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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's. How's everybody doing? Fantastic? Fantastic, old man.
Speaker 1: It's been a great week of sports, right it has.
Speaker 1: It's been magnificent, awesome week of smoodness. Because you talk
Speaker 1: about not only did March Madden has come to a conclusion.
Speaker 1: We had both final fours, both of which were in Texas,
Speaker 1: one in Houston for the men the women were here
Speaker 1: in Dallas and it was awesome, unbelievable, super cool. I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese. There's controversy there,
Speaker 1: but honestly that's competitive. Oh yes, I just love watching
Speaker 1: them every ounce of that trash both directions. Yes, two
Speaker 1: of the best players, your trash man since win. Since
Speaker 1: when is it a sin to talk trash talk your
Speaker 1: trash man? I don't know. This world is so sensitive now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you don't ye say the word that
Speaker 1: you want to say. A WFT solved. It's so I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what neighborhoods people grew up in, so
Speaker 1: I can't speak to that of which they're they're culturally
Speaker 1: inclined to um. But in my culture that I grew
Speaker 1: up in, and I'm not talking about raise some stuff
Speaker 1: on culture, okay, environment and the environment I was in
Speaker 1: right now. You talk smack and like I tell my daughter,
Speaker 1: I told her in the middle of the game another day,
Speaker 1: they were losing one zero and I saw nor your
Speaker 1: hands started to go down and the rest of her team.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, hey, I called her out in the the
Speaker 1: middle of the game. She turned looked at me, I said,
Speaker 1: do you like the results? She was like, nah, Sai
Speaker 1: didn't change it. Change it. If you don't like the results,
Speaker 1: change it. If you don't want somebody talking smack, change
Speaker 1: the results. So they can't talk smack because guess what,
Speaker 1: people don't talk smack when they're losing. Yep, it's not
Speaker 1: not what happens, you're right, right, So like talking smack
Speaker 1: is a it's a pride thing, and yeah, they're sportsmanship
Speaker 1: and all the other jazz. You can talk smack and
Speaker 1: still has shake hands and shake hands afterwards. But as
Speaker 1: long as we're competing between these lines, I ain't your friends.
Speaker 1: It's on, I'm not your friend. And if me talking
Speaker 1: smack gets in your head and brings your game down,
Speaker 1: and guess what, that's strategy, Kyle. That's the exact point
Speaker 1: of talking smack. That's why let's see Michael Jordan talks smack.
Speaker 1: Tyger Woods talks smack. Charles Barkley talked all of the smack,
Speaker 1: all of these great competitors, Tom Brady talks, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and it transcends genres.
Speaker 1: Go to formula one. How much trash talking GEPs? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Nascar. I mean it transcends all sports. Trash
Speaker 1: talking is a rite of passage. I tell my kids.
Speaker 1: I trash talk to my kids when we're when we're
Speaker 1: doing small things, trash talking here here, in here. Who
Speaker 1: makes it to the car first, when we're going to
Speaker 1: the grocery store. You're so slow? Pick it up? Pick
Speaker 1: it up. My thing is make sure you back it up.
Speaker 1: If you can back it up, man talking, And both
Speaker 1: of those ladies could back it up about and even
Speaker 1: more so, be able to and this is the big thing.
Speaker 1: Be able to take what you dish out. That's the
Speaker 1: key thing. So Caitlyn much respect to her, arguably or
Speaker 1: maybe inarguably the best player in the country. Okay, she's
Speaker 1: talking to Smack. She was the one doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you put it out. She was the one doing it.
Speaker 1: Put it out. You got to be able to take it.
Speaker 1: So kudos to her because with all of this, didn't
Speaker 1: say yeah, Caitlyn didn't say a word. You know why
Speaker 1: because she's a competitor and that gets it, and she
Speaker 1: gets it. That's what comes with it. So if the
Speaker 1: competitors get it, what is every what the spectators know,
Speaker 1: we're in concil culture. That's where we're in now, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty three, bottom cancel culture. So play
Speaker 1: a sport and be good at it, and you understand
Speaker 1: why talking a matter of fact, be good at anything,
Speaker 1: and then you can't trash be good at business. Talk
Speaker 1: your trash about being good at be the best. Nervous
Speaker 1: people who talk mess about spreadsheets. I'm telling you my
Speaker 1: spreadsheets better than her trash talk trash. Let's go, oh,
Speaker 1: my sales fun, let's go. This wasn't exactly the road
Speaker 1: I wanted to go down, but I'm glad I was down.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna do my job here,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna translate it back to the Cowboys. You
Speaker 1: said something what you said to your daughter. You said,
Speaker 1: if you don't like the outcome, change it, change it.
Speaker 1: In fact, change it. That's what the Cowboys are trying
Speaker 1: to do. This offsets. They didn't like the outcome. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation did not like the outcome of what happened
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. In the past, there's been a track
Speaker 1: record of not change again, of just floating along. It
Speaker 1: feels like that's different. It feels like that's come to
Speaker 1: a it's come to a head, and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now now it's time to really over this exactly. Sounds
Speaker 1: like they are over it. They were ready to roll,
Speaker 1: which opens the door for the NFL Draft. And part
Speaker 1: of the reason why I mentioned the great sports that
Speaker 1: are happening because there was basketball, there was baseball coming back.
Speaker 1: Opening Day was outstanding. The Rangers were killing it for
Speaker 1: at least against the Phillies. Thank you Rangers. Yeah there
Speaker 1: you go away. Yeah, all for you. They did it
Speaker 1: for you. And then you had like IndyCar, NASCAR trucks, whatever,
Speaker 1: you had, how much sports in Dallas? Stars clinching this
Speaker 1: then Stars playoff, no doubt. But guess what, see, I
Speaker 1: was right behind it. It's draft behind It's draft season.
Speaker 1: Being a first round yeah whatever, I'm not scared of
Speaker 1: the krackings. Okay, we just won the last game we
Speaker 1: played against you guys, That's okay, Okay, yeah whatever, the
Speaker 1: we're not see there's the trash talk. But it's draft season.
