1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: What's going on. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: This is Zia Franklin, linebacker the Annapolis Colts, and this 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: is the NFL Report. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, went over to the NFL Report. I'm Steve 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Weisch with my co pilot James Palmer. I'm not actually 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: with my toe pilot. I'm in our LA studios James Palmer. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: He is in Indianapolis, resided Franklin the Colts play because 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: he's there at the combine. 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: It's that time of your JP. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: And on our show, we have got Andy Reid, the 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: Chiefs head coach. We've got Brett Viach, the Chiefs general manager. 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: We have got the information from Ryan Poles, the Bears 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: general manager. And we're gonna be talking to Less Sneed, 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: the Rams general manager. And Tom pelisera or NFL network insider. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: He's got some more for us too. Is a loaded show, JP. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: But since you are in Knaptown, tell us what's going 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: down there. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 5: Well, Steve, let's start at the top, right, and that's 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 5: starting at the top of this draft. Number one overall 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 5: pick belongs to as you mentioned him, Ryan Poles, the 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 5: general manager of the Chicago Bears. He's having several meetings 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: I'm told with people obviously about Justin Fields obvious about 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 5: people interested to trade up for that number one pick. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 5: To my understanding, Steve, some of those conversations are happening 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 5: in the private suite that Ryan Poles has here that 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 5: also includes a golf simulator. 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: If he gets bored. 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: I don't know. 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: If he's like Tom Cruise and a few good men. 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 5: He thinks better with his bat, but he's got a 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 5: golf club there to swing well. He goes through some 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: of these conversations and the biggest pick of the draft. 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: So we had our very own friend of the show, 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 5: Stacey DALs, have an exclusive conversation with Ryan Poles about 35 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: that number one pick and about his current quarterback, Justin Fields. 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Roll of tape, Elsie. 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 6: The one thing that's important for us is just continue 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 6: to communicate and be transparent with Justin, and we'll continue 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 6: to do that with him and his team, but we 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 6: have to be open minded about everything. What you do 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 6: appreciate about Justin is his leadership, his mindset that he's 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 6: had over the last two years. Things have not been easy, 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 6: but his stability, his confidence in himself, his leadership has 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 6: continued to grow as we've gone along, and that makes 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 6: all of these decisions so complicated because I care about 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 6: the guy a lot too, so I mentioned it before. 47 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 6: You know, no one likes to live in gray, right. 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 6: You want to know where am I going? Am I 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 6: staying here? All of those things. So we'll continue to communicate. 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 6: But he has done a great job, just getting better 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 6: every single year we've been together. 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, he had a career season really in terms of 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 7: his numbers. What trade talks have come up around his name? 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? Nothing right now. 55 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 6: I know some people have kind of touch base with 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 6: different parts of my team, just kind of testing the water, 57 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 6: seeing what's going on, but no serious conversations have happened 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 6: right now. The question really is like can you pass 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 6: on like the right quarterback? 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: Right, so. 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 6: That person's got to fit exactly what we need to 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 6: be successful for a long period of time. And then 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 6: when you talk about the contract, like that's what makes 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 6: this so dynamic. It's the short term, but there's also 65 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 6: a long term setup as well when it comes to 66 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 6: a contract, you know, for a veteran quarterback or for 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: a rookie contract. So again, all of those things are 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 6: going to be put together and we'll make the best decisions. 69 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 7: Just kind of lastly, what would it take if you 70 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 7: were to trade a Justin Fields. 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 8: I mean a lot of people love him. 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 7: What would it take in terms of capital getting back 73 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 7: for a player of his caliber. 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're still working through that. 75 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: It's hard to say right now. 76 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: I think at the end of the day, it's you know, 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 6: if we go down that route and we continue to listen, 78 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 6: we'll see what the teams are out there kind of 79 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 6: talking about what makes sense for everyone, But it's hard 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 6: to really put something on it right now. 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 7: We appreciate you stopping. That's Ryan Poles, GM of the Bears. 82 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 8: Thanks so much. 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: Oh and do we appreciate our great teammate Stacy Deals 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: with a great interview right there. I thought Ryan Poles 85 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: is very transparent. So here's some things. It feels me 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: exactly what's going on. Justin Fields is out of there. 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Not once Ryan Poles say Justin Fields is our guy. 88 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Like we heard Todd Bowles, the Buccaneers coach, come out 89 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: and say Baker Mayfield priority never said that, Oh, what's 90 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: the compensation going to be? Well, we don't know right now. 91 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: Well that follows him saying no, one's really kind of 92 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: gone in there. They got to figure out what a 93 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: team is going to be willing to take. From that 94 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: conversation right there, Justin Fields is going to be on 95 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: the move, and it looks like Caleb Williams is going 96 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: to be the first overall pick JP. But again, the 97 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: interesting part about that also is heard Ryan Poles say 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: nobody likes to live in the gray. We know Justin 99 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: Fields has said on the podcast with ross Aint bron 100 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: Equemius Emnemious ross Aint Brown that he wants to know 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: as soon as possible. We won't know until a team 102 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: comes to the table with some deal, so there could 103 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: be some gray going on. But Justin Fields, again based 104 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: on that conversation, tells me he's out of there and 105 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is going to be the Chicago Bears quarterback 106 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. 107 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 5: Well, Steve, you mentioned Caleb Williams. Ryan Poles has talked 108 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 5: about him plenty at this combine, and I think the 109 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: interesting part about it is that he was there for 110 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: that draft process of Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City, who 111 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 5: is the guy that Let's just be clear, nobody is 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes on this planet. But there are a lot 113 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: of traits that Caleb Williams possesses that make people think 114 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: of Patrick Mahomes. He had a great line here and 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: it was specifically said to Stacy in another part of 116 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 5: that interview that one of his scouts, Jeff King, says 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 5: quarterbacks are either artists or surgeons, Steve, and he meant, 118 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: there's a lot of comparisons in terms of the arm talent, 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 5: the different arm angles that Caleb william uses that reminds 120 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 5: him of Patrick Mahomes. But what the biggest part of 121 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: their draft process of Mahomes was when they had a chance. 122 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: To meet with him for the first time. 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 5: It was r at the combine and spend a lot 124 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 5: of time with him and fall in love with him 125 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 5: as a person and a player, And that was a 126 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: big part of drafting Patrick Mahomes and knowing his personal makeup. 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 5: They know what they do on the field, Steve, but 128 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 5: also you have to know what makes up the player himself. 129 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: And Ryan Pulls starting to do that with Caleb Williams 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 5: right now, real. 131 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: Looks stuff, JP, some stuff coming down the line. Well, 132 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: another team that looks like they're getting ready to bounce 133 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: their veteran quarterback and to possibly draft another one is 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos and JP there at the combine, head 135 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: coach Sean Payton and GM George Peyton had some very 136 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: interesting things to say about Russell Wilson and their future quarterback. 137 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 9: We're we want to see the entire landscape. We had 138 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 9: to get through our draft meetings, you know, we had 139 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 9: to get through our free agent meetings and evaluate with 140 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 9: what we have, and so we just want to get 141 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 9: through the process. Sean needs to see all these quarterbacks. 