrow with the 494 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: guys in the afternoon. Is that correct. 495 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 7: I'll be on with them tomorrow Every Friday at four o'clock. 496 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 7: I've got columns on the astros, columns on what we 497 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 7: learned from Texans Mini camp, and I'll have a bunch 498 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 7: more next week. John, thank you very much. It's always 499 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 7: a pleasure. 500 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely general the same here, it is a pleasure. John McClain, 501 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: the General. Go check his workout at Sorts Radio six 502 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: y ten and tomorrow will be on with Clint and 503 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: the Show. 504 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 6: I still gonna call him the Show. 505 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: I know he's probably gonna be run now because of 506 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: I bet, but that's okay. We're fine with that. And 507 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: of course t Mills. So make sure you check John out. 508 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: And I think it's Wednesday eight am. It looks I'm 509 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: a p one, so it's Wednesday eight am. I think 510 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: it's Tuesday at eleven. I believe on in the loop. 511 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: So make sure you check out John each and all 512 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: of those times right there on Sports Radio six ' ten. 513 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. Christian Kirksey is gonna join us next. 514 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: The inside linebacker for the Texans, gives us his thoughts 515 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: on what he sees in this defense, what he sees 516 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: in the linebacker room. We'll have Christian Kirksey for you 517 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: next right here on Texans All Access. 518 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 5: Chickson's radio continues. In a moment, Chickson's Radio is back. 519 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Yes, it is John Harrison Cappert's seat, Footballano sideline reporter 520 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans getting ready. A little over a 521 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: month from training camp, NBA Draft tonight, Rockets sitting at 522 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: number four. Got a feel. We know who's going number one, 523 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: as John said, Victor Wembayana is. 524 00:25:59,240 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 6: Going number one. 525 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: After that, it gets really interesting too, and watching the 526 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: rumors kind of all day, and I know people like, wait, 527 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: it's you're an NFL guy, John, No, no, no, no, listen. I'm 528 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: a sports I'm a sports guy and I love every 529 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: draft imaginable, doesn't matter. I watch the NHL Draft. I'll 530 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: watch any draft they put out. I always, I always 531 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: love a draft that. I've always been a big fan 532 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: of the NBA draft. It's just gotten to a point 533 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: where I don't really follow overtime elite all that much, 534 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: so I don't really know who everybody is. I know 535 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: Victor because everybody was talking about him after that. I 536 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: watched Brandon Miller a lot, but I like Scoot Henderson. 537 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: Would be kind of interesting to see which way the 538 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Rockets go. Does Brandon Miller get the four toes, Scoot 539 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: Henderson get the four I'm and Thompson you see the 540 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: guy for I've heard a lot of talk about him. 541 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: I heard Seanna sat talking about that today. So NBA 542 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Draft coming up, looking forward to it, and I know 543 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Chris tell me, if I'm correct, Adams splaying and Brandon 544 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Scott are gonna be following me with a draft show 545 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: that they'll have you covered. 546 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 6: So keep it locked right here. I know I am. 547 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be listening to those guys as I take 548 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: off on the way home. 549 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 6: So it's gonna be fun. 550 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Those two guys the the Rockets inside out to take 551 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: a listen to the podcast. Man, those guys are true 552 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Bawler's abs playing and Brandon Scott also true baller. Guy's 553 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: been around the league for a long time. It's Christian Kirksey. 554 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: What's his role this year? What is he gonna be? 555 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Is he gonna start? Is he gonna be a key backup? 556 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be veteran leadership? Uh? Is he gonna 557 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: make the team with a linebackers on our team, Christian Kirksey. 558 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: Interesting spot and then he's been in the last couple 559 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: of years where he was the guy, he was the 560 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: green dot, he was the leader on defense. Has that changed, 561 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: does need a change? Should it change? We'll find out 562 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: in due time, but it's always good to catch up 563 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: with Christian Kirksey talk about the changes in this defense, 564 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: what he sees from the young linebackers in his room. 565 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Pretty good time talking with Christian Kirksey. 566 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 6: Mark me, Christian, and let's go. 567 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: Christian Kirksey joining us in studio. Great to have you back, Yes, 568 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: great to be been a few minutes. 569 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it has, it has. Life goes fast, it. 570 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: Does, all right, So here you are and your elder 571 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: States been insidelnebacker demico' Ryans comes in. What's that relationship 572 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 3: like so far with you and the head coach who 573 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: played the position. 