Speaker 1: All of this is happening. But it's still NFL Draft
Speaker 1: season all the way across the board, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are welcoming in prospects all this week I mean, we're
Speaker 1: in the middle of thirty thirty business. We have fifteen
Speaker 1: players across the way right now as we're speaking. I
Speaker 1: walked by Will mcclay's office on the way in here.
Speaker 1: He's got a player in there. Dan Quinn's over there,
Speaker 1: whole scouting departments up, they're all running around, they're all
Speaker 1: get walking around. It is an exciting time of years.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, we're gonna talk a lot
Speaker 1: of draft in this episode. We're gonna talk to some
Speaker 1: of the needs where the Cowboys could go, how much
Speaker 1: much of they covered their basis to allow themselves an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go best player available. But we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that later on. First, let's start with some news.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for news and thothers because we've been
Speaker 1: waiting on this news to come from. We have, and
Speaker 1: it's not. The length of news and notes is not
Speaker 1: as robust as it was past couple of weeks. Ursins
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys were knocking it out the park the
Speaker 1: last two or three weeks in the free agency. But
Speaker 1: as things start to dwindle down, they only had a
Speaker 1: couple of loose ends to try to tie up, one
Speaker 1: of which Jonathan Hankins. We talked about last Tuesday that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were actively closing in on getting the deal
Speaker 1: done with Jonathan Hankins, and one day later they did.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins is back with the Dallas Cowboys, resigned on
Speaker 1: a one year deal. So the veteran, big body knows
Speaker 1: tackle that devours two and three guys at one time
Speaker 1: in the middle of that defensive line, he's back, and
Speaker 1: that's fantastic for the Cowboys. Not to be understated, cannot
Speaker 1: be overstated his importance on that line. So the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they were so actively trying to get Carlos Watkins back,
Speaker 1: you can't keep them all. Carlos Watkins did have a
Speaker 1: deal on the table and he opted for a fresh
Speaker 1: start with the Arizona Cardinals on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: So they did lose Carlos Watkins. Stings a bit if
Speaker 1: you understand the impact of Carlos Watkins in that it's
Speaker 1: also bigger than his stat line. But the exclamation point
Speaker 1: for me is Jonathan Hankins coming back on a one
Speaker 1: year deal, which not only provides the massurance at the
Speaker 1: nose tackle, it gives them a starter. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have their starter back. At the nose tackle position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a starter. On defense, you added two starters via
Speaker 1: trade with Cooks and Gilmore. Right now, if you had
Speaker 1: to play a game today, you have every position covered.
Speaker 1: You have every single position along the way. You got
Speaker 1: your wide receiver corps, you got the running back hopefully,
Speaker 1: I mean not today with Tony Pollard and the injury,
Speaker 1: but you at least have Ronald Jones. Who's somebody that
Speaker 1: could happen. That's probably the one area, right we don't
Speaker 1: know about you, but yet we'll find out, and the
Speaker 1: goal is for him to come in and show himself
Speaker 1: at left guard and hopefully be that for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But until we know, we don't know. So as we
Speaker 1: have this conversation, we don't know. So that's still a
Speaker 1: gaping hole. And you've got your linebackers. The depth wise,
Speaker 1: I think behind the moan, Clark, you ken a ton
Speaker 1: of question marks. You got Laateen and you got the Moan,
Speaker 1: and those are your solids behind them. Obviously, Anthony Barr
Speaker 1: remains a free agent. But you talk about Mollie Jefferson,
Speaker 1: you know DeVante bond Harp. I mean, these are practice
Speaker 1: squad guys, your bial Cox needs to step up and
Speaker 1: show his game, and he understands that. Now he will
Speaker 1: have a lot more time removed from that torn acl
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to expect him to be an
Speaker 1: impact player, but again that's still a question mark. The
Speaker 1: only two linebackers that you're confident in right now is
Speaker 1: Lating Vander Esch and the Moan Clark. So at the
Speaker 1: top of your depth chart and linebacker, you're golden. You
Speaker 1: feel fantastic. Once you get to LB. Three and below,
Speaker 1: especially considering you lost Luke Gifford to the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: you're not feeling great. So that is a position as
Speaker 1: well that needs to be addressed. Twenty eleven, thirteen, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: Then you go to twenty twenty two. Every one of
Speaker 1: those years the Cowboys took an offensive lineman in the
Speaker 1: first round. Took an offensive lineman Tyler Smith. Last year
Speaker 1: you would double dip, much like you did in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, you took Travis Frederick and Zach Martin. That
Speaker 1: was a center that was a guard. Worked out pretty
Speaker 1: darn good, didn't it. So are you I'm asking you, guys,
Speaker 1: I know most of Cowboys Nation is okay with it?
Speaker 1: Are you okay with taking a guard at twenty six
Speaker 1: for the second straight year? Yes? Why is that because
Speaker 1: you need it? Well, first of all, the guards you
Speaker 1: took last year, it's technically your left tackle. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be your tackle right, So if you look at it
Speaker 1: from that perspective alone, you're not taking a card technical
Speaker 1: back and back. You took your future left tackle and
Speaker 1: then you hopefully you're getting your future left guard and
Speaker 1: you need it absolutely, and you need it, so I
Speaker 1: know you guys have have kind of started diving in
Speaker 1: and looking at these prospects like tray songs. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: which there's two names there, and we've mentioned this a
Speaker 1: couple of times. There's two names there. Steve A. Villa
Speaker 1: from TCU as one of the names, but probably the
Speaker 1: most likely name is Osirius Torrance out of Florida. Which
Speaker 1: one of those two guys do you like better? One
Speaker 1: of those Villa better? And and you know I'm a
Speaker 1: record as saying that a few weeks ago, while Torrance
Speaker 1: was already getting some interest from the Cowboys at the Combine.
Speaker 1: We confirmed that with him at the combine just and
Speaker 1: we talked about it here recently you could go either way.
