Speaker 1: Smell off now, lady, Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia mea podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain
Speaker 2: Time on October third, and we're live from Meet Eater
Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer new Arth,
Speaker 2: joined today by Ryan Callahan and birthday boy Randall Williams.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, rand Thank you, thank you. Is it impolite
Speaker 2: to ask how old you are?
Speaker 3: Not at all? I'm thirty eight years old today, thirty
Speaker 3: eight Now it is a button. Don't look at day
Speaker 3: over sixty three?
Speaker 2: What well? You got big plans for your birthday today?
Speaker 2: Besides Media Radio Live.
Speaker 3: Going out to dinner. And I was surprised this morning
Speaker 3: with a very special gift from my wife, Sydney. It's
Speaker 3: an annual pass to the Grizzly Encounter. Yeah, so on
Speaker 3: my way back and forth to work, I can stop
Speaker 3: in and visit with the.
Speaker 2: Is that not kind of a sad place? No, it's
Speaker 2: a happy place.
Speaker 3: I think it's a happy place. You get real close
Speaker 3: to bears and they get to eat a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff in front of you. That's a good all sorts
Speaker 3: of tasty fruits. Yeah, you plant.
Speaker 1: You're doing anything to embrace creeping into real middle age? Randall, No,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I I think it'll come as a surprise. At often
Speaker 3: we receive lots of emails here expressing shock that I
Speaker 3: am not an old man. So I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: Perhaps I was unaware of this, but perhaps I'm only
Speaker 3: growing into the personality that I project.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you're seven years out from a recommended colonoscopy.
Speaker 1: That's something to think about.
Speaker 2: He has thought about it. Yeah, yeah, you got plans
Speaker 2: for a birthday lunch today. I don't Can we take
Speaker 2: you out as that?
Speaker 3: I'd love that.
Speaker 2: Okay, you think about where we're going. You figure that
Speaker 2: out By the end of the show.
Speaker 3: Fantastic gang.
Speaker 2: It's eleven oh two mountain time, so we're gonna be
Speaker 2: hungry after this.
Speaker 3: I'm starve.
Speaker 2: Now. On today's show, we'll interview doctor Bronson Strickland from
Speaker 2: Mississippi State University about the science of whitetail buckbeds. Then
Speaker 2: we'll review the two thousand and one comedy Escanaba Into
Speaker 2: Moonlight for Meat Eater Movie Club, followed by one minute
Speaker 2: fishing with Giannis Putellis in Louisiana. Then Corinn will educate
Speaker 2: us about whitetail monogamy or the lack thereof. And finally
Speaker 2: we'll interview Ryan Berman about a black bear attack that
Speaker 2: ended when his twelve year old shot the bear. But first,
Speaker 2: it's Whitetail Week and our best white tail content and
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Speaker 2: white Tail Week, we wanted to give away our favorite
Speaker 2: piece of gear from the First Light Whitetail line, which
Speaker 2: is the Core Jacket. The Core jacket is perfect to
Speaker 2: wear from mid season to late season. It's quiet, win proof,
Speaker 2: and lightweight, perfect for deer hunters across North America. So
Speaker 2: here's how we're going to give this thing away. We
Speaker 2: are doing a caption contest for the live viewers and
Speaker 2: the live viewers only. Phil is going to pull up
Speaker 2: a photo right now and people are going to write
Speaker 2: their funniest captions in the chat. Then at the end
Speaker 2: of the show, Phil will pick the best ones to
Speaker 2: read and from that group, we'll select our favorite to
Speaker 2: receive that free First Light Core Jacket. There is the
Speaker 2: picture that Phil has now put up on the screen.
Speaker 2: Cal you are in that photo. Tell us what's going
Speaker 2: on there?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 1: I was just so young, naive, so young, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: whole world ahead of me.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Fancer, was this your hiring ritual?
Speaker 1: Ah? This is uh sika deer out there in the
Speaker 1: eastern shore of Maryland. So super super awesome public land hunting.
Speaker 1: Actually we were on Nate your conservancy chunk out there,
Speaker 1: but super tasty deer, crazy tender something about running through
Speaker 1: the marshes, very very awesome. And Steve as he does,
Speaker 1: he's like, I've just always wanted to hit somebody with
Speaker 1: a chunk of meat. It's like, because you know, just
Speaker 1: think of the sound or something along those lines.
Speaker 2: Okay, that would be satisfying.
Speaker 3: So this wasn't posed then, this was in fact still
Speaker 3: from an action sequence.
Speaker 1: Right, and in typical Steve fashion, right, he does this
Speaker 1: stuff while everyone else is actually doing the work, and
Speaker 1: he's like, but hold on, I want everybody to stop
Speaker 1: doing the work that I'm not participating in to run
Speaker 1: through this fantastical little mind voyage.
Speaker 2: He has, like going strike cow with the hind quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you can see my hands are still
Speaker 1: a little bloody. Still got things to do.
Speaker 2: Was this a hind quarter or a front quarter here
Speaker 2: that looks like a shold, but they're just unbelievably tiny
Speaker 2: little creatures.
Speaker 1: They're really like I took out a hind a dough
Speaker 1: female by literally putting a hoof in between my fingers,
Speaker 1: so like a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the caption contest photo is from like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: It is Steve striking cal across the face with the
Speaker 2: front quarter of a skinned Sika deer. So write in
Speaker 2: your best captions. At the end of the show, Phil
Speaker 2: is going to read some of them, and then our
Speaker 2: favorite one is going to get that first light core jacket.
