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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Pack twelve Apostles. The college football schedule

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Speaker 1: for the conference is out. There are some winners and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be some people who are real pissed off. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve refs are Pack twelve refing again. Bobby Wade

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Speaker 1: upon us how many Pack twelve teams get in and

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Speaker 1: what's up, buddy? You ready to go? Actually? Oh, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I forgot. I'm George Rice Stir. He's Ralph

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Speaker 1: and this is the pact well apostles, Hi, George, how

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Speaker 1: are you? What's what's the You don't have it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't notice a little bit of timber

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Speaker 1: or not enough excitement in your voice like you usually have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. The PAC twelve schedule,

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Speaker 1: like I was, I was kind of excited about it,

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Speaker 1: and then my first thing I did this morning was

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Speaker 1: going to record upon the Pack twelve network on Sling

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Speaker 1: because the PAC twels schedule it for eight am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Like okay, so that's the first thing.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that the most packed twelve thing ever? To actually

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Speaker 1: that feels excessive to me. Yeah, yeah, on on Everybody's

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Speaker 1: I was already like, all right, well, I know that

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Speaker 1: then I'll ask my question. Well, so I've packed network

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Speaker 1: on sling Um, which is one of the few options

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Speaker 1: uh and and my assumption of the three hour special

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Speaker 1: But I was interested in hearing what some of the

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Speaker 1: like under Birds St. George. You've been to St. George, right? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cal has Nevada, Colorado has who is that a team

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Speaker 1: Oregon plays Fresno State, Oregon State plays per Due. Stanford

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00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: that's money. Yeah, Colorado. Colorado on the road is the

431
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: one where you're like, but it's early enough in the year. Yeah,

432
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: you're changing my mind on this. USC has a really

433
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: favorable schedule. It's not Oregon level favorable. Whoa, whoa, We'll

434
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: we'll get to the Favorita boys, all right. So U

435
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: c l A schedule is not bad either. They don't

436
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: have any weekday games. They play L s U in Hawaii,

437
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: and then they get a bye after L. S U,

438
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: which is favorable. But then uh, then they get Fresno State.

439
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: Then they have three Oh actually that's a little rough,

440
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: rough stretch after a Fresno State game because they play

441
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: friends No State at home, Stanford on the road, A

442
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: s U at home, Arizona away, Washington away, come back

443
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: with Oregon at home, and then Utah away, and then

444
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: but then they get another by. So actually that's about

445
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: about as good as good as you can get, right

446
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: like in terms of because they do have two buys. Yeah,

447
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: they have two buys. Um, they don't have to go

448
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: to the Cold and Boulder. They get to host um

449
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: and and uh yeah, so I think the toughest stretch

450
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: for U c l A is actually having Washington Oregon

451
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: back to back UM and then followed by Utah immediately,

452
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: so they have I think they have that really hard

453
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: three games stretch. UM. But if I'm U c l A,

454
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I look at this and I feel pretty good about it.

455
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, especially comparatively if you look at like what

456
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: happened to Stanford UH, Stanford getting their third home game

457
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: UH on October thirty. But isn't this sum of Stanford's

458
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: fault though, in that in that they scheduled Kansas State

459
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: at a neutral site and they scandul Vanderbilt away like

460
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: you don't get a note, so they only have well,

461
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: they well they get Notre Dame at home too, but

462
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: teams typically try to get a seventh home game, but

463
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: instead they have six home games and six away games.

464
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a very Stanford like thing

465
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: to do, and it doesn't make sense. Yeah, so five

466
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: of their first seven are away from home, and the

467
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: ones they do have at Homer U c l A.

468
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: And Oregon before they go into the by then they

469
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: get Washington and you take at home with the Utah

470
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: games on a Friday, and then they gotta go to

471
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: Corvallis host Cal and then they're at Notre Dame, and

472
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't know, it could wear on them.

473
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the team that practiced in a

474
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: park or whatever. And someone did point out to me

475
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: that in Ford students don't actually really start until um

476
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: school until September, so there wouldn't be a ton of

477
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: round to go to these home games if they did

478
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: plan on showing up to the games in the first place. Um.

479
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: But I still I feel like I feel like Stanford

480
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 1: schedule above all else, especially when you look at the

481
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: fact that they don't get their third home game until October,

482
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: you kind of it leaves you scratching your head a

483
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: little bit. Absolutely. And that Friday night game, so they

484
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: go Friday night, Well there their second Friday night game.

485
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Actually Stanford goes U say l A Oregon

486
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: at home. Then they after Oregon they play Friday night.

487
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: That's whack on the road on Friday night on the

488
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: road after Oregon. Yeah, alright, alright, Um, David Sean gets

489
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: to be bad about that for sure. Absolutely. Okay, let's

490
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: look at the Washington schedule. Okay, what do you think

491
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: about their their schedule? They go Montana miss again away,

492
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: Arkansas State at home, cal led home organ State on

493
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the road. Then then they get a by. That's a

494
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: very comfortable beginning of this STREP season. If they can

495
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: beat Michigan on the road, there's a pretty good chance

496
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: they can. They have the ability to go into their

497
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: by at five. And oh, uh, Montana is a good

498
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: FCS team, they do not have the talent to compete

499
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: with Washington. Arkansas State is breaking in a brand new

500
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: head coach, I believe because their head coach went to

501
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Utah State UM and then being able to play cat

502
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: and cal has uh given them fits. But they do

503
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: get that game at home, and this time there should

504
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: be fans and so uh and I think that's a

505
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: winnable game on the road at Corballace. There's a possibility

506
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Speaker 1: that Washington goes into the buy at five and oh,

507
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: if I'm a Washington fan, I would expect to be

508
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: no worse than four and one headed into that by.

509
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: And then you kind of get to regroup and you

510
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: see that there's definitely some winnable games there. Um. Would

511
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: it be completely out of the realm of possibility, George,

512
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: for Washington to be entering uh playing the Oregon at

513
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: home undefeated. It's possible right. I mean, it's it's possible.

514
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: But how about that stretch after the bye U c

515
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: l A at home, Friday night at Arizona, Stanford away,

516
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: and then come back with Oregon. I think that Washington

517
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: fans are going to be upset about that. Yeah, they're

518
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: probably gonna like that two games in uh two two

519
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: games UM on the road and then having to play Oregon.

520
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: And you know, conversely, UM, Oregon has a home game

521
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: against Colorado the seven regular seven days off before Washington,

522
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: and so I think if if, if, they're making it

523
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: a thing of comparison, and they're probably not gonna like

524
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: that too much. But I think the overall the schedule

525
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: works out pretty well for Washington. I do think that

526
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: it's a tough one, um, but I mean they their

527
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: road games at Tucson, at Palo Alto, and at Boulder,

528
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: especially in the second half of the season, those are

529
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: all winnable games. I think the majority of Washington's tougher games,

530
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: outside of playing against Michigan, are gonna be at home,

531
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: and that's ah could be a big advantage for them,

532
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: so long as we have fans back in the stands. Yeah, yeah,

533
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: I think that that that's the caveat right, Um, the

534
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: thing that they're not gonna be Um, yeah, that little

535
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: stretch at the end because they always complain about when

536
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: they play Oregon and what Oregon had to play before them,

537
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: because I think Oregon schedule is probably, aside from USC,

538
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: the second most cushiest in the conference. Now it's number one.

539
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: What you like be the number one? George? Just take

540
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: it Oregon number one. You got you got a non

541
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: con outside of Ohio State against Nevada and Fresno State,

542
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: but you get them both at home. No, no, no, no,

543
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: it's not Nevada. Oh that's right, it's Stone So you're right. No,

544
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: you're right. It is tougher if you're Oregon because you

545
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: have to play Stony Brook UM, which I just learned

546
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: that they had football. Uh, they're really good in baseball.