Speaker 1: Not be fine with that. Um. I think I'm fifty
Speaker 1: one forty nine toward a Villa though, But I will
Speaker 1: toss a third name in there, maybe not as a
Speaker 1: first round but someone to consider after the first round
Speaker 1: would be Mafi out of UCLA. UM. So that's an
Speaker 1: interior offensive linement that the Cowboys might be interested in,
Speaker 1: probably at this point, if he's not already in the
Speaker 1: building for the official thirty, might be before the draft runs.
Speaker 1: As as far as my knowledge goes, I do not
Speaker 1: think he's ever thirty. Visit Mafia. We'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: But a name to keep an eye on, but not
Speaker 1: for a first rounder. Something that sure after the first round, yea,
Speaker 1: But for first rounders, I'm fifty one forty nine a Villa.
Speaker 1: It's something about that that that kid, that TCU kid.
Speaker 1: I just I love what he does. And this is
Speaker 1: also speaking from you know, a dogs fan of Uga Lum,
Speaker 1: and I know we did what we did to TCU,
Speaker 1: But I was looking at guys like a Villa to
Speaker 1: see how they would performing, to see what their morale
Speaker 1: would be, what their motor would be. Once the score
Speaker 1: began to kind of get out of hand and he
Speaker 1: just kept going, he kept motoring, he kept motorating. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of kid that you know you would want
Speaker 1: on your offensive line. He mass, he gets the job done,
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to get his hands dirty, and he's
Speaker 1: difficult to move. So I'm here for that. That's Antonio
Speaker 1: Mafiata Ucla a little. I like that because if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't go with one of those two guards
Speaker 1: early Torrance or a Villa, you're probably pigeonholing yourself into
Speaker 1: either trying to move a guy from tackle again or
Speaker 1: you're taking a guy later. You're not gonna and the
Speaker 1: guys later are not that great. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: it how it is. The interior offensive linemen in this
Speaker 1: class are not great. Do you have a problem or
Speaker 1: concern with a mister Osiris Torrence's size. I have a
Speaker 1: concern on the way that he played heavy. I don't
Speaker 1: have a concern if he can continue to trim down
Speaker 1: and to lean up, and he has been he played.
Speaker 1: His playing weight at Florida was listed at three forty six.
Speaker 1: Three forty six is a lot for him to carry
Speaker 1: on that frame because he's a big dude. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like not didn't move as well as Nate did. Let's
Speaker 1: say it that way. He's down to three thirty as
Speaker 1: late as the combine. So the last time he was
Speaker 1: measured in officially he was three thirty. So he's already
Speaker 1: dropped sixteen pounds, which is a significant difference. You can
Speaker 1: see it in his frame. If he can continue to
Speaker 1: lean up, I don't have a problem with it. What
Speaker 1: do you want to see him at the guard position? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wise six five, now low three twenties school and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm all in. Give me Osyrus Towns twenty six and
Speaker 1: let's ride this puppy. Because he's a great run blocker.
Speaker 1: It's whenever he gets in the press set pass sets
Speaker 1: that he's kind of he labors. He's got heavy feet.
Speaker 1: You usually want to see quick feet, heavy hands. He's
Speaker 1: got quick hands, heavy feet, So it's backwards. You don't
Speaker 1: want it that way. I want to see him trim
Speaker 1: down a little bit. Maybe that'll help with the feet.
Speaker 1: His power is there, he's got heavy hands, he's got
Speaker 1: that that power. I think there's a way that he
Speaker 1: gets better, and it's shift by leaning up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: from conversations with Nate and other former officive alignment. It's
Speaker 1: easier to teach run blocking, yeah, than it is to
Speaker 1: teach pass blocking. So if you have the ability to
Speaker 1: pass set and have good feet and you're a big boy,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier for your brand new office and
Speaker 1: line coach to teach you how to go ahead and
Speaker 1: be a big, nasty and get down here and move
Speaker 1: some guys out the way when it comes to the
Speaker 1: running game. So, if you had the choice, looking at
Speaker 1: it from that perspective, I much rather have somebody who's
Speaker 1: fully confident in their pass blocking abilities than in their
Speaker 1: in their run blocking having to teach them how to
Speaker 1: protect number four. Yeah, Torrence and Tyler Smith have a
Speaker 1: couple similarities. I mean, Torrence is a bigger human than
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith was, and he doesn't move as well as
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith does, which kind of shows that he's going
Speaker 1: to be a guard in the side. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: play outside. He's not gonna play exactly. Put him in
Speaker 1: a in a phone booth on on him right. But strength,
Speaker 1: they have double plus strength plus plus strength, whereas movement wise,
Speaker 1: that's where there's a bit of a concern. So having
Speaker 1: both of those guys is your future left side of
Speaker 1: your offensive line. Does that concern you at all? Because
Speaker 1: they're very similar in the way that they play. Does
Speaker 1: that mean that you have just a full fledged weakness
Speaker 1: on that side of the offensive line for your future
Speaker 1: moving into the next couple I wouldn't view it like
Speaker 1: this simply because I'm I'm super confident in the athleticism
Speaker 1: of Tyler and I feel like what we saw from
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith in year one, as far as from an
Speaker 1: athletic standpoint, that wasn't it like, there's there's more room
Speaker 1: to grow there and that should terrify right bud. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's more, but that should terrify some opposing edge rushers
Speaker 1: seeing this. You know, this young man going into year
Speaker 1: two already having displayed the athleticism that he displayed in
Speaker 1: year one, being able to flex in from guard to
Speaker 1: left tackle and do whatever they need. And then at
Speaker 1: left tackle, yes, he had some you know, some penalty
Speaker 1: issues with his hands getting a little grabby, but once
Speaker 1: he saw that penalty issue, I'm not worried at all
Speaker 1: about Tyler Smith Smith's athleticism. I think that that would
