1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: What is up? 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: Straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Thursday, 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: August the eighth, and oh boy, do I have a 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: story for you. This Brandon Auk nonsense continues to dominate 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: the headlines of the NFL. But before we get to 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: the malcontent, yeah, I can go there. A couple quick 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: thoughts on Major League Baseball, which is kind of sort 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: of heating up. Maybe I'm all excited because I went 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: to a Dodgers game this week and it was it 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: was fun. But you look around the AL and the 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: wildcard race is tight. You've got the Astros lurking three 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 3: and a half back. We got what like, I don't know, 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: like fifty forty ish games left. Astros are lurking, but 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: so of the Red Sox. Yankees are in the wildcard 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: because Baltimore's tae overtaking them. Twins Royals, like the AL 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 3: is interesting. The NLS bananas, the Padres are absolutely on fire, 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: Braves slumping. The Mets are only one back folks for 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: the NL wildcard race. And I know I don't talk 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: a ton of baseball in here, but I'm counting one 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: two three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine teams within 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: five and a half games of the final wildcard spot. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you peel off ten straight. If the White 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Sox can lose twenty one in a row, I can't 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: one of these teams win ten in row. And it 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: gets really interesting. Yeah, the Mets are in there. I 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: know I bashed the Mets a lot, but they are 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: still in the mix for a wildcard spot. It's just 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: a National league. American League Baseball is gonna be fun 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: here leading into September and October, obviously the October Classic. 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: But we got to start the podcast with this, Brandon 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Aiyuk just, I mean, it just won't stop. And here's 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: the weird part. It almost feels as if the forty 34 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: nine are trying to control the narrative. And I thought 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: they were doing a good job of it. But if 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: you noticed the big guns who get all their stuff 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: fed to them from teams and agents, and that's Wrapaport 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: and Shifter, they're not leading the charge on this. This 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: is this feels like it's growing on social media, if 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: you will. And I'm gonna go ahead and guess that 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk is being so transparent with the stuff he's 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: putting on TikTok and Instagram stories and Twitter that people 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: are reading tea leaves and seeing, oh, well, he's following 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: this and he wants to go there, and he's got 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: this connection. And it's almost as if the people are 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: driving this story, because, folks, I'm just telling you, as 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: recently as two weeks ago, everybody who covers the NFL, 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: anybody who I've talked to on this podcast, any gambler, 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: everybody thought Ayuk was staying and this was just him 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: acting tough, get me out of here. I need money, 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: and Okay, that's good, we understand, and you're still in 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: a contract. So show up and kind of kindly be 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: quiet and be great, and then you make a lot 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: of money after this season. Right, that was what everybody thought. 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: And then you see, you know, this Dj Moore deal 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: go down where he got Let me see what Dj 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: Moore got. I think he got four four for one 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: hundred or four for one to ten with like eighty 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: million guaranteed. Awesome numbers, Folks. I'm telling you, the margin 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: between Dj Moore and Brandon Nyuk is not that significant. 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: And I know i Uk first team All Pro. He's 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: in the Kyle Shanahan system. If we can knock and 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't, But if you can knock brock Purty for 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: being in the Kyle Shanahan system, what would he be 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: without Kyle Shanahan and Simac and Debo and Kittle and 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Why doesn't the same hold true for 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk. Well, he's getting schemed open by the best 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: play caller. I mean, listen, if you want to go 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: McVeigh fine, one of the best play callers we've seen 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: in the last decade in the NFL, Like it's weird. 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, very good with Carolina, one of the best 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: backs I've seen this century with the Niners. Brock Purty 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: seventh round pick, and all of a sudden he's an 74 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: MVP candidate with Kyle Shanahan. Why doesn't the same hold 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: true for Brandon Ayuk. I don't have an answer. Nobody 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: wants to put put down Ayuk, and I'm not trying 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: to put him down. I'm just saying, like, he's not Jefferson, 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: he's not Chase, he's not Tyreek. I think that the 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: DJ Moore contract is more than reasonable for Ayuk. Again, 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: we're going bonkers off of one season, and yeah he 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: was great. Yes he's fast and twitchy, and he made 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: a huge catch against the Lions, a extremely memorable catch. 