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Speaker 1: about here today, at the least of which is last
Speaker 1: night's Monday Night Raw. We have a little over. Well,
Speaker 1: we got two weeks until the Helen a Cell Show,
Speaker 1: and we got matches for Helen a Cell, so you
Speaker 1: talk about that to the Raw show last night and more.
Speaker 1: We've also got n x T two point oh Tonight
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is a w Dynamite. Tomorrow's the go home Dynamite
Speaker 1: for the Double or Nothing Show, which is coming up
Speaker 1: this weekend. Obviously there's a rampage on Friday, and if
Speaker 1: you are one of those folks go to Las Vegas
Speaker 1: for Double or Nothing weekend, well be in the building
Speaker 1: at about two o'clock on Friday, because the show is
Speaker 1: gonna start at two thirty Pacific five thirty eastern, and uh,
Speaker 1: that looks to be the plan, but they're gonna they're
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Speaker 1: I suppose you can go live to tape or whatever.
Speaker 1: But to thirty Pacific five thirty eastern is when the
Speaker 1: show is going to start on Friday. We'll give you
Speaker 1: the lineup for all of these shows. There's a lot
Speaker 1: coming up, so we'll talk about that here today on
Speaker 1: the show. Thankfully, we got nothing regarding Sasha and Naomi,
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Speaker 1: Brian Over is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simber b
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Speaker 1: a lot of big shows coming up, everybody. Our favorite
Speaker 1: show at x T two point oh takes place tonight.
Speaker 1: The itamly takes place on on Wednesday, Rampage on Friday.
Speaker 1: We actually have matches for next week's raw already. But
Speaker 1: here's what we got coming up everyone. Tonight on n
Speaker 1: x T two point oh, braun Breaker is going to
Speaker 1: be facing Duke Hudson, who's six five, in a non
Speaker 1: title match. Mandy Rose will be facing Indie Heartwell in
Speaker 1: a non titled match. Pretty Deadly Only facing Roderick Strong
Speaker 1: and David Kemp in a non titled match. These titles
Speaker 1: are very prestigious, Dress and No Fe and Malika Blade
Speaker 1: versus Stacks and two dimes, which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: was alerted yesterday. The two dimes is also I guess
Speaker 1: a term for like a life sentence in prison two
Speaker 1: dimes twenty years. It's not a life sentence. Well, life
Speaker 1: sentence is normally twenty years. That's why you can get
Speaker 1: consecutive life sentences. What are you talking about? Where have
Speaker 1: you been? Bro It depends on if you anyway, this
Speaker 1: guy ain't even twenty, so I'm not sure how even
Speaker 1: got two times unless he committed some horrible crime when
Speaker 1: he was zero. Maybe it's because he's twenty. That's how
Speaker 1: you had ten plus ten two twenty years old? Two times?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Elbow fire and electro Lopez and Wesley versus Shunga?
Speaker 1: He was born in prison? This guy says, oh, man,
Speaker 1: what how long is a life sentence? It's like eighty
Speaker 1: years or sixty years or something. Life sentence any type
Speaker 1: of imprisonment where defendant is required to remain in prison
Speaker 1: for all of their natural life or until parole. So
Speaker 1: how long is a life sentence? Well, in most of
Speaker 1: the United States, a life sentence means a person in
Speaker 1: prison for fifteen years with the chance of parole. So
Speaker 1: there you go, soft parole boards. I guess letting people
Speaker 1: out early, raising Arizona or something like that. But there
Speaker 1: are multiple types of life imprisonment. There's uh fifteen years
Speaker 1: to life twenty five years to life, life with mercy,
Speaker 1: indeterminate life sentences, life without the possibility of parole, life
Speaker 1: without mercy, etcetera, etcetera. But the point is without mercy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you imagine that? Damn? I should have had funt
Speaker 1: Leroy read those to life though, that's the one that
Speaker 1: sounds most familiar. So we really don't know what what
Speaker 1: two times what his name is all about. I think
Speaker 1: he's got twenty cents to his name, but other people
Speaker 1: have suggested other things. And I mean, we don't really
Speaker 1: know what stax means either. When he gets cut in
Speaker 1: three months, I guess one we'll find that out. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he's really into paper this stacks. Maybe he works
Speaker 1: at a print shop. I don't know. We do anything
Speaker 1: about these two guys. Maybe he likes playing Djanga Dynamo it.
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, we have FTR versus Rapunk device for the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor World Take Team Titles. So they got
Speaker 1: titles on the line on this show, brother, we got
Speaker 1: some O Joe Kylo Reiley Men's Tournaments Semifinal, Britt Baker,
Speaker 1: Tony Storm Women's Tournament Semifinal, Ward Lows Shan Spears with
Speaker 1: m JF is the referee, Jungle Boys, Swerve Strickland and
Speaker 1: Ricky Starks in a three way see him Punk and
Speaker 1: Hangman Page will have a confrontation and just added thunder
Speaker 1: Rosa will be interviewed by Tony Hivanni. Oh no, it
Speaker 1: never works out well. It's becoming a parody now, this
Speaker 1: this whole deal with her and it's this has not
Speaker 1: been the title reign that I would have expected that
Speaker 1: thunder Rosa would have like, try to turn this one around.