Speaker 1: help keep Torrance out of trouble. So I think those
Speaker 1: two players would be great together. I'm still fifty one
Speaker 1: forty nine on the Villa because of that particular thank
Speaker 1: you for talking about athleticism. I think the Villa is
Speaker 1: more athletic than Torrance. Yeah, I think he can move
Speaker 1: his mass better, quicker, and he has more control of
Speaker 1: it at the point of a tech than Torrence. Now,
Speaker 1: does that mean that he's light years beyond I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that. I think the fifty one forty nine for
Speaker 1: me goes to the athleticism. But also because as we're
Speaker 1: talking about, Torrance has too much mass right now, so
Speaker 1: you don't want him to get too lean because you
Speaker 1: want him in the phone booth. But at the same
Speaker 1: time you don't want him lumbering either, you know. And
Speaker 1: as I'm looking at these guys, Torrance, when you think
Speaker 1: about it in context, is actually smaller than a vila. Currently,
Speaker 1: he's more stretched out versus a villa fives true store,
Speaker 1: so he's more a compact. He's more of a fire
Speaker 1: hydrant than even Torrance's. No, you're right, and if you
Speaker 1: were to slim down with Torrance, it would even be
Speaker 1: a little bit more so spread out. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: I would agree with it moves better. I would agree
Speaker 1: with you. I have easier to get underneath Torrance based
Speaker 1: off a hype correct just same thing. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about leverage then absolutely, Yeah. Yeah, you're talking about stuff
Speaker 1: in three thirty into a six three frame instead of
Speaker 1: a six five frame. Yeah, it's a major difference. The
Speaker 1: way the scouting report that I have on a villa
Speaker 1: I said, athletic and versatile up front. Plays with a
Speaker 1: strong base and does not get out muscled by anybody,
Speaker 1: moves well for somebody his size, and has good balance
Speaker 1: on the move. Footwork is clean, and he can seal
Speaker 1: a block well whenever he's run blocking. Not polished with
Speaker 1: his hand technique, so I'm not I wasn't impressed with
Speaker 1: his hands whenever I was watching. I watched Georgia. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let you say, go dogs go dogs. There
Speaker 1: you go, Kansas, Michigan, Oklahoma. Yeah, I appreciate it, but yeah, Kansas, Michigan, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: So I watched him against a couple different fronts, and
Speaker 1: the strength is there, but his punch is often off
Speaker 1: balance and inaccurate. Whenever he's having to reset his hands,
Speaker 1: he has trouble. So there was times when he gets
Speaker 1: wiped away and think he has trouble resetting grabbing again.
Speaker 1: Are you more confident in getting out on the itche
Speaker 1: getting out on running wise death? Oh that's tough, because
Speaker 1: I think Torrance is a hell of a run blocker
Speaker 1: and pulling pulling it, it would probably be a Vela.
Speaker 1: There you go. I so I grade on a seven
Speaker 1: point scale. That's what I've done, and it's different for
Speaker 1: each point is what I kind of feel like they
Speaker 1: fit into from a rookie standpoint and then a developmental standpoint.
Speaker 1: I have Torrance as a second round grade, which is
Speaker 1: a five point nine. I have a Vila as a
Speaker 1: second round grade. I haven't as a five point eight.
Speaker 1: So it is right if either one of those guys
Speaker 1: is a first round pick. I'm okay, okay, because especially
Speaker 1: at twenty six we talked about it before, you have
Speaker 1: a second eighty eighty to twenty first round grades on
Speaker 1: your board, and depending on what they think across the way,
Speaker 1: they may think of Vela as the first round they
Speaker 1: may think Torrance is a first round grade. I'm okay
Speaker 1: with both of those guys. Are they my favorite player
Speaker 1: across the board? Probably not. There's probably going to be
Speaker 1: a first round player there. So that's when I think
Speaker 1: the conversation would happen. But we'll continue to have the
Speaker 1: Avila and Warrens battle. Yeah, maybe don't. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about talking about we've hit the first round.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some later round picks. It's some picks
Speaker 1: that might surprise you, some under the radar possibilities for
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team when we come back right after this
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Speaker 1: Before we get into the second segment and we move
Speaker 1: on from the first round possibilities for the Cowboys, I
Speaker 1: want to hit the stat that this is according to
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. I was talking about the past set
Speaker 1: ability of those Sirens Torrents, and I gave it a
Speaker 1: bit of a knock because sometimes he does labor with
Speaker 1: the feat but through three thousand total snaps, he didn't
Speaker 1: allow a single or excuse me, I'm gonna take it back.
Speaker 1: That was through his career. His career was three thousand
Speaker 1: snaps through his fifteen hundred pass blocking snaps. He had
Speaker 1: zero career sacks allout. Now from it's from a guards position,
Speaker 1: so it's different. Remember guard guard sacks and tackle sacks
Speaker 1: are completely different. There's important, but it is important to
Speaker 1: note that when he is in the game. There were
Speaker 1: zero sacks allowed by him in fifteen hundred pass blocking
Speaker 1: sets throughout his Florida career. So that's that's what torrents.
Speaker 1: So even though we're knocking his pass blocking, there's still
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good in the most mentalit guys in
Speaker 1: NFC East and the defensive line come from the interior. Yes,
Speaker 1: they do, at least that's what we've been taught by
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. Thank you very much, Jack Martin. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of these second or third round guys.
Speaker 1: Day two. We're gonna hit day two here. Any position.
Speaker 1: Let's say they do go offensive line in the first
Speaker 1: what is the potential of what you could see in
Speaker 1: the second round? Linebacker? Okay, okay, fair. I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: mad at it. I would be very happy because what
Speaker 1: you know what, the Dallas Cowboys have positioned themselves very
Speaker 1: well for the draft, and you gotta tell me about it.
