1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with Nick Right, the best takes and moments from this 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: week on the show Enjoy. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: All Right. About two weeks remaining, and the MVP race 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: is getting spicy. So SGA is still the favorite at 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: minus three hundred, followed by wimby Luca and then Jokic, 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: all with great cases. Two questions, is this the greatest 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: MVP race that we've ever seen? And why is Luca's 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: case so polarizing? 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: Okay, so we will the main course of this is 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Luca the little Amus Bouche appetizer. Is is this the 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: greatest MVP race we've ever seen? And the answer to 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: that question is unequivocally, absolutely, without argument no, because there 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: is it. To be totally fair, I didn't do pencil 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: to paper go through every MVP race to see if 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: this one has an argument for second place, because it 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: didn't seem like a use of good use of my time, 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: because I knew it did not have an argument for 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: first place. Because the greatest MVP race of all time 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: and one of the most ridiculous is and we've talked 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: about it once before on the show, but we will 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: talk about it once more. Here. The nineteen sixty two 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: NBA MVP race is one of the greatest one of 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: the greatest pages on the Internet, on the whole Internet, 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: al Gore's entire Internet. One of the greatest pages that 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: exists is the Basketball Reference nineteen sixty one sixty two 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: NBA Awards voting page, where if you go there you 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: will see that season. Coming in sixth in the MVP 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: race bullet Bob Pettitt, who averaged a tidy thirty one 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: points nineteen rebounds a game. He got two first place votes. 31 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: He came in sixth. Coming in fifth in that MVP 32 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: race was Jerry West, who averaged a nice and tidy 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: thirty one points, eight rebounds, five assists. Coming in fourth 34 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: in that MVP race was Elgin Baylor, who averaged thirty 35 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: eight points, nineteen rebounds, five assists. However, only played forty 36 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: eight games because he was in the military and could 37 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: only play part time. He was trying to going back 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: and forth between. You know, I don't know if it 39 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: was the weekends he could play or the weekends he couldn't, 40 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is. But you know, while he wasn't in 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the US military, he was a part time basketball player, 42 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: giving you thirty eight to nineteen. However, third place that 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: year was Oscar Robertson, the first year or anyone in 44 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: the history of the league ever averaged a triple double, 45 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: came in third. He averaged thirty one points, thirteen rebounds, 46 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: eleven assists, a nice tidy third and second place, with 47 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: only nine first place votes was Wilt Chamberlain, who that 48 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: season averaged forty eight and a half minutes, meaning he 49 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: averaged more minutes than there were in the games because 50 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: he never subbed out essentially the whole year and played overtimes, 51 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: and while averaging forty eight and a half minutes, he 52 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: actually averaged more points. A nice clean for Wilt fifty 53 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: point twenty six rebound a game average on forty eight 54 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: and a half minutes a night. However, that was only 55 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: enough to finish a distant, distant second to Bill Russell, 56 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: who averaged nineteen points and twenty four rebounds. Folks, I 57 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: wasn't there. I can't tell you how it happened. I 58 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: just know that happened. I know that Billy Bill Russell 59 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: ran away with it, averaging nineteen and twenty four. Will 60 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: was fifty and twenty six, playing every minute of every 61 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: game all year. The Big O average thirty one thirteen 62 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: and eleven. Elgin gave you thirty eight nineteen while also 63 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: serving the country and that so I don't here. This 64 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: top four is pretty sick. It doesn't quite match up 65 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: to the nineteen sixty one sixty two NBA Awards voting. 66 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: Now that that is taking caravan out of the way, 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: we will discuss what is happening right now with Luca, 68 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: which is bordering on a little insane. Okay, because folks 69 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: are in real time, I fear recreating the history of 70 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: this season and also recreating their own belief in what 71 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: these Lakers could be. Because going into the Lakers have 72 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: already smashed the over on their win total, many people, 73 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: smart people that I respect, thought this Lakers team would 74 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: stone miss the playoffs. They already have fifty wins, They 75 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: have already clinched a playoff spot. They are a huge 76 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: favorite to be the three seed. They also have a 77 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: very decent chance of finishing with a better record than 78 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: every team in the East except for Detroit. Right now, 79 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: they're sitting fifty wins. The Celtics are sitting at fifty wins, 80 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: and they have done that despite the fact that they 81 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: made no major moves at the deadline, and Austin Reeves 82 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: and Lebron James have missed a combined forty seven games, 83 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: which means they have done that based on the overwhelming 84 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: strength of Luka Doncic offensive wonder kind. And there are 85 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: two things