Speaker 1: I don't know if an interview segment with Tony Hivoni
Speaker 1: is going to do it, because you know Nyla Rose
Speaker 1: that one didn't work out too well. And ye, these
Speaker 1: things just don't work out well. And of course Raw
Speaker 1: next week if you do not see Raw, will do
Speaker 1: the Raw report after the break. But it was originally
Speaker 1: going to be Oscar versus Bianca bell Air at Helen
Speaker 1: his Cell because Oscar had beaten Becky Lynch last week.
Speaker 1: But Becky got put into another match this week where
Speaker 1: if she won she would be added to the match.
Speaker 1: So she won. Now it's a three way, so next
Speaker 1: week on the go Home Raw you get to see
Speaker 1: the match. There was originally the championship match at Helena's Cell.
Speaker 1: It will be Oscar versus Bianca bell Air non title
Speaker 1: next week and the return to action of Lacey Evans.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out one way or the other. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that I expect to find out next week
Speaker 1: if she has a baby face or if they're actually
Speaker 1: going hell with Lacey, because it was and you know
Speaker 1: how these things go. The plan was that she would
Speaker 1: be a hell. Once everybody heard that, they just were
Speaker 1: like a ghast. So it's possible the they're gonna go
Speaker 1: baby face with her, But I guess we'll find out
Speaker 1: on Monday. Listen. I have no problem long term with
Speaker 1: going heel with Lacey Evans. At some point you can
Speaker 1: make some sort of change. But to do all of that,
Speaker 1: because you know what, you can only do it once.
Speaker 1: It's like the Cameron Grimes deal. I mean, if that
Speaker 1: guy would have lost, how many times can he go
Speaker 1: back to the same story about how he promised his
Speaker 1: father he would win a title in n x T.
Speaker 1: I mean you could, but I mean the jump it
Speaker 1: was strike when the iron is hot. Have her work
Speaker 1: as a baby face, see how over she can get
Speaker 1: as a baby face, and then eventually fine, turn her heel,
Speaker 1: but you can never do this six weeks of vignettes
Speaker 1: again to get her over as a heroic baby face.
Speaker 1: So don't miss his up, you idiots. That's my advice
Speaker 1: nobody ever takes. We returning to Saudi Arabian November, maybe
Speaker 1: Lacy Evans can work on that show November five, so
Speaker 1: it'll be just a few weeks before the Survivor series.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, this is how they make their money.
Speaker 1: Sixty million dollars a show, approximately every time they do
Speaker 1: a show in Saudi Arabia. So if you're wondering why,
Speaker 1: well stacks and two times, maybe that's why. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna go there on November five, make their money. And
Speaker 1: that's the story. Christmas money. I can keep going if
Speaker 1: you want, Mike, well, what do you want me to
Speaker 1: add to that? Nothing smacked down two point zero three
Speaker 1: one million viewers, up eleven percent, largest audience for the
Speaker 1: show since April fifteen point four five in eighteen forty nine,
Speaker 1: So that's pretty good number there. Rampage heared at seven
Speaker 1: Eastern four on the West Coast, four thousand views up.
Speaker 1: Why am I so itchy? Well, Billy Kidman all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Now do you fleas over there? It's it's
Speaker 1: called it's called I've been crying about this weather new
Speaker 1: fabric soft. How we were eight days into May and
Speaker 1: we broke the record for rain. Eight days into the month,
Speaker 1: we've already broken the record, and then by by day
Speaker 1: fifteen we had double the rain we ever have in May.
Speaker 1: I was just ready to just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the sun came out
Speaker 1: the other day and it was like it was I
Speaker 1: think it hit like sixty eight or seventy and it
Speaker 1: was like a heat wave. We lost power and then
Speaker 1: like my allergies exploded. So yeah, that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I apologize for all the itching. Anyway, I think
Speaker 1: just mold and mildew up there. Most of the year,
Speaker 1: we don't have mold or mildew. We clean our houses.
Speaker 1: We don't what you think's going on. We leave everything
Speaker 1: out in the rain, we bring it inside. Does your
Speaker 1: help queen your house? Yeah, we actually hire people to
Speaker 1: clean this house. And if you saw this house, you
Speaker 1: you'd probably hire more people than we do. So ANYWAYUD
Speaker 1: viewers for rampage up twenty point six percent point one,
Speaker 1: five and eighteen best rating since April for the day
Speaker 1: on cable. Pretty soon this will all be over. They'll
Speaker 1: be back in their normal time slot. Then we can
Speaker 1: accurately judge them again. But that's that's the update, and
Speaker 1: that's the news. Everybody. Have you been watching the any
Speaker 1: of the New Japan Best of the Super Juniors? I
Speaker 1: have not watched one second of it. Oh man, I'm
Speaker 1: lot going on dude, Yeah, well is it good? Are
Speaker 1: you just gonna ask me the question and not answer
Speaker 1: did you watch the second? Yes? I've seen almost every
Speaker 1: match so far. It's been fantastic so far, but a
Speaker 1: lot of really good wrestling, and I can say, can
Speaker 1: you believe that? But I can see it like literally
Speaker 1: like three to three and a half star matches. There's
Speaker 1: been a couple of outliers that have been really good.
