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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Wally here with me Williamson and Matt It
Speaker 1: is time for our final mock draft, last one. We've
Speaker 1: done about fifty of these. We've taken you through all
Speaker 1: the little variances and everything that could happen. How our
Speaker 1: our minds have changed on guys over. I mean we've evolved.
Speaker 1: We have evolved over the course of this draft. Early
Speaker 1: on we would not have taken a running back in
Speaker 1: the first round. Then we realized that there's only three
Speaker 1: and if you don't take them in the first round,
Speaker 1: you might get shut out. Uh. So that's the way
Speaker 1: things of a volt here. We know that, you know,
Speaker 1: we know the positions that are deep, we know the
Speaker 1: ones that are thine set plan as all teams do
Speaker 1: at this point, like, well, I can probably get a
Speaker 1: linebacker here. I can probably get this here. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it works that way. To change, you gotta
Speaker 1: be able the ziggen zag as needed. Uh And for
Speaker 1: our draft, that's what's going to have to happen here
Speaker 1: because our pick is up at twenty four. Reason the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus macwock draft here and I went completely
Speaker 1: public on this. I'm not using their rankings at all.
Speaker 1: And the trades on this one. Yes, Nausea Harris is
Speaker 1: not available. It's gone now, it's decision time. So the
Speaker 1: top guys available Trayvon Murig no no, Rashad Bateman, Greg Green,
Speaker 1: Newsom remember possibly Elijah Moore, No, Jason Noah, No, uh
Speaker 1: Sante Samuel Azizolari, Tevin Jenkins, Dylan Raddin's um Zaven Collins, Collins,
Speaker 1: Jamie Davis, uh Landon Dickerson is there. We have two
Speaker 1: trade back offers here. Both other running backs are available though,
Speaker 1: um yeah, A t n and Javante Williams are both available.
Speaker 1: So our trade offers are to move back with the Packers.
Speaker 1: That's a neighborhood I'd like to be and I don't
Speaker 1: want to go too far. I'm a little you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trade back dude, but with one back off the board,
Speaker 1: it's a little crazy. But we know that the Ravens
Speaker 1: have to Cleveland and Baltimore both have picks before. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think there's a really good chance Baltimore trades back.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo is still behind us, Tampa. Tampa is still
Speaker 1: behind us. Miami and the Jets have a lot of picks.
Speaker 1: If they want to come up for a back, they'll
Speaker 1: already have two guys in the hopper. Jacksonville's got a
Speaker 1: lot of m O. The Bills are the team, the
Speaker 1: other team that wants to trade with us. So it's
Speaker 1: it's Green Bay and Buffalo that's twenty nine and thirty.
Speaker 1: Who's given us more other stuff? Well, let's see here
Speaker 1: on the green Bay's trade up for back Buffalo might be.
Speaker 1: So if we go twenty obviously, and we get sixty
Speaker 1: two from Buffalo, it's a wonderful neighborhood dad and extra pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that idea. Let's see if they
Speaker 1: will do that. I am worried that AEN goes. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna toss into fifty four. And if a t N goes,
Speaker 1: are fine, I'll take Javante Williams a twenty nine and
Speaker 1: be really happy. I'd be fine with that too, as
Speaker 1: long as all of a sudden he can offer the
Speaker 1: trade and they declined they don't want to give up
Speaker 1: sixty two. Okay, Well how about I thought they offered
Speaker 1: that to us. No, we have to have they they're
Speaker 1: on the phone what we'll take. What we'll take here. Um,
Speaker 1: so sixty two needs to be involved. How about ninety two,
Speaker 1: nine and ninety two and the future four? We can
Speaker 1: try that in the first round. We're keeping it. I
Speaker 1: threw in two fifty four. They're just because. Uh, and
Speaker 1: we'll see if we can get Buffaloes fourth round pick
Speaker 1: next year. I'm a green Bay. I'm sorry green Bay.
Speaker 1: They didn't like that. Wow, how about next year's fifth then?
Speaker 1: All right, that's about my best I can do for
Speaker 1: you though that they accepted, So we gave up twenty
Speaker 1: nine or we give up twenty four and two fifty four?