142 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 9: The coaches need to see all these quarterbacks until we 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 9: make an informed decision. 144 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 10: I think Tuesday, Wednesday, we'll be in meetings with ownership, 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 10: and so I expect I expect that we're going to 146 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 10: know fairly quickly. I said it's a Super Bowl, but 147 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 10: I think more specifically, I think, you know, somewhere in 148 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 10: the neighborhood next week where we're going to there's a 149 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 10: couple factors here. You know, obviously the cap projections came out, 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 10: We're further down the road with the draft class, obviously 151 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 10: the pro free agents. So I would I would anticipate 152 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 10: it being, you know, within the next two weeks. I 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 10: saw this like humorous meme the other day where there's 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 10: a Bronco fan with a shirt on and there was 155 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 10: like eight quarterbacks names across through it, you know, and 156 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 10: he's drinking the quarterback kool aid, and you know, our 157 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 10: job is to make sure that this next one, you know, 158 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 10: doesn't have a line through it. 159 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: Well, that's pretty clear there, Steve though, hoping the next 160 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: one doesn't have a line through it. He's literally saying 161 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: the next one and the two weeks is in reference 162 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 5: to Russell Wilson and his future. But if you listen 163 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: to the second part of the clip, you would say 164 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: that in the next two weeks they will be parting 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: ways with Russell Wilson, where right now there is no 166 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 5: trade talk by any stretch. No team has reached out, 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: to my understanding, to the Denver Broncos regarding h for 168 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson, as they probably still believe that release is happening. 169 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 5: The biggest thing that Sean Payton said repeatedly, and he 170 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: has said this to me privately as well, is multitasking, 171 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 5: the ability to do a variety of things at the 172 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: same time playing the quarterback position, whether that's how quickly 173 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: you deliver the verbiage, how quickly you can go through 174 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: your progressions, how you are able to communicate and work 175 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: within this offense. Doing a variety of things, whether that's 176 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: with motions or other aspects of handling an entire offense 177 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: is very very high priority for Sean Payton in this process. 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 5: He believes quarterbacks like Tua Ton Devoloa can do that. 179 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes can do that. Obviously, Drew Brees, who he 180 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 5: had for a long time, can do that. He doesn't 181 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: think of Russell Wilson, to my understanding, in that same vein. 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: So he's obviously looking for those traits and who the 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: next quarterback is going to be. 184 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and that's the question. 185 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: As much as we're wondering where Russell Wilson's going to 186 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: end up, will be a bridge quarterback, will he be 187 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: a backup quarterback, will he get a shot to start? 188 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: What's going to happen in Denver because right now we 189 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: are in the Hacksta Lynch, brock us Weiler category of 190 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: maybe options out there they. 191 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 8: Don't want to go back to. 192 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: As Sean Payton said, the names that are crossed out, 193 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: it's gonna be very intriguing to see if Denver makes 194 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: a move to get up in the draft, they wait 195 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: for one of these quarterbacks to possibly fall to them. 196 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: Or if they do. 197 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 8: Something you trade or free agency. 198 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: Also ound to the Sean Payton Rock with Arara Saint 199 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 3: Germain the soccer club. 200 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 8: As his hoodie said. 201 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: For those of you listening only on the podcast, will 202 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Jap coming up. We're talking about a team with a 203 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: quarterback stability. That's the Canvas City Chiefs and Andy Reid. 204 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: Big Red's gonna give us some insight on the surgeon 205 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: or is it an artist? Next on the NFL Report, 206 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: the NFL Combine presented by Noble, where a dream that 207 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: starts small can get big and a name that's unknown 208 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: can become the future. 209 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 4: Next is here the. 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 8: Twenty twenty four NFL Combine. 211 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: Tomorrow starts with d linman and linebackers, followed by dvs 212 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: and tight ends on Friday, then the big one on Saturday. 213 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 8: That's the quarterbacks, wide receivers and running backs. 214 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: And we finished it up Sunday with the offensive lineman 215 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: live on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus. 216 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 5: Well, Steve, you know who's gonna like to take a 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 5: look at those offensive linemen. 218 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: It's Big Red. 219 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 5: It's the head coach of the back to back Super 220 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 5: Bowl champions Kansas City Chiefs. That's Andy Reid and also 221 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: general manager Brett Veach. Both of those guys the architects 222 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 5: of this, as we may call it, Steve, a dynasty 223 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 5: that's getting put together in Kansas City. I had a 224 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: chance to talk to both of them here in Indianapolis 225 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 5: with some exclusive conversations, Brett Veach and I breaking down 226 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: a lot of the behind the scenes things that could 227 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: happen with free agents coming up in other contracts he 228 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 5: has to deal with. But first, how about Andy Reid 229 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: and I having a conversation Steve about Patrick Mahomes and 230 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: what he grew with this season, A monster mind, monster 231 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: year for his career potentially, But also why is Andy 232 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: here in Indianapolis? 233 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: Roll the tape, Elsie, Andy. 234 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: The first thing that jumps out of me is how 235 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 5: long you've been doing this and there's coaches that are 236 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 5: opting not to come here. What do you gain out 237 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: of your experience here in Indianapolis that helps your club. 238 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 11: It's the first time that you have a chance to 239 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 11: kind of meet the guys sitting from talk to them, 240 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 11: see how they handle you and how they handle your coaches. 241 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 11: I don't really care about the workout stuff as much 242 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 11: as I care about that. We have that all on tape, 243 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 11: but be right there with the kids, sitting six feet 244 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 11: away from them, and it'll talk to him and kind 245 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 11: of quiz them through things. I think is a good introduction, 246 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 11: at least to the player. 247 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 5: With that said, the continuity that you guys have been 248 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: able to continue with, What advantage does that give you 249 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: when you're going through this process, Andy, because you can 250 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: I guess you're all looking for the same thing or 251 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 5: know what you're looking for. 252 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, well Brett listen, Brett has all that up, you know, 253 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 11: and he does a heck of a job with it. 254 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 11: His communication with us, you know, the coaches is great. 255 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 11: There are no walls with his scouts or no walls, 256 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 11: and that becomes so important in the continuity part of it, 257 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 11: consistency and we know, we all know you're not gonna 258 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 11: be very good if you don't have good players, you know, 259 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 11: and so it vests everybody together to find the best 260 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 11: guy for your team and hopefully cuts down on that 261 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 11: error margin. And that becomes you know, that becomes important 262 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 11: for us. 263 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned your best players, your quarterback. 264 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 5: I had a conversation with your offensive coordinator and Matt 265 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: nagu told. 266 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Me a couple days for the Super Bowl. 267 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: This season is going to be great for Patrick's career 268 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 5: in terms of I'm not sure what he meant. I'm 269 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: curious what your opinion is in terms of what this 270 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 5: past year did for Patrick and maybe in the long run. 271 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 11: Well, the offense wasn't doing too well. We've always been 272 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 11: the number one offense and all of a sudden we're not. 273 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 11: So you got the outside scrutiny, but you're also trying 274 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 11: to fix it and grow it. In our case, we 275 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 11: have way too many drops, way too many penalties, new 276 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 11: guys and on the offensive line, new guys opposite Kelse 277 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 11: and without experience. So as Rashi grew, our offense kind 278 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 11: of grew and we were able to get the ball 279 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 11: out quicker, we were able to keep things more inside 280 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 11: the numbers. Kelse became better because he had somebody opposite 281 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 11: working with him where they couldn't just always double him, 282 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 11: and Rashie built himself a nice foundation that he can 283 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 11: take his crong. In the meantime, you have this MVP 284 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 11: quarterback that had patience with it and was. 285 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: Willing to teach. 