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Speaker 1: Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeoman's. It's time for another offseason

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Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company,

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Speaker 1: the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome into the

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Speaker 1: SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco. We're ready here

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Speaker 1: over the next forty five minutes to run down everything

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Speaker 1: you need to know about the Cowboys offseason right here

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Speaker 1: from the world headquarters. Five of them things. Yeah, forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes, we got it all done. Chris being in

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Speaker 1: the back, we got Isaiah stand back, Patrick Nose Walker,

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's. How's everybody doing? Fantastic? Fantastic, old man.

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Speaker 1: It's been a great week of sports, right it has.

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Speaker 1: It's been magnificent, awesome week of smoodness. Because you talk

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Speaker 1: about not only did March Madden has come to a conclusion.

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Speaker 1: We had both final fours, both of which were in Texas,

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Speaker 1: one in Houston for the men the women were here

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Speaker 1: in Dallas and it was awesome, unbelievable, super cool. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you talk about Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese. There's controversy there,

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Speaker 1: but honestly that's competitive. Oh yes, I just love watching

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Speaker 1: them every ounce of that trash both directions. Yes, two

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Speaker 1: of the best players, your trash man since win. Since

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Speaker 1: when is it a sin to talk trash talk your

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Speaker 1: trash man? I don't know. This world is so sensitive now.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you don't ye say the word that

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Speaker 1: you want to say. A WFT solved. It's so I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what neighborhoods people grew up in, so

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Speaker 1: I can't speak to that of which they're they're culturally

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Speaker 1: on culture, okay, environment and the environment I was in

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Speaker 1: right now. You talk smack and like I tell my daughter,

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Speaker 1: I told her in the middle of the game another day,

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Speaker 1: they were losing one zero and I saw nor your

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Speaker 1: hands started to go down and the rest of her team.

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, hey, I called her out in the the

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Speaker 1: middle of the game. She turned looked at me, I said,

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Speaker 1: do you like the results? She was like, nah, Sai

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Speaker 1: didn't change it. Change it. If you don't like the results,

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Speaker 1: change it. If you don't want somebody talking smack, change

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Speaker 1: the results. So they can't talk smack because guess what,

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Speaker 1: people don't talk smack when they're losing. Yep, it's not

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Speaker 1: not what happens, you're right, right, So like talking smack

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Speaker 1: is a it's a pride thing, and yeah, they're sportsmanship

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Speaker 1: and all the other jazz. You can talk smack and

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Speaker 1: still has shake hands and shake hands afterwards. But as

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Speaker 1: long as we're competing between these lines, I ain't your friends.

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Speaker 1: It's on, I'm not your friend. And if me talking

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Speaker 1: smack gets in your head and brings your game down,

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Speaker 1: and guess what, that's strategy, Kyle. That's the exact point

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Speaker 1: of talking smack. That's why let's see Michael Jordan talks smack.

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Speaker 1: Tyger Woods talks smack. Charles Barkley talked all of the smack,

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Speaker 1: all of these great competitors, Tom Brady talks, Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and it transcends genres.

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Speaker 1: Go to formula one. How much trash talking GEPs? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Nascar. I mean it transcends all sports. Trash

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Speaker 1: talking is a rite of passage. I tell my kids.

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Speaker 1: doing small things, trash talking here here, in here. Who

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Speaker 1: makes it to the car first, when we're going to

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Speaker 1: the grocery store. You're so slow? Pick it up? Pick

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Speaker 1: it up. My thing is make sure you back it up.

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Speaker 1: If you can back it up, man talking, And both

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Speaker 1: talking to Smack. She was the one doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why talking a matter of fact, be good at anything,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go down, but I'm glad I was down.