Speaker 1: Great for two and next year's fifth round pick for
Speaker 1: green Bay is lovely. Yeah, that's that fifth round pick
Speaker 1: for next year. That's kind of the going rate for
Speaker 1: word to quire. You want to trade for somebody, a
Speaker 1: veteran guy during the season, that's the that's the that's
Speaker 1: the monetary value that Now you can do that yet
Speaker 1: an extra one all right, so you already you're gonna
Speaker 1: an extra fifth and yeah to alright, we're back up again.
Speaker 1: The green Bay moved up to take moig good. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville then took a t n Wow. I think that's possible.
Speaker 1: Cleveland took Zavan Collins mhm. Rashad Bateman goes to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Samuel caused me to the Saints. Okay, and we're on
Speaker 1: the clock. We just gotta take Williams and be happy
Speaker 1: about it. Go who and we've got an extra ninety
Speaker 1: second pick, which is that area that we've wanted to
Speaker 1: move into? You know my roomie theory. If I'm Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind bringing a t N in with Lawrence
Speaker 1: on and off the field. No, that makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so, Javonte Williams is our pick. We're good now,
Speaker 1: we're just moving. We said we got fifty seven two here,
Speaker 1: so we four tops by making we got it back.
Speaker 1: We like good alright, So we're back up again here
Speaker 1: at fifty five. We have no trade offers this time.
Speaker 1: It's interestingly enough. That's fine. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: want to make any more trades of this. I think
Speaker 1: we got what we wanted out of it, and if
Speaker 1: we don't make another deal, I'm cool with that. So
Speaker 1: the top guys available, how about this one? Elijah Moore,
Speaker 1: Wow Walker, Little Dylan Raddin's Elijah Molden, Jamon Davis. Davis
Speaker 1: would be wonderful. Landon Dickerson, Okay, Uh, Jabriel Cox, I
Speaker 1: think to stake David Richie Grant, Javon holland Quinn Miners.
Speaker 1: I like both those centers a lot more is probably
Speaker 1: my favorite guy. But I don't think the deals can
Speaker 1: take a second round. I don't think they've done that enough. Um,
Speaker 1: let's just take a look and see who all is still.
Speaker 1: So the top three centers are all still available, as
Speaker 1: is Kendrick Green. I'm thinking Jamie Davis, I think you
Speaker 1: have to. Yeah, I think you have to. And you
Speaker 1: you you, thank you, you're lucky stars. If that happens
Speaker 1: that way, that'd be wonderful. Yeah. Um, and you hope
Speaker 1: that you know you got thirty picks between now and
Speaker 1: eighty seven. There's four centers still, actually five if you
Speaker 1: count Yers. Yeah right, I mean those Green and Myers,
Speaker 1: one of those guys consolation prizes Davis here and second thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the pick. Yeah alright, Harpe. Yeah, we're cruising
Speaker 1: down along here, and we're getting back up on the
Speaker 1: clock here and we're back up again. Matt Matt, Matt.
Speaker 1: Top guys available. Elijah Molden. Wow, you would be nice
Speaker 1: with those two. It's your real Cox Jamar Johnson and
Speaker 1: Darius Washington, Kelvin Joseph, Kendrick Green. So the centers have gone,
Speaker 1: the three yere gone, the top three are gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um man, I wish we did more on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: but I've done a moment. We've got another pick coming
Speaker 1: up at ninety two. Yeah, so we got eighty seven
Speaker 1: and ninety two here. Let me run this strategy by Okay.
