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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jack, Katie and He Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: The Blue Ghost lunar Lander already harded work firefly spacecraft

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Speaker 3: making a historic touchdown on the Moon. Blue Ghost teaming

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Speaker 3: up with NASA, the agency using private companies as advance

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Speaker 3: scouts before sending humans back to the Moon with the

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Speaker 3: Artemis Missions. Parts of the spacecraft made with three D printing.

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Speaker 3: The lander carrying ten specific experiments for NASA, including a

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Speaker 3: drill and a vacuum to study moondust, along with technology

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Speaker 3: that can help NASA astronauts navigate future landings.

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Speaker 2: A vacuum to study moon dust. You say, cleaning up

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Speaker 2: the moon vacuum?

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Speaker 4: Moon?

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Speaker 5: Great again, that's why the female space trip that they're

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Speaker 5: Blue Origin.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna fly the women up there to wield the vacuum.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're suggesting, you pig, you monster? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Oh that reminds me. I want to hit

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Speaker 1: you with two very brief females, the first one speaking

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Speaker 1: of that sort of joke. Uh powllo, right, So I've

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Speaker 1: never heard the word miss injury or some people say

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Speaker 1: miss andry. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't even know what it means.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it means the hatred of men. It's like misogyny

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Speaker 1: hatred of women. And I'm sure it isn't because nobody

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Speaker 1: has a hatred of men. At least some fraction of

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Speaker 1: those who use misogyny and anger are likely misinterests.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people use the word in anger.

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Speaker 2: So why is the word practically unheard of?

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Speaker 1: If miss injury is so accepted in ubiquitous that we

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Speaker 1: don't need a special word for it's just the normal condition.

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Speaker 2: What gives?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's more socially acceptable to hate men than it

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Speaker 1: is to hate women. Perhaps, but there's got to be

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Speaker 1: more to it than that. I don't actually think there is.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it exactly. To hate men is socially

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Speaker 1: acceptable among the sort of people who throw around words

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Speaker 1: like misogyny. Anyway, and then I wanted to throw this

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Speaker 1: then and then make him move along with the show.

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Speaker 2: But who killed Gene Hackman? Oh boy?

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Speaker 1: We received a number of theories via text and email.

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite for its sure, what were you drinking?

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Speaker 2: Nos? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Considering the mummification angle, I think we need to look

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Speaker 1: at Senator Menendez, right, who had such a close relationship

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Speaker 1: with Egypt that they were sending him gold bars.

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Speaker 2: Where do mummies come from? Connect the dots?

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Speaker 1: Wow, No, they weren't literally like turned into mummies.

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Speaker 5: The obviously designed to provoke misogynist joke that I made

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Speaker 5: reminded me of the bit on Saturday Night Live with

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Speaker 5: Shane Gillis where they had an evening newscast and you

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Speaker 5: add two white anchors and two black anchors, and then

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Speaker 5: they would start into their news story and try to

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Speaker 5: predict whether the the person that did the crime was

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Speaker 5: white or black, and they were keeping score. Wow on

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Speaker 5: the newscast, Wow, it was pretty funny. A Matthew, a

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Speaker 5: meph User robbed a bank. That's a white guy, Keenan

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Speaker 5: Thompson would say. And then it was you know something else,

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Speaker 5: somebody was selling knockoff T shirts outside a game.

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Speaker 2: What are yours? You know? That is edgy but pretty funny. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So coming up, hey, block excuse me, a blockbuster gender

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Speaker 1: bending madness update with a major new scientific study that

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Speaker 1: makes it clear that one of the ridiculous claims by

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Speaker 1: the woke crowd is ridiculous most of us have thought

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Speaker 1: for a long time. But a couple of bat fever

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Speaker 1: related stories, and again, perhaps you can cast your memory

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Speaker 1: back a couple of years to the giant pandemic that

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Speaker 1: killed millions of people, shut down the schools, unnecessarily screwed

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Speaker 1: up our kids. Oh my god, headline number one compala Uganda.