574 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: So I think we got an awesome relationship. 575 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: It's funny because I'm like in a student in the 576 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 4: student role right in my mindset when when he's talking, 577 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 4: because he's been somewhere where I want to go, and 578 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: that's you know, being in the league, being dominated in 579 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: the league. And when you have somebody that you know 580 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: has done it at a high level, your all ears 581 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 4: And that's what I've that's what I've been. It's almost 582 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: like I'm a rookie again when I'm listening to him, 583 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: because I really take value into what he's saying. So 584 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: for me, I think this would be great for my 585 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: career to be able to have a coach who played 586 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 4: my position and to tell me what I may need 587 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: to get better at what I'm doing wrong. And I 588 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: just take everything that he say and I try to 589 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: apply it to my game. 590 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Christian, how different is this defense from anything you've you've 591 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: been in before. I mean you've been around the league, 592 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: so I know you've and and look, there's only so 593 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: many different ways you can dress something up. You know, 594 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play cover three, it's cover three. 595 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: You know. 596 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of how things are called, maybe 597 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: some different focal points that you have to look at 598 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: and things like that. But thus far, how have you 599 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: seen it different from things you've done in the past, 600 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: And how has your adjustment been to it? Ah? 601 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Man, Shoot, I haven't played it in a lot of defense. 602 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say for for for me coming into 603 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: into this defense and and and what I'm learning in 604 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: myself is to play a little more patient. I know 605 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people think like defense got to be fast, 606 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: got to be a step faster than offense. Uh, you know, 607 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: you gotta you know, just be just super fast and 608 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: physical and all that, which you do have to be physical. 609 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: But at the same time, and this defense is like patience, 610 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: like let it, let it, let it unfold, and then 611 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: you attack. And uh, that's something that I think that 612 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: when you know, when you turn in the film and 613 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 4: when you watch the Demko's defenses, everybody is precise in 614 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: where they're going. You know, sometimes you get caught in 615 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: the defense where guys are just running and not really 616 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 4: know where they're running to. In this defense, you got 617 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: to sit and watch and then you attack. And I 618 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 4: think that that's the difference from for me, for from 619 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 4: being around a lot of defenses, that it is more patients, 620 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: especially from a backer. You know, Uh, you see run, 621 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: you may want to just run to a spot, but 622 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: now it's like see see the run, but watch it 623 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: develop and then go. 624 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 625 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: He talked about the four guys up front wreaking havoc 626 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: and linebackers kind of cleaning up the mess. 627 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So you have to read that. 628 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's the patients part of it. 629 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: That's the that's the patients part of it from like 630 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: you know, the big boys up front, they're they're they're 631 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: taught to go. 632 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: So they're gonna, like you said. 633 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: Create hav it, do, do what they gotta do, you know, 634 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: press the line back, you know, and for us, we're 635 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: sitting back there watching it all go down and then 636 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: once unclear, now we attack. So that's that's the thing 637 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: that I'm talking about with that patient, letting the unfold, 638 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: and then that's when your athletes can shine, when you know, 639 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: all right, this is where I'm going, this is where 640 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: the ball is. 641 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 2: Let me go Christian. 642 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Since you've got in the league, the league obviously has 643 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: leaned more towards the passing game. I mean, we've seen 644 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: guys throw for a four thousand, some over five thousand, 645 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: and I think it was in twenty twenty one there 646 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: were seven guys in the league that ran for a 647 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: thousand yards. Maybe it's eight something like that. It was 648 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: a small number. Last year, seventeen guys ran for over 649 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: a thousand yards. Do you see the league kind of 650 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: going back to a I don't think it would be 651 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: run focused. But do you see more teams put a 652 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: focus on the run, And how does that change things 653 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: for you and kind of how. 654 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: You view the game. 655 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: No matter how much the game changes, you have to 656 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: have a good running game. I mean that, I truly 657 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 4: believe that that's where the game is one when you 658 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: can when you're good, extremely good in the run. 659 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's just hard for a defense. 