547
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: They have a National champions tip. Okay, okay, I don't

548
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: know what that has to do with this, but I

549
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: feel you. Um okay, So, what have been some of

550
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: the issues for UM University of Oregon in previous years

551
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: visiting Arizona? Right, they don't They don't even play Arizona

552
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: State at all, So you don't have Arizona State on

553
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: your schedule, and you don't have to go to Tucson. Uh.

554
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: You have a bye week before the CAL game, and

555
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: you get to play that at home. And then but

556
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: it is on a Friday. It is on a Friday,

557
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: but got the bye week before, so you get thirteen

558
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: days to prepare for CAL at home and then eight

559
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: days to go on the road to play U C.

560
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: L A. Then you don't have to go to Boulder.

561
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: You get the Buffaloes in Eugene. That's huge, and it's

562
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: a little bit softer of a pre rivalry week game

563
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: than I think Washington has UH leading to going into

564
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: play at Seattle. I think playing at Seattle is probably

565
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: the toughest thing I see about this about this schedule,

566
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: because then you get Washington stayed at home and then Utah.

567
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: Utah schedules fairly brutal, um, especially considering the fact that

568
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: they have a road game at Palo Alto and at

569
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Tucson before they have to turn around and and host

570
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: UH Oregon. I think by that point in the season, Um,

571
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: let's see, because Utah's by comes pretty early, so by

572
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: the time they play Oregon, they played five weeks in

573
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, so yeah, they play Weaver State at

574
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Speaker 1: b y U at San Diego State home for Washington State,

575
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: bye week at USC home for Arizona State. Yeah, Utah

576
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: has to go to so call twice. They're not for

577
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: some reason, they're not good there. No no, no no, no,

578
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: no no. They only go once. They got San Diego

579
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: State on the jeez see you can and for some

580
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: reason the PAC twelf is not learned. Just please stop

581
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: scheduling the Aztecs. Neither bring San Diego State into the

582
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: conference or just leave them alone. Yep. And then they

583
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: go Arizona State, Oregon State away U c l A

584
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: at home. And here here's the stretch that Utah fans

585
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: are gonna be like really really back to them. So

586
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: they play u c l A at home, then they

587
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: play yes at Stanford on a short week, and then

588
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: because they play Friday, and then at Arizona State and

589
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: then against Oregon and then on on a short week

590
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: against Colorado the week after that, for you, buddy, And

591
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: that's their seventh game in a row, yes, without a buy. Yeah. No,

592
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Utah schedule is impressive. I mean they never No, that's

593
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: eight games in a row at the at Colorado on

594
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: short with two of those games on short risks, including

595
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: one quote unquote rival and we keep trying to make

596
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Colorado Utah rivalry, but if we're being honest, it's uh.

597
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: The real Utah rivalry is probably a s U B

598
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: YU for sure, But in conference it's starting to seem

599
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: more and more. Um, it seems like there's more passion

600
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: uh involved in the Arizona State game than there isn't

601
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: the Colorado game. Okay, so now how are you feeling?

602
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: I do you really believe that Oregon at the easiest schedule.

603
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: I do not that any of this is easy, but

604
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to go to the state of Arizona,

605
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: and that's been a huge problem for them. Their Friday

606
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: game comes after a bye h and I honestly like

607
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: the toughest thing on here to me seems to be

608
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: the Utah road game. But then if you look at

609
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: what Utah is going through when when Oregon is set

610
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: to show up in Salt Lake City, that looks much

611
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: more advantageous than just if you say, hey, we got

612
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 1: Utah on the road in late November. It's not gonna

613
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: be easy for Oregon by any means. But if Oregon

614
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: has established a running game, then they have a really

615
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: good shot. UM to this schedule sets up well for Oregon.

616
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: There's a couple of schools on here that I feel

617
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: like could probably make some excuses for the lumps that

618
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: they might take, which is UM having back to back

619
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest games four UM for Arizona State. I absolutely

620
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: hate that those coming in November, UM, because even if

621
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: they do find a way to beat USC, then you

622
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: gotta stay up to go to Seattle the very next week. UM.

623
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: But I do feel I do feel that way. I

624
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: feel like, UM, I also really like Oregon State schedule,

625
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: but then you have to factor in the talent level

626
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: that Oregon State has and the fact that none of

627
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: these are going to be easy UM by any means.

628
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: But they do get to home games in November against

629
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: Washington State in Utah UM or I'm sorry, against Stanford

630
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona State, and I feel like that UM that

631
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: could give them the ability to get some late season

632
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: wins that have really escaped them in previous years. Okay,

633
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: so who do you? Okay, so we we went over

634
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: who we think has the easiest schedule. You think it's

635
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: Oregon and USC. Right, the USC has grown on me

636
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: as one of the easier ones. Yes, you talked me

637
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: into it for sure. So did the conference do a

638
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: good job overall with this schedule? Yeah? I mean the

639
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: probably probably the only thing that bothers me is this

640
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: is the typical stuff, right, like short a couple of

641
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: short notice Friday games on the road that people have,

642
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: like Utah at Stanford. Um, let's see what we can

643
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: find another one, Colorado at Utah. Um. Uh, University of

644
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Arizona goes to Pullman on six days rest after hosting

645
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: the Utes. Uh. Yeah, that type of stuff is always

646
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: super annoying. At least Washington State follows up their UM

647
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: Friday game hosting University of Arizona with a Friday game

648
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: UM going to Seattle, so at least they get the

649
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: full rest in between their travel game. Um. But even

650
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Stanford has a short rest um at a s U,

651
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: which you know, it's just the short rest. Fridays and

652
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: Fridays in general are absolutely terrible. Thursday night games are

653
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: just beyond stupid. And we only have a couple of those.

654
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: It looks like a SU Southern Utah and Weaber State

655
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: Utah or Thursday games. Yeah. See okay, if I count

656
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: it correctly, there are fifteen midweek games out of the

657
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three total games, So you've got more

658
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: than ten of the games that are on week weekdays,

659
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: which which everybody knows that we that we hate, hate

660
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: so so much. But that notwithstanding, because that's the TV

661
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: contract that they're in right now, there's not a new

662
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: commissioner yet, so we we can't even gripe about that

663
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: because it is what it is at this point. Um,

664
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I wonder how many of these games are then gonna

665
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: be nine am games. And overall, I think the conference

666
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: did a good job because it made sure it protected

667
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: its biggest brands in usc U, c l A, and

668
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Oregon that that it didn't put Oregon is the only

669
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: one that that even had out of those three that

670
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: even has a weekday game. Uh, they are going to

671
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, they have marquee games. These are your best teams,

672
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: your most visible brands, and those are the teams that

673
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: should get the more favorable schedules, I believe the same

674
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: way that the SEC does. I'm sorry, but every year,

675
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: and those are the teams that project to be the

676
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: best as well. If you if it were Washington that

677
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: have been recruiting like Oregon and had won to back

678
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: twelve championship back to back years. I would say that

679
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: they should lean toward having it the more favorable schedule.

680
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I I because if you're projected to be better, that

681
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: means that the conference overall is gonna look look better.

682
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: So from this, do you believe that there are any

683
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: teams that have a chance to win the that get

684
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to the playoff? B y U has a are we

685
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: are we covering b YU this year? What is going on?

686
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Just gonna be a pack thirteen year five games? I

687
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: mean we gotta consider it. Yeah, all right, So so look,

688
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: I think that okay, here, here will be the deal.

689
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: There are b y U plays the Pack twelve in

690
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Week one against Arizona, Week two at Utah, Week three

691
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: at Arizona State. If they go three and oh, they're

692
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: they're in the Pack twelve. They are part of the

693
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: pack twelve. Apostles, do you do do you think that

694
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 1: we should for this season? If they go three and oh, okay,

695
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: so we got conditional inclusion. I mean we're gonna know

696
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: a ton about this team anyway, because there just always

697
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: around um. But yeah, if they go three, if they

698
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: go three and oh, I think we have to make

699
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: him an honorary member for the rest of the season.