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Speaker 1: In fact, change it. That's what the Cowboys are trying

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Speaker 1: which opens the door for the NFL Draft. And part

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for news and thothers because we've been

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Speaker 1: it's not. The length of news and notes is not

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Speaker 1: a one year deal. So the veteran, big body knows

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Speaker 1: be overstated his importance on that line. So the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: well that needs to be addressed. Twenty eleven, thirteen, twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: first round. Took an offensive lineman Tyler Smith. Last year

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Speaker 1: protect number four. Yeah, Torrence and Tyler Smith have a

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Speaker 1: about Tyler Smith Smith's athleticism. I think that that would

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Speaker 1: he's more stretched out versus a villa fives true store,

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Speaker 1: so he's more a compact. He's more of a fire

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Speaker 1: I have Torrance as a second round grade, which is

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the second segment and we move

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Speaker 1: on from the first round possibilities for the Cowboys, I

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Speaker 1: want to hit the stat that this is according to

435
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. I was talking about the past set

436
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Speaker 1: ability of those Sirens Torrents, and I gave it a

437
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Speaker 1: bit of a knock because sometimes he does labor with

438
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Speaker 1: the feat but through three thousand total snaps, he didn't

439
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Speaker 1: allow a single or excuse me, I'm gonna take it back.

440
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Speaker 1: That was through his career. His career was three thousand

441
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Speaker 1: snaps through his fifteen hundred pass blocking snaps. He had

442
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: zero career sacks allout. Now from it's from a guards position,

443
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Speaker 1: so it's different. Remember guard guard sacks and tackle sacks

444
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Speaker 1: are completely different. There's important, but it is important to

445
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Speaker 1: note that when he is in the game. There were

446
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Speaker 1: zero sacks allowed by him in fifteen hundred pass blocking

447
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Speaker 1: sets throughout his Florida career. So that's that's what torrents.

448
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Speaker 1: So even though we're knocking his pass blocking, there's still

449
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Speaker 1: a pretty darn good in the most mentalit guys in

450
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Speaker 1: NFC East and the defensive line come from the interior. Yes,

451
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Speaker 1: they do, at least that's what we've been taught by

452
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Speaker 1: Zach Martin. Thank you very much, Jack Martin. All right,

453
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Speaker 1: let's talk about some of these second or third round guys.

454
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Speaker 1: Day two. We're gonna hit day two here. Any position.

455
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Speaker 1: Let's say they do go offensive line in the first

456
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Speaker 1: what is the potential of what you could see in

457
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Speaker 1: the second round? Linebacker? Okay, okay, fair. I wouldn't be

458
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: mad at it. I would be very happy because what

459
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: you know what, the Dallas Cowboys have positioned themselves very

460
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: well for the draft, and you gotta tell me about it.

461
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: In recent years, the Dallas Cowboys have went into the

462
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Speaker 1: draft with gate being holes at multiple positions, Okay, that

463
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: they need to address through the draft, and there are

464
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: a couple of times that they covered their basis, but

465
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Speaker 1: you're right, starter wise, you didn't have them. Now they

466
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Speaker 1: have been able to retain, as we just mentioned at

467
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Speaker 1: the top of the top of the hour, they were

468
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Speaker 1: able to retain majority of their starting roles. So now,

469
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Speaker 1: aside from the one officive line position that you can

470
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Speaker 1: address most likely at twenty six, now you're just playing

471
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Speaker 1: with house money. Okay, you definitely need to address the

472
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Speaker 1: linebacker position because of depth, right, but you guess what,

473
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Speaker 1: you have picks so that you can do that, right,

474
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Speaker 1: and you're not worried about it. You're not worried about

475
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Speaker 1: getting your guy or a quality player with your second

476
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Speaker 1: round picks. You have options. Okay, they're not stealing linebackers

477
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Speaker 1: like that in this draft. Okay, So you address your

478
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Speaker 1: office a line and now guess what. Now, let's go

479
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Speaker 1: ahead and grab ourselves a linebacker and then we could

480
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Speaker 1: just just see wherever else we want the next best player.

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Speaker 1: Hunting trade, you're just hunting at that point, right, I'm

482
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Speaker 1: just shooting whatever flies across my table. Okay, that looks good,

483
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: but you don't have a need beyond that point. Okay,

484
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: you have likes, you have once needs, some totally different

485
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: teams that need have needs going into draft. Multiple needs.