286 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 11: So I think that's probably what Matt meant was he 287 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 11: took a positive road moving forward, where other guys were 288 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 11: getting frustrated, He's kept a positive, positive attitude and people 289 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 11: followed him. 290 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: So last one, I know you're not going to talk numbers. 291 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: I'm not going to talk your contract, Andy, but there 292 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: is you know, word out there that you're going to 293 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: be signing an extension most likely soon. How excited are 294 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 5: you to be just kind of probably locked in and 295 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: years to come. 296 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: We all were worried pre Super Bowl. 297 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, that all take place I here quickly, I'm sure. 298 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 11: But I mean Clark, there's no no better person to 299 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 11: work for than Clark Hunt. I mean I felt that 300 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 11: way with Jeff Flurry. I feel that way with Clark Hunt. 301 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 11: And I've been fortunate Green Bay Packers. They don't have 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 11: an owner, but I was fortunate to be there. So 303 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 11: I'm not getting any younger. 304 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: And so. 305 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 11: You know, I appreciate Kansas City. I mean, I love it. 306 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 11: We love it there, and I love the organization. I 307 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 11: get to work with three great guys or two great guys, 308 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 11: and I work were more than that. 309 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: But I mean I've got. 310 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 11: Mark, I've got Clark Hunt, Mark Donovan, and Bret Veitch, 311 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 11: which is the three I'd already mentioned Clark, So that 312 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 11: was the two. But those guys, I mean I work 313 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 11: work with them every day and and I've got the 314 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 11: opportunity to do do things that that Clark gives us, 315 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 11: the opportunity, all three of us to do things to 316 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 11: help us win. And that's all, you know, that's all 317 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 11: you can look for. 318 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: So when you say you're not getting any younger, but 319 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: you're still doing it an unbelievable level. 320 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 12: Thank you, Mane. 321 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate James. Thanks you. 322 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, brought back to back Super Bowls. So I have 323 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: to start with this. 324 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: You're I guess a seasoned veteran at a shorter processing 325 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: time to start evaluating things for the combine. Is there 326 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: a method to this now that you know you have 327 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 5: a little bit less time? 328 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 13: No, those are those are good problems to have, and 329 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 13: it's always you know, difficult asking at caught up to 330 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 13: spe But I think you know, the method I have 331 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 13: is to rely on the great and elseaff I have 332 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 13: and there are always one step ahead the game, whether 333 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 13: that be freegency or the draft. So you know, once 334 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 13: you get back from Vegas, I mean you're right in 335 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 13: those draft meetings and you know it's hard to catch 336 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 13: a breath. But fortunately I have those guys, and you 337 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 13: know they have me well cut up to speed and 338 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 13: prep for all this. 339 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: Everybody obviously wants to know what you're going to do 340 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: with Chris Jones and saw how well he played. Again, 341 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: you guys went through this process last year. I'm curious, 342 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 5: as you're talking to his reps now, does that make 343 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: things harder or easier that you guys didn't get something 344 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: done but you did kind of start the conversation a 345 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 5: year ago. 346 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 12: I think to a. 347 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: Certain extent that makes it easier. 348 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 13: You know, we have a great deal of respect for 349 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 13: his agents, and we have obviously we have a great 350 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 13: deal of respect for Chris, and I think our goal 351 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 13: and and intentions were to get something done last year. 352 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 13: We weren't able to get it done. We hit a 353 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 13: little rough patch there, you know, the week of that 354 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 13: Detroit game. But I'll tell you give him and his 355 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 13: crew a ton of credit because we met right after 356 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 13: that game and had a great conversation and we talked 357 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 13: about some of the things and how this may all 358 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 13: play out. And so here we are, and I think 359 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 13: to your point, we have that kind of backlog of 360 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 13: dialogue that that we've shared and you know, listen, we're cautiously, 361 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 13: cautiously optimistic, and he's a great player, and you know, 362 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 13: these things are never easy, but we're gonna certainly put 363 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 13: our best, our best foot forward and try to get 364 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 13: something done. 365 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: So where do things kind of stand. I'm curious with 366 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: him and LJ. With I mean, you could possibly use 367 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 5: the tag. I'm assuming you're you're thinking that's an option, 368 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: But have you started those conversations And yeah. 369 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 13: We've had some initial phone conversations. But you know, actually 370 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 13: I think we have LJ and and Chris back to 371 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 13: back days there. I think later on today and then tomorrow, 372 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 13: I think we will you know, by the time we 373 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 13: get through the end of the workday Wednesday, we'll have 374 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 13: met with both of you know, their team members, and 375 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 13: you know, we'll start that process. We do have a tag. 376 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 13: I mean, the title be hard for Chris, but we 377 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 13: do have a tag at our disposal there for for 378 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 13: you know, potentially one of those players. But you know, 379 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 13: we're gonna work through it. And as I said back 380 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 13: in Las Vegas during Super Bowl Week, our goal and 381 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 13: our plan is to you know, do what we can 382 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 13: to you know, retain both players, and if we could 383 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 13: do that great, but we also know how this league 384 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 13: works and nothing's for sure, nothing is guaranteed, so we'll 385 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 13: have continuency plans and backup plans if we can't. 386 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 5: There two other guys I'm curious about, and this is 387 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: a problem you're creating when you draft Well, then you 388 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 5: got to pay those guys their second deal when you 389 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: draft Well in the same drafts a Tray Smith and 390 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: Freed Humphrey, those guys are coming around the corner. Where 391 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: do things stand with both of those guys, because obviously 392 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: you want to keep that interior intact. 393 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 13: Yeah, those are all great problems to have, and a 394 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 13: lot of good players. I think you know, we'll have 395 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 13: a chance to meet with their crew this week as well. 396 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 13: I think it'll be a little bit of a different timeframe. 397 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 13: I think what we'll do is we'll attack free agency 398 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 13: and the guys that are up and the guys that 399 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 13: we need answers on right away. 400 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: We'll knock this out. 401 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 13: We'll put that plan into place, we'll get through the draft, 402 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 13: and once we get through the draft and see how 403 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 13: our roster looks after freegency and the draft and undrafted freegency, 404 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 13: then we'll have a time to catch up, breath and 405 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 13: then get with them and start fresh. And know a 406 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 13: lot of it depends too on you know what these 407 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 13: deals look like for the guys that we bring in 408 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 13: this year, and you know what the cash flows in 409 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 13: the contract looks like, and you know what that means 410 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 13: for some of those young guys and how we can 411 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 13: best fit them into our plans. But as you mentioned, 412 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 13: we love all those guys and you know we'll work 413 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 13: very hard to get as many of those player zone 414 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 13: as we can. 415 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned the cash flow. 416 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 5: I'm curious now that we're several years into Pat's deal, 417 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 5: has that been an advantage or having the it's it's 418 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: so unique, you know what I mean that does that 419 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 5: Has that been able to be an advantage for you 420 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 5: as you build the rest of your roster because that 421 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 5: length of that contract. 