660 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, it's it's easy to it's 661 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: easier to move the ball just handing it off and 662 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: letting the guy run the post. From throwing the ball, 663 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: it's a lot of chances, you know some back it 664 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: happened interception or you know the deflected ball, you know, 665 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: laying in the wrong hands. But when you when you're 666 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: good running the ball and you're running behind your pass 667 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: and you got a strong offensive line that's physical, you 668 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: got to do that for four quarters. And for a defense, 669 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: you know, some guys start turning down hits in the 670 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: fourth quarter because they're like, man, my body is going 671 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: through it. They just pounding and pounding. So I really 672 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: think that that's the ingredient to like a great football 673 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: team where you can run the ball. 674 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 6: Now. 675 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 4: I don't think it's just going to go back. You know, 676 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: twenty years ago it was you know, not everybody bring 677 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: it back full back, you know, full back, you know, 678 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 4: running ice ods, And I don't think the league is 679 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: going to go back that far. But I think when 680 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: you when you establish a run, that is key because 681 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: then it opens up the pass game. Now you can 682 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 4: have your dynamic receivers and great quarterbacks. When you got 683 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: a team that you know is keeping defenses balanced and 684 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: keeping them honest, now you you can do whatever you 685 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 4: want to do and now you're in control. So I 686 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: think that you know, it's a passing league, but when 687 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: you have those teams with great running backs and a 688 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 4: great running scheme, that's dangerous. 689 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: Christian Kirksey with us, all right, we asked you about 690 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: the defense. What are he's seeing in this offense? This 691 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: is a new system. You're facing it in practice all 692 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: the time. What can you tell us about it. 693 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: I'm impressed. I'm impressed from what I've seen with this offense. 694 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 4: You know, we have some great receivers that came in, 695 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: great young receivers, and you know, when Robert Woods got here, 696 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: I thought that that was one of the most underrated, 697 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: you know, things that we did in this off season. 698 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: So tell me about him specifically, because a lot of 699 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: listeners are thinking about that and they're hearing a lot 700 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: of good things about him so far in practice, and 701 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: they're not able to watch it. 702 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 4: So I've been watching Robert, you know, just being in 703 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: the league, and he does the dirty work that a 704 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: lot of receivers don't want to do. And that's that's 705 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 4: being aggressive as being in a blocking game as well. 706 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 4: So like I know, a lot of young receivers may 707 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: not look at that and may not understand that you're 708 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: not going to get the ball every play. You have 709 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: to continue to run your routes even though the ball 710 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: may not even come to you, but you still got 711 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: to run it as if the ball is coming to you. 712 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: And then on the rundowns you have to block. And 713 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 4: every receiver don't want to do that. And when you 714 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: look at Robert, like, that's something that I respect out 715 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: of his game, and I think when you put him 716 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 4: in that leadership role in that room, a lot of 717 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: guys is going to take after that and be like, 718 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: in order to be a great receiver, I have to 719 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: also do things that I may not want to do 720 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 4: and that's block and that's you know, be physical. 721 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: And I feel like. 722 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: That's what Robert brings to this receiver group. And you know, 723 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 4: he's been doing well for us and he's been leading 724 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: and so the short amount of time that he's been 725 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: on his team, just in this OTAs you can just 726 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: tell that he's apologis Vet. 727 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: He's going to be that leader in that room. 728 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: Christian, you've been around. We talked to Denzel about this 729 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: as well. You've been around, You've seen some things. How 730 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: important is it to you to share those things and 731 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: those lessons with the long young guys because you got 732 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: a lot of young linebackers and linebacker corps and I 733 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: know there's a linebackers coach, coach Kiffin. I know that 734 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: Miko has played the position. But I think for players 735 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times, to