Speaker 1: That El Desperado is look fantastic being over there. Ace
Speaker 1: Austin from t NA has really impressed me being over there.
Speaker 1: He's been in perfectly so you know, I can see
Speaker 1: the g One starting off with a lot more fire
Speaker 1: than this has. But for a lot of guys, this
Speaker 1: is their first time in Japan, that's our first time
Speaker 1: working for New Japan and with some of the opponents
Speaker 1: they've been with, But you know, guys like Titan, Clarke, Connors,
Speaker 1: t J P, all of those guys have stood out. Well.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'll maybe I'll watch some after n
Speaker 1: x T two point out tonight. Back in a moment,
Speaker 1: Observer Live bagging the show. Bright Nowder is here Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer A Live, Mikes and re Vivi also Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot Com. Let's get this raw report out of the way.
Speaker 1: They will take your feedback and maybe your calls in
Speaker 1: the next segment. I mean, there was good stuff on
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, did you watch it? Man? Mett Riddle
Speaker 1: came out crying. I was crying so sad to have
Speaker 1: lost that match. And his friend Randy, Randy's been having
Speaker 1: a rough time last couple of years, back hurts, He's
Speaker 1: just in pain all the time, and he knew Randy
Speaker 1: didn't want to let him down. But he let Randy down,
Speaker 1: and Randy's not here tonight. And he looked in the
Speaker 1: came and he says, Randy, I just want you to
Speaker 1: know I love you. Fans are practically crying. It's very
Speaker 1: heart wrenching. Little segment right here then read to a
Speaker 1: match or led to a match. Riddle in the Street
Speaker 1: profits versus Sammy and the USOS because this, I mean,
Speaker 1: they haven't officially said anything, but the brand extension is
Speaker 1: it's essentially done. Half of the Raw crew is gonna
Speaker 1: be on SmackDown Friday. Cody's gonna be there. I think
Speaker 1: Seth is gonna be there. They're just doing whatever and
Speaker 1: it makes for a better show, as we mentioned a
Speaker 1: thousand times. So anyway, uh ended up with the USO's
Speaker 1: walking out on Sammy Zane. So Sammy's aids all by himself.
Speaker 1: One on three, Riddle hits him with the arcado and
Speaker 1: pins him, and they talked about how Riddle has has
Speaker 1: gotten his revenge. It's like he has. Anyway, he won,
Speaker 1: so that was nice. We had the Bobby Lashly Almighty
Speaker 1: Challenge and it was essentially Bobby Lashly coming out. And
Speaker 1: Lashly is not like a great promo, but the thing
Speaker 1: is like, he's a he's a legitimate bad dude, and
Speaker 1: so if the right guy you know, starts you know,
Speaker 1: saying the right things, he's actually pretty good. So he's
Speaker 1: challenged m v P to a match, and if the
Speaker 1: winner gets to choose the stipulations for Lashly versus Omas
Speaker 1: at Helen his cell. So, you know, m VP is
Speaker 1: like he doesn't really want to do the match, and
Speaker 1: so Lashly asks to be scared, and so then m
Speaker 1: v P launched into this pro bout I'm not scared,
Speaker 1: I made you, I'm a former blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: then Lashly Lashly gets all riled up and he starts
Speaker 1: I'm not kicking your ass tonight. It's actually turned into
Speaker 1: a pretty a promo segment. That was the entire first
Speaker 1: hour of the show. By the way, the whole first
Speaker 1: hour was those two segments. Then the judgment day comes
Speaker 1: out and they stand in the ring for eight minutes
Speaker 1: while they do commercials and backstage interviews with Data Brooke
Speaker 1: and and this and that Becky Lynch. Then they come
Speaker 1: back and they talk for another eight minutes, and so
Speaker 1: after about sixteen minutes, it's finally time for a match.
Speaker 1: What did they talk about, you ask? You know, they
Speaker 1: talked about it's because of the fans. It's the fans fault.