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Speaker 1: Oh that reminds me one other thing I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Tourism to North Korea is on the rise.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I ended up standing up really late last night watching

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Speaker 5: two different like mini documentaries made by some of the

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Speaker 5: recent people going to North Korea. North Korea has opened

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Speaker 5: up for the first time since COVID, so first time

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Speaker 5: British guy made a little quick documentary that he already posted.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting to watch, I'll bet it is. I got

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Speaker 2: to travel around a little bit North Korea and even the.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously they're putting their best spin on how

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Speaker 5: that they show the people And you said that was YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I was watching on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Let's come up with a link and post it at

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Speaker 5: Times is it's it's interesting and kind of funny, but

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Speaker 5: you eventually get to really sad these people, I mean,

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Speaker 5: they're they're they're being treated like caged animals.

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Speaker 1: Horrible. Yeah, so if somebody said to you, hey, uh,

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Speaker 2: I'd go immediately if I had the chance.

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Speaker 1: My only concern is that as a high profile American,

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Speaker 1: well medium put, well low profile, but not as low

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Speaker 1: as some people American, that they concot some phony charge

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Speaker 1: and trade me for something. Well it's a little tower

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that could always happen. This tour group thing that

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Speaker 5: I was watching looked fairly safe, you know, as long

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Speaker 5: But they laid out the rules pretty pretty well. You're

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Speaker 5: not allowed to talk to anybody and not allowed to

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Speaker 5: ask any questions. You know, you got to stay with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you'd have to. You absolutely have to away.

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Speaker 1: So a fast spreading mystery ill. This link to bats

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Speaker 1: has killed scores of people in the Democratic Republic of Congo,

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Speaker 1: with nearly half dying within forty eight hours of showing symptoms.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, the World Health Organization said Thursday, that sounds

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Speaker 5: significantly worse than what COVID was.

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Speaker 1: The disease which causes brace yourselves.

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Speaker 2: What Joe sneezing and flew like symptoms, if.

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Speaker 1: Only fatigue, the disease that's right in sleepiness. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: disease which causes uncontrolled bleeding, vomiting, dia, rahia and other

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Speaker 1: symptoms of hemorrhagic fever, had infected eleven hundred people and

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Speaker 5: As freaking awful as COVID was, we got pretty lucky

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Speaker 1: That would be or this disease you just described, holy

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Speaker 1: which Randy wine Garten and the teachers mobsters wanted you

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Speaker 1: to ignore. They pretended was not the case. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: Practice practice practice? That's right?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, So Africa's keepn an eye on a horrendous bat

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Speaker 2: In a headline that you cannot believe, Israel.

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Speaker 1: Wuhan COVID lab planning ominous new bats experiments now quote

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Speaker 1: unquote ominous from critics of it. Obviously they're not billing

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Speaker 5: We're going to start well next month. Is this like

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Speaker 5: teaching a bat to ride a bike? I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: an interesting exeenty you think.

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Speaker 2: That'd have to be a tiny little bike.

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Speaker 1: Chinese scientists are planning quote unquote ominist o'minist experiment similar

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Speaker 1: have warned. The Wuhan Institute of Virology published new research

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Speaker 5: How's that place still open with the same name. I

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Speaker 1: And we'll never mention this again now. I'm sure Jack

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Speaker 1: that they've assured the world. Hey, that window that accidentally

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Speaker 2: So that's just a delightful headline.

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Speaker 1: I hope doctor found involved with his fine standards of safety.

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Speaker 5: We would lose our minds if another virus got on

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Speaker 5: the loose, especially one that was like more deadly and scarier.

