1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: right now. Me Buck in solo today for one more 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: day touch base with our man Clay Travis, who is 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: on us soil back from his sojourn in Australia with 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: his family, and he will be with us tomorrow. So 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: just me today and we have a lot to dive into. 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: The House Democrats have released, even for House Democrats, a 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: particularly dishonest and absurd report on how Trump Trump was 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: the one receiving money from foreign governments, not Biden Trump. Sure, 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: I will, I will eviscerate this report with you. We 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: will dissect and bag up and throw in the trash 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: this absurd report, because that is where it belongs, in 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: the trash, in the garbage. So we shall discuss that 16 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: in a little bit. Trump's legal team in Colorado has 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: requested sert with the Supreme Court. Essentially, they've gone to 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court and said, look, you guys have got 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: away in on this thing. It's crazy what they have done, 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: kicking Trump off the presidential ballot in Colorado in this way. 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: And we need a Supreme Court ruling that will essentially 22 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: stop this madness. Remember, we're waiting for the courts in 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: Maine to rule after the main Secretary of State said 24 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: she would disqualify Trump from the ballot in the state 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: of Maine, but because of the issues involved, she's going 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: to stay her own decision pending judicial review via Maine 27 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: State Supreme Court. Supreme Court's got away in here, and 28 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: what we need to see is a total slap down 29 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: of this. I believe you will see a six three 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: or seven to two decision on this one. I do 31 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: not think you will see it in nine to oh 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: because Sotomayor and Catangi Brown Jackson will. They just they're 33 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: part of the anti Trump resistance. It doesn't matter what 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: the constitutional reality is, doesn't matter what the law says. 35 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: They know their team Team Democrat. The left hates Trump. Anyway. 36 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: We'll get into that in a little bit more detail. 37 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: We also have the days of preparation here before some 38 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: debates and some town halls. Next week we'll discuss the 39 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: Republican primary, how things are going. Eric Adams in New 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: York City, the mayor continuing to complain about the migrants 41 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: they love, the migrants. They just don't want the migrants 42 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: in their city. Migrants are amazing, they just don't want 43 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: a lot of them living in their neighborhoods. Oh okay, interesting, 44 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: very very clearly democrat stuff going on there. The the 45 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: woke reimagining. I think that is coming of Star Wars. 46 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: We'll get in that later on in the show. Right now, 47 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: I got to start with this, the Epstein disclosures. Now, 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: I've been following this story for years, as many others have. 49 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: And while I understand right now there's a there's a 50 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: little bit of a media frenzy around around the names released, 51 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: I still and I can talk about this that people 52 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: are talking about that there's references. Now, this comes from 53 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: a civil lawsuit, so you know, basically, unless something crazy happens, 54 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: no one's going to prison over this, folks, and no 55 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: one else. I mean, unless there's something that comes out 56 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: that is real proof. Everything here is just someone said 57 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: this or someone said that. Now, I think a lot 58 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: of this is true. I think a lot of what 59 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: we're hearing is an accurate reflection of what went on. 60 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Of course, it's not that it's just people that are 61 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: saying finally, justice will be done. I'm not convinced of that. 62 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: And here's why I'm not convinced of it. The fundamental 63 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: questions about Epstein remain unanswered, remain unanswered. 64 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: Now. 65 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: I am particularly, I am particularly slow to embrace what 66 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: some would call the conspiracy theory. And I do think 67 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: these days on the right maybe it's a whole other conversation, 68 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 2: but I want to bring the whole right wing family together. 69 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people go a little too fast in 70 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: that direction. A lot of talk about aliens in JFK recently. 71 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, and I don't say that anyone's wrong, 72 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: but we gotta be careful, right aliens JFK. Okay, but 73 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: put all that aside, particularly the aliens. Do you guys 74 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: know where I stand on the alien stuff. My own family, well, 75 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: we're split. Half agrees with me and half things that 76 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm crazy. I'm a skeptic about, you know, aliens existing 77 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: and we have proof of it and all that stuff. Yes, 78 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: flood our inbox with how I'm an idiot because look 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: at this or look at that, and we know that 80 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: aliens exist. We'll have the aliens. You know what, when 81 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: Clay gets back tomorrow, I'll poke them with the alien 82 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: because he's a true believer. You know, I never remember 83 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: who's which one is the believer, Mulley or Scolder from 84 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: the X Files. But I'm the skeptic. I think the 85 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: guy was the believer and the lady was the was 86 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: a skeptic, So in this case, I'm the lady. Anyway, 87 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: back to Epstein though, back to serious matters. Where did 88 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: this guy get all of his money? Now? I know 89 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: there's been some looking into this, but the cover story 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: for years was that this guy was some kind of 91 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: a Wall Street genius. That's laughable. It's just not true. 92 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: It's absurd. He didn't make his money in Wall Street. Okay, 93 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: so we still don't really have good answers about that, right. 