Speaker 1: Eight minutes of it's because of you fans. And it's
Speaker 1: even funnier because they're supposed to be heels and the
Speaker 1: fans supposed to hate them. And the first thing that
Speaker 1: that Damian Priest says is all rise and bro, you
Speaker 1: look in the background and all the fans rise, they rise,
Speaker 1: he says, all rise, and they're like, oh, he told
Speaker 1: us to stand up, and they all stand up and
Speaker 1: part Damian Priest, let's look around and go. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, like they're not listening to me, even though
Speaker 1: they did. These fans, these w w E fans or
Speaker 1: something else nowadays. So anyway, then a match was h
Speaker 1: and Damian Priest versus Live moregan in AJ styles. I
Speaker 1: do like by the way, that my favorite, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite wrestling names in the last decade was Punishment Martinez,
Speaker 1: which was the name of Damian Priest before they changed
Speaker 1: his name, so they can't call him that, but Edge
Speaker 1: repeatedly refers to him as the Punishment, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: So anyway, they had a good match and Edge of
Speaker 1: course interfered multiple times and finally cost Live more than
Speaker 1: the wind Ripley Pinder. And then the baby Faces get
Speaker 1: beaten and then they get beaten up you know heat,
Speaker 1: so they're all killed. We had a miss promo. God
Speaker 1: help me. We had Jerry Lawler's Kink's Court with Vir Mahan.
Speaker 1: Vir Mahan is the biggest, scariest, most imitating guy in storyline.
Speaker 1: So you know, seventy something year old Jerry Lawler goes
Speaker 1: out there. He just tells a bunch of jokes and
Speaker 1: makes fun of the guy. And they did do a
Speaker 1: quick promo with Vier, and then Lawyers was making more
Speaker 1: jokes and now Vier's like, well, I gott I guess
Speaker 1: I gotta kill you now, and so the mysterios run
Speaker 1: out and they clear the ring of vir Mahan. So
Speaker 1: it looks like we're gonna have multiple handicap matches at
Speaker 1: the pay per view, because you know in w W,
Speaker 1: it's like they have forty writers, but they all have
Speaker 1: the same one idea. So you know that's what happens here.
Speaker 1: They are one ideas. Uh, handicap matches. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna have too at the pay per view. The gimmick
Speaker 1: where you tease a count out and then the guy
Speaker 1: flies in the ring and then immediately gets pinned. We've
Speaker 1: seen that three times in the last two weeks between
Speaker 1: Ron Smackdow. We saw it again on this show. Alexa
Speaker 1: Bliss promo Alexa Blisses. I mean, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: was She's happy to be back. Let's just leave it
Speaker 1: at that. Then we had Alexibly beating nicky Ash. We've
Speaker 1: seen this match, you know, we saw it last week.
Speaker 1: We're seeing it again, the same match she won. Okay,
Speaker 1: third hour, they did the countdown clock for Cody. Cody
Speaker 1: is gonna be showing up nine fifty or whatever, so
Speaker 1: they play his music. He comes down cross going crazy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get to the ring. They shut the lights
Speaker 1: off and he has stand there for eight minutes because
Speaker 1: we got a commercial Oscar video package Oscar interview. Finally,
Speaker 1: the Miss does his entrance. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys are aware of this or not, but Cody's first
Speaker 1: match back was with the Miss and he beat him. Well,
Speaker 1: here we are. I got an idea. Let's just do
Speaker 1: it again. So they do the same match we've already seen.
Speaker 1: Nobody believes the Miss is beating Cody. MS has his
Speaker 1: good days, and he has his days and aren't so good.
Speaker 1: This was one of those days. Boring match misses underwater
Speaker 1: slow motion, and finally Cody goes up top and uh
Speaker 1: and seth Throns comes down and shoves him off the
Speaker 1: top and it's a d Q. Yeah. So he beats
Speaker 1: up Cody. And then earlier Cody had given his weight
Speaker 1: belt to some youngster and so for heat Seth goes
Speaker 1: and steals it back from the youngster. And he goes
Speaker 1: and he just gives It's only one whack, but man,
Speaker 1: he whacked Cody wax him with this belt and leaves
Speaker 1: and then Cody's he's limp in, he's selling his leg
Speaker 1: his backs all messed up, and he goes and he
Speaker 1: gives a belt back to the kid. What a baby face.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So then you know, talking about matches
Speaker 1: that we've seen before, because you know how many wrestlers
Speaker 1: do they have between two brands. God, I've seen the
Speaker 1: same matches over. I'm losing it now, try and reel
Speaker 1: myself in, reel myself in, Let it go, Come on
Speaker 1: to go. We see Ezekiel and Chad Gable again. This
Speaker 1: is the third match we're seeing again here in the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Last week he was at least
Speaker 1: good because Kevin owns Is on commentary was awesome. It
Speaker 1: was the best thing on the show. Well, this week
Speaker 1: it's w w E. So it's like, well, no one
Speaker 1: was paying attention to the match because of Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1: So he can be there, but he can't talk. So
Speaker 1: he's a ringside, but they don't le him do commentary.
Speaker 1: These blokes, Oh four minutes, nothing happened in match. I
Speaker 1: was begging for them to put the headset on Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1: Kevin Owens like he's off screen, He's like he's lying,
Speaker 1: he's a liar, like turning up the volumes. I could
Speaker 1: only hear Kevin Owens because the only interesting thing about
Speaker 1: this almost in a bad word about this stupid match.
