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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Wally here with me Williamson and Matt It

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Speaker 1: is time for our final mock draft, last one. We've

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Speaker 1: done about fifty of these. We've taken you through all

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Speaker 1: the little variances and everything that could happen. How our

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Speaker 1: our minds have changed on guys over. I mean we've evolved.

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Speaker 1: We have evolved over the course of this draft. Early

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Speaker 1: on we would not have taken a running back in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Then we realized that there's only three

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Speaker 1: and if you don't take them in the first round,

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Speaker 1: you might get shut out. Uh. So that's the way

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Speaker 1: things of a volt here. We know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: we know the positions that are deep, we know the

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Speaker 1: ones that are thine set plan as all teams do

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Speaker 1: at this point, like, well, I can probably get a

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Speaker 1: linebacker here. I can probably get this here. And it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean it works that way. To change, you gotta

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Speaker 1: be able the ziggen zag as needed. Uh And for

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Speaker 1: our draft, that's what's going to have to happen here

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Speaker 1: because our pick is up at twenty four. Reason the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus macwock draft here and I went completely

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Speaker 1: public on this. I'm not using their rankings at all.

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Speaker 1: And the trades on this one. Yes, Nausea Harris is

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Speaker 1: not available. It's gone now, it's decision time. So the

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Speaker 1: top guys available Trayvon Murig no no, Rashad Bateman, Greg Green,

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Speaker 1: Newsom remember possibly Elijah Moore, No, Jason Noah, No, uh

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Speaker 1: Sante Samuel Azizolari, Tevin Jenkins, Dylan Raddin's um Zaven Collins, Collins,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Davis, uh Landon Dickerson is there. We have two

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Speaker 1: trade back offers here. Both other running backs are available though,

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Speaker 1: um yeah, A t n and Javante Williams are both available.

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Speaker 1: So our trade offers are to move back with the Packers.

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Speaker 1: That's a neighborhood I'd like to be and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go too far. I'm a little you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm trade back dude, but with one back off the board,

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Speaker 1: it's a little crazy. But we know that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have to Cleveland and Baltimore both have picks before. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a really good chance Baltimore trades back.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo is still behind us, Tampa. Tampa is still

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Speaker 1: behind us. Miami and the Jets have a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: If they want to come up for a back, they'll

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Speaker 1: already have two guys in the hopper. Jacksonville's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of m O. The Bills are the team, the

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Speaker 1: other team that wants to trade with us. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's Green Bay and Buffalo that's twenty nine and thirty.

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Speaker 1: Who's given us more other stuff? Well, let's see here

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Speaker 1: on the green Bay's trade up for back Buffalo might be.

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Speaker 1: So if we go twenty obviously, and we get sixty

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Speaker 1: two from Buffalo, it's a wonderful neighborhood dad and extra pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love that idea. Let's see if they

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Speaker 1: will do that. I am worried that AEN goes. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna toss into fifty four. And if a t N goes,

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Speaker 1: are fine, I'll take Javante Williams a twenty nine and

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Speaker 1: be really happy. I'd be fine with that too, as

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Speaker 1: long as all of a sudden he can offer the

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Speaker 1: trade and they declined they don't want to give up

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Speaker 1: sixty two. Okay, Well how about I thought they offered

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Speaker 1: that to us. No, we have to have they they're

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Speaker 1: on the phone what we'll take. What we'll take here. Um,

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Speaker 1: so sixty two needs to be involved. How about ninety two,

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Speaker 1: nine and ninety two and the future four? We can

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Speaker 1: try that in the first round. We're keeping it. I

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Speaker 1: threw in two fifty four. They're just because. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see if we can get Buffaloes fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: next year. I'm a green Bay. I'm sorry green Bay.

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Speaker 1: They didn't like that. Wow, how about next year's fifth then?

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Speaker 1: All right, that's about my best I can do for

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Speaker 1: you though that they accepted, So we gave up twenty

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Speaker 1: nine or we give up twenty four and two fifty four?

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Speaker 1: green Bay is lovely. Yeah, that's that fifth round pick

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Speaker 1: for next year. That's kind of the going rate for

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Speaker 1: word to quire. You want to trade for somebody, a

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Speaker 1: veteran guy during the season, that's the that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the monetary value that Now you can do that yet

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Speaker 1: an extra one all right, so you already you're gonna

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Speaker 1: The green Bay moved up to take moig good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Samuel caused me to the Saints. Okay, and we're on

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Speaker 1: the clock. We just gotta take Williams and be happy

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Speaker 1: about it. Go who and we've got an extra ninety

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Speaker 1: second pick, which is that area that we've wanted to

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Speaker 1: we're just moving. We said we got fifty seven two here,

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Speaker 1: at fifty five. We have no trade offers this time.