hear it from you and 736 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: hear it from Denzel, to hear from Vets, it means more. 737 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: How much does it mean to you kind of share 738 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: what you've learned with those guys, especially when they want 739 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: to soak it up and you can share your experiences 740 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: playing a position with them. 741 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: Man, it means a lot. 742 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: When you first entered the league, you have so many questions, 743 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 4: you have so much to learn, and it just takes 744 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 4: me back from when, you know, in twenty fourteen, when 745 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: I first got in the league and I had some 746 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: great vets Carlos Dansby, Craig Robertson, Zach Diws, Tank Carter, 747 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 4: those guys who. 748 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: Gave me all the knowledge I possibly can get. 749 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 4: When you know I have so many questions, I want 750 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 4: to give that right back to the younger guys now 751 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 4: that I'm a older guy in the room, and I 752 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 4: also want to, you know, lead in the way of 753 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 4: this is the NFL. The game is always changing, so 754 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: you're always learning, and the best leaders gives the best 755 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 4: questions or asks the best questions. 756 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: So for me being in that leadership role, I'm asking the. 757 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 4: Questions that they may want to ask for not asking, 758 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: just to understand that, Hey, look, I'm ten years in 759 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 4: and I'm still learning and asking questions and you know, 760 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: being a tentative and you know, still being a student 761 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: of the game, and you know, respecting my coaches even 762 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 4: though you know, I've been in this league for a 763 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 4: long time, but it's still the player coach relationship. I'm 764 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 4: trying to teach guys how to walk in that manner 765 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 4: and how to you know, take their career and be 766 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 4: professional and you do things the right way, then you 767 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 4: can find yourself playing in the league a long time. 768 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm excited to be in this position 769 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 4: where you know, guys that look to me for for 770 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 4: for answers, and I may not have them all, but 771 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: it goes to show that I'm still learning. So you know, 772 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: I'm excited to be in this position. And we got 773 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 4: a lot of great young guys. To be honest, guys, 774 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: guys are playing fast, and you know, I'm excited to 775 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 4: see this room. 776 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: Thanks so, Christian, thanks a lot for being with us. 777 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 778 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 6: Thank you bank, Christian Kirksey. 779 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: There is good catching up with Texans linebacker now going 780 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: into the third year. Man, I said this to uh, gosh, 781 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: you talked to you, Oh, John Garnard is talking to 782 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: John Garnnard, I said, who are the only players that 783 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: have been here longer than you? Continuously? Because Jacob Martin 784 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: is back and he started he started hearing twenty one 785 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: team but continuously, and it was Titus, it was Laramie, 786 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: and then there was John Garnard who was drafted twenty twenty, 787 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: which doesn't seem that long ago, and then twenty twenty one, 788 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: Christian Kerksey in his third year Christian Kerksey Desimond King 789 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. But just shows you this team 790 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: is I don't say young, it is young, but they've 791 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: been together often, that's for sure. They don't have I 792 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: always look at how the team was built. I've always 793 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: looked at those and teams are either interesting and how 794 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: they're put together. 795 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 6: But the best teams have been around, Like at the 796 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 6: forty nine ers. Those guys been there. You'll see some guys, you. 797 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: Know, Kittle was drafted in what seventeen, sixteen, seventeen, something 798 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: like that. Deebo got there in twenty twenty, I think 799 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: it was. So you know, guys have been around a 800 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: little bit. So hopefully the Texans will get there. These 801 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: draft classes they put together will be here for a 802 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: little bit and we'll see what this brings for Christian 803 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: Kirksey in twenty twenty three. 804 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 6: All right, let's go around the NFL. 805 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: A Miami Dolphin is maybe in trouble again again. 806 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 6: Good grief. Is Tyreek Hill ever going to learn? 807 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about that next as we go around 808 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: the NFL right here in Texans All Access. 809 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more on the Houston Texans and the 810 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 5: NFL on Texans All Excess. Back to the show, they 811 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 5: teach you plugged in with the Houston Texans. 812 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, welcome back. Appreciate you being here with me. 813 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 6: John Harris, Football analyst, sideline reporter. 