700
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: We have to consider them playing and if they go

701
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: five and oh they belong in the Pac twelve Championship. Yes,

702
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: and we we even talked about the potential for including

703
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: Hawaii last year. Remember, but then Hawaii did not win

704
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: that third game to be able to be included. So

705
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: and they didn't get to play that first game at Tucson,

706
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: which I was super excited about Todd Graham re uh

707
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: re emerging in Tucson um for a weird version of

708
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: the of the Territorial Cup. Uh. Yeah, I'm I'm so

709
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy that Hawaii is actually included in all of

710
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: this and we get to kick the season off um

711
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: seeing a former Pack twelve head coach in Todd Graham

712
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: make the trip out to l A. Uh that that

713
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: might be uh, I mean you're probably gonna be there,

714
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: right probably? Oh yeah? Oh yeah. It's it's a zero

715
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: week game, absolutely and the less my kids plan, I

716
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: will be there. Is it a Friday? Is it? Is

717
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: it Friday game? It's not. It's a Saturday game. So

718
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: it's a Saturday game. Yeah, so I will likely be there. Um.

719
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: The next thing up though, Oh, well, you didn't answer

720
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: the question. Do any of the teams have a chance

721
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs? Um, I am, I'm You're gonna

722
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: be calling me a hater all year long. I have

723
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: a lot of doubts and questions about the Oregon Ducks

724
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: because Tyler Shugg left. I get it. No, No, I

725
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: have the same I'd have the same questions. I'd have

726
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: the same questions because I watched them play last year.

727
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: Here's my deal. They for as much as a back

728
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: and forth as you and I had all year long

729
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: about their running back situation and whether Die was any

730
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: good or not. That shouldn't be what they're doing. Say

731
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't good, I said, he's not elite. No, it's

732
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: not even say it's not even a fact that he's

733
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: short and small and doesn't break tackles. It's the fact

734
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: that he's not special. He's a he's a good running back,

735
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: he's a decent running back, but he's just not a

736
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: game breaker. I do think this c J. Verdell is

737
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: a better back. Okay, show me too. And if c J.

738
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Verdell and is not going to be a featured part

739
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: of the offense, I have serious questions about he will

740
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: be featured. He was just hurt this last year like

741
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: that was the that was why we saw very little

742
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: of him, and they were trying to play him some

743
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: so he could leave, but that didn't work out. Um.

744
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: I think that Washington has a chance to make the playoffs.

745
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they're good and of too, but I

746
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: think their schedule sets up if they beat Michigan, beat

747
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: Oregon and only lose one game to not either Montana

748
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: or Arkansas State, and that that they'll make the playoffs

749
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: at twelve, at twelve and one with a Pack twelve championship.

750
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: I think that Oregon is gonna have enough juice if

751
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: they if they beat Ohio State, even if they lose

752
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: a Pack twelve game, they will be in the playoffs.

753
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: And USC if they beat Notre Dame b y U

754
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: and only lose and let's say they lose to U C.

755
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: L A or Arizona State, they will be fine. I

756
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: think for the playoffs. I think that those are the

757
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: four teams. Oh no, I'm sorry, the three teams that

758
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: have a shot to win to to make the playoffs. Obviously,

759
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: you would have to include U C l A in

760
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: that conversation. If they beat USC. I'm sorry. If they

761
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: beat l s U, I don't think that they're good

762
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: enough to do it. I think that their schedule and

763
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: there they have enough brand recognition if those things happen

764
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: that they would get in. All right, I got a

765
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: super dark horse for you, and I want to see

766
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: if you can guess it before I say it. Arizona State, No,

767
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, all things come back to Arizona State or

768
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: or who is who is the Arizona because all things

769
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: come back to you for the state of Arizona. Well,

770
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: it's making about Arizona State. I think that there's a

771
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: legitimate chance for Washington State to be eight and oh

772
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: going into their game in Tempe. If Quart is the

773
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: real deal, if he is the real Jtano is not

774
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: the real deal, we saw him not passing. I mean,

775
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: granted he will be in a whole different system, but

776
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: who's the j it Jaden, the Laura isn't gonna start anyway.

777
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: You're you're you would love for that to be the case.

778
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: I would love for that to be the case, and

779
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: I hope that he does. I hope that he does,

780
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: and I think that he would give them a better

781
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: chance to win in that offense. What I'm saying is,

782
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: can you tell me that it's not outside the realm

783
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: of possibility when you look at their early schedule, if

784
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: they find a way to upset USC, that they could

785
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: go into the game against Arizona State being eight and no, no,

786
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: no chance, who they're gonna lose, that they can. They

787
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: can legitimately, aside from Portland's State and Utah State because

788
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: they just lost the coach, they love their down players.

789
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: Aside from those two games, they can literally lose every

790
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: single week. I mean like it's it's a it's a

791
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: pick them game except for against USC. Who will be favorite,

792
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: Cal might be favorite, Stanford will likely be be favorite.

793
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna sneak by all of those games. It's

794
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: not happening. So so that's the reason why I don't

795
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: know who it will be. But somebody's beating it might

796
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: even be Organized State. They're not skating by their first

797
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: eight games undefeated. Every single year I make a bold prediction,

798
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: and every single year I get close. You gotta admit

799
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: that I get close. And my prediction this year is

800
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: that Washington State is gonna flirt with nine wins, which

801
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: to me would make them a dark horse contender if

802
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: they can flip a couple of the ones that I

803
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna lose to do something really special.

804
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: All right, okay, well my dark horse to win this

805
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: because you need to stay away from picking the North

806
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: as we know it's fair. But this year, though, I

807
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: promise you, I'm going to demolish you in the pickums.

808
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I have I have resolved myself. Would

809
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: you consider so if if you beat me by the

810
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: margin that I beat you past year, would you consider

811
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: that demolishing. I have no recollection of the events in

812
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: question because it was a pandemic year. Okay, okay, So

813
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: the next thing up our our reviews. We had some

814
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: new reviews. Do you have him up? No? But I

815
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: can get him out. I didn't realize people still listen

816
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: to this show. That's exciting. What are you talking about, dude?

817
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: This is the most popular Pack twelve podcast period, right?

818
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: I know, but I just thought this whole thing was

819
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: an excuse for me and you to hang out. All right,

820
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Let's see we got I got, I got iTunes pulled up,

821
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: I got a few shows that I listened to and

822
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: Packed twelve. Do you believe I listened to the show.

823
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: George actually go back and I led him to it.

824
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: I never do that with anything else that I'm on,

825
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: but I it also helps me remember what we talked about. Okay,

826
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: so we got it looks like we got a few.

827
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: Um let let's go with uh Chuck is the title

828
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: of the review. Because you have me reading it, I'm

829
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: gonna pronounce it correctly. Um. And it's from five underscore

830
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: zero underscore three, which I believe is an area code

831
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: for or correct. Yeah. Okay, um greatly and and Eugene

832
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: as well. All right, great listen. If you're a Pack

833
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: twelve fan, kind of surprised to see Tyler Chuck, transfer

834
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: wish him the best, although I do believe the Ducks

835
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: quarterback situation will be fine going forward. Do you guys

836
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: have any guesses as to where he will land that

837
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that or where you would like to

838
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: see him land. I definitely still think he can be

839
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: a solid quarterback. Let's get into that. Georgia, how do

840
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: you how do you feel about him going to Lubbock,

841
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: Texas to catch off guard. I think it surprised me. Um.

842
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought was, oh my god, if

843
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: he's a super senior and he's still there. He'll get

844
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: to play against Oregon. That was your first thought. We

845
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: were on the phone when it happened, and you were like,

846
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: I think they played. Yeah, so I wouldn't I wouldn't

847
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: mind that at all. I wish the kid well. I

848
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: think that he needed a reset. He's still very talented.

849
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: If he can fix his contact courage, this will be

850
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. UM. Texas Tech has a quarterback that

851
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: I think I really like Bowman. And they have Bowman

852
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: and the other kid. I forgot his name. Let me

853
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: see if I can. Um. Yeah, I know Alan Bowman.