Speaker 1: And then uh, and then you'll never guess. Actually Ezekiel
Speaker 1: pinned him. There was multiple interference, but the referee was
Speaker 1: was fine with it, and then Ezekiel got a cradle
Speaker 1: for the pin. So then Ezekiel bails. Kevin Owens wants
Speaker 1: to match with Ezekiel at Helen his cell and what
Speaker 1: do you do? Cody Rhodes promo where he talked about
Speaker 1: Helen a Cell. M v P versus lashly this match,
Speaker 1: my god, m VP has not wrestling a long time,
Speaker 1: and he's coming off knee surgery and this is one
Speaker 1: of those matches where you know, Jerry Lawler. They'll Jerry
Speaker 1: Lawler do anything. But Jerry Lawler is wrestling like multiple
Speaker 1: matches every week on the Indies, and you know you're thinking,
Speaker 1: well man, and then there you know, like Rick Flaer's
Speaker 1: got his match and everybody's worried about it. Dude, these
Speaker 1: guys went three minutes and I don't think MVP did
Speaker 1: one move in this whole match. He did one running
Speaker 1: They Accuza kick in the corner. He did nothing in
Speaker 1: this match. And finally they're outside and Bobby Lashly and
Speaker 1: Oh Moss start brawling. The refere he's looking right at
Speaker 1: on the outside. There brawling outside the ring. This is
Speaker 1: not a d Q, it's tad. The ref goes, hey nine,
Speaker 1: Taddy counts out Lashly as he's brawling with Omas, who
Speaker 1: is not in the match. So m v P wins.
Speaker 1: He gets to choose the stipulation. It will be a
Speaker 1: handicap match at Helen his Cell. M v P and
Speaker 1: Omas against Lashly at Helen his Cell. And then the
Speaker 1: announcers explained, well, you know they were brawling, but the
Speaker 1: ref never saw Lashly hit Omas. He only saw Omas.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was the other way around. He never
Speaker 1: saw Omas it Lashly. He only saw lashlet Omas, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't a d Q. It's like, well, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but why are you counting the guy out. Lacey Evans
Speaker 1: returns next week. Then the main event Becky Lynch and Oscar.
Speaker 1: In real life they got eleven minutes, but in your
Speaker 1: life they got six because we had a commercial break
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the match. It's like they
Speaker 1: did the same thing they always do. Bianca does her entrance.
Speaker 1: There's literally twenty one minutes left in the show, so
Speaker 1: they could have had like a really good match, but
Speaker 1: Bianca enters and then they go to commercial, and then
Speaker 1: Oscar that's her entrance, and then Becky has to do
Speaker 1: her entrance and they finally start the match, and then
Speaker 1: they go immediately to commercial and they come back and
Speaker 1: there's six minutes left and boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: They did the same finish. I was just mocking a
Speaker 1: moment ago Oscar tries to kick Becky, she kicks Bianca.
Speaker 1: Becky tries to throw Oscar into the table, but they
Speaker 1: screw up the spot and Oscar just falls down. Becky
Speaker 1: jumps in the ring and she wants Oscar to get
Speaker 1: counted out. Oscar makes in the ring at the last second,
Speaker 1: but Becky doesn't even hit her with a move. Oscar
Speaker 1: rolls into the ring and then just lays their dead
Speaker 1: and Becky pins her. That was a finish, So it
Speaker 1: is now a three way at Helen his cell And
Speaker 1: that was Raw. Back in a moment Observer Life. Back
Speaker 1: in the show, Bright albre is here wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Mike simbur Bby also wrestling Observing dot Com. I was
Speaker 1: chatting with the chat and uh has a lot of
Speaker 1: dumb things. Okay, but we don't need to invent dumb things,
Speaker 1: all right. Oscar is not being buried because she lost
Speaker 1: on Raw. What's happening is this is the booking they
Speaker 1: do for every single three way unless unless it involves
Speaker 1: Roman Range because he will never be pinned. But anybody
Speaker 1: else on the roster if they're in a three way,
Speaker 1: this is the exact booking that they do. Last week,
Speaker 1: Becky lost, this week, Oscar lost. Coming up on Monday,
Speaker 1: I bet you anything, Bianca is going to lose. This
Speaker 1: is their classic three way booking. Everybody loses to everybody
Speaker 1: else how many times? How many or somebody said this,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna buy the pay per view to
Speaker 1: find out which of you is the most successful loser,
Speaker 1: not like which one to use the best. You're all losers.
Speaker 1: You're all gonna lose. Becky lost, like you're all losing.