422 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, we'll always we'll have two things. We'll 423 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 13: you know, we'll have length and then we'll have just 424 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 13: you know, that great relationship and that you know, that 425 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 13: trust that we're always gonna look out for one another. 426 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 13: And you know that's how we've handled that contract from 427 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 13: from the beginning. And you know, last year we had 428 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 13: a chance in a window there to adjust it for him, 429 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 13: and we did. And you know, I'm sure we'll have 430 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 13: great dialogue moving forward, you know, so that we can 431 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 13: all work together to you know, put the best product 432 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 13: out there possible. 433 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: All right, go after that three people. 434 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: Awesome, let's do it. Yeah. Thanks, great job of that, JP. 435 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad you snagged those guys. 436 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 8: Look. 437 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: The one thing and listening to Andy Reid talk about 438 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, I. 439 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 8: Mean, what's the light that comes on over your head? 440 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: JP, that's Tom Brady. That is how people describe. 441 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, That's how people describe Tom Brady. Right. 442 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 8: For years, all you heard was Tom Brady would talk 443 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 8: to the last guy on the practice squad, to. 444 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: The star receiver or running back after practice, before practice, 445 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: to make sure they were all on the same page, 446 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: to make sure if this guy got. 447 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 8: Hurt, you know, you could slide in like that, JP. 448 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 3: Well done again, great stuff by Andy Reid right there. 449 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: And one thing is I sent it to you that 450 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: I love that Brett Viach said is kind of the 451 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: TikTok and how they prioritize free agency, potential, trades, franchise tags, 452 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: things like that. 453 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: You heard him in that interview Steve kind of hint. 454 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: Right, we're putting variety of scenarios in place regarding Lagarius Sneed. 455 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: We can tag him, we'd like him to be here 456 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: long term. 457 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 5: With Chris Jones, that's not a tag option, but we'd 458 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 5: like him to be here long term. But he men 459 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 5: mentioned in there right. There's a variety of scenarios we're 460 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: putting in place. One of those involves letting Lagarious Need 461 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: go and see if he could seek a trade because 462 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 5: there are other people that he needs to sign down 463 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: the road II Creed Humphrey or Trey Smith. But keep 464 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 5: your eye, Steve on them looking at veteran wide receivers 465 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 5: right now as well as receivers in this draft. They 466 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 5: are not going to go into the twenty twenty four 467 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 5: season too of wide receivers in that room right now. 468 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 5: I don't know, would he swing at Mike Evans. We'll 469 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: see if they swing at Mike Evans, we'll fig that out. 470 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 5: But I know, I know exactly, I know Brettfeach is 471 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 5: going to make those calls, Steve, and he might make 472 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: a call to I don't know another general manager that 473 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 5: knows a lot about receivers. That's less Snead he's going 474 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 5: to join the show and he found a diamond in 475 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 5: the rough and Puka Nakua, one of Steve's favorite players 476 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 5: in the NFL this past year. We're going to talk 477 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 5: about why Less's approach was maybe a little bit different, 478 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: but why it works for him and Sean McVeigh. The 479 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: Rams general manager, Less sneed joins the NFL Report. 480 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 14: Next. 481 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: You're listening to the NFL Report podcast, but you can 482 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: watch me, Steve Weich and my co host James Palmer 483 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: on the NFL Report at seven fifteen Eastern Time on 484 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: Mondays and Thursdays on the NFL App and free streaming 485 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: platforms on the NFL Channel on Roku, two b, Peacock, 486 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: Pluto TV and other free streaming apps. It's time for 487 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: the lead block, presented by T Mobile for Business, a 488 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: sport as fast as football deserves America's fastest five G network. 489 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: Businesses go further with T Mobile for Business With. 490 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 15: The first pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the 491 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 15: Los Angeles Rams select Jared Goff, quarterback California. 492 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer. 493 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: We are now joined by Rams gener manager Less Snead. 494 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: Unless I didn't play that video because of the pick 495 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: of Jared Golf. We played that video because of the year. 496 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: Eight drafts ago was the last time you used a 497 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: first round draft pick. How does it feel to finally 498 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: have one at your oh. 499 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Use this year? 500 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 501 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 14: You know what you mentioned before we got on this thing, 502 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 14: let's have some fun. So I do think this is 503 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 14: going to be a fun draft. We're gonna have to 504 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 14: work on Thursday night. And then as I played that, 505 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 14: we couldn't Nope, but I couldn't help. But just visualize, 506 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 14: you know, hunting the ball to Detroit and Jared kind 507 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 14: of finishing the game on a few completed passes. So 508 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 14: give Jared Golf credit, you know what I mean? You 509 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 14: know how it goes in the cool narrative, right that 510 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 14: we draft Jared, we trade Jared, and he he wins 511 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 14: a playoff game in Detroit for the first time in 512 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 14: a million years against his old team. So isn't that 513 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 14: a cool narrative right there, Radia, Unless you're. 514 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: A ram I got asked, right, So as you want 515 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 5: to prove your team less, I have to ask you. 516 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 5: You have this first round pick, are you going to 517 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: keep that first round pick? 518 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 14: I just did a press conference with our local media 519 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 14: and they asked me the same question. So here's what 520 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 14: I'll say. It's it's a really really valuable piece of 521 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 14: real estate to have. Whether we pick it nineteen, I'm 522 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 14: not sure. There's so many variables that go into whether 523 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 14: we pick at nineteen, right, do we do we move up? 524 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 14: Do we move back? And I remember one year we 525 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 14: actually we actually in that stretch that drought I think 526 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 14: I think you mentioned eight years whatever it was, we 527 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 14: actually we we had the thirty first pick in the 528 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 14: draft at one time during that stretch the year after 529 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 14: we finished with the silver metal metal instead of the 530 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 14: gold against the New England Patriots and that Super Bowl. 531 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 14: But we did trade back into the second round to 532 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 14: continue to shriek. So it'd be interesting, right do we 533 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 14: just say, you know what, let's continue to shriek for 534 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 14: Streak's sake and oh boy a couple of times the 535 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 14: second round. 536 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, that'll go over well less. I'm the Rams fans, 537 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 8: I really love that. 538 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: But look, with the rate of success you guys have had, 539 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, I want to rephrase, I want to get 540 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: to this because every year we talk about teams trading 541 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: up to get into that top part of the draft, 542 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: like you did back in twenty sixteen when you gave 543 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: up all that freight to move. I think it was 544 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: from eleven to one. I'm not quite sure, but I 545 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: think it was in that ballpark with Tennessee. 546 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 14: What might have been even further back than that. 547 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 3: It really what does it take, like when you're sitting 548 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: sitting in that seat like right now, like some teams 549 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: may be trying to get up into the top three. 550 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: This year to get one of these quarterbacks. 551 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 8: What type of ingenuity does it take to make a 552 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 8: move like that? 553 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 14: Well, I think the I think we were talking about 554 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 14: Thomas de Metrop before we came on the air. I 555 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 14: was in Atlanta when Thomas as GM made to move 556 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 14: from from way back to get Julio Jones right there. 