814 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: A quick reminder tonight following our show, we'll get off 815 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: the air here in about five minutes and then we'll 816 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: turn it over to Adams Blaine and Brandon Scott discussion 817 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: discussing the NBA Draft. You know, for some reason, I 818 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: did sixteen hours NFL Draft, but I don't get asked 819 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: back for the NBA Draft, you know whatever I mean, 820 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, I guess. But you know, 821 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: if the guys wanted me to stop in, I can 822 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: make funny comments about suits and everything. By the way, 823 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen Grady Dick's suit that he's wearing tonight, 824 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: it is a red sequined I I'm just I'm blown away. 825 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm blown away. The Kansas Guard you gotta you gotta 826 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: see this. 827 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's hard to even explain. 828 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not quite a keem Elaijawan with the 829 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 1: Tucks and the red boat tie. 830 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 6: But you know, take a look at it. 831 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: But definitely listen to Adams Blaine brand Scott on the 832 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: NBA draft. All right's go on the NFL and start 833 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: with this story, and it's Tyreek Hill. 834 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 6: So typically was Tyreek Hill. It's like, all right, what 835 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 6: did he do? 836 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 7: Now? 837 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: Well, apparently over the week he was at a he 838 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: was on a boat. I'm on a boat, and he 839 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: hit a charter boat employee. So apparently the conflict began 840 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: when Hill's group allegedly boarded boat at the marina without permission, 841 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: and it ended with Hill slapping employee in the back 842 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: of the head. Employees reportedly told police Hill responded to 843 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: their pushback by saying, I can buy you and the boat. 844 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: I'm number ten with the Miami Dolphins. Tyreek Hill has 845 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: had issues dating all the way back to his days 846 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State, and typically they involved him hitting someone 847 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: and here you go. Now, apparently charges were not brought 848 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: against him, but the Marinea employee is pressing charges against 849 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. So obviously there's two sides to every story. 850 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with this. But yeah, I just 851 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: a guy with that sort of history. It's just me, 852 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: but a guy with that sort of history. 853 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 6: I think I would be. 854 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: Going out of my way to stay out of the 855 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: news for those particular things, like, Hey, Tyreek, don't hit 856 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: anybody when you have your hemmel on and you're on 857 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: the field, have at it. Be as violent as you want. 858 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: It's football, within the rules. Obviously outside the game. Don't 859 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: be a jackass, please. But that's obviously not the case. 860 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with Tyreek Hill, and we'll 861 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: see if the NFL gets involved in the suspension of 862 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: any kind. So we'll see what's going on the Dolphins, 863 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: speaking of and the Jets possible destinations for Dalvin Cook. 864 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: And I will say this and kudos to Texans fans, 865 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is one of the best running backs in 866 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: the league. I have not received one Twitter message. I 867 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: have not received I have not seen one iota about 868 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook joining the Texans because Damian Peerson Devin secretary. 869 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: But the last three years I would have seen Dalvin 870 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: Cook like THETA they gotta go get Dalvin Cook, the 871 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: good guy. Uh, thank god, I haven't seen one of 872 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: those notes. Dolphins Jets, Dalvin Cook taking his time, also 873 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: taking his time, DeAndre Hopkins. He is pondering the offers 874 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: that have come, apparently from the Patriots and the Titans. 875 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: This look he's any rush to get to either training camp. 876 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 6: But Tennessee. 877 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: I know he's made an offer. I don't know about 878 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: New England, but he is obviously weighing those. I guess 879 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: I'd go New England. I'd rather see him there than 880 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. But those two will keep an eye on. 881 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 6: Throughout the summer. 882 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and of course former Texan and good friend 883 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: of mine DeAndre Hopkins. All Right, that's gonna do it. 884 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: A big thanks to the General for joining me this evening. 885 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey obviously with me and Mark vandermer So. I 886 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: appreciate him and my man Chris Santiago back in studio. 887 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 6: He's an absolute badass. 888 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: He keeps me on the air, make sure I don't 889 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: say anything wrong, make sure I'm on time. He's the best, 890 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: and you hear him during the day. Sometimes you hear him. 891 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: You may not hear him during the show a lot 892 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: of times, but he's the backbone of what we do. 893 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: So appreciate Chris. Keep it right here. Spoe B Scott, 894 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: NBA Draft coming up. Appreciate you guys. We'll see him 895 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: on as always. Go Texans. 896 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 5: This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ' ten