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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show, as we are locked

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Speaker 1: and loaded for a Tuesday night extravaganza of Texans Talk

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Speaker 1: and NFL talk and then some And in segment two, tonight,

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Speaker 1: nd Kalou and Cecil Shorts the third converse part of

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Speaker 1: the Texans Ogs pod series, which is available on Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans dot com and the Texans App, and tonight for

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Speaker 1: you right here and excerpt from their conversation which did

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Speaker 1: take place today, and they talk about Cecil's career, also

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Speaker 1: stuff about the Houston Texans, so you can catch that

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Speaker 1: pod later or some of it right here in segment two,

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Speaker 1: and John Harris is with us, Johnny, let's go talk

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Speaker 1: about some Texans stuff and around the league stuff too.

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Speaker 1: But do you realize that you and I are the

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Speaker 1: only people in the entire city who have not talked

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Speaker 1: about c J. Stroud and the Amber Rose story?

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Speaker 2: What's that? Yeah? See, I you you were going to

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Speaker 2: go there?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know? What's what's an Amber?

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Speaker 1: I guess I get it because it's gossipy. It's a

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Speaker 1: juicy off season news story. I suppose I had a

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Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about why do the celebs park where

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Speaker 1: to your spot.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there is. Why did Travis Scott park there?

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Speaker 1: Were they not allowed to park at the players a lot?

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. But all that aside, CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 1: is a smart guy. I'm sure he's gonna handle whatever

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 4: I was driving back over after lunch, and I kept

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Speaker 4: coming back to this CJ and the Texans, and I

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Speaker 4: would think the Texans helping CJ. There's a level of

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Speaker 4: celebrity going with CJ. Stroud that we've never seen in

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Speaker 4: this town from a Texan. Now, Deshaun, I mean, JJ

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Speaker 4: got a lot of acclaim it took a little it

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Speaker 4: took a little while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it took a few years. And then obviously, yeah

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Speaker 1: this is fast.

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Speaker 4: This is one year and all so and people are

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Speaker 4: putting him up on the pedestal and all that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff, which is I mean, it's fantastic for people

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Speaker 4: to know, hey, you got the guy and all that,

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Speaker 4: but it's just gonna be tough dealing with all the

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Speaker 4: different requests and everything. Because one thing I noticed during

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl week he did to say no. He didn't

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Speaker 4: like to say no to people. I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: he did to some, but he probably did to a lot.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he probably did, but he did a lot.

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Speaker 4: And CJ strikes me as a guy that wants to

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Speaker 4: please everybody and make sure everybody's happy around him.

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Speaker 2: That's obviously the way he plays quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He wants to feed the ball to everybody is getting

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Speaker 2: But he's got a level of celebrity that I know

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Speaker 2: I'm not used to. I mean, for JJ, I got

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Speaker 4: That's the year that it kind of clicked, obviously, but

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Speaker 4: he'd already gone to the Pro Bowl before that. But

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Speaker 4: it was like his star rose kind of steadily and consistently.

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Speaker 4: C's went from well, you know, where's he gonna be drafted? Okay,

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Speaker 4: he's going to Houston, and well what they have in Houston,

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Speaker 4: to all of a sudden, he is one of the

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Speaker 2: League right now, the league. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: So from that standpoint, just dealing with all that is

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Speaker 4: in some sense. This, I think is going to be

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Speaker 4: the thing that is going to frustrate him is wait

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Speaker 4: a second, why is what I'm doing walking away from

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Speaker 4: a softball game going to be news?

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: CJ does know this, But anything c J Stroud does

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Speaker 4: his news from now on.

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Speaker 1: He's going to figure that out any fast. He probably

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Speaker 1: has already breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Jay Stroud went to the bathroom in a bar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, think about what he set up here

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Speaker 1: media reaction was to how well he was playing, and

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Speaker 1: then when they had the Jet game, and then he

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Speaker 1: exited for a while with the concussion, but he came

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Speaker 1: were reacting to anything he did positively and very little negative.

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Speaker 1: I mean just having a when he threw the three picks. Oh,

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Speaker 1: when he threw the three picks in a win, right,

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Speaker 1: all five picks in a win? How about that five

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Speaker 2: How about that? And the one against the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: How many paidon Manning thrown his rookieyear twenty eight, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Amounts of picks.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, watching that Patriots series, Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I noticed how many picks Drew bloodsoe.

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Speaker 2: Through a lot of sections the water.

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Speaker 1: Why Ernie Adams and those guys were like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we could do a little bit better just by not

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Speaker 1: turning the ball over. I like Drew Blood, so don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, but you made a good point here.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot closer to what because after

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Speaker 1: WATS rookie season, What's rookie season was the greatest season

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Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise at the time.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, And he became a star.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, Andre Johnson played at an extremely

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Speaker 1: high level, Pro Bowl Pro level while the team wasn't winning.

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Speaker 1: So while he was a massive celebrity, it was pre

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Speaker 1: social media really taking over and pre Texan's winning what

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure he would have some interesting things to

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Speaker 1: say to CJ about how to handle all of this,

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Speaker 1: because he got to handle it. It's got to be tough.

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Speaker 1: You're twenty two years old. Everybody's coming at you. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. And really, I think he's

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Speaker 1: a really smart kid. He's going to figure out a lot.

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Speaker 1: Some of it you just have to learn on the fly,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see where it goes from here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. I've always I always kind of bristle that.