Speaker 1: So which one you can can manage to get out
Speaker 1: with one win? That's what you're paying for on pay
Speaker 1: per view? Now? Could they have done the finished better? Well,
Speaker 1: of course, but you can say that about virtually every
Speaker 1: single match. It's like when people are going, oh, Cody's
Speaker 1: being buried, he can't win. He keeps winning by d Q.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you watch the show or do you
Speaker 1: just like everybody loses via d Q all the time
Speaker 1: on every show, it's d Q, d Q, d Q
Speaker 1: count out, count out, distraction, distraction, distraction, distraction. What you
Speaker 1: have to look at is it's not, well, you know
Speaker 1: who's being pushed based on their win loss. Well, if
Speaker 1: you're looking at it that way, there's one person being
Speaker 1: pushed three I guess Roman reigns and the use those
Speaker 1: that's it. No one else in the entire company is
Speaker 1: being pushed. If you're gonna go buy a win loss record, alright,
Speaker 1: and even the use os have done non title jobs,
Speaker 1: So I guess we're down to only Roman Reigns. All right,
Speaker 1: So how do you determine who is a star if
Speaker 1: you can't go by win loss. Well, you look at
Speaker 1: everybody is presented on television, and to try to claim
Speaker 1: that Cody is not being presented as a star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a match with the miss with no heat. Okay,
Speaker 1: anything in the third hour is going to have no heat.
Speaker 1: You have a main event with Seth Rawlins and by
Speaker 1: that point the show it's gonna have no heat. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean Seth isn't a star. So are they doing a
Speaker 1: countdown clock for Cody? Are they telling you every week
Speaker 1: win Cody? Of course, right now, Cody is being pushed
Speaker 1: as the second biggest star in this company behind Roman Reigns. Now,
Speaker 1: if you watch the tone, you're like, are you kidding yet? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. That's what's going on. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous when you think about it, but that's the
Speaker 1: way this company operates. And there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: to make fun of. But we don't have to invent
Speaker 1: things to make fun of. There's there's plenty, right. I
Speaker 1: can't believe people are this bent up about Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 1: I just well, and remember we had the prediction show
Speaker 1: about Cody. Remember that prediction show about Cody. It was
Speaker 1: actually funny because everybody had a prediction, but when they
Speaker 1: actually had to call in and give it, they didn't
Speaker 1: have the prediction they had like on the chats or whatever.
Speaker 1: But everybody was sure that Cody was gonna fail and
Speaker 1: he was gonna be buried and he's gonna be chasing
Speaker 1: seven title. That's all we heard before he came in.
Speaker 1: And I think people were mad at me because I said, dude,
Speaker 1: they're gonna push this guy. They have to push this
Speaker 1: guy because they want to get m jfs and Young
Speaker 1: and whoever else from a W when their contracts come due. Jericho.
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna want to steal people from a W.
Speaker 1: So it does them no good to burry Cody. You
Speaker 1: have to push Cody as a big and oh no,
Speaker 1: they're not bright. He's gonna chase that seven title. Well,
Speaker 1: now he's actually being pushes a star. Now we have
Speaker 1: to invent a narrative where he's getting buried. Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's not, but Brian, I think there's some long
Speaker 1: term middle ground there where it's like, yeah, things are
Speaker 1: gonna have to play out, and how will they feel
Speaker 1: about him a year from now, two years from now,
Speaker 1: three years and now, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: long has contracts flood states For three years? We have
Speaker 1: seen them do stop starts with everybody, with the exception
Speaker 1: even even of Roman Reigns. But even Roman Reigns has
Speaker 1: been the one consistent that they've you know, push people,
Speaker 1: but they've fallen out of favor with anybody. We talked
Speaker 1: about it with Kevin Owens is somebody you can rebuild
Speaker 1: the seth Rollins, you can rebuild very easily, bounce him
Speaker 1: back and forth. Who's to say they can't do that
Speaker 1: with Cody Rhodes And who's to say that they won't
Speaker 1: do that with Cody Rhodes? And then are you as
Speaker 1: big of a success do you want to do? People
Speaker 1: want to go over there, So yeah, like you know,
Speaker 1: there's again multiple things can be right here. You're right,
Speaker 1: they have to push Cody Rhods, and I think they're
Speaker 1: doing it incredibly well. And I think the people that
Speaker 1: are complaining about that, if you're not being trolls, you're
Speaker 1: just being silly or stupid or blind about it, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean completely obduce. They are doing what they can
Speaker 1: with Cody Rhodes. He's not gotten any losses. They have
Speaker 1: a countdown clock for him, the whole entrance. You know
Speaker 1: that the top heels can't stand them. It works completely,
Speaker 1: So I don't again, I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people being disingenuous about that. And if you are honestly missing,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to tell you, because they've
Speaker 1: done as good of a job with Cody Rhodes as
Speaker 1: they've done anybody being new in that company in the
Speaker 1: last I don't know how many times here notes talking
Speaker 1: about repetitive booking. Cody has now wrestled missed twice. That's
Speaker 1: one match more than he wrestled against his fierce foe
Speaker 1: m JF and two more than his matches with Kenny Omega,
Speaker 1: Adam Page, John Moxley or c Him punk in a
Speaker 1: w Yeah, there's a lot of rematches in w W E.
Speaker 1: We watched the same show over and over and over
Speaker 1: and over again. And I need to actually go back
Speaker 1: and check the roster because you know, there was a
Speaker 1: time where you know, w w A clearly had a
Speaker 1: much bigger roster than a W. And they still were
Speaker 1: doing the same matches over and over again, and somehow
Speaker 1: a W almost never did rematches. But now I actually
Speaker 1: think that it's possible that a W has a bigger
Speaker 1: roster because man, they signed so many people and uh,
Speaker 1: but it's the same deal. It's like, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how many people w W E has. Vince relies on
Speaker 1: the exact same people doing the exact same matches over
Speaker 1: and over again, week after week. Things are going to
Speaker 1: be changing now that L. A. Knight's Meat Market is
Speaker 1: on the scene. They're gonna be breaking up from L. A. Knight.
Speaker 1: It's not L. A. Knight maxi priest max dupre max duprex. No, no, Mike,
Speaker 1: Max duprix, Max dupri closer, You'll get you. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like I'm trying to get Howard Stern to s
Speaker 1: W NBC, like you had it Max dupre dupri Max duprix.
Speaker 1: That's better Max dupri Is that what like that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit better mac maximum model management along
Speaker 1: with his first model second three, I don't know, three
Speaker 1: M is something they're going to be able to trademark. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not they're gonna trademark maximum Male, Maximum Male Modever
Speaker 1: it is maximum model management maximum. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what it is. Man sore, mace. A lot of m's
Speaker 1: going on there with that group. Listen to the Filthy
Speaker 1: show yesterday. We're Filthy tries to argue that Max dupri
Speaker 1: did not screw up and call him face, from which
Speaker 1: he did. He did. He introduced him his face, but
Speaker 1: w W edited off everything and on w dot com,
Speaker 1: she's a great name for a male model. Would it
Speaker 1: not be called him face? Don't even get into this again. Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have face and biceps and thighs coming down
Speaker 1: to the ring. Glutes. Look, I mean on that look
Speaker 1: on that roster, somebody could come up as glutes. Somebody
Speaker 1: from n x D. Actually, I picture of gluts working
Speaker 1: with two dimes and stacks stacks two dimes and glutes. Glutes.
Speaker 1: Glutes can actually crush two dimes because he's a he's
Speaker 1: really does those squats and everything, those kettlebells. First fifty
Speaker 1: minutes of raw, We're fabulous, such a non w W promo.
Speaker 1: Riddles delivering emotions were spun on. Dude. Riddle was fantastic.
Speaker 1: He was great, he was awesome. It was a little
Speaker 1: oh man, now you're gonna be anything else you want
Speaker 1: to bury. I'm not burying it. I'm just I'm that
Speaker 1: people a surprised or expersensitive about Riddle being sensitive there.
Speaker 1: And I saw the I saw the thing afterwards to
Speaker 1: the digital exclusive that he did where they continued on
Speaker 1: with it as well, and I mean the ay, I look,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's not worse things on that show.
Speaker 1: I just I was surprised that people really loved it
Speaker 1: as much as they did. God bless you everybody. I
Speaker 1: like this guy has got an idea for one of
Speaker 1: the wrestlers in Maximum Muscular whatever, Sir Lloyd, I like
Speaker 1: that one. He prom'm too good of course, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's how you can break away Otis for shakes and
Speaker 1: waits and bring back that version of him. You know
Speaker 1: he could. He's a new recruit somehow, the male model management,
Speaker 1: and he's the comic relief there, Sir Loyns, Sir Loyd.
Speaker 1: Now this guy, says, Sir Loins, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: that's better or or worse. The phone lines are opened,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're board otherwisetacular these text messages.
Speaker 1: I don't know who they're gonna bring in for m
Speaker 1: M M. First here says hear me out. We need
Speaker 1: bad shows like n x T an other w w
Speaker 1: E programming. When you and Vinnie review a w which
Speaker 1: most times is an awesome show, the reviews go pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: as you talked about the good stuff. When you review
Speaker 1: n x T, those reviews take longer because there's so
Speaker 1: much horrible stuff to talk about. If Alive Rustling was
Speaker 1: just great, I don't think we would have That's true,
Speaker 1: I would miss you know, there's always gotta be I've
Speaker 1: always got to have some rival. It's gonna be balancing
Speaker 1: for a while. And then it was t n A,
Speaker 1: and I never thought it would be w w E.
Speaker 1: But here we are. Plus some people are just into
Speaker 1: shotting freud to and they take great pleasure out of
Speaker 1: watching Vinnie and great pain having to view these shows.