happening with the Luca MVP discussion. Three things actually, One, 86 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: folks are pretending the Lakers were expected to be this good. 87 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: They were not. And early in the year, when they 88 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: were the three seed and Luca was averaging thirty three 89 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: a night, the discussion happening in real time was, well, 90 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: they've beat up on some bad teams. They've gotten very 91 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: lucky and close wins. The clutch numbers won't sustain. This 92 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: team is not as good as its record suggests. Before 93 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: the year, they were eight behind but almost universally behind 94 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: Oka see in projections Oka see obviously Denver no problem, 95 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Houston having added Kevin Durant Minnesota. Yes, the Los Angeles 96 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Clippers were a much more popular regular season pick. Now 97 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: they were not behind the Spurs for most people, because 98 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: the Spurs have greatly overachieved their expectation, and part of 99 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: that is a testament to Wimby no doubt about it. 100 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: And that's just in the Western Conference, much less where 101 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: they would stack up throughout the league as a whole. 102 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: So that happened people reframing what they thought the Lakers 103 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: expectations were this year. That is happening in real time. 104 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Another thing that is happening in real time, people pretending 105 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: like Luca just started having an awesome season. He was 106 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: the Western Conference Player of the Month for January. Luca's 107 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: month by month numbers this year are October. He started 108 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the year off averaging forty five a game. Okay, but 109 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that's three games in October. In October, he averaged forty 110 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: five a game. In December, I'm sorry. In November, pardon 111 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: me sorry, when the Lakers lost two games. All month 112 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: that he played in, Luca averaged thirty three, eight and ten. 113 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: That's December. That's November. Pardon me December, when the Lakers 114 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: weren't that good, and when h Luca missed a couple 115 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: games due to injury or he just missed a couple games, 116 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: he was down to thirty one, seven and seven. Then 117 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: January rolls around, He's player of the month with thirty four, 118 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: seven and nine. March was the one bad month. The 119 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Lakers were bad. It wrapped around the All Star Game. 120 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: He was, he dealt with the injury and was twenty 121 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: seven at nine, and then March rolls around, and for 122 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: the month of March he's thirty eight, eight and seven 123 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: and the Lakers have lost twice. And if they gave 124 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: away Player of the Month for March, I don't know 125 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: that they do. I think they might combine March in April, 126 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: but it would be him again. So folks pretending as 127 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: if he just started being excellent is not true. 128 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: Now. 129 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: What is true is if you had asked me in 130 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: mid February where he was, and I think we did 131 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: it on this show. In the MVP race, I would 132 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: have had him sixth in mid February. I would have 133 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: had Shay. I don't know if Wimby was quite there. 134 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: Shaye Joker, Jalen Brown, Caden, Wimby all ahead of him. So, 135 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: which is why I have not gotten on here and 136 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: said he's clearly the MVP. Shae has been that consistently 137 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: excellent all throughout the year. But I do think Luca 138 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: is gaining massive, massive ground. And the last plank of 139 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: this is folks have simply overstated how awful his defense is. 140 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: Is luk Adancic a an excellent defensive player? Obviously not. 141 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Is Lukadancic a good defensive player? I don't think so. 142 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: Is luk Adncic one of the worst defensive players in 143 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: the league by no possible metric? Can you feel that now? 144 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: Do Luca's defensive low lights rank among the worst of 145 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: any player in the league? Absolutely, the plays where he's 146 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: just out to lunch defensively, Yes, and that is a 147 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: fair criticism of it. But my pal Mannix talking about 148 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: individual defensive rating as if that is a real thing 149 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: when it really isn't. That's a team in a lineup 150 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: stat I think is unfair. 151 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: As he rebounds, do you think he kind of reverses 152 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: that at all? I mean, I shouldn't say it all, 153 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: but like I feel like the fact that he's such 154 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: a good rebounder playing point guard it should play a little. 155 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Bit worse of that. Well, yes, and I mean that's 156 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: been a big part. Ask Daniel about you. Look up 157 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: the the advanced metrics tell us that you know, Bill Russell, 158 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: you were great. But the greatest defense to big man 159 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: of all time is Nikola Jokic. All of us know 160 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: that's nonsense, But the reason for that is because the 161 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: advanced metrics really value defensive rebounding ending a possession. And 162 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: so I understand Luca is polarizing, Okay, I get that. 163 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: I understand that Luca annoys people. I get that, and 164 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: I understand that at times Luke is his own worst enemy. 