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Speaker 4: You know, you call him a kid, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, and he's no, he's the same call him

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Speaker 4: They're the same class at like, she's my kid. So

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Speaker 4: I there's a there's a part of me that thinks

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Speaker 4: I used to in my former radio station. I used

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Speaker 4: to like, why is Gary Kubiak always call hi kids?

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Speaker 4: I used to get I used to get frustrated with that,

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Speaker 2: Kids, and so I kind of get it.

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Speaker 4: But it's, you know, it's funny going back and watching

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Speaker 4: that Bengals game was on NFL Network on Sunday, maybe Monday,

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 2: Remember which day.

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Speaker 1: Coat was on today it was on today bost That

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Speaker 1: means it's moving up the that's in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, wow wow, And just watching him, you know,

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Speaker 2: Why is it dooms? I don't know. I don't get

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I went from Top one our plays in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: Then it was hey, top ten plays of every NFL

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Speaker 4: and forty five. I'm like, all right, let me just

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Speaker 4: see if I can get to Houston. So then I

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Speaker 4: watched it top ten.

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Speaker 2: He's disagreement living any disagreements? Uh what was our number

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Speaker 1: Do you remember it was better Nico? It was Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was five to start the game. Look, that was

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Speaker 1: a hell of a play. I know, we've got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to.

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Speaker 4: What was interesting though, is when they did their top

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Speaker 4: one hundred plays, that play I think was forty four.

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Speaker 4: CJ to Nico and Andrew back running it back. I

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Speaker 2: Den Let up at the top one hundred. We don't

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Speaker 4: When they do their top one hundred plays, top one

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Speaker 4: hundred players this summer as they always do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you think our guys will fall? It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch. We'll have a few guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many of them have to be quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Right? A lot? Yeah? I mean CJ. Is CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud right now one of the top twenty five players

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Speaker 1: You have to Now, you could argue this guy is

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Speaker 1: But is he YEA Look, that's a tough debate in

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Speaker 1: this It's always hard.

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Speaker 4: It's a team game, all that it is. But you

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Speaker 4: know that's I'm curious how many will make it. Cjil

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Speaker 4: making for sure, does Nico make it? Laraim, He will

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Speaker 4: definitely make it. It's gonna be tough. There are a

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Speaker 4: lot of great receivers as well as Nico did. Has

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Speaker 4: he opened enough eyes yet? Okay, so this made me think.

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Speaker 1: And I and braand Scott was in with Sean Pendergast

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Speaker 1: today and they were talking about, you know, getting out

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Speaker 1: the credit card and you know something we talked about yesterday,

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Speaker 1: you know, paying for Mike Evans and you know, paying

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Speaker 1: the credit card bill later on, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've always been in a mindset like

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind going out and paying for

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Speaker 1: a Maserati. You know, if I get a Maserati, I'll

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Speaker 1: pay for it. You know, if I got the money,

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Speaker 1: I'll pay for it. I don't know money do anything

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Speaker 1: right now. But but you get the point. And so

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Speaker 1: they kept talking about Mike Evans and man, I love

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Speaker 1: and I hate I hate doing this, but I love Mike.

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Speaker 1: But it just feels like there the with Nico and Tank.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't have Nico and Tank, or you just

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Speaker 1: had one of them. Okay, I could see like pushing

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Speaker 1: for Mike Evans, but this team is not quite one player.

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Speaker 2: Way if Mike was that player. Like man, I don't know, you.

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Speaker 1: Have other more pressing needs than Mike Evans right now,

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Speaker 1: As as much as I love Mike Evans, look at it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just based on the returning players you have, you are

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Speaker 1: far more well set at wide receiver than you are

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Speaker 1: in certain other position groups. Based on expiring contracts, things

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Speaker 1: And you needed every single one of those guys to

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Speaker 2: You got money, you gotta spend it. I get that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got some other things for you here, Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 2: You've heard of him.

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Speaker 1: Him.

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Speaker 2: We'll probably visit with him next week, by the way,

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Speaker 1: As ESPN has already emailed me, do you want to

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Speaker 1: visit with these quote draft experts?

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Speaker 2: You know who they had as a draft. If you

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Speaker 1: Ill no, Listen, it's okay, it's what is that called

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like Johnny, but we also want to talk

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Speaker 2: They've kind of moved him into that realm.

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Speaker 1: Instead of a story breaker, right, and he was more

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Speaker 4: But I remember seeing he tweeted, actually, I would mind

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Speaker 1: I think Field is pretty smart about things. But if

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Speaker 4: Joe Bush Bomb, godfu yeah at Bushbomb, Kuiper. I mean,

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Speaker 4: no there's no doubt. How did he get all his information?

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Speaker 1: He says that if the Texans draft in his latest Machias,

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Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing something. You have those.

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Speaker 1: So that's my that's my question with the Mike Evans people.

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Speaker 1: Are you paying Nico Now? You're gonna wait because you

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Speaker 2: It's funny you say.

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Speaker 4: This because I actually I am looking at it right now

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now he's not as he's not as I think

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Speaker 4: And I actually said in my scouting report, I use

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Speaker 4: He has got breakaway ability, he's got home run hitting ability.

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Speaker 4: So you want to see my scouting report, I put

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Speaker 1: That's I think he's gonna post tonight. So that was

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Speaker 4: And then I saw jeremiahs because I've seen other mock

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Speaker 4: You know you've got those. There are gonna be some questions.

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Speaker 1: If you draft him, you have the last two Lombardi

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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of him returning health whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: And let's say you signed Gernard, Well, you got Will,

440
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Speaker 1: you got Grenard, and you got Horton.