83 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: But why should the forty nine ers kowtow to a 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: guy who is, yeah, really good and could probably fetch 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: you a first round pick or a good player and 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: a first Why should the forty nine ers roll over 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: and put themselves in a bad cap space when they've 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: got this long runway and a hugely talented roster. None 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: of it makes sense. And so at this point it 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: almost feels like they're saying, go ahead, test the market. 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: You want to see what's out there, Go get it, go, 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: get go, stack your paper, buddy, And Brandon ayuk Is 93 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: is kicking the tires, and you know the Patriots are 94 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: needy and desperate, so that's the first place he wants 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: to go just to get leverage. He doesn't want to 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: go there, obviously, And then of course the Patriots had 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: to back out because they I guess they got a 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: whiff that ayuk was just playing them for leveraging. 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 100 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: listen live. 103 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: By all accounts, the Pittsburgh Steelers are where he wants 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: to be. I have not seen or read what the 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: big connection is with Ayuk and Pittsburgh. I mean, you know, 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 3: we're talking about a guy who is everything I've seen. 107 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: He's been West of the Rockies for his entire life. 108 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: California kid, Arizona State. I think he went to UH 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: High schoo in Nevada and then he goes to the Niners. 110 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: So what is this connection to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I 111 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe his dad was a forty nine Er fan, 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: sorry Steelers fan when he was growing up. Like, I 113 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: don't know, something it doesn't add up. Maybe he wants 114 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: to play for Tomlin, who is, you know, a pretty 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: big players coach. Although we've seen several wide receivers under Tomlin, 116 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: pop instantly becomes stars and then it went to their 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: head and they went off the rails like that's happened 118 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: to a lot of skill position players. Leveon Bell, remember 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: Leveon Bell is a guy who said just I'll just 120 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: sit out the season until I get what I want. 121 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: And then he came back and he was looking kind 122 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: of sort of washed, and then it was over quickly, 123 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: and now he's like boxing people and Antonio Brown, who 124 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: was trying to go on what was it was it 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: Instagram Live, Twitter live whatever was after big games and 126 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: like talking all this track. I mean, he was just 127 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: out of control. And then they finally cut bait with him. 128 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a couple other guys they had 129 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: there that were talented, and I guess you have seen 130 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: that and says, oh ye, I could be me. I 131 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: can do me there without all the restrictions. I was like, Okay, 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: maybe that's it. I mean, they remember they had Deontay Johnson. 133 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: They let him go. He's now in Carolina. They moved 134 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: off of him, and they've got Pickens. Listen, Pickens came 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: with some baggage out of college. Immensely talented player, but 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: there was some baggage. So there was some risk with Pickens. 137 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: That's why he dropped a bit in the draft. If 138 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: you remember, this is a guy who had been pegged 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: for greatness for a while at whether it was in 140 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: high school. Yeah, he went to Hoover High School and 141 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: then so he was in Alabama, one of the superstars, 142 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: five star recruit. He was gonna go to Auburn and 143 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: then he goes to Georgia a little attitude issues. Then 144 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: he had the ACL injury. It was awful. Did come 145 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: back from the ACL and play and then declared for 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: the pros. I mean this is guy who had Pickens 147 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: had like ninety catches in his career, right second round 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: pick Why, Well, you know there's some questions about off 149 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: the field. Now the talent is there, the length, the speed, 150 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: the hike, the jumping ability, Like Pickens has it all, 151 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: but he fell a little bit. It's his show. Now 152 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: you don't think he's excited about that. What do you 153 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: think he's gonna think when Brandon Ayuk comes in? Make 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: it all of the money and Brandon and Yuke is 155 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: making all the money if he gets his contract, Like, 156 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: how's that gonna go over? How's he gonna like? Russell Wilson, 157 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: who I don't know. I mean, Russ was a great 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: deep all thrower in Seattle before the too high shell 159 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: became a thing and it basically neotered Russ. Hey, we're 160 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: gonna keep the safeties high. Go ahead, run the football. 