Speaker 1: So I want to talk about the Jill Zarin experience,
Speaker 1: which was really interesting, and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: it and as entertains to the state of reality television.
Speaker 1: So from what I'm hearing, Crappy Lake and I love Sonya,
Speaker 1: I want to go on record saying I love Sonya.
Speaker 1: Crappy Lake is getting very, very crappy ratings. Like I
Speaker 1: think the last episode was fifty thousand people watching it,
Speaker 1: you know, on TV. Now they get other people with
Speaker 1: streaming and things like that, but like it's abysmal so
Speaker 1: compared to Yeah, it's just abysmal. And the state of
Speaker 1: reality TV has changed too. And while Bravo's doing a
Speaker 1: big spin factory on all the ratings, Real Housewives of
Speaker 1: New York also the women seem lovely. I am rooting
Speaker 1: for them. They I like the woman she's a real
Speaker 1: estate agent. SI seems cool. Like they're out there fighting
Speaker 1: the fight. Jennas like sort of carrying the press and everything,
Speaker 1: and it's great. There's a change that's gone on in
Speaker 1: reality television. Anyway, the show on Bravo for the first
Speaker 1: episode got like a million viewers, I think, and the
Speaker 1: second one got seven hundred. And it will only go
Speaker 1: down because that's just how it happens. And if anyone
Speaker 1: cares about the finale or something crazy happens, people will
Speaker 1: tune in again for the finale. TV has changed. When
Speaker 1: I was there at reality television's peak, it was at
Speaker 1: over three million viewers during like Scary Island, I think,
Speaker 1: and during like is It About Tom and It when
Speaker 1: I was not there, it was like between one point
Speaker 1: four and one point six. So ratings, you know, really
Speaker 1: really can ebb and flow, and the advertisers really care
Speaker 1: about the demo the specific group of women within that rating,
Speaker 1: and it's been abysmo lately, and so I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the fact that it costs millionllions of dollars. I think
Speaker 1: they had one hundred thousand dollars premiere at the Rainbow
Speaker 1: Room and Media and the Refresh, and you know, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: and Sonya and Lawan did a photo shoot and you
Speaker 1: see glossy pictures and they go on a promo tour
Speaker 1: and Bravo has to pay for their cars and their
Speaker 1: glam and they're gonna fight for money for outfits, and
Speaker 1: you know, they send a whole big crew to wherever
Speaker 1: Crappy Lake is and everybody's staying in hotels and you
Speaker 1: see all the cameras, and I just saw Eugene Levy
Speaker 1: shooting a travel show and it was like forty people
Speaker 1: in crew and it's just bulky. And Jill and I
Speaker 1: go on my podcast and shoot it effectively, mostly on
Speaker 1: an iPhone, and we get three hundred thousand viewers. So
Speaker 1: we're getting almost half the viewers that tuned into Housewives
Speaker 1: on Bravo. With me calling her two days before her
Speaker 1: showing up at my house and you know, my fucking
Speaker 1: muppet show shooting it and also her and I. You know,
Speaker 1: that has gotten half the views of what Housewives episodes get.
Speaker 1: It costs us probably five grand to make. So think
Speaker 1: about the millions of dollars that it costs an advertising
Speaker 1: and makeup and photo shoots and one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: rainbow room party and all of that to shoot those
Speaker 1: shows that are bulky to wait months to get that
Speaker 1: content out because they have to produce it and edit
Speaker 1: it and pay people in LA and get a time slot,
Speaker 1: and the powers at b and the people on the
Speaker 1: show have to ask Bravo what time they get to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, and they have to pay the
Speaker 1: cast a paltry salary, but still it's just a bulky model.