165 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: I get all of that. But we are moving the 166 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: goalposts on this player in a wildly unfair manner. The 167 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Lakers do not have a great defensive roster, and Luca 168 00:13:54,200 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: is obviously a part of that. And they now have 169 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: tied with the Clippers for the nineteenth best defense in basketball, 170 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: and that's, you know, not very good. It is ahead 171 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: of Denver, by the way, and it is improving and 172 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: has been improving, particularly over the last month. But for 173 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: us to in real time try to change what the 174 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: historic qualifiers for League MVPR, in my opinion, in service 175 00:14:52,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: of one guy's candidacy in Victor Windminyama and against another 176 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: guy's candidacy and Luke ad Ancic, which is an award 177 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: that has never been fifty defense fifty offense. Changing it up, 178 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: I think is disingenuous. 179 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: Goes a percentage of it that's defense though. 180 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Of course, no, of course I listen. I think historically, 181 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: if you look at the winners, historically it's been ninety 182 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: ten offense defense. As far as what is valued now, 183 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: there are outliers, and interestingly enough, one of them was 184 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: the sixty two MVP race, where there were they there 185 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: was a guy who averaged thirty point triple novel, a 186 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: guy who verged fifty a night, and then a guy 187 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: who averaged twenty what was it nineteen in twenty four 188 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: or something? Yeah, no, no, twenty six rebounds, nineteen points. 189 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: But he was so devastatingly impactful on defense that he 190 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: won the award. Now, he also was a champion, considered 191 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: the you know, greatest winner in the sport. Had you 192 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: know at that point Bill Russell had accomplished more than Wemby, 193 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: which plays you know a bit of a factor into it. 194 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: But there are guys that can change the rules on 195 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: all right, it's ninety ten for other guys, But this 196 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: guy's defensive impact is so overwhelming, so overwhelming that he 197 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: should win the award. So I understand folks saying Wimby's 198 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: defensive impact is just unlike everyone else's. That is a 199 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: fair argument. It is not a fair argument to say 200 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm not even considering Luca because he doesn't play both 201 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: ends of the court. Not if you voted for James Harden, 202 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Not if you weren't throwing your into higher body in 203 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: front of Steve Nash going first, first second in MVP voting, 204 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: Not if you were part of Steph Curry over Lebron 205 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: multiple times. Don't, don't don't tell me you're you're weighing 206 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: this on two way impact. And here's the other thing 207 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: about Wimby's specific candidacy. You it is, in my again 208 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: not always so humble opinion, outrageous to give him extra 209 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: credit in the MVP race for how few minutes per 210 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: game he's playing. If you want to give the Spurs 211 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: extra credit for how much of a contender they are, 212 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: because it's like, well, shit, what about when Wimby is 213 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: playing thirty eight minutes a game instead of twenty nine? 214 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Totally makes sense. If you want to talk about what 215 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: this means for Wimby's upper limit potential, about well, what 216 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: about when he plays the minutes all the other candidates play. 217 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm all for that as well. There are a lot 218 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: of things where Wimby's minutes per game should come into 219 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: the conversation, but his ability to win the MVP Award 220 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: is not one of them. When a stat that I 221 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: think will absolutely blow your mind Demnsey and I want 222 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: to get this exactly right. This year, Victor winbin Yama 223 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: has played ninety fewer minutes than Lebron. Victor Winbinyama this 224 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: year is one hundredth in the NBA in minutes, one hundredth. 225 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: Now you can again say that means, oh my god, 226 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna win six titles and ten Defensive Player of 227 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: the Year awards, and the Spurs are gonna be unstoppable, 228 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: all of that. But what I don't think you can 229 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: say is what I don't think is accurate is the 230 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: that Wimby's the gap between Luca's offense and Wimby's offense 231 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: is twenty points created a game conservatively Lucas points plus 232 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: assists versus Wimby's points plus assists. And there's more to it. 233 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: And I know all of sudden Wimby's. We've created a 234 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: new term called role gravity or lob gravity or something. 235 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, the corner threes they're generating. I've watched 236 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: an NBA for my entire life. I've never heard this 237 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: term great, but the gap between So you have this 238 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: size gap between Luke and Wimby's off offense, Now you 239 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: can say you have an even bigger gap between Luke 240 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: and Wimby's defense, no problem. But is it is Wimby's 241 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: impact in one thousand, seven hundred and fifty five minutes 242 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: his defensive impact that much greater to where it overcomes 243 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: the fact that Luca has played five hundred more minutes 244 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: the equivalent of for again, at Wimby's minutes per game 245 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine five hundred minutes, it's an extra sixteen games. 246 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: It's not enough for me. And again, if someone I 247 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: think there are and I haven't even talked about Joker 248 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: on this, and we'll get to him in a second. 