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Speaker 2: God, I can't imagine how the world would go nuts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with although I think I'm not sure I agree

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Speaker 5: We probably do the same thing we do with actual wars,

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Speaker 1: And I've got a really really interesting analysis of what

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Speaker 1: that would do to prices and why, and it varies

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Speaker 1: actually does it tomorrow because they're supposed to go into effect.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, or is it in Trumpian style of bluff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, right, and then the kind of thing they

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Speaker 5: do on cable news all the time, were you discuss

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Speaker 1: Yeah, though this is interesting. It's a little like discussing

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Speaker 1: war with Belgium. I mean, if it's not gonna happen,

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Speaker 2: I think we could take Belgium. I like our chances.

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Speaker 5: Got some great weight loss news, perhaps like the next

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Speaker 5: big thing after ozempic and Wagovia stuff, the next big thing.

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Speaker 2: This could be huge.

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Speaker 5: And I want to get to that Gallup poll about

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Speaker 5: people's attitudes about Israel ain't good. A bunch of other

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Speaker 5: stuff on the way to stay here.

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Speaker 6: DOUN can announce that it will stop charging you more

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Speaker 6: money if you ask for plant based milk in your coffee,

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Speaker 6: but they will keep calling you a pussy.

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Speaker 2: Don't appreciate the language about so phonny joke.

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Speaker 1: And I would like plant based milk. Plays maybe you're

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Speaker 1: lactose intolerant. I should not mock you. I apologize and

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Speaker 1: tell the story more fully later. But when anybody comes

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Speaker 1: You know, that's funny hat it hadn't even occurred to

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Speaker 1: One of the great lies of the if I pretend

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Speaker 2: Did you see the movie on Nora Katie?

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Speaker 5: Somebody on the show How to watch it? It's on YouTube,

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Speaker 5: It's only two hours long. It's not like one of

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Speaker 2: A little more on the blow up in the Oval Office.

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Speaker 5: We got to get to more opinions and stuff and

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Speaker 2: Stay here, Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 5: Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has decided to run

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Speaker 5: Andrew Cuomo was run out of office by a sex

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Speaker 5: he thinks he's gonna be mayor. Man, these people just

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Speaker 1: One party state, one party city. It makes it a

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Speaker 2: God, you'd think I'm not in jail. I'm still alive. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Combination of ego and greed, Yeah, I think so. A

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't think we should do this character

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Speaker 2: just ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. What was I gonna say? I

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Speaker 1: Second aside, I am having a banana for my mid

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Speaker 2: That really weird.

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Speaker 2: Not that debilitating. It doesn't sound like No.

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Speaker 2: So if I don't care, neither does anybody else. Time

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Speaker 1: Gender bending man is young update my goodness, minds.

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Speaker 5: I haven't been to one of these competitions where this happens.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't want to work that. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: So we're making progress in this fight, but it's far

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Speaker 5: markets and I fished a great bat out of a

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Speaker 5: barrel of lukewarm water, put it on a stick, and dang,

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Speaker 5: that's good eating.

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Speaker 2: I don't care anybody says beautiful beautiful anyway.

443
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Speaker 1: So I was trying to do the right thing, and

444
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Speaker 1: the very outsized, angry lunatic activist class is trying to

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Speaker 1: get them to relent. Probably not going to happen. The

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Speaker 1: bill in question would additionally require birth certificates in Iowa

447
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Speaker 1: to reflect the biological reality of a person's sex at birth,

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Speaker 1: and would redefine sex to mean the state of being

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Speaker 1: either male or female as observed or clinically verified at birth,

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Speaker 1: which is precisely what sex is, right, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: would redefine it as in.

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Speaker 2: Go back to the definition.

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Speaker 1: And the whole trick of starting to use the word

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Speaker 1: gender and then well, of course gender means you can

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Speaker 1: be anything you want.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, sex means the same as gender. No, no,

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Speaker 2: stop it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this is what I wanted to work up to,

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Speaker 1: because this is really big. This is published in the

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Speaker 1: Journal of Sexual Medicine and comes from I think Oxford,

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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 2: I had that in front of me anyway.