Speaker 1: And then Jill and I do just me sitting doing
Speaker 1: the podcast. So I'm airing the podcast, which I as
Speaker 1: a podcast personality, own this podcast and make you know,
Speaker 1: seven figures doing a podcast. So I'm already making money
Speaker 1: on it. And then for fun, I decided to just
Speaker 1: shoot it and put it on YouTube, and in one
Speaker 1: day it's one hundred thousand years. It's double the ratings
Speaker 1: of Crappy Lake, double the people watched it. I mean,
Speaker 1: just fucking that's the way it is. Sorry, And on TikTok,
Speaker 1: I could eat shellfish in a bag, literally eating shellfish
Speaker 1: in a bag, a grab bag of corn and shellfish,
Speaker 1: and it's international news and the Post is writing about it,
Speaker 1: which costs me fifty five dollars for the place that
Speaker 1: had a grab bag of seafood and my iPhone and
Speaker 1: over a million people watch that, so it's crazy, and
Speaker 1: page six writes about it. So the world is changing
Speaker 1: in the world of entertainment and content is changing and
Speaker 1: it's giving, it's making room for the regular person, the
Speaker 1: small person. And Jill Zarren wants to come on again.
Speaker 1: She wants to come on again, and she knows she
Speaker 1: made no money, and then I made no money on
Speaker 1: the YouTube. I made no money. We've actually paid, But
Speaker 1: who cares. She wants to express herself. Maybe she wants
Speaker 1: to talk about her carpets, her rugs, her candles. Maybe
Speaker 1: she wants to just talk to me. Maybe she just
Speaker 1: wants to be free, not today, talk about something that
Speaker 1: in four months gets to air, and she's got to
Speaker 1: ask mission and feel like a degraded person who's a
Speaker 1: grown ass woman who's made her own money, so to
Speaker 1: get paid to fucking be dragged and accused and criticized
Speaker 1: and being some cesspool with women trashing other women, like
Speaker 1: for what for fucking fifty thousand people to watch Crappy
Speaker 1: Lake or seven hundred thousand people to watch the Housewives?
Speaker 1: And yes, I know the bravosphiebic, but that doesn't count
Speaker 1: the downloads and the streamers and the puppet shows and
Speaker 1: the monkeys and whatever. Like it's a spin. I could
Speaker 1: spin that too. Mine doesn't count the impressions on page
Speaker 1: six and the fucking monkeys and the donkeys and the
Speaker 1: lions and the tigers and the bears. Oh my, but
Speaker 1: straight up media viewers. We're getting way more than Crappy
Speaker 1: Lake and if you include social media, way more than
Speaker 1: housewives to fucking have you know, a muppet puppet show.
Speaker 1: So the world is changing and so is entertainment, and
Speaker 1: the dinosaurs are walking the earth, and for once, I'm
Speaker 1: doing something. In twenty twenty three, Heather Dubro bought a
Speaker 1: house in la I think I knew that already. I
Speaker 1: think they were living in a condo, but now they
Speaker 1: bought a big house. Yes, she'll move over to Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: That would be great for her. She'd be a good
Speaker 1: cast member there. That's where she belongs. She's come up.
Speaker 1: She's got more money than any of them, to be honest,
Speaker 1: most of them are fronting and stunting. She's got real cash.
Speaker 1: Some of them do, some of them don't. But she's
Speaker 1: you know the name of the game. There is cash
Speaker 1: and Chanel and cash app Burzelle. So Heather will be great.
Speaker 1: You know, she's got very interesting stories with her children
Speaker 1: and their gender and sexuality. And she's married to a
Speaker 1: plastic surgeon and they're still together and they're a good couple.
Speaker 1: And I would just say to them, why the fuck
Speaker 1: you have money. Why are you doing this? I looked
Speaker 1: at her, I met, I saw her. But listen, people
Speaker 1: love the fame and the light. And he wants to
Speaker 1: keep making money and keep doing plastic surgery and he's
Speaker 1: got his own show. And you know, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: it's it's the Mouricio Kyle program where the both members
Speaker 1: want the fame. Both members of both of these couples
Speaker 1: want the fame bad. Okay, both members want it bad.
