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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's Voice news. This is Sunday, the

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Speaker 1: Road Forward, with a word of hope and encouragement for

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Speaker 1: you and those you love. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll

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Speaker 1: be your host our special guest joining us this week.

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Speaker 1: He's the founder and CEO of Well Versed, the ministry

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Speaker 1: to members of Congress, ambassadors at the United Nations in

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Speaker 1: New York City, and other elected officials. Doctor Jim Garlow

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Speaker 1: is back with us. He's lead pastor of New Life

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Speaker 1: Church International in Plant City, Florida. Bishop Calvin colbertis is

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Speaker 1: back with us and he is author, evangelist, and founder

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Speaker 1: of Student Leadership University, someone who speaks to more young

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Speaker 1: people in America than anyone I know. Doctor j Strack

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Speaker 1: is with us. He is the CEO of Luke, where

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Speaker 1: he supports our military, veterans, law enforcement, and their families

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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. Yes, Faith is back in America and

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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about there's a massive faith surge right now.

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Speaker 1: God is in the middle of all of it. And

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Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the horrific assassination of TPUSA leader

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, TPUSA events are continuing and they are massive.

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, Utah State University packing the places out.

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Speaker 2: It's quite moving, really.

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk shared Erica Kirk's quote go to church message,

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Speaker 1: sparking a wave of spiritual revival and increased church attendance nationwide.

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Speaker 1: People are asking will faith shape America's next chapter. I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to. Americans continue, however, to be concerned

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Speaker 1: in fearful potential acts of violence and terrorism on American soil.

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Speaker 2: Rightfully so.

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Speaker 1: And we are on the heels of our twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five America Association of Christian Council's United World Conference, we

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Speaker 1: held at the magnificent Oppland Hotel in Nashville. We were

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Speaker 1: sold out with over seven thousand mental health and ministry

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Speaker 1: leaders there.

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Speaker 2: All I can say is what a move of God.

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Speaker 1: We opened up with Chris Tomlin and concert and never

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Speaker 1: took our foot off the gas until the end. God

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Speaker 1: is raising up a generation of those who have not

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Speaker 1: bowed the need to bail, and they're standing strong. I

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Speaker 1: opened up with the message out of Hoseah two, verse

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Speaker 1: fifteen and chapter fourteen, verse one that in the valley

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Speaker 1: of a Core, that place where there's trial and tribulation, darkness.

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Speaker 1: The scriptures cry out that we should return to the Lord.

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Speaker 1: I think we're seeing that right now, and a door

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Speaker 1: of hope will be opened wide in times like these.

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Speaker 1: Our hope, our strength comes from the Lord. Here's a

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Speaker 1: great verse to hold on to this week from the Bible.

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Speaker 1: It's Psalm ninety nine. The Lord is a stronghold for

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Speaker 1: the oppressed, a stronghold in the times of trouble. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's pray we'll get started. God be with us, bless

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Speaker 1: this time together, use it for your glory. Thank you

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Speaker 1: God for the move of spiritual revival. We're seeing it

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Speaker 1: across our country. God be in the midst of it.

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Speaker 1: Draw us to yourself. Let the people be encouraged. We

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Speaker 1: love you and thank you for your faithfulness in our lives.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is doctor Jim Garlow, who's the founder

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Speaker 1: and CEO of Well Versed the Ministry, to members of Congress,

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Speaker 1: ambassadors at the United Nations in New York City, other

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Speaker 1: elected officials. Doctor Garlow, what ad delight to have you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. You got to be with you,

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Speaker 1: dam Jim Hay over the last year or so, a

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Speaker 1: lot of lions of the faith, if you will, have

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Speaker 1: passed on to glory. And I know this is a

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Speaker 1: special weekend for you because you are officiating doctor James C.