557 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 14: There was an element of learning some lessons there. Going 558 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 14: back to the Jared pick, what's very interesting is to 559 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 14: add contact to that whole deal we had played. We 560 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 14: had spent a lot of years playing really good defense, 561 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 14: uh in Saint Louis, and then subsequently probably uh maybe 562 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 14: not LA. Then we're moving LA within, so let's just 563 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 14: call it Saint Louis. What we had struggled with is 564 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 14: continuity at QB. And when I walked in when I 565 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 14: was fortunate enough to get the GM job in Saint Louis, 566 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 14: Sam Bradford was a QB. He he had gone through 567 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 14: two unfortunate aco injuries. So now we get to that draft. 568 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 14: What's very interesting is, and this is. 569 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 16: The the it's sometimes I say it's easy to identify. 570 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 16: It's easier maybe to identify and that's even hard to write. 571 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 16: To identify a college QB who's going to come in 572 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 16: and let's call it be your franchise QB. 573 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 14: The hard thing to do is to acquire that player. Right. 574 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 14: So in that year, though, I do know with the Titans, 575 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 14: the year before they had done Mariota, Tampa Bay had 576 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 14: done Winston. So the Titans were sitting at a spot 577 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 14: where you knew they weren't going to draft the QB 578 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 14: for the most part, and so recognizing that early and 579 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 14: going you know what, Wow, this could be an opportunity 580 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 14: to actually acquire QB. So we had identified QB's let's 581 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 14: call it Jared Carson. There was a few others in 582 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 14: the draft, and then at that point in time, you're like, wow, 583 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 14: maybe we could actually acquire the QB. And then at 584 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 14: the combine Indy, where y'all are at now is probably 585 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 14: the first time John Robinson and I had the conversation 586 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 14: on us moving up and the Titans moving back. 587 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 5: Unless you you you mentioned in Indy you had that conversation. 588 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: You're not in Indie right now. You haven't come. 589 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: What have you learned over the years about the process 590 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: that works for you guys with the rams and not 591 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 5: coming to the combine? 592 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 14: You know what I mean, Steve, I would say this, 593 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 14: we value the combine. We probably have a less traditional 594 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 14: footprint on the ground at the combine. I can tell 595 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 14: you this our our I mean Jake Timmy who kind 596 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 14: of runs our analytics, like who's an analysis. They're chomping 597 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 14: at the bit to get some of the right some 598 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 14: of the numbers that are going to come out of Indie. 599 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 14: I know we'll with technology today. I know after after 600 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 14: the position groups work out on Thursday, we will get 601 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 14: a video of those players into our system and by 602 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 14: Friday afternoon, I'll have a write up from our scouts 603 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 14: right on how they thought they did. And let's call 604 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 14: it the non football drills. So what's interesting what we 605 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 14: felt like for efficiency of time is especially as we 606 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 14: get the coaches involved and we try to come up 607 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 14: with a collaborative plan on the draft of who fits, 608 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 14: who gives us an edge, and things like that. The 609 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 14: things that with the coaches getting involved so late, with 610 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 14: us losing coaches a lot of times right after the 611 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 14: season based on success, that's what trying to get in 612 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 14: that continuity. Here's what we don't have enough time. What 613 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 14: we want to do more is watch more football film, right, 614 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 14: and we will be able to use all the data 615 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 14: that comes from the combine. Right, We'll chop it up, 616 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 14: we'll analyze it, and we'll add it to our process. 617 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 14: We'll add it to our decision make and tree all 618 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 14: those things. So I would just say this, it's just 619 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 14: a little less traditional footprint there. But Jeff Foster, nfs, 620 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 14: they do a great job. We just feel like it's 621 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 14: probably more efficient for Sean and I coaching staff to 622 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 14: be here versus Indy. 623 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: Well, let's so you see the drills, right, you see 624 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 3: the testing and the drills, But what about the in 625 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: person because a lot of folks, you know, Andy Reid 626 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: even said this is the first time he may get 627 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: to look at these guys in the eye and kind 628 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: of get a read on them, but also let them 629 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: get a read on you. 630 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 8: Do you miss any of that or do you just 631 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 8: say we'll pick. 632 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: That up later when we bring them into our building 633 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: on the personal invite. 634 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 14: What we try to do is is is uh. The 635 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 14: answer would be, we don't think we miss We may 636 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 14: miss out on it. Let's call it this week, right, 637 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 14: but it is in terms of eighteen minutes. We've done 638 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 14: a lot of research. Again, our paradigms different. We feel like, okay, 639 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 14: maybe maybe we instead of being there just to get 640 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 14: eighteen minutes with forty eight players, it's better served to 641 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 14: be here doing some other things. And then we value 642 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 14: in tangibles right immenseally. We firmly believe right a player 643 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 14: is gifted with some physical let's call it traits to 644 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 14: be able to possibly play football, possibly give the Rams 645 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 14: or any team an NFL at edge. But I always 646 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 14: go to the part of that calculus form that is 647 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 14: very important is the intangibles that player has, and you 648 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 14: blend all that up and using talent plus in tangibles 649 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 14: will probably equal right, the edge that player can give 650 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 14: to us. We value it well, we just think it's 651 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 14: better for us than to let's call it sit down 652 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 14: with that player somewhere else, somewhere where we have more 653 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 14: than just eighteen minutes, and somewhere also where the player 654 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 14: is not focused. Let's just say this, a player could 655 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 14: have ten interviews in one night. That's pretty exhausting. We're 656 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 14: able to maybe go visit that on you know, technically 657 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 14: rules are really you go visit that player on his setting, 658 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 14: sit down with him for maybe definitely more than eighteen minutes. 659 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 14: Usually it's up to you know, somewhere between three and 660 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 14: four hours, and you know, get to know that person 661 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 14: there and also also see I'm talking a lot. But 662 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 14: what it also allows us to do is is really 663 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 14: digest the vetting we've done so that we know when 664 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 14: we do go sit down, and there's there's specific things 665 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 14: we're trying to figure out. And guess what. Some players, man, 666 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 14: they're a plus I call them marry your daughter type guys. 667 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 14: And at that point we may not even meet them. 668 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 14: And there's a strategy there. If we don't meet them, 669 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 14: then hey, uh, you and Jesse can't say, oh I 670 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 14: heard the Ramses player, right, you know, those of us 671 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 14: on this side, I get it, y'all got it. You're 672 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 14: in the content content business is cool. Interesting, those of 673 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 14: us on this side might like to fly a little 674 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 14: bit stealthier than that, you know what I mean, throw 675 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 14: a curve balls, which I can tell you this is 676 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 14: getting really hard to throw curveballs. You know. Uh, in 677 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 14: this day and time based on the cool thing, right, 678 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 14: how pop that NFL is, how many people cover you' 679 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 14: are really good at what you do? So uh, you 680 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 14: know there's also a little bit of that into it too. 681 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 12: That's great. 682 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: Well, I's I want to ask you, I've never, like 683 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: you said, I've never sat in your seat when you 684 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 5: have players that you've hit on late in the draft 685 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 5: that you've been you know, whether it's Puka Nakup or 686 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 5: it's Cooper Kopp or guys, what is the process or 687 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: the waiting like when you like them but but you 688 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: don't really know how much you want to reach for them, 689 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 5: but you don't want somebody else to snag somebody you 690 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: really like these picks that are not near the top 691 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 5: of the draft that there's so many different variables that 692 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: can happen. But you have guys probably in those rounds 693 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 5: you absolutely love and when you grab them it probably 694 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: means the world. 