Speaker 1: In recent years, the Dallas Cowboys have went into the
Speaker 1: draft with gate being holes at multiple positions, Okay, that
Speaker 1: they need to address through the draft, and there are
Speaker 1: a couple of times that they covered their basis, but
Speaker 1: you're right, starter wise, you didn't have them. Now they
Speaker 1: have been able to retain, as we just mentioned at
Speaker 1: the top of the top of the hour, they were
Speaker 1: able to retain majority of their starting roles. So now,
Speaker 1: aside from the one officive line position that you can
Speaker 1: address most likely at twenty six, now you're just playing
Speaker 1: with house money. Okay, you definitely need to address the
Speaker 1: linebacker position because of depth, right, but you guess what,
Speaker 1: you have picks so that you can do that, right,
Speaker 1: and you're not worried about it. You're not worried about
Speaker 1: getting your guy or a quality player with your second
Speaker 1: round picks. You have options. Okay, they're not stealing linebackers
Speaker 1: like that in this draft. Okay, So you address your
Speaker 1: office a line and now guess what. Now, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and grab ourselves a linebacker and then we could
Speaker 1: just just see wherever else we want the next best player.
Speaker 1: Hunting trade, you're just hunting at that point, right, I'm
Speaker 1: just shooting whatever flies across my table. Okay, that looks good,
Speaker 1: but you don't have a need beyond that point. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have likes, you have once needs, some totally different
Speaker 1: teams that need have needs going into draft. Multiple needs.
Speaker 1: Are in a bad position when it comes to the draft,
Speaker 1: I believe, because now they're just watching your guys get
Speaker 1: picked off, and then you get desperated, you get desperate.
Speaker 1: I feel like you could get and you're not wrong.
Speaker 1: And that preface this by saying, I would be completely
Speaker 1: fine if it was linebacker in the second round. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't bat an eye. I'd applaud because we just talked
Speaker 1: about the depth issue behind behind him on Clark and
Speaker 1: late Vanderium. But I would also be pleased if it
Speaker 1: were a tight end being selected in the second round.
Speaker 1: And here's why. And for those that are saying what's
Speaker 1: weird to me is um, you know in Twitter, in
Speaker 1: the Twitter's verse, they're saying, well, we don't have a
Speaker 1: need at tight end, Well, yeah you do, Yes you do.
Speaker 1: And they're saying, well, even without don't shows we don't
Speaker 1: have any Well yeah you do. Because not entirely dissimilar
Speaker 1: from the linebacker situation, you got two guys that you're
Speaker 1: all in on. You're all in on, Jake Ferguson, you're
Speaker 1: all in on pay hinder shot. What you got behind that?
Speaker 1: And when in front of it or in front of it?
Speaker 1: And when I posed that question, it's crickets and tumbleweed, right,
Speaker 1: So therein lies your issue. So for me, I look
Speaker 1: at a guy and you could call it bias whatever
Speaker 1: it gets. Maybe if Darnielle Washington is still there in
Speaker 1: the second round, which is possible because I don't think
Speaker 1: that there's going to be this mad run on tight
Speaker 1: ends in the first round, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: capable tight ends. This'll probably be three or four tight ends, right.
Speaker 1: This tight end depth looks really good. It looks pretty
Speaker 1: good at the top of that prospect pool. So it's
Speaker 1: possible that when you're going to clock in the second
Speaker 1: round that a guy like Darniel Washington will still be there.
Speaker 1: And if he is, I love his fit. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that from the aspect of a Georgia fan
Speaker 1: outside of knowing what his film looks like, because I
Speaker 1: watched him play every single snap in Athens. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that from a pure fit standpoint. Jake Ferguson is your
Speaker 1: due at all guy. Okay. He's the guy that's going
Speaker 1: to come in and hopefully be equal or better than
Speaker 1: Dalton shows painting, paying hinder shots shot, Payton hinder shot.
Speaker 1: He's your playmaker, he's your blake jar when he's your
Speaker 1: you know, stretched the defense down the field, he's your
Speaker 1: yat guy. Okay. But do you have a Maller as
Speaker 1: a blocker? No, you do not. Neither one of those
Speaker 1: two players I've mentioned strike fear in anyone's heart when
Speaker 1: it comes to lining up in the run game and
Speaker 1: bursting through the chess plate of an opposing guy. That's
Speaker 1: a Darnielle Washington who is huge. He's a specimen, but
Speaker 1: also he's a specimen who's a Maller as a blocker.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys, we all know the Cowboys. They want
Speaker 1: to run this football, okay, But he can also occasionally
Speaker 1: make the big play down the field if he improves
Speaker 1: upon that ability and adds that to what he already
Speaker 1: has as a run block of what he already has
Speaker 1: as a physical specimen, my goodness, if you combine him
Speaker 1: with Ferguson and Henry I, I'm with you. I will
Speaker 1: retract my previous statement, Oh, if Darnielle Washington is available,
Speaker 1: there's no way Double Jay passes out there. You go,
Speaker 1: he seems like a Jerry guy, Jerry guy, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not passing on a physical specimen. You know, Jerry's
Speaker 1: got dot Hey, Will'll make the call. I tell you,
Speaker 1: will make the call. Look look at that dude, right
Speaker 1: he's six seven, two hundred and seventy pounds. Guy, Dog,
Speaker 1: you put him right at the end of that line
Speaker 1: of screamers, right there next to Tyrant Smith. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. He can go out there and grab
Speaker 1: a ball. You're gonna make plays for us. Dog, make
Speaker 1: the call and salt the mcgriddle. He's a weapon in
Speaker 1: the red zone, he's a weapon in the in the
Speaker 1: run game. He's bigger than anybody that's gonna guard him. Now,
Speaker 1: he's six seven, two seven pounds. Anybody is gonna be
Speaker 1: all here the one and you can't. You're not tipping
Speaker 1: your hand when he's in the game. Because if you think,
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive quoted, if you think, oh, will
Speaker 1: Darnel's in the game, this is going to be a
Speaker 1: run play, Okay, Well, then it becomes a release and
Speaker 1: he's up the field and now it's him versus a
Speaker 1: safety or dB not even fair high point that ball
Speaker 1: in this a reception one. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: think and then I think he does fit here because,
Speaker 1: like you said, Hendershot, your receiver, Jake Ferguson's you're all
Speaker 1: around guy. Darnel Washington's gonna be your maller, He's gonna
Speaker 1: be your bulldozer because Jake Ferguson's your best blocker on
Speaker 1: the roster right now. Don't even give me Sean McKowen.