Speaker 1: I've done this once or twice with Max late Lead
Speaker 1: where I wanted to take Day two lineman, offensive lineman
Speaker 1: and it just didn't jive. And I think this is
Speaker 1: the same similar case where if we take Molden here,
Speaker 1: I think you draft like three offensive linemen. I think
Speaker 1: you take the quality or easily the best player available
Speaker 1: and he fits in need. I mean, your your defense
Speaker 1: is in really good shape with these two draft picks
Speaker 1: and the rest of the way, I'm taking an extra
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean I'm taking maybe two tackles in
Speaker 1: the center here. Yeah, I mean I know that doesn't
Speaker 1: add well. I mean we got to pick a pick
Speaker 1: at ninety two here again, so if we get we
Speaker 1: take Elijah Molden here. One are the chances that Kendrick
Speaker 1: Green goes between here and I just think you take
Speaker 1: Molden because he's the besition he should be. He should
Speaker 1: be in the second round. We're in the third round.
Speaker 1: You take now, I think we have to change our
Speaker 1: strategy that we don't necessarily. I don't know we could
Speaker 1: afford to take our highest graded player again. Well, we
Speaker 1: filled the running back need, we filled the inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: and we'll have slot corner. So I'm drafting line like
Speaker 1: crazy now, and with the strategy of I want an
Speaker 1: offensive line that doesn't stink. You know that. That's a
Speaker 1: logical way of looking at it nowadays is just don't
Speaker 1: be horrible on the offensive line. Don't have huge holes.
Speaker 1: So if we bring in three rookies and only one
Speaker 1: of them hits, let alone two of them have nice careers. Okay,
Speaker 1: look where you got dots in last year? Yeah, fourth round,
Speaker 1: and that's the kind of guy that I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: But I want to bring in three of them, alright,
Speaker 1: So Molden is an easy pick here. Yeah, just like
Speaker 1: David all day long, if if if the drafts gonna
Speaker 1: take give you gifts, you take them. So the picts
Speaker 1: right after that, Chess s Ratt, Pete Werner. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's great for us because you have a linebacker, but
Speaker 1: it's a nice neighborhood to have picked those guys, if
Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland, Marvin Wilson. So if we would have passed
Speaker 1: on taking jam and Davis in the second round, we
Speaker 1: could have taken one of the centers. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, I mean that wouldn't be
Speaker 1: so bad because then we could go cornerback later and
Speaker 1: still get I don't know they're gonna be a good
Speaker 1: streak Molden and the third, our second pick would probably
Speaker 1: be minors or Dickerson, and we end up with Werner
Speaker 1: and the fourth. Okay, so now we almost have to
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman. Yes, so you got Kendrick Green,
Speaker 1: you got Drew Dolman, you got Josh Meyers. Uh is
Speaker 1: the center guys, Jack Anderson Cola. I think Doman's a
Speaker 1: really good prospect. I'm not sure he's the Steelers. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's moving. I mean he's I
Speaker 1: think he's more of his own blocking finesse nine names.
Speaker 1: Guy Brady Christensen is still available. Stone Horsyth is still available, horses,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Robert Haines, he still available. I think he
Speaker 1: might be a center. But is Roville by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, and then he went to the
Speaker 1: i MG Academy. Jante Brown, David Moore, James Hudson, Brendan James,
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown. I think you'd take the best center available here.
Speaker 1: There are tackles available that you might be able to
Speaker 1: get their centers. I like too. I like Kendrick Green
Speaker 1: a lot. I think he's scream stealer hopefully. Spencer Brown
Speaker 1: to me is interesting. He is, and maybe we can
Speaker 1: squeeze one of those guys out and in there up
Speaker 1: again here, So I'm still only looking at a lineman.
Speaker 1: Now we now we take a look at the offensive tackles.
Speaker 1: They weren't touched. Um well, I'm sorry I'm wrong about that,
Speaker 1: because uh, Spencer Brown was taking two picks ahead of
Speaker 1: our pick. He was the one that kind of stood out.
Speaker 1: Is project stealer Upside? Christiansen is still available, Okay, Stone
Speaker 1: Foresight still available. I prefer Forsyth to the Steelers. Robert
Speaker 1: Haines he still available. I think Haynes he's an inside guy.
Speaker 1: Deante Smith still available, Jay Len Moore available, Uh, Tommy
Speaker 1: Doyle out of Miami, Ohio. Um, there's still some guys.