249 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: If if someone makes the argues for here's why Wimby's 250 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: the MVP, Nobody thought the Spurs would be this good. 251 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: He's so far and away the best defensive player in 252 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: the sport. I ain't that is a legitimate argument, Shay, obviously, 253 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: as a legitimate argument. Joker, who will get to obviously 254 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: as a legitimate argument. What I find so galling, and 255 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: I probably overused that word, is folks. A lot of 256 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: folks are acting as if Luca does not have a 257 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: legitimate argument. God dog right, this guy, a guy who's 258 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: averaging almost thirty four a game for an overachieving three seed, 259 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: who's second and third best player, both have missed a 260 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: third of the season. That guy, every time, every year 261 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: in NBA history, had a legitimate argument for the MVP, 262 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: and Luca is not going to come close to it. 263 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's unfortunate, And so go ahead to mind. 264 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, over the course of the next two weeks. 265 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see five games where where the two of 266 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: the candidates of the MVP race will face each other. 267 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: So first we got okay see, they'll play the Lakers 268 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: twice and Denver once. Denver will play the Spurs twice 269 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: and okay see once, and the Spurs will play Denver twice, 270 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: and then the Lakers will play okay See twice. 271 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah those two times. Yeah, so listen, I think I 272 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: think Shae. One of the reasons I believe Shae is 273 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: a huge favorite to win this award is and we're 274 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: talking more about okay See in a few I think 275 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: Shae has a floor of second place on ballots. So 276 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: I think Shae is going to get first and seconds, 277 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: and I think Wimby is going to get first, second, third, 278 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: and fourths. And I think Joker is going to get 279 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: not a lot of first, but second, third, and fourths. 280 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: And I and so I think that there have been 281 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: instances in the history of this award with the guy 282 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: with the most first place votes doesn't win it. That 283 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: happened to Berkley, It's happened a few times. I think 284 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: Shaye probably gets the most firsts and wins the award, 285 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: But I also think there's a world where Wimby gets 286 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: the most first and doesn't win it because Shay's is 287 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: all first and seconds with a couple of thirds. Me 288 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: Wimby is first, seconds, thirds, fourths, and that drags that 289 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: drags him down. I also just I think that this 290 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: only becomes a very close conversation if the Spurs finished 291 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: with the one seed. 292 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: And I have just so you don't think in those 293 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: games there could be any any taking of the torch. 294 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Well, the problem is the Spurs don't play the Thunder. Yeah, 295 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: and the Spurs did die. Is Wemby mentioned the Spurs 296 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: dominated the Thunder when they played him earlier this year 297 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Wimby was playing in a couple of those games played 298 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes, was not like was not the which Again, 299 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: all of these arguments could be arguments as to why 300 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the title, all these things, but the 301 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: MVP is not a hypothetical award. It's not well what 302 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: they could have done. And so I just don't Lucas 303 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: in a weird spot and it'd be I want to 304 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: say one other thing about Luca and then we'll talk 305 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: joker it. It's also really weird that he is treated 306 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: this way despite the fact that he has been every 307 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: year of his playoff career an absolute playoff killer, just 308 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: a killer. Is first year in the playoffs against what 309 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: everyone thought was the best team in the league, Kawhi, 310 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: Paul George Clippers. In that playoff series as a huge underdog, 311 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: puts up thirty one, nine, I'm sorry, ten and nine. 312 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: They lose in six. His next year in the playoffs, 313 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: again against Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, he's being guarded 314 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of his possessions by Pete Kawhi and 315 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Paul George. They lose in seven. As a big underdog, 316 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: he averages thirty six, eight, and ten. His next year 317 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they're underdogs in round two against the 318 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: favorite Suns. He makes Devin Booker cry, almost gives you 319 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: thirty two to ten and six that playoff run. They 320 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: then missed the playoffs one year, and his next time 321 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he carries the MAVs to the finals, 322 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: beating Shay than beating Ant And then last year obviously 323 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: wasn't you know he wasn't He was thirty points a 324 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: game in those playoffs. Again in the one round against 325 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: the Timberwlves. That was a disaster for the Lakers. There's 326 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: no doubt, no no way around that. But it's just 327 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: is he a perfect player? No? Does he deserve more 328 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: respect from the people and more and folks doing a 329 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: closer introspection on Wait a minute, I didn't think the 330 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: Lakers had any shot at contending. I thought the Lakers 331 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: might miss the playoffs again. Not nick right, But folks 332 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: out there, they're the They've got fifty wins, they have 333 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: the same number of wins as Boston. They they are 334 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: They've been the three seed a good portion of the 335 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: season and our huge favorite to be it. Bron has 336 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: taken on another role Austin suffered a major injury, that 337 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: the team is leaning heavily on DeAndre Ayton and Marcus 338 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: Smart and Lucas is out there fire breathing every night. 