94 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: We know that he was paid money by by different individuals, 95 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: some very wealthy ones, at some kind of a wealth advisor. 96 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: But he was given a home in New York City 97 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: right next to Fifth Avenue, I mean, pretty much the 98 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: most expensive real estate in the island of Manhattan. I 99 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: mean that it's if you're looking for the fanciest of 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: the fancy in Manhattan, a townhouse between Madison Avenue and 101 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: Fifth Avenue on the Upper East Side. I think it 102 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: went for like fifty or sixty million dollars. Okay, this 103 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: is this is at the absolute top tier. It was 104 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: a gift. He was gifted this. How many of you 105 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: know someone that's going to give you a fifty or 106 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: sixty million dollar house. I mean, if you do, let 107 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: me know, I would love a fifty year sixty million 108 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: dollar house. But we don't really have the answer to 109 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: the where do the money come from? We have ideas, 110 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: and here's the fundamental idea about Epstein, that he was 111 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: running a massive blackmail operation against a number of individuals. 112 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: Part of what slows this down, I should add, is 113 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: that a lot of these people and I know, you know, 114 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: and the reason disclosure. Let's just get out there. There's 115 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: talk of Stephen Hawking. Stephen Hawking, he's dead now, but 116 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, and there's no they I think that with Hawking, 117 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: they're saying that, you know, he may there there's some 118 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: kind of an allegation of this. I didn't even know, 119 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not, of course trying to in any way 120 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: make a lot of this. I didn't even know that 121 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: was that was something that would be possible. But Stephen Hawking, 122 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: his name comes up in this in the recent disclosure obviously, Bill, 123 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: but Bill Clinton, we already knew had There are a 124 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: lot of people that we knew had Epstein ties. We're 125 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: seeing their names again and they're just saying, oh, I 126 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: just flew on the plane. Oh and and we can 127 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: all believe whatever we want. But if you say something 128 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: that's not true, they will sue you, right, or rather, 129 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: if you say, I should say, if you say something 130 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: that you can't prove is true, they will sue you. 131 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: So that slows all of this down because these these 132 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: are people who are going to be leggitious about their reputations. 133 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: So you can't just make allegations of some kind without 134 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: there being possible consequences. Now, generally, of course that's a 135 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: good thing. You shouldn't be able to slander people. But 136 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: in this instance you can see that there's a litigiousness, 137 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: a desire to litigate. I think around some of these 138 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: individuals that people are scared to talk about. What we're 139 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: hearing like, well, you're just going to this place and 140 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: getting you know, going to this island and getting back 141 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: rubs from from girls who look like they, you know, 142 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: weren't old enough to be traversing as part of a 143 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: business relationship with this guy. I mean, we don't know 144 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: who knew what yet, and they're all everyone named in 145 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: this is just gonna say I didn't know as you know, 146 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: So I think that all this, Oh, the names are 147 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: all coming out. The names are all coming out. These 148 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: are names that are mentioned, and some of the names, 149 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: you know, they're very clear about this, Like Leonardo DiCaprio's 150 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: name is mentioned as just it's mentioned. It's not he 151 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: wasn't in any of these places. He didn't do anything. 152 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: But so there's the list of names from the death, 153 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: from the from this uh this civil suit. And then 154 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: there's the list of names that have some impropriety attached 155 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: to them, right or or that could theoretically, So it 156 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: gets very complicated. Epstein did all of this on purpose, 157 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: of course, having people that are so prominent, so powerful 158 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: in your orbit is he thought was, and I think 159 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: this is true, something of a defense against people prying 160 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: into what's going on here. Right, Oh, that that guy 161 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: spends time with Bill Gates, that guy spends time with 162 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton. I know they try to tie Trump to him, 163 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: but Trump is the guy who stepped up and said 164 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: get this creepster out of you know, out of mar 165 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: Lago forever. Trump is the guy that was immediately as 166 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: soon as he as soon as he got any inclination 167 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: what Epstein was actually about, he was like, get this 168 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: scum off my property. This is just this is a 169 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: matter of record now. Right as soon as he realized 170 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: what was going and on with this guy, Trump was like, 171 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: get out of my face. Was Bill Clinton like that? 172 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: No? 173 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: But without proof, And it is true, we have to 174 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: without proof of actual knowledge, actual wrongdoing from some of 175 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: these individuals involved, nothing is gonna I when I say nothing, 176 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm not even just talking about the possible legal ramifications. 