Speaker 1: That's not a Sean mckewin is not a good blocker.
Speaker 1: If Peyton Hendershot can possibly get it done when need be.
Speaker 1: And Darnel Washington, even though he's better as a blocker
Speaker 1: than he is as a receiver, he can be a
Speaker 1: receiver and he can be that change up. The one
Speaker 1: thing I had against Darnell Washington with him at Georgia
Speaker 1: was a lot of the times with Georgia they were
Speaker 1: putting games away early. He was more so a changeup
Speaker 1: than he was a game plan. He wasn't. He wasn't
Speaker 1: the game plan of what the Dogs did. The Dogs
Speaker 1: were so good all the way the game plan was.
Speaker 1: Everybody else the game plan was was Okay, let's get
Speaker 1: it to our playmakers, and then you know what, when
Speaker 1: we need to change things up, here's Darnell Washington, and
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, he was able to play exceptionally whenever
Speaker 1: he got the ball in his hands because he was
Speaker 1: not the game plan. Teams were trying to load out
Speaker 1: to stop other things. I like the way he plays
Speaker 1: the game downhill. I like the way he's he's a
Speaker 1: he moves and shines as a blocker, but he also
Speaker 1: shines as a receiver. The one thing I have is
Speaker 1: that he wasn't a featured piece in this offense. The
Speaker 1: way that Dak Prescott plays the game. He likes to
Speaker 1: feature tight ends. You've seen it with Dalton Schultz. You've
Speaker 1: seen it with Blake jar When. You've seen it with
Speaker 1: Jason Witten at times, even in the early years, they
Speaker 1: like to feature tight ends. Can he be a featured guy?
Speaker 1: That's my one concern. I think he can, but I
Speaker 1: just want to have seen it. I have seen it.
Speaker 1: Like we mentioned earlier, you don't know until you know correct.
Speaker 1: That's fair, and I guess I will counter that with
Speaker 1: and it's not a it's not a full counter as
Speaker 1: much as it is an asterisk on what you're saying,
Speaker 1: because you're not wrong. But you know that Jake Ferguson is,
Speaker 1: as we have this conversation, the feature, So he's one ay.
Speaker 1: Hendershot is one B as the feature. So you'll you'll
Speaker 1: get feature plays from Darnell and it won't be entirely
Speaker 1: dissimilar from when he had to share the spotlight with Brock,
Speaker 1: who is, to me, the best tight end in the country.
Speaker 1: So when you have to share that spotlight and on
Speaker 1: that stage, and now you're coming into another big stage
Speaker 1: having to share the spotlight, My point is he's not
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with that scenario and that when he's not often
Speaker 1: going to be game planned four on a weekly basis
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, but he knows to stay ready when
Speaker 1: it's time for his number to be called. As far
Speaker 1: as making the play down the field. He doesn't tune
Speaker 1: out mentally. He doesn't get down on himself mentally that well,
Speaker 1: you know what, well I was I was the man
Speaker 1: at Georgia. You mean I'm gonna have to play second
Speaker 1: or third? No, He's that doesn't worry me at all right,
Speaker 1: he's used to be in complimentary. He's going to mall, mall, mall,
Speaker 1: and then when he gets his number call, he's like
Speaker 1: ready to go, and then mall, mall, mall ready to go.
Speaker 1: So he's he's acclimated to that. So would Ferguson be
Speaker 1: your number one? Darnel Washington's your number two tight end? Would?
Speaker 1: I would argue you? So I would argue you. My
Speaker 1: counterpoint to that is, are you going to spend a
Speaker 1: second round pick on a number two tight end when
Speaker 1: HiT's Darnall Washington? Like, like, that's where I have pops,
Speaker 1: because I want to number one tight end. I want
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna be better than Jake Ferguson. And I'm
Speaker 1: not knocking Jake Ferguson. He was a fourth round pick
Speaker 1: last year for a reason. They had three other names
Speaker 1: in the fourth round that they liked better than Jake
Speaker 1: Ferguson last year. And I know that for a fact.
Speaker 1: The thing, the fact of the matter is Ferguson had
Speaker 1: a great rookie season. But is he ready to take
Speaker 1: over right now? Is tight end number one one? We
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. I think he could, But there's
Speaker 1: guys that are out here right now, in this class,
Speaker 1: that are better. Here's what I would say, what if
Speaker 1: it's a situation where, because again we can only talk
Speaker 1: about what we know at the moment as we have
Speaker 1: this conversation, even if Darnelle Washington is the pick in
Speaker 1: the second round, you're not going to say immediately that
Speaker 1: he's going to beat out Jake Ferguson because you saw
Speaker 1: what Jake Ferguson was able to do less season, right,
Speaker 1: He's a key reason Dolton Shows is not here anymore. Okay,
Speaker 1: So both of those guys Ferguson and so at the moment,
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson has the throne. I think we could agree
Speaker 1: that Darniell could challenge for the throne. He could as
Speaker 1: early as this training camp. But here's where it would
Speaker 1: either go in Darnielle's favor as TE one or Jake's
Speaker 1: favor as TE one. Who's the better pass catcher And
Speaker 1: at the moment, the better and more refined pass catcher
Speaker 1: is Jake Ferguson. So but I say that to say,
Speaker 1: who knows if that remains the case over the course
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three or in year two in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Maybe Darnell takes those strips which were expected,
Speaker 1: especially under the tutelage of a guy like Lunda Welles,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, You're gonna take trust trust him and
Speaker 1: I trust that Stade. What if I told you that
Speaker 1: you could spend a second round pick on Donille Washington,
Speaker 1: get that physical freak of a man who's a mawler
Speaker 1: in the run game, who can get you the downfield
Speaker 1: plays when called upon, will never mentally check out. He
Speaker 1: might be t E two in twenty twenty three, but
Speaker 1: the potential of being tied in one or at least
Speaker 1: constantly battling with Jake for that for the next three years.