339 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: What's that worth? All right? Go ahead on Joker. 340 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: Jokics will have average a trip, will double and be 341 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: the first player to lead in rebounds and assist ever 342 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: if he hadn't already run a bunch, you think that 343 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: he'd be the front runner for the race. 344 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: If he had zero MVPs. Probably right, And listen, Daniel 345 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: put in this a I'm not gonna call it a 346 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: whining question, but it felt a little whining from Nuggets 347 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: fan Daniel when he says jo Kics is leveled up 348 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: every year, So is he just ineligible to win it 349 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: this point? He's not ineligible to win and he's having 350 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: an awesome year. And if folks want to make the 351 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: case that Jokic this year is having a more impressive 352 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: season than some previous years when I didn't think he 353 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: should have been MVP and he won it, so be it. 354 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 1: But they are any The Nuggets, I think by a 355 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: hair as a team have underachieved this year. They have 356 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: been awful in the clutch. They don't feel like frontline 357 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: A list contenders at the moment, and Joker has three MVPs, 358 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: so I don't think people are win. The three guys 359 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion ahead of him in the race four 360 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: if you include Jalen Brown, I don't as far as 361 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: ahead of Joker, all have better records, all their team 362 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: and you know, seems to be in a better position 363 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: to win a championship. I'm not worried about the fact 364 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: that Joker, as great as he is, isn't going to 365 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, get his fourth MVP in the last six years. 366 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: I think I think we'll all be okay on that. 367 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, 368 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet Florida Sportsbook. 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Is this way 405 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: worse than what you thought? 406 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's way worse than what I thought, 407 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: but here's what I firms it well. I also find 408 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: it interesting that this story can exist, meaning that you 409 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: had ten people with the Eagles in various ways kind 410 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: of throwing shade at their franchise quarterback or their head coach. 411 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: That this story can't exist in Kansas City. You can't 412 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: write it. There's You're just you're not gonna find three people, 413 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: much less double digit sources. They're gonna be like, here's 414 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: the problem with Patrick. This story can't exist in Buffalo. 415 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: This story kind of existed in Baltimore and the head 416 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: coach got and that. But the head coach is out, 417 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, the stories like this 418 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: don't come out of thin air, and here is so 419 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: it just kind of rapid fire takeaways on it. You 420 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: you said more AJ brown frustrations came to light. I 421 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: looked at a little bit differently. I looked at it 422 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: as this story, to me, demons is a little confirmation 423 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: as to why AJ Brown being such a pain in 424 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: the ass the last two years did not seem to 425 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: hurt his popularity in that locker room or standing amongst teammates. 426 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: That even if AJ Brown's methods of messaging were clumsy 427 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: or unprofessional, that it seems like there were enough people 428 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: in that building that were like, at least someone saying 429 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: something that it you know, created it inoculated him a 430 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: bit from what I think could be problematic if nobody 431 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: was if everybody was like, man Aj is such a diva, 432 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: just want his stats everything else, then I think Aja 433 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: would not still have been as stable in that locker 434 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: room as he seemed to be. So that you know that, 435 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: to me jumped. Another thing that jumped from this article 436 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: was them really zeroing in on Jalen's there's leadership style 437 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: and play style. We'll start with playstyle. Jalen's allergy to 438 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: playing the position certain ways, more under center, more play action, 439 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: turning his back to the defense, more pre snap motions, 440 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: those types of things that can make things easier for 441 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: receivers and quarterbacks if they're willing to do it, and 442 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: the way that truly limited their passing game, and Jalen 443 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: not wanting to adjust from there. Another piece of the 444 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: story that I thought was really fascinating was one of 445 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: the most criticized moments of the Eagles season late in 446 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: the year ten to seven against Green Bay, when Siriani 447 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: decided to go for a fourth down. And I'm going 448 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: to pull up the time score situation exactly because I 449 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: remember us seeing when it happened. I came on the 450 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: show and I couldn't believe it that Sirianni not only 451 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: went for the fourth down now that obviously is his call. Oh, 452 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't late in the season. It was early in 453 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: the season. Pardon me, I mean the exact midway point 454 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: of the year. But So here's the time score situation. 