854
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: But they they had gotten another maybe he played last year,

855
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: maybe he transferred. They had gotten a kid that I

856
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: thought would be really perfect in the offense that they

857
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: had before they made a coaching change. And I don't

858
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: it's so hard to keep tracking these quarterbacks, George that

859
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: they're bouncing everywhere all the time. UM. Sunny Cumby, I

860
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: think is a is an interesting person to be under

861
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: because he ran the air raid system. I think under

862
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Mike Leech at Texas Tech. And I don't know if

863
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: I see Tyler Shuck being more of the traditional air

864
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: raid guy. Um I don't know, maybe you feel differently.

865
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: They have a Utah State transfer Henry Columbi, Um Maverick mgivor.

866
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: That's him, red shirt freshman Maverick mgiver. I love this kid.

867
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: I think that I think that he deserves a legitimate

868
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: shot to be the starter there. They also have a

869
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: freshman out of the Las Vegas named Donovan Smith, but

870
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: Maverick mcgivor, I think um is is the guy that

871
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: UH that I'm interested to see what he can do.

872
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: They also have Brylon Laws and young Um who is

873
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: from Dodge City Community College, but I guess originally h

874
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: from Lubbock, Texas. So you got you got a hometown

875
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: element there. UM. And then you have I think a

876
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: walk on a couple of walk ons in Parker McNeil

877
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: and Baron more Moreton. UM, I don't know, it's gonna

878
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because they wouldn't bring him in

879
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: if they didn't believe that he had the ability to

880
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: come in and start right away. Maybe don't like this

881
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: mc ivor kid as much as I do, But UM,

882
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how he'll fit in

883
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: the offense. UM, it's definitely an interesting city in college town.

884
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: With him already having two degrees, he's gonna be uh,

885
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the resident old man on campus. UM.

886
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I it continues the tradition of Arizona quarterbacks being in

887
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. He's gonna have Spencer Rattler on his schedule,

888
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna have um Brock Party on his schedule. And

889
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: then he's gonna I mean, he's gonna have to prove

890
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: himself against University of Texas as well. If he doesn't

891
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: grab that starting job right away, then I think that

892
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: it would probably have been a mistake. But I will

893
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: say he had plenty of options. I think he had

894
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: something like sixteen offers to transfer UM within the first

895
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: couple of hours of announcing that he was leaving University

896
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: of Oregon. And so I did think that this was

897
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: a really interesting pick and I am fascinated to see

898
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: how it works out. I do not think he'll be

899
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: there three years from now, though, yeah, I doubt he

900
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: will as well, because if he's there three years from

901
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: now to means he didn't play as well as or

902
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: or or he got injured, you know, it would be

903
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: some not positive results that would have resulted in this.

904
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: Um okay, so I think we got one more review. Yes,

905
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: we do check that one. Thank you five O three

906
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: for the review, by the way, and I wanted to yes,

907
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: that's not the area code for Eugene. It's five four one.

908
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking. Portland's five o

909
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: three alright. Uh, scrot duck, and I'm gonna assume that

910
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: scrot is a a reference to, not a scrot them. Uh.

911
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: Pure entertainment exclamation point is the title of this review.

912
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: This is also a five star review, um uh, and

913
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: it is our fiftieth overall rating. So congratulations to scrot duck. Uh,

914
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: he says, Hey, it's Bobby from Tampa. Every day I

915
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: refreshed my list of podcasts waiting for a new episode

916
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: of The Pack twelve Apostles to pop up, and when

917
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: it does, I am never disappointed. Not only are George

918
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: and Ralph articulate and knowledgeable, but the way Ralph deeply

919
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: explains things on such a simple and hilarious level it's

920
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: worth listening to just for the last Okay, I've gotta

921
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: know you gotta amend this this for and I amn't

922
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: finished reading it yet. But simple can be convenient and

923
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: it can be like simple Jack Simple. So I'm gonna

924
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: need you to amend the reviews so that I know

925
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: what you mean. He's he's saying that you explain things

926
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: in a very simple yet complicated manner like that. And

927
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I like about listening to

928
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: you is that you have really good analogies, and I

929
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: appreciate them. Okay, I just i've I was wondering if

930
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: we were going to simple Jack rowd that's all. That's all.

931
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to a Ben Stiller. Um, okay, uh, it's

932
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: worth listening to just for the last I also love

933
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: when George could really care less about a comment or

934
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: idea and he says, that's a thought. Okay, we're gonna

935
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: get into that in a second. As soon as I

936
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: finished this review, we're gonna get into that that phrase

937
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: that you use because I hate it so much, so

938
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: let me let me go back. I also love when

939
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: George could really care less about a comment or I

940
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: t and he says, quote, that's a thought, unquote and

941
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: then moves on to the next topic. Ha ha ha.

942
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome commentary in my opinion. Anyway, keep up the

943
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: awesome work informing the listeners about the pact. Well, hopefully

944
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: one day we will rise from the depths of despair.

945
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: Five star podcasts all day long and hashtag go Ducks.

946
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: Little listener Bobby from Tampa. Okay, So, first thing, Bobby, incredible,

947
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: thank you for being our fifties review. Really appreciate you. Second,

948
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: let's get into this phrase, because I don't know if

949
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: we've talked about it on this podcast that you and

950
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: I have actually had a discussion on how odd that

951
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: phrase hits me because there's nowhere you can when you

952
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: say that's a thought, I can't play off that like

953
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, I thank you for your brain work,

954
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: but I'm not processing this information. Let's move on. It's

955
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: so dismissive. I didn't even realize that at first. I

956
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: did you even know you were doing it? No, No,

957
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know I did it to you. I realized

958
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: that I did it to a guy do on Fox

959
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Sports Radio with Damn Dan Buyer because I said it

960
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: and Dan was like, whoa, whoa, that was cold blooded, buddy.

961
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know whether that ingrained it more in

962
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: my repertoire, but the first time you hit me with

963
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: with it, I don't know if we were on recording

964
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: anything or not, but I like think my response was like,

965
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: is it what? That's a cool review because that's a

966
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: that is definitely a thing that we have talked about

967
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: off air. Yeah, dude, Yeah, and we we were just

968
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: talking about it the other day, which made it even better.

969
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, So if you guys want to borrow the

970
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: phrase occasionally, you know, but but you you have to

971
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: make it count when you do. It's a conversation ender. Uh,

972
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: that's a thought, all right. So um, now onto the

973
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: recruiting dead period. So the recruiting dead period has been

974
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: moved back, and so um players can't take official visits

975
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: right now, and and even from the two class because

976
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: and that's notable because you have two PAC twelve teams

977
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: technically still in on recruit in j T to him

978
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: allow and he's the number one, number two, number three

979
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: no matter what site you look at, player in the nation.

980
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: And Ralph wondered if that if the lack of hey, well,

981
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: the recruiting dead period being move back so then they

982
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: can't take visits, if that would help the Pack twelve

983
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: recruit And I'm okay, I'm hopeful that it will because

984
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: kids may not want to go places site unseen, especially

985
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: if they see some other kids transfer, you know what

986
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they may be willing to say uh nah, man,

987
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: I thought that uh. I thought that Carl was gonna

988
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: be cool, but nah, he came back home. So I'm

989
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna consider not leaving as well. So I think it

990
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: may but I also understand it it may be wishful

991
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: thinking as well. Yeah. Um, so the narrative in my

992
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: mind makes sense. You did just have key on Grace

993
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: take a visit to Columbus and commit um too, you know.

994
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: And so I think for some of these kids, having

995
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: to be around their families twenty four hours a day

996
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: might actually drive them to the far reaches of the earth. Um.

997
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: I think if if IF college football, if if n

998
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: C double A college football expanded itself out in the

999
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: Nova Scotia and Greenland and Iceland, I think you might

1000
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: actually see some California recruits end up out there, just

1001
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: based on the fact that they need to put some

1002
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: distance between themselves and their families after the after the

1003
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: last three hundred and sixty days or so. Um. And

1004
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: that's understandable. But for everybody else and a lot of

1005
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: the parents I've talked to UM the idea of because

1006
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot so a lot of these parents have actually

1007
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: gone quite a long time without seeing their own parents. Right.

1008
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend who lives in San

1009
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: Diego who has an eighteen month old son, and his

1010
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: dad lives in West Virginia, and he's never met his kid,

1011
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: and they're very close, very close, And so I think

1012
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: we're also kind of redefining the importance of some of

1013
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: these um some of these relationships. And so it's very

1014
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: possible that the flood of kids that you see come

1015
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: out of Washington, Oregon, UM, California, and Arizona into Big

1016
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: twelve country, Big ten Country, and even the SEC on

1017
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: occasion might slow down a little bit, especially when you're

1018
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: talking about some of the three star recruits who had

1019
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: started that process. And then the argument against that is

1020
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: you see a school like Arizona State has actually had

1021
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: an easier time landing kids out of the state of

1022
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: Florida UM than than they ever had. They then they've

1023
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: even been recruiting in North Carolina and Virginia as well,

1024
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: I believe, and may and I think they whether they

1025
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: dropped him or not, I can't remember, but they had

1026
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: even gotten a kid in New York and so, um,

1027
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: it could go one way or the other. I guess

1028
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: it just depends on the family and their value system

1029
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: and what they're looking for. But I will tell you

1030
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: that the conversation has really shifted. The conversations I'm happening

1031
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: with parents have really shifted to them prioritizing at least

1032
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: a couple of the schools on the list being ones

1033
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: that they'll have the ability to to visit. Um, you're

1034
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: also running into an interesting situation with the transfer portal,

1035
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: in which you have more parents than ever keeping lines

1036
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: of communication open. Coaches you would typically break off because

1037
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: after one year at a school you might end up

1038
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: at at your second choice. Yeah. Yeah, And so it's

1039
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: important for parents and those kids to keep those lines

1040
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: of communication open. So hopefully it does impact the pactual

1041
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: in a in a positive way, because we need as

1042
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: much help recruiting as we can get at this point

1043
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: in time, because you can't just have Oregon and USC

1044
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: in the top ten. How was your how was your

1045
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: perspective shift that as a parent of of a prospect

1046
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: who's still a couple of years away, But how is

1047
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: your perspective shift just going through this pandemic. Did it?

1048
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: Did it put you in a situation of saying, like, okay,

1049
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: like it. I'm looking at uh, the idea of accessibility,

1050
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: UM a little bit differently than I was before. Ah, okay,

1051
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: my kids. So honestly, I haven't put a lot of

1052
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: thought into it. If if he were three, I would

1053
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: probably be considering that more because I was like, Oh,

1054
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: hold up, what if what if this thing flares up?

1055
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: What if something else happens? So but I am considering,

1056
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: all right, just in an off chance, what if something

1057
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: does happen, like what if there's some other type of emergency,

1058
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 1: Like I want my kid closer to me, So I

1059
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: believe that my kid will stay on the West Coast.

1060
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make his decision for him, but I

1061
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: think the most likely places for him, if I were

1062
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: to guess right now, provided he gets offers to to

1063
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: these places, you know, I mean, like, like, let's let's

1064
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: just say all twelve twelve schools offering at this point

1065
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: in time. I think that he would choose to go

1066
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: to Oregon, because I because that's what he's always talked about.

1067
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: But aside from that, I think that his most likely

1068
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: choices like the thing that he would choose would be

1069
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 1: Oregon probably first, U c. L A second, and Stanford third,

1070
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: provided he had all twelve pack twelve offers and they

1071
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: were all equal situations for for him. That would be

1072
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: the order of the schools that that he would choose

1073
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: at today. That may change two years from now. But

1074
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: he would not go to Washington, He would not go

1075
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: to Corvallis. He would not go to Tucson, even though

1076
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: I almost went to Tucson. I liked it there, but

1077
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: uh but yeah, so like that's where he would be

1078
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: at this point. Um speaking of Tucson. In Arizona though,

1079
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: a player who I remember. I think we either went

1080
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: on our recruiting trip together, or I met him while

1081
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: I was on my recruiting trip to Arizona or when

1082
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I was in high school. I don't I don't remember

1083
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: where I met Bobby Wade at but he was a

1084
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: really good receiver for the Arizona Wildcats. I would say

1085
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: he was one of their better receivers in the last

1086
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: twenty years. Like him, and right before that, you would

1087
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: have to say, like Dennis north cut, Um, yeah, like

1088
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: he he would probably be the second would you say,

1089
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: is the second best Arizona wide receiver behind Dennis north

1090
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: Cut in the last like twenty five years. He's up there.

1091
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: He's up there, and he's kind of like a combo

1092
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: guy like you're Christian Kirker, speedy Oil, does a little

1093
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: bit everything, a lot of special teams. Um, they've certainly

1094
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: had some good players. I think they think they have

1095
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: a receiver with the forty Niners right now. Um, they

1096
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: got Ah, they got an athlete who rivals him. Just

1097
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: as far as ability, we haven't really seen it yet,

1098
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: but they got Jabari Joyner down there. Um. But as

1099
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: far as like production and then going on to have

1100
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: an eight nine year NFL career, Um, it's hard to

1101
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to put a whole lot of people above

1102
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: Bobby Wade. And then, um, you're also talking to me

1103
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: who thinks that Bobby Wade is the greatest high school

1104
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: football player I've ever seen. So, Um, I'm definitely somebody

1105
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: who is not objective when it comes to Bobby Wade

1106
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: because he was a senior in high school when I

1107
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: was a freshman in high school, when I first started

1108
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: to get into into prep football and just loving um,

1109
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: the environment and the Friday nights and everything like that

1110
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: he was the best player on the planet. Um. And

1111
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: you know the planet being like the Phoenix metro area

1112
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: that I lived in at the time. And uh, And

1113
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: people might say like, oh, yeah, well not a lot

1114
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: of people came out of Arizona back then, and you're

1115
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: just like limited in your mindset. Mind you. When I

1116
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: was saying that Bobby Wade was the best high school

1117
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: football player on the planet, I was teammates with Sorell Sucks,

1118
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: so like it actually like there was some level that

1119
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: Richie Incognito was out here, Ryan Fitzpatrick and a few

1120
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: other guys. UM, But to me, Bobby Wade was the guy.

1121
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: When he went down to uv A, he had a

1122
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: pretty he got in a little bit of trouble and

1123
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: he got and then he had a pretty successful career afterward,

1124
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: and then was in the NFL for for a long time.

1125
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: I think he did some he did some damage with

1126
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: the Bears from remembering correctly, and then he UM and

1127
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: then he's been helping Phoenix kids out ever since. Uh.

1128
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: And he just got his first college coaching job, and

1129
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: you would think University of Arizona would be the perfect

1130
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: place for for him to uh get on considering They've

1131
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: got this whole its personal campaign, and they're bringing in

1132
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: all these alumni um including Rob Gronkowski and Teddy Bruski

1133
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: who are gonna coach against each other in the spring game.

1134
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,959
Speaker 1: They're doing everything they can to bring in all these alumni.

1135
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: And Bobby Wade instead got a job at Arizona State.

1136
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Man? So, my best

1137
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: friend is one of the is a recruiting assistant at

1138
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: Washington State. Right right now, it feels weird. But the

1139
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: other thing is is that you you have to remember

1140
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: that their college allegiance matters. That if you gave Bobby

1141
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: Wade the offensive coordinator job at at Arizona State, would

1142
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: he take it, absolutely, But at the same time, these

1143
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: are people's careers and you have to make the best

1144
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: move for for you And ultimately would he take a

1145
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: head coaching job at Arizona Probably, But at the but

1146
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, this is this is your career,

1147
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: this is your life, and you have to make the

1148
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: best move in terms of like, didn't despite your allegiance,

1149
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: Like it's it's about your your family and your career

1150
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: at that time. Okay. Um, So with with that being said,

1151
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: Bobby Wade gave an interview to Brad Denny. And Brad

1152
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: Denny who actually listens to to this show and it

1153
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: is one of the coolest guys in the entire world. Um.

1154
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: He has a podcast out here in Arizona called Speak

1155
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: of the Devils, and he interviewed Bobby Wade. And this

1156
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: is one of the quotes that Bobby Wade gave because

1157
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about like just taking the opportunity that's

1158
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: available to you. Um, does this hurt his opportunity to

1159
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 1: maybe be UH coach on Staff and Tucson someday? He said, quote,

1160
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: what I really think ticks Wildcats off is that I'm

1161
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: picking where I want to coach, and I am picking

1162
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: Arizona State. That heats up the rivalry just a little

1163
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, I think that he's right. I think

1164
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: he's right, and I also think that you're on a

1165
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: whole another side note, because your boy Brad Denny tagged

1166
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: me in a tweet. This is a very notable tweet

1167
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: for this podcast. Reese, actually hold up. I will just

1168
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: pull it up. Okay, I will pull it up on

1169
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: on here. You continue talking about Bobby Wade. Well, I

1170
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: say he's not the only guy right, because you got

1171
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce and so um. Whereas I think Antonio Pierce

1172
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: had one year in the desert, and I think his

1173
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: allegiance to the city of Tucson isn't necessarily um at

1174
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: the level as somebody who would actually you know, have

1175
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: been a four year player there or would have a

1176
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: degree or whatever. Um. You see more than one Wildcat

1177
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: on the Arizona State coaching staff, um and and and uh,

1178
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 1: it does make you wonder like how that flavors the

1179
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: rivalry that again herm Edwards is all about the NFL model,

1180
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 1: and for Bobby Wade uh to be on that staff,

1181
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: it's probably more about his NFL experience than it is

1182
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: about um who he was in college. Although Arizona State

1183
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: is making the claim that with with a higher like

1184
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: this that they want uh some juice in local recruiting,

1185
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure even Bobby Wade can help with

1186
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: that when they have the perspective that they have as

1187
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: a school, which is cast a wide net nationally, and

1188
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: they don't do as you have stayed it time and

1189
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: time again, they don't do a good job recruiting the

1190
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: state of Arizona or put in enough effort it's not

1191
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: the priority is the more in the right way. Ralph

1192
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: just it's it's okay, but but here's the tweet. Here

1193
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: is the tweet, so everybody knows. Actually, I'm gonna we

1194
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: need to see Ralph's face when he reads the tweet

1195
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: because he's gonna see it for the first time right now. Yes,

1196
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: of forty minutes ago. I didn't bring it up when

1197
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: he first did. But here it is Reeseus, he said,

1198
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: Taylor made for George Riser. I guess REESEUS is launching

1199
01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: peanut butter cup without any chocolate boom you have. They

1200
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: get it, Reese's gets it. But this is the okay,

1201
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: time out, time out, time out, time out, because this

1202
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: is the opposite of what you would want if Reese

1203
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: has just made like a chocolate cup all chocolate. I

1204
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: thought your issue was with like sugary peanut butter, I thought,

1205
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: or is it the actual mix of the place, the

1206
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: mix of the flavors, because peanut butter and chocolate are

1207
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: horrible together. I mean like it's it's all. It is

1208
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: worse than as we've talked about. You guys can go

1209
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: back and listen. I have detailed how bad that Reese's

1210
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: peanut butter cups, Reese's pieces. Uh, Reese pieces don't even

1211
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: have chocolate. And that's what I'm saying. Reese's are terrible too. No,

1212
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: but that's the coating on the outside. It's candy coating.

1213
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: It's like eminem coating. I don't think it's chocolate. There's

1214
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: a chocolate coating on the outside. But somebody, a candy scientist,

1215
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: please settle this. There's no chocolate in a Reese's pieces.

1216
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: Reese's pieces, Reese's peanut butter cups. Uh, peanut butter Snickers

1217
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: is a way to ruin us Snickers. Um, peanut butter

1218
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: and chocolate don't go together, despite people's terrible palettes. Uh

1219
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: think thinking that it's good together. So Reese's just like

1220
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: of the population versus the No, No, it's not you

1221
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: guys just think and and we are not gonna be

1222
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: a part of your cancel culture. We're not. Who is

1223
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: we name one other person in the entire planet that

1224
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: thinks peanut butter and chocolate don't go together? Text us

1225
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: on the secret text as line, if you think that

1226
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: peanut butter and chocolate don't go together? Eight one, eight, two, nine, three, five, seven, four, seven, eight, one, eight,

1227
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: two nine three five seven four seven secret text OsO line, Yeah,

1228
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: we will have this debate, Ralph, I'm sorry, and so

1229
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: REESEUS gets it. They did the right thing, chopping that nasty.

1230
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. If you don't like

1231
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: Recy's pieces, why would you look at all peanut butter

1232
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: re Season say that's gonna be good? No, no, no no,

1233
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not excited about it. I'm just saying it's

1234
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: it's it's a huge step up from a regular Reese's piece. Then,

1235
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: so you're saying that you feel seen and acknowledged. Yes,

1236
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: I feel seen and this will probably be Reese's top

1237
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 1: selling thing of all this. Okay, outside of me not

1238
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: understanding you in this moment, I would eat the hell

1239
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: of this and I'm very excited. Hold on, but I

1240
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: do love Snickers though snick Snickers is the best candy

1241
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: candy bars. So you're cool with chocolate being mixed with nougat,

1242
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: You're cool with chocolate being mixed with caramel, and then,

1243
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: even more mind blowingly insane, you're cool chocolate being mixed

1244
01:15:55,320 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: with peanuts, just not peanut butter. Do you just not

1245
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: chew the peanuts because that's basically what makes peanut butter.

1246
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: Do you chew less when you eat a Snicker Reese's Pieces.

1247
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: Peanut butter is not the same the way that they

1248
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: coagulate that that stuff. That's not the way peanut butter is.

1249
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: Like hashtag George Rice to eats Snickers without chewing get

1250
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: a trending. Um, all right, so I just thought that

1251
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: was cool. The next thing up is, um, shut up

1252
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: bread Denny. So the Pack twelve reps, Oh, well, we're

1253
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna oh, we're going super long now. So I don't

1254
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna get get to the Pack twelve

1255
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: cities until next episode. But we could save the Pack

1256
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: tew cities. But let's let I just want your reaction

1257
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: to Larry Christo each getting no, we we weren't going

1258
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: to skip that. So Larry Christo Iak who is the

1259
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: Utah head coach, you can tell them what happened. Ralph

1260
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: uh So, Timmy all who is from the Great State

1261
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: of Arizona, Yeah, there you go. Timmy Allen, who's been

1262
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been Utah's best player for the

1263
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Kind of that. Charles Barkley undersized

1264
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: power forward body Um, he got called for a double

1265
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: dribble when Utah had the ball. UM down sixty five

1266
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: sixty four at UM Oregon on that real busy court

1267
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: they have out there in Eugene. And which is the

1268
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: best court in a pack twelve? I don't know. I

1269
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: don't know. UM, We'll leave that for a debate for

1270
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: another time. But UH, there was a loose ball and

1271
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: it looked like Timmy Ellen never had possession, which is

1272
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: pretty much the unanimous thing that everybody's saying is that

1273
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: is that Timmy Allen didn't necessarily have the ball, but

1274
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: when he was able to gather the ball when he

1275
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: went to dribble it, he was whistled for a double

1276
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: drib bowl. And that was with just a few seconds left. UM.

1277
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: And so instead of having the opportunity to to hit

1278
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: a game winner in that scenario, the ball gets turned

1279
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: over to Oregon, Utah is forced to foul. They hit

1280
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: a couple of free throws, they're up sixty seven sixty four,

1281
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: and Timmy Allen ends up missing a half court shot

1282
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: to try to tie the game. UM. Deldre Carr was

1283
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: the was the referee, UM and Larry kristo Jak was

1284
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: pretty pissed about it, and this was his postgame comment.

1285
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: He said, Wow, all I can say is wow. So

1286
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: first of all, starting off with the uh, the pretty good, Um,

1287
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: all I can say is wow, and then you continue wow.

1288
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so he UM, when you say all I

1289
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: can say is wow and then you immediately start talking

1290
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: again is one of my favorite things. He said, That's

1291
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: not all you could say, exactly. He said, we scrapped,

1292
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: We played our butts off, and it wasn't air free

1293
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: by any means. We made plenty of mistakes. Oregon made

1294
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: plenty mistakes. Dana Altman made plenty of stakes. But I

1295
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, we let the

1296
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: players determine a game to make up a call at

1297
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: the end that didn't even happen. That is mind boggling.

1298
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: And so the pack twelve reprimanded him without finding him.

1299
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: But it's the second time in two years because last year,

1300
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: seven foot four freshman Matt van Comen got a technical

1301
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: for hanging on the rim when there was a player

1302
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: underneath him. Uh and and Kristoiak snapped And when that happened, um,

1303
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: and by snapped, I mean he just said it wasn't

1304
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: the proper call. To make at the time, and I

1305
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: had no problem with the officiating. I like all those guys,

1306
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: but it was bs at the end. So um, it's

1307
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: actually pretty tame comments. But you're not allowed to comment

1308
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: on the officiating publicly at all. Uh. And we've seen

1309
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: more and more Packed twelve basketball head coaches, whether it's

1310
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: Bobby Hurlier, Sean Miller and now Larry kristo Iac repeatedly

1311
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: going after these refs despite the PAC twelve rules that

1312
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to actually comment on this stuff. So

1313
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: this is the right thing. I do not have a

1314
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: problem with the coach with Coach Christoiac commenting on this

1315
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: because he understands that the Pact twelve reaths are terrible.

1316
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: The Pact twelve like just wants to shoot you, you know,

1317
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, uh pissing, pissing the red wind and tell

1318
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: you it's raining. So I get that the conference policy

1319
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: is that you're not supposed to comment on the officials.

1320
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: But he wasn't wrong, Like, he wasn't wrong. What does

1321
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: it say that they didn't find him? That says that

1322
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: they know that he wasn't wrong publicly reprimand okay, cool,

1323
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: Like that's a that's a slap on the wrist. I

1324
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: have no problem with that. The Conference is supposed to

1325
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: do that. But finding him when you knew, when you

1326
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: know that Larry Michael Scott put you in this predicament,

1327
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: No way, Jose, I'm not in on that. Yeah. I

1328
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,839
Speaker 1: just it's I think it's becoming more and more common

1329
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: for these coaches to to speak out, and I think

1330
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: that the progressive thing for the Conference to do would

1331
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: be to remove that. UM to remove that completely, and

1332
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: just like fans just want access and they just want accountability,

1333
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: Like it would be fantastic in all leagues, not just

1334
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve if you had media access to the

1335
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: officials after the game so that they were able to

1336
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: explain what they felt they saw in the moment, and

1337
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: also that if you would open officials up to the

1338
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: idea that maybe they didn't make the right call and

1339
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: you could see that they're human. Because I think one

1340
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: of the things that UM we see the ire toward

1341
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: officials growing more and more year over year, and part

1342
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: of the reason that I think it's getting so out

1343
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: of hand, even at like the club basketball level, and

1344
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: just culturally people just hating officials and feeling like they

1345
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: can say whatever they want to them, is that that

1346
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: the accessibility of officials has never really been there, and

1347
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: I think it was set up in a way to

1348
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: sort of protect them, and I think it's had the

1349
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: opposite effect. We don't look at them as human beings

1350
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: and therefore we kind of um pop off at them

1351
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: like they are not. And so I'd like to see

1352
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: improved accessibility in all sports, but it would be cool

1353
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: with the back to I would lead the way and

1354
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: be able to say, like, hey, we have one representative

1355
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: official that you're able to um ask a few postgame

1356
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: questions of uh, and then allow the coaches to just

1357
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: express how they feel. Because if you allow the coaches

1358
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 1: to express how they feel about the officiating, then it

1359
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: won't just come when it's um, like like a tea

1360
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: kettle right, let off steam um. And I personally I

1361
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: feel like that would be more healthy. Maybe it would

1362
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: just make things ten times worse, but anything's got to

1363
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: be better than the way that we're doing things now. Yeah, yeah,

1364
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: I can agree with that. I can agree with that

1365
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: on some level because it has been an utter disaster

1366
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: what's going going on, and ultimately that that impacts how

1367
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: people view view the conference and how they view you know,

1368
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: them making the tournament. So right now, I just the

1369
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: bracketology changes from literally from day to day. And as

1370
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: we are recording right now, you have the PAC twelve

1371
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: is predicted to get four teams in the tournament. The

1372
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: highest seed that it has so far, it has USC

1373
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: as a sixth seed, U c l A as a

1374
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: nine seed, Oregon as a nine seed, and Colorado as

1375
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: a five seed. Okay, but the two teams who are

1376
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: on top of the conference standings are U c l

1377
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: A in Oregon. Maybe overall strength of schedule, this has

1378
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: been another weird season where it's kind of hard for

1379
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: me to take things seriously. Um, you know, Arizona State

1380
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: has played like what twenty one total games, whereas a

1381
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: lot of teams have played. You have, Colorado has played

1382
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: twenty six. They've been able to get most of their

1383
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: games in Washington State just canceled on on a s

1384
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: U after they were supposed to do a back to back. Um,

1385
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: you just it's been a mess. Cal has been terrible.

1386
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 1: Washington is just god awful right now. Um you toss

1387
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: surprisingly is having a real rough year. The interesting thing

1388
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: to me about the conference, and this is just outside

1389
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: of me said, first of all, I think there should

1390
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: be five teams, and I think it should be a

1391
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: toss up between Stanford Oregon State. Obviously, we'll see what

1392
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: happens in the Pact twelve tournament or if teams are

1393
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: even able to stay was as far and they were

1394
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 1: on the first four outline but then which is confusing

1395
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: to me, but well, actually they lost to Washington State,

1396
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Oregon and then Oregon State back to back to back,

1397
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: so right, so they're they're definitely in a free fall

1398
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: right now. And the weird thing about Stanford season is

1399
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: they are the only team in the entire Pack twelve

1400
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: that has not had an extreme home court advantage. Most

1401
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: of the teams in the Pack twelve, I mean, it's

1402
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: goofy every year home court advantage in basketball, but this

1403
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: year it's been completely absurd. U c l A Is

1404
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: eleven and oh at home and five and four on

1405
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: the road. USC is twelve and two at home and

1406
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: six and three on the road. The most extreme example, um, well,

1407
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: there's two Colorado's ten and one at home and six

1408
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: and six on the road, and then you have cal

1409
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: University of California one and eleven on the road, six

1410
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: and eight at home. So Stanford is really the only

1411
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 1: team in the conference, UM that isn't experiencing that huge

1412
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: swing between home and a way. Stanford's only had six

1413
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: home games all year, and they're two and four. They're

1414
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: actually playing better on the road than they are at home,

1415
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: whereas most of the and then another extreme example of

1416
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: Washington State eleven and five at home, three and six

1417
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: on the road, Utah seven and four at home, three

1418
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: and seven on the road. So I don't know what's

1419
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: going on this year that teams are just completely unable

1420
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: to play on the road, especially because there aren't fans. UM.

1421
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know what's going on. It's it's really

1422
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,839
Speaker 1: really hard for me to explain why travel is taking

1423
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: so much out of these kids at this time. UM.

1424
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: But because Stanford hasn't defended home court and really hasn't

1425
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: really had many opportunities to defend home court, UH, they

1426
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: are free falling out of this, which I think is

1427
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: opening things up for for Oregon State. UM. You know,

1428
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 1: and then you have some teams that possibly have an

1429
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: outside shot in the Pac twelve Tournament, like Utah, Arizona State.

1430
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: But I would not put my money behind either one

1431
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: of those teams right now. Yeah, I think that that

1432
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve is suffering from the same thing that

1433
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 1: the football does, is that they're not getting enough credit

1434
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: right right now, that they're not getting enough credit for

1435
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: how good the conferences overall because we only there's only

1436
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: one ranked team, correct, Yes, and it was USC and

1437
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: now it's Colorado. Okay, And this is after McKinley, right

1438
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: the fourth just got his fourth Pack twelve Player of

1439
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: the Week because he's he's been balling out for sure. Yea,

1440
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: he's the one I would like to I hate that, UM.

1441
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: I hate that Chris Smith tore his A c L

1442
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: for U c l A, and it's it's pretty fun

1443
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: to imagine what U c l A would actually be

1444
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: doing this year if they still had him on the

1445
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: court after he decided to forego his NBA dream and

1446
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: return to to U c l A. UM. I think

1447
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: that's super unfortunate, but to see what they've been able

1448
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: to do without him is pretty cool. But as far

1449
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: as just star power in the n c A Double

1450
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: A Tournament, I think what everybody's looking forward to is

1451
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: seeing the the USC Trojan Twin Tower brothers, right, um

1452
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: playing and people want to see McKinley, right, and then obviously,

1453
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, even though University of Arizona has had a

1454
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 1: decent year, then gets playing the tournament because they surrendered,

1455
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Uh that right based on um a whole bunch of

1456
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: stuff that we've gotten into on plenty of other podcasts,

1457
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: uh that they may or may not be guilty of.

1458
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, who who would you who

1459
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: do you think has the best chance to make a run?

1460
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: USC just because they're huge, dude, Like, they may be

1461
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: the biggest team in the country. So if they get

1462
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: in the tournament, I think that they that they are

1463
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: a team who can make a run. Obviously they have

1464
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: holes all of that, but they do have some veterans.

1465
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: The veteran teams typically do do better. And I don't

1466
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: think that you can discount Dana Altment because his team's

1467
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: just always played better in in February and March, like

1468
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: something something about it, Like they start slow sometimes, but

1469
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: they just crescendo as the season goes on. Yeah, I

1470
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: think I agree with you a percent. But what I

1471
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 1: want to see, um is I want to see Colorado

1472
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: make a run. That's what I'm excited about, because can

1473
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: you why do you want that as opposed to like,

1474
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: why is that your desire to see them make a

1475
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: run as opposed to anybody else? Because guard play in

1476
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: the tournament is my favorite thing. I'm not that different

1477
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: than than anybody else. And you have McKinley Wright who's

1478
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: in his fourth year at Colorado and his average fourteen thirteen,

1479
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen. He has just been consistently grinding away,

1480
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: delivering the same solid performance every single night except for

1481
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: this year. He made a jump up to what he

1482
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: was doing his sophomore. He's shooting almost fifty from the field. Um,

1483
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: he's still not a good three point shooter, but he

1484
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Um remember Jee Carson, who

1485
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: could go off for every single night, but he was

1486
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: more of a He's a sixth foarder who was six

1487
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 1: footer who really like to um get to the rim

1488
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: and then kick out. Uh yeah, I just I just

1489
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: want to see a good guard play in the tournament.

1490
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm boring like that. And I think McKinley right,

1491
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: the fourth is is our best shot to to kind

1492
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: of create a star. Uh that not a whole lot

1493
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: of other people would be would have been aware of

1494
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: outside of the outside of the Pack twelve bubble, because

1495
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Colorado hasn't really been able to kind of get over

1496
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: the hump. They've had some really good wins in the

1497
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Pack twelve over the last few years. And I think

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01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: that you know, um, they also their coaches a little

1499
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: bit honre and and the more press conferences that he

1500
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: gets uh in front of, even even if they happen

1501
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: over zoom in front of the national media, I think

1502
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: the more fun will have. Yeah, agree with you, Um,

1503
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: you got I think that's it. Yeah, Um, guys, thank

1504
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: you guys for listening to the Pack twelve. Oh oh

1505
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: my god, I forgot to say something. I read a

1506
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: tweet and I thought it was awesome, um, because they

1507
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: were talking about because one of the teams that we

1508
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: talked about not making that we didn't even mention making

1509
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the tournament is Arizona and and I think it's a

1510
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: sad state of affairs when either U C. L A

1511
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: or Arizona is not in the tournament for the PAC twelve.

1512
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a huge indictment on Sean Miller. And

1513
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a tweet read I forgot. I forgot to note who

1514
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: said it, so I apologize. Um, it said Sean Miller

1515
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: is Clay Hilton with an FBI scandal. Oh man, uh,

1516
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about that because, first of all, Clay

1517
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: Hilton is nice. I don't think anybody's accused Sean Miller

1518
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: big nice worm and and inviting as a person. Um.

1519
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: And also I don't think anybody's accused Clay Helton of

1520
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 1: being an elite recruiter like on his own. Yeah, Sean

1521
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Miller gets players. And of course I'm opening myself up today.

1522
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of players that are very

1523
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: good come through University of Arizona that I do not

1524
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: feel like he has gotten the most out of, especially

1525
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: people who aren't guards. So um, yeah, that's the I.

1526
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't see the comparison there, but it is funny.

1527
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Didn't make you laugh? Oh you guys eight one eight,

1528
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: two nine, three five seven four seven eight one. We

1529
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 1: gotta transfer, We gotta transfer right before the deadline. Jaden

1530
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: Casey cal quarterback? Who is he? Jade and Casey your boy?

1531
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: Rudy Carpenter used to to train him. I think it

1532
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: was was was he wanted a kid? Was that was

1533
01:32:52,960 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: that the kid that was? Um? Are you gonna add? So?

1534
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: My theory that his dad is the one who leaked

1535
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve coalition stuff. It was a theory. I

1536
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: can't back it up with anything, but I do know

1537
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: that Rudy was the one to break that news. And

1538
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: this is a kid that he trains and he's at

1539
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: cal Um, so the possibility exists. I don't think Rudy

1540
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: liked that I said that very much, but um, yeah,

1541
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: so you just you just had a jade and Casey

1542
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: announced that he is leaving cal which is um which

1543
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: is definitely interesting because I thought that they had four

1544
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: pretty good quarterbacks there and he's doing it right before springball. Um.

1545
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:42,520
Speaker 1: And uh. And then you also had was at kal Millen. Yeah,

1546
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Northern Arizona with Aaron Flew Grad former Oregon duck in

1547
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Arizona State Sun devil, who is a hell of an

1548
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. So assuming they get Aaron Flew Grad to

1549
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: stick around, which I highly doubt, he's going to be

1550
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: very sought after, UM, then he's gonna be really coached

1551
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 1: up there. Yea, So hopefully it will stop for him.

1552
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: You guys, thank you guys for listening to Rice or Wrong.

1553
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Rice or Wrong. Oh my god, you did

1554
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: that on right or wrong? You call it pack tell apostles.

1555
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, I was surprised that you didn't

1556
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: comment on my on my shirt today. In my defense,

1557
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I was left on supervised I did see. Um. It

1558
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: is funny in relation to the fact that your wife

1559
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: called you out on social media for the way that

1560
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: you dress your youngest son. I wasn't even the one

1561
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 1: who did it, is the funny part about it. She

1562
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 1: just accused me because that he was running around the house,

1563
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: like what what is he supposed to be wearing? They

1564
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: look like normal kid close to me. They just drool

1565
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: on him anyway, dude, No, no, no, she wants him

1566
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 1: to look like a model at all times. I okay, okay,

1567
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 1: uh wow, Messy kids are cute kids too, don't even messy.

1568
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: It looked like again, it looked like normal clote. But

1569
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: I thought the shirt was was a living subtweet of

1570
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: what your wife put on social media. That's my initial problem.

1571
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:15,759
Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys for listening to pack twalve pops.

1572
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so get you guys next week.