161 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: You're not beating us for sixty seventy year touchdowns to 162 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: DK Metcalf and lock it. We're not We're just not 163 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: allowing that, and he has never really solved that. And 164 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: then the other option is justin fields who we know 165 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: his accuracy has been an issue. I don't know, is 166 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 3: that you going to go there and pout. But here's 167 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: the thing. The phil the Pittsburgh media radio guys are 168 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: out there saying, oh, it's a formality, it's a done deal. 169 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: They're signing the paperwork. But then still nothing from Schefter 170 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: and Rappaport. And I'm not saying they're the end all 171 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: be all, but they get more handouts than some radio 172 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: host in Pittsburgh. And it sounds like and again just 173 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: sounds like UK is trying to try to use the Patriots' 174 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 3: leverage and now he's trying to use the Browns of leverage. 175 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to go to either of those so 176 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: he can get paid by Pittsburgh. But it's weird. I mean, 177 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: it's such a transparent move. If I can tell you 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: about it, you sure as hell know that the Steelers 179 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: know this, and everybody, everybody in Pittsburgh has to be 180 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: aware of what's going on. Now. The one bonus that 181 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: they have is they're not paying a quarterback, right Russell 182 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: Wilson I might be on the minimum because he all 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: that dead money that the Bronco's oh and fields is 184 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: on the cheap. Naje Harris. I don't think they're gonna 185 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: break the bank for him. Pickens entering year four, like, 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: they're not really paying anybody except defensive players. So yeah, 187 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: you can splur if you want for Ayuk. I think 188 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: you just got to be careful what you wish for, 189 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: don't you. And then at the same time, like I 190 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: keep hearing there's a framework for a trade, but still like, 191 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: what's Pittsburgh giving up? And somebody said that who's there? 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: Let me look this up the there was a receiver 193 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: on the Steelers that they were like, oh no, it 194 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 3: was the Patriots. They were like, oh yeah, Kendrick Bourne 195 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: was such a Kendrick Born. I'm like, you you think 196 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: the Niners on freakin' Kendrick Bourne. I don't even know 197 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: if he's a top four receiver on the Niners if 198 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: he were to go there. But yo, you look up 199 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: and down the Pittsburgh depth chart and you're like, Okay, 200 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: they're receivers after Pickens are Quez Watkins Calvin Austin, third, 201 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: Van Jefferson. I mean, you could no disrespect to this guys. 202 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: You can find that caliber player on like the waiver wire, 203 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: or you could on a practice squad. They got major 204 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: depth on the Niners. So when I was on Cowherd 205 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: on Thursday here or sorry, Wednesday, he floated the idea, 206 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: why wouldn't you go out and get fortified the offensive line? 207 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, well, they're not moving off Broderick Jones, 208 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 3: who they drafted in the first round from Georgia, and 209 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: it is so far as a right tackle. I doubt 210 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: they're moving off the kid Foutanu from Washington, the offensive 211 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: lineman who looks like he's going to start the year 212 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: as a backup at left tackle. What they're going to 213 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: move off those guys? That doesn't make sense. And I 214 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: don't know how offensive line depth at this point helps you, Like, yes, 215 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: it's nice to have, but you know what is better 216 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: to nice to have a wide receiver who is an 217 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: All Pro talent and average seventeen point nine yards per catch. 218 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: It just moving off of him just seems crazy to me. 219 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: I cannot imagine that he's dumb enough to sit out 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: the season, like that would be silly, but as you 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: guys know, some of it is. It's like a pride thing. 