Speaker 1: Josh Ball still available, and he's probably more of a
Speaker 1: late See. I think if you get if you take
Speaker 1: Forsyth here, I think you don't have to take a
Speaker 1: bunch of offensive one because you know, I think you
Speaker 1: got two on your list. Yeah, foreslightly, we might pick two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the guy to take. If if the
Speaker 1: team we're picking Ford needed a guy to play right now,
Speaker 1: I'm probably taking Christensen, right. I agree. I think Foresight,
Speaker 1: but that that that depends on Okay, what are you
Speaker 1: looking for here? Are you looking for somebody who can
Speaker 1: compete for a starting job this year? Then you take
Speaker 1: Christiansen and that, or do you take Foresight here and
Speaker 1: you're you're happy with you two guys that you have.
Speaker 1: I think you take Foresight and has in the match. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Foresights to pick. Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not done with Lineman now. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: I might take a six round turner, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And he's still there. He might be my
Speaker 1: starting center. We're back up again at one forty. We
Speaker 1: haven't addressed edge. No, that's true. We haven't addressed what
Speaker 1: pretty much, we've addressed that. Getting that extra pick helps.
Speaker 1: Oh it's awesome. We could take a look at the
Speaker 1: tight end position here. Uh, Tommy Trembill still available. I
Speaker 1: don't see that happening on either. That's cheating, I think,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Uh yeah, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth round. He's gone. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna last long tight ends go. There's only five of them. Uh,
Speaker 1: the edge guys still available? Are you're looking at for
Speaker 1: one of those type of guys or Jonathan Cooper, Shaka,
Speaker 1: Tony Kane, Doo, Koons, Gholston, Genarius Robinson, Charles Snowdon, Ernest Brown,
Speaker 1: Patrick Jones, to Ron Johnson, Raymond Johnson, Koons and Coon
Speaker 1: stands out there to me? Yeah, me too. There was
Speaker 1: another one, Um Goldson. They're a little bit different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I prefer Coons. Tony stands out there as well,
Speaker 1: but I'd rather have something with a little worse sand
Speaker 1: in his pants to He's a little light for what
Speaker 1: we're asking him to do. Umkon's the pick. Yeah, Coon's
Speaker 1: is the pick. Now I'm gonna push another another offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and I'm still gonna be thinking about here. Bring a
Speaker 1: lot on the campus Sat though too. That's not horrible.
Speaker 1: Although Molten can play some safety for you know, need be.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's an outside corner with upside, i'd
Speaker 1: consider that. All right, we're back up at two sixteen
Speaker 1: top guys available. We can go any direction we want
Speaker 1: to go. Here, we've filled the needs. You know, top guys.
Speaker 1: Bill Jamar Johnson, he always falls. The safety is still
Speaker 1: there from Indiana. I feel like that's cheating too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it is. Kate Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's a really good player again. Another bigger slot, Bobby
Speaker 1: Brown out of Texas A and M. I like Bobby Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's your prerogative if you want to take him. Um
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert. If we didn't have Williams or if this
Speaker 1: was a later pick, maybe I like Herbert. Trey Brown
Speaker 1: is still available. I don't think we take two slots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. We can kill me, you know though, I
Speaker 1: get it. But then if your sluck gets hurt, then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're back to moving Cam Sutton
Speaker 1: into the I know, you know, Okay, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just think Bobby Brown over him with ye. You know
Speaker 1: Chris Evans. I love Chris Evans, but I'd rather I'd
Speaker 1: rather go a big guy. Justin Hilliard. He's not from me.
Speaker 1: Chris Carter loves him. He's a two eight pounded linebacker
Speaker 1: that ran four eight. He's Robert s What do you
Speaker 1: need another Robert Speleen. You've got, You've got Robert Spline.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of things that really,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good player. Here's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: David Moore at Grambling. Yeah he is. You could have
Speaker 1: a pretty good mashing line, you know, um and you'd
Speaker 1: be happy to add. Well, here's the pick. I don't
Speaker 1: have to read him. Derek Barnes is still available. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he took Jamie Davis. I don't care. I mean,
Speaker 1: he he's just a good football player. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing cart wheels over and with what we have compared
Speaker 1: to you, he would. He would be your special teams demon.