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Speaker 1: Dobson's memorial service. Jim, what a privilege. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know it's a sad time, a glorious time at

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Speaker 1: the same time. You know just your take on and

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Speaker 1: what your thoughts are as you go into the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Well, I got to tell you of all the times

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Speaker 3: I have spoken, and like you, I've spoken a lot

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Speaker 3: of times. I've never felt so unworthy speaking as I

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Speaker 3: have this one because of.

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Speaker 4: The magnitude and the impact of his life.

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Speaker 3: We only have rare moments where we have someone when

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Speaker 3: they pass there we can speak about their influence being

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Speaker 4: Even use the B word billion.

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Speaker 3: You could use that kind of word for Billy Graham

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Speaker 3: or or Bill Bright, Charlie Kirk and you can for

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Speaker 3: James Dobson. There's very few who cast the shadow of

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Speaker 3: that tall. So this is an enormous loss for us,

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Speaker 3: but it's a moment that we need to really cherish.

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Speaker 3: Cherry's known, the fact that he has finished well like

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Speaker 3: he wanted to, and he's enjoying eternality with Heaven in Heaven.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, the recognition that this is

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Speaker 3: one of the most tremendous lives we just witnessed. It's

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Speaker 4: Gotten to be with him.

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Speaker 3: We read about John Wesley or Martin Luther, etc. But

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Speaker 4: Well, what an honor, you know.

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Speaker 1: As I reflect on doctor Dobson, Jim, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot about the time I got to spend with him,

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Speaker 1: my co host radio with him and for him for

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Speaker 1: remember the one of the textbooks was Doctor Dobson Answers

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Speaker 1: so encouraged by him that cut my teeth in. Wanted

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Speaker 1: and what I really appreciated not just his stance on

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: Through the years, he has been a bold, strong voice saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: a time to be timid, but to anchor ourselves. And well,

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Speaker 1: I think of the ministries that have quote spun out

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Speaker 1: James Dobson's family talk, it is again just what a

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Speaker 1: privilege to have some time with him, Jim, like you said,

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Speaker 3: You know, when you look at the numbers, I think

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Speaker 3: it's something like seventy books he wrote. I've written a number,

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Speaker 3: but I'm nothing close to seventy, and they certainly don't

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Speaker 3: have the substance and impact that he has had. And

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Speaker 3: then he's on something like four thousand radio stations I

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Speaker 3: don't remember, it's something twenty nine languages. This is profound influence.

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Speaker 3: But if we shift the focus off of that incredible

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Speaker 3: never once flirted with another woman. He was never once

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Speaker 3: caught in a lie. Ever, he never lied those kinds

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Speaker 3: who understood how to walk in holiness and righteousness. When

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Speaker 3: he was a young boy named Jimmy, I was a

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Speaker 3: many years ago, and I used to know the people

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Speaker 3: would tell me Jimmy Dobson was my newspaper boy. Even

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Speaker 3: man of integranty even as a youth. This is a

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Speaker 3: incredible impact, but on the integrity of the person himself.

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Speaker 1: Jim I remember he was going to a Ralph Read

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Speaker 1: Ralph's read the night before, gave some honor and accolade

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dobson makes his way up to the microphone, and

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Speaker 1: you know how much he was strong on fathering and

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Speaker 1: But that spoke more to me about the power of

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Speaker 1: you know that through the years, he just dropped them

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Speaker 1: spiritual heritage is the greatest gift, a relationship with Christ

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Speaker 2: Jim. Those were his priorities, that was his life.

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Speaker 3: I just learned again when I was talking with the Nay,

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Speaker 3: on the family. They had a completely private line to

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Speaker 3: We always had complete access to him at any times.

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty remarkable statement right there, that he thought

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Speaker 4: To his wife and his two children.

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Speaker 2: That speaks volumes his influence.

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Speaker 1: Last week, Jim, we were in Nashville at our AACC

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Speaker 1: World conference. We were sold out, over seven thousand mental

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Speaker 1: did do is we had a moment on Friday to

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Speaker 1: son and I had a few conferences before brought doctor

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Speaker 1: Dobson out on stage. It was in a special time

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Speaker 1: doctor Dobson has had any influence in your personal life

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Speaker 1: or professional life. I want you to stand and bring

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: The first time when we brought doctor Dobson out, they

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Speaker 1: We'll be praying for you, and as always, thank you

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Speaker 1: Misture we get started. There's a real faith surge going

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Speaker 6: I think we're in the right direction.

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Speaker 6: He was a conservative, that of course supported his conservative views.

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Speaker 1: Bishop, my mind was going back to Utah State University

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Speaker 2: Was magnificent. Bishop.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting how the momentum is really building. You're taking

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Speaker 7: We need to collide theology and science, and this particular

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, God's given you a platform.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just expanding, it's global. But Bishop, just

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Speaker 1: Bless amen, Bishop Hoseiah two fifteen Hoseah fourteen to one.

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Speaker 1: Bishop always great to see you, my friend. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Thank you coming up next.

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Speaker 1: And he is author, evangelist, and founder of Student Leadership University,

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Speaker 1: He's the president and founder of Student Leadership University. The

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Speaker 8: Well, thank you, Tim, And we are always a pleasure.

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Speaker 8: But yet we also know today and the subject matter

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Speaker 8: You know, Tim, on one hand, especially when you consider

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Speaker 8: that date, sixty eight thousand casualties on both sides, and

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Speaker 8: we know that led to what took place with Iran

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Speaker 8: of course, Iran's been very, very involved with everything going

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Speaker 8: on with the Mosque. They're one of their main minor

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Speaker 8: league teams, if you will, and one of their main

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Speaker 8: fronts to increase their power. So thanks to President Trump,

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Speaker 8: thanks to the United States, and of course Israel has

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Speaker 8: a Masoda mentality, and you know, the Masado mentality is

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Speaker 8: is that we're not ever going to be taken captive

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Speaker 8: and we're never going to be pushed off our land again.

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Speaker 8: And so you put all that together, knowing also what

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Speaker 8: the Bible teaches about prophecy. We're in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 8: of the ballgame, no question, and virtually every move has

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Speaker 8: got very serious consequences.

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Speaker 1: Jay, it looks like Benjamin Netanya, who is all in

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Speaker 1: on President Trump's peace plan, and I think reportedly it's

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Speaker 1: being welcomed by both Arab and Palestinian authorities. Do you

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Speaker 1: think it's going to stick, Jay, What do you think

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Speaker 1: is going to happen? I know he sent a message

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Speaker 1: Almas that if Amas doesn't get to the table and

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Speaker 1: agree to these some twenty different points, that he's going

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Speaker 1: to jump on board with the Prime Minister and let

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Speaker 1: Israel go forward and just wipe Amas out.

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Speaker 8: I think hamas has been given one more final opportunity.

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Speaker 8: The difference is we have a president now that when

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Speaker 8: he says this is it, I'm giving you this many days.

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Speaker 8: How many times has the president given a deadline and

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Speaker 8: the day after that deadline was up, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 8: you know, here came the hammer. In other words, though

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Speaker 8: no one's worked harder for peace, to negotiate peace than

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Speaker 8: President Trump, but he also understands that in some places

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Speaker 8: in the world, you've got to set a deadline, and

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Speaker 8: you've got to back up what you say. And one

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Speaker 8: thing Tim I think everybody needs to be aware of

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Speaker 8: and to rejoice in, back in the president's first term,

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Speaker 8: the Abrahamic Covenant, and that began to spread in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 8: This mighty powerful Arab nation bought in to the fact

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Speaker 8: that we are the sons of Abraham. We're talking about Christian,

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Speaker 8: told about Jewish, we're told about Muslim Islamis So therefore

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Speaker 8: we ought to be able to resolve some of these problems.

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Speaker 8: So based on that, one great victory with the abraham

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Speaker 8: Accord is you know, several other major Arab nations have

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Speaker 8: signed on. What makes today in what's going on in

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Speaker 8: this new deadline is that the Arab nations have stood

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Speaker 8: with the United States in saying, Hamas, this is your

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Speaker 8: last chance. Come to the table. And I must say

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Speaker 8: tim and trying to be a man of peace. But

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Speaker 8: I understand that, you know, the people there in Gaza

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Speaker 8: are afraid of Hamas. But I had the privilege to

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Speaker 8: say to several leading Arab ambassadors, you know, gentlemen, with

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Speaker 8: all due respect, the United States had to go to

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Speaker 8: war against the most powerful nation in the history of

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Speaker 8: the world when we declared our independence from England. And

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Speaker 8: I said, so, the people over there have to accept

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Speaker 8: some responsibility. They have to say enough is enough. We

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Speaker 8: don't want to live like this. We're not demons, we're

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Speaker 8: not animals. We want to live with people with a

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Speaker 8: noble life, a belief in God, and we want to

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Speaker 8: get along with our neighbors. And until the people are

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Speaker 8: willing to make us stand against Tamas, I'm you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm apprehensive about how far we are going to get,

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Speaker 8: because that's what it's going to take the people keep

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Speaker 8: going along. I think Hamas will be very reluctant to

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Speaker 8: let go. President Trump's the only one who could get

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Speaker 8: us to this point he will keep his promise, as

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Speaker 8: the Iranians found out, and I'm praying, like everyone, this

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Speaker 8: is a chance once and for all in the name

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Speaker 8: of peace.

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Speaker 2: Jay, we're fighting time.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you with the rise of

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Speaker 1: anti Semitism here in the country, especially on college and

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Speaker 1: university campuses, and we know the Trump administration is really

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Speaker 1: trying to get that under control. But Jay, you are

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Speaker 1: making a move to help expose a lot of faith leaders,

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Speaker 1: Christian leaders and more to Israel. You're planning a pretty

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Speaker 1: significant trip taking some people over the pond, if you will,

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Speaker 1: over to Israel and your goal.

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Speaker 2: Jay, just talked to us about it, very brief.

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Speaker 8: Very simple. We have an opportunity to take pastors, youth pastors,

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Speaker 8: those that love Israel, love America, and love people in

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Speaker 8: the Kingdom of God. We want them to see where

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Speaker 8: the festival massacre took place. We want them to see

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Speaker 8: the tunnels. We want them to see all the efforts

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Speaker 8: that have been made to feed the people of God.

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Speaker 8: Everybody forgets that, but literally several billion dollars through the

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Speaker 8: years trying to feed the people. But Hamas steals the

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Speaker 8: food from the people, and then everybody wants to blame

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Speaker 8: Israel for what happens to the people that live there.

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Speaker 8: So what we want to do is take and we're

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Speaker 8: very prey which coming up in first week of December,

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Speaker 8: to take maybe close to a thousand leading faith leaders

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Speaker 8: and let them see with their own eyes the heart

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Speaker 8: of the Jewish people, their desire for peace. Let them

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Speaker 8: see how vicious Hamas is. And by the way, anybody

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Speaker 8: that allows anti Semitism to be taught on their campus

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Speaker 8: or in their church are in their school, I promise

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Speaker 8: you that has to be pulled out like a cancer.

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Speaker 8: It is one of the most satanic deadly diseases, anti Semitism,

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Speaker 8: and Israel's paid a price for literally hundreds and thousands

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Speaker 8: of years. And it's over. I think with this president

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Speaker 8: and the United States and Christian people saying we are

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Speaker 8: brothers and sisters in this together.

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Speaker 2: That's a jay Stack. Always great to have you, my friend,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 8: Thanks buddy.

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Speaker 1: Join us now is John Sanders. John served on President

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Speaker 2: Today, he is CEO of LUKE.

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Speaker 1: He supports our military, veterans, law enforcement, and their families

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Speaker 2: John, Welcome, what I'd l like to have you. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining me.

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Speaker 9: My pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 1: Tim Hey, John, tell us a little bit about LUKE

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Speaker 1: and what you're doing in and through that organization is

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Speaker 9: Happy to LUKE has been around for over twenty years.

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Speaker 9: We provide healthcare staffing to the Veterans, Administration, Department of Defense,

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Speaker 9: Department of the War, now in the Department of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 9: we're really focused on serving populations that we consider to

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Speaker 1: John, in the midst of this, you and I developed

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Speaker 1: a friendship and I learned a lot about your passion

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Speaker 1: for and commitment to mental health care. Talk to us

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Speaker 1: about how that came about in your life and why

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Speaker 1: you're so I'm serious about it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 9: As you know, Tim, mental health has impacted my family.

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Speaker 9: I had a brother and sister that committed suicide, and

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Speaker 9: I have a daughter that deals with mental health illness

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Speaker 9: and has had several suicide incidents or suicide attempts. In addition,

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Speaker 9: when I was at the US Customers and Border Protection,

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Speaker 9: which is the largest law enforcement agency in the country,

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Speaker 9: they were dealing with a mental health crisis. At the

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Speaker 9: same time there was the humanitarian crisis on the southern border,

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Speaker 9: and so I saw death not only from a personal perspective,

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Speaker 9: but leading one of the great American law enforcement agencies

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Speaker 9: in the country and watching veterans within CBP as well

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Speaker 9: as law enforcement officers commit suicide.

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Speaker 1: John, When you step back, it's been a pretty tough

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Speaker 1: go through the last few years. We've seen soaring levels

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Speaker 1: of depression, anxiety, yes, even suicidality. Loneliness is a big issue, John,

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Speaker 1: and it's really developed fueled a lot of concern by

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Speaker 1: you know all the pressures there under, John, PTSD is

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Speaker 1: pretty serious issue. We know that what some around twenty

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Speaker 1: I just can't take my hat off and salute you

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Speaker 1: more than enough for your commitment to making a dent

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Speaker 1: if you will in this thing, because we've got to

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Speaker 1: do something. We've got to unite. And I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: the church. If there's a platform for the helping community

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Speaker 1: to step up in and through, it's the church community. John,

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Speaker 1: you have a real fervor in your heart about engaging

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Speaker 1: people of faith in this area.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And you know, Tim, I think with the assassination

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Speaker 9: but I think one of the great things he said

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Speaker 9: is we will not have a free society if this

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Speaker 9: country goes atheist. And if you just look at the

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Speaker 9: data around what's happening in the Armed services with veterans,

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Speaker 9: a veteran is twice as likely to go see a

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Speaker 9: pastor as they are a secular person and so and

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Speaker 9: when you look at the Army in particular, there's some

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Speaker 9: studies that have been done for people that come to

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Speaker 9: see chaplains, and fifty percent of the people that come

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Speaker 9: to see a chaplain have depression issues and forty percent

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Speaker 9: have PTSD.

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Speaker 1: John, I know, we just came off the heels of

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Speaker 1: our AACC world conference, the American Association of Christian Counselors.

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Speaker 1: We had some we're sold out, seven plus thousand people

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Speaker 1: in the room, faith and mental health leaders coming together.

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Speaker 2: You are a big sponsor of that event.

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Speaker 1: John, and you and I f had conversation is about

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Speaker 1: you want to recruit clinicians, coaches, you want to recruit chaplains,

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Speaker 1: you name it, people who understand and have a kind

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Speaker 1: of an alignment with people who are going through challenging their.

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Speaker 2: Life on matters of faith.

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Speaker 1: You you really want to build that as a part

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Speaker 1: on because John, the need is so great. There's a

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Speaker 1: massive gap between those who need help with help to

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and you know what we're going to do is

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Speaker 9: If we want to create an army of two hundred

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Speaker 9: help our heroes flourish in the United States, it's a

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Speaker 9: shame that there are people that are seeking help and

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Speaker 9: don't want to go talk to another not that there's

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Speaker 9: anything wrong with clinicians, but they don't want to go

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Speaker 9: to another doctor to get another pill. They want to

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Speaker 9: go to people of faith. And as you know, and

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Speaker 9: as I believe, at the end of the day, true

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Speaker 9: hope and healing is only going to come from God.