695 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 14: I think if they're having a year like Pookah. I'm like, holy, 696 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 14: how we receive Why did we wait then to pick him? 697 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 14: So that's the first thing that crosses your mind with that. 698 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 14: But it is interesting to y'all are in Indie and 699 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 14: there is there is a really good correlation right of 700 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 14: how you test in Indie and where you get drafted. Now, 701 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 14: sometimes that correlation doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be 702 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 14: how good a football player you are. So there are 703 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 14: times right where you could go and you know, there's 704 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 14: a receiver who maybe doesn't run a forty as fast 705 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 14: or things like that, maybe played in the Mountain West thing, 706 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 14: you know, and not a power five, and you can 707 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 14: use that strategy to uh, let's call figure out where 708 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 14: that player may fall in the draft. But in Puka's case, 709 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 14: we probably should have drafted him early. 710 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: Well less, Hey, we're gonna let you go. But one thing, 711 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: you know, I want to give you credit for. You know, 712 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: I think everybody should. You guys have nailed it with 713 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: some mid round, late round picks. That's your coaching staff, 714 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: as revolving as it is, development, the consistent development you 715 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: guys have players is something I think where the rams 716 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: have to rate among the top of the league. Well, 717 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: what your coaching staff does with some of the players 718 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: that you guys get, regardless of where you for sure them, Well. 719 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 14: It's very You're right. We got to work together symbiotically. 720 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 14: They got to have a vision for player, for that player, 721 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 14: how that player gives us an edge. They've got to 722 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 14: be really good at developing them. And also, Steven jet 723 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 14: the one thing I say that's under rate. You got 724 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 14: to have the courage to play them, the courage to 725 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 14: trust a young player, the courage to go rely on 726 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 14: them because we all know you keep score on Sundays 727 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 14: and and and you can't you just you have that. 728 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 14: You just don't want to roll anyone out there because 729 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 14: you're getting a report card every week. 730 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 4: All right, less, thank you so much. Man. We know 731 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 4: your business. Time of year. 732 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: You got a first round draft pick, you got to 733 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 3: go study some guys for let's see. 734 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 8: If you guys have let's well use it. 735 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 4: We don't know, that's right. 736 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 14: I'm will tail. 737 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 5: Coming up on the NFL report, Tom Pelisarro joins us 738 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: Steve to talk about Baker Mayfield. 739 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Where will he land? 740 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 5: Will he be in a Tampa Bay Buccaneers uniform. Talk 741 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 5: to Todd Bowles. We'll find out next with Tom p 742 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 5: That's a wrap. 743 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: For the lead block presented by Team Obile for Business. 744 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: A sport as fast as football deserves America's fastest five 745 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: G network, businesses go further with Mobile for Business. 746 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Weisch 747 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 5: with you. I'm no longer alone in Indianapolis, Steve. I 748 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 5: have NFL Network insider Tom Pellasaro his. 749 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: Show on The Insiders. I thought I did a pretty 750 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: good job. 751 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 12: We walked like ten feet this way. Now we got 752 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 12: to try to top. 753 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: And now we're going to try to top it. 754 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 5: Tom's going to top what I did on his show 755 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: with some information starting at the quarterback position. A lot 756 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: of them will throw here on the field behind us 757 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 5: in the next couple of days. How about one that 758 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 5: won't be and maybe the number one free agent possibly 759 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 5: available in Kirk Cousins. 760 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 17: Kirk Cousins is throwing on a tennis court somewhere right now. 761 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 17: Everything that I've been told is that, if anything, he 762 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 17: has ahead of schedule in his recovery from that ruptured 763 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 17: achilles tendon, he is already throwing. 764 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 12: He's hitting at the top of his drop, He's able 765 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 12: to pivot. 766 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 17: He want to do a lot of things that you 767 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 17: would hope to see, which your team that is now 768 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 17: committing to I don't know, thirty five, forty forty five, 769 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 17: maybe one million dollars per year to Kirk Cousins. Just 770 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 17: the fact that he appears to not have had any setbacks. 771 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 17: Everything sees to behead in the right direction. For a 772 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 17: guy who's gonna be thirty six before next season, that 773 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 17: is absolutely significant. I do believe, and I said this 774 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 17: on Certable Sunday, I've repeated it since, that Kirk Cousins 775 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 17: is going to have a strong market. The spike coming 776 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 17: off the injury, and at his age, there just aren't 777 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 17: a lot of what NFL gms and coaches considered to 778 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 17: be true starting caliber quarterbacks available in free agency. 779 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 12: Here you heard Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings head coach. 780 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 17: The most places do fa Menza talk about Kirk they 781 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 17: want him back, and O'Connell said, I believe the Kirk 782 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 17: wants to be back, and so we're going to work 783 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 17: to make that be the outcome here. 784 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 12: But again, there is. 785 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 17: A certain price point at which it's just going to 786 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 17: be too rich for the Vikings. Exactly where that is 787 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 17: is probably still the subject to some discussion throughout the 788 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 17: course of this process. But I will also tell you 789 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 17: Minnesota evaluated all options to add another veteran to that room, 790 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 17: a more economical one in the event that Kirk lands elsewhere, 791 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 17: which we can all go down the list of teams 792 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 17: here between Atlanta, maybe a return to. 793 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 12: Washington, Denver. 794 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 17: There's plenty of places that could be in that veteran 795 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 17: quarterback market. 796 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 5: We know that Sean Payne can move money around, so 797 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 5: I don't think dead money in the situation with Russell 798 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 5: Wilson would stop him from going after somebody like Kirk 799 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 5: Cousins will take a. 800 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: Look at that point for million dollar cap exactly. 801 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 5: And you can also look at that division, maybe the 802 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 5: Raiders Devanta Adams has talked about. Yeah, I'd like to 803 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 5: catch the balls from Kirk Cousins. There's definitely quarterback needy 804 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 5: teams out there, and we just mentioned two teams in 805 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 5: the AFC West. 806 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: Let's stay in that division. 807 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 5: Mark was out as Scantling released by the team and 808 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 5: Lugarious sneid tag situation but possibly trade situation. You mentioned 809 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 5: the cap number, but there's a lot of other numbers 810 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 5: that Brett Veach is juggling. We can kind of touch 811 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 5: on maybe a variety of them. 812 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 17: Tom Well, I think we learned a lot about Brett 813 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 17: Veach and his philosophies on team building by what happened 814 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 17: with Tyreek Hill a couple of years ago, because there 815 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 17: are plenty of gms who would have felt like they 816 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 17: were painting into the corner you're talking about that point 817 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 17: your second best player probably can argue Travis Kelcey, Chris Jones, 818 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 17: but like Tyreek's a really dynamic player, we're going to 819 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 17: trade the top weapon of our MVP quarterback and replace 820 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 17: him with a combination of Juju, Smith, Schuster and mvs 821 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 17: and maybe drafted somebody. He did it in part because 822 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 17: the way the Breadfeats looks at these things is, well, 823 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 17: I saved all this cap space now that I can 824 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 17: use to go get other players, and I got picks 825 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 17: on top of it to replenish the young working. So 826 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 17: exactly so, whether it's Chris Jones, the lugerious sneed, I 827 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 17: think that that's not to say it's going to go 828 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 17: that same direction. 829 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 12: But you're not just talking about oh man, how are 830 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 12: you going to replace him. You can't replace the Chris Jones. 831 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 12: You really can't replace the lagerious sneed. 