486
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Speaker 1: Are in a bad position when it comes to the draft,

487
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Speaker 1: I believe, because now they're just watching your guys get

488
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Speaker 1: picked off, and then you get desperated, you get desperate.

489
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Speaker 1: I feel like you could get and you're not wrong.

490
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Speaker 1: And that preface this by saying, I would be completely

491
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Speaker 1: fine if it was linebacker in the second round. I

492
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Speaker 1: wouldn't bat an eye. I'd applaud because we just talked

493
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Speaker 1: about the depth issue behind behind him on Clark and

494
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Speaker 1: late Vanderium. But I would also be pleased if it

495
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Speaker 1: were a tight end being selected in the second round.

496
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Speaker 1: And here's why. And for those that are saying what's

497
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Speaker 1: weird to me is um, you know in Twitter, in

498
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Speaker 1: the Twitter's verse, they're saying, well, we don't have a

499
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Speaker 1: need at tight end, Well, yeah you do, Yes you do.

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Speaker 1: And they're saying, well, even without don't shows we don't

501
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Speaker 1: have any Well yeah you do. Because not entirely dissimilar

502
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Speaker 1: from the linebacker situation, you got two guys that you're

503
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Speaker 1: all in on. You're all in on, Jake Ferguson, you're

504
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Speaker 1: all in on pay hinder shot. What you got behind that?

505
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Speaker 1: And when in front of it or in front of it?

506
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Speaker 1: And when I posed that question, it's crickets and tumbleweed, right,

507
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Speaker 1: So therein lies your issue. So for me, I look

508
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Speaker 1: at a guy and you could call it bias whatever

509
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Speaker 1: it gets. Maybe if Darnielle Washington is still there in

510
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Speaker 1: the second round, which is possible because I don't think

511
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Speaker 1: that there's going to be this mad run on tight

512
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Speaker 1: ends in the first round, and there's a lot of

513
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: capable tight ends. This'll probably be three or four tight ends, right.

514
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Speaker 1: This tight end depth looks really good. It looks pretty

515
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Speaker 1: good at the top of that prospect pool. So it's

516
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Speaker 1: possible that when you're going to clock in the second

517
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Speaker 1: round that a guy like Darniel Washington will still be there.

518
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Speaker 1: And if he is, I love his fit. And I'm

519
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: not saying that from the aspect of a Georgia fan

520
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: outside of knowing what his film looks like, because I

521
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: watched him play every single snap in Athens. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that from a pure fit standpoint. Jake Ferguson is your

523
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Speaker 1: due at all guy. Okay. He's the guy that's going

524
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: to come in and hopefully be equal or better than

525
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Dalton shows painting, paying hinder shots shot, Payton hinder shot.

526
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: He's your playmaker, he's your blake jar when he's your

527
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, stretched the defense down the field, he's your

528
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: yat guy. Okay. But do you have a Maller as

529
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: a blocker? No, you do not. Neither one of those

530
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: two players I've mentioned strike fear in anyone's heart when

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Speaker 1: it comes to lining up in the run game and

532
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: bursting through the chess plate of an opposing guy. That's

533
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Speaker 1: a Darnielle Washington who is huge. He's a specimen, but

534
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: also he's a specimen who's a Maller as a blocker.

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Speaker 1: And the Cowboys, we all know the Cowboys. They want

536
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: to run this football, okay, But he can also occasionally

537
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: make the big play down the field if he improves

538
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: upon that ability and adds that to what he already

539
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: has as a run block of what he already has

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Speaker 1: as a physical specimen, my goodness, if you combine him

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Speaker 1: with Ferguson and Henry I, I'm with you. I will

542
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Speaker 1: retract my previous statement, Oh, if Darnielle Washington is available,

543
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: there's no way Double Jay passes out there. You go,

544
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: he seems like a Jerry guy, Jerry guy, he's not.

545
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: He's not passing on a physical specimen. You know, Jerry's

546
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: got dot Hey, Will'll make the call. I tell you,

547
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: will make the call. Look look at that dude, right

548
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: he's six seven, two hundred and seventy pounds. Guy, Dog,

549
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: you put him right at the end of that line

550
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: of screamers, right there next to Tyrant Smith. And I'll

551
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: tell you what. He can go out there and grab

552
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: a ball. You're gonna make plays for us. Dog, make

553
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: the call and salt the mcgriddle. He's a weapon in

554
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: the red zone, he's a weapon in the in the

555
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: run game. He's bigger than anybody that's gonna guard him. Now,

556
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: he's six seven, two seven pounds. Anybody is gonna be

557
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: all here the one and you can't. You're not tipping

558
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: your hand when he's in the game. Because if you think,

559
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive quoted, if you think, oh, will

560
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Darnel's in the game, this is going to be a

561
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: run play, Okay, Well, then it becomes a release and

562
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: he's up the field and now it's him versus a

563
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: safety or dB not even fair high point that ball

564
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Speaker 1: in this a reception one. The one thing that I

565
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: think and then I think he does fit here because,

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Speaker 1: like you said, Hendershot, your receiver, Jake Ferguson's you're all

567
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: around guy. Darnel Washington's gonna be your maller, He's gonna

568
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: be your bulldozer because Jake Ferguson's your best blocker on

569
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: the roster right now. Don't even give me Sean McKowen.

570
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: That's not a Sean mckewin is not a good blocker.

571
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: If Peyton Hendershot can possibly get it done when need be.

572
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: And Darnel Washington, even though he's better as a blocker

573
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: than he is as a receiver, he can be a

574
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: receiver and he can be that change up. The one

575
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: thing I had against Darnell Washington with him at Georgia

576
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 1: was a lot of the times with Georgia they were

577
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: putting games away early. He was more so a changeup

578
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: than he was a game plan. He wasn't. He wasn't

579
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: the game plan of what the Dogs did. The Dogs

580
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: were so good all the way the game plan was.

581
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: Everybody else the game plan was was Okay, let's get

582
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: it to our playmakers, and then you know what, when

583
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: we need to change things up, here's Darnell Washington, and

584
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, he was able to play exceptionally whenever

585
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: he got the ball in his hands because he was

586
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: not the game plan. Teams were trying to load out

587
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: to stop other things. I like the way he plays

588
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: the game downhill. I like the way he's he's a

589
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: he moves and shines as a blocker, but he also

590
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: shines as a receiver. The one thing I have is

591
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: that he wasn't a featured piece in this offense. The

592
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: way that Dak Prescott plays the game. He likes to

593
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: feature tight ends. You've seen it with Dalton Schultz. You've

594
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: seen it with Blake jar When. You've seen it with

595
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Speaker 1: Jason Witten at times, even in the early years, they

596
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: like to feature tight ends. Can he be a featured guy?

597
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: That's my one concern. I think he can, but I

598
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: just want to have seen it. I have seen it.

599
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Like we mentioned earlier, you don't know until you know correct.

600
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: That's fair, and I guess I will counter that with

601
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: and it's not a it's not a full counter as

602
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: much as it is an asterisk on what you're saying,

603
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: because you're not wrong. But you know that Jake Ferguson is,

604
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: as we have this conversation, the feature, So he's one ay.

605
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: Hendershot is one B as the feature. So you'll you'll

606
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: get feature plays from Darnell and it won't be entirely

607
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: dissimilar from when he had to share the spotlight with Brock,

608
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: who is, to me, the best tight end in the country.

609
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: So when you have to share that spotlight and on

610
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: that stage, and now you're coming into another big stage

611
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: having to share the spotlight, My point is he's not

612
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with that scenario and that when he's not often

613
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: going to be game planned four on a weekly basis

614
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, but he knows to stay ready when

615
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: it's time for his number to be called. As far

616
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: as making the play down the field. He doesn't tune

617
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: out mentally. He doesn't get down on himself mentally that well,

618
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Speaker 1: you know what, well I was I was the man

619
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Speaker 1: at Georgia. You mean I'm gonna have to play second

620
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: or third? No, He's that doesn't worry me at all right,

621
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Speaker 1: he's used to be in complimentary. He's going to mall, mall, mall,

622
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: and then when he gets his number call, he's like

623
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: ready to go, and then mall, mall, mall ready to go.

624
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: So he's he's acclimated to that. So would Ferguson be

625
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: your number one? Darnel Washington's your number two tight end? Would?

626
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: I would argue you? So I would argue you. My

627
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: counterpoint to that is, are you going to spend a

628
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: second round pick on a number two tight end when

629
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: HiT's Darnall Washington? Like, like, that's where I have pops,

630
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: because I want to number one tight end. I want

631
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Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna be better than Jake Ferguson. And I'm

632
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: not knocking Jake Ferguson. He was a fourth round pick

633
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: last year for a reason. They had three other names

634
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: in the fourth round that they liked better than Jake

635
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Ferguson last year. And I know that for a fact.

636
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: The thing, the fact of the matter is Ferguson had

637
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: a great rookie season. But is he ready to take

638
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: over right now? Is tight end number one one? We

639
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. I think he could, But there's

640
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: guys that are out here right now, in this class,

641
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: that are better. Here's what I would say, what if

642
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: it's a situation where, because again we can only talk

643
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: about what we know at the moment as we have

644
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: this conversation, even if Darnelle Washington is the pick in

645
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: the second round, you're not going to say immediately that

646
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: he's going to beat out Jake Ferguson because you saw

647
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: what Jake Ferguson was able to do less season, right,

648
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: He's a key reason Dolton Shows is not here anymore. Okay,

649
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: So both of those guys Ferguson and so at the moment,

650
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson has the throne. I think we could agree

651
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: that Darniell could challenge for the throne. He could as

652
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: early as this training camp. But here's where it would

653
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: either go in Darnielle's favor as TE one or Jake's

654
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: favor as TE one. Who's the better pass catcher And

655
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: at the moment, the better and more refined pass catcher

656
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: is Jake Ferguson. So but I say that to say,

657
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: who knows if that remains the case over the course

658
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three or in year two in twenty

659
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: twenty four. Maybe Darnell takes those strips which were expected,

660
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: especially under the tutelage of a guy like Lunda Welles,

661
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, You're gonna take trust trust him and

662
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: I trust that Stade. What if I told you that

663
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: you could spend a second round pick on Donille Washington,

664
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: get that physical freak of a man who's a mawler

665
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: in the run game, who can get you the downfield

666
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: plays when called upon, will never mentally check out. He

667
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: might be t E two in twenty twenty three, but

668
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: the potential of being tied in one or at least

669
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: constantly battling with Jake for that for the next three years.

670
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: I sign up for that. Yeah, that sounds I'd sign

671
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: up for that. So what do you think you threw

672
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: the alley to me? Because you know my guy, Linda Wales,

673
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: he's he's my dude. Yeah, and he is probably the

674
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: most undervalued coach on this roster, outwardly saying I guess

675
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: in the general public, I think he's starting to finally

676
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: get the credibility and he very well should. Yeah, because

677
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: every tidy and you throw in that room and gets developed.

678
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: He's been They've been great yeh, drafted or undrafted, they

679
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: get developed, didn't they play? Okay? So yeah, so they

680
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: need to go ahead and put some put some respect

681
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: on his name. Continue to do so. If you were

682
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: to do ahead and take mister Washington, I know we're

683
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: talking about you know, t E one. This is if

684
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: he's available at fifty, I don't see put enough prospect.

685
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't seeing I put that on the table. I

686
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: don't see him being available at whops. Okay, but I

687
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: don't see a physical specimen. You're not wrong, but it's

688
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Um. One thing about sports. You can't teach speed,

689
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: but you can teach technique. Okay, you can't teach a maller,

690
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: but you could teach somebody how to catch. So if

691
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: we're looking at options, I can't teach six six seven,

692
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy two hundred and sixty five pounds.

693
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: I can't teach that. No, you're either that or you're not.

694
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: I can't teach that size coupled with a dog mentality

695
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: to block. Can't teach that, and the athletics I can't

696
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: give you want to right, So you got the physicality,

697
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: the other physical size, you got the stature, and you

698
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: got the mentality. Can't teach that. You know what I

699
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: can't teach. I could take your butt out here on

700
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: these drugs all day long, ye and show you got

701
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: to catch off those hands, soften them hands to do

702
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: for a long time. Every every time he was here,

703
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: in the early parts of his career and even later

704
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: we saw it out there, even the last couple of years.

705
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: He was the last one on the jugs absolutely every day.

706
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: So when you was the last one out, So when

707
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: you're looking at the type of guys that you're going

708
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: to be asking them to block, I would much rather

709
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: have a man of that stature and that mentality to

710
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: be able to handle that in the running game and

711
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: then be able to call whatever past game I want

712
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: to off of it. Yeah. Look look at the NFC's

713
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: defensive lines. In defensive that's what I'm talking about. Oh yeah, absolutely, Man,

714
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: if Darnell is there, you get Darnell and you send

715
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: him out to George Kittle University to get those hands

716
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: softened up a little bit, and he can be a problem.

717
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: I just I get excited thinking about the probability or

718
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: the possibility of teaming him with a playmaker like Hinder

719
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Shot with an all around guy who can do it

720
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: like Jake Ferguson and throwing those three that they're making

721
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: a three headed hydra, throwing them all on the field

722
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: and training camp over the next two to three years

723
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: and saying who wants it more, get after it. Because

724
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: if you know anything and what we've learned about both

725
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: Jake and pay and those are those are hyper competitive guys.

726
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: They're best sees and everything, but they're they're doing it

727
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: the right way, but they're hyper competitive against each other.

728
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: And Darnell is as well. So when you throw that in,

729
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: the question is, well, will Darnell be your te one?

730
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: But he can be, but so can Jake, but in

731
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: a couple of years maybe so competent. And they're just

732
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: throw them out there and let him fight for it.

733
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: And while they're fighting for it, guess what you're getting

734
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: from as Dak Prescott three security blankets, you're also getting

735
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: a fantastic run blocker in Darnell Washington. And if you're

736
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: the opposing defensive coordinator, if any two or three of

737
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: those players are on the field, who's the ball going to.

738
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: And we're not even talking about just yet, the Brandon

739
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Cooks and the Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup possibly having

740
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: a resurgent year, and then Tony Pollit back healthy and

741
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: everything just from a tight end standpoint two tight end set.

742
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: Are you sure that just because Darnell's on the field

743
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: that it's a run play? No, you're not. Nope. I

744
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, No, it provides the ultimate change up

745
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: if he ends up there at fifty eight. Do you

746
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: think that he's there? No? Do you think he's there,

747
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: think he's the top four? No? I don't. I don't

748
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: think he's there. But again, stranger things have happened. He's

749
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: a great player, and teams might be scared of this.

750
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to play Devil's advocate here here, because teams

751
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: might be scared of every team can use a tight end.

752
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: They may also be infatuated with him and they may

753
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: just snatch everything. But I would also say, as much

754
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: as we are praising Darnielle Washington and rightfully so, I

755
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: don't think any of us has him ranked as the

756
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: number one guy in the type. So there's a lot

757
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: of other options, right, So we're sitting him, We're saying this,

758
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: and we know that other teams understand Darnell's Washington value

759
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: and potential in ceiling as well. But those other teams

760
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: also know that Darnielle Washington is not the best best

761
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: in the class, which means first those bests have to

762
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: come off the board, and I think that's when the

763
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys might have a shot. Might be a long shot,

764
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: but I don't think as as long as you think.

765
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: He's my tight end number five, and I have four

766
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: guys in front of him, two first round grades in

767
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaide from Utah, Michael Mayer from Notre Dame, and

768
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: then I have three second round grades Luke Musgrave right

769
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: at the top of the second round from Oregon State,

770
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: and then one player in between who I'll tell you

771
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: in a second, and then Darnell Washington, one player in between.

772
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: It's possible, It is possible. Actually I have right now,

773
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: and this is going to change between now and draft weekend.

774
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: I have him as fifty five on my board total,

775
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: so he's a top fifty five player, and we pick

776
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: at fifty eight, it's possible move up and get him.

777
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna move up, period. I think if he's there,

778
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: If he's there at fifty, if you can get on

779
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: the phone, get on the phone if he's there fifty.

780
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: The guy that's in between and is another guy that's

781
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: a maller. And I think because of the traits of

782
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, he actually has a better chance at falling

783
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: to you. Sam Laporta from Iowa. I like Sam Laporta.

784
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: He's a downhill bulldozer too. Probably not. He's not the

785
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: physical specimen. Nobody is but Darnell Washington exactly. But he's

786
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Yeah, they turn them out. All right, let's

787
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Speaker 1: from where we are right now here at the Star,

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Speaker 1: so right down the street. Probably not going to be

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Speaker 1: there for the Cowboys the twenties six, but we like

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Speaker 1: many lay. Yeah, he's probably gone way way way before that.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's kind of the reason why all these guys

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Speaker 1: are on the front. They have Texas connections. So we

849
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Speaker 1: have this Texas connection article, really nicely done by Jeff Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: Then things get real special. How about no guarantee? This

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Speaker 1: is by Patrick Walker, special edition of the Science Lab.

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Speaker 1: Get it what science Baby rules. We have a we

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Speaker 1: have a first round draft, mock draft, and then we

854
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Speaker 1: have scouting reports for every position. How about that? And

855
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: I put together these rankings and these scout reports. Some

856
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Speaker 1: might I put a cougar in that book. Uh yeah,

857
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a coolger in that car. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of them throughout. So yes, science. Uh yeah,

859
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Speaker 1: so we've got a bunch of cool stuff. You can

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Speaker 1: get this online. There is a digital copy available as

861
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Speaker 1: well for those of you who don't want the clasical magazine.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. Right, you got to say it

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Speaker 1: in the honorable boys, do it now now. I have

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Speaker 1: tweeted out a couple of links too, So if you

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Speaker 1: want to go on my Twitter, it's there for Cowboys.

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00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: Twitter has posted item really really cool magazine. Are you

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Speaker 1: paying for your check? Mark? Uh? No, no, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. No, I'm not paying for it. If that

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Speaker 1: gives you an idea, take it and get it over with, yep, nope,

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Speaker 1: I've but uh yeah, so there you go. So that's

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Speaker 1: your draft magazine that you have to go and enjoy,

872
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Speaker 1: have some fun. Are you paying for your check? Pay

873
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Speaker 1: for my chickbark? I will draw a chickbark gut here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, go get you a copy. It's

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00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: really cool. I recommend having the physical copy outside of

876
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: the nostalgic like. I have them all stacked up on

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Speaker 1: my desk. All you will be the smartest one at

878
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: the draft party, no doubt, no doubt. This is my

879
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: fourth year contributing to the Draft magazine, third year doing

880
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: all of the bios. I'm pretty proud of what's in here.

881
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: This is really good. Should be pro dude. This magnificent

882
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: good stuff, all right. And for those that are behind

883
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: the scenes and who have who has seen Kyle putting

884
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: this work in then you know exactly what it took

885
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: for him to be able to get you guys this product.

886
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: So get it. You'd learn and like as I say,

887
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: it'd be the smartest person to room when the draft

888
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: rolls and we put some we put some secrets in

889
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: here too, just so you know. You got to figure

890
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: out what those secrets are. But they're in hearing a

891
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: little hunt a little bit, all right. Let's say the

892
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys have offensive line, tight end and linebacker out of

893
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: the way in the first three rounds. They hit their

894
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: needs hard, bam boom, out of the way. Man, where

895
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: you're going next in the day three? Real quick before

896
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Speaker 1: we wrap things up, Okay, D line into D line,

897
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: interior D line. Okay, put somebody back behind baby Hankins. Okay,

898
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: So you want to nose tack. I want to nose tack.

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Speaker 1: You don't want a three technique? Now I want one.