455 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: Green Bay is out of time. It is fourth and 456 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: six for the Eagles at the green Bay thirty five 457 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: yard line. So and there's thirty three seconds left, and 458 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: so Siriani chose not to kick the field goal, which 459 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: I think probably was smart because you missed that field goal. 460 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, they're near midfield, and 461 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: felt they were too close to punt. I disagreed with 462 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: that piece of it. I thought, you punt, try to 463 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: pin him back. Whatever. He decided to go for it, 464 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: which was I thought questionable. But then what we really 465 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: criticized was the play call was a bomb down the 466 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: left sideline from Jalen Hurts a J. Brown. This article 467 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: revealed they just called that on their own, and that 468 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: Jalen will occasionally just call stuff on his own or 469 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: draw up routes essentially on his own. That was not 470 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: what they'd practiced or what the play design was. Man, 471 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, you need to have Ayer's 472 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: success rate at it, then Jalen has had certainly last year. 473 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. And then here is another criticism, 474 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: and then the big picture piece of it. They said 475 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: in the article that Jalen's has this Kobe Bryant, Michael 476 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: Jordan's style of leadership. This is maybe going to be 477 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: a controversial take, and I want to make sure I 478 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: say it right. I don't know that Kobe Bryant and 479 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's leadership styles were good. I think they were 480 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: effective for them specifically, and it would that leadership style 481 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: is not, in general the right way to be a 482 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: leader and can only work if your individual excellence is unimpeachable. 483 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 484 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 2: Because it's Kobe and Jordan like those rights one. 485 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: Of one's exactly. So I just think that Again, people 486 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: roll their eyes at my Mahome stuff, but it's it's 487 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: all true. It's not at all Patrick's style of leadership 488 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: the Kobe or Jordan's style. But he's probably the only 489 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league that, if it were, could get 490 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: away with it. Like, what are we going to say 491 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: to this guy? You know what I mean? He's the 492 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: he's the best. He is going to go down in 493 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: history as the greatest or on the very like Kobe, 494 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: on the very short list of greatest. What are we 495 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: gonna do? 496 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: So? 497 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: I just I think that could if I used the 498 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: wrong camp on the TV show yesterday when this came up. 499 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: But I want to use an NBA comp like, I 500 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: don't think the Kobe or Jordan's style of leadership would 501 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: if when not, I can't use him because they didn't 502 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: they didn't have any success, and Jalen obviously has had 503 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot of success. If Tyrese Halliburton was like, I 504 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: have a Kobe or Lebron style or a Kobe or 505 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: Jordan's style of leadership, I think people might be like, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, listen, 506 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: you're really good. Don't get me wrong, but we're not 507 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: quite there yet. And then here's the football read on it. 508 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: It's very simple. And this is where the Russell Wilson 509 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: comps just continue a pace because Russell Wilson, like Jalen Hurts, 510 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: went to two different colleges because one place didn't want 511 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: him anymore. Like Russell Wilson, Jalen Hurts has won everywhere. 512 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: Like Russell Wilson, went to two Super Bowls very early, 513 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: winning one, losing one. Like Russell Wilson, particularly early in 514 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: his career, had real questions about what a precise thrower 515 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: he is. With that said, the one type of throw 516 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: that from the very beginning he was excellent at was 517 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: the deep ball, like Russell Wilson, seemed to have very 518 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: odd relationships with teammates. Like Russell Wilson, there was a 519 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: real debate about how much credit he should get for 520 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: winning a championship on that team with that style. And 521 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: here is where Russell Wilson to his credit in the 522 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: second half of his Seahawks career. Adjusted, once Russell Wilson 523 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: stopped being this dynamic, scrambling running threat, he did develop 524 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: as a better passer. Jalen Hurts his first full time 525 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: year as a starter, ran for seven hundred and eighty 526 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: five yards. His second and the TD numbers I are 527 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: weird because of the tush push piece of it, so 528 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to calculate those. His second 529 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: year as a starter he ran for seven hundred and 530 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: sixty yards. His first year it was five point six 531 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: of carrey, his second year's four point six a carry. 532 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: His third years a starter, he ran for six hundred 533 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: and five yards at three point nine yards of carry. 534 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: Is fourth years a starter ran for six hundred and 535 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: thirty yards at four point two to carry, and last 536 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: year he ran for four hundred and twenty one yards 537 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: at four point zero a carry. If you are going 538 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: to no longer be a true dynamic on any snap 539 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback, you must do what Rust did and 540 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 1: greatly improve as a passer. Russell Wilson his second years, 541 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: third year as a starter, ran for eight hundred and 542 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: fifty yards by you know, by twenty eighteen, his seventh 543 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: year as a starter, that was down to three. He 544 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 1: went from eight fifty his third year to three hundred 545 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: and seventy six and no rushing touchdowns his seventh year. 546 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: But that year he threw for thirty five touchdowns, seven interceptions, 547 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: had a one ten rating. The next years he had 548 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: a combined one h five ratings, seventy one touchdowns, eighty picks, 549 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: and threw for more than four thousand yards each year. 550 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: So if the running is not going to be as 551 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: big of a part of your game, you he's he's 552 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: got to get better as a precision, fully developed passer, 553 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: or he's got to lean into the running more like 554 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: he used to. And this is the last thing I'll 555 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: say on this to Moisey Siriani is obviously on the 556 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: hot seat. Jalen Hurts seat is warmer than a guy 557 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: who is fourteen months removed from winning Super Bowl, MVP's 558 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: seat has any business being Does that make like the 559 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: you would think he had a three year minimum grace 560 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: and it feels like it might be two year minimum 561 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: grace period. And then some did this not at all 562 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: conversations go ahead? 563 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: This didn't take away any flack on Sirianni, Like you 564 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: don't think his seat gut a little bit cooler with this? 565 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: Well, it seems like some of the criticisms in the 566 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: article was that Sirianni doesn't you know, won't criticize Jalen 567 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: or won't you know isn't going to So I don't know, 568 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: I it did in that. I do give Sirianni credit 569 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: on that play that I talked about against Green Bay. 570 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: He went to the press conference and said he called 571 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: it right, and you know, throw him, So I do. 572 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: He is good at taking blame for other guys stuff, 573 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the reasons his players 574 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: love him, and so I will give him credit for that. 575 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna talk about another quarterback in the second. 576 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: But first, boost Mobile is proving that you don't have 577 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: to overpay for great wireless unlock the savings with the 578 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a month Forever Unlimited Plan. 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For full off. 587 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: For details, visit boostmobile dot com. 588 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 2: CAW three ass Where do you think the big four 589 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 2: quarterbacks of the NFL Mahomes Alan Lamarin Burrow will rank 590 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 2: when they all retire? 591 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: What a great question? Yeah no, no, no, well so they're 592 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: all time rank. So let me see if I can 593 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: find my all time QB pyramid, just to give it 594 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: some context here. I'm pretty sure. Hold on, I'm pretty sure. 595 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: All time Mountain, I think is what I called it. 596 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: I have it in my docks. Let me see if 597 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: I can find it real quick. I apologize off the. 598 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: Top of it, like, would they all be in the 599 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 2: top ten? 600 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 1: No? No way, okay, no, no, no, no. So listen, Mahomes 601 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: is in my eyes already two and the running down 602 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: Brady is going to be hard. I understand that. I 603 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: believe he can do it, but the smart bet for 604 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 1: Mahomes is that he'll slot in it too. Right now 605 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: this moment, who do you think is higher all time demand? 606 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: Say Alan or Lamar. 607 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: I'd have to give it to Lamar. I mean obviously 608 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: I do too. 609 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. I think 610 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: that even though even though Lamar has struggled in the postseason, 611 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: I still think that he is. He his two m vps, 612 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: his regular season numbers are so magnificent, and I think 613 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: that he is Okay, I finally found it. I think 614 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 1: that he is ahead of Josh. I don't think he'll 615 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,959 Speaker 1: finish ahead of Josh because I think he's more likely 616 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: to win an MVP or to win a Super Bowl 617 00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: Josh is than Lamar. So I think with Mark, I 618 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: think that Josh will finish like right around where Steve 619 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: Young Kurt Warner are, which is for me, like right 620 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: outside the top ten modern era, and by modern era, 621 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean post Merger, So I'm not counting Star unitas 622 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: Graham baw those guys are out so like the oldest 623 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that I'm ranking are Staubach and Bradshaw. But for me, 624 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: the top ten post merger quarterbacks again not including the 625 00:49:51,800 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: super old guys Brady Mahomes, Manning, Montana, Marino, l Way, Rogers, 626 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: fav Far, Staubach, Bradshaw, that you're ten with Steve Young, 627 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, Troy Aikman, Drew Brees, and you know, Lamar 628 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: with two MVP's got to be in that mix. At 629 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: the moment, I think that Josh Allen is going to 630 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: finish right around of the of you know, post merger 631 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: Steve Young Kurt Warner area. I think Lamar is going 632 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: to finish right around the Big Ben fifteen sixteen area. 633 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: And I think that Burrow is going to finish in 634 00:50:52,280 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: the Matt Stafford area like twenty twenty two something something 635 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: like that, like outside the That's how I think it's 636 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: gonna go. And I don't know if that's gonna be 637 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: fair to Burrow, but I think Burrow drew the NUH 638 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: franchise to be drafted. To listen, I think Stafford's a 639 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: great I think what he's done with the Rams is unbelievable, 640 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: but I can't put Stafford's career ahead of Big Ben 641 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: or Drew Brees, you know what I mean. I can 642 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: put him ahead of Philip Rivers, put him ahead of 643 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. But like right now, I think Joe Burrow 644 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: is an underdog to make the Hall of Fame. I 645 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: just think that the injuries, plus the lack of team 646 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: success and the you know, that's just so putting in 647 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: Stafford right now. I think just cemented himself as a 648 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer this past year with the MVP. So 649 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: that's where I you know, if we're doing all the time, 650 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I like that a lot. 651 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: All right, Next, Asa asks do you think Lamar has 652 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 2: overachieved everyone's early career expectations considering the fact that everyone, 653 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 2: including his own team, asked on him in the first round? 654 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 2: And also why does everyone love Joe Burrow more than Lamar? 655 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that everyone loves Joe Burrow more 656 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: than Lamar. But look, there is a faction of folks 657 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: that when they say who are the best quarterbacks? And 658 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: I fall into this, sometimes what they are saying is 659 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: who are the best passers? Yeah, like they are removing right, 660 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: they are removing they are giving, like the credit you 661 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: get for what you do with your legs somehow doesn't 662 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: fall into like the quarterback rankings, and listen, I'm guilty 663 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: of that sometimes that probably is affected my feelings on Burrow, 664 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: my feelings in the other direction on Jalen Hurts for Lamar. 665 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: I you know everybody knows. My big hang up with 666 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: Lamar is the postseason stuff that I just think he 667 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: gets in his own head and doesn't play nearly as 668 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: like himself. But has he overachieved everyone's early career expectations 669 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: by a mile? 670 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 2: Like? 671 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he he was the final pick of 672 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: the first round, and his first full time year as 673 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: a starter, he was unanimous MVP it, so he has 674 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: way over he's He would have over achieved people's early 675 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: career expectations if he was the number one pick of 676 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: the draft. Uh he and so like I mean he 677 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: is And I know this sounds like damning with faint praise. 678 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: He is one of the greatest regular season players ever, 679 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: like full stop he is that, which is why he 680 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 1: only needs one great playoff run or even one playoff 681 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: run where he's not great but the team wins anyway 682 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: to just be stamped, not that he's not already stamped, 683 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: but that's I know, right, But he so yes, but 684 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: he has shattered expectations shattered, all right. 685 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 2: Next, uh, Curtis asked Nick, what is your Mount Rushmore 686 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: or the greatest sports moments in history? 687 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: So I am going to there's two ways to answer 688 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 1: this question. One way is to like just remove me 689 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: from it, be like the greatest sports moments ever, and 690 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: then you're like, well, Jesse Owens making right. So I'm 691 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna kind of like if it was just like, hey, Nick, 692 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: give me the definitive four greatest sports moments in history, 693 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: you'd have to be like, well, a lot of them 694 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: are not even really. It's like Jackie Robinson breaking the 695 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: color barrier, Jesse Owens making Hitler look like a fool 696 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 1: at the Olympics in front of him, the miracle on ice. 697 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: It's a lot, you know, a lot of Olympic social, 698 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: political things. But he asked me, my, So I'm gonna 699 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: do it my goosebumps, favorite greatest sports moments that I've 700 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: seen in my life, and I'm going to re like 701 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: so Tiger winning his final Masters in twenty nineteen, when 702 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 1: he you know, he hadn't won in a decade. It 703 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: looked like he was done. That is on there for me. 704 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,720 Speaker 1: Lebron's block in Game seven of the Finals on Iguadala 705 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: leading to that championship, that is is on there for me. 706 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 3: Uh, the the the drive. 707 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: In overtime down three in the Super Bowl for Mahomes 708 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs to cement the dynasty and win back 709 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: to back against the Niners. That's on there for me. 710 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: And usein Bolt at the Olympics. 711 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 2: Uh, just. 712 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: Pounding his chest while finishing the one hundred meter is 713 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: on there for me. Just the Those are those are 714 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: When I say them, I get goosebumps again. Those are 715 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 1: those are for me? My four favorite watched it can 716 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 1: remember where I watched it, how I watched it, what 717 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: I was doing, moments for me as a sports fan. 718 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: So for whatever it's worth,