Speaker 1: You can play him inside, you can play him outside.
Speaker 1: If Koons doesn't hit, If Coon's isn't ready to play,
Speaker 1: here's your guy. You know, maybe you could do I
Speaker 1: mean put it this way, if if Coon's in Barnes
Speaker 1: or your top outside linebackers next year, your just your
Speaker 1: top backups. Okay, you're gonna keep four or five anyway
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep. You're gonna keep at least nine, maybe
Speaker 1: ten linebackers. I mean it's great to have that. Arthur
Speaker 1: Moates did this or Kimmin's. I mean it's nice, you know,
Speaker 1: Chad Brown. It's nice to have someone that can do
Speaker 1: both and they're not easy to find. My question with this, dude, Barnes,
Speaker 1: is he a good enough pass rusher? I mean, would
Speaker 1: they have moved him from edge if he was a
Speaker 1: demon because he was good? Two years ago? Pursuit of
Speaker 1: brought up the fact that nobody's ever throwing the ball
Speaker 1: against Purdue because they're always ahead. Okay, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So you can make tackles again, your
Speaker 1: best player, we can do put your put your best
Speaker 1: player where he can stop the well, yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: better than yeah. I mean he has seven sacks last
Speaker 1: you're playing or two years ago playing at Perdue when
Speaker 1: nobody has to throw the ball against no, I hear you.
Speaker 1: I knew it was productive, but is he a good
Speaker 1: enough pass rusher to be an outside linebacker in this
Speaker 1: scheme in a pinch or is it? Can you do both?
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I guess really helps special teams.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here at the other guy. I just
Speaker 1: think that he's I would prefer Bobby Brown. I might
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman. We got two picks left. We
Speaker 1: got this one and we got two five. I can
Speaker 1: run you through the offensive lineman still left, you get
Speaker 1: Brendan James. It's hamas ms Okay, I'm still saying that wrong.
Speaker 1: But it's not James. Okay, Okay, Thomas Larry Borham. But
Speaker 1: Cole Van Lanning, I'm not even sure that is. He's
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, William William Sherman, Robert Jones from middles Tennessee.
Speaker 1: These are the tackles, Carson Green, Dan Moore, John Ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody there's making me super the interior guys, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that we need because Green can play set
Speaker 1: garter center for you ifinn he does both. He got
Speaker 1: David Moore there. Still that's good. Drew Dalman true center,
Speaker 1: though Michael Manet true center, said Darius Hutchinson from South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Morrison over those guys mine with that cornerbacks. You
Speaker 1: don't think Bobby Brown would be a nice edition though,
Speaker 1: as I don't, I'm not. I'm not in the market
Speaker 1: to take any the de tackles from the worst D
Speaker 1: tackle class in the history of D tackle classes. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he was any good, he would already be gone.
Speaker 1: We're in the sixth round. Und. I mean in a
Speaker 1: in a soft defensive tackle class. I just don't think
Speaker 1: he's developmental guy that could be a Steeler like new Nos.
Speaker 1: I don't love him, but I mean he's got heavy hands,
Speaker 1: long arms. Um, I'm fine with the linebacker special teams coach,
Speaker 1: We're happy about it. Coach Smith will say, the corners
Speaker 1: you got Brown, Wild Goose, Elijah Griffin, shak Here Brown again.
Speaker 1: A lot of slots. Mark Gilbert from Duke Antonio, Phillips
Speaker 1: from Ball State, Jason Pinnock from pitt He's kind of interesting. Um.
Speaker 1: Nashan Right from Oregon State. Darren Hall from San Diego State,
Speaker 1: He's kind interesting. Chris Wilcox from b y U. Brian
Speaker 1: Mills from North Carolina Central. Um, I think you can
Speaker 1: convince me that the Purdue dude is the best player
Speaker 1: on the board. I think I just love him as
Speaker 1: a player. I think he's Williams would be a Steeler
Speaker 1: next year? No, probably not. This is this is his
Speaker 1: last go round. Lane is gonna be a restricted free agent.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick up that? Not a Steeler, so I
Speaker 1: can I can never have enough guys that can run
Speaker 1: and play linebacker. Pushes Marcus Allen off the roster. Yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Um shouldn't he just shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: They haven't ranked one thirty one. This is to sixteen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he is more in that mid one.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a game you're looking at. You just
Speaker 1: take the gift. And we've done that a lot this draft.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm hesitant to do it again. But the
Speaker 1: trade down lets that stuff happen. It does, We're gonna
Speaker 1: take this guy. If we don't trade down, we're up
Speaker 1: again at uh Khalil Herbert still available, Chris Evans still available,
Speaker 1: Justin Hilliard, Jonathan Cooper, Tomorrow Hamlin, David Moore. I would
Speaker 1: probably go there, Drew Dalman, true center, Elijah Griffin, Puca Williams,
Speaker 1: Briley Moore of the tight end from KSE State, Elijah Mitchell,
Speaker 1: those three backs are kind of interesting, Herbert. You can
Speaker 1: always bring in another. Here's an interesting one, John Bates,
Speaker 1: the tight end from Boise State. It's not bad. It's
Speaker 1: not bad value there. Um, I'd probably take the big,
Speaker 1: mashing interior offensive lineman. Now, yeah, I hear you. We're
Speaker 1: trying to build a running game. Here. Your boy Kyl
Speaker 1: and grandson from SMU Aadelie. He's for the Steelers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you jack kind of move two or thirty pound
Speaker 1: guy Matt Bushman from b y U. Not bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these late tight ends are I mean, are they better
Speaker 1: than gentry if the answer is obviously yes. But I
Speaker 1: think you can find a guy. You know, but that's
Speaker 1: such a low ball. I mean it's really low. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: is that even worth it to knock him off the
Speaker 1: roster for seventh round pick when you could just one
Speaker 1: on the field. You could just sign one of them
Speaker 1: after the draft, because is way better than all these guys.
Speaker 1: At this point, there's only like ten picks left in
Speaker 1: the draft. So you're on the phone with guys like, hey,
Speaker 1: if we don't we don't draft you here. So you
Speaker 1: take the best player available in this situation, the guy
Speaker 1: you can't maybe get in free agency. Is that David Moore?
Speaker 1: Is that is that Doman? I think it's the offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: which is one of those would be fine. Finney could
Speaker 1: just be a pure guard or you may even start.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean I don't mind throwing.
Speaker 1: When we had, uh, I think more can play center.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. When we had we had wasn't zero
Speaker 1: line didn't say that it was lancer. Greg might have
Speaker 1: said that that that maybe Dave. Because David Moore six one,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the question. But he's six pounds, but
Speaker 1: he can move. I mean, I think it depends what
Speaker 1: you want from the position. I mean, Dolman couldn't be
Speaker 1: any more different. I think Dolman's gonna start somewhere. I
Speaker 1: think I want more for this team. I think this
Speaker 1: team wants to be a physical running game. And how
Speaker 1: much longer is is David DeCastro gonna be around? Oh?
Speaker 1: He could be a starting guard for you. So you
Speaker 1: throw this against you know, you can say, okay, if
Speaker 1: if two years from now you're starting interior line is
Speaker 1: dots and um green, green and more, you're mashing people, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right right and stone forsythin left tackle with you know,
Speaker 1: with banner banner right tackle. You got it right, you're
Speaker 1: mashing some some potatoes. No, I think More's the pick um.
Speaker 1: Even if he has a B J. Finney career, he's
Speaker 1: still worth the pick. It's a seventh round pick. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: all right, David Moore's picks, and we took three offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Cheap offensive linemen are great. I mean it makes your
Speaker 1: salary cap work much better. Okay, so they do the
Speaker 1: grades here on maybe we took it early back well,
Speaker 1: but they gave us a B for the trade, all right.
Speaker 1: They gave us an A minus for taking Javonte Williams
Speaker 1: at nine. He's our top rated back, top raded back
Speaker 1: because he's so good after contact. But that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: Jamon Davis we got a C plus. They've seen lower
Speaker 1: on Davis everybody else, like we did those Todd and Mels.
Speaker 1: He probably shouldn't have been available at fifty. He might
Speaker 1: have been cheating. Uh eight Sevenlijah Molden's a B minus.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. Kendrick Green at ninety two a
Speaker 1: C plus. Fine Stone forsythe at is an A minus.
Speaker 1: That's a home. I mean, he's just highly potential to
Speaker 1: be a starting tackle. Malcolm Coon's at one forties a
Speaker 1: C plus, it would be a good fit here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. Uh. Derek Barnes to sixteen a C plus,
Speaker 1: got you. Uh, David Moore at two forty five is
Speaker 1: an A minus, just a good value hit. So we
Speaker 1: ended up with I mean, I think they even more
Speaker 1: at that pick, even if the Steelers second and third
Speaker 1: round picks were the offensive line. Yeah, we've got three a's,
Speaker 1: which we never get. Yeah, they're hard graders to overall
Speaker 1: our B plus. We got a B plus, probably the
Speaker 1: best grade we've ever got from that site. I think.
Speaker 1: So trading downs great. If we wouldn't have traded down,
Speaker 1: do you think we would have taken Williams. I'm start
Speaker 1: to lean towards Williams over a t N. I kind
Speaker 1: of I'm like I did from the beginning. I'm like
Speaker 1: Williams better the whole time. Um, but I can see
Speaker 1: a t N going ahead him, So I think he
Speaker 1: will go creeps into your thinking when you're looking at that.
Speaker 1: But I would rather have Williams if i'm picking, and
Speaker 1: think he's so much more physical. Yeah, I think, I
Speaker 1: mean a t N is a little straight line ish
Speaker 1: to me. I think he's got a lot of potential
Speaker 1: as a receiver Williams. Williams is not just good in protection,
Speaker 1: he's great. He kills people in protection and Naja. Harris
Speaker 1: has a little work to do, to say the least,
Speaker 1: but he's got the body type two nd um. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys can learn it. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys don't get asked to do it because probably
Speaker 1: we can have one of the best weapons on the
Speaker 1: field past blocking. But but you can tell what Williams
Speaker 1: went to when Williams went to North Carolina went there
Speaker 1: as a as a linebacker. That physicality comes out a
Speaker 1: running style and his passport thing about him supposedly an
Speaker 1: awesome kid and unbelievably hard worker. I think it'd be
Speaker 1: a great fit here. I think he screams Steelers. He does.
Speaker 1: Harris does as well. I think, yeah, I'm not discounting,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking bad about a t N or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But but if it was no trade offers,
Speaker 1: we're sitting there at twenty four. I think I take
Speaker 1: Williams over a t N. And I've been going back
Speaker 1: and forth and not for a month, but you had
Speaker 1: Zaven Collins available, there's the question, Yeah, and then do
Speaker 1: you take the what do you value? And if we
Speaker 1: had taken Savin Collins there, we obviously aren't taking Jaman Day.
Speaker 1: We are getting running We're getting j Secon. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not getting a running back there. I could probably end
Speaker 1: up with a sermon in the third because you're running
Speaker 1: backs went uh. As we mentioned, Harris went at twenty two,
Speaker 1: a t N at five, and then we went to
Speaker 1: Javante Williams at twenty nine. And as you said, you've
Speaker 1: you've heard from multiple people that Tampa Bay loves Williams.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the rumor I keep hearing from a
Speaker 1: pretty good source. Actually, um so, would you rather have
Speaker 1: your first this this mark aside? Would you rather have
Speaker 1: Zavin Minerts sermon or Williams mine rts Werner. I'd rather
Speaker 1: William Myers Warner. I think the drop off between that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those guys that drops off to me between
Speaker 1: you know, we went we went through all the draft
Speaker 1: rankings there before, and I made a point to look
Speaker 1: at the difference between and mcshay's people and letter or
Speaker 1: number of grades on the difference in drop off between
Speaker 1: the running backs Number three, which which for him was
Speaker 1: was Williams, who had an eighty nine grade eight two.