Speaker 5: You guys are Yeah, we need to put the right
Speaker 5: guys in the chest. I'm best here, but you guys
Speaker 5: are doing incredible so far. Some of them are not
Speaker 5: safe for work. You can keep saying those ones in.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to pick them.
Speaker 1: But and we're at work, we need to point out
Speaker 1: the lack of defensive posture on my side too.
Speaker 3: I think happy, you look you resigned to you.
Speaker 1: You get the first one.
Speaker 2: So take join us for the caption contest. This is
Speaker 2: a little treat just for the live viewers now, in
Speaker 2: honor of white Tail Week, State Farm just released their
Speaker 2: annual deer collision research, so I thought we should talk
Speaker 2: about it. West Virginia is yet again the risky estate
Speaker 2: for deer vehicle collisions. Drivers there have a one in
Speaker 2: forty chance of hitting a white tail with their car.
Speaker 2: The most deer vehicle collisions happen October to December, and
Speaker 2: on average, Americans have a one in one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty eight chance of hitting a deer this year. Have
Speaker 2: you boys ever hit a hit a deer or an
Speaker 2: elk or anything with your car?
Speaker 3: I yeah, I was. I'd been hunting down on the
Speaker 3: Madison this is probably ten or twelve years ago, and
Speaker 3: shot a little four ky on an extremely cold day,
Speaker 3: and I put it in the back of my hont
Speaker 3: A Pilot and I was driving on I ninety past
Speaker 3: Whitehall and a real stud of a buck stepped out,
Speaker 3: So you floored it? Well, I did my best to
Speaker 3: avoid it and kind of clipped the front quarter panel,
Speaker 3: knocked off my side mirror, and then rolled down the
Speaker 3: side of the vehicle, knocking out all the glass all
Speaker 3: the way down. I spent a lot of time looking
Speaker 3: for that deer. Never found it.
Speaker 2: Really yep, yep, how stud of a buck.
Speaker 3: You think he was, I mean not. You know, for me,
Speaker 3: it would have been the biggest deer I'd ever killed. Well,
Speaker 3: it probably still is the biggest tear I've ever killed.
Speaker 3: But didn't recover it, and it.
Speaker 2: Certainly dead though. You think he wandered off and died somewhere.
Speaker 3: I was going really fast, okay, and I didn't have
Speaker 3: time to apply the brakes. Yeah, but it came right
Speaker 3: out of the median, just looking for a dough.
Speaker 1: Yea smashed smashed it. So yeah, three deer, three different vehicles,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three Chevy celebrity. And I didn't hit this deer.
Speaker 1: He hit me. But right next to Randall's old house
Speaker 1: van Buren Street exit missoula mule deer came smoking it
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. There used to be no fences between
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods and the interstate there. And yeah, he'd like
Speaker 1: t boned perfectly dead center, t boned my little brown
Speaker 1: Grandma car. And then uh yeah, smashed the front right
Speaker 1: panel on my two thousand and what it was it
Speaker 1: ninety three Toyota Tacoma. And then in my Chevy, I
Speaker 1: whacked a dough in Idaho coming across the desert mule
Speaker 1: deer dough felt real bad.
Speaker 2: I've now hit two deer with pickups in both times.
Speaker 2: One time he was on my way to go hunting
Speaker 2: in the morning, the other time he was on my
Speaker 2: way home from hunting in the evening.
Speaker 3: So there's something very poetic prime rut that there's science there.
Speaker 2: Moving on, Joining us on the line first is doctor
Speaker 2: Bronson Strickland from Mississippi State University. This winter, his team
Speaker 2: wrapped up a study on whitetail buckbeds that busted a
Speaker 2: lot of myths about whitetail behavior. Doctor Strickland. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Hello, glad to be here.
Speaker 6: Thanks so much for the opportunity.
Speaker 2: First off, tell us how the study was conducted and
Speaker 2: what you were hoping to learn.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it really began the overarching question from our
Speaker 6: state wildlife agency, the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks,
Speaker 6: was getting feedback from hunters wanting to know where the
Speaker 6: bucks are going during hunting season. And so we've seen
Speaker 6: a buck all summer, we've got photos of a buck,
Speaker 6: and then where does it go? And so that led
Speaker 6: us to work with the state agency and attach a
Speaker 6: bunch of GPS callers to about sixty different bucks over
Speaker 6: two years, and that's where it began. The overall purpose
Speaker 6: of the study too, was to look at what is
Speaker 6: the impact of hunting pressure throughout the year, and how
Speaker 6: are buck's going to change their behavior and might we
Speaker 6: find any solutions there? So that was really the big
Speaker 6: picture question that we began with, and then that moved
Speaker 6: into a lot of other questions and and one of
Speaker 6: those was regarding buck betting.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, what do we learn about buck beds from
Speaker 2: that study?
Speaker 6: Well, I am going to share some information with you
Speaker 6: now to answer that question.
Speaker 5: Let's see, Doctor Strickland's got some slides he's going to
Speaker 5: present for us right now. He's just going to pull
Speaker 5: those up really quick.
Speaker 6: There we go, all right, okay, So first of all,
Speaker 6: we wanted to how do we define what a betting
Speaker 6: site is. So remember, we've got all of these bucks
Speaker 6: have a GPS collar on them, and we're getting a
Speaker 6: location from them every fifteen minutes, and so this data
Speaker 6: set is so large. Keep in mind this you can't
Speaker 6: really do this by hand. You have to do it
Speaker 6: with computer code. And so we went in to the
Speaker 6: data set and every time we had four or more
Speaker 6: consecutive points that did not have more than a twenty
Speaker 6: yard radius with their span. And so remember even with
Speaker 6: the GPS caller, the points are not exactly precise. There's
Speaker 6: some error in those locations, but we define that as
Speaker 6: twenty yards. So every time we got four consecutive points
Speaker 6: or an hour's worth of points less than twenty yards,
Speaker 6: we concluded that that was a bedsite. And of course
Speaker 6: we excluded if deer were out in a food plot
Speaker 6: at night or an agricultural field at night, we excluded those.
Speaker 6: So we kept this in our forested cover. Next, we
Speaker 6: wanted to look at not just the bed site, but
Speaker 6: a general area that they may be. So this would
Speaker 6: be one or more betting sites that are distinctly different,
Speaker 6: and so you could have several betting sites within one
Speaker 6: hundred yard radius that would be a betting area. And
Speaker 6: then we calculated all of the betting sites and all
Speaker 6: of the betting areas throughout two different hunting seasons. And
Speaker 6: then we wanted to get some insight on what are
Speaker 6: the impacts for strategies for hunting. What we found out
Speaker 6: is that contrary to a lot of beliefs, is that
Speaker 6: there is a tremendous amount of diversity in the number
Speaker 6: of beds that they're using throughout the hunting season. Now,
Speaker 6: if we just look at this on a daily scale,
Speaker 6: hunting season for US is October first to January thirty first.
Speaker 6: On the average, a buck is gonna bed four times
Speaker 6: a day. Some of those are going to be during
Speaker 6: daylight hours. Two of those bets are going to be
Speaker 6: at night. But then when we get close to the
Speaker 6: hunting season, and if we break the rut out into
Speaker 6: two week intervals fourteen day intervals, and we go from
Speaker 6: the pre rut two week interval to the early rut,
Speaker 6: the peak of the rut, late rut, and post rut,
Speaker 6: we see that these betting sites number around fifty fifty
Speaker 6: different betting sites per buck during this two week period.
Speaker 6: So it is a very very different from what we've
Speaker 6: always thought that the buck is just going to use
Speaker 6: one or two three places on the landscape, which, of course,
Speaker 6: from a hunting perspective is great. If we if they
Speaker 6: only have a couple places on the landscape they're betting,
Speaker 6: that gives us the advantage on setting up on them
Speaker 6: in the afternoon.
Speaker 2: So the takeaway then would be that hunters you know,
Speaker 2: should think of betting areas as a diverse group of
Speaker 2: sites instead of just one little bedroom where a buck beds.
Speaker 2: But what does this mean for land managers as well?
Speaker 2: If somebody has a piece of property and they're thinking
Speaker 2: about how they can make this more whitetail friendly. Did
Speaker 2: your study tell you anything about that?
Speaker 6: Well, well it did, and the take home message for that,
Speaker 6: I would say would be proactive, meaning that if you're
Speaker 6: in a landscape like we're at where there is a
Speaker 6: lot of cover distributed all over the landscape. The landscape
Speaker 6: we're out here is about fifty percent agriculture fifty percent forested.
Speaker 6: So if there is a way that you can go
Speaker 6: in as a hundred manager and proactively manage the habitat
Speaker 6: to have a better betting area for deer, we can
Speaker 6: potentially drive them to those areas. And so again being
Speaker 6: proactive about habitat management so where we can steer deer
Speaker 6: to bed more often than that could put the advantage
Speaker 6: in for the hunter and for the land manager.
Speaker 2: That was the betting behavior pretty consistent across the test group,
Speaker 2: or where there's some extreme outliers.
Speaker 6: There were some extreme outliers. Let me show you here
Speaker 6: what we call fidelity during the hunting season. So this
Speaker 6: is just a different way of looking at the same data.
Speaker 6: If we look at a betting area and how often
Speaker 6: they were visited throughout the year, fifty percent of betting
Speaker 6: areas were visited one time, one and done. The other
Speaker 6: end of the continuum is that we have very rarely
Speaker 6: some sites and it's less than three percent of them
Speaker 6: are visited more than two hundred times throughout the hunting season.
Speaker 6: So it's not something you can rely on. You're going
Speaker 6: to have to use trail camera data observations like that
Speaker 6: to try to figure out what are these very very
Speaker 6: few places where bucks are going to visit more often.
Speaker 6: If you want to see real world how this looks,
Speaker 6: check out this video that's over a two week period.
Speaker 6: This is a three year old buy. This is the
Speaker 6: two weeks prior to the peak of the rut. The
Speaker 6: area that you're looking there is roughly a square mile
Speaker 6: about six hundred acres, and so when you look at that,
Speaker 6: try to imagine how am I going to determine where
Speaker 6: he's betted and how am I going to set up
Speaker 6: on him? And in my opinion, in this landscape for
Speaker 6: this particular deer. That's virtually impossible. And so when we
Speaker 6: look at that data again, those blue dots there are
Speaker 6: all the betting sites over that two week period. All
Speaker 6: the red dots there are the betting areas, and you
Speaker 6: can see that that is spread out over a six
Speaker 6: hundred acre area over two weeks. So it's going to
Speaker 6: be very, very difficult to zero in exactly where he's at.
Speaker 2: If you're watching this on YouTube, you'll get to see
Speaker 2: some real data on how these bucks use this landscape.
Speaker 2: Last question here, you were doing this study in a
Speaker 2: place that was fifty percent timber fifty percent egg. How
Speaker 2: do you think this would apply to hunters if you're
Speaker 2: in the New England area and you hunt a place
Speaker 2: it's ninety five percent timber, or if you're in Iowa
Speaker 2: and you hunt a place that's that's ten percent timber.
Speaker 2: How do you think this study applies to those hunters.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're right in the middle. I think
Speaker 6: if you were in the New England area, you're going
Speaker 6: to see even more different betting areas and betting sites.
Speaker 6: And of course if you're in a cover restricted environment
Speaker 6: like Iowa or the Midwest, you would see greater fidelity
Speaker 6: to some of these sites because there's not as many
Speaker 6: options on the landscape. So I think you just have
Speaker 6: to look at what is available, do your homework with
Speaker 6: trail cameras, and try to sort this stuff out. But again,
Speaker 6: you know the one thing you can do about being
Speaker 6: proactive is go out and manage the landscape to optimize
Speaker 6: cover where it's at, and that will give you a leg.
Speaker 3: Up on hunting.
Speaker 2: Doctor Strickland talked about this subject more in depth, as
Speaker 2: well as some other research that whitetail hunters will care
Speaker 2: about with Mark Kenyon on episode eight two three of
Speaker 2: Wired to Hunt. Every deer hunter should go. Give that
Speaker 2: a listen, Doctor Strickland, thanks for joining us and come
Speaker 2: back next time. You guys got some new white tail
Speaker 2: research that you're excited about.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, thanks so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: The only thing I could think about there is a
Speaker 1: name like Bronson Strickland. Yeah, like he probably in the
Speaker 1: peer review process. He just reviews his own paper, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like nobody argues with Bronson Strickland.
Speaker 2: That's a Mississippi State university.
Speaker 1: His fas got together and they were like, listen, there's
Speaker 1: cute names. Yep, they're strong names. We're going strong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: setting this kid up for success.
Speaker 2: We're going dear biologists. Name in the South's in Strickland.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Our next segment data It's gospel.
Speaker 1: The last thing I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: Our next segment is meat Eater Movie Club. This week
Speaker 2: we're reviewing the two thousand and one comedy Escanaba Into Moonlight.
Speaker 3: Escanaba Into Moonlight, written directed by, and starring Jeff Daniels,
Speaker 3: is a quirky nineteen ninety Oh, excuse me, it's not
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one. It's two thousand, thousand one comedy that
Speaker 3: delves into the peculiar world of deer hunting culture in
Speaker 3: Michigan's Upper Peninsula. The film follows Ruben Sodi, a forty
Speaker 3: three year old man desperate to break his family's curse
Speaker 3: of being the oldest Sodi never to bag a buck.
Speaker 3: At its core, Escanaba is a tale about a man's
Speaker 3: struggle to find his place within family and community. Ruben's
Speaker 3: desperation to shoot a deer speaks to a large anxiety
Speaker 3: about living up to societal expectations and maintaining relevance in
Speaker 3: a world where traditional markers of manhood are increasingly questioned.
Speaker 3: The film, setting in the remote wilderness of the Upper Peninsula,
Speaker 3: serves as both a character in itself and a metaph
Speaker 3: for the character's isolation from mainstream society. This backtop amplifies
Speaker 3: the sense of a world onto itself where ancient rituals
Speaker 3: and modern anxieties collide in often absurd ways. Now, if
Speaker 3: you'll indulge me for a moment, it is my birthday.
Speaker 3: I'm going to humor myself. Take us out into left
Speaker 3: field here. Clifford Gearts's nineteen seventy three book The Interpretation
Speaker 3: of Cultures includes an essay widely regarded as his seminal work,
Speaker 3: Deep Play, Notes on the Balinese Cockfight. In this piece, Geartz,
Speaker 3: who for second world decades stood as the single most
Speaker 3: influential cultural anthropologist in the United States, provides a vivid
Speaker 3: description of his year long nineteen fifty eight stay in
Speaker 3: an Indonesian village the practices of cockfighting and gambling. On cockfighting,
Speaker 3: then illegal in Indonesia, Geetz identifies as a ritual that
Speaker 3: best explains Balanese society. Here, I'll read an excerpt from
Speaker 3: Gears with a few changes of my own to anchor
Speaker 3: his analysis within the framework of Escanaba in de moonlight.
Speaker 2: Oh what a tree.
Speaker 3: What sets deer hunting apart from the ordinary course of life,
Speaker 3: lifts it from the realm of everyday practical affairs and
Speaker 3: surrounds it with an aura of enlarged importance. Is not
Speaker 3: as a functional as society would have it, that it
Speaker 3: reinforces status, but that it provides a metasocial commentary upon
Speaker 3: the whole matter of assorting human beings into fixed hierarchical ranks,
Speaker 3: and then organizing the major part of collective existence around
Speaker 3: that assortment. What the deer hunt says, it says in
Speaker 3: a vocabulary of sentiment, the thrill of risk, the despair
Speaker 3: of loss, the pleasure of triumph. Yet what it says
Speaker 3: is not merely that risk is exciting, lost depressing, or
Speaker 3: triumph gratifying. But it is of these emotions thus exampled,
Speaker 3: that society is built and individuals are put together. If
Speaker 3: we go to see Macbeth to learn what a man
Speaker 3: feels like after he has gained a kingdom and lost
Speaker 3: his soul, upers go to deer camp to find out
Speaker 3: what a man, usually composed aloof and almost obsessively self absorbed,
Speaker 3: feels like when he has totally triumphed or been brought
Speaker 3: totally low. Every people. The proverb has it loves its
Speaker 3: own form of violence. The deer hunt is the uper's
Speaker 3: reflection on theirs, on its look, its uses, its force,
Speaker 3: its fascination. Drawing on almost every level of yuper experience,
Speaker 3: alcohol consumption, ucher, spam based cuisine, and most importantly, big
Speaker 3: old bucks, the deer camp binds them into a set
Speaker 3: of rules which at once contains them and allows them
Speaker 3: to play, and builds a symbolic structure in which, over
Speaker 3: and over again, the reality of their inner yuper affiliation
Speaker 3: can be intelligibly felt. Now, to put a finer point
Speaker 3: on this, the parallels between the Balinese cockfight and deer
Speaker 3: camp traditions highlight how both activities serve as windows into
Speaker 3: their respective cultures. They show how seemingly irrational or exaggerated
Speaker 3: behaviors can have profound meaning within their cultural context. Like
Speaker 3: the Balanese cockfight, the deer camp's hierarchies and traditions mirror
Speaker 3: the larger social order of the community. Like the cockfight,
Speaker 3: the stakes are so high in this pastime that participation
Speaker 3: in it seems irrational to outsiders. At the same time,
Speaker 3: Like the Balinese cockfight, the deer camp takes place in
Speaker 3: a liminal space, on the margins of community, where day
Speaker 3: to day norms are suspended and new identities can be forged, reinforced,
Speaker 3: or destroyed. The bucklass uper At deer Camp, new social
Speaker 3: standings are both contested and affirmed. The potential loss for
Speaker 3: Reuben continued shame and ostracism far out weigh any practical gain,
Speaker 3: yet his participation remains essential for his own identity and
Speaker 3: social standing. Thus, the Sody family deer hunt is not
Speaker 3: just about killing an animal, but it in fact is
Speaker 3: a rich tapestry of meanings, masculinity, family legacies, connections to nature,
Speaker 3: and cultural identity. It has its own languages, rituals, and mythologies.
Speaker 3: In conclusion, viewing Escanaba and to Moonlight through a Girzian
Speaker 3: lens reveals it to be more than a ninety minute
Speaker 3: film with a ten minute long scene involving an elaborate
Speaker 3: effort to get a sleeping man to fart directly on
Speaker 3: the face of another. It becomes a rich text for
Speaker 3: understanding how ritual and cultural practice embody and reinforce social structures,
Speaker 3: identity in world worldviews. In a specific cultural context. The
Speaker 3: film presents a humorous yet poignant commentary on the human
Speaker 3: need for belonging and achievement and the universal desire to
Speaker 3: prove one's worth and find meaning and seemingly arbitrary pursuits.
Speaker 3: So wow, that's my take.
Speaker 2: That was very academic for a movie where there's a
Speaker 2: scene where a fart blows the windows off a cabin.
Speaker 3: For a long time, my trivia team went by the
Speaker 3: name Balinese Cockfight.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's just amazing to, you know, bring
Speaker 1: this into real world context, that all of that can
Speaker 1: get boiled down to the outsider with the question of
Speaker 1: so did you get a deer?
Speaker 3: Oh? I think there's much more to it than that.
Speaker 3: And for my factoid before I ask you for your impressions, Yep,
Speaker 3: Jeff Daniels is a Michigan He's from Chelsea, Michigan, and
Speaker 3: he wrote this play be performed at the theater in
Speaker 3: Chelsea that he built. Chelsea, Michigan is home of Jiffy Mix,
Speaker 3: the cornbread mixture which we all love. And among the
Speaker 3: various interesting facts I found about the creation of this film,
Speaker 3: Ted Nugent Supply, a fellow Michian Michigan supplied props to
Speaker 3: be used in the hunting camp. So there's a real
Speaker 3: authenticity there that's good. So thoughts on the film.
Speaker 2: I think my takeaway is that like, if you white
Speaker 2: tail hunt in the north Woods, you like this movie.
Speaker 2: But if you're a bass angler from Georgia or like
Speaker 2: an elkhunter from Utah, I wouldn't say it's a must
Speaker 2: watch for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just like somebody who watches TV, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, didn't need that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you watch Did you watch this by yourself
Speaker 3: or did Shelby screen it with you?
Speaker 2: My wife was around yeah, about five minutes and she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is kind of funny, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like it's a comedy.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It's Jeff Dane Daniels who wrote it, started it, directed it,
Speaker 2: But I didn't know what to expect. I had never
Speaker 2: seen it before.
Speaker 3: I've never seen it either. Sydney asked that I turn
Speaker 3: it off last night and we instead watched Love Is Blind,
Speaker 3: And then I started watching it again this morning at
Speaker 3: home over fresh pot of coffee, and she asked that
Speaker 3: we not have it on anymore, and so I finished
Speaker 3: it here this morning at about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: So very good it does.
Speaker 3: I think it will find a mixed reception among diverse audiences. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love Jeff Daniels. I think he's extremely talented, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, hats off to him that he could slip
Speaker 1: a passion project through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this really did feel like a passion project, like
Speaker 3: a love letter to Michigan deer hunting culture. I'm curious,
Speaker 3: from your perspectives as outdoorsman, what about this movie rang
Speaker 3: true to you?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: I love that it's a movie about the social pressure
Speaker 2: that comes with a deer camp. That's a real thing,
Speaker 2: and then this movie took it to like the millionth extreme.
Speaker 2: I also liked that it felt very Michigan because it
Speaker 2: was filmed in Michigan. They were drinking Lining Google, a
Speaker 2: beer that's brewed in Wisconsin. They talked about the commemorative
Speaker 2: bucks of Michigan, which is a real thing that folks
Speaker 2: in that part of the world care about. They're playing uker,
Speaker 2: which is a deer camp staple in the Northwoods, and
Speaker 2: they're eating pasties, which is a very Michigan food. So
Speaker 2: I enjoyed all of those little nods to, you know,
Speaker 2: people from that part of the world, and I think about, like,
Speaker 2: my favorite TV show ever is Deadwood, and Deadwood was
Speaker 2: made for me. I'm not saying it's the best show ever,
Speaker 2: but it's my favorite show because it's like about, you know,
Speaker 2: my favorite time in history in one of my favorite
Speaker 2: places in the country. And if you are someone who
Speaker 2: hunts deer in Michigan, you would probably have a similar response.
Speaker 2: I think to this movie. They're like, oh, this was
Speaker 2: made for me. I really like this thing.
Speaker 1: I like that you pick up on the social pressure
Speaker 1: as theme because it is blown up so so much
Speaker 1: that it's hard to understand that that's really what it is. Sure,
Speaker 1: and if you're in deer camp, it's okay if nobody's
Speaker 1: getting deer, and it's okay if everybody's getting deer, but
Speaker 1: it's really not okay if a couple of people are
Speaker 1: getting dere and nobody else is.
Speaker 2: Right, or if you're the only one right.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed in his fevered dream, the uh the
Speaker 3: scene where he sees he's at the football game and
Speaker 3: he sees the scoreboard and it's real men ninety five
Speaker 3: and then him zero. His dream, I thought revealed a
Speaker 3: lot about the Anxieties of a Deer Hunter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was released in two thousand and one,
Speaker 2: but I think it's supposed to be in like nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine.
Speaker 3: November fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine. He wrote the play it was.
Speaker 3: It was initially written as a play and he wrote
Speaker 3: that in ninety six. What I thought was very strange.
Speaker 3: And this is sort of off topic, but it feels
Speaker 3: like it was made in nineteen eighty three, like two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, Just you know, to keep this in mind,
Speaker 3: this film was released six hundred and forty six days
Speaker 3: after The Matrix was released. Oh if you think about
Speaker 3: The Matrix as sort of a moment of rupture in
Speaker 3: modern filmmaking, yeah, this, I mean, it's almost incomprehensible that
Speaker 3: this was a two thousand and one release.
Speaker 2: Time pieces that are old always like put my brain
Speaker 2: in a pratzel. I remember being a kid and seeing
Speaker 2: Greece and like not being able to grasp that it
Speaker 2: was released in like the late seventies, but it's about
Speaker 2: the early fifties and not really knowing like where that felt,
Speaker 2: where that fell in the world when it came out.
Speaker 2: And it's sort of the same thing with this like
Speaker 2: a two thousand and one movie about the late eighties,
Speaker 2: but like you said, it felt like it was the
Speaker 2: early eighties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it. I mean, I think all of the
Speaker 3: vehicles they're driving, and all the gun they have, and
Speaker 3: then the references to like the Macinaw Bridge and all
Speaker 3: these Like at one point he calls I think people
Speaker 3: from the Lower Peninsula fudge suckers, which is a reference
Speaker 3: to like macinaw is very famous for its fudge. I
Speaker 3: just I don't think I've ever seen a film that
Speaker 3: is so deeply embedded and has all these specific cultural
Speaker 3: touch points that just like rang true throughout.
Speaker 2: A racial slur that was used, you know, three or
Speaker 2: four times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, the sort of kitchy sort of parody of
Speaker 3: Native American traditions. Yeah, was a little I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's another deer camp thing, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: generational inside jokes. Yeah, and that's what the movie is.
Speaker 3: What about it did not hit with you.
Speaker 2: There's a surprising lack of deer hunting for a movie
Speaker 2: about deer hunting. He doesn't even go deer hunting until
Speaker 2: like the eighty second minute of a ninety three minute movie,
Speaker 2: and that deer hunting scene is just like him running
Speaker 2: after a glowing orb in the woods. And so I
Speaker 2: was expecting much more like sitting in deer blinds and
Speaker 2: being cold and crapping in the woods and oiling guns
Speaker 2: than just like you know, sitting in the deer cab
Speaker 2: in the day before opener.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although I in some respect, my relationship with deer
Speaker 3: hunting or hunting in general is ninety six percent leading
Speaker 3: up to it and then four percent actually doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe that's a larger commentary on our obsessive pursuits of
Speaker 3: these things.
Speaker 2: The other thing was that it was it was written
Speaker 2: like a play, like you when you know that. I
Speaker 2: knew that ahead of time because we had a trivia
Speaker 2: question about this recently. It feels like a one act play.
Speaker 2: And I would like this script a whole lot better
Speaker 2: if I watched it like as a play in a
Speaker 2: theater in Michigan. And it felt very similar to Rocky
Speaker 2: Horror Pictures Show, which also has like a weird cult following,
Speaker 2: and it's a very weird movie where things happen that
Speaker 2: you don't expect, and it's it was written as a
Speaker 2: play that became a movie and you sort of feel
Speaker 2: that too when you watch Rocky Horror Picture Show. I
Speaker 2: think the same thing went with Eskinabin The Moonlight. I
Speaker 2: would enjoy this much more. Uh if Phil was on
Speaker 2: a stage playing Ruben Sodi.
Speaker 3: I have to say I was thinking about that quite
Speaker 3: a bit, if we could do our own little production
Speaker 3: in Bozeman here.
Speaker 1: But also, didn't you kind of think about what Spencer
Speaker 1: left out about his grease experience. Was that like he
Speaker 1: kind of had probably like a little doop phase Spencer.
Speaker 1: I think about that his his love blossoming for musical theater.
Speaker 2: Listen, I love theater. I won a one act play
Speaker 2: award in high school Outstanding Actor award. Wow, so you're
Speaker 2: really lucky critical I held I held season tickets to
Speaker 2: theater when I lived in Sioux Falls. I've been to
Speaker 2: probably like a Broadway shows. I've probably been to twenty
Speaker 2: shows off of Broadway. I enjoy theater, and Phil thinks
Speaker 2: that I go there to support him when I go
Speaker 2: to you know, a musical and Bozeman. But I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm just there on my own.
Speaker 1: You should have just.
Speaker 3: I have seen here in the comments that someone may
Speaker 3: made a note about the subtitles. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you watched it with the subtitle, Oh, it's fabulous, because
Speaker 3: it's just unintelligible and and they can't get the name
Speaker 3: right Sody, So if you're watching it with the SoundOff,
Speaker 3: you think that they're talking about the Saudis the whole time.
Speaker 3: It's just like, it's like the Saudis, the Saudi's crap
Speaker 3: so big they have to climb off the pile or
Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's like it's a very different movie
Speaker 3: with the subtitles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing all at all?
Speaker 3: Is this going to make your list of recommendations to
Speaker 3: fellow hunters?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: To me, it was like barely a movie about deer honey.
Speaker 2: It could have been about, you know, shooting pool eracing cars.
Speaker 2: But if you're like a north Woods deer hunter, if
Speaker 2: you like gulump in that area, I think you'll like it.
Speaker 2: I did say three stars. That's that's my three story.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 3: The only.
Speaker 1: I really don't have a movie that I would be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're interested in hunting, here's a feature film you should watch.
Speaker 1: It'd be Jeremiah Johnson would be like the closest thing, like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's some outdoor stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's a zero from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not okay. Yeah, I think it was just
Speaker 1: a bad question.
Speaker 3: I will say, Oh, so you just disagree with the
Speaker 3: premise of the segment. I I love this segment personally.
Speaker 3: I will say, if I if we could somehow acquire
Speaker 3: the intellectual property, I'd love to remake this movie, uh
Speaker 3: in in the style of another adaptation of a stage play,
Speaker 3: which is Glengarry Glenn Ross and just have that, Like
Speaker 3: it's also about men seeking h They're just desperate men
Speaker 3: trying to reach out and sort of avoid their own
Speaker 3: personal failures, you know, through through getting the Glengarry leads. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like a dark deer camp, Phil would be fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve angry men right up there with us.
Speaker 3: With that, I think I've probably used up all the
Speaker 3: time for this segment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love me movie clubs.
Speaker 3: Oh it's the best, so.
Speaker 1: Fun, especially when it's Randall's birthday. I think he's bringing
Speaker 1: a little extra heat.
Speaker 3: I did treat myself to a few extra words in
Speaker 3: my commentary.
Speaker 2: So all right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil,
Speaker 2: what does the chant have to say?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see here. See Cornelia says a comment more
Speaker 5: about Cal's mustache. Everyone should take mustache notes from Cal.
Speaker 1: Rule one.
Speaker 5: Don't touch a just trim or do anything to said state.
Speaker 5: Let it grow. Step two repeat step one. Cal, do
Speaker 5: you have any mustache care, grooming tips or any routine
Speaker 5: because some people were comparing your mustache to Spencer's and
Speaker 5: saying that you could actually take tips from Spencer about
Speaker 5: stash grooming, and I thought you might take offense to that.
Speaker 5: I kind of want to just stoke the FH.
Speaker 1: No, no offense to each their own.
Speaker 2: I'm just got different styles.
Speaker 1: Right In a state like Montana, where it's very dry,
Speaker 1: your hair gets real brittle and it just chips off
Speaker 1: and falls off out. So why even just does it
Speaker 1: on its own? But if you have a lot of
Speaker 1: extra time in your day, like Spencer does to do
Speaker 1: self rooming, you can go that route route too. I'm
Speaker 1: not You're just better at time management, is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: time management compliment.
Speaker 2: What you don't know is I shaved about three minutes
Speaker 2: before walking out the door this morning. It was almost
Speaker 2: five o'clock. Shadow version of this.
Speaker 5: In honor of white Tail Week, what is the crew's
Speaker 5: favorite piece? A first light white tail gear that's from Nathan.
Speaker 2: I love the hand muff. I use that thing all
Speaker 2: year round. I use it when I'm white tail hunting.