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Speaker 2: There's three.

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Speaker 4: Now at that point, you probably need a veteran presence

443
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Speaker 4: in there. You know, a Jerry Hughes, Derek Barnett. Maybe

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Speaker 4: you bring back Barnett at that point, or you bring

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Speaker 4: in you know, another pass rusher at that point. You

446
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Speaker 4: don't have to go get that first round pick. But

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Speaker 4: if you end up not being able to bring Gernard

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Speaker 4: back and you don't sign somebody in free agency at

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Speaker 4: that particular position, then you definitely have to take a

450
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Speaker 4: look at a guy like Glatsu. Now day one, immediately,

451
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Speaker 4: third down, he's on the field, second along, third, and long.

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Speaker 4: He's on the field because he's as skilled as pass

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Speaker 4: rusher as there is in this draft or any other

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Speaker 4: draft for that matter. His ability to bend it, I mean,

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Speaker 4: his pass rushing is unbelievable. I told him at the

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Speaker 4: senior ball I said, but I said, you got to

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Speaker 4: set the edge because all the pass rushing moves you got,

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Speaker 4: and as skilled as you are, you got to set

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Speaker 4: the edge of some violence, and there's some games where

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Speaker 4: you look at it and go, man, I don't know

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Speaker 4: seting the edge. I'd like to see him be a

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Speaker 4: little more violent. But as a pass rusher, there's nobody

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Speaker 4: as skilled as that guy.

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Speaker 2: That and nobody know that is job one for them.

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Speaker 2: This meet goes absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'd love you getting after the quarterback, he would say,

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Speaker 1: but this is the first priority. We cannot let people

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Speaker 1: bounce to the outside and grind up yardage that way.

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Speaker 1: All right, A couple of other things here. Matthew Slater retires.

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Speaker 1: I bring this up because I'm impressed with this, and

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Speaker 1: this is a good lesson in life and football that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be the quarterback. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to be the star pass rusher. He has caught what

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Speaker 1: is it like, one career pass, one pass, one pass,

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Speaker 1: and you'd hate to screw that up. I'm glad he

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Speaker 1: didn't catch two. One is just the perfect number for him.

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Speaker 1: Yet he's been to what ten Pro Bowls, ten Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 1: sixteen seasons, ten Pro Bowls. Greatest special teams player in history,

479
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Speaker 1: says Bill Belichick. You could debate that all day long.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I interviewed him at the twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen Pro Bowl because we had just hired Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien and I wanted a Patriot comment on Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: and I got one from him. And that was ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, literally ten years ago, and he just retired

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Speaker 1: and at the time, I think that was his third

486
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He had been going for a while. And

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Speaker 1: those guys know, they've got to make the team every year.

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Speaker 2: This is not I've.

489
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Speaker 1: Got a ten year contract and I've got all this

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Matthew Slater had to make the team every year.

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Speaker 1: They were probably to replace him with a younger, cheaper model,

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Speaker 1: but they couldn't because he was just too good at

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Speaker 1: his job. I love that, and I hate the Patriots

494
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Speaker 1: like poison.

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Speaker 2: You all know that. But I salute Matthew Slater and

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Speaker 2: the career that he had.

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Speaker 4: How about I'm trying to think if there is another

498
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Speaker 4: father son duo, There's got to be. There's got to be.

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Speaker 4: They have seventeen Pro Bowls between them.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's strong.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen Dad, Jackie Slater played for the LA Rams.

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Speaker 2: How many has Jake Matthew's been too?

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Speaker 5: Not? Not?

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Speaker 1: If you had all the Matthews family Pro Bowls. That's

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Speaker 1: because you have Clay his nephew, Bruce Matthew's nephew. You

506
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Speaker 1: have Clay his brother.

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Speaker 2: Jake's been to one. Oh that's not enough.

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Speaker 1: How many did Clay Matthews Senior go to? Bruce was

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Speaker 1: I did an event with him recently. He was campaigning

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Speaker 1: for Clay, his brother, the former Cleveland Brown, to get

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Speaker 1: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see that. And he was a tremendous outside

513
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Speaker 2: linebacker at the time.

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Speaker 1: Now Clay, I guess it's Clay the third just want

515
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Speaker 1: to play for the Packers.

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Speaker 4: He had he had six Pro Bowls, so that's uh. Now,

517
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Speaker 4: you could go all the way down the line. Clay

518
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Speaker 4: Matthews Junior had four.

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Speaker 2: That's ten. That's ten. The Sleaders had seventeen. Seventeen, so strong.

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Speaker 4: And what I love about that the Slater story is

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Speaker 4: here's a guy who you know, his dad was a

522
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Speaker 4: big time player, Pro bowler, different position, but he goes

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Speaker 4: to u CLA. He's a wide receiver and you think, Okay,

524
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Speaker 4: this guy's grown up. He's been around the game. You

525
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Speaker 4: would think, oh, no, I'm too big for that. No,

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Speaker 4: he finds a role as a special teamer and says,

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Speaker 4: this is the role I'm gonna This is the role

528
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in, and I love it and I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna help this team win games. And he also calls

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Speaker 4: the coin flip very very well in overtime of playoff games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does, he did.

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Speaker 4: He crushed He crushed it right here in this building

533
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Speaker 4: called tails or heads, but he called it right.

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Speaker 2: He called it right.

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Speaker 1: I think it was one of the Championships game against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs called it right then. So that was making

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Speaker 1: the rounds on an NFL Films video about overtime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we all saw the Patrick. People are reacting as

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Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes reaction was a complete bevy of expressions. Right,

540
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Speaker 1: it was just his eyes widened slightly and we're zupprudering

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Speaker 1: this thing to death.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he might have been thinking, man, I really.

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Speaker 1: Got to go to the bathroom, please please, I really

544
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Speaker 1: want the ball first.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get to this. Eddy kalew and Cecil Shorts.

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Speaker 1: The third a conversation on Texans OG's It's Coming Up

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Speaker 1: about the Houston Texans Cecil's career Anddy is a great

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Speaker 1: interviewer in Cecil your Stadium MC an outstanding guest that's

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Speaker 1: coming up.

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Speaker 2: And then Johnny and I we're gonna wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: Twelve team college playoff news on that how does it

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Speaker 1: affect the NFL? And a quarterback wants out of an

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Speaker 1: NFL team that the Texans are gonna play this year.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. Keep it things moving here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: We've got a good segment for you till we ever

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Speaker 1: have a bad one. Don't answer that, but this is

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Speaker 1: awesome because it's Texans OG's a podcast you need to

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Speaker 1: know about that's available on the Texans app in Houston,

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Speaker 1: Texans dot com, hosted by n D Kalu. Texans Legend

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Speaker 1: catches up with former players.

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Speaker 2: We have ND on the.

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Speaker 1: Radio and on the air in a variety of ways

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Speaker 1: on Texans TV, Texans Preseason TV. But he catches up

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Speaker 1: with former Texans players aka Texans Legends, and this week

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Speaker 1: it's Cecil Shorts. Here's an excerpt of ND speaking with

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Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts.

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Speaker 5: The third I'm not even gonna call this man a guest.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna call him a co host because when it

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Speaker 5: comes to broadcasting, communications and master ceremony with the mic.

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Speaker 5: There is no better than a man. Cecil Shorts. You

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Speaker 5: hear him at the games, you see him at the games.

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Speaker 5: Done an awesome, awesome job with his transition from being

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Speaker 5: on the football field seven year career after coming out

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Speaker 5: of Mount Union and now just doing an awesome job

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Speaker 5: with the Texans Legends community. So he's co hosting. He

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Speaker 5: is not a guest. He's co hosting. Ceecil Shorts, how

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Speaker 5: you doing, brother, Well?

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Speaker 6: I appreciate the introduction, man, make me feel warm, make

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Speaker 6: me feel good inside.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, But I was, well, man about you.

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Speaker 5: That means you're living right because I'm just telling the truth.

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Speaker 5: So if it makes you feel warm, it means you're

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Speaker 5: doing some of the right things. But I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 5: For those that don't know, when you first came to

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Speaker 5: the Texans in fourteen fifteen, I remember I looked you

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Speaker 5: up and I just love your story. You know, I

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Speaker 5: love the stories of the underdog, the Division three schools

590
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Speaker 5: stand out who goes on to a play in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: You know, two times with the average career, the average

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Speaker 5: career being three and a half years, you played over

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Speaker 5: seven years, so just kind of talk about your journey

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Speaker 5: to getting to the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Man, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was something I didn't know that was realistic. It

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Speaker 6: was something that this kind of happened. Like it's always

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Speaker 6: a goal. It was always a goal of mine. Right,

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Speaker 6: somebody says, when I'm ten years old, I want to

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Speaker 6: be old and play the NFL, on, play MLB, on

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Speaker 6: be a fireman. Right, But I think it came to

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Speaker 6: reality probably my third year or fourth year in school.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, WHOA, it's starting to get for real. But

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Speaker 6: going to school, like I was five ten, five eleven,

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Speaker 6: one sixty soaking wet, one fifty five soaking wet. Especially

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Speaker 6: after track seasons, I ran eight hundred and I ran

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Speaker 6: the foot by four.

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Speaker 3: I ran three hundred meter hurdles in high school. I

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Speaker 3: was always very active.

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Speaker 6: I was just a smaller guy, and I don't think

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Speaker 6: I was if I knowing now, right, because people are like, hey,

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Speaker 6: do you think you could have went D one out

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Speaker 6: of high school?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, probably not.

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Speaker 6: Because they look for a certain height and weight and

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Speaker 6: certain forty times and certain stature that stands out different

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Speaker 6: than everybody else. And I didn't have that stature, right,

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Speaker 6: I think all a decent football player, but I didn't

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Speaker 6: have that stature, just being honest.

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Speaker 3: So going to schoo.

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Speaker 6: Who kind of felt like I was a feelure on

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Speaker 6: most I didn't get a scholarship. I felt like I

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Speaker 6: let my parents down, so we had to pay for school,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So when I got to

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Speaker 6: school my freshman year, I was a quarterback, recruited to

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Speaker 6: play quarterback. Other some D two schools wanted me that

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Speaker 6: they weren't that good at the time and they wanted

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Speaker 6: to play corner or something else.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm a quarterback. I'm the next Mike Vick.

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Speaker 3: I'm the right handed Mike vic like I supposed to

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Speaker 3: be that dude.

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Speaker 6: So I went there freshman year and got hurt, red

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Speaker 6: shirted medical red shirt cause in D three you can't

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Speaker 6: this normal red shirt. That has to be a reason.

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Speaker 6: So I medical red shirt that year and I run

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Speaker 6: track and I ended up being an All American in track.

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Speaker 6: They're like, hey, how do you feel about switching to

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Speaker 6: a receiver for you know, your red shirt freshman year?

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Speaker 3: And I was kind of like reluctant. I'm like I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 6: They're like, all right, you can either switch to receiver

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Speaker 6: or you can ride the bench. Because we got a sophomore,

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Speaker 6: it's gonna be the quarterback the next three years. So

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Speaker 6: I'm I guess I got no choice.

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Speaker 2: So I was the.

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Speaker 6: Sixth or seventh three receiver behind five seniors. It was

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Speaker 6: little ill legit Pierre Garson, who ended up playing like

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Speaker 6: a twelve thirteen year career, and then five four or

649
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Speaker 6: five other guys who were good players.

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Speaker 3: So I'm learning and watching them.

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Speaker 6: I'm getting some reps because we're killing teams, also getting behind,

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Speaker 6: you know, I guess some like third fourth string quarterback reps.

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Speaker 6: And then Pierre goes on and gets drafted in the

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Speaker 6: sixth round that year. And Pierre is the stature he's

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Speaker 6: six one two oh five when I mean he's a blocker.

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Speaker 6: He will put a corner back to the ground, he'll

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Speaker 6: one hand catch. He this special.

658
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Speaker 3: But when he got drafted, I'm like, wait a second.

659
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Speaker 3: You can get drafted from a Division.

660
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Speaker 6: Three program like hold on, And then knowing like hey,

661
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Speaker 6: it's just me and a guy named Vince that were

662
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Speaker 6: red shirted together, like hey, we got opportunity to be

663
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Speaker 6: the next two guys up, I'm like, all right, let's

664
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Speaker 6: let's take full control of this. And I went into

665
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Speaker 6: grind mode. I went into like, uh, they call it

666
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Speaker 6: like when when Carmelo Anthony puts the hood on, they

667
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Speaker 6: call him like hoodie mellow yep, Like I put my

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Speaker 6: hood on.

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Speaker 3: I went straight into grind mode.

670
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Speaker 6: And the next three years, you know, it was like

671
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Speaker 6: almost five thousand yards receiving seventy something touchdowns. I mean,

672
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Speaker 6: my dad always told me, like, hey, if you want

673
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Speaker 6: to go from the get to the league out of

674
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Speaker 6: Division three, you cannot just be good. You can't just

675
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Speaker 6: have a good season. You can't just be all all conference.

676
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 6: You can't just be a starter. You have to dominate,

677
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Speaker 6: like you truly have to dominate and prove you don't

678
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Speaker 6: belong at that level. So my mindset was I had

679
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Speaker 6: to dominate and prove myself. So my first year is

680
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Speaker 6: like fourteen hundred yards. We go to National Championship. I

681
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Speaker 6: think it was like twenty three receiving touchdowns. We go

682
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Speaker 6: National Championship and.

683
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Speaker 3: We lost, I think.

684
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Speaker 6: But National Championship is the only game to get on

685
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Speaker 6: ESPN every year. That's our one game that the national

686
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Speaker 6: stage we get. So it's important we get there right

687
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: in my five years I was there. We went there

688
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Speaker 6: every year. It's kind of like the standard at Mount Union.

689
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Speaker 6: It's a humble Brad. It was kind of like a

690
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Speaker 6: standard Mount Union.

691
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Speaker 2: Right.

692
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Speaker 6: The next year, Crazy over dre catches seventeen hundred yards

693
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Speaker 6: almost thirty total touchdowns from returning to receiving and rushing.

694
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Speaker 6: And then after that year we go to national Championship began.

695
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Speaker 6: We ended up losing, but agent after agent after agents

696
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Speaker 6: started calling, and then team after team after team started

697
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 6: showing up. And I'm like, oh, this is back when

698
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 6: my Space and Facebook were very popular.

699
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Speaker 2: Right.

700
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Speaker 6: Facebook is still popular, but my Space was a thing.

701
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Speaker 6: So I'm getting agents hit me up on my Space

702
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Speaker 6: and all this stuff. I'm calling my dad like, Yo,

703
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Speaker 6: what I do?

704
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Speaker 3: Are they for real? It's fake?

705
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Speaker 6: And as time went on, going into my last year,

706
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 6: it was like it was for real. So my dad

707
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 6: probably met with my dad created a team. It was

708
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Speaker 6: my mom, my dad, my uncle, some high school coaches

709
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 6: that were real close to us, maybe a pastor, and

710
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: a few other people, about eight people. My dad created

711
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Speaker 6: a group and he met with about thirty five agents.

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Speaker 1: We continue with this excerpt from texans OG's a podcast

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Speaker 1: with nd Kalou and Cecil Shorts the third Tonight's guest

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Speaker 1: and you can get it on Houston Texans dot com.

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Speaker 1: But you're hearing a taste right here.

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Speaker 6: So he said, every agent you get, they talks to you,

717
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 6: send them to me. Gave my dad's number, and they

718
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 6: was serious. They flew in from all across the country.

719
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Speaker 6: They met with them, and my dad gave them the ringer,

720
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Speaker 6: like why here, like this the who?

721
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Speaker 3: What? This? Everything right?

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Speaker 6: So they doin the down to the best three that

723
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Speaker 6: they thought and then I met with the best three

724
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Speaker 6: and I kind of chose from there, but I didn't

725
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 6: meet with them till like later in the season. So

726
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 6: my senior year comes and it's real. I mean, it's

727
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 6: people that practice every week and I'm this is D three.

728
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Speaker 6: This is right right, Like this is like the campus

729
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: is buzzing, Yo, this is crazy. Forty nine ers one day,

730
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Speaker 6: raiders one day, all this stuff they come to practice.