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Speaker 1: The headline is examining gender specific mental health risks after

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Speaker 1: gender affirming surgery, so they use the gender bending madness

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Speaker 1: approved term of gender affirming surgery. I would I call

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Speaker 1: it sexual appearance altering surgery? Anyway, it's a national gender

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Speaker 1: based studaba the background, transgender individuals face heightened psychological distress,

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Speaker 1: including depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, partly due to stigma and

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Speaker 1: lack of gender affirmation. Their aim is to evaluate mental

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Speaker 1: health outcomes in transgender individuals with gender just for you

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Speaker 1: have undergone procedures and the results are. They found out

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Speaker 1: that males with surgery showed a higher prevalence of depression

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Speaker 1: and anxiety. Females exhibited similar trends with elevated depression, especially

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Speaker 1: feminizing individuals. Clinical suggestions is that the claims about you

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Speaker 1: have to do this or they'll kill themselves are not

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Speaker 1: only not true, they're the opposite of true.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's.

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Speaker 1: A gender affirming surgery, they write. While beneficial in affirming

479
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Speaker 1: gender identity whatever that means, affirming your psychological problem is

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Speaker 1: associated with increased risk of mental health issues, underscoring the

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Speaker 1: need for ongoing health support.

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Speaker 2: Co signing their bs, as they sometimes call it in

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Speaker 2: the therapy world.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, if your little boy thinks he's a pirate,

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Speaker 1: you poke out his eye and saw off his leg

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Speaker 1: and get him a parrot. Here's the truth, and I

487
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Speaker 1: have laid this on ye before.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 1: In the vast majority of cases, there are many people

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Speaker 1: who are uncomfortable in their own skin, uncomfortable with life,

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Speaker 1: and they spend their life wishing they were someone else

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Speaker 1: because they're not happy. It's not exactly an uncommon sentiment

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Speaker 1: in humankind. Some people decide, if I lived here, if

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Speaker 1: I married her, if I had this car or whatever status,

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Speaker 1: then I'll be happy and confident and comfortable in my

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Speaker 1: own skin. Other people think, you know what my problem is,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually a dude or I'm actually a girl.

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Speaker 2: If I were that, then I'd be happy and confident

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Speaker 2: and comfortable in my own skin. And for a little while,

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Speaker 2: you're so excited to change.

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Speaker 1: It's like you know, you moved somewhere else and it's

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Speaker 1: exciting and you're meeting people and the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: But when the reality sets in that, oh, I'm every

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Speaker 1: bit as unhappy as I used to be, and I've

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Speaker 1: altered my life and my ability to have children. I've

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Speaker 1: browbeaten everybody I know into going along with this, and

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Speaker 1: it didn't help. That's really blanking depressing, and I sympathize

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Speaker 1: with those people.

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Speaker 2: But I the activist type who whisked.

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Speaker 1: These people along the conveyor belt for their bizarre ideological

511
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Speaker 1: reasons or neo Marxism or whatever it is. You people

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Speaker 1: are villains. You're either villains or fools or both.

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Speaker 5: Well, and I'll say, for the tenth time, I know

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Speaker 5: somebody who is a therapist who said, most therapists go

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Speaker 5: full in on affirming this, decide to change their sex. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and so they they're whisked on down the road as

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Speaker 5: you just talk about. But this particular therapist said, I've

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Speaker 5: had a couple of people come in and I talked

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Speaker 5: them out of it in like a minute.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, And the vast, vast majority of young people

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Speaker 1: who struggle with this stuff grow.

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Speaker 2: Out of it. Study after study has shown that.

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Speaker 1: So again, the people who whisked them down the conveyor

524
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Speaker 1: belt are either evil or fools or both. It's a

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Speaker 1: gender bending madness update.

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Speaker 6: There you have.

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Speaker 5: We got to nail down the hole it's going on

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Speaker 5: with Jeffrey Epstein files. I can't quite figure that out.