832 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 17: But if you move on from them and you're able 833 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 17: to add in the case of Sneed picks through the 834 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 17: process or in either case a lot of cash and cap, 835 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 17: they're going to evaluate everything. When you win a couple 836 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 17: of Super Bowls after trading away a top twenty player 837 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 17: in the NFL, if anything, you are emboldened to go 838 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 17: against the grain to make. 839 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 12: Those difficult decisions. 840 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 17: Say, you know what, we got so much confidence in 841 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 17: the way that we draft, We'll go and find the 842 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 17: defensive tackle equivalent Freshie Rice and keep this thing moving forward. 843 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 14: Interesting. 844 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a real that's really interesting points. 845 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 3: But you know, you see the Chiefs, though, they're a 846 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: defensive team, and to have a situation where you have 847 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 3: two anchors of that defense possibly in play is leaving. 848 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 3: I don't see both of them leaving, but I mean 849 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: that's an interesting situation. So Tom, while we're on defense, 850 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: the art of tackling has come up with the NFL 851 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 3: Competition Committee. 852 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 4: We know later in March at the league. 853 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 3: Meetings there could be more discussion about getting the hip 854 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: drop tackle out of play. But before we discuss what 855 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: the owners possibly could be talking about, let's listen to 856 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 3: Zaire Franklin, a linebacker of the Colt NFL second leading tackler, 857 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 3: actually talk about the hip drop tackle. 858 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: It's tough. You know, I won't lie to you and 859 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: say that. You know, they're making almost impossible for us. 860 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes it feel like they don't want us to tackle 861 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: these guys. Sometimes, I mean, they're a banning us. I 862 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 2: never even heard of a hip hop hip drop tackling, 863 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: so they told me what it was. You know, I've 864 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: never gone into a tackle and thought to myself, you know, 865 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna use this technique in this moment. 866 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: I just, you know, see z Flowers and know that 867 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: he runs a four to three and understand that I 868 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: got to get him down. You know, That's kind of 869 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: how it goes. But you know, I think, you know, 870 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: for you know myself, I think it's just obviously seeing 871 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: what you hit is the biggest thing. I think when 872 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: you tackle with your eyes up and your head up, 873 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the biggest emphasis. I know 874 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: the league is trying to protect guys both from being 875 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: tackled and the tackler from them head on collisions. Obviously 876 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 2: you don't want to go for a guys head or 877 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: neck area, but you know, the speed of the game 878 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: is what it is, and sometimes you know, physical players happen. 879 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer that football is a physical sport. 880 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 2: You're meant to the physical side of the game is 881 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 2: meant to be in it, and I think to take 882 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: that away is taking away the fabric. 883 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: But what makes the game great. 884 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, that was Frankly back in November, and so Tom. 885 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 4: Of course they want to. 886 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 3: Get this hip drop tackle out because players have gotten hurt, 887 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: with the ravest Titan, Mark Andrews being the big example, 888 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 3: breaking his leg on a hip drop tackle. 889 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 8: What could the discussion reconvene. 890 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 4: I know I'm struggling here. 891 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 3: What do you think the discussion would be in March 892 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: when these owners are convene. 893 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 17: If we called it a hip hop tackle, I think 894 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 17: people would be in faithful. 895 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 12: Absolutely. 896 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 17: So there were a lot of discussions, as you mentioned, Steve, 897 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 17: here at the NFL combine, where it's always interesting because 898 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 17: this is a pretty big meeting. It's not just the 899 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 17: NFL Competition Committee that's in there discussing the rules you 900 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 17: have doctors, you have scientists, you have people involved in 901 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 17: various levels of the medical community. You have a college 902 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 17: person who's in the room as well, because there's a 903 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 17: liaison with the person in the NFL, like a sophomore 904 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 17: someone representing the nc double A, assuming that the NCAA 905 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 17: still exists by the time this rule goes into the place, 906 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 17: that's going to be trying to kind of bridge some 907 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 17: of those gaps in terms of Okay, well, here's what 908 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 17: we're seeing at our level, because they always try to 909 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 17: have the college and NFL rules for the most part 910 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 17: kind of sync up. 911 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 12: And so there's a multi layered conversation here. 912 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,479 Speaker 17: But one thing that we know is when owners want 913 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 17: something and when the commissioner wants something, usually that's going 914 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 17: to happen. And there is a strong feeling among the 915 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 17: stakeholders here the one way or another, whether you think 916 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 17: you can enforce it or not, whether you think that 917 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 17: you're making impossible to tackle people. You see the types 918 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 17: of injuries that you had on some of these plays. 919 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 17: Not all you know somewhere you know guys end up 920 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 17: escaping it. But there's you know, plays like the one 921 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 17: that hurt Mark Andrews and that's a that's an ugly 922 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 17: type of play. They say, you'll know it when you 923 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 17: see it, And I think that there are certain tackles 924 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 17: like the one on Mark Andrews where you go, gosh, 925 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 17: you don't want to see that. But there's the same 926 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 17: game Lamar Jackson got hit by the same player at. 927 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 12: The sideline Logan Wilson, I believe it was. 928 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 17: It's a similar type of tackle, but it's not with 929 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 17: as much force and Lamar ends up which just kind of, 930 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 17: you know, turned his ankle a little bit, but he 931 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 17: was okay. 932 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 12: So are you gonna call it there? Are you only 933 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 12: going to call the Mark and Andrew stell one. 934 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 17: You don't want to start having it be like an 935 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 17: old what was the video game of Nintendo Blades the 936 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 17: Steel where the guy the guy who lost the Remember 937 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 17: they have the fighting and then the guy, the guy 938 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 17: who lost the fight was the only one who went 939 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 17: to the penalty box. You don't want to have it 940 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 17: be okay, well because the guy got injured. Now it's 941 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 17: a violation. You need to be able to enforce it 942 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 17: consistently across everything, and we already know NFL officials are 943 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 17: so inundated with so many new rules and so many 944 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 17: different things they're scrutinized. You're adding one more thing to 945 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 17: their plate. But again, the challenge in this is writing 946 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 17: the rule where it can be clearly enforced. But the 947 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 17: NFL and the owners have made pretty clear the directored 948 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 17: is right the rule. We don't want to see it. 949 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 17: It would be a surprise nothing done. It would be 950 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 17: a surprise if they don't find a way to outlaw. 951 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 8: The Hey hey, Tom, real quick follow you, real quick follow. 952 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 3: You talked about the people in the room, scientists, college 953 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: students whatever, NCAA people whatever. 954 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 8: Are there any football players in that room? 955 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: Are there any defensive players in that room who could 956 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: explain their part of things. 957 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 17: There are consultations all the time Steve too, with players, 958 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 17: former players, position coaches. There are surveys that are done 959 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 17: with all the position coaches regarding different techniques that they're 960 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 17: seeing and if there's any injury data and trying to 961 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 17: mesh that up to so they stay on top of 962 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 17: the trends within the league. Which also brings us to 963 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 17: the kickoff conversation, because that's been a huge part of 964 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 17: this as well. Again, they don't necessarily have a clear pathway, 965 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 17: right now in terms of like, what is that going 966 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 17: to look like, what's the new kickoff play? What the 967 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 17: XFL was doing where they set up Basically, I think 968 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 17: it's one at the twenty five and one at the thirty. 969 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 17: That's where the offensive defense on the return team knows. 