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Speaker 1: It's interestingly enough. That's fine. I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: want to make any more trades of this. I think

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Speaker 1: we don't make another deal, I'm cool with that. So

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Speaker 1: the top guys available, how about this one? Elijah Moore,

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Speaker 1: Wow Walker, Little Dylan Raddin's Elijah Molden, Jamon Davis. Davis

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Speaker 1: would be wonderful. Landon Dickerson, Okay, Uh, Jabriel Cox, I

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Speaker 1: think to stake David Richie Grant, Javon holland Quinn Miners.

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Speaker 1: I like both those centers a lot more is probably

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Speaker 1: take a second round. I don't think they've done that enough. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's just take a look and see who all is still.

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Speaker 1: So the top three centers are all still available, as

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Speaker 1: is Kendrick Green. I'm thinking Jamie Davis, I think you

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Speaker 1: you you, thank you, you're lucky stars. If that happens

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Speaker 1: that you know you got thirty picks between now and

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Speaker 1: eighty seven. There's four centers still, actually five if you

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's the pick. Yeah alright, Harpe. Yeah, we're cruising

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Speaker 1: clock here and we're back up again. Matt Matt, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Top guys available. Elijah Molden. Wow, you would be nice

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Speaker 1: Darius Washington, Kelvin Joseph, Kendrick Green. So the centers have gone,

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Speaker 1: the three yere gone, the top three are gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um man, I wish we did more on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: but I've done a moment. We've got another pick coming

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Speaker 1: up at ninety two. Yeah, so we got eighty seven

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Speaker 1: and ninety two here. Let me run this strategy by Okay.

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Speaker 1: I've done this once or twice with Max late Lead

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Speaker 1: the same similar case where if we take Molden here,

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Speaker 1: I think you draft like three offensive linemen. I think

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Speaker 1: and he fits in need. I mean, your your defense

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean I'm taking maybe two tackles in

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Speaker 1: the center here. Yeah, I mean I know that doesn't

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Speaker 1: at ninety two here again, so if we get we

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Speaker 1: take Elijah Molden here. One are the chances that Kendrick

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Speaker 1: Molden because he's the besition he should be. He should

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Speaker 1: You take now, I think we have to change our

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Speaker 1: strategy that we don't necessarily. I don't know we could

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Speaker 1: afford to take our highest graded player again. Well, we

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Speaker 1: and we'll have slot corner. So I'm drafting line like

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Speaker 1: crazy now, and with the strategy of I want an

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Speaker 1: offensive line that doesn't stink. You know that. That's a

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Speaker 1: logical way of looking at it nowadays is just don't

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Speaker 1: be horrible on the offensive line. Don't have huge holes.

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Speaker 1: So if we bring in three rookies and only one

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Speaker 1: look where you got dots in last year? Yeah, fourth round,

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Speaker 1: and that's the kind of guy that I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: But I want to bring in three of them, alright,

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Speaker 1: So Molden is an easy pick here. Yeah, just like

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Speaker 1: take give you gifts, you take them. So the picts

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Speaker 1: right after that, Chess s Ratt, Pete Werner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's great for us because you have a linebacker, but

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Speaker 1: it's a nice neighborhood to have picked those guys, if

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Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland, Marvin Wilson. So if we would have passed

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Speaker 1: could have taken one of the centers. I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman. Yes, so you got Kendrick Green,

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Speaker 1: you got Drew Dolman, you got Josh Meyers. Uh is

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Speaker 1: the center guys, Jack Anderson Cola. I think Doman's a

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Speaker 1: really good prospect. I'm not sure he's the Steelers. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's moving. I mean he's I

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Speaker 1: Guy Brady Christensen is still available. Stone Horsyth is still available, horses,

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Speaker 1: might be a center. But is Roville by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, and then he went to the

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Speaker 1: i MG Academy. Jante Brown, David Moore, James Hudson, Brendan James,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Brown. I think you'd take the best center available here.

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Speaker 1: There are tackles available that you might be able to

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Speaker 1: get their centers. I like too. I like Kendrick Green

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think he's scream stealer hopefully. Spencer Brown

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Speaker 1: to me is interesting. He is, and maybe we can

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Speaker 1: Now we now we take a look at the offensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: They weren't touched. Um well, I'm sorry I'm wrong about that,

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Speaker 1: because uh, Spencer Brown was taking two picks ahead of

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Speaker 1: our pick. He was the one that kind of stood out.

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Speaker 1: Is project stealer Upside? Christiansen is still available, Okay, Stone

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Speaker 1: Foresight still available. I prefer Forsyth to the Steelers. Robert

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Speaker 1: Haines he still available. I think Haynes he's an inside guy.

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Speaker 1: Deante Smith still available, Jay Len Moore available, Uh, Tommy

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Speaker 1: Josh Ball still available, and he's probably more of a

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Speaker 1: Forsyth here, I think you don't have to take a

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Speaker 1: bunch of offensive one because you know, I think you

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Speaker 1: got two on your list. Yeah, foreslightly, we might pick two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably taking Christensen, right. I agree. I think Foresight,

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Speaker 1: but that that that depends on Okay, what are you

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Speaker 1: we're asking him to do. Umkon's the pick. Yeah, Coon's

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Speaker 1: Although Molten can play some safety for you know, need be.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good player again. Another bigger slot, Bobby

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Speaker 1: have to read him. Derek Barnes is still available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You can play him inside, you can play him outside.

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Speaker 1: mean put it this way, if if Coon's in Barnes

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Speaker 1: got you. Uh, David Moore at two forty five is

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Speaker 1: an A minus, just a good value hit. So we

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Speaker 1: ended up with I mean, I think they even more

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Speaker 1: at that pick, even if the Steelers second and third

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Speaker 1: round picks were the offensive line. Yeah, we've got three a's,

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Speaker 1: which we never get. Yeah, they're hard graders to overall

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Speaker 1: our B plus. We got a B plus, probably the

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Speaker 1: best grade we've ever got from that site. I think.

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Speaker 1: So trading downs great. If we wouldn't have traded down,

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Speaker 1: do you think we would have taken Williams. I'm start

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Speaker 1: to lean towards Williams over a t N. I kind

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Speaker 1: of I'm like I did from the beginning. I'm like

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Speaker 1: Williams better the whole time. Um, but I can see

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Speaker 1: a t N going ahead him, So I think he

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Speaker 1: will go creeps into your thinking when you're looking at that.

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Speaker 1: But I would rather have Williams if i'm picking, and

431
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Speaker 1: think he's so much more physical. Yeah, I think, I

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Speaker 1: mean a t N is a little straight line ish

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Speaker 1: to me. I think he's got a lot of potential

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Speaker 1: as a receiver Williams. Williams is not just good in protection,

435
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Speaker 1: he's great. He kills people in protection and Naja. Harris

436
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Speaker 1: has a little work to do, to say the least,

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Speaker 1: but he's got the body type two nd um. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these guys can learn it. I mean a lot of

439
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Speaker 1: these guys don't get asked to do it because probably

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Speaker 1: we can have one of the best weapons on the

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Speaker 1: field past blocking. But but you can tell what Williams

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Speaker 1: went to when Williams went to North Carolina went there

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Speaker 1: as a as a linebacker. That physicality comes out a

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Speaker 1: running style and his passport thing about him supposedly an

445
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Speaker 1: awesome kid and unbelievably hard worker. I think it'd be

446
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Speaker 1: a great fit here. I think he screams Steelers. He does.

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Speaker 1: Harris does as well. I think, yeah, I'm not discounting,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking bad about a t N or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. But but if it was no trade offers,

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Speaker 1: we're sitting there at twenty four. I think I take

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Speaker 1: Williams over a t N. And I've been going back

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Speaker 1: and forth and not for a month, but you had

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins available, there's the question, Yeah, and then do

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Speaker 1: you take the what do you value? And if we

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Speaker 1: had taken Savin Collins there, we obviously aren't taking Jaman Day.

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Speaker 1: We are getting running We're getting j Secon. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: not getting a running back there. I could probably end

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Speaker 1: up with a sermon in the third because you're running

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Speaker 1: backs went uh. As we mentioned, Harris went at twenty two,

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Speaker 1: a t N at five, and then we went to

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Speaker 1: Javante Williams at twenty nine. And as you said, you've

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Speaker 1: you've heard from multiple people that Tampa Bay loves Williams.

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Speaker 1: That's the that's the rumor I keep hearing from a

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Speaker 1: pretty good source. Actually, um so, would you rather have

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Speaker 1: your first this this mark aside? Would you rather have

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Speaker 1: Zavin Minerts sermon or Williams mine rts Werner. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: William Myers Warner. I think the drop off between that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that drops off to me between

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Speaker 1: you know, we went we went through all the draft

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Speaker 1: rankings there before, and I made a point to look

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Speaker 1: at the difference between and mcshay's people and letter or

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Speaker 1: number of grades on the difference in drop off between

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Speaker 1: the running backs Number three, which which for him was

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Speaker 1: was Williams, who had an eighty nine grade eight two.

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Speaker 1: The next back, it was like twenty points. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you can see it. I mean, twenty points is huge

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Speaker 1: in that like Xavin Collins be a wonderful thing to

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Speaker 1: add to the team. But the difference between Collins grade

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Speaker 1: and the number of eight or nine, it was like

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Speaker 1: ten points. No, I hear you, like in a nutshell,

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Speaker 1: especially if I'm not grading for the Steelers, I'd probably

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Speaker 1: have a higher grade on Zaven Collins than Javante Williams.

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Speaker 1: But that's not how it works, right, That doesn't make

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Speaker 1: you a better team. Yeah, need their need, no matter

485
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Speaker 1: what people think when they said, well, it's just draft

486
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: the best player available, the best player available was always

487
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Speaker 1: based on need, always always right that nobody's because nobody's well,

488
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Speaker 1: we can't passing this quarterback even though we have three

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on our roster, you know, Or then when we

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Speaker 1: just drafted last year in the second round, there's something

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Speaker 1: you know, No, you're not taking the quarterback, Like when

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Speaker 1: five years ago or whatever, when the Steelers had Heath

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Speaker 1: Miller and Pouncy in their prime, taking a tight end

494
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Speaker 1: or a center if they're for years. When when Kevin

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Speaker 1: Colbert would step into the pre draft room, well, we're

496
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Speaker 1: probably looking at any position except for quarterback because they're

497
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Speaker 1: not taking a first round quarterback. They have a first

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Speaker 1: round quarterback who's in his prime. You're not taking the

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Speaker 1: first rounder either, you know, right we everyone knows what

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Speaker 1: you're not taking right now. The more you shake it out,

501
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: like Jamie Davis probably won't be there, Like the Steelers

502
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Speaker 1: aren't taking Travon Mowrig in the first round. They've got

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Speaker 1: two first round safeties in their lineup. And just how

504
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Speaker 1: the team is right now and how good the defense

505
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Speaker 1: is to where the offense is. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: you can afford a third round back that touches the

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Speaker 1: ball as opposed to a third round linebacker, a third

508
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Speaker 1: round linebacker. This this this team could easily. When Kevin

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Speaker 1: Colbert and Mike tom when we're asked about the specifically

510
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: asked about the linebacker position in this draft, they're like, well,

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Speaker 1: this is really deep linebacker draft. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: them like this. This is you know where we took uh,

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Speaker 1: you know five years ago where you took Ryan Chase

514
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Speaker 1: here in the first surround because he was he was

515
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Speaker 1: the unicorn, and even trading up for Bush, that's not

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Speaker 1: the case anymore. There's there's fifteen of those unicorns in

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Speaker 1: this draft. That's that's the norm now on college football,

518
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: So you can you can get these guys. Yeah, that

519
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: supply has changed dramatically. Playing in space. Everyone realizes speeds

520
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: the linebackers number one attribute, you know now, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, that just makes it Who do you

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Speaker 1: take at twenty four if you couldn't have traded down

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Speaker 1: in the end, are you comfortable turning in the card

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Speaker 1: for Juvante Williams? I would Harris off the board, a

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Speaker 1: t n availables they even available, Jenkins available. I think

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Speaker 1: the answer is yes, I would. I just think it

527
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Speaker 1: helps your team and I don't I don't care about

528
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: all the analytics stuff. That's first of all, he's a

529
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Speaker 1: twenty one year old running back to right, right, you're

530
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Speaker 1: gonna get six or seven years out of him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you would hope he gets three touches a year for

532
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Speaker 1: the next five six years. Yeah, you know that has value.

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Speaker 1: That has a lot of value, right right, right, absolutely,

534
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Speaker 1: But as you break in a new quarterback new Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. For our final up draft. Um,

536
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: we settled on Javonte Williams, who we took a lot

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Speaker 1: in in the early process. If you didn't take him

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Speaker 1: as much in the middle process. We come back around, Yeah,

539
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: all the way back around. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: The next drive is Monday. Yes, we will not be

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Speaker 1: back until Monday because we'll be on the air, wall

542
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Speaker 1: in the wall, yeah, the whole time. And don't forget that.

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Speaker 1: Tonight we'll have a simulcast show on d V as

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Speaker 1: well with Mike Pursudo that will also be available here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. You can hear all the coverage

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Speaker 1: of the draft on Steelers Nation Radio on the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Media. Uh, you listen to us on w b

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Speaker 1: g G, all that good stuff. Matt and I will

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Speaker 1: be there pretty much constant, at least one of us.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm scheduled except for all the two segments,

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Speaker 1: So maybe you can sneak off and write and do

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Speaker 1: your other job. I do have a real job that

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Speaker 1: I do have to do. But so but for Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: for Jacob Breck here on site, keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Loally. We appreciate you listening to all of

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Speaker 1: our draft coverage here. We've enjoyed. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. No, we can't mock draft anymore. We'll

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Speaker 1: get back into some fantasy stuff. Yeah, we'll find something here, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But it's been a lot of fun digging into this draft,

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Speaker 1: and we will do so more over the next few days.

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