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Speaker 9: So I think it's just critical at this moment in

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Speaker 1: And encouraging piece, Sir, John, is just how faith is

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Speaker 1: surging in America. I know we talked about Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you're going through hard times, people

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Speaker 1: seeing it all over the place. Look at what's happening

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Speaker 1: Packed the place out this week. John, It's amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: But people want God as a part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: They want that brought into that quote counseling relationship. They

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Speaker 1: want to see God come alive in their life. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think you're so committed. That's why I'm so

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Speaker 9: Amen, telling you know, I think God has opened a

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Speaker 9: this country. And I think it's just incumbent upon all

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Speaker 9: of us as believers to walk through that door and

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Speaker 9: do all that we can in fulfillment of the Great

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Speaker 1: John, in your work, you've come across some data. You

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Speaker 1: flourishing idea, and there's this global flourishing study that came out.

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Speaker 1: led that, and Byron Johnson out of Baylor. The research

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Speaker 1: they found, I think they did some big, massive random

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Speaker 1: Some I think it's over twenty countries they've got sampling

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Speaker 1: out of.

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Speaker 2: But they found that what are.

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Speaker 1: These common denominators that help people flourish? And here's what

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Speaker 1: they found. At the heart of it all is faith

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Speaker 1: that people who are anchored up in their relationship John,

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Speaker 1: it does something. And today's generations as they struggle in

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Speaker 1: this is that piece that might just pull it all

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Speaker 1: back together again. About the flourishing stuff. Tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about what you are understanding and what you're hoping.

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Speaker 1: I know you're trying to get to build up a

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Speaker 1: labor category around coaching to help step up and into

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Speaker 1: these moments because there's again there's such a wide gap

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Speaker 2: We don't have enough providers.

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Speaker 9: Amen. And you said it earlier, Tim, I'll just come

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Speaker 9: back to that. It's it's the four Seas or the

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Speaker 9: We need coaches, we need clinicians. So there is absolutely

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Speaker 9: the country. We need content, we need chaplains, and we

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Speaker 9: need the church. We need all of that to come

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Speaker 9: together in fulfillment of the mission to help these heroes

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Speaker 9: flourish at the end of the day. And I don't

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Speaker 9: think that, you know. I think one of the things

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Speaker 9: Tyler has just done a phenomenal job is how do

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Speaker 9: you measure that that flourishing index sort of the flourishing score.

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Speaker 9: So it's evidence informed, but faith is a key part

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Speaker 9: what is so great about the Global Version Study is

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Speaker 9: that if we are going to really thrive as human beings,

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Speaker 9: we have to have faith. We cannot thrive without faith.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was having a conversation this week too with my

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Speaker 1: good friend Harold Koneg out of Duke University, and Harold

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Speaker 1: is probably the pre eminent scholar in the world on

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Speaker 1: mental health and faith, and he just said, Tim, the

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Speaker 1: evidence is overwhelming, it's too strong. You can't deny it.

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Speaker 1: Faith really does matter at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: He I love that verse out of Josea two verse fifteen,

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Speaker 1: basically in the Valley of Acre, when you're going through

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Speaker 1: those dark moments of challenge and brokenness, return to the

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Speaker 1: Lord and a door of hope will be opened wide.

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Speaker 1: I see it happening in culture right now. That's why

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Speaker 1: we're seeing a revival as spiritual awakening. And John, I

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Speaker 1: think in the midst of it, just maybe people are

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Speaker 1: going to turn to God like never before, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: a door of hope will open wide. John, I salute

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Speaker 1: you and the great work that you're doing in and

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Speaker 1: through Luke. If people want to learn more about you

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Speaker 1: the organization, maybe even how to be a part.