970 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 17: They saw that their rate of concussion went down, yet 971 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 17: they saw it a high percentage of kickoffs return as 972 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 17: opposed the NFL last season had a very low rate. 973 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 17: Every special teams coach going back a decade when they 974 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 17: started looking at this, would say, they're just they're going 975 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 17: to ruin the play. 976 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 12: It has to say, and you have to keep the 977 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 12: foot in the game. Rdy Nell's also said the same thing. 978 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 12: We wanted to be in the game. 979 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 17: Well, last year you went so far the other direction 980 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 17: with the fair catch thing that there were virtually no returns. 981 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 17: They don't want to have a non competitive play in 982 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 17: the game. That's why we now have thirty eight yard 983 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 17: extra point attempts instead of what it used to be 984 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 17: the chip shot. 985 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 12: From right shots right, I can hit that. 986 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 17: You can't necessarily hit it as high ray from ways back, 987 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 17: and that's jobs every this was a non competitive play. 988 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: I've made a kick. 989 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 12: You have to go back a little way. 990 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 17: I don't think I want to do it again here. 991 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: That was our teams high school kicker. No big deal. 992 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 5: But listen, you're right because that essence, you could almost 993 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,439 Speaker 5: evaluate players differently at this combine Steve. If that play 994 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 5: is not in the games a return, specials will be 995 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 5: looked at differently and where they land in the draft. 996 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 12: That's definitely been part of it. 997 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 17: If your primary values on kick returns you don't have 998 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 17: it now, you know, maybe it's a little bit different. 999 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 17: You continue to have this de emphasis on special teams 1000 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 17: in general, but we. 1001 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 12: Still see special teams is a massive part of the game. 1002 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 17: When one of the players that the Super Bowl turns 1003 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 17: on is just a weird bouncing kick and then turns 1004 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 17: into something anything in the in the NC Championship game. 1005 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 17: It's a lot of things that happen within the course 1006 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 17: of football. What you don't want to have as a 1007 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 17: play that people tune out for exactly think about that? 1008 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 12: What is it ultimately about? What is every decision about? 1009 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 17: Yes, health and safety is a big part all the 1010 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 17: conversation from the players union side, because they're in on 1011 00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 17: these meetings too. 1012 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 12: It's a huge part the conversation. 1013 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 17: What you don't want to have though, is oh, I've 1014 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 17: got five minutes to walk away from this game right now, 1015 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 17: aroom around, not sticking around for the Yeah, you don't 1016 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 17: want to have any restroom plays that that is a 1017 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 17: key part of everything that they're trying to do as well. 1018 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,959 Speaker 5: We got to ask him about Baker Mayfield. We got 1019 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 5: to ask him about Baker Mayfield. He's probably on a 1020 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 5: lot of people's list. We mentioned Kirk Cousins, the next 1021 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 5: free agent quarterback down where do things stand with Baker? 1022 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 17: Well, that's gonna be one of the mysteries where that 1023 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 17: number lands as well. It's certainly going to be well 1024 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 17: noise for five million dollar base that he got last season. 1025 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 17: It really comes down to is there another team that's 1026 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 17: going to become heavily involved and we'll start having more answers. 1027 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 17: Is the market shakes out? You're beginning with some of 1028 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 17: the meetings that happened at this time. And of course 1029 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 17: teams right now are only allowed to beat with agents 1030 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 17: for their own free agents. 1031 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 12: Could some other people trying to find out some information? 1032 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 17: I suppose that might happen occasionally, you know, Todd Bowles yesterday, 1033 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 17: I talked to him off camera when he was waiting 1034 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 17: to talk with Peter Schrager, and I know he's optimistic 1035 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 17: about the directions going with Baker. Quite frankly, from Baker's perspective, 1036 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 17: you've been on the Browns, the Panthers, the Rams and 1037 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 17: the Bucks in the past two years. Maybe just settle 1038 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 17: someplace for a year. They hired somebody that he worked 1039 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 17: with in Liam Cohen, but the Falcons also hired Zach Robinson, 1040 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 17: and they hired Rahe Morris, and those guys are with 1041 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 17: Baker with the Rams. If there's one dark horse that 1042 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 17: might emerge for Baker Mayfield, I would think Atlanta is it. 1043 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 17: But Atlanta's gotten a lot of different options, including holding 1044 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 17: the number eight overall pick. Where Terry Fanteau told me 1045 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 17: yesterday when I asked him, is trading up a possibility 1046 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 17: because he brought it up and he said absolutely, that's 1047 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 17: so it was traded down. 1048 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1049 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 3: Hey, you know, Terry shoots a straight He doesn't leave 1050 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: any ambi ambiguity when he's when he's giving you an 1051 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: answer at all. Hey, Tom p grazed up brother, You 1052 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 3: and James. We want to get bathroom plays into the 1053 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 3: vernacular now. 1054 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 4: Bathroom break plays. 1055 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 12: In the NFL Restrooms Room Classroom. 1056 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: Restrooms is a classy show. 1057 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 4: There we Go, Restroom. 1058 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate you if you will. 1059 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 4: There we Go. 1060 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 3: When we come back on the NFL Report, some guys 1061 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 3: are showing up, but they're not participating. What other guys 1062 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 3: are going to be doing the full drills here at 1063 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 3: the NFL combine. What is the benefit of being an indie. 1064 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 4: We're going to talk. 1065 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 8: About that next on the NFL Report. 1066 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 3: You're listening to the NFL Report podcast, but you can 1067 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 3: watch me, Steve Weiitch and my co host James Palmer 1068 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 3: on the NFL Report at seven fifteen Eastern time on 1069 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 3: Mondays and Thursdays on the NFL app and free streaming 1070 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: platforms on the NFL channel on Roku two b Peacock, 1071 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 3: Pluto TV, and other. 1072 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 4: Free streaming apps. 1073 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,959 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch 1074 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 5: with you as he closed this thing out. 1075 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: Steve, how fascinating was this show? 1076 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 5: Hearing the approach from less sneed so different than the 1077 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 5: approach from Andy Reid and how they value certain. 1078 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: Aspects of this combine. 1079 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 5: It makes you think how certain prospects also can benefit. 1080 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 1: From being here throwing. Remember CJ. 1081 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 5: Stroud and Anthony Richardson, all those coaches behind them on 1082 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 5: this field behind me had a chain to see them 1083 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 5: up close the ball out of their hand. Both of 1084 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 5: their stocks went up in a lot of teams minds 1085 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 5: when they had a chance to stand there evaluate them 1086 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 5: right up there, up close and personal. But there's other 1087 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 5: guys that have their own particular situations that are a 1088 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 5: little bit different where maybe not performing is the best 1089 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 5: case scenario for them. 1090 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, like Marvin Harrison Junior, the Ohio state wide receiver. 1091 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 8: He didn't even show up. 1092 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: He's like going to class and doing everything like that. 1093 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 3: But most people will say that's not gonna affect. 1094 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: You leave the campus at Ohio State, Steve. 1095 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 4: There you go. I mean, I know you were on 1096 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 4: the seven year plan there. 1097 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 3: JP, But I mean, look, he's somebody you know. The 1098 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 3: character is there, right, The character is there. The bloodlines 1099 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 3: are there from his father. So again, it doesn't always 1100 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 3: help or hurt people to be there or not be there. 1101 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is going to be a trend, JP, 1102 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: but Marvin Harrison's case and maybe some others, it is 1103 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 3: not going to hurt them. 1104 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 8: Well, great show. Jp make sure for those of you. 1105 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 3: Listening on the podcast to watch us on Mondays and 1106 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: Thursdays on ROKN TB on All Again This is All 1107 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 3: a podcast number seven pm Eastertime, Mondays and Wednesdays. 1108 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 8: Jp enjoined the Oceanaire. Make sure to get. 1109 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 4: The Hall of it and we are 1110 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 12: Done.