Speaker 1: I sign up for that. Yeah, that sounds I'd sign
Speaker 1: up for that. So what do you think you threw
Speaker 1: the alley to me? Because you know my guy, Linda Wales,
Speaker 1: he's he's my dude. Yeah, and he is probably the
Speaker 1: most undervalued coach on this roster, outwardly saying I guess
Speaker 1: in the general public, I think he's starting to finally
Speaker 1: get the credibility and he very well should. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: every tidy and you throw in that room and gets developed.
Speaker 1: He's been They've been great yeh, drafted or undrafted, they
Speaker 1: get developed, didn't they play? Okay? So yeah, so they
Speaker 1: need to go ahead and put some put some respect
Speaker 1: on his name. Continue to do so. If you were
Speaker 1: to do ahead and take mister Washington, I know we're
Speaker 1: talking about you know, t E one. This is if
Speaker 1: he's available at fifty, I don't see put enough prospect.
Speaker 1: I don't seeing I put that on the table. I
Speaker 1: don't see him being available at whops. Okay, but I
Speaker 1: don't see a physical specimen. You're not wrong, but it's
Speaker 1: the draft. Um. One thing about sports. You can't teach speed,
Speaker 1: but you can teach technique. Okay, you can't teach a maller,
Speaker 1: but you could teach somebody how to catch. So if
Speaker 1: we're looking at options, I can't teach six six seven,
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy two hundred and sixty five pounds.
Speaker 1: I can't teach that. No, you're either that or you're not.
Speaker 1: I can't teach that size coupled with a dog mentality
Speaker 1: to block. Can't teach that, and the athletics I can't
Speaker 1: give you want to right, So you got the physicality,
Speaker 1: the other physical size, you got the stature, and you
Speaker 1: got the mentality. Can't teach that. You know what I
Speaker 1: can't teach. I could take your butt out here on
Speaker 1: these drugs all day long, ye and show you got
Speaker 1: to catch off those hands, soften them hands to do
Speaker 1: for a long time. Every every time he was here,
Speaker 1: in the early parts of his career and even later
Speaker 1: we saw it out there, even the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: He was the last one on the jugs absolutely every day.
Speaker 1: So when you was the last one out, So when
Speaker 1: you're looking at the type of guys that you're going
Speaker 1: to be asking them to block, I would much rather
Speaker 1: have a man of that stature and that mentality to
Speaker 1: be able to handle that in the running game and
Speaker 1: then be able to call whatever past game I want
Speaker 1: to off of it. Yeah. Look look at the NFC's
Speaker 1: defensive lines. In defensive that's what I'm talking about. Oh yeah, absolutely, Man,
Speaker 1: if Darnell is there, you get Darnell and you send
Speaker 1: him out to George Kittle University to get those hands
Speaker 1: softened up a little bit, and he can be a problem.
Speaker 1: I just I get excited thinking about the probability or
Speaker 1: the possibility of teaming him with a playmaker like Hinder
Speaker 1: Shot with an all around guy who can do it
Speaker 1: like Jake Ferguson and throwing those three that they're making
Speaker 1: a three headed hydra, throwing them all on the field
Speaker 1: and training camp over the next two to three years
Speaker 1: and saying who wants it more, get after it. Because
Speaker 1: if you know anything and what we've learned about both
Speaker 1: Jake and pay and those are those are hyper competitive guys.
Speaker 1: They're best sees and everything, but they're they're doing it
Speaker 1: the right way, but they're hyper competitive against each other.
Speaker 1: And Darnell is as well. So when you throw that in,
Speaker 1: the question is, well, will Darnell be your te one?
Speaker 1: But he can be, but so can Jake, but in
Speaker 1: a couple of years maybe so competent. And they're just
Speaker 1: throw them out there and let him fight for it.
Speaker 1: And while they're fighting for it, guess what you're getting
Speaker 1: from as Dak Prescott three security blankets, you're also getting
Speaker 1: a fantastic run blocker in Darnell Washington. And if you're
Speaker 1: the opposing defensive coordinator, if any two or three of
Speaker 1: those players are on the field, who's the ball going to.
Speaker 1: And we're not even talking about just yet, the Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks and the Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup possibly having
Speaker 1: a resurgent year, and then Tony Pollit back healthy and
Speaker 1: everything just from a tight end standpoint two tight end set.
Speaker 1: Are you sure that just because Darnell's on the field
Speaker 1: that it's a run play? No, you're not. Nope. I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, No, it provides the ultimate change up
Speaker 1: if he ends up there at fifty eight. Do you
Speaker 1: think that he's there? No? Do you think he's there,
Speaker 1: think he's the top four? No? I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's there. But again, stranger things have happened. He's
Speaker 1: a great player, and teams might be scared of this.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to play Devil's advocate here here, because teams
Speaker 1: might be scared of every team can use a tight end.
Speaker 1: They may also be infatuated with him and they may
Speaker 1: just snatch everything. But I would also say, as much
Speaker 1: as we are praising Darnielle Washington and rightfully so, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of us has him ranked as the
Speaker 1: number one guy in the type. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of other options, right, So we're sitting him, We're saying this,
Speaker 1: and we know that other teams understand Darnell's Washington value
Speaker 1: and potential in ceiling as well. But those other teams
Speaker 1: also know that Darnielle Washington is not the best best
Speaker 1: in the class, which means first those bests have to
Speaker 1: come off the board, and I think that's when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys might have a shot. Might be a long shot,
Speaker 1: but I don't think as as long as you think.
Speaker 1: He's my tight end number five, and I have four
Speaker 1: guys in front of him, two first round grades in
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaide from Utah, Michael Mayer from Notre Dame, and
Speaker 1: then I have three second round grades Luke Musgrave right
Speaker 1: at the top of the second round from Oregon State,
Speaker 1: and then one player in between who I'll tell you
Speaker 1: in a second, and then Darnell Washington, one player in between.
Speaker 1: It's possible, It is possible. Actually I have right now,
Speaker 1: and this is going to change between now and draft weekend.