Speaker 1: It's by the way, how long did the interview portion
Speaker 1: of the uh Edge and all that? How long did
Speaker 1: that go? For? The match went about eleven and a
Speaker 1: half minutes? How long did the interview segment go for
Speaker 1: what's about the edge thing? Yeah? I told you They
Speaker 1: stood in the ring for eight minutes and then they
Speaker 1: talked for eight minutes. They were there for sixteen minuting,
Speaker 1: so with the match itself, so nearly twelve minutes twenty
Speaker 1: eight minutes spent on that. If you watch the video recap,
Speaker 1: which is all you would need to see from it,
Speaker 1: it's two minutes in nineteen seconds, I believe on WWE
Speaker 1: dot com, and you get a little of the promo,
Speaker 1: You get the end of the match, which is all
Speaker 1: you need and tells you a lot about that show.
Speaker 1: Please review Brian video reviews on Noah with Russo esque
Speaker 1: that does no Sawa? Oh god are you now? You're
Speaker 1: gonna become the uh the Nosawa wrestling expert. Now, I
Speaker 1: never say anything about that, and that's what that person
Speaker 1: said there. But I hear a lot about Nozawa. Yes,
Speaker 1: ready one good? No, No, people don't like him, No,
Speaker 1: they don't. This person here says I have to read
Speaker 1: one about skip the Sasha Naomi one? Is that for
Speaker 1: the best? All right? Any chance Helen to Cell will
Speaker 1: be better than Wrestle Media Backlash. My expectations for Backlash
Speaker 1: were low, but it turned out to be a good show.
Speaker 1: Any chance Helen his Cell will be better. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean there's always a chance. I mean, listen, the wrestlers
Speaker 1: are are all for the most part good, So I mean,
Speaker 1: if you've got let's look at this Helen a Cell
Speaker 1: cart here, I think we've got four official matches. But
Speaker 1: I mean Cody and Seth and Helen a Cell, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that's gonna be good. And Bianca Oscar and
Speaker 1: Becky that's gonna be really good. Ezekiel and Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see Kevin Owen's really good. Lastly, omas
Speaker 1: An m v P. I mean it'll suck. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm that's only that's what we got so far. You
Speaker 1: know it's really good. El Pantasmo is pretty doomed. Of
Speaker 1: course he's good. I could have told you that you
Speaker 1: had a match with Titon and another match with the
Speaker 1: Wheeler Utah during the Best of the Super Juniors excellent
Speaker 1: the Outliers. Two of the outlier wrestling matches. There hasn't
Speaker 1: been too much bad and that's been for show Tanaka
Speaker 1: and uh Rice Skate to Gucci. They've been having the
Speaker 1: bad stuff. But Desperado and Titan was a great one.
Speaker 1: Horomo and Akira, it's another Francisco Akira, another really good one.
Speaker 1: And and t J P against Desperado and Lindeman both
Speaker 1: fantastic as well too, but not as fantastic as these
Speaker 1: Old Bay goldfish crackers. Have you seen these? Do they
Speaker 1: have these on the West Coast? Do they have these
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest? These things are fantastic. Not good
Speaker 1: for your sodium count, but it doesn't matter. Might be
Speaker 1: plugging goldfish for free, I might add dum. I don't
Speaker 1: even know where to start back in the moments of
Speaker 1: her life. Like in the show, Bran Elder is here
Speaker 1: sling Observer live. What is this person? Man? We were
Speaker 1: talking about on the Filthy Tom Show yesterday, as mentioning that, man,
Speaker 1: if I were feeling it, I'd I'd come out of
Speaker 1: retirement and go after Tom's Black Label Pro Midwest Championship
Speaker 1: or whatever he had, And I said, I could be
Speaker 1: the king of the these, you know, the regional titles.
Speaker 1: As a former tech Star Canada television champion, Guy here says,
Speaker 1: clearly Brian is a case of regional championship envy, needing
Speaker 1: to downplay Tom's title, representing around twelve states and seventy
Speaker 1: million people, including several major metropolitan areas, by putting it
Speaker 1: on equal footing with a belt representing portions of three
Speaker 1: states and roughly a hundred fifty thousand people. Bro, what
Speaker 1: are these states? Is Texas? What are you talking about
Speaker 1: the biggest state for Alaska? It's not all of Texas.
Speaker 1: You only get like the Panhandle port, get that whole area.
Speaker 1: You don't know. You know, you haven't broken into the
Speaker 1: Blanchard territory down in the Southwest, into the Funks and
Speaker 1: the Armarillos. You couldn't. You couldn't handle it out that far.
Speaker 1: We don't even know what the Midwest technically even covers.
Speaker 1: What is the Midwest? It's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a vague term for a vague area. You stop,
Speaker 1: you're a really Uh. I didn't put on equal footing anyway.
Speaker 1: I just said that is a former tech SAR Canon champion,
Speaker 1: it would only be fitting that I would become a
Speaker 1: Midwest champion as well. Yeah, you should come out of
Speaker 1: retirement and do that so we can see you get
Speaker 1: choked out. He wouldn't choke me out here. Come up,
Speaker 1: I'm retired, lazy, old more out of time. But we
Speaker 1: got more coming up tonight. The uh, get out of you.
Speaker 1: I'm not bad at math or geography. I hate you guys.
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