177 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: The the Democrats and the left will cover for who 178 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: they want to cover for. 179 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: You know. 180 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: The only guy who's really gotten uh, particularly hit hard 181 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: on this from the the Epstein orbit is a British 182 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: royal that I had never heard of before. Prince this guy, 183 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew, and he had to pay a multimillion dollar 184 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: suit to one of the uh, one of the you 185 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: know accused, one of the accusers. But I still I 186 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: come back to the the Let's go back to the 187 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: most basic what was Epstein doing. He had all these 188 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: houses wired up, they were taking surveillance video, they were 189 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: taking audio and video of people involved in these in 190 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: these likely highly compromising and highly illegal situations, running a 191 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: massive blackmail ring. Who was funding this? Was there outside funding? 192 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: Generally they can trace wires and figure out where all 193 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: your money comes from. Feels like there's always some question marks. 194 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: Oh Epstein, but yeah, he had some overseas holdings that 195 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: maybe weren't able to find overseas holdings. Well, who gave 196 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: him that money? Was anyone a part of this, was 197 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: anyone trying to leverage his operation for the purposes of 198 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: influencing government and really just the power structure of this 199 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: country from the very top level. Those are the questions 200 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: that I don't say, there's no interest in the government 201 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: of dealing with this, and I haven't even gotten to 202 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: And look, I was just discussing this in my wife 203 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: last night. She asked me, She asked me, what do 204 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: I think about the Epstein suicide? And I said, well, 205 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: if you're telling me that, I'm supposed to believe that 206 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: the single federal inmate with the highest likelihood and history 207 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 2: of being able to possibly tarnish and destroy the reputations 208 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: of some of the most powerful people in the world, 209 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: including incredibly powerful and influential democrats notice his friend, and 210 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: that he was the only person these are facts, the 211 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: only person in the history of the Manhattan Correctional Center, 212 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: the MCC in downtown Manhattan, I know where the facility is. 213 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: That he was the only one in history to be 214 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: able to commit suicide. And that the guard who was 215 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: supposed to be watching the surveillance cameras fell asleep, and 216 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: that two of the cameras that were supposed to be 217 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: recording had malfunctions that night, And that he broke his 218 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: hyoid bone, which we have been told by doctor Boden. 219 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: I saw the testimony, who was one of the most 220 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: probably the most famous autopsy expert in the world, says 221 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to break your own hyoid 222 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: bone through strangulation. If you're telling me that, I have 223 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: to believe that all of that just went the way 224 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: that we're told. No, that's asking me to believe a lot. 225 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: Do I know what happened. I don't know what happened, 226 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: but I know that something doesn't add up right. And 227 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: I can give you more about this too. You know what, 228 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: Let me let me come back. I want to share 229 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: with you. And there's there's a lot of stuff here 230 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: with Epstein, and I know there's different angles of this 231 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: that you want me to get to, and let's let's 232 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: open some lines too if you want to tell me, 233 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: you know, but what about this, This is a huge 234 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: How did he get this unbelievable deal from the government. 