222 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: Hey man, these guys don't want me. They don't want 223 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: to show me the love. I would rather sit out 224 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 3: than play for peanuts. And I mean it's the weird 225 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: part is a Yuk didn't turn this team into the 226 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: Juggernaut super Bowl team. Like, he's a really nice piece 227 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: on the team, but let's be real, he's more replaceable 228 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: than Deebo. Samuel Deebo does so many things. Great blocker, 229 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: great in the backfield. You can line him up in 230 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: the slot, you can line him up outside. He can 231 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he can win in coverage against linebacker safeties. 232 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: I just I don't see the weakness in Deebo's game 233 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: outside of the potential injury history because he plays so 234 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: damn hard and takes so many hits. Are Yuk. Yeah, 235 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: he's an awesome player, but I'm just telling you, like, look, 236 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if the numbers tell the full story, 237 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: but the distance between Dj Moore and Brandon Ayuk is 238 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: not like eight million dollars a year. It's like one 239 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: or two maybe, And Dj Moore go look at the 240 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: quarterbacks he played within Charlotte, sorry Carolina, and now he's 241 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: in Chicago. I mean, if Caleb Williams is as good 242 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: as everybody thinks, like, that's the best quarterback DJ Moore 243 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: has ever had, right, I mean Dj Moore has just 244 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: been mired with old guys backups, young guys. No, not 245 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: one of like the elite. You know what do they 246 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: call it in the stock market, there's like the fang 247 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: stocks or the souper Magnificent seven, whatever it is. There's 248 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: some saying for like the seven stocks that have been 249 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: carrying the stock market, right, you know what they are? Facebook, Apple, Google, 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: and a few others or met I should say, now Facebook. Well, 251 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: that's the same way there are with quarterbacks in the NFL. 252 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: There's about twelve really really good ones, maybe fifteen, and 253 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: then after that it's a hodgepodge of you know, like 254 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: the Gardner Minshews of the world. Nothing wrong with him, 255 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: he can we can win you some games as a backup, 256 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: be solid. I'll toss Baker Mayfield in there. Obviously a 257 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: better version of about Gardner Minshew. Whoever starts for the Broncos, 258 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: whether it's Stidham, Nick Zack Wilson, they're in that not 259 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: elite category and you go down the list and it's like, Wow, 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: Dj Moore, if killib Williams is good, there's a world 261 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: where the Bears really pop. Like I think they're a 262 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: wildcard team. I don't have them in right now, but 263 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: I think that obviously the potential is there. And you 264 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: just look around and you're like, man, he's had some 265 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: weird quarterbacks and Brandon Ayuk, don't tell me that brock 266 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: Perty's week, not when he was like third runner up 267 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: for MVP. I'm sorry, Like that's how good party was 268 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: last year. You guys can dismiss it all you want. 269 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick to my original and not waiver And 270 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: I say Brandon and Ayuk will end up staying in 271 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: San Francisco despite all this hullabaloo, hullabluo. What a great 272 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: underrated word. And I guess we'll be talking a lot 273 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: about Brandon and Nyuk next week. Oh quick podcast note 274 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: before we move on to the other NFL story, No 275 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: pod on Monday again. Yes, I'm trying to take a 276 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: couple days here and there to do fun stuff leading 277 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: up to the NFL season and so no pop Pot 278 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: will be back Tuesday. Recapping what I expect to be 279 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: the US winning a gold medal in men's basketball. 280 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 281 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 282 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 283 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: listen live. 284 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to another issue between an 285 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: NFC team and a star, and that's Jalen Hurts versus 286 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: Yes versus Nick Sirianni. Somewhat explosive report from ESPN on 287 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: Wednesday claims that they have a fractured relationship and the 288 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: hope is that Kellen Moore, Yes, Kellen Moore, who's been 289 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: on what three teams in four years, can mend the fences. 290 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: Rob This is ugly stuff. I mean, we're talking, you know, 291 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: ego on the part of its appears Sirianni and Hurts 292 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: not wanting to work with him. I don't know. My 293 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: overview of how the hell this happened. It's I don't 294 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: think this is rocket science. My read is Year one 295 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: where Hurts exploded was was Shane Stike in calling the place, Well, 296 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: the Eagles offense explodes, Oh my gosh, they're amazing. They 297 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: go to the Super Bowl. Shane Steiken is the hero. 298 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni doesn't get all the props. Shane Stiken instantly 299 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: gets a job, interview and a head coaching job off 300 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: that season, and everyone is like, oh, Shane Steiken, this 301 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: guy's the next offensive wizard. Well, Egos start out ten 302 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: to one even though they hired as the new OC. 303 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts his buddy, well, not his buddy, but someone 304 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: who he's known for a long time, his dad coached 305 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: him way back when in high school in Texas, and 306 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, this is gonna be a perfect marriage. 307 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurt gets his guy, someone he knows. But my 308 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: read is once that move happened, I think Sirianni felt like, 309 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: hey man, how come people aren't giving me the shine? 310 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: I know offense too, It's not just Shane Steiken, and 311 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Sirianni started to pull Hurts aside, according to this article 312 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: on ESPN, and suggest stuff away from the OC, And 313 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: obviously Jalen Hurts is gonna be like what is that 314 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: all about? And the OC's gonna be like, what are 315 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: you doing bro? This I'm trying to think of an analogy, 316 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 3: rob This would be the equivalent. You guys know, I 317 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: own a soccer team in Mexico. I'm a minority owner. 318 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: I love soccer. I grew up playing soccer. I coach 319 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: my daughter and I've coached my son in soccer. I'm 320 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: a big fan. When it comes to this podcast, I 321 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: all of a sudden can't pretend like I'm an expert 322 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: on the EPL. I can't come in and tell you 323 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: why I think and insert hot take here. I will 324 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: get fifty responses, what are you talking about? You don't 325 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: know the EPL. And here's the thing I do know soccer. 326 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: I like to think I know business, the inside runnings 327 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: of how things are going at Nakosa, and we're also 328 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: minority owners of a basketball team in New Zealand. Like 329 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: I feel like on the business side, I can talk intelligently, 330 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 3: but I can't come on a podcast and ran for 331 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: twenty minutes about the EPL. I just don't have the 332 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: depth of knowledge. My areas of expertise are basketball and 333 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 3: football primarily. That's what I spend my most time on Gamble, 334 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: on read up out watch, That's where my focus is. 335 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: And I feel like Sirianni kind of stepped out of 336 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: his depth here, Rob and was just like oh, well, 337 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: you know offense, I got this, you know, Jalen Hurts 338 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: MVP candidate, and Shane Stiken gets a job. Hey, hey, 339 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: what about me over here? Guys? And apparently it got 340 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: so bad for Sirianni that he opened this off season 341 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: by addressing the team and taking responsibility for screwing up 342 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: last year. Now, listen, it takes a big person to 343 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: admit I screwed up on this level in front of 344 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: the entire team, and admitting it is the first step 345 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: to not sobriety, but you know, redemption and maybe Siriannis 346 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: seeing the light. But this is a big red flag 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: because a lot of people Robert off the Jalen Hurts bandwagon. 348 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: Remember this time last year, he was a top six 349 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: quarterback after that super Bowl performance, and now it's like 350 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: he's It's like, oh, CJ. Stroutz better, Like are we sure? So? 351 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm team Hurts in this. I'm not 352 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: anti Sirianni. I definitely some warning signs that you don't like. 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: But I don't know, Robie, it feels like Philly I 354 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: liked him a lot. We've talked with two guys here 355 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: Ta and I believe Adam Chernoff, who both on this 356 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: podcast hiked the Eagles. I'm all in. I think Eagles 357 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: are Super Bowl contender in the NFC, best or second 358 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: best right there with the Niners. So this feels like 359 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: a big moment for the Eagles. You're going forward. 360 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with everything you said about Nick Sirihanni. 361 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: I definitely think ego came into effect there before the 362 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: start of last season. Where I disagree with you, though, 363 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: is that it's mostly Sirianni. I think both parties, Sirianni 364 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 4: and Hurts share equal blame for this one, because again, 365 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: everything you said about Sirianni is accurate. He wanted to 366 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: have his fingerprints on the team. He started inserting himself 367 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: into meetings, started inserting himself into having one on one 368 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: meetings with Jalen Hurts, something that, according to the report, 369 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: had never happened before last season. However, it also notes 370 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: in the article that Jalen Hurts, when they brought in 371 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 4: his longtime friend as their new OC, Brian Johnson, wanted 372 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: greater authority of the offense, and Siriani was like, hey man, 373 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: what we have works. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. 374 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 4: Let's do what we do, and Jalen Hurts was not 375 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 4: down with that. Brian Johnson was not down with that, 376 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: and it got to a point where, according to one player, 377 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts was trying to play hero ball. He was 378 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: trying to show everybody that he was worth a two 379 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollar contract he had just gotten, 380 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: and with his insistence on showing off his talent level, 381 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 4: he actually ended up revealing some of his own limitations. 382 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 4: Because you recall he threw the most interceptions in the 383 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: NFL against the Blitz last season eight, his touchdown percentage 384 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 4: went way down. He was actually last in the league 385 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: amongst starters two point seven percent, and it all culminated 386 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: in that Week eighteen disaster against the Giants. He went 387 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: five of eleven for forty one yards against the Blitz 388 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: with a pick season low QBR five point three, where 389 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: he was so bad according to the article, he actually 390 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: reached out to win Martindale after the season, before the 391 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: playoff game and say, hey, what did you guys see 392 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: and what made you attack me the way that you did? 393 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: So sirianni Yes obviously felt some kind of way about 394 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: Styke and leaving that he wanted to show his value 395 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 4: to the organization, value to the team. Like you said 396 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: the show, he knows offense just as well as Styken. 397 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: But I think Jalen Hurts also getting that contract off 398 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: for basically one good season, which is something that Philadelphia 399 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 4: has been known to do right or wrongly to like 400 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: to pay their guys earlier rather than later. Jalen Hurts decided, Hey, 401 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: now that I'm getting paid like Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes, 402 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you that I play the quarterback position 403 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: like Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes and that's just not his. 404 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: Game right now. 405 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: See that's a good point. I think the counter would be, 406 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: if he's asking for more responsibility, you could say, hey, guys, 407 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: look at the season we had. Look at the growth 408 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: I made from the playoff loss two years ago to 409 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: Tampa where they couldn't move the football. That was I'm 410 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 3: pretty sure that Tom Brady Tampa team. But anyways, they 411 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: got smoked in the first round. I think it was 412 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: thirty or nothing, and there was a lot of calling 413 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: for bench Hurts. For Gardner Minshew, I may have said 414 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: something like that so Sodia, I don't remember exactly, but 415 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: he then makes the huge leap under stike In, and 416 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, we've adjusted. The league is going to 417 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: adjust to what we're doing, clearly because they were doing 418 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: some pretty radical stuff with Stikeen, and that offense is 419 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: I think number one or number two. 420 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: In the league. 421 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: Why don't we continue to build on that? So Hurt's 422 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: just thinking, how do we continually improve? 423 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: I e. 424 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 3: What can I get more on my plate to help 425 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: the offense. And it sounds like that rubbed Siriani the 426 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: wrong way. He just kind of wanted to run it back. Hey, 427 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: let's get a figurehead in here and do exactly what 428 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 3: Stikeen to be doing. And I don't know. I mean, 429 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: you've seen baseball, right rob Like Pitcher goes through the 430 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: lineup once a nine up, nine down, four strikeouts, You're like, yeah, 431 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: we got this, And second time through they're hitting them 432 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: a little harder. Third time through and they're drilling him 433 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: and he's knocked out of the game. You can't keep 434 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: doing what you're doing, right, You had to adjust. Now, 435 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: maybe some of that is hurts, but they've got all 436 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: the pieces and now they add Barkley. I don't who 437 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: you got Lions or Eagles, who do you think is 438 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: who do you think more highly of this season heading 439 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: into Week one? 440 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a really tough one because ordinarily I would 441 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: say I would lean Eagles because number one, their experience 442 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 4: and number two as in battled as he is. I 443 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: trust Nick Sirian in a big spot to have a 444 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 4: lot more than I trust Dan Cabell. 445 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: Right, And who do you trust more? Hurts or Gough? 