731
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Speaker 6: So this elevates everybody's play around, right. Everybody's like yo, yo,

732
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 6: I'm trying to get looked at. I'm trying to go here.

733
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 6: But it was a surreal experience. So I ended up

734
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 6: getting hurt. My senior year, I missed two or three

735
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 6: games in the middle of the year, and I finished

736
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Speaker 6: the year with like turf tow you know, turnte just

737
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Speaker 6: cur People like, oh so, nah, that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Something that you The name doesn't do it justice. It doesn't.

739
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Speaker 3: It doesn't.

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Speaker 6: It's one of the worst injuries, especially a receiver when

741
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: you're planting and you know, you don't realize you need

742
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Speaker 6: something until you hurt it, until you can't really use it.

743
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Speaker 2: Right.

744
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: But still that senior year.

745
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 6: Ended up still playing over a thousand yards close to

746
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Speaker 6: twenty some touchdowns. And then that year I ended up

747
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Speaker 6: playing some dB and being going along with returning kicks

748
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: and punts. They're like, hey, we're gonna put you at

749
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Speaker 6: dB a little bit just to help you first of all,

750
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Speaker 6: you're good athlete, but to shut down whoever, but also

751
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Speaker 6: to help with you know, your draft prospect.

752
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wow, okay, cool, let's do it.

753
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 6: So I played a little bit of dB in the

754
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 6: playoffs in the championship game, and that was fun, but

755
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 6: it was it was surreal because right after the championship

756
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: game that year, I ended up playing like five positions.

757
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 6: I played quarterback that game, receiver, I played Nickel and

758
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 6: I was a kicking pumper turner. So after that game,

759
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 6: one of the agents came to the game. I think

760
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Speaker 6: I chose him by that time, and he was like,

761
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: this is crazy. We're gonna We're gonna go get you drafted.

762
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Speaker 6: So by a week later, I go to California, I'm training.

763
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Speaker 6: I go to the Combat or the East West game,

764
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Speaker 6: and I'm around like Tyride Taylor and other Division one

765
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Speaker 6: guys I watch on TV.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

767
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: I'm a D three guy. Like we play at noon

768
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 6: on a Saturday, and then we're going home. We're arguing

769
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Speaker 6: about who's gonna be who's gonna win the house.

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Speaker 3: In the Michigan.

771
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Speaker 6: We're arguing with the Florida boys, like no, Miami's not

772
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 6: better than Ohio State or Florida's not better than you

773
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Speaker 6: know what I mean. And at that point in time,

774
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Speaker 6: I'm watching like I looked up to the guys on

775
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 6: TV and not even recognizing, like you know, I'm one

776
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Speaker 6: of them. So I get to the combine in D

777
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 6: and I see Cam Newton. I'm like, yo, that's mark Ingram,

778
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Speaker 6: Like that's not.

779
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: Realizing, like yo, see so you belong.

780
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Speaker 6: So I had to check my myself in the moment, like, Okay,

781
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 6: we make sure I'm doing I'm supposed to be doing.

782
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 6: But man's that's my journey in the nutshell.

783
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Brother, it was. It was awesome, It was surreal. It

784
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: had a lot of ups and downs.

785
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Speaker 6: But you know, you can't compare your journey to anybody

786
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 6: else's because everybody's road to success looks different, and everybody's

787
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 6: success is different, right, and your definition of success is different.

788
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Speaker 3: So I'm just blessed. Man it was. I wouldn't change

789
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Speaker 3: it for the world.

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Speaker 6: Like if I could go back, of course, I want

791
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 6: to go d one, right, But looking back at it,

792
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 6: I grew as a man, I grew as a ball player.

793
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 6: I grew as a human being because I went to

794
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: that school and had to learn work ethic and had

795
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: to learn just really how to grind and persevere. And

796
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Speaker 6: it really made me to who I am.

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Speaker 5: What I love about the story, like you said, the

798
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 5: emotional roller coast and what it taught you on and

799
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: off the field. I have a concern could that story

800
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 5: still happen today? Like this is a genuine question with

801
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: the transfer portal with nil, would a guy who you

802
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 5: know gets overlooked for whatever reason goes to a Mount

803
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: Union and succeeds after two or three years, do they

804
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: typically will they stay there or now were in a

805
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 5: position or situation because of the nil on the portal,

806
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: where as soon as you show success at a smaller school,

807
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Speaker 5: you're gone and you don't get the chance to stay

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Speaker 5: put for four or five years.

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Speaker 6: I think this is that's a great question. I think

810
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Speaker 6: it's gonna be tough. It's going to be tough for

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Speaker 6: a guy to stay at a small school when you

812
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 6: have a ton of success right when I was in school.

813
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Speaker 6: It's funny when I was in school. So my freshman year,

814
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Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator at Mount Union was Matt Campbell, who's

815
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Speaker 6: the head coach of Iowa Stay. Now his assistant was

816
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Speaker 6: Tom Manning, who was the Titians coach with the Indianapolis coach.

817
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 6: Now we had my receivers coach with Jason Campie who

818
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 6: was a head coach at the University of Toledo. Now

819
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Speaker 6: we have the year before I got there, Nick Sirianni,

820
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Speaker 6: who's the.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia head coach, Philip Eagles head coach, was at Mount Union.

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Speaker 6: Wow, we are known for putting guys out there in

823
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 6: that realm, right so my junior year, my first year

824
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 6: had real success, about fourteen hundred yards whatever. My offensive

825
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 6: coordinator Jason Kendall left to go to be receivercalch at Toledo.

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Speaker 6: And I'm thinking about that situation, like if that was

827
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Speaker 6: today and I had fourteen hundred yards twenty seven touchdowns,

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Speaker 6: I probably would have followed him to Toledo, right. I

829
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: think in today's world, today's college football atmosphere, it's not

830
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Speaker 6: going to be many guys that stick around because if

831
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 6: you have an opportunity, it's everybody's dream that played the

832
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: biggest stage you can play on. So if you have

833
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 6: an opportunity that Shay, you're dominating at Youngstown State, you're

834
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Speaker 6: killing it. But Baylor comes a and them says, come

835
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Speaker 6: knocking at the door, Hey, we want you.

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Speaker 3: To come here.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna take that opportunity, and rightfully, so, right right, rightfully,

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Speaker 6: So you earned that opportunity, you're gonna take it. Pause

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Speaker 6: now you're probably getting paid to go there. Yeah, you're

840
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 6: probably getting offered to go there. I have friends that play,

841
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 6: and you do. You have friends that probably coach in

842
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 6: college right now? A few fans that coach and he's

843
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 6: at the university. He's like, yeah, so we picked up

844
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 6: three guys in the portal, one for one, one for two,

845
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Speaker 6: twenty five, two fifty.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, don't got our expected to play?

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00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, if I'm at a small school and they

848
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 6: offer me two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, guess what I'm.

849
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Speaker 3: Gonna do, especially how I grew up, right, I.

850
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 6: Can help my family, I can help out you see

851
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Like, it's gonna be hard to keep

852
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 6: to hear those stories more. Can they still happen, Yes,

853
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 6: but it's gonna be hard to hear that that particular

854
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 6: type of story. And it's not a bad thing. It's

855
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 6: just a different landscape. But what college football is today.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that because so many people are

857
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 5: saying this is ruining college football. For me, it's it's

858
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 5: it's different, and it takes getting used to as a

859
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: football fan, but it's just a different landscape. I don't

860
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: think it's ruining because when we turn the games on

861
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: on Saturday, they're still just as entertaining.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: There's an actual from Texans OG's n D Kalu's podcast

864
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: with former Texans players, legends and We might play more

865
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: of that later on in the week. Really good stuff

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: from those two former Texans players. Coming up now, right

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Speaker 1: final segment here on the show tonight, John Harris is

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00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: back with us. Johnny, A couple of things here. Twelve

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Speaker 1: team college football playoff. They're gonna go with the five

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Speaker 1: plus seven meaning five highest ranked conference champions and then

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00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: seven at large. They're doing it because of the demise

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Speaker 1: of the Pac twelve. Are you okay with us now?

873
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: They said the five highest ranked conference champions. If the

874
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: Big twelve champion is ranked lower than the Conference USA champion,

875
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: which is not going to happen, but if it was

876
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the case, that Conference USA champion gets in, right because

877
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: they're champion and they're ranked higher than the Big twelve champion.

878
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: Right now, the Conference USA, and I know, Conference USA

879
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: is what the Sun Belt used to be, and the

880
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Sunbelt is with the whatever used to be and this

881
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: is so hard to keep track of, but everybody's still

882
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: eligible to get in as an at large teams. Yes,

883
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: so that's kind of cool. First four get buys. So

884
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: the first round games, yes four of them are at

885
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: campus sites, and.

886
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Then you go to the New Year's Day Bowls and

887
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: then you go.

888
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: To a Champion Championships site, just like we had it

889
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: here at inn RG Stadium recently.

890
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: I love the on campus. I wish they would do

891
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: another round on the on campus. I think it's going

892
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: to be I think the first year they do this,

893
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: they're gonna find out, Oh my god, they're not gonna

894
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: fill every house for these bowl games. Yeah, it's gonna

895
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: make those bowl games exciting, obviously because something is on

896
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: the line. But what you're asking people to do, let's

897
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: say that let's say you're the Let's say you're the

898
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: We'll say you're the five seed. I don't know, I

899
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: don't know who it is. Say you're the five seed,

900
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: so four teams get to buy It means you're a

901
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: conference champion, the five seed.

902
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: Playing at home in the first round. Play at home

903
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: in the first round.

904
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: But then all of a sudden, you go to bowl game,

905
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: travel to a another bowl game, then you travel to

906
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: the National Championship.

907
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: You're not gonna make it anyway, that's I mean, when

908
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: you might.

909
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 4: That's why that's why I used the five seed, because

910
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 4: the five seed is gonna have to you know, maybe

911
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 4: there's not much between the five and the four well,

912
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: the four gets to buy. The five's got to play

913
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: that on campus game, which is great, it's on their campus.

914
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: That's fine.

915
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: But you're gonna ask even the top four teams to

916
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 4: play bowl game, travel another bowl game, and then travel

917
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: NA National Championship.

918
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: All right.

919
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: So I'm TCU and I'm playing give me a school

920
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: that would be high in a Louisville. Yeah, they have

921
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: a great year. I'm TCU. Im playing Louisville at home, right,

922
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: I knock them off? Right now, I'm going to the

923
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl, right, I gotta bring my fans out there,

924
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: bring all my fans. And if I win that, I'm

925
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna be in the Sugar or something. And I gotta

926
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: bring fans to that. Then you win and you're in

927
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: the Natty. Now you gotta travel to that. So but

928
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: the Natty, I think these bowls are gonna sell a

929
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: lot of tickets. These games are different now, they're playoff games. Yeah,

930
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: They're not your garden variety New Year's Day Bowls anymore.

931
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: They're not.