235 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: He's he's paying, he's paying for sex with a fourteen 236 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: year old and he gets a year in basically like 237 00:13:54,520 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: you know, daytime, walk in, walk out prison and and 238 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: registers as a sex offender. But that's that's all that 239 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: happens after with all the things he was doing, that's 240 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: what he gets. That's it. And then they also signed 241 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: this deal, federal deal where it would it would exco 242 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: pay or I should say expopated, but it would basically, uh, 243 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: give a get out of jail free car to any 244 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: future unnamed co conspirators. That's not a thing. Well, why 245 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: would you ever do that as a prosecutor unless you 246 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: were trying to just make it. Remember what, Remember what 247 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: prosecutor Kim Fox did with Jesse Smolett, Because we know 248 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: justic I mean, Jesse was guilty. He lied. It was 249 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: so obvious and this is a much lesser thing. It 250 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: was bad, but it was much lesser thing than all 251 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: the things we're talking about. But she dropped the charges 252 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: and had the case sealed so nobody else could look 253 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: into it. That's what she tried to do, a little bit, 254 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: a little bit like what they did. No, Epstein didn't 255 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: get charges dropped. He got the bare minimum charge and 256 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: then got this through a sweetheart deal, and it was 257 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: able to just function for years doing exactly what he'd 258 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: been doing before. All right, there's so much here. Of 259 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: all the things, though, among the most inexplicable to me 260 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: is what did the FBI do, by their own admission, 261 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: this is in court record, when they found a stack 262 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: of tapes, tapes of of you know, named girls in 263 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: New York City in Epstein's apartment. What did the FBI 264 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: do after Epstein was arrested they found these tapes? I 265 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: bet a lot of you don't know, and you definitely 266 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: are gonna want to hear it. All right, man, I 267 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: know this is like it's it's taking a walk through 268 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: darkness talking about all this Epstein stuff. 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But 294 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: when the FBI, and a hat tip to an colter 295 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: for writing about this and getting the word out there, 296 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: when the FBI raided Epstein's home after they arrested him 297 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, they were able to go to his 298 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: New York mansion and they discovered and they had to 299 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: use a saw to break into it, a lot of 300 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: photos of you know, underage girls, pornography, I mean, the 301 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: worst kind of stuff and compromise, compromising in material meaning 302 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: with men, adult men. And the FBI returned because they 303 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: said they didn't have a warrant to take that stuff. 304 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: They came back four days later and it was gone, 305 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: and they called the Epstein attorneys and said, you need 306 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: to give us back that stuff. That's what happened. Everybody, 307 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: think about that for a second. We'll come back. We'll 308 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: discuss more. Come up here. 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So welcome back in team to play 328 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: and Buck. So I'm I'm just gonna look, I don't 329 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: want to spend too much time on this today. I 330 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: know I've been talking a bit about the Epstein situation, 331 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: but I'm not a conspiracy theorist. There is a conspiracy 332 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: around Epstein that has not been uncovered fully yet. I'm 333 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: not a conspiracy theorist, but there is something going on here. 334 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on that we still don't know, uh. 335 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: And there are lapses and and unanswered questions and horrific 336 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: judgment by law enforcement at different stages of this that 337 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: any I mean, here's one example. The one guy who 338 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: you would think you gotta keep this guy alive in 339 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: prison is the one guy in the in the history 340 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: of that prison. I think they had al Choppo in 341 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: that prison. I mean, they have had some of the 342 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: they've had like guys involved in you know, Al Qaeda plots. 343 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they have held held the worst of the 344 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: worst at the MCC. It is a fortress and it's 345 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: it's in manhatt but it is a fortress. And this 346 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: guy's able to kill himself the only one, I mean, 347 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: and we're just supposed to say, oh, okay, you know, 348 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: I guess the guard fell asleep. What can you do now? 349 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: I was telling you before about what had happened. I 350 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: want to be very specific about it. This is reporting 351 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: from the Miami Herald, which is a very liberal, generally 352 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: very trash liberal paper, but on the Epstein thing. They've 353 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: actually done real reporting and they're a major reason why 354 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: there was a renewed effort to take down this human 355 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: trafficking ring and human trafficking ring and blackmail ring. Yes, 356 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: there's the human trafficking, which is awful, and you know 357 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: Glynn Maxwell is serving twenty years for that, But there's 358 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: the blackmail component of this as well, and that's the 359 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: part where all of a sudden goes, Oh, I don't know, 360 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Listen to this. I'm 361 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: going to read to you. This is from December twenty 362 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: twenty one. It's a couple of years back, and it's 363 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: from the Miami Herald quote never before see Photographs taken 364 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: by the FBI during a search following the financiers, but 365 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: he's not a financier. July sixth, twenty nineteen arrest show 366 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: several areas of Epstein's gilded eight story mansion, including the 367 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: massage room where he allegedly sexually abused girls and young women. 368 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: A large safe containing more binders of CDs, cash, computer 369 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: hard drives, diamonds, and passports was found. FBI agents left 370 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: the house to obtain a warrant for the safe, but 371 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: when they returned four days later, everything from the safe 372 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: was gone. Did you hear that FBI agents did a 373 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: search of Epstein's mansion and had to break into a 374 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: safe that seemed to be like the stash Jules passports. 375 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: So this was his This was like his go bag 376 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: plus CD What do we think was on those CDs? 377 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: My friends? The FBI came back four days later. And 378 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: it's not like it would be bad enough if the 379 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: FBI came back four days later and it was all there, 380 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: and you're like, well, did anyone take anything? Did anyone 381 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: manipulate anything? They came back four days later and it 382 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: was gone. All right, now, I'll give you the rest 383 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: of it. Quote one of Epstein's lawyers, Richard Kahn, later 384 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: returned the items in two suitcases. According to FBI special 385 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: agent Kelly Maguire, She told the jury that agent searched 386 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: overnight in the next day before finding the safe buried 387 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: in a third floor dressing room. They also found a 388 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: drawer full of computer hard drives in a ground floor office. Curiously, 389 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: she noted that the hard drives they found were already 390 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: marked with FBI evidence tape, indicating perhaps that they had 391 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: already been used as evidence in another case. What does 392 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: anyone want to just let all that? So this is 393 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: this is This is from FBI testimony reported on by 394 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 2: the Miami Herald. FBI shows up ransacks this guy's New 395 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: York mansion. He's already arrested. They're they're they're all in on. 396 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: You know, we've got to take down this Epstein ring. 397 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: Gotta do it, Gotta find out, you know, what was 398 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: going on here? Who was he blackmailing? And on behalf 399 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: of whom? Critical questions who was he blackmailing and who 400 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: was helping him right or who wanted this leverage? There 401 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: are a lot of theories out there. I'm aware of 402 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: the theories. I go on evidence. But the FBI shows 403 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: up and says, oh, no, we only had a search warrant, 404 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: not a search and seizure warrant. So we're just gonna 405 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: go and come back in four days and it's gone. 406 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: That is what happened. I mean, you know, people can 407 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: tell they can tell tell me whatever they want. Oh, 408 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: procedure me. I'm sorry, We're not idiots at best. That 409 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: is a shocking lapse in the FBI's protocols and procedures. 410 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: And it's it's so shocking that I don't even know 411 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: if you could really like, what is going on here? 412 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: My friends? What is going on? Does anyone want to 413 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: try to explain that one to me? I imagine, imagine 414 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't Epstein for a second, you know, imagine that 415 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: they had gone in and it's a high level political 416 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: corruption case, you know, some senator who's getting payoffs, like 417 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: a Menendez alleged Menendez situation, right, And and they went 418 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: into his house and they found the videos of him 419 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: having conversations with the people bribing him. And then they 420 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: were like, you know what, we'll be back in a 421 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: few days. And they came back and those videos were gone. 422 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: Would people still have their jobs after that? Again, I 423 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: don't go on conspiracies. I go on facts. I'm not 424 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist. There is a conspiracy with Epstein that 425 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: we have not gotten to the bottom of. And I'm 426 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: the one who makes fun of the crazy UFO stories, 427 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: and I'm the one who thinks, you know, people get 428 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: a little there's stuff we don't know about the jfk assassination, obviously, 429 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: but I think people think that they have it all 430 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: nailed down. Sometimes more than they do. But on this one, 431 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: on this one, there's too much going on. On this one, 432 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: there's there's so much smoke that I'm telling you there's 433 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: a fire. Something's going on here, something has been going 434 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: on this whole time. And when you're talking about people 435 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: with this level of power and money and influence and 436 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: the possibility of them having their reputations absolutely destroyed, maybe 437 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: going to prison for decades, what are they not willing 438 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: to do? Nothing they're not willing to do? What kind 439 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: of leverage, what kind of corruption, what kind of criminality 440 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 2: will they engage in to protect themselves? Absolutely anything? So 441 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: I do think that that's something we all have to 442 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: think about here. And as I said, I just read 443 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: to you the Miami Herald, not something you know right 444 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: wing blog, the Miami Herald's reporting on what happened in 445 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: the key moment of the Epstein case when they would 446 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: finally be able to answer those those questions, who was 447 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: he blackmailing and why was he blackmailing? As in other 448 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: than yeah, getting money? Sure, but was there anybody else, 449 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: any larger entity that was involved in this or pushing 450 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: for this, or you know, any co conspirators or well, 451 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: we may never know now. I mean, they're going to 452 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: release more names on this list, but they're just you 453 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: have to remember because there are because there are names 454 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: on this list that are that and this is true, 455 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 2: there are names that are coming out people that are 456 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: I think Cameron Dea has his name is that's just 457 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: because someone mentioned her and that she has nothing to 458 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: do with any of this. Didn't know Epstein. There are 459 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: names mentioned that have nothing to do with anything, and 460 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: so the names that were involved they get to say, oh, 461 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm just another one of those named people in Epstein. 462 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: You know, you already know about the bad ones like 463 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: the British prince or whatever. You already we already know 464 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: about that. So I mean, and I just don't think 465 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: there's been that much. I don't think there's been that 466 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: much interest in really getting to the bottom of it 467 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: from a lot of places in the government. I think 468 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: they want to move on. I mean, you know, there's 469 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: a lot of that, right. The government wants to move 470 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: on from COVID doesn't want to admit, you know, how 471 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: tyrannical and insane they were. And a best case analysis 472 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: is that our government wants to move past the Epstein 473 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: case because of its embarrassment at how poorly it was handled. 474 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: That goes without that is like obviously true, that is 475 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: beyond question. But I think a lot of you think 476 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: it's worse than that, and I think something else is 477 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: going on too, So we'll stay on it. You know, 478 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: I've been I've been talking to this and been on 479 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: this story and following it for a long time, and 480 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: they're just still I think I do not add up. 481 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: Take your calls on this, if you got any, we'll 482 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: get into Man, we got a lot today. Sorry, I 483 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 2: went longer on this than I had intended to. Some 484 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: updates on the Claudie Gay and Dei situation at Harvard. 485 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: Trump legal team wanting a rid of sart because it's 486 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: really hard to say, sercii ari. I think I got it. 487 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm close to it, effectively having the Supreme Court come 488 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: in and say you can't just start kicking people off 489 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: the ballot because you don't like them for presidential election. 490 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that and more here coming up in just 491 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: a moment. Start the year off with a money saving 492 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: flex switch your cell phone service from Verizon AT and 493 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: T or T Mobile to Pure Talk. Get phenomenal coverage 494 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: on America's most dependable five G network for just twenty 495 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: bucks a month. 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The comparison is absurd, and I 526 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: will explain how in detail, But be prepared for this 527 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: because lies can be very effective. You don't have to 528 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: get many people to believe a lie for it to 529 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: be meaningful in politics these days. So we shall address that. 530 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: And also you have Biden's first official campaign ad is out, 531 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: so it's you know, twenty twenty four, the campaign is starting. 532 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: And I will just say the one thing that people 533 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: that I know that I go to and I say, 534 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: how is it they can turn meaning the Democrats? How 535 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: can the Democrats turn this around at this stage given 536 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: where the polls are, where the numbers are and that 537 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: Biden is he is in the rapid decline phase. I 538 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: don't mean politically, I mean as a person. We all 539 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: see it, right, the decline is accelerating. How can that 540 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: be turned around? Well, the one thing I hear from 541 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: people other than my theory, which is weaponizing the apparatus, 542 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: prosecutions and take him off the ballot and whatever else 543 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: they can come up with. The other thing is the 544 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: just media onslaught that they're going to have about the 545 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: threats to our democracy. That does seem to be what 546 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: the primary effort of Joe Biden his campaign will be, 547 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: at least in terms of the messaging that if Trump wins, 548 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: it's the end of our country. I mean, you know, 549 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: he's such a uniter that he's like, vote for the 550 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: other guy, and life as we know it stops. Remember 551 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: the great scene in Ghostbusters where Venkman is talking to 552 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: Egon and he's like, I'm fuzzy on the whole good 553 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: bad thing. What do you mean by bad? When they're 554 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: talking about across the streams? And he's like, try to 555 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: imagine every cell in your body exploding at the speed 556 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: of light. And then yeah, and then what's his name? 557 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: Not Winston. The other guy Spangler, No, that's Egan Spangler, Trunam. 558 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: Who's the third guy, Ray? 559 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: No? 560 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: Ray, it's Ray Ray who's played by Bankman? Is Bill Murray? 561 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: Dan Ackroyd, thank you, dan Ackroyd goes, he goes total 562 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: total protonic reversal. Right, remember that? You know? So? Yeah? 563 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: Why was I saying about things? 564 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 565 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's basically what the Biden. It's we're crossing 566 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: the streams. If Trump wins total protonic reversal, every cell 567 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: in your body will explode at the speed of light. 568 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: I think you know that's not true, but they don't care. 569 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna keep saying it. Uh. Dana from Ohio wants 570 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: to talk FBI Epstein. What's going on, Dana? 571 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: Why didn't the FBI put guards on this inside of 572 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: this house? 573 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 574 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: And when they went away and left him, you know, 575 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 4: as elaborate as at this a story facility was, Are 576 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 4: there secret packageways where people can get in and out 577 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: and take things as that no one ever sees them? 578 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 4: And Bill Barr, how useless that man is? Something like 579 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: this happened under his watch, this man being murdered in 580 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: the cell. He should have put him in the military 581 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: base and kept him there with with military guards. So 582 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: no one that could have done this to him. 583 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, Danna, to your first question, it's the 584 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: essential question, and obviously I don't have an answer for it. 585 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: I would just say no because I think no one does, right, 586 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean, what do you mean? Imagine Thank you for 587 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: calling in, Dana. Imagine this everybody. A murder happens, The 588 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: FBI shows up to the murder, they put caution tape. 589 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Now I know FBI usually doesn't handle his standard murder, 590 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: but they can't handle murder. Depends anyway they put. They 591 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: put you know, caution or you know, police tape or 592 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: whatever around it. And there and and there's a weapon 593 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: lying there on the street. There's there's the gun, the 594 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 2: murder weapon. And they're like, you know, we don't actually 595 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: have the right to take that. We'll come back in 596 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: four days and the murder weapons gone when they get back. 597 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: Does anyone think that that's something that could be considered 598 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: acceptable in any universe? Now, this wasn't a murder weapon, 599 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: but it was probably the most important information around Epstein 600 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: that you could possibly find, which is what was on 601 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: the tapes, Who was on the tapes. You'll notice not 602 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: a single person, not one person in Epstein's orbit, has 603 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: been said to be found on these tapes. How is 604 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: that possible? How is it possible? Interesting question, isn't it? 605 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: Robert and san Antonio? What have you got for us? 606 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 3: Well, what I have to say is, compared to Hunter 607 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 3: Biden and his laptop, we know that he was involved 608 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: with such trade, that he's trafficking women, yet he hasn't 609 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: been charged of anything, and it's just been no word 610 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: at all. 611 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the I I'd have to look into 612 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: what the uh. Look, we know the Hunter Biden's broken 613 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: the law, and thank you for calling in Robert in 614 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: a whole. I mean, it's illegal to be doing crack. 615 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: It's illegal to lie in a gun for him when 616 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: you're doing drugs. It's illegal to take mine, you know, 617 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: to take bribes, it's illegal to not pay your taxes. 618 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 2: I mean, he's committed a lot of crimes. Prostitution, which 619 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: he certainly engaged in, is illegal as far as I 620 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: know in the state of Delaware. Some states like Nevada 621 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: has some allowance for it, right, but Delaware clearly does not. 622 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: But I you know, I think maybe if if you're 623 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: if you're talking about, you know, reaching out to women 624 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: across state lines and having them cross state lines for 625 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: the Prostitution Act, that I think that becomes uh federal 626 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: for But I don't know if Hunter Biden did that, 627 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: I'd have to look back at the at the record. 628 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I mean Hunter Biden as a walking, 629 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: talking felony and we all know it so and somehow 630 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: it took sheer embarrassment by the regime to even bring 631 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: the charges, and they're bringing them so late that, as 632 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: I've told you all along, and I don't enjoy saying this, 633 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden will not spend a day in prison, not one, 634 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: mark my words, not one single day. Let's talk about 635 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: this Democrat report because this really fires me up. About 636 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: how Trump got millions in foreign payments. Nah, not really, 637 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: that's actually not how it works, but the lying about him. 638 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: Will discuss. We got the latest Biden ad. It's crazy. 639 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I got so much more I want to 640 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: talking about. We got many hours of show and only 641 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: two hours left, so we'll get into it. Oh my gosh. 642 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: And this this criminal in Nevada who jumped at a judge, 643 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it.