WEBVTT - Ep. 132: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Hillbilly Tarpon and Delta Life

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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<v Speaker 1>we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by FHF Gear,

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<v Speaker 1>American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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<v Speaker 1>to be as rugged as the place as we explore.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Tim got in trouble last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He did Tim the squirrel dog.

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<v Speaker 3>He almost never does anything wrong. He's very smart. We

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<v Speaker 3>were gone for the weekend. He might have been neglected

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit by his caretakers.

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<v Speaker 1>And by neglected meaning he wasn't like pamper pampered effort

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<v Speaker 1>and petted and table food like. Perhaps he had to

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<v Speaker 1>live like a normal dog for that day.

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<v Speaker 3>He got in our trash last night, which is he's

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<v Speaker 3>never ever done before.

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<v Speaker 1>And well it wasn't last night because he was up

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<v Speaker 1>last night, but he got into the trash. I walk

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<v Speaker 1>outside today and this morning and trash was all over

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<v Speaker 1>our porch. I had left some trash out. I angrily

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the trash and we tried to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. I mean, we don't really see stray dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have a stray pig out last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible it was our straight pig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was definitely our pig. Maybe it was a pig,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it wasn't. I let Tim out, and I already

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<v Speaker 1>picked up the trash, resacked it up, put it on

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<v Speaker 1>the porch, about to take it down to our trash can,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a long way from.

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<v Speaker 2>Our house, a tenth of a mile from our house.

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<v Speaker 1>And I walk out and Tim has shredded the trash

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<v Speaker 1>and it's everywhere, which is so uncharacteristic. Tim is like

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect dog, like he he just does everything right

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<v Speaker 1>and then so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can and so so. Anyway, so he seemed like he

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<v Speaker 3>got chestised pretty hard. And it's because Tim has this

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<v Speaker 3>huge shame complex.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a He was chestised very hard.

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<v Speaker 3>If Tim were an vineagram, he'd need an enneagram one.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he perceives. He takes everything he really wants

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<v Speaker 3>to do right. He's trying to read the room at

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<v Speaker 3>all times, trying to be morally upright.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, clearly he did wrong, and he has been hiding

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<v Speaker 3>behind the table all day long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess, so, I guess so, so Clay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I are standing like how far distance wise feet wise,

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<v Speaker 3>would you say and a half feet Oh, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was longer than that. It was further than that

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<v Speaker 3>because we were and I said, what did you? I said,

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<v Speaker 3>did you did you get Tim in big trouble because

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<v Speaker 3>he's been hiding all day? And Klay said, Tim, come here,

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<v Speaker 3>and Clay's like trying to make up with him Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim hikes his butt up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>He does this weird the weirdest.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing I've ever seen an animal do. He hikes his

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<v Speaker 3>butt up in the air, and he like SLINKs to Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a sidewalk. He's like walking towards me with

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<v Speaker 1>his head.

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<v Speaker 3>His legs are up really high every step he takes,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like coming over to Clay. He gets to

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<v Speaker 3>me first, and he comes and he like wraps his

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<v Speaker 3>legs and body around me and like slides over to Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole time he's looking at me because I have

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<v Speaker 1>I have shamed him. And you know, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell a lot about a man by his dog

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<v Speaker 1>scolding voice. I know for sure, Spencer, Yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 1>scold that. I tremble thinking about about yours.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like a mange. When I'm done with.

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<v Speaker 1>All I did was give Tim a a full throttle

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<v Speaker 1>scolding and I threw my hat at him.

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<v Speaker 4>Threw my hat and you know, you went junior high

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<v Speaker 4>coach on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But he finally walked over to me and I I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of rubbed him behind the ear a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and he kind of warmed up to me and

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks everything's okay now ye. So yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was Tim the squirrel Dog. Welcome to the Beargary

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<v Speaker 1>shrender everybody, it's a man. Do we ever have? We

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<v Speaker 1>have a very interesting group of people here today. Two

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<v Speaker 1>new guests on the podcast. There's seven of us here.

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<v Speaker 1>We only have six headphones. We've got one mystery guest

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<v Speaker 1>who will be revealed after I introduced regular guests. To

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<v Speaker 1>my left, I have my lovely wife, doctor Misty Nukeom Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, happreat to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank Christy, you're becoming such a regular. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you a nickname.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we'll think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so Christy Spillmaker, why.

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<v Speaker 2>She's please don't code.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They so great to have you. Thank you, Josh Landbridge spilmmaker. Yes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I found the book that you inspired me to buy

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<v Speaker 1>would you would you read this if I if I

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<v Speaker 1>lent it to you, Yes, Barringia, the last Giant of Beringia.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I read this back in like two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four or whenever I remember. I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>reading it being like, is this sky real Scott Pictures. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good, it's good. It's a great book.

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<v Speaker 6>You've underlined some things in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Always always wait till you got to see some of

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<v Speaker 1>my new books. That was back in the early days.

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<v Speaker 1>To Josh has left, Tarrell across the Creek Farm thou

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<v Speaker 1>Wag Spencer. Great to have Terrell. I've never called you Teryl.

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<v Speaker 4>Why did?

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<v Speaker 1>When I get on this I call you? Spence is

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<v Speaker 1>our local pastured poultry farmer. Foul wag, longtime dear friend

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<v Speaker 1>of ours and Spence, why don't you introduce our our

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<v Speaker 1>real guest.

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<v Speaker 7>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a former Yeah, drum roll, drum roll, former Cross

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<v Speaker 4>County Arkansas, Rice queen and much better half. And Carla Spencer.

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<v Speaker 8>Carla, this is big. I've tried to get you on

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<v Speaker 8>here before and stuff just happened. She's a talented woman's

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<v Speaker 8>in demand. Man, Hey, Carla. Every time I see Carla,

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<v Speaker 8>she's always I can tell I keep a beat on

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<v Speaker 8>people on how close they're paying attention to Bear Grease,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, with friends, and a lot of them are

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<v Speaker 8>just kind of posers. I mean they're like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 8>that whole call your series, that was great, and I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 8>that was six months ago, and you know, stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 8>like I'm filing away.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I say it directly, other times I hold it

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<v Speaker 1>back and just file it away. It's like, okay, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of behind stuff like that. Carla stops me on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>like the day of pod cast comes out and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh excited, Yeah, so you should have been here a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yea, and not on your game now.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have your Carlo, and you were raising the Delta.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about all this. I was the

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<v Speaker 1>real mister River Delta. Yeah, the real deal, the h

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<v Speaker 1>our mystery guest though first time appearance, actually not No.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been on here for.

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<v Speaker 1>You think this young man has been on this podcast before.

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<v Speaker 2>Without a shadow of doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been on this podcast Montana.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, shamed me on my own River Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like just mystery guest is Bear John Newcom

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see brother, huge fan huge fan, Big fan

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about that bullet. First of all, how long

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<v Speaker 1>did it take you to grow that sucker? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you feed it? It's been about a three year cycle.

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<v Speaker 6>It's down officially below the collar.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to have to give it a

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<v Speaker 2>little snip stick before. What I think is.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny in our school about the Bear is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a senior in high school and Josh is his principal.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not at all true.

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<v Speaker 4>Art, but he just got a little more business up front.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's a pretty strict uniform policy. What I love

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<v Speaker 3>about about bears bullet is he just described it as

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<v Speaker 3>a cycle. One of my favorite Bears mullet stories is

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<v Speaker 3>that when Bear was you know, Bears, Bears had heis

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<v Speaker 3>and lows in his academic journey. And I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to throw you out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the platform.

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<v Speaker 3>But one time Bears g p a fell below what

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<v Speaker 3>Clay thought was appropriate. And Clay said, you can have

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<v Speaker 3>a mullet, but you can't be.

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<v Speaker 1>The So you can have a mull it, don't act

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<v Speaker 1>like a person that has a mullet. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay if you have a mullet, But.

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<v Speaker 6>Clay comes single handedly offending every mullet where.

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<v Speaker 1>The author of that book, man, yeah, that's God bless him.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to trim it up and he got a

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<v Speaker 2>g p A up.

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<v Speaker 6>Then he never heard of that being a reward, like

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<v Speaker 6>if you get your GPS, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can have a mullet until then a three point mullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Every point of g p A is like an extra jus,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a four point zero sound.

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<v Speaker 6>If you take some AP classes, you get some lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, he had stripes for a while.

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<v Speaker 9>So Missy, I thought you were going to tell the

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<v Speaker 9>story about him getting a technical.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, him really good.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had what was a technical mullet.

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<v Speaker 3>Correlation was strong, Yeah, it was strong, and we had

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<v Speaker 3>you know, back during COVID, you there were all these

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<v Speaker 3>like rules governing games, and so it was a very

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<v Speaker 3>difficult time to keep up a basketball program because schools,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a whole team would get it and have

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<v Speaker 3>to cancel their game. And that December of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that kept happening and for people who don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>our state remained pretty open, but at certain points things

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<v Speaker 3>would start to kind of slow down. So anyway, Bear

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<v Speaker 3>had a mullet during that time. We had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of cancelations. Bear John, we decided one night, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 3>just going to do like a spirit night. Our kids

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<v Speaker 3>have all been around each other, so we had refs

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<v Speaker 3>already hired, We had the gym and everything. So we

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<v Speaker 3>had a game and it was just like a blue

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<v Speaker 3>and gray game. So our team played each other and.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a scrimmage basically, and our coach was

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<v Speaker 3>highly offended at Bear's mullet, like he just hated it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he came over to the ref and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>in this next play, could you please, could you please call.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy out?

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<v Speaker 3>And she was great, she was She totally played a

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<v Speaker 3>long and she blew the whistle and she looked at

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<v Speaker 3>Bear and she said technical foul.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bear was like, what, he's in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle of the game of the crowd scrimmage, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a real basketball game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she called technical found and then she did

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<v Speaker 3>this hand motion like sweet bag and she said technical foul.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an offensive hair, dudelet. And all of.

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<v Speaker 3>The moms, because all the moms were also offended that

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<v Speaker 3>we let Bear get this hair haircut, and all the

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<v Speaker 3>moms in the stand just lit up. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>most like they started cheering. They were like, yes, it

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<v Speaker 3>was kick them out out of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut your hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry you had to go through that, son. Well okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I brought you on for one story. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like a one shot wonder story. Tell me about the

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<v Speaker 1>saga of the Hillbilly Tarpin. Hillbilly Tarpin is a gar

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<v Speaker 1>on fly Okay, yes, well it wasn't quite on a fly. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell you the whole cality sequence.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a worthy technicality.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, Well for some backstory, I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 7>catch a gar on a fly rod for like almost

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<v Speaker 7>a year and a half now, and I've used like

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<v Speaker 7>the nylon rope that everybody says.

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<v Speaker 1>That, like a thousands of people on Instagram have told

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<v Speaker 1>me thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I did that

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a few said it wouldn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a few like, hit it, but they immediately

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<v Speaker 1>spit it out.

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<v Speaker 7>They're pretty like pressured gar Like I know a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of people who try and pressure it's like, yeah, it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't get caught by a guy at the bullet

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<v Speaker 4>a fly fisher with the mullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been swimming across and one grab your.

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<v Speaker 6>Bullet tangled up in that?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a trick man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I know like a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 7>try and catch gar at this particular spot, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think they've just kind of got it figured out, Like

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<v Speaker 7>Uncle Zach has caught one there before using the nylon.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah, our Zach nukelem yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've tried it before. I've had him take it.

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<v Speaker 7>I've had him go for it and swerve it, but

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<v Speaker 7>I've never had it really like get tangled up right.

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<v Speaker 7>And so Uncle Josh actually made me like a really

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<v Speaker 7>nice one with like a dumbbell head on it, and

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<v Speaker 7>it was like a yellow nylon rope, nice and feathers

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<v Speaker 7>and it was like a real fly like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>like just like the rope, but it did have the

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<v Speaker 7>rope in it, and I had to take that. But

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<v Speaker 7>they just like took it so soft and spit it

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<v Speaker 7>out so quick. It didn't do anything. And so I

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<v Speaker 7>was out the other day and I had just like

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<v Speaker 7>what's called like a streamer on which basically is supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to just.

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<v Speaker 1>Look like a little bit fish.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So I was there with the streamer, and I

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<v Speaker 7>was I was trying to catch bass because it's a

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<v Speaker 7>real where I'm at is like a real deep pocket

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<v Speaker 7>in this river. And for the most part, it's just shallow.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a few kind of maybe like three footholes, but

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<v Speaker 7>then you get here and it's I mean, it's like

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<v Speaker 7>seven or eight feet.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really hot and I right now and so

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<v Speaker 4>like the river's really there's only a few habitable spots

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<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of a honey hole where he's at.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and it's it's a real it's probably the widest

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<v Speaker 7>point of the river for a long time, so there's

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<v Speaker 7>whitest and deepest. So there's there's like a few bluffs

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<v Speaker 7>and rocks on the side of this little hole. And

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<v Speaker 7>basically I was fishing next to these bluffs because there's

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<v Speaker 7>caves that go back in them where there's bass and

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<v Speaker 7>just you know, the gar will sometimes you go back.

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<v Speaker 4>There, mermaid.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And so I was trying to catch them, and

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<v Speaker 7>I caught like a little of brim.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like a long eared sunfish.

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<v Speaker 7>The real colorful ones long eer ye and uh, and

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<v Speaker 7>it I kind of fought it and got it in

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<v Speaker 7>and I see a gar go right out in front

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<v Speaker 7>of me probably, and I'm standing on like this rock

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<v Speaker 7>that's about three feet above the water, and I just

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<v Speaker 7>kind of like put it out there in front of

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<v Speaker 7>that gar and it goes for it and takes it

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<v Speaker 7>and basically it pulls it off the hook. And so

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, huh, I wonder if I could catch

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<v Speaker 7>one this way. And so I tied on a midge,

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<v Speaker 7>zebra midge, which is something that's no bigger than like

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<v Speaker 7>an apple seed maybe, and I put it out there,

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<v Speaker 7>caught a little sunfish.

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<v Speaker 6>That's an interest measures I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, why we got to bring

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<v Speaker 1>zebras into this, This is North America. I always get

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<v Speaker 1>upset when I see zebras in North America.

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<v Speaker 7>Carry I just got stripes. But and so I caught

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<v Speaker 7>one that was probably two inches long. And the midges

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<v Speaker 7>they don't have barbs on them, and I didn't really

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<v Speaker 7>think about that, and so I was kind of putting

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<v Speaker 7>it out there as I watched these gar rice, and uh,

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<v Speaker 7>they would.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a few spence use barbs on everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm there to eat and get groceries.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and I had a few take again, but they

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<v Speaker 7>just pulled them off the hook. And so finally I

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<v Speaker 7>caught another one. I took a stick and I pushed

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<v Speaker 7>that midge like all the way down it like all

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<v Speaker 7>the way down its throat into probably stomach, and I

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<v Speaker 7>put that out there and it started swimming and I

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<v Speaker 7>just kind of guide it towards the middle. And what

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<v Speaker 7>they would do is they'd go out in the middle

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<v Speaker 7>and they'd get under like a rock or something to

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<v Speaker 7>try and hide from the bigger fish.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had bigar, know the brand brim yep.