932
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna get for the Orange

933
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Bowl this year as a Virginia Tech versus whoever.

934
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: Again, I don't want to see that right.

935
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 4: But I don't think you're gonna get fifty to fifty anymore.

936
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: I think what you're gonna.

937
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 2: Get, Oh no, you're gonna get a casual.

938
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Fan crowd thirty forty thirty thirty one team, forty the

939
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: other and thirty local fans. You know, fans just want

940
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: to watch them a great bowl tournament, right right, right,

941
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna end up getting. I think they're

942
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna end up getting a thirty forty thirty thirty team

943
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: to one forty team two. Look like in basketball, Kentucky,

944
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Kentucky's gonna you know, Kentucky gets to the final four.

945
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: But those fans find their way.

946
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: But it's one trip to the final four after going

947
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: to the regional and then the first second round of.

948
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: The weeks before that. They'll find a way.

949
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: But the one thing that NCAA basketball tournament did was

950
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: what if you were a high seed?

951
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: What they do? They limited travel.

952
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 4: Kentucky will play the first two rounds in Louisville, They'll

953
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 4: play the second two in Saint Louis and then the

954
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: final four is wherever the final four is. I don't

955
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: know if they'll end up doing that with football as well,

956
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: but I do think that is going to be a

957
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 4: financial burden to be able to to have to go

958
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: to an additional bowl game if you if you play

959
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: the two champions like Washington and Michigan. Washington played down

960
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: in Sugar Bowl and they had they had a great attendance.

961
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: For the game.

962
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: I was shocked. They had a great attendance for the

963
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: National Championship game. Michigan went all the way out to

964
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: Pasadena played Rose Bowl.

965
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: Now they got to come here. They had a great attendance.

966
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 4: I just think if you tacked another bowl game onto that.

967
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: That's the boys.

968
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: It gets very dicey, very icy, and especially if you're

969
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: a big time school that did not happen to win

970
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: your conference. You're going on the road to play. Let's

971
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: say you're going on the road first round. You know,

972
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: Georgia loses a couple of games, but they're in it

973
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: and they're getting hot late. Yeah they didn't win their conference,

974
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: but they're getting hot late, right, and they went on

975
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: the road. Then they have to go to a bowl

976
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: to play.

977
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

978
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: Look, maybe they get their fans, but you're right, year

979
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: after year kind of like the n AL think in

980
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: a different way. Year after year, are you taxing your

981
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: fans and your donor is way too much with all that.

982
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: That's exactly. That's a great way of putting it. Because

983
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: back in the day, all the alums had to really

984
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 4: worry about was well, for the most part, facilities. Yeah,

985
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: but now you gotta worry about facilities, and in IL

986
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: now it's facilities in IL potential. You know, travel, that's

987
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: a that's expensive travel too. But that being set, that

988
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: being set, take that part out. But I wanted to

989
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: make sure that because people, I mean people need to

990
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: know that. I get what it is to ask the

991
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: fans to come to game after game after game in

992
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: a playoff situation.

993
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: Guess what, those games are gonna be awesome. They're gonna

994
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: be awesome. They're gonna be freaking off TV audiences are

995
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: going to I can't say double, but they're going to

996
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: be extremely high. These are not Exhibition Bowl games anymore.

997
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: These are now playoff games, the home site games. You

998
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: do not want to miss these. You don't want to

999
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: miss that, right. So whoever hosting, whoever, I don't care

1000
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: who it is.

1001
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: This is a division one FBS.

1002
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Why do we call it the FBS still, Yeah, forget that,

1003
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: just call a D one and one double A.

1004
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: My gosh, these would have been your first round games

1005
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 2: this year.

1006
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 4: All right, Oklahoma at Florida State, uh Ole Miss at Georgia,

1007
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: Penn State at Ohio State.

1008
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean, who's not watching that?

1009
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: Missouri at Oregon. Yeah, Michigan would play let's see to.

1010
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: The play, get a buye.

1011
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michigan after a bye would have played the winner

1012
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: of Oregon Missouri. Washington would have played the winner of

1013
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: Ohio State Penn State. Texas would get Georgia, oh Miss

1014
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: winner Alabama would get Florida State.

1015
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma, Texas gets Georgia in some bowl game.

1016
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. But you know what, you're already

1017
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: in the final four right there. Yeah, and you're losing

1018
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: the final four. You're losing the final four.

1019
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: That's it, all right. The quarterback who wants.

1020
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: Out, well he hasn't said it officially, Justin Field's unfollowed

1021
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: the Bears.

1022
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: That's a sign. Yeah, that's a sign, my friends. And

1023
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: that's what you do these days.

1024
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: You go to your social media and you wipe your

1025
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 4: social media of all of your teams.

1026
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: But it doesn't always mean you're gonna leave. Because look

1027
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: at Kyler Murray and other examples as well.

1028
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: Yep, so it can.

1029
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: Change, but that's kind of the I guess the way

1030
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: the kids do it now. Yep, they're like, hey, I'm

1031
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: just hashtag justin fields. So now Bears QB justin fields,

1032
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 4: hashtag justin field.

1033
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: When the Bear's visit here this year NRG Stadium visit

1034
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: is Caleb Williams the quarterbacks. Okay, that's all we need

1035
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: to know. And that's it for the show. Area forty

1036
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: five coming up with Sean and Patrick. We're back tomorrow night.

1037
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm in the lab stuff and who knows what else

1038
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: on a draft Wednesday. Thanks for listening. This show will

1039
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: be up on podcasts soon enough, Go Texans