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Speaker 5: I can't figure out what people's attitudes are. I was

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Speaker 5: bouncing around on social media and there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: of the maga world that was really looking forward to

532
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Speaker 5: the Epstein Files coming out last week, and then Pam

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Speaker 5: BONDI stop somehow, and now she's in on it, or she's.

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Speaker 1: Saying it's the row GEFTBI that won't give it up.

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Speaker 1: So cash Ptel's like heighten the not the theory, or

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Speaker 1: his underlings aren't giving him cooperation. I don't know I

537
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Speaker 1: have it's not really my priority me either. That story

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Speaker 1: out me either while I'm busy solving the mystery of

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Speaker 1: the death of Gene Hackman.

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Speaker 4: For instance, Yes, Katie uh headline from the Babylon b

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Speaker 4: claiming that the Epstein Files shredded themselves.

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Speaker 2: That's clever, that's pretty funny.

543
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Speaker 5: We got a little more on the blow up in

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Speaker 5: the Oval office from Friday, some more commentary on that,

545
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Speaker 5: among other things, stay here, hey, you gotta be more thankful,

546
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Speaker 5: because let me.

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Speaker 2: Tell you, you don't have the cards.

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Speaker 5: With us, you have the cards, but without us, you

549
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Speaker 5: don't have any cards.

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Speaker 2: And what you're doing is.

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Speaker 1: Very disrespectful to the country, this country. Have you said

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Speaker 1: thank you once that entire meeting, No, in this entire

553
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Speaker 1: meetia have you said thank you?

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Speaker 5: I don't like that vibe. But again you got to

555
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Speaker 5: take in the whole thing. Well, I wish it hadn't

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Speaker 5: happened at all. I don't think it benefited anybody other

557
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Speaker 5: than as practically everybody has said it benefited Vladimir Putin.

558
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Speaker 5: But some of my favorite pundits who I know are

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Speaker 5: hard core Zolensky fans. Well first of this, so tweeted

560
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Speaker 5: out about this on Friday. We caught the very end

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Speaker 5: of it on Friday, said a couple of things, and

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Speaker 5: then got lots of response on social media. So now

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Speaker 5: you guys understand that he is a corrupt dictator Charlatan order.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. That didn't prove that at all.

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Speaker 5: No, No, he handled this poorly, But you know, none

566
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Speaker 5: of that other stuff is true anyway. Lex Friedman, I

567
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Speaker 5: don't know if you ever listen to his podcasts, one

568
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Speaker 5: of the most popular podcasts in the world, and he

569
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Speaker 5: is he was born in Ukraine or Russia, and he

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Speaker 5: is big time on the side of we got to

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Speaker 5: spport Ukraine. Anyway, This is what he tweeted out afterwards

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Speaker 5: on Friday. The amount of disrespect President Zelensky showed to

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump and the American people today was insane. This

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Speaker 5: was a mistake. I have tremendous respect for President Zelensky

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Speaker 5: for the heroic actions he took in the early days

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Speaker 5: of the war, but diplomacy at this stage obviously required

577
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: showing respect to world leaders, even more so during these tense,

578
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Speaker 5: difficult peace negotiations.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 5: And then from the National Review, which mostly in the

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Speaker 5: National Review see on the right or publications and podcasts

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Speaker 5: and TV shows where you have differing opinions, as opposed

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Speaker 5: on the left, where all their publications, podcasts and TV

584
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Speaker 5: shows everybody exactly agrees. I don't know what that's all about.

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Speaker 5: But a National Review, most of the writers there are

586
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Speaker 5: big fans of a supporting Ukraine and think it's important

587
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Speaker 5: and like Zelensky, and Rich Lowry is one of them,

588
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Speaker 5: but he wrote this is Zelensky an idiot as someone

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Speaker 5: who wishes Ukraine well. I was shocked at how poorly

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Speaker 5: Zelensky handled yesterday. It was complete malpractice. It was wrong

591
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Speaker 5: of Trump and Vance to braid him the way they did.