Speaker 1: Both members want the money bad, and both members want
Speaker 1: the relevance and what the fame brings into their businesses.
Speaker 1: And there is no shade to that. It's just what
Speaker 1: it is. So both of them, whether it's Kyle and
Speaker 1: Mauricio or Heather or To and Terry, they're a team
Speaker 1: that come in and they want to grab the fucking
Speaker 1: bag and try to maintain a relationship and a family
Speaker 1: and stay together. And who's to say that relationships wouldn't
Speaker 1: suffer off reality TV. And if they're true partners and
Speaker 1: if they truly know, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Speaker 1: We're going in to grab the bag, you know, stay tight.
Speaker 1: I just find it very hard. I think marriage is hard.
Speaker 1: I think relationships are hard. I think LA makes it harder.
Speaker 1: I think it's a very superficial place. I think it's
Speaker 1: a very competitive place. I think it's a very money hungry,
Speaker 1: keeping up with the Joneses kind of place. I do
Speaker 1: not think it's a private place. I think people hunt
Speaker 1: for paparazzi. People like to be relevant, people want the light.
Speaker 1: I think people compete with their spouses. I think there
Speaker 1: can only be one peacock in a relationship. I think
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous game when everybody's famous and on television
Speaker 1: and in the media. I just think it's dangerous. But
Speaker 1: there's always a price. So what's the price if you're
Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of money and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: leave or you're gonna take some bruises, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: matter to you, you know. And once people get a
Speaker 1: taste of fame, they don't want to walk away from it.
Speaker 1: Once they get the hit, the vein is popping and
Speaker 1: they want it. And in these cases, if one party
Speaker 1: maybe wants to leave and the other one doesn't, then
Speaker 1: the one party might be like, well, fine, if you're
Speaker 1: doing it, I'm doing it. I know that Kyle Paris
Speaker 1: had the fame first, then you know, Kim Richards had
Speaker 1: the fame first, then came Paris, then came Kyle. And
Speaker 1: I know that Mauricio wanted the fame and the relevance
Speaker 1: for his business badly and for a long time he
Speaker 1: wanted it. And I also know just from being a
Speaker 1: person and not divulging anything, I also know that that's
Speaker 1: hard and daring for the main famous person. So Kyle's
Speaker 1: the famous person. But in order to be successful on
Speaker 1: the house was she needed to show her spouse and
Speaker 1: really push Mauricio and have everybody think that he's the
Speaker 1: hottest house husband, and all these things that have got
Speaker 1: to be annoying. That would be annoying, And then the
Speaker 1: infidelity rumors must be annoying. Then the door eat rumors
Speaker 1: must be annoying. Getting robbed must be traumatic and challenging.
Speaker 1: But she became not as famous as Paris, obviously, but
Speaker 1: she became famous in her own right and then came
Speaker 1: in Kathy. But Mauricio has wanted his turn. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be the sidekick, the plus one. He wanted
Speaker 1: his own thing, and he loves pushing his business, and
Speaker 1: without Kyle, he wouldn't be able to push his business
Speaker 1: the way that he has, and she pushed it to
Speaker 1: so then he wants the fame and irrelevance too. He's
Speaker 1: a hot stepper in LA. He wants to further push
Speaker 1: his business wear the agency hats and clothing. So he
Speaker 1: wants to further push his business. So he really pushed
Speaker 1: for his show selling Beverly Hills or whatever he's selling.
Speaker 1: And she can't really be on it because she's a
Speaker 1: Bravo talent, but I'm sure she'll push that in her
Speaker 1: contract cause he needs her to be on too, and
Speaker 1: so does her network. So they've got a dual income,
Speaker 1: dual fame program, dual business fit program going in that household.
Speaker 1: The realm for them is big and it does not
Speaker 1: come without a price. So that's what Terry and Heather
Speaker 1: have been trying to do. He has his own show,
Speaker 1: he's got his own program, and one feeds the other.
Speaker 1: So don't hate the player, hate the game.