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<v Speaker 7>So I would kind of pull them out from under

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<v Speaker 7>these rocks and just make them fight because anytime like.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed to like them look wounded or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because like I'd see, like the guar just swim

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<v Speaker 7>right next to a perfectly healthy, you know fish and

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<v Speaker 7>wouldn't even think about it. But as soon as that

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<v Speaker 7>fish started struggling, they'd go for it. And so one

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<v Speaker 7>hit it, and I just gave it a bunch of

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<v Speaker 7>line because I knew, you know, like their mouths are

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<v Speaker 7>real bony, so you can't really hook them. And I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't even have a hook that was exposed, and so.

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<v Speaker 4>Wet pound test start using.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm using line as a five x tippet, so it's

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<v Speaker 7>probably like five or six pound test and so I

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<v Speaker 7>just give it all the line at once, and I

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<v Speaker 7>just kind of let it chew on it because I

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<v Speaker 7>you know, there was no way to catch it unless

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<v Speaker 7>it swallowed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 7>And then once it swallowed, I could reel it in,

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<v Speaker 7>and so it I probably sat on this rock for

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<v Speaker 7>like twenty or thirty minutes, and my cousin was across

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<v Speaker 7>the river and she was fishing, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started.

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<v Speaker 7>I got to a point where I was like, I

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<v Speaker 7>think it's about to I think it's probably swallowed it.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I waited for you knew it was still

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<v Speaker 7>on there, yeah, and I could see the line. It

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<v Speaker 7>moved the line, and I waited till it swam pretty

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<v Speaker 7>close to me. I didn't want to start reeling it

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<v Speaker 7>in when it was way out there, yep. And then

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<v Speaker 7>I started pulling them in, and I mean it was

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<v Speaker 7>a pretty nice one. It was probably two and a

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<v Speaker 7>half feet maybe, and I called my cousin, I was

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<v Speaker 7>like three inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, yeah, yeah and a half. I'd say it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty apples, ye.

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<v Speaker 10>And so so he didn't cut your line though, No,

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<v Speaker 10>I was, and I was just happened last night, and

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<v Speaker 10>and and I hadn't I hadn't got the full stords.

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<v Speaker 1>Well well and so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and so she was swimming over with the net

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<v Speaker 7>and I was, you know, I was, I had the drive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to swim across, swimming it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you just pulled them right in. Well not yet, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it right on. The story just keeps going.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes over and she doesn't have the net yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and that one breaks off. This isn't even the one. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the story hasn't even started.

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<v Speaker 4>Started.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but then I realized that I could catch them,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the next day I went back with kalo. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't even the same day. This reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>the first time Bear came home and told a deer

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<v Speaker 1>story to his grandmother. We have a video of like

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen minute story of a six year old Bear

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<v Speaker 1>telling every second of the story that happened on his

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<v Speaker 1>first dear in a monotone voice, staring at the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>The deer he came out. Dad was excited, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden there were two.

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<v Speaker 3>Except for Bear has a lot more infection in his

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<v Speaker 3>way because of the mullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you might speed us through.

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<v Speaker 7>The next day with my friend Caleb, and we're both

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just gonna like pretty much do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I swim across the river, get on the rock. I

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<v Speaker 7>probably go through like six or seven little you know,

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<v Speaker 7>brim before I finally get.

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<v Speaker 6>One brims.

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<v Speaker 7>And uh, finally one took it and it brought it

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<v Speaker 7>like under one of these caves, and it sighed under

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<v Speaker 7>there for a long time, and I figured by that

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<v Speaker 7>point it probably swallowed it if it was sitting there,

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<v Speaker 7>but I let it swim around a little more and

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<v Speaker 7>then uh, let it get close.

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<v Speaker 1>I started reeling it in.

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<v Speaker 7>Caleb swims across and he grabs you, buddy, different day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, someday they'll learn to stay on the same side

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<v Speaker 4>of the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, stay on the same side of the

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<v Speaker 1>banks as the fisherman.

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<v Speaker 7>And uh, pretty much he swims over to a spot

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<v Speaker 7>it's real deep, so he can't really touch, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just bringing this gar.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right next to him, trying to net it.

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<v Speaker 7>And we tried to net it like three or four times,

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<v Speaker 7>and then it would go on a big run and

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<v Speaker 7>then we'll bring it back and finally, and there were

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<v Speaker 7>some people that were up on a big bluff watching us,

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<v Speaker 7>like because we just now hooked into like a really

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<v Speaker 7>big bass and they were bass fishing, so we kind

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<v Speaker 7>of had their attention, so they were all like yelling

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<v Speaker 7>at us and stuff. And Caleb, he finally gets it

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<v Speaker 7>in the net and we go get it up on

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<v Speaker 7>this rock. And it was a very nice one, about

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<v Speaker 7>the same size as the other one, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>eighty apple seed probably yeah, probably close to that. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>I thought it was some good ingenuity and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>the world really wants you to use a piece of

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<v Speaker 7>the inner workings of a piece of para cord and

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<v Speaker 7>so Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I'd like to do it too. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>they're just sometimes like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You got the Texas rig and all these different setups.

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<v Speaker 4>Why can't you have like the bear rig or the

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<v Speaker 4>mullet rig or the mullet rig.

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<v Speaker 6>The mullet rig, I'm gonna make them fly that looks

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<v Speaker 6>like a punkin two inch pumpkin seed with a mullet

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<v Speaker 6>that's made out of paracord.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, with a with a pair of cord tail.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like you guys are pushing your paracord on Bear.

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<v Speaker 1>Well so did the world since Bear, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Bear, Bear won't be here anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Get lost.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really fun to having you Bear. Thanks for letting.

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<v Speaker 4>Us Silas almost all the way up. He had to

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<v Speaker 4>like within two foot of him, and he was so excited.

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<v Speaker 4>He's squealing in the light because he's talking all kinds

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<v Speaker 4>of trash and he doesn't even have it in and

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<v Speaker 4>he gets it and we see it flopping and it

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<v Speaker 4>cuts the line and swims off crest. So he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the time I caught a gar. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>no Spencer's ever caught a gar.

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<v Speaker 9>But that story does remind me of like the little

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<v Speaker 9>old lady who swallowed a fly, right, and so then

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<v Speaker 9>you have to swallow the next thing and then the

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<v Speaker 9>next thing in order to get it.

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<v Speaker 11>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I need I need to catch up on my h

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<v Speaker 1>woman who swallowed a fly. Yeah I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know why she swallowed.

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<v Speaker 11>There you go, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, well.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, that was exhausting, emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to the climax of the story and realized,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. That was fun So

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<v Speaker 1>second episode Missippi River Podcast. We're going to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But first let me say, if you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on the day it comes out or the day after,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be excuse me, the second, the second or

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<v Speaker 1>third of August, the meat Eater has their season opener sale,

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<v Speaker 1>which is meat Eater, First Light, Phelps and FHF gears

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<v Speaker 1>biggest sales of the year, twenty to fifty percent off

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<v Speaker 1>on just about anything. So if you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>in like twenty twenty five, like, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the rest of the place. Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'll get there. So, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this like Carla does on like

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<v Speaker 1>the day it comes out.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm faithful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, good job.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll have to shout out Will No, my my brother

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<v Speaker 5>in law, listen faithfully every.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, one of the best farm hands I ever had,

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<v Speaker 4>Kenyan farm hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I'm with Will that we got to stop

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<v Speaker 1>this story the season opener cell So Will. I was

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<v Speaker 1>with Will for like an hour and he made some

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 1>obscure reference to the Bear Grease podcast, and I said,

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>do you listen to the podcast? And he looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me and he said, I've listened to every single episode

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you've ever made. Pretty pretty sure, that's what he said, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said really and he said oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he started spouting off stuff from like that week. So

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<v Speaker 1>hat tip to Will.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what we went while they were here visiting

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<v Speaker 6>us for Mallory's wedding. We went out with some buddies

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<v Speaker 6>and had some dinner and we're waiting for our table

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<v Speaker 6>outside and this guy comes out and Will's wearing a

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<v Speaker 6>bear greas hat. Okay, and this guy goes bear grease man.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, he's like, you listen to the podcast. He's

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<v Speaker 6>like yeah. He's like he's like, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you need to come to the Bear Banans the Black

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 6>Bear Banans and meet Clay and he goes he goes, well, yeah,

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 6>that's a good idea. He's like, I know him and

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 6>he's like, that's Langbridge right there. The guy spins around.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Lmbridge like the bear grease Yeah man,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah man, great, great faithful listener. Faith So if you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>well and listen to this on those days, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Mediator store and get all kinds of

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>cool stuff so on this podcast, we're here to talk

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>about Mississippi River Episode two, which is took a wild turn.

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So part of the render as we tell what happened

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<v Speaker 1>on the backside. I interviewed Earl Jasper the day before

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast came out. Oh wow, I mean, or the

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>day before I had to turn it in to the

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>powers that be that Phil Phil Taylor, and it just

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>came about really quick and I had you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens fairly often on Burgrease where I'll have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>for something and then all of a sudden, you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to get it. I messaged him and he was.

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>He was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't even need such an awesome.

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Explanation for what I was doing. He was just like, Clay,

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 1>whatever you need, I'll do it. He met with me

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>and we we obviously had a much We had an

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>hour long conversation and you heard like twenty minutes of it.

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could play the whole thing just because

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it was so interesting just to sit and interview him.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was really cool. We'll talk about mister Earl

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<v Speaker 1>Hank Burdine. Man Hank Burdine is carrying this Mississippi River

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<v Speaker 1>series on his shoulders. Yeah, he is, like Hank is

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>such an entertaining guy to listen to, so knowledgeable about

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<v Speaker 1>the Delta, the Mississippi River. He's on the Misissippi River

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<v Speaker 1>levee commission for the section of the river. As I

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>understand it, there's levee commissions for different sections of the river.

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>That's the way I understand it. And so he he

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<v Speaker 1>is on the Mississippi and they're big sections. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like like Town's or something. But he's on the Mississippi

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<v Speaker 1>River levee board, which is a big deal. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>super knowledgeable. But his all the stuff he told me

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<v Speaker 1>about the way that part of the Delta was settled

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<v Speaker 1>was so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, he can he can describe it so well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>when he talked about the cane breaks and you know,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 4>it just it being a wildlife paradise, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he could paint a picture and is that

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 4>he's got that like Southern Mississippi accident and it's alligator.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds like an alligator.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Much. When you were quoting Mike Mark Twain, were

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<v Speaker 4>you kind of went into a gear where you, oh,

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 4>I had to you were saying, like, was that was

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<v Speaker 4>that artistic?

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>No? No, no it was.

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 4>It sounded like foghorn, leghorn and FDR mixed.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty, but it was, I know, except what

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. No, Mark Twain does that all the time.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>He would, he would, he would, he would write fanatically.

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to write like the what he perceived

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Vicksburg sounded like when they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the wall. They don't have ours it actually. Yeah,

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, you're really perceptive that you picked up that that.

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like trying to do that. Thank you.

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 6>I thought maybe you had a two thinkers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, the.

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Wall in the wall.

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<v Speaker 9>And yeah, all I know is as I listened to that,

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 9>I noticed that I started speaking more drawn out to

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<v Speaker 9>my coworkers, and to the point where I even noticed it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, you tap tapes of her when I

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>first fell in love with her, like when she was

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.959
<v Speaker 4>eighteen or nineteen. The accent is so strong.

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>She's really stronger than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah, she's lost. It's probably ten percent of

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<v Speaker 4>what it was lost to the work entertaining well.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that there's a bunch of interesting stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm torn on talking talking with Carla or talking to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else first about their interest in coming back to Carla.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Car we should start with Carla because the Mississippi River.

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<v Speaker 1>What we didn't talk about is that we Hank talked

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>about the Mississippi side of the river, so the east

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>side of the river. What we didn't talk about just

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>because there wasn't space, is that Arkansas was actually settled

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>later than Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so wild.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>The forest was cut, the swamps were drained later because

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi became a state in eighteen seventeen. Arkansas didn't become

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a state until eighteen thirty six. Yeah, and so there

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>was a lot more incentive incentive to be a US

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>citizen and being a US state.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 4>And you didn't have to cross the river, right.

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Didn't have to cross the river. There were more people there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Arkansas was like a wild country. And Carl,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where your family grew up and where you're from. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>So where are you from?

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<v Speaker 11>So I'm from Cross County, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>And does that touch the river?

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<v Speaker 11>It does not. It's a couple of counties.

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<v Speaker 1>In right, So we're right, it's in the delta.

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<v Speaker 9>It's in the delta where it's very flat, and you know,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 9>if it's not flat enough, they'll.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:38.479
<v Speaker 11>Precision land level it.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, but there's a ridge that runs through it

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 9>that separates you know, Western Cross County.

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 11>There's a ridge that goes through.

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<v Speaker 4>A LUs ridge less. Yeah, it's a yeah, it's it's

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 4>a sand. It's sand deposited by like the wind. By wind. Oh,

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 4>it's like a geographical phenomenon. It is wow out in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of the delta.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 9>And so everything is super flat except for this ridge

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 9>that goes through the middle of it. And I remember

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 9>when Terrell and I were in school done at Southern

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 9>Arkansas University.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what we do here.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm okay, but we were looking through this book and

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 9>it was funny.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay, Carlic, call your husband whatever you want.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Christy, you're invited back. Christy was laughing, Okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>We were looking through this book for a class. It's

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 9>called Fishes of Arkansas that our professor had written, and

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 9>I was like, hey, this picture right here looks just

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 9>like where I grew up.

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:49.239
<v Speaker 2>And it was.

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<v Speaker 9>It actually was. It was the town closest to where

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 9>my school was. And they were describing the different kinds

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 9>of you know features there and the fish that were there.

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<v Speaker 1>So your failure of farmers. Yeah, tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the history of the land and what

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>your family did and everything. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>So I grew up on a ris and soybean farm

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<v Speaker 9>where we were like fourteen miles from town, right, so

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 9>town meaning where there was a Walmart.

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, nice, Yeah, that's the definition of towns.

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 4>When everybody had Yeah.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, definition, you're not buying grass.

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 6>It was a Walmart, not a supercenter.

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right. We drove where did you buy your grass?

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Almost three hours to go visit.

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<v Speaker 9>It's really fascinating how the world is a very different

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 9>place than it was back then because fourteen miles from town.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 9>I mean we do that multiple times a day and

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 9>our kids to school. Right, but back then, like my parents,

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 9>my mom would go to town once a week to buy.

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>This would have been in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>In the eighties.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, but yeah, so rice and soybean

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 9>farms always lots and lots of mosquitoes.

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 11>Terrell got to be eaten up by them whenever.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 3>He came home.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we went out for like a romantic walk rot

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 4>out to the Yeah, there was a breeze and We

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 4>got out to like one of the pumping wells, and

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 4>I went to make my move, and just as I did,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 4>the breeze stopped, and there was like a three or

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 4>four second pause. And if I'm telling this wrong, feel

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 4>free to correct me. But I just remember hearing this humming.

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:29.959
<v Speaker 4>You do, and Carlos said run, and we were running

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 4>through clouds of mosquitoes.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 11>Oh my goodness, it's it's so thick out there.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your grandpa started the farm.

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<v Speaker 11>How many acres?

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<v Speaker 9>So I grew up on a four hundred acre farm.

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<v Speaker 9>Teeny tiny these days, it's teeny tiny. But my grandpa,

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<v Speaker 9>whenever he bought it in the late fifties, I mean,

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 9>that was a really big deal. So he had grown

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 9>up in a cotton farming family and decided that that's

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 9>not the life that he wanted to live as sharecroppers, right,

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 9>I don't know, Okay, So I did call my dad

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 9>because I wanted to back.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I had to get yeah, or fact checking the day.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So your dad didn't know for sure if he was

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>a sharecropper.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, But then he went into timber. And so as

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 9>you're telling the story about how the land was cleared,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 9>and there was this huge timber industry. It was fascinating

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 9>because it was all of the stories that I'd heard

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 9>about my grandpa, and then just from others as well,

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 9>that you know that there was this whole timber industry,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 9>and then people that came in afterwards that were able

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 9>to pick up land for a relatively cheap price, because

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 9>I mean it was only good for timber, right, and

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 9>then these big farms were built.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So the sequence was when your grandpa got it nineteen

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen fifties, the nineteen fifties, late fifties.

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 4>He long logged in the twenties and thirties.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 11>Right, he was born in sixteen.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so but when he got the land, I heard

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you say, when he got the land, it had pretty

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>much just been logged.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and so they had pretty much they had cleared it,

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 9>but there were still piles of logs. My dad was like,

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 9>I still had to go pick up stumps and you know,

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 9>to help you clean it up.

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I've heard I've heard one of my farming buddies in

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the Delta, Lee Walt tell me that when he was

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a little boy, he remembers them pushing out stumps and

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>picking up stuff, and Josh for the record. Most of

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>America's agricultural fields were cleared well before the nineteen fifties.

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>It's one of this.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 5>Part of the timber industry.

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, just just so civilized agriculture. I mean they're not clearing.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean minuscule amounts of land today are being cleared

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of timber to be commercially farmed. That all most of

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that happened about the nineteenth century farming right now, that's

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>part of it. But there's but they cleared, They cleared

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>so much land, and they're just they're just not doing

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that anymore. And so the fact that they were cutting

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>timber to make agricultural land in the nineteen fifties is

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty wild.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 11>And it's a it's a hard way to go.

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 9>And as I was talking with my dad, he was

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 9>saying about how, you know, whenever he got financing for it,

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 9>that the people were like, oh my gosh, this is

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 9>the biggest loan that we've ever given for you know,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 9>for farmland, and it was eighty thousand dollars.

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 9>And I interviewed my grandpa for a class whenever I

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 9>was in college. You were doing family histories and he said, yeah,

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 9>I said, people were just sitting around waiting on me

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 9>to fail so they could come and scoop it up

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 9>to the land at a better price.

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 11>But man, he you know, was lived through the depression

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 11>and knew.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 4>How to abject poverty. Yeah, like didn't have shoes, yeah,

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, for other reasons.

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 9>Mister Earl was talking about, you know, like poverty and

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 9>you know, farming and if you only get paid once

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 9>a year, if you don't spend your money wisely, then

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 9>then there's not money for things like you know, shoes.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 4>So so he was like super hard worker yeah, and

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 4>super like just the perfect first generation pioneer kind of farmer. Yeah.

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 4>And used a lot of dynamite to clear out stumps

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 4>because that back then because they didn't have the machinery

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 4>that we have.

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and just a lot of hard work. And you know,

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 4>back then farms were smaller and it's before the eighties

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 4>that get bigger, get out and that killed a lot

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 4>of the family farms. But really really neat stuff. And

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 4>her mom was her mom passed away recently, but super

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 4>tough lady. Like when you think about like just a tough,

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 4>hard working woman, that was her mom, and as sweet

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 4>as could be and she I remember here telling me

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 4>like she used to pick cotton by hand, and like

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 4>the big cotton sacks and in summer and stuff when

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 4>they got out of school, Carlisle so picking cott in

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 4>my hand, and so like it would it would be

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 4>really interesting. I was thinking about it. Tayo was cutting

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 4>hay to have mister Earle and Carlo's mom talking the stuff.

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I mean that brings up an interesting point.

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>So you know, on this last episode we had mister

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Earl Jasper African American man that talked about growing up

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>in the Delta, and it was kind of a classic

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>story that surprised me even a little bit, like I

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>would have felt like maybe his parents, I didn't know

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that he would have. I knew he would have the

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>stories of the racism and stuff like that. That was

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>not a surprise him being born in the fifties, but

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>like his parents were sharecroppers and he was so involved

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>in agriculture his whole childhood. That kind of surprised me.

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 1>But it was clear, and Hank Berdine talked about it.

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Will Primost talked about it. I read a big excerpt

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>from John Berry's book about all the Italian sharecroppers, and yeah,

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of poverty stricken whites that were

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in the South too, that were that were sharecropping and

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that were Yeah, I mean it was they were there.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 9>And so it was fascinating to hear that about like

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 9>the all of the different groups because my brother married

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 9>a girl from who grew up in Newport and her

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 9>family was Italian.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh really like Italian? You know. Anyway, I got on

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that boat even after seeing those.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 5>Side they said, don't do it.

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 4>But you know, if you get on a boat, even

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 4>in Italian, if you're really poor and so desperate, you

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 4>probably can't read.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, now, where where is your families? Where

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>do you think your family's from?

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Do you know?

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean like deep history?

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 9>Oh yes, my dad is roll into genealogy, so he

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 9>has traced his family back to Scotland and yeah, so

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 9>lots of Scotch.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Are not not surprising when you see your kids.

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.760
<v Speaker 4>There's a I brought a significant portion of Slavic blood

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 4>into this, those those British isles genetics.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, fascinating, Josh. What stood out to you

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>about the podcast?

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 6>So I thought the podcast was fantastic. I I appreciated

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 6>all the history in there. But I have to say,

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 6>after I listened to the podcast, I texted you and

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 6>said that segment with mister Earle might be the best

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 6>thing you've ever had on the podcast.

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 6>I was, well, you know, it was more than just

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 6>I enjoyed it and appreciated it, Like it really hit me,

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 6>Like just to listen to him and to hear his story,

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 6>I honestly teared up. And part of it just yeah,

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 6>because I think I think it's I think it also

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 6>helps that we know mister Earl and know the quality

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 6>of a man that he is, and to hear him

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 6>talk about to hear him talk. I think that the

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.720
<v Speaker 6>part that that really got me is when you said

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 6>when he said they integrated the school, and then he said,

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 6>what what was it like? And he paused and he

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 6>was like there was fights every day, you know what

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 6>I mean.

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like that's the part that got me too.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the reason I asked you that.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, it was it was like, this is

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 6>a man who's endured, you know what I mean, And

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 6>he's an example there. He doesn't carry this sense of

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 6>I've been wronged or my people have been wronged. He

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 6>carries this attitude of we must progress, you know what

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 6>I mean, And there's a sense of I'll do whatever

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 6>it takes to do my part. And just what what

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 6>an honorable man? I mean, just an absolutely honorable man.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 6>I have great appreciation for him.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 4>And mister Earl is one of those guys one you

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 4>always just want to call him mister Earl.

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 2>You're going to get that guy respect.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 4>But he always talks to you like, I don't know,

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 4>just like his his faith just bubbles out of him

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 4>when he talks to you. He's talking to you like

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 4>because you're a child of God and.

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 6>He loves you absolutely.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Like everything that he said in there about like the

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 4>spiritual the delta in the church, like there are decades

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 4>of example in life, and just sweetness that exudes from

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 6>He makes this pore feel valuable because they're a child

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.879
<v Speaker 6>of God, you know. And I really liked the way

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 6>he mentioned and he's like, you know, there was the

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 6>what did he say? There was the physical man and

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 6>the spiritual man and you gotta you gotta grow both.

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I just that part was impacting to me,

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. It impacted me. I feel

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 6>like it it brought something into my life.

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you actually dissected his words, the words were simple,

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.959
<v Speaker 1>but them coming from him were so powerful. Like hearing

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>him talk about Martin Luther King Junior getting sassinated. I mean,

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>we've all heard that story. We've grown up with that story.

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>It was before our time, that happened. Most of us

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in this room are like in the range of forty

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>years old. You know, we know that happened. But to

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>hear him talk about how it impacted him as a

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>as a as a senior in high school, and how

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 1>it sent ripples through the black community, and just hearing

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>him say it, I just was like, oh, yeah, that

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>really would have It wouldn't have been like some celebrity

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>getting killed that you really didn't, you know, you just

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>knew their name and liked them. I mean, this guy

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 1>meant so much to them, and you kind of felt

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that sting, you know. And then yeah, that part about integrated.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know what I was gonna asks. I

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>just knew. I just told him I wanted to talk

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 1>to him about his life, and it just kind of progressed,

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know. And yeah, when he talked about integration, I

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I've never really thought that deep about what

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it would have actually been like. Now, we have heard stories,

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>especially being from Arkansas about the Little Nine, which was

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>the national story of nine students they integrated into Little

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Rock High School and some of those people are still alive.

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>It was it made national news, and it was it

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 1>was the a terrible thing for our state Governor Orville

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Pabas was the Wooden Fabs. Yeah, yeah, cassal Art jack

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Wagon of himself. But some of those people are still alive.

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Missy's talked, You've interviewed well.

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 3>So the first black Little Rock teacher and administrator were

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 3>a husband and wife couple and their daughter is a

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:42.839
<v Speaker 3>friend of mine and she has actually I think you've

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 3>been with us at some of the some of the

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.439
<v Speaker 3>interviews with with her mom.

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>She she passed away.

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Recently, her mom did, but she talked a little bit

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 3>about about that. And then my friend Virginia and all

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 3>of her siblings. So the Little Rock nine tried to

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 3>integrate in and they were met with enormous hostility and

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 3>they actually ended up closing down the schools, like completely

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 3>closed down the Little Rock public school system for I

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 3>one or two years. It was an extended time. And

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 3>then when it reopened. It was integrated, you know, and

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 3>that it was like, we have no choice but to

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 3>do this, and so we're going to reopen. And so

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 3>those my friend was part of that second group of

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>kids that came in and they didn't have the publicity,

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 3>and some of them would say, or at least I've

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>heard them say that they didn't have the support either

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 3>because it was less publicized and a lot more challenging.

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 3>They weren't on national TV and they didn't have the

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 3>eyes of the world watching when they reopened, and it

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 3>was it was incredibly challenging. And they've talked to our

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 3>kids about that and really powerful stories people who have

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 3>endured a whole lot.

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>So it was impacting me to hear mister Earle, Christy,

0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>what's that to you? The whole thing doesn't have to

0:45:58.920 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>be about misster Eeryl.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 5>I do want to say something about mister Earle, though,

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 5>I think, to me, what I heard inside of what

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 5>he was sharing is it honors the struggle. Like you

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 5>heard him talk about it being hard. You would never

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 5>want your kids to go through that, and then you

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 5>would say, but you just got to stay focused because

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 5>it's not always going to be like that, And so

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 5>there's a sense of hope I think inside of him

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 5>and purpose inside of the struggle, and to find that

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 5>incredibly honorable. I want to live my life like that.

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to have struggle and think why me.

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 5>I want to think like he did, stay focused, think

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 5>about the Lord. This is not always the way it's

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 5>going to be if you do your part. And then

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 5>that's what I heard inside of him, and I think it.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 5>I think that's honorable, but it also it also is

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 5>more than that. It makes me not want to make

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 5>his struggle for nothing, Like I find a connection to

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 5>it and think I have responsibility inside of carrying myself

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 5>in a way like he carried himself.

0:46:58.960 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 5>Was hugely impacting to me. We were talking earlier. Another

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 5>part that is impacting the Captain Hank Berdine. Yeah, I

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 5>I love his accent and I think I listened to

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 5>him speak and I think there's a stigma that when

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 5>you hear that kind of Southern accent it's less educated

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 5>or not as sophisticated, and that that man is so educated,

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 5>so sophisticated in his knowledge of his of of what

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:33.319
<v Speaker 5>he does. And I found that I was like this

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 5>is remarkable. Like that stood out to me, and I

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 5>thought it was. I thought it was highly remarkable. And

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 5>I love how I am not a soil person like

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 5>Spens and carlab degrees and soil science and clay biologist,

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Carlos a biologist anyway, like I don't have I don't

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 5>have any of that. But I could hear and picture

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 5>what he was describing and that that is another level

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 5>of ability and educated anyway I was that stood out

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 5>to me.

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Connected to that and Hank Verdon, he talked about how

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>this this art and this writing thing came into the

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Greenville area, which was I mean, I never knew that.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 4>I went to Natchez once, like I was. I did

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 4>some work with Alcorn State, which is a big it's

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:44.399
<v Speaker 4>a it's a college down there that has a real

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 4>good act program that works with a lot of small farmers.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 4>And I went walking around and I just thought, Oh,

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 4>it's a town in Mississippi, you know whatever stereotypes right, and

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 4>just walking around the history in that town and like

0:48:56.520 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 4>the architecture, crazy stuff, Like I.

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Mean, at one time it was one of the richest

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>cities in America.

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 4>And like I spent like half a day there and

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 4>like just I had nothing else to do, so I

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 4>just went for a walk. And that was the impression

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 4>when I walked through the town of like this place

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 4>used to really be something. It's still cool town, but

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 4>you could tell this place was like a big deal

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 4>at one time.

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's so that what you just said is

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>connected to what's coming, and it kind of was revealed

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>in the second episode. Is that what happened to the

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Delta was that they couldn't figure out this labor thing.

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, after the Civil War, after the sharecropping regime.

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they would say it failed or

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:46.280
<v Speaker 1>it just didn't work very good, and they the Delta

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>lost a whole lot. And the Delta is you go

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Delta today, it's way different than what it

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>would have been in its prime. I mean a lot

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>of the cities look like ghost towns, you know, and

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that's no secret. But it's so interesting to think about

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Greenville being this hub of art and literature and that

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>is still you still feel that. And we went to

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Hank's house and and not to get to personal with Hank,

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 1>but his he he had in his house, he had art,

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.720
<v Speaker 1>he had bookshelves full of books he had, he had

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>personal personal art and I can say that like pictures

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of his family. I mean I walked in and I

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, this guy has documented his journey in

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>life more than most people I've been around. And he

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and it inspired me to uh. I mean, you just

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 1>want his house was like a museum and uh and

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and and that's connected. I think back to this, you

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>know whatever that brought just in a awareness of of

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the world and art and beauty and how to describe that,

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and this thing inside of humans that wants to wants

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to memorialize life, human life, you know. And so it

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>was really neat being around Hanking those guys, and I

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>really was inspired. I mean I was like, wow, I

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 1>want to I want to celebrate my culture. I want

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate the stuff that I'm doing. And not that

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>we do that externally with like a painting on the wall,

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but it helps, you know. And then all the writers

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:35.760
<v Speaker 1>down there. I don't want to give away a future

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Berger's podcast next spring, but there are more Turkey hunting

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>writers in Mississippi than anywhere really just everybody. I mean,

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you meet some guy on the street and he's like, yeah,

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>my name is Bill. Yeah, I got a turkey hunting book.

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're not written a book and published about country

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.919
<v Speaker 1>music exactly, Yeah, I'm serious. Everybody down there has got

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a book. And uh. I went to the to the

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>uh uh well, and I just thought, I mean, how

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 1>many turkey hunting writers do I know in Arkansas? And

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, we're just a bunch of hillbillies. These

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:15.399
<v Speaker 1>people down there cultured and educated Mississippi, Mississippi, they say,

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>wah wahaw.

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:22.919
<v Speaker 1>Now, but William Faulkner. I loved the William Faulkner quote. Well,

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>he said, he said to understand the world, you have

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.720
<v Speaker 1>to understand a place like Mississippi. And then that quote

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>where he said, in two generations they do need denuded,

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 1>de rivered, and d swamped Mississippi. And then he goes

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>into that very complicated paragraph about all the different ethnicities

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that were there and how they had all mixed together

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and how that the land would reek it's it was.

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So it was like a wildly complex paragraph. But you know,

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.240
<v Speaker 1>William Faulkner from Mississippi.

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:01.280
<v Speaker 4>And it's like a when you look at it today,

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 4>when you look at like stuff that's happening in the Amazon,

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I mean, like our seeds are kind

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 4>of boiling right now, as in the golf, like I

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 4>think it was one hundred and one in the golf,

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:15.359
<v Speaker 4>like in near Florida. You're seeing that thing play out

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 4>and and it's just that's anyways. It just like that

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 4>thing that was said was just like a truth.

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:27.720
<v Speaker 1>He said they the people will inflict the lands revenge. Yeah,

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was like, whatever's happening, it's going

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to be paid for at some point.

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 4>And it's easy to look and think, oh, well that

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 4>was back then, but it's like we still haven't learned

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 4>that lesson. If I think if you were to look

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 4>around and be like, those words still haven't been heated,

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 4>you know. So it's really good.

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Quote and I'm stealing all I'm picking all the low

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>hanging fruit. What I learned on the podcast was that

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the Mississippi Delta was one of the last places in

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 1>America to be settled because of the river. When you

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 1>think about all the land that doesn't have a river

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and you can just walk in there and build a

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>house and not have any major problem. The biggest river

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>on this continent where it floods near near where it

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.959
<v Speaker 1>enters the Ocean, you know, you know, five hundred miles

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 1>up from it, one thousand miles up from it ere

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Cape Girardo, which is yeah, it floods, so you can't

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.399
<v Speaker 1>build a house there until the levees of the late

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 1>eighteen sept the government levees of the late eighteen seventies.

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.840
<v Speaker 1>So you know, the trans Continental Railroad had gone across America,

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sequoias had been cut, but the Mississippi Delta was

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>still relatively unsettled. And when you think too about the

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, it took me a while to understand what

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:56.280
<v Speaker 1>these people were saying. You know, there literally weren't people

0:54:56.480 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in western Mississippi, many people at all before the Civil War.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were just they had just cleared some

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>land right on the river if you can get out

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>of the boat and clear land. But the interior of

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the Yazoo Mississippi Delta and on the Arkansas side of

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the river, they're just people were not there. It was

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a virgin wilderness. And that's where our boy Bearger's Hall

0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>of Famer Hult Coggier made his living for about twenty years,

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 1>commercial bear hunting and feeding logging camps. And that's why

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he killed three thousand bears with his hounds in his lifetime.

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:41.239
<v Speaker 1>It was a virgin wilderness. But mister, what stood up

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to you?

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, obviously I thought I thought the podcast

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 3>was really good.

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I've we've box thanks man.

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, We've done the Jaspers for a while, and I've

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 3>heard pieces of his story before.

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think with someone someone like.

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Earl Jasper, who's live the life he's lived, who, like

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Christy said, has endured a whole lot, has maintained a

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 3>certain posture, I always feel whenever I hear people who

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 3>have had those kind of experiences and who are I mean,

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 3>just who he is, I feel humbled, just just like,

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 3>don't talk, don't just let's let him tell his story

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and just listen, don't you know, don't say a word,

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 3>just listen. And I think I was a little bit

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that concerned is the right word. But

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 3>just when you when you wanted to interview him. I

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 3>was in the room when you were interviewing him, and

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 3>I heard what he said, and I knew, like, this

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 3>is this is good. I mean it is poetic, like

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:48.360
<v Speaker 3>what some of the things he said were poetic, but

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 3>in a in a certain sense like his the life

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 3>behind it is what gave it so much power. And

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 3>when he said there's a physical delta and a spiritual delta,

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 3>it was his life that gave that statement power. And

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 3>those words coming from his mouth mean more than those

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 3>words coming from from my mouth. And and and I

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 3>think when I listened, I listened to the rough draft,

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 3>which I don't always listen to the rough draft of

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Bear Grease podcast. And at the end, you know, it

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 3>just ends with him and then it's just over, and

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 3>it's you know, I don't know if y'all pick that up.

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 3>And then at the you know, then the music starts

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 3>in Clay gives like the summary statements, but usually Clay

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 3>would come on and interpret or whatever, but he just

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:33.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of.

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Left it, and I was I was really grateful he

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 2>did that. Like I I walked.

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 3>We were outside, both of us, and I was listening

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:41.439
<v Speaker 3>to it in the garden and Clay was walking around

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 3>listening to it. And we both finished it about the

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 3>same time, and we kind of met up in the

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 3>yard and he said, what do you think? And and

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:50.440
<v Speaker 3>he kind of said to what he you know, he

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.600
<v Speaker 3>just felt like, let let let him speak and whatever

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 3>he says, that's I'm not going to add to that

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 3>or because you can't, like you can't take you can't

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 3>add or our takeaway from that. And I was like, no,

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I knew exactly, I knew exactly what you were doing.

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 3>But there's a sense when it came out, I wanted

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 3>to make sure, like I wanted to kind of control

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody in the world that listened to the Bear Grease

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 3>podcast and just make sure I wanted everybody to appreciate

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 3>who he was, like, I know, I appreciate him because

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 3>I know him. I know like he walks, he walks,

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 3>the talk you know, he is what you're hearing is

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 3>and I kind of wanted to protect that. And I

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 3>just was really grateful as we heard feedback from the

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Bear Grease, you know, even just comments on Instagram or

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 3>different places, I felt like people were able to hear that.

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 3>I felt like, you know, people were and people respected

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 3>him and were able to give to give that, and

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I was just appreciative.

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I think his story. We're in a time right now where.

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of people that tell you how you

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 3>should talk about things, how you should feel about things,

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 3>how you should say things, and it's it's it can

0:58:57.240 --> 0:59:00.120
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit risky to even for you you

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Clay to bring you know, to have that conversation. It

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 3>could be risky for him to bring his story into it.

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 3>And I I just kind of wanted to protect everyone.

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 3>But I just felt like everybody treated treated the story

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:17.040
<v Speaker 3>the life with respect that it that it deserves, and

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I was grateful for that and because his life deserves

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 3>respect and it deserves Uh. I like, if I could

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 3>just tell people how to listen. I've Earl has spoken

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 3>at our school and UH, and the way I want

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 3>to tell all the kids is just hush, just hush

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 3>and listen, and they always.

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Do before and go okay, everybody, just hush.

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of what I wanted to say to everybody.

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Just hush, just listen, don't don't say anything. And I

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 3>felt like when I listened to the podcast, that's what

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I heard was just it. I felt that in my

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 3>in my heart, I felt like the whole world just

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 3>hushed and listened. And I was hoping that when people

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 3>heard it, they would do that without me saying hush,

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 3>and they did and that's an appropriate response.

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could have scolded them like I did Tim.

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>The people of the world.

1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 4>You hush up, stay out that trash.

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>No, it was really special having mister Earl. And you

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:21.120
<v Speaker 1>know what, I what I came away thinking about it

1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.520
<v Speaker 1>was how grateful I am that we have a platform.

1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I think it's a testament to

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the world that we can on a hunting platform if

1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what you call bear grease, which we would, I mean,

1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Meat Eater is a hunting conservation media company. I mean,

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>our core people are going to be hunters, even though

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.480
<v Speaker 1>we have a big number of people that would listen

1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that aren't hunters, like Carla and like thal Wag that

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:52.960
<v Speaker 1>has done some hunting in the past.

1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you're a hunter prefer to let people hunt

1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:57.120
<v Speaker 4>my land?

1:00:57.200 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 1>That Yes, Yes, I'm grateful that we've got a platform

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<v Speaker 1>that we could talk about stuff like this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cool. I feel grateful that we have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this space is kind of is here, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is really cool because you know, the well, the human

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<v Speaker 1>experience for real. I feel like I kind of captured

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<v Speaker 1>a tagline for bear Graace that I'm going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about is that we are in pursuit of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the world. Yeah, We're in pursuit of understanding the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a legitimate statement inside of the topics

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about looking back at deep human history and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the cultural stuff here in the US of

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<v Speaker 1>rural America, and we're in pursuit of understanding the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means given. But here in mister Earl's perspective

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<v Speaker 1>and here in Hank Berdine's perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>And hearing them both together on that platform, I think

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<v Speaker 2>was really really valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's this is this will be wild to

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<v Speaker 1>say Percy, you know, the whole the pot. The podcast

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<v Speaker 1>was talking a lot about the Percys and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how they built this little circle in the delta that

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<v Speaker 1>was different than much of the other side, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a wild story to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've never heard it. Oh it's kept the

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<v Speaker 4>clan out kept.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Like if it wasn't so well documented, you would

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like a whitewash of history, which we

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<v Speaker 1>we hear people talk about and you know you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, But there was he They really did stuff

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<v Speaker 1>different inside of a pretty tight little circle.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting too, like where you mentioned the Percy guys,

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<v Speaker 4>because like agriculture is my wheelhouse, right and one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things that you you made a statement earlier in

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<v Speaker 4>the podcas where you talked about the delta missed out

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<v Speaker 4>because they couldn't figure out that labor thing, the labor

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<v Speaker 4>and racial thing in the in the business. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>still going on in agriculture, I mean rural communities regardless

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<v Speaker 4>of ethnicity, you know, whatever, there are rural America's collapsing.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not because there isn't an answer. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>that there's something there to that, like it can be done,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it can be done in a fair way, It

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<v Speaker 4>can be done. You know. It was intensely community based,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, and I don't know, I just think

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<v Speaker 4>like in a different format there, it would be really

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to pull that stuff apart and apply it to

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on even today, because all those problems, problems

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<v Speaker 4>like that don't go away. Yeah, they just keep rolling

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<v Speaker 4>on and getting more complex. So it was really interesting

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<v Speaker 4>for me, as more on the agricul cultural side to

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<v Speaker 4>hear that, And and I'm like, why don't we learn

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<v Speaker 4>about this these kind of things, you know, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>got a degree inn ag and I never heard anything

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<v Speaker 4>about that. Yeah, And I feel a little cheated. Come on, Bumpers.

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<v Speaker 11>Well.

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<v Speaker 9>So one thing that I felt though, just through everyone

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<v Speaker 9>that was interviewed was just a real honoring of the

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<v Speaker 9>people that lived there, Like just the work ethic, the

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<v Speaker 9>ability to endure. You know, farming is not for the

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<v Speaker 9>faint of heart, and and neither is logging. Yeah like,

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<v Speaker 9>and neither like and neither are any of those things

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<v Speaker 9>or hunting or any of that. Like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 9>to be cold, so I'm not, so I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 9>be out hunting duck hunting like people do where I

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<v Speaker 9>grew up. But just the way that everyone spoke about

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<v Speaker 9>the people there was really touching to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Hank talking about how his grandparents were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that cleared land and the Delta and had that

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<v Speaker 1>pioneering spirit that made the Delta unique. Yeah, that was cool,

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought about it and I was like, my

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents did it was yeah in Arkansas, it was later

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<v Speaker 1>than later than that, And it's easy to think about

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<v Speaker 1>that and oh yeah they cleared land.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about like, it's summer right now, it's it's it's hot,

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<v Speaker 4>high humidity, So think about doing that when there's no

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<v Speaker 4>respite from the heat, when there's no respite from Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the elements, you know, like there's some mosquitoes, like if

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<v Speaker 4>you get hurt, there's no doctor, and even if there were,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't afford it, you know, like there you're on

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<v Speaker 4>your own. Like Earl. Mister Earl talked about like they had.

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<v Speaker 5>To hunt to live, lots of outside time. He said,

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<v Speaker 5>they weren't playing.

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<v Speaker 1>For existence said he said people used to hire gods

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<v Speaker 1>to go look for sport. He said, yeah, exactly, that

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<v Speaker 1>was good.

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<v Speaker 3>I the thing about Hank Burdine, I think it's really

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<v Speaker 3>easy to think that to especially in like a modern

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<v Speaker 3>worldview where you see the world increasingly polarized and there's

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<v Speaker 3>lines of us them, you know, all the different groups.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, what have an Earl and Hank Berdine both

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<v Speaker 3>on this podcast, with Earl's words saying, you know they

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<v Speaker 3>we wanted the same thing. You know, we're at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, we're just humans and people are people,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're all made in the image of

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<v Speaker 3>God and all kind of want the same things. And

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this podcast was a very good kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying, Carla, You're glad that people spoke respectfully

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<v Speaker 3>of and I think what you're saying to Christy. When

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<v Speaker 3>you hear his voice, you wulit necessarily associate that with

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<v Speaker 3>certain characteristics, and yet you see it on here, you

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<v Speaker 3>see and I think that that's just it is really valuable,

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<v Speaker 3>And I agree with you, Clay. I was grateful that

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<v Speaker 3>this platform exists, and I was grateful that the listeners

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<v Speaker 3>gave the proper respect to both of these men. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a way of just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast itself was just you know, people are humans,

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<v Speaker 3>and at the end of the day, humans are valuable,

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<v Speaker 3>and all the differences that may exist, humans are humans

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<v Speaker 3>and humans are valuable.

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<v Speaker 6>Humans are people too.

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<v Speaker 2>Humans are people to people too.

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<v Speaker 4>Human lives and all humans like shooting stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, that's what Well.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next episode of Bear Grease, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>learn about a lot of nineteen twenty seven Johnny Cash.

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<v Speaker 4>There it is cash maybe so maybe so actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 11>I have to tell you though.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 9>So I've been like telling my family like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 9>need to listen to this, you know this series, and

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<v Speaker 9>my brother tells me, hey, I read a really good book.

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<v Speaker 9>It's about the flood of eighteen nineteen twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 11>It's called Rising Tide.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm like, I've heard about it, and I've only heard

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<v Speaker 9>about it because I've heard you talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>It because you're a faithful listener.

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<v Speaker 11>So I can't wait to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>What John Barry. I love that guy. He's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a voice you wouldn't expect to hear on Bear Grease.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I can't even pretend to have a New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey accent. But he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote he read that of that one episode that

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<v Speaker 2>was powerful, that was really he's got.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, buh, he's got like a real cart that

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<v Speaker 1>he's got. He's got. He's got a really gruff, gruff voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I love John Barry. He really is top notch American writer.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's written some very very successful books. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a real straightforward guy. Yeah, he's really straightforwarder. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that would like tell you if

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<v Speaker 1>he was mad at you, but he would. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't tell you he's mad at you, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not mad at you. Do you see what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Because because he was super generous, Misty and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to d C to meet with him. That's not where

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<v Speaker 1>he lives, but he was in d c So we're

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<v Speaker 1>super generous, super you have to figure that out on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's probably all over the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, that's enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, great guests, and you're gonna be shocked when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear episode four. I'm not even gonna tell you why,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, how many?

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<v Speaker 4>How many you can have like twenty five episodes on

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a big story, Christy. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a meanderinge river, haven't you heard? Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like you never know where it's gonna go. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a road that splits into seven different ways and they

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<v Speaker 1>all look the same, like you just have to pick one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys so much. Carla, thanks for being on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you anything else you want to add.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm excited to hear more.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, asked you to do the wave. There was like

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<v Speaker 4>a Rice queen.

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<v Speaker 1>That translates the audio.

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<v Speaker 4>Her prize winning Broccolian rice recipe.

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<v Speaker 2>Carla give us.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Josh, Christy. Great to have you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much, Fair Grace couples of dishes.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.