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00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I want to one, A zero. I wanna true now

901
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: I want to, I want to. I want to Gilbert Brown,

902
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: want to? I want to Gilbert Brown, big Sam Adams

903
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: very nice because when Hankins goes out, I don't want

904
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: teams to feel like they have an advantage. I'm with that.

905
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: Keep them fresh too, and and keeping my ladies and gentlemen.

906
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: When we talk about day two, day three, they're more

907
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: than one. It's more than one. Pick one day three.

908
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: So if you get that idea, that's great. But if

909
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about somebody that I really want, or a

910
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: position I really want, where's my developmental quarterback? Right? Let

911
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: me get my developmental quarterback. And I'm looking at someone

912
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: like a Clayton Tune in the sixth something like that. Um,

913
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna last to the second.

914
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Speaker 1: I don't know either, but if he's available, and you know,

915
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: as a flyer, I take him as early. What did happen? Yes? Uh,

916
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Speaker 1: I have Oh man, I love talking to him. I'm

917
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: a lot higher on tune than most people. I like

918
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Speaker 1: tune a lot as a developmental guy. I have him

919
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: as a top one fifty player. I have him as

920
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Speaker 1: a fourth round high. I'm I have him early fourth Okay,

921
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah, I'm strong going to him. Yeah, I'm

922
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Speaker 1: already that high to him, though I'd be willing to

923
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Speaker 1: go as early as a fifth on him, but I'm

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Speaker 1: circling sixth as far as he would So there's preferably

925
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: there's there's like three tiers of quarterbacks, for quarterback and fourth.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking, No, don't you do it, now,

927
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Speaker 1: don't you do it. There's three tiers of quarterbacks. There's

928
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Speaker 1: the first round guys that are C. J. Stroud, Rice Young,

929
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Speaker 1: Will Levis, Anthony Richardson. Then I've got a second tier

930
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: of guys that's Hendon Hooker. Uh. Actually, it's just Hendon

931
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Speaker 1: Hooker in the second tier. And then the third tier

932
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Speaker 1: of guys is a jumbled mess of Jake Hayner from

933
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Speaker 1: Fresno State, Clayton Tune from Houston, Tanner McKee from Stanford.

934
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Speaker 1: A lot of teams are really high on Tanner McKee.

935
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Speaker 1: Some people even had him mocked in the first round.

936
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Speaker 1: A lot of people like him. I had him, I

937
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: had him pretty high, but not that high. And then

938
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Speaker 1: Max Duggan from TCU is in that third tier as well,

939
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Speaker 1: So lots to look forward to with with some developmental quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I think there are some good ones in there there,

941
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Speaker 1: most certainly, so yeah, give me my developmental quarterback. You

942
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Speaker 1: got Cooper Rush back, and you know, kudos to that

943
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: because it also helps avoid a glaring need, right and

944
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: then you got Will Grill, who a battle with Cooper

945
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Speaker 1: Rush But you know Cooper Rush he's he's not getting

946
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Speaker 1: any younger, and you want to see another step forward

947
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: from Will Grill or you know that developmental quarterback might

948
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: end up taking that spot. So Will Grid's going to

949
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: have to fight for his spot as well, and he

950
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: understands this, So yeah, developmental quarterback. Jerry Jones says he

951
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Speaker 1: wants to do it, so I would not expect that

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Speaker 1: Day three would expire without it being done. So I

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00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: hear you talking, mister Jones, show me, show it there

954
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Speaker 1: you go. If you don't like the result, what do

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Speaker 1: you say if you don't really like the result, than

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Speaker 1: what change change your baby? Time to changeing with the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We'll have more draft talk as we continue

958
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Speaker 1: along and we'll continue to get better at outlining what

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys want, will probably know a lot more of

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Speaker 1: the names from the thirty visit by the time we

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Speaker 1: get around next week as well, so that doesn't for

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Speaker 1: us here on Talking Cowboys. Gotta wait another week. Next Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: ten am Central Time, we'll get right back at it

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Speaker 1: for Chris being Friday stand back for Patrick nose Walker.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long here from the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco and Talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week.

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