592
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 5: But if you are a vulnerable foreign leader in a

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Speaker 5: situation where the president of your leading patron mightrate you

594
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Speaker 5: in public, the priority is not to get berated. Nothing

595
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Speaker 5: else matters, not your pride, not points of substantive disagreement,

596
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Speaker 5: not your potential peak at sitting in close proximity to

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Speaker 5: one of your fiercest critics, in the person of JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance.

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Speaker 5: If Zilensky had been playing by these rules, the first

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Speaker 5: thing he should have done was wear a business suit.

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Speaker 5: If you would have been, it would have been notable,

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Speaker 5: signed as a sign of respect and would have removed

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Speaker 5: a point of.

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Speaker 2: Friction with Trump. That's what I was talking about earlier.

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Speaker 5: You know, he really hates that that you're not wearing

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Speaker 5: a suit, So I guess just wear a suit because

607
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Speaker 5: he hates that so much. If he and his team

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Speaker 5: are halfway competent, they would take an account of the

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Speaker 5: fact that the president supporters absolutely hate his fatigues. It

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Speaker 5: also made Zelensky seem smaller when things went south, that

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Speaker 5: he wasn't dressed appropriately. That is a weird visual thing,

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Speaker 5: but I think I agree with that. When I said

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Speaker 5: this on Acts, people replied that Elon Musk doesn't wear

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Speaker 5: a suit in the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 5: When Zelensky has named the head of DOGE, he can

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Speaker 5: do the same and get away with it. In the meantime,

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Speaker 5: it would have cost him absolutely nothing to violate his

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Speaker 5: satorial practice for one very important day. Then there was

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Speaker 5: the substance of the Oval Office meeting. All Zelensky needed

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Speaker 5: to do was say, one, the war never would have

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Speaker 5: happened if Trump had been president. Two, I appreciate the

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Speaker 5: efforts for peace. Three Ukrainians two want peace, but also

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Speaker 5: what's best for our country. Four and I look forward

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Speaker 5: to our discussions. Wash went rinse and repeat.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: If he had done that, he'd come out just fine,

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't difficult when the whole thing blew up.

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Speaker 5: He couldn't even manage to sound appropriately regretful on Special

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Speaker 5: Report in the afternoon on Fox, which wouldn't have been

631
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Speaker 5: hard either. You can root for good reason the way

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Speaker 5: that Trump views this conflict in how he expects to

633
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Speaker 5: get fluffed by people he meets and talks with. But

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Speaker 5: it's reality. All sorts of foreign actors have taken this

635
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Speaker 5: on board and reacted accordingly to protect their interests, except

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Speaker 5: the one guy who has the most to lose by

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Speaker 5: stupidly refus using to play by the simple, easy to

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Speaker 5: understand rules. Zelensky dressed in his usual fashion and scored

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Speaker 5: some nice debating points in the Oval Office yesterday.

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Speaker 2: What did that get him or his country? And to

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Speaker 2: not well as usual.

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Speaker 1: I agree completely with rich and to not have the

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Speaker 1: diplomatic phrase handy something the effect of when Trump says,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think we can deal with Putin.

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Speaker 1: We can make a deal with them, to not have

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Speaker 1: a Hey, there are challenges ahead. I'm always cautious about

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Speaker 1: dealing with Putin, but with the President's help, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we can come to a good outcome.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's a way of saying that's not settled, but and

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Speaker 1: not arguing with who whoa whoa.

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Speaker 2: You can't trust Putin on TV? No, no, no, you can't. No,

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Speaker 2: that's not a good idea. Sh His advisors were thinking,

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Speaker 2: we do four hours every day.

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Speaker 5: If you miss a segment or an hour, get the

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Speaker 5: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand our four on the

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Speaker 5: Way

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty