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Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful night here Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason

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Speaker 3: Smith tonight. Back a little later this week, so over

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Speaker 3: in the big chair alongside me virtually, of course, is

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Speaker 3: our friend, longtime NFLVET, part of Countdown on Saturday mornings

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Speaker 3: ere Fox Sports Radio Penn State feeling all.

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Speaker 4: Good about preseason predictions.

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Speaker 3: He's everywhere San Diego State football, well, maybe a bar

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Speaker 3: at eight o'clock in the morning for his morning show,

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Speaker 3: He's Rich Ornberger and Ornberger's where.

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Speaker 5: You find him on Buddy. Welcome in, oh Man. Thank

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Speaker 5: you for having me. It's good to be back in

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Speaker 5: the chair and really nice. Jason's taking a little time

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Speaker 6: So let's rock it roll.

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Speaker 5: We are not in any shortage of sports topics tonight,

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Speaker 5: my friend. This has been a busy weekend, a busy

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Speaker 5: start to the week. There's a lot going on. We

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Speaker 5: got preseason football getting started this Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Life's good Hall of Fame Induction weekend on the baseball side,

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame coming up, the game between the Lions

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Speaker 3: and the Chargers, all the pomp and circumstance and pageantry

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Speaker 3: off once again, as we've done so many times here

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Speaker 3: getting chipped away at bit by bit here Rich as

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Speaker 3: we just have you heard Steve de Seger's update the

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Speaker 3: right as we're coming on air. As children right growing

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Speaker 3: But all of that to say, you know, he was

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Speaker 3: He was a guy that just dominated at the position.

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Speaker 3: He's long been battling prostate cancer and they'd made an announcement,

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Speaker 4: Can you believe this right?

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Speaker 3: Being the trading card lunatic that I am right. I

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Speaker 6: You don't. You don't really have one without the other.

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Speaker 6: He cared about his fans. Yeah, and that's that's.

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Speaker 5: Something that not a lot of baseball players, not a

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Speaker 4: Proud just absolutely gone batty, all right.

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Speaker 4: There's no question about it.

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Speaker 5: As you know, I've worked many years with Steve Hartman,

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Speaker 5: We've talked about the Samberg game more than just once,

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Speaker 6: I mean that truly may have been the.

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Speaker 6: Man, what a special time.

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Speaker 5: To watch baseball, and what an incredible job by Harry

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Speaker 3: the lovable losers, who you lose a little of that

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Speaker 3: And here is another one, and we celebrate Samberg passed

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Speaker 3: away today long complications with prostate cancer at the age

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, I appreciate the battle though, because, like

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Speaker 5: many people, I've had family members succumb to the battle.

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Speaker 6: I've had a couple overcome it, you know, And.

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Speaker 5: Man, you just root hard when you hear that diagnosis,

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Speaker 5: Many times in my own life personally, it's been breast cancer,

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Speaker 5: and you pray for those folks and their families, and

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Speaker 5: and like you said, all the way up until last week,

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Speaker 6: Reaching back out. Didn't need to do.

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Speaker 5: That, but felt obliged or honored to don't. I don't

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Speaker 7: What's going on? Gentlemen? It'll always be Twitter with me.

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Speaker 7: as a coach, And so I tend to think the

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Speaker 7: thirty years of Raiders' futility tells me this is probably

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Speaker 7: going to be pretty futile.

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Speaker 3: Jase, we talked a lot about contracts the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. When you've joined us A couple of them

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Speaker 3: still out when we look at Hendrickson, uh and Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 4: But let's go to Cowboys camp.

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Speaker 3: They averted a major catastrophe today with guitting it, but

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Speaker 3: it's still.

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Speaker 4: Six week injury to your left tackle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and and you worry about, you know, if that's

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Speaker 7: what he's like on the other side of it, if

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Speaker 7: there's any you know, if this becomes a situation where

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Speaker 7: that that knee is robbly, you're unstable. And he's got

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Speaker 7: a lot to prove to begin with, and him missing

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Speaker 7: all this these reps is not good. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 7: have good vibes about the Cowboys. I have to follow

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Speaker 7: the column for the Washington Post on them today. Honestly, Uh,

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Speaker 7: it's just the same. It's just they're checking all the

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Speaker 7: boxes they always check, you know, and all that stuff

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Speaker 7: plays at the box office and it plays on the

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Speaker 7: TV ratings, but it doesn't it doesn't play in the standings.

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Speaker 7: You know. They continually take risks all character guys because

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Speaker 7: they can get them cheaper and carry's he's the vat

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Speaker 7: the potential value and he sees how many jerseys that

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Speaker 7: guy could sell if it pans out, and this or that.

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Speaker 7: But it kind of looks like they're collection of individuals,

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Speaker 7: you know, and like they're perfect thumb unders, Like yeah,

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Speaker 7: they have enough top side, you know, high end talent

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Speaker 7: that if they get off to a fast start and

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Speaker 7: they're able to play with the lead and they can

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Speaker 7: just attack the quarterback all the time, like that's great.

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Speaker 7: But I mean this is a team that was, like

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Speaker 7: I've seen I mean just looking at them some of

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Speaker 7: the metrics like if you look at every team in

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Speaker 7: the NFL, and how many yards they allowed before before

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Speaker 7: contact against the rush and how few yards they generated

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Speaker 7: before contact when they rushed, Like it's staggering from the

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Speaker 7: metrics that fund when I dug more into their season,

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Speaker 7: like they're a bottom five offensive team on first down

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Speaker 7: and the bottom five defensive team are like I just

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Speaker 7: and I mean, where is the roster that much better?

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Speaker 7: You know? I just they got a forty five million

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Speaker 7: dollar quarterback. He makes sixty million dollars a year, Like,

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's it's going to work. The culture's work.

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Speaker 7: We got four or five guys who get overpaid and

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Speaker 7: everybody else has got to beg for scraps and listen

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Speaker 7: to Jerry rip them publicly he doesn't think they're playing

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Speaker 7: up to their contractor rip them for getting hurt, Like,

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Speaker 7: I don't think that really breeds, you know, camaraderie and

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Speaker 7: cohesiveness and selflessness. And I look at their schedule and

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Speaker 7: I look at a head coach was probably over his head,

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Speaker 7: and I say, I don't think they're gonna be frontrunner.

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Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be chasing, and they're gonna be

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Speaker 7: chasing a lot, and they're gonna be chasing even some

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Speaker 7: teams early on, like maybe the Giant, who if that

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Speaker 7: defensive front gets off, like they could muck that game up,

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Speaker 7: that could be an un game. Like, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: don't know. I don't see they're gonna be up much

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Speaker 7: better running the ball, and I don't think they can

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Speaker 7: stop the run still, So I got questions, you know,

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Speaker 7: like Evra Flues won't give up the big play, but

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Speaker 7: he gonna try to rain in Mike at all. I

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Speaker 7: don't buy them. I would play them under seven and

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Speaker 7: a half wings. Wow, I have played them on this

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Speaker 7: seven and a half points. I think it's I'll struggle.

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Speaker 6: I love the motto, the team model you gave them.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're like indelible words that are attached to franchises.

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Speaker 5: In many of them three three word monikers, you know,

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Speaker 5: the Patriot Way or the or legion of boom or

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Speaker 5: why do they move? In the case of the LA Chargers,

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Speaker 5: I know I'm using a contraction there, a cheated a

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Speaker 5: little bit, but you but collection of individuals pretty much

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Speaker 5: sums up the past quarter century for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: That is perfectly stated. Jason lockin Ford joining US Fox

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Speaker 5: Sports Radio. How about the Browns. I've heard everything from

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Speaker 5: Flacco's the day one starter, to Shador Sanders the best

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Speaker 5: quarterback we've ever seen in football pads to Kenny Pickett's

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Speaker 5: the guy but ooh the injury we don't know. And

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Speaker 5: then I've also heard all three of them are going

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Speaker 5: to be traded at different points. So who the hell

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Speaker 5: is starting the season in Cleveland Jason Flacco?

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Speaker 7: And I think they're keeping him under the bubble reps

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Speaker 7: because you know, they've seen what he can do there. Now.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he's going to be showing seventy yard

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Speaker 7: bombs like crazy that Mary Cooper like he did three

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Speaker 7: years ago, because I don't think they have the offensive

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Speaker 7: line for it, and they also don't have Pete Nick

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Speaker 7: Chubb there drawing the kind of attention that he did,

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Speaker 7: So they've got issues. But no, I think they're keeping

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Speaker 7: Flaco on the bubble rap because they want to ride

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Speaker 7: that as long as they can. But I think even

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Speaker 7: internally they know trying to ride that more than six

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Speaker 7: to eight weeks is probably feeble. So in the meantime,

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Speaker 7: they've got to get these other guys ready to play.

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Speaker 7: But facto Flaco speaks the language. Flacco has been existing

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Speaker 7: in this league for five years now, getting no reps.

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean, he doesn't need training camp.

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Speaker 7: I mean, hell, the year he took them to the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: he came up his couch and what November and practice

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Speaker 7: for a week and they're throwing for four hundred yards

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Speaker 7: every game. So I think they have to figure out

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Speaker 7: who these other kids are. I think Pickett was going

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Speaker 7: to be traded and the injury set that back, and so,

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Speaker 7: you know, is he still traded at some point? I

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Speaker 7: think probably, But Hammy's going to be Turkey And so

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Speaker 7: really it's about Gabriel and Sanders and repping them up

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Speaker 7: and again, can one of them take the baton Week eight,

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Speaker 7: Week nine, Week ten or picket's still there. You write

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Speaker 7: picket for a little while, but I don't think to

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Speaker 7: ride them for a whole half season. So it's got

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Speaker 7: to play out. It just started. But I mean, I

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Speaker 7: think the Browns probably the last team to win a

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Speaker 7: game in this league, like if them are the Saints,

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Speaker 7: and when I really dig down on the schedules, like

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Speaker 7: I think it might be the Browns. I don't like

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Speaker 7: them in the trenches, you know, really on I just

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Speaker 7: side of the ball and the defense can it was

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Speaker 7: you know, great at home two years ago. Even that year,

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Speaker 7: it wasn't the same on the road. There's been slippage there.

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Speaker 7: There's been some decay. I think they're really up against it.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, I think Flaco starts as long as you can,

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Speaker 7: but I don't think it's going to be that long

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Speaker 7: because I think he's going to heal a lot.

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Speaker 3: He's Jason Locking for Odyssey Washington Post on a five

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Speaker 3: to seven the Fan in Baltimore. Jason, as always appreciate

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Speaker 3: you stopping by. Enjoy the Hall of Fame game. We're

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Speaker 3: almost there.

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Speaker 7: We are almost there and almost there. Have a great night, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: Thank you having me be great.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, all right, on acs at and Twitter as we

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Speaker 3: originally called it there at Jason lockerfor see No I'm conditioned,

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Speaker 3: reconditioning and rebranding all the time. Appreciate Jason stopping by.

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Speaker 3: He joins us each and every week. He's also got

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Speaker 3: his Want a Bet podcast. Rich Orberger in for Jason Smith.

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Speaker 3: I'm Mike Carmon, Thanks for being with us here Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. Not stop to send it over to the

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Speaker 3: news desk, and a legend among men, It's Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 4: Hello, gentlemen, and the sad news.

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Speaker 9: First stuff that Hall of Famer Ryan Sandberg passed away

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Speaker 9: at the age of sixty five. The Cub's second baseman

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Speaker 9: won nine straight Gold Gloves through nineteen ninety one, was

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Speaker 9: NLMVP of nineteen eighty four. Sandberg had had a relapse

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Speaker 9: with his prostate cancer last year and it spread to

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Speaker 9: other Organs. The Cubs and Brewers were tied for first

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Speaker 9: in the NL Central to start tonight, Milwaukee at home

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Speaker 9: beat the Cubs eight to four. The lost to All

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Speaker 9: Star pitcher Matthew Boyd, who was eleven and three but

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Speaker 9: allowed five runs in five innings. This evening, the Braves

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Speaker 9: are had ten to four at Kansas City and the

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Speaker 9: bottom of the ninth. Royals catcher Salvador Perez left bruce

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Speaker 9: elbow suffered at the plate hit by a pitch, and

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Speaker 9: Kansas City All Star pitcher Chris Bubach is out for

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Speaker 9: the year with a strained rotator cuff.

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Speaker 4: The Braves have lost.

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Speaker 6: Five in a row. Trying to end that, Atlanta.

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Speaker 9: Acquired pitcher Carlos Carrasco from the Yankees. The Yanks lost

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Speaker 9: at home to Tampa Bay four to two, the final

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Speaker 9: for the Rays, who had lost four straight games. In

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Speaker 9: case you didn't hear, Saturday, Aaron Judge was placed on

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Speaker 9: the injured list with a strained elbow. The Dodgers were

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Speaker 9: five two winners at Cincinnati, a Reds team that had

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Speaker 9: won four straight. Reds left bases loaded in the ninth

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Speaker 9: Shoeotani with a two run double the win. Indo Yoshinobu

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Speaker 9: Yamamoto seven innings, nine strikeouts. Detroit a five to one

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Speaker 9: winner over Arizona. A Uhenneo Suarez of the Diamondbacks left

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Speaker 9: hit by a pitch on the hand. X Rays were negative.

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Speaker 9: Baseball's trade deadline is Thursday. Baltimore beat Toronto eleven to four.

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Speaker 9: The loss to Chris Bassett, who was eleven and four

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Speaker 9: this year, but in two and a third gave up

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Speaker 9: six runs. The Rockies at Cleveland game had a rain

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Speaker 9: delay at the start of about two and a half hours.

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Speaker 9: It's now bottom of the sixth. Colorado up three to

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Speaker 9: nothing on the Guardians. Cleveland closer Emmanuel Class is on

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Speaker 9: paid leave after a sports betting investigation. The Red Sox

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Speaker 9: have taken the lead four to three in the ninth

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Speaker 9: at the Twins, and they've just gone to a rain

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Speaker 9: delay before the bottom of the ninth inning. The tarp

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Speaker 9: the top of the fifth. No hits for the Rangers,

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Speaker 9: yet Texas has won six in a row. The Mets

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Speaker 9: have won seventh straight. They're leading one nothing at San

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Speaker 9: Diego in the top of the third. Pirates are ahead

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Speaker 9: four to three at the Giants top of the third.

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Speaker 9: Mariners lead at the A's that is, won nothing at.

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Speaker 4: The end of two innings.

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Speaker 9: And we do have the NFL news to pass along

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Speaker 9: that there was an injury at Dallas Cowboys camp today.

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Speaker 9: Tackle Tyler Geiden was hurt, originally feared to be a

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Speaker 9: torn acl but no, did not tear it but reportedly

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Speaker 9: will miss four to six weeks. The Colts gave tackle

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Speaker 9: Bernard Rayman a four year extension. The Broncos gave wide

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Speaker 9: receiver Courtland Sutton a four year extension. WNBA wins for

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Speaker 9: Dallas and Seattle. And in women's soccer, a Copa America

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Speaker 9: semifinal has just ended on FS one. Columbia eliminates Argentina

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Speaker 9: on penalty kicks. Argentina had been four to zero in

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Speaker 9: this tournament. Tuesday night semi on FS one, we'll at

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Speaker 9: Brazil against Uruguay the finalist Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thanks so much. Steve Disager at the

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Speaker 3: news desk with us tonight. Hey, your next success can

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Speaker 3: e DU and coming up next, on the heels of

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Speaker 3: the question posed in the ponderance of the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: quartered and back quarterbacking situation, Doctor Rich is going to

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Speaker 3: explain to us how we're supposed to assess writers from

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Speaker 3: training camp. Is it the best of times or the

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Speaker 4: Stay with us. We're just getting warmed up here.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: Mike Carmon. No, Jason Smithy'll be back later on in

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Speaker 3: the week. Tonight, we've got doctor Rich Hornberger live from

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Speaker 3: San Diego with us here, our.

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Speaker 4: Teammate long time in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Part of Countdown on Saturday mornings, getting you ready for

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Speaker 3: the day's action. Ramping up towards more TV radio and

657
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Speaker 3: chaos with San Diego State and his kids now getting

658
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Speaker 3: ready to just take over the across and football worlds. Yes,

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Speaker 3: maybe tag team wrestling. I don't know a little bit

660
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Speaker 3: of everything, but you know what, well, I mean, they're

661
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Speaker 3: gotta be sizeable. Maybe they'll start teaming up and taking

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Speaker 3: you down soon enough.

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Speaker 6: Dude, they're large humans. Yeah, I got my work cut

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Speaker 6: out for me.

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Speaker 5: We were traveling off the weekend and carrying them through

666
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Speaker 5: the airport is almost almost a no go at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't skip leg day, baby, That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: Right now, All right, time for the player that day

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Tyreq. We talked about Ryan Sandberg's

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Speaker 3: passing to start the show and and for all of

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Speaker 3: us the love the game of baseball and certainly the

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Speaker 3: city of Chicago in mourning.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: They just had the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies. Plenty

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Speaker 3: of people asked about Ryan Sandberg wasn't able to be

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Speaker 3: there with his you know, his Hall teammates for for

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Speaker 3: lack of a better term, Wade Boggs talking to our

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Speaker 3: own John John Moros, who joins each and every week, quote,

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Speaker 3: he's my classmate, said take care of him, Lord, and

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Speaker 3: started crying as they spoke about him. But we're gonna

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Speaker 3: go back and positive happy memories of one of his highlights. Earlier,

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Speaker 3: we played the first home run. Now it's time to

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Speaker 3: hear Harry Carey again, five for six on the day,

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Speaker 3: home runs in the ninth and tenth inning off fellow

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Speaker 3: should be. We'll hear more remembrances of Ryan Sandberg. Circle

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Speaker 3: back to that a little bit later. I'm seeing highlights

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Speaker 3: and old footage giving me chills, going back to a

694
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Speaker 3: childhood running home from school, raiding the refrigerator, and then

695
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Speaker 3: watching those games. But I got to ask you, Rich

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff with training camps. We've got all

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Speaker 3: the contract hold in hold out, trying to find major

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Speaker 3: dollars along the way, and then every injury report might

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Speaker 3: be the season ender, might be the career ender. Oh

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Speaker 3: it might just be a ripped fingernail. But we also

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Speaker 3: have the best of time worst of times in terms

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Speaker 3: of day to day fluidity for the quarterback position. We

703
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Speaker 3: talk about Cleveland and Shador Sanders. One day he's getting cut,

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Speaker 3: the next day he's on on path to a Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame career. How am I supposed to read through

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Speaker 3: the beat writers rhetoric?

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Speaker 6: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 5: I want everybody to try to remember what it was

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Speaker 5: like to.

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Speaker 6: Practice, because it's really difficult.

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Speaker 5: Like look, practice is not something we often do as adults.

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Speaker 5: We go to work, we have good work days, we

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Speaker 5: have bad work days. I guess occasionally you might practice

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Speaker 5: a conversation you want to have if it's particularly important

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Speaker 5: with your boss. You might kind of talk to yourself

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Speaker 5: on the road, you know, while you're white knuckling traffic,

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Speaker 5: you might review some of the things you might want

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Speaker 5: to say when you're asking for that race.

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Speaker 6: But not a lot of people remember what practice is like.

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Speaker 5: But practice you literally try to fail so that you

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Speaker 5: don't fail in the game. So when you have failures

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Speaker 5: at practice, those are good moments because they're learning moments.

723
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Speaker 5: When you have successes at practice, they can be good moments,

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Speaker 5: but they also could be expected moments. So I guess

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Speaker 5: my point is you cannot fall in love with the

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Speaker 5: results of practice. Yeah, Shador had a great day today,

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Speaker 5: but guess what, He's gonna have a rough day tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: or the next day or the next day. It all

729
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Speaker 5: comes out in the wash. It's about getting better and

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Speaker 5: seeing improvement. Is it a good thing that Shador Sanders

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Speaker 5: has had a good game or a good day at practice?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Everything doesn't mean he's gonna be, you know, the next

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Speaker 5: Elite mobile quarterback taking over the NFL, like Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 5: probably not. You know, it's probably gonna settle somewhere in between.

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Speaker 5: So I would say, pump your brakes on the heavy

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Speaker 5: expectations and the heavy breathing you see around Twitter or

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Speaker 5: the artist formerly known as Twitter now named Ax.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because in Chicago they were gripping the other day

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Speaker 3: as Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams weren't quite seeing eye

742
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Speaker 3: to eye and what he was trying to call and

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Speaker 3: how it was executed.

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Speaker 4: But day to day you try.

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Speaker 3: To find those wins along the way, and it gives

746
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Speaker 3: us more to talk about the great successes and the

747
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Speaker 3: great failures. Rich Ohnberger for Jason Smith, not Mike Carbon

748
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Speaker 3: coming out next. You know, Rich, if he keeps carrying

749
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Speaker 3: Hiss through the airport, he might be on the cover

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Speaker 3: of Men's Health. That would put him in company with

751
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Speaker 3: a guy who's retooled. Welter cadd from the situation or

752
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: extricated himself, depending on whose story you believe, or was

753
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Speaker 3: it a mutual parting of the way, because whenever you

754
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: hear the mutual breakup, you don't believe it all. Right,

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00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: which side called it right? Which side? You know the

756
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: made the call? But ever since then, right you were

757
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: able to go through the last bits, you won another

758
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: super Bowl. Fantastic. Jerry got to pat himself on the back.

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Speaker 3: The problem is that made him believe that he was

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Speaker 3: absolutely right in what he was doing. And then year

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Speaker 3: after year, my ex's father told me many years ago,

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Speaker 3: residing in the Dallas area, we're never winning again so

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Speaker 3: long as he's here. Either sell the team or you know,

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Speaker 3: going to the inevitable end of things some years later.

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Speaker 3: Either way, it's a great pr run for us every

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Speaker 3: year here at Fox Sports Radio. We appreciate the Dallas

767
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Speaker 3: Cowboys and the clown show that they can be from

768
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Speaker 3: time to time. But once again we're in that usual

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Speaker 3: dance with a superstar that eventually he's gonna get his money.

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Speaker 3: It's just how long can you draw it out to

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Speaker 3: keep the audiences with you. It's like the hey, we

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Speaker 3: have one more episode before the season finale. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 3: we'll tie it up there and Michael will get his money, okay,

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Speaker 3: and now we'll be ready for football. But another guy

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Speaker 3: who's on the comeback trail in a reinvention. I believe

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Speaker 3: one of the Kardashians had the Revenge Bod brand rolling

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Speaker 3: for a while that's Luka Danciz of your Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: Lakers now on the cover of Men's Health. Things that

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Speaker 3: I would have thought I'd only see at a carnival

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Speaker 3: a year ago, right, one of those things where I

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Speaker 3: could put myself on the magazine cover. Here I am

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Speaker 3: the man of the Year for Time Magazine. Here I

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Speaker 3: am the muscle and fitness superstar. After years of Arnold

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Speaker 3: Schwarzeneger and Luke Farigno and Lee Haney and all those

785
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Speaker 3: guys of yesteryear. No, here's Luca Dacins on Men's Health,

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Speaker 3: a year after Michael Finley so famously emasculated the man

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Speaker 3: in front of his dad and.

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Speaker 4: Took his beer.

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Speaker 3: All these months later, he's come out the other side

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Speaker 3: and he's on Men's Health, talking about transforming his body,

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Speaker 3: the two workouts a day, what he's eating, all of

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Speaker 3: these things. Here he is lifting weights, doing the dead lift.

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Speaker 3: The road to swol was a real thing, as well

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Speaker 3: as the next giant contract extension.

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Speaker 4: As he takes over La.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's like a beer bun.

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Speaker 5: It's like seeing a beer belly on on like a

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Speaker 5: runner on the cover of Runners World. It's like naming

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Speaker 5: a turtle lightning.

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Speaker 4: It's like, actually done.

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Speaker 5: You know Guy Fieri on the cover of Bonappetite magazine,

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Speaker 5: it's you know, there's there's certain faces or things in

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Speaker 5: places that don't seem like they would ever make sense.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, that's no shade a Guy Field.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're saying donkey sauce isn't hotf cuisine.

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Speaker 6: Because I've tried.

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Speaker 5: I was about to reference that I've tried the donkey sauce,

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Speaker 5: and I can say with an emphatic two thumbs up,

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Speaker 5: it is a lead.

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Speaker 4: Can you and I meet in Vegas and go to

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Speaker 4: his place? Have you ever been there?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? I've been there more than once. Yeah.

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00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: No, insane is a correct adjective of Flavor Town USA.

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Speaker 6: No quest So. But but get back to Luca.

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Speaker 5: I mean it just yeah, it's an oddity to see

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Speaker 5: him on this track. But here here's the thing. Here's

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00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: the thing about aging superstars. And he's not old yet,

818
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: but he's aging. You either age gracefully because you start

819
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Speaker 5: investing in self care and you start getting your nutrition

820
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Speaker 5: right and your training regime and the massage and the

821
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Speaker 5: stretch and the hyperbaric chamber and the science and technology

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Speaker 5: and the lungety or you end up aging out.

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Speaker 6: And that's the reality.

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Speaker 5: And I think actually one of the best things for

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Speaker 5: Luca was having to look it is so hard to

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Speaker 5: find reasons to compete at a certain point when you

827
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Speaker 5: have mastered something, when you are literally being considered one

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Speaker 5: of the top in your field, what's left to compete

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Speaker 5: with other than yourself?

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Speaker 6: I mean, chasing titles? Of course, I get it.

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Speaker 5: Those are highly variable because you're relying on others, not

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Speaker 5: just yourself. I mean, but he is one of the

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Speaker 5: best doing it in basketball, So what motivates you, Well,

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Speaker 5: getting you know, a swift kick to the shins and

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Speaker 5: you know kind of you know, thrown on the next thing,

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Speaker 5: smoking out of town might have been the motivation that he.

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Speaker 6: Was looking for.

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Speaker 5: And then pair that with being teammates with Lebron James,

839
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Speaker 5: who is fastidivitous about this.

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Speaker 6: He works on his nutrition.

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Speaker 5: And he spends you know, if not a million millions

842
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: of dollars on his health. I think all of those

843
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 5: were combining factors to get him on the cover of

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Speaker 5: mental health and get him to take his body as

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Speaker 5: part of his sport.

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Speaker 3: More more seriously, I like you getting the word fastidious

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Speaker 3: in there.

848
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Speaker 4: Nicely done, Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: Also, you had some wild speculation by some folks last week.

850
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: We talked about it because Arnie Spanier was absolutely enamored

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00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: with the idea of off season training regimens and trips

852
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: and whatever. You can find the podcast wherever you download

853
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: your audio and go back down that rabbit hole. But

854
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: to your point, it's been well chronicled. Here's the money spent,

855
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: some of the partnerships that Lebron has had in the

856
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Speaker 3: health and fitness world with different gadgetary et cetera. But

857
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: for Luca Donget, it's that point. You know, we were

858
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Speaker 3: talking a couple of weeks ago Scottie Scheffler, right, and

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Speaker 3: some took the who's this guy?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Shut up as you're pondering, you know, something beyond golf,

862
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: like he's great at it and clearly puts the work in.

863
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: But you're always looking for something more no matter what

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00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 3: your job is, right, you're never satisfied. Right, You either

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Speaker 3: be a little funnier, be a little smarter in sharp

867
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 3: using words like fastidious for Luca Dauchis, You're now at

868
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 3: that the top of the heap with a historic franchise.

869
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 3: Not that Dallas hasn't had its moments in the past,

870
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: but you know, it's apples and oranges. You're in glitz

871
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: and glamour of Hollywood. You've got a guy Lebron. However

872
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: long he's your teammate, the expectations get ratcheted up immensely.

873
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: Not to mention again, no matter how many times I'll

874
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: hear an athlete or anybody in my life tell me

875
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: they don't read the comments.

876
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: We'll do.

877
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: I try not to.

878
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: You get the things about your your appearance, like I

879
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: can't tell you. I was once the only time I

880
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 3: ever appeared on Barstool Sports was the thing where they

881
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: did four guys.

882
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: This is what I was doing, fantasy full time.

883
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 3: It's like who is the most likely to have female

884
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: companionship for a night.

885
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: Now, I was long married at that.

886
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: Point, but it was still the point of the only

887
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: time I ever showed up for something was because of

888
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 3: my physicality. Yeah, so immediately it's like, Hey, the road

889
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: to swol and we've partnered up and I looking to.

890
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: Lean and mean for the cameras. These days.

891
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 3: But it's those kind of things people saying they don't

892
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: read them, they don't respond to them. They're lying, right.

893
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: It's like no folks in our business claiming they're not fans.

894
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: You're still a fan of something, whether you root hard

895
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: for the hometown team anymore or not as a whole

896
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: other equation, but you're still a fan of sport that

897
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: brings in it For Luka Doncic, you're gonna read all

898
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: those things where people are like, well, he'd be great

899
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: if he didn't do dot dot.

900
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, you get back to work.

901
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 5: I think he knows that weak conditioning is the final

902
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 5: step between being a superstar and being a legend, because

903
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 5: he's witnessing that with Lebron James. I think that he

904
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 5: understands with an aging Lebron and a loaded West, he's

905
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 5: gonna need to be at his peak to help carry

906
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 5: the Lakers forward.

907
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 6: And that's what he was traded in order to do.

908
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 5: I mean Lebron James, his agency represents ad This is

909
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 5: a friend or at very's what we were told was

910
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 5: a close friend and ally of Lebron's that he shipped

911
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: off to Dallas in exchange for Luca and everybody said,

912
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: Dallas got host. Okay, fine, but the deal is you're

913
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: in La now. So however you got there, your legacy

914
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 5: is waiting. This is This is where you either take

915
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: the stamp and you fill it with ink and you start,

916
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 5: you know, stamping your resume for the Hall of Fame,

917
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: or you start making the argument for all of those

918
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 5: people bellying up to the bar in ten years talking

919
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 5: about the should as the kudahs and woods for your career.

920
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: And I think Luca understands that he's at that moment,

921
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: He's at the precipice. You're either going to fall back

922
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: down the way he came up the mountain, or you're

923
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: gonna get over the top and you're gonna start, you know,

924
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 5: heading down toward the land of milk and honey.

925
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 6: And I think I think he again, I.

926
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 5: Think this trade as sour and dour the mood may

927
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 5: have been at first, I think has opened.

928
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 6: His eyes to a new challenge.

929
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 5: And I think, I again, he's not old, but he's aging,

930
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 5: and I think aging superstars need to be challenged and

931
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 5: that and that's exactly what the doctor ordered.

932
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: Well, everybody wants to win the breakup Rich.

933
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 3: There's no question about it, right, quote, my sleeping, my body,

934
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 3: my everything. I felt more restored, right and going along

935
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: his journey, and certainly you speak to it, and I'll

936
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: speak for my colleague off in Detroit, mister Smith. Right,

937
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: We've we've done this thing with with work, the PhD

938
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: weight loss bit, and I sleep a bit better, my

939
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 3: knees don't hurt as much. I had a better first

940
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: step when it comes time to chase down a soccer

941
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: ball when I'm fielding for my kids team before a game,

942
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: so the ball doesn't fly and screw up somebody else's game.

943
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 4: The way they line up the fields is just asinine.

944
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 4: But that's a whole other thing.

945
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: But you know, just equating to it all, like he

946
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: mentions in the Men's Health article, he mentions Kobe and

947
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: MJ and going down quote obviously to be the best

948
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: I could be take care of myself this year with

949
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: my team, I think we did a huge step, but

950
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: it's just the start.

951
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: I need to keep.

952
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: Going, can't stop. And he's a guy that I'm recognized.

953
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: He's either a headline or a punchline. What do you

954
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: want to be?

955
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

956
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 5: And I mean and also the fact that you're alongside

957
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 5: guy like Lebron, it is a make or break moment

958
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: because like you're getting to see firsthand how longevity is

959
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 5: built through conditioning, You're getting to see firsthand that the Lakers,

960
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 5: I mean really honestly, their window for a championship is

961
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 5: short and he can't be a decided week link in

962
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 5: all this. I mean, Anthony Davis came in there joining

963
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 5: Lebron James to win a championship. Well, even though a

964
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 5: lot of people don't count it because they were in

965
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: a bubble in Orlando, it still counts. They still have

966
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: the Larry O'Brien Trophy somewhere in that in that uh,

967
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 5: in that facility. And again, I think the influence of

968
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 5: not just Lebron, but the relentless LA market, who's decidedly

969
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 5: more of a basketball town than Dallas is is, is

970
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 5: another motivating factor.

971
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 6: I think it was a.

972
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 5: Lot louder and more serious of a reaction from fans

973
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 5: in LA when the conditioning was questioned at the midyear

974
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 5: point when he joined the Lakers than it was ever

975
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 5: at any point in his career as a Dallas Maverick.

976
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 5: And so I think he had one of those you know,

977
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 5: come come, come to the light moments where he's like,

978
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 5: oh boy, if if I want to be taken seriously here,

979
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 5: and I do want to be taken seriously, I better

980
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 5: get this right. And I again, like you said, everyone

981
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: wants to win the breakup. I think he wants to

982
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: make the Dallas Mavericks look extremely foolish from moving on

983
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 5: from him. But again, I can't deny for a second

984
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: it may have been the best thing for his career.

985
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: I will say this.

986
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: You know, I've always, you know, been asked because sports cards, memorabilia,

987
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: am I whole like, you know, what's the one piece

988
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: you want? I think I now have a new leader

989
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. I want the can of beer that

990
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: Finley took out of his hand. Oh yeah, like the

991
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: other Jersey's bats. All those things are all finding good,

992
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: no question about it. But I think that that's what

993
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: I want. I want whatever's left of that beer can.

994
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, it's probably a part of like a Toyota,

995
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: like a like the hood of a Camry. Now it's

996
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 5: been recycled, it's long reccling at least one but yeah, yeah,

997
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: at least once. Yeah, if not, yeah, a reliable automobile

998
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: e the way, No question, out it, Then you got it.