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Speaker 2: Where can they go?

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Speaker 9: I think they can go to two places. They can

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Speaker 9: go to our website, which is lukestaffing dot com. We

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Speaker 9: have a human Flourishing page that talks more about this.

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Speaker 9: I think another great resource is we are working with

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Speaker 9: the American Association of Christian Counselors creating a Human Flourishing Alliance.

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Speaker 9: There's a page on AACC's website. Go there, sign up

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Speaker 9: be involved in helping people flourish at the end of

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Speaker 9: the day. That is my greatest prayer for everybody listening

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Speaker 9: to this.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: John Sanders, CEO of LUKE, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me.

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Speaker 9: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Tim.

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Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 5: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Hey, these are unprecedented times. There are difficult times, but

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Speaker 1: God's in control. I know that and he's at work.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're pressing close to Him in his heart.

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Speaker 1: Know that God loves you and that he wants to

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Speaker 1: be in your life. I hope our strength comes from

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Speaker 1: the Lord. Again, here's that encouraging verse from the Bible

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Speaker 1: to hold onto this week, Psalm ninety nine. The Lord

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Speaker 1: is a stronghold for the oppressed, a stronghold during times

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Speaker 1: of trouble. I hope you know that you can look

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Speaker 1: to God for wisdom and direction in your everyday life.

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Speaker 1: Let me also say this, though there's a professional counselor,

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Speaker 1: I've learned that it's normal to have concern, maybe fear

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Speaker 1: or worry when life isn't going the way it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to go. Also learned that if you aren't careful, it

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Speaker 1: can begin to consume you, control you. It's easy to

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Speaker 1: lose perspective. Maybe some would feel like hope. It can

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Speaker 1: get so dark for some that they feel like life

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Speaker 1: would be better off without them. I say this every week.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to live like that. Taking a step

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Speaker 1: reaching out for help it's often the gateway to a

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Speaker 1: new day or a new you.

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Speaker 2: If you are so many.

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Speaker 1: Love is struggling, I hope you'll do that, reach out

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Speaker 1: for help. There are wonderful counsels and pastors who care

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Speaker 1: you can help you find the hope, the answers that

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Speaker 1: you're looking for. There are a lot of wonderful resources

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Speaker 1: out there now love to connect you with. Some of

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Speaker 1: those you can just simply go up on our website

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Speaker 1: at AACC dot net that's aa CC dot net. Or

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Speaker 1: try out our new website called Christian Care Connect. It's

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Speaker 1: really a Christian mental health care connect website christiancareconnect dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a personal relationship with God in Christ,

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Speaker 1: invite you right now to have God come into your life.

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Speaker 1: Simply ask Him to forgive you of your sin and

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Speaker 1: to be your Lord and savior. It's as simple as

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Speaker 1: praying a prayer from your heart to God something like this.

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Speaker 2: You can pray with me, Lord Jesus, I need you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sinner. I believe that you died for my sins.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn from them and invite you into

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Speaker 1: I want to follow you as my Lord and Savior.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for loving me, for giving your life from me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the gift of grace, forgiveness, and the

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Speaker 1: gift of eternal life. I pray all this in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 2: Amen. You know what the Bible says.

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Speaker 1: The Bible says in John three point sixteen, for God

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Speaker 1: so loved the world that he gave us only begotten son,

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Speaker 1: that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have

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Speaker 1: ever lasting life. And then in Romans chapter ten, verse nine,

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Speaker 1: it says that if you confess with your mouth that

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Speaker 1: says again, you will be saved if you prayed that prayer.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's exactly where you are now. I'd encourage

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Speaker 1: you go serve Him for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: He'll give you the strength to do it. Hey, let

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Speaker 1: me say this too, that if you're struggling with hopelessness

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Speaker 1: you can get out of that free fall, hope you'll

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Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call the suicide hotline. That

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Speaker 1: number is simply nine eight eight nine to eight eight,

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