446 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: Jared Goff? 447 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: Actually, oh really, yeah I did not. Jared Goff at 448 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: least has shown it multiple times. Jalen Hurts is not. 449 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: That's the only argument against it. Yeah, but he said 450 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 4: he's had one great season in his career. One let's 451 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: not to say he can't do it again. And actually, 452 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: you know, I'll be honest, I don't know if this 453 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 4: is a hot take. I don't believe he's ever gonna 454 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: duplicate that magical year that he had two years ago. 455 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: And that's not a knock against him because that was 456 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: one of the great individual seasons we've seen in the 457 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 4: last decade. 458 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, similar to Patrick Mahomes. 459 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 4: Patrick mahomes first year as a starter, many say it 460 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: was his best year as a starter statistically. Now he's 461 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: a better quarterback now, but he's not duplicating those same numbers. 462 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: Jalen Hursts can do the same thing. He can become 463 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: a better quarterback, a better player, but that doesn't mean 464 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna have the kind of all world, all pro 465 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: level numbers year in and year out. 466 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's I mean, I would agree with that. 467 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: I just I don't know about the Lions. Like the 468 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: teams are heading in opposite directions, right, The Lions are 469 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: ascending and now they're gonna be hunted. Right, everybody know 470 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: the Lions aren't seeking up on anybody this year, whereas 471 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: the Eagles they were. The Lions last year start ten 472 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: to one, crater to the finish, destroyed in the wildcard round. Now, 473 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: everybody's kind of off Philly, right. They lose Kelsey, their center, 474 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, Sirianni loses both of his assistants. 475 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: He's on the hot seat. I mean, the dude started 476 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: ten in one the last two years. So it feels 477 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: like the Eagles and the Lions are two ships passing. 478 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I think I would lean Eagles 479 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: over the Lions. Now, where do you have niner? Still 480 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: one for you? 481 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: For now? I mean until proven. Otherwise you got to 482 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: stick with them. 483 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 4: I mean, as long as they have Kyle Shanhan even 484 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: for all his wards, as long as they have Brock Purdy, 485 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: who seems like steady Eddy, and if Christian McCaffrey is healthy, 486 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: they're still going to be at their worst case, you know, 487 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: a ten win team. So and unlike the rest of 488 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: the teams in that NFC, they have a history of 489 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 4: playoff success. May not always be you know, winning a 490 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: super Bowl, but they historically perform well in the postseason. 491 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: So you always have to give the edge to San 492 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: Francisco no matter who is on their roster. Provided Shanahan 493 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 4: party and again McCaffrey's there. 494 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we could wrap up with quick picks on today's 495 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 3: Olympics showdown in men's hoops, France five point dogs against 496 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: Germany eight thirty am Pacific tip and then the usay. 497 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: Now this was seventeen and a half and it's now 498 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: down to sixteen and a half. I still think there's 499 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: value on Serbia in that one. I don't know if 500 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: I feel think Germany is the better team, but I 501 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: feel like you can't give France five points. Wembin Yama 502 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: and the home court advantage, So I would lean toward 503 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: both dogs, France and Serbia in today's game. We gotta 504 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: start getting ready. The mindset of best bet rob given 505 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: an NFL is a couple of weeks away. 506 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you're the guy they count for the best bet. 507 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: No one has ever looked to me for gambling advice, 508 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: So it's more about you than me. Because to illustrate 509 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 4: that point, you're taking the dogs, both of them, taking 510 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: the favorites in. 511 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: Both of them. Oh gee, so one of us is 512 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: gonna look like a genius. It's probably gonna be you. 513 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: But now Germany's clearly better than France. But you know, 514 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 3: the go beart situation, which is we talked about yesterday, 515 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: which is bizarre. Ken wembin Yama takeover. You know, I 516 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: would love to see Wemby against the USA. I just 517 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't I think Germany would give the US a 518 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: better shot in the final, which is this weekend. All right, 519 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: that'll do it for today's pod. Back tomorrow. We'll talk 520 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: to you then,