Speaker 1: The next back, it was like twenty points. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you can see it. I mean, twenty points is huge
Speaker 1: in that like Xavin Collins be a wonderful thing to
Speaker 1: add to the team. But the difference between Collins grade
Speaker 1: and the number of eight or nine, it was like
Speaker 1: ten points. No, I hear you, like in a nutshell,
Speaker 1: especially if I'm not grading for the Steelers, I'd probably
Speaker 1: have a higher grade on Zaven Collins than Javante Williams.
Speaker 1: But that's not how it works, right, That doesn't make
Speaker 1: you a better team. Yeah, need their need, no matter
Speaker 1: what people think when they said, well, it's just draft
Speaker 1: the best player available, the best player available was always
Speaker 1: based on need, always always right that nobody's because nobody's well,
Speaker 1: we can't passing this quarterback even though we have three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on our roster, you know, Or then when we
Speaker 1: just drafted last year in the second round, there's something
Speaker 1: you know, No, you're not taking the quarterback, Like when
Speaker 1: five years ago or whatever, when the Steelers had Heath
Speaker 1: Miller and Pouncy in their prime, taking a tight end
Speaker 1: or a center if they're for years. When when Kevin
Speaker 1: Colbert would step into the pre draft room, well, we're
Speaker 1: probably looking at any position except for quarterback because they're
Speaker 1: not taking a first round quarterback. They have a first
Speaker 1: round quarterback who's in his prime. You're not taking the
Speaker 1: first rounder either, you know, right we everyone knows what
Speaker 1: you're not taking right now. The more you shake it out,
Speaker 1: like Jamie Davis probably won't be there, Like the Steelers
Speaker 1: aren't taking Travon Mowrig in the first round. They've got
Speaker 1: two first round safeties in their lineup. And just how
Speaker 1: the team is right now and how good the defense
Speaker 1: is to where the offense is. I don't know that
Speaker 1: you can afford a third round back that touches the
Speaker 1: ball as opposed to a third round linebacker, a third
Speaker 1: round linebacker. This this this team could easily. When Kevin
Speaker 1: Colbert and Mike tom when we're asked about the specifically
Speaker 1: asked about the linebacker position in this draft, they're like, well,
Speaker 1: this is really deep linebacker draft. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: them like this. This is you know where we took uh,
Speaker 1: you know five years ago where you took Ryan Chase
Speaker 1: here in the first surround because he was he was
Speaker 1: the unicorn, and even trading up for Bush, that's not
Speaker 1: the case anymore. There's there's fifteen of those unicorns in
Speaker 1: this draft. That's that's the norm now on college football,
Speaker 1: So you can you can get these guys. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: supply has changed dramatically. Playing in space. Everyone realizes speeds
Speaker 1: the linebackers number one attribute, you know now, I hear you.
Speaker 1: I mean again, that just makes it Who do you
Speaker 1: take at twenty four if you couldn't have traded down
Speaker 1: in the end, are you comfortable turning in the card
Speaker 1: for Juvante Williams? I would Harris off the board, a
Speaker 1: t n availables they even available, Jenkins available. I think
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, I would. I just think it
Speaker 1: helps your team and I don't I don't care about
Speaker 1: all the analytics stuff. That's first of all, he's a
Speaker 1: twenty one year old running back to right, right, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get six or seven years out of him. I mean,
Speaker 1: you would hope he gets three touches a year for
Speaker 1: the next five six years. Yeah, you know that has value.
Speaker 1: That has a lot of value, right right, right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But as you break in a new quarterback new Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. For our final up draft. Um,
Speaker 1: we settled on Javonte Williams, who we took a lot
Speaker 1: in in the early process. If you didn't take him
Speaker 1: as much in the middle process. We come back around, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the way back around. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: The next drive is Monday. Yes, we will not be
Speaker 1: back until Monday because we'll be on the air, wall
Speaker 1: in the wall, yeah, the whole time. And don't forget that.
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. No, we can't mock draft anymore. We'll
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