Speaker 1: I have him as fifty five on my board total,
Speaker 1: so he's a top fifty five player, and we pick
Speaker 1: at fifty eight, it's possible move up and get him.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna move up, period. I think if he's there,
Speaker 1: If he's there at fifty, if you can get on
Speaker 1: the phone, get on the phone if he's there fifty.
Speaker 1: The guy that's in between and is another guy that's
Speaker 1: a maller. And I think because of the traits of
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, he actually has a better chance at falling
Speaker 1: to you. Sam Laporta from Iowa. I like Sam Laporta.
Speaker 1: He's a downhill bulldozer too. Probably not. He's not the
Speaker 1: physical specimen. Nobody is but Darnell Washington exactly. But he's
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Yeah, they turn them out. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: the nostalgic like. I have them all stacked up on
Speaker 1: my desk. All you will be the smartest one at
Speaker 1: the draft party, no doubt, no doubt. This is my
Speaker 1: fourth year contributing to the Draft magazine, third year doing
Speaker 1: all of the bios. I'm pretty proud of what's in here.
Speaker 1: This is really good. Should be pro dude. This magnificent
Speaker 1: good stuff, all right. And for those that are behind
Speaker 1: the scenes and who have who has seen Kyle putting
Speaker 1: this work in then you know exactly what it took
Speaker 1: for him to be able to get you guys this product.
Speaker 1: So get it. You'd learn and like as I say,
Speaker 1: it'd be the smartest person to room when the draft
Speaker 1: rolls and we put some we put some secrets in
Speaker 1: here too, just so you know. You got to figure
Speaker 1: out what those secrets are. But they're in hearing a
Speaker 1: little hunt a little bit, all right. Let's say the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have offensive line, tight end and linebacker out of
Speaker 1: the way in the first three rounds. They hit their
Speaker 1: needs hard, bam boom, out of the way. Man, where
Speaker 1: you're going next in the day three? Real quick before
Speaker 1: we wrap things up, Okay, D line into D line,
Speaker 1: interior D line. Okay, put somebody back behind baby Hankins. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you want to nose tack. I want to nose tack.
Speaker 1: You don't want a three technique? Now I want one.
Speaker 1: I want to one, A zero. I wanna true now
Speaker 1: I want to, I want to. I want to Gilbert Brown,
Speaker 1: want to? I want to Gilbert Brown, big Sam Adams
Speaker 1: very nice because when Hankins goes out, I don't want
Speaker 1: teams to feel like they have an advantage. I'm with that.
Speaker 1: Keep them fresh too, and and keeping my ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: When we talk about day two, day three, they're more
Speaker 1: than one. It's more than one. Pick one day three.
Speaker 1: So if you get that idea, that's great. But if
Speaker 1: we're talking about somebody that I really want, or a
Speaker 1: position I really want, where's my developmental quarterback? Right? Let
Speaker 1: me get my developmental quarterback. And I'm looking at someone
Speaker 1: like a Clayton Tune in the sixth something like that. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna last to the second.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, but if he's available, and you know,
Speaker 1: as a flyer, I take him as early. What did happen? Yes? Uh,
Speaker 1: I have Oh man, I love talking to him. I'm
Speaker 1: a lot higher on tune than most people. I like
Speaker 1: tune a lot as a developmental guy. I have him
Speaker 1: as a top one fifty player. I have him as
Speaker 1: a fourth round high. I'm I have him early fourth Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah, I'm strong going to him. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: already that high to him, though I'd be willing to
Speaker 1: go as early as a fifth on him, but I'm
Speaker 1: circling sixth as far as he would So there's preferably
Speaker 1: there's there's like three tiers of quarterbacks, for quarterback and fourth.
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking, No, don't you do it, now,
Speaker 1: don't you do it. There's three tiers of quarterbacks. There's
Speaker 1: the first round guys that are C. J. Stroud, Rice Young,
Speaker 1: Will Levis, Anthony Richardson. Then I've got a second tier
Speaker 1: of guys that's Hendon Hooker. Uh. Actually, it's just Hendon
Speaker 1: Hooker in the second tier. And then the third tier
Speaker 1: of guys is a jumbled mess of Jake Hayner from
Speaker 1: Fresno State, Clayton Tune from Houston, Tanner McKee from Stanford.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams are really high on Tanner McKee.
Speaker 1: Some people even had him mocked in the first round.
Speaker 1: A lot of people like him. I had him, I
Speaker 1: had him pretty high, but not that high. And then
Speaker 1: Max Duggan from TCU is in that third tier as well,
Speaker 1: So lots to look forward to with with some developmental quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I think there are some good ones in there there,
Speaker 1: most certainly, so yeah, give me my developmental quarterback. You
Speaker 1: got Cooper Rush back, and you know, kudos to that
Speaker 1: because it also helps avoid a glaring need, right and
Speaker 1: then you got Will Grill, who a battle with Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush But you know Cooper Rush he's he's not getting
Speaker 1: any younger, and you want to see another step forward
Speaker 1: from Will Grill or you know that developmental quarterback might
Speaker 1: end up taking that spot. So Will Grid's going to
Speaker 1: have to fight for his spot as well, and he
Speaker 1: understands this, So yeah, developmental quarterback. Jerry Jones says he
Speaker 1: wants to do it, so I would not expect that
Speaker 1: Day three would expire without it being done. So I
Speaker 1: hear you talking, mister Jones, show me, show it there
Speaker 1: you go. If you don't like the result, what do
Speaker 1: you say if you don't really like the result, than
Speaker 1: what change change your baby? Time to changeing with the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We'll have more draft talk as we continue
Speaker 1: along and we'll continue to get better at outlining what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys want, will probably know a lot more of
Speaker 1: the names from the thirty visit by the time we
Speaker 1: get around next week as well, so that doesn't for
Speaker 1: us here on Talking Cowboys. Gotta wait another week. Next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: ten am Central Time, we'll get right back at it
Speaker 1: for Chris being Friday stand back for Patrick nose Walker.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long here from the Star
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