Speaker 2: I use it when I'm archery hunting, rifle hunting, ice fishing,
Speaker 2: turkey hunt. The hand muff is like incredibly versatile. Anybody
Speaker 2: could could use one of those, and it's it's like
Speaker 2: pretty inexpensive. You'll use it for a lot of your
Speaker 2: year when it's cold out. The white tail hand muff.
Speaker 1: Everything you buy in the Spector pattern, which is this
Speaker 1: pattern that we're rocking right here, goes a percentage of
Speaker 1: that goes to National Deer Alliance, part of our CAMO
Speaker 1: for Conservation program, which is super awesome. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of companies do that, and so you know, buy something
Speaker 1: inspector and support NBA.
Speaker 3: I haven't been able to come up with a favorite
Speaker 3: piece of media or First Light whitetail gear because I'm
Speaker 3: wondering if Nathan here is a plant from our friends
Speaker 3: at First Light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Randa is saying that this Jackie might be asy around.
Speaker 3: Jack I do like this jacket quite a bit. This
Speaker 3: is the Phase jacket and it's a nice it's a
Speaker 3: nice fleece fits well. Get some good pockets. I like
Speaker 3: the lining. It's very warm, which is perfect for a
Speaker 3: podcast studio that already runs a little hot, so very comfortable.
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, start with good bass layers. You got
Speaker 1: buy marine o wool.
Speaker 2: Just like with that hand muff. You'll use that on
Speaker 2: all your outdoor adventures.
Speaker 1: Exactly more bang for your buck. All right, this kind
Speaker 1: of a double entendre Phil Hey to get that. That's right,
Speaker 1: plus pears.
Speaker 5: Yeah, last one we'll get to some housekeeping. Garrett's asking
Speaker 5: how willing are you guys to eat fish from small
Speaker 5: ponds lakes in cities, example Glenn Lakes, which is Bozeman
Speaker 5: Beach here in Bozeman, the main tributary is Bozeman Creek,
Speaker 5: which run straight under the city. Seems a bit radioactive, thoughts.
Speaker 3: I would consult your local Fish and Game agency slash
Speaker 3: public health authority. I know that when we went to
Speaker 3: ann Arbor, we considered perhaps eating This was before we
Speaker 3: decided on a golf course pond, but we considered eating
Speaker 3: some fish, and uh, nothing from that county. I think
Speaker 3: is recommended that it that it be eaten.
Speaker 2: So I think unless you're pregnant, you're probably okay. I
Speaker 2: I probably am not eating anything from the Glen Lakes
Speaker 2: in Bozeman, But if I didn't have a few walleye
Speaker 2: in my freeze right now, i'd probably think differently.
Speaker 1: Cal small, fast growing fish. You're you're pretty much okay.
Speaker 1: Remember the solution to pollution is dilution. So yeah, high water, uh,
Speaker 1: and uh, little lakes like that. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: think the nasty particulate is in the water column. It's
Speaker 1: it's settled, so you should be just fine.
Speaker 2: One more time before we move on here, Phil, can
Speaker 2: you pull up the photo that we're using for the
Speaker 2: caption contest in case anybody joined us late. We have
Speaker 2: a caption.
Speaker 5: Contest really quick. Uh, Shelby Huber says it up, Spencer,
Speaker 5: you ate a goldfish.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. You can watch that on season two.
Speaker 2: A pardon my plate, We ate a goldfish that I
Speaker 2: caught from an hoa pond in Bozeman. She got me there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the here's the captain contest. We've already I'm
Speaker 5: already having trouble filtering through them. There are so many
Speaker 5: good ones. I think I'm down to like seven right now. Wow,
Speaker 5: you know that there are some really good ones that
Speaker 5: are just not going to make the top five. I
Speaker 5: apologize just how this stuff works, but thanks for right
Speaker 5: no man. But here here's the photo again. First, right
Speaker 5: the caption.
Speaker 2: Phil is going to read the best comments that our
Speaker 2: live viewers, right, and at the end of the show,
Speaker 2: we're going to pick our favorite one and give that
Speaker 2: person a first light core jack.
Speaker 5: And really quick spencer before we move on. This is
Speaker 5: an announcement for next week's episode of Meat Eater Live.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, ninety percent of the company's slash
Speaker 5: crew is going to be in Venice, Louisiana for Meat
Speaker 5: Eater Experiences next week. So Meat Eater Radio Live will
Speaker 5: not be live next week. It will be pre recorded.
Speaker 5: We're still going to try to live stream the pre
Speaker 5: recorded video, so you guys can hang out in the
Speaker 5: live chat if you would like to, but that fully
Speaker 5: depends on the kind of upload speeds we get down
Speaker 5: there and our internet connection.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: If we cannot live stream, it will still be uploaded
Speaker 5: onto our YouTube channel at eleven am Mountain Standard time
Speaker 5: next Thursday.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you Phil. Speaking of Venice, Louisiana, our next
Speaker 2: guest is joining us from there for one minute fishing.
Speaker 5: Oh I was too busy trying to add Yannis, I
Speaker 5: forgot to play the song did did.
Speaker 8: I feel lucky?
Speaker 2: We'll do you punk, go ahead make my cast. One
Speaker 2: Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's
Speaker 2: fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is
Speaker 2: Giannis Poutellis, who's on the Mississippi River near Venice, Louisiana,
Speaker 2: and he's fishing for a donation to Captains for Clean Water. Yanni,
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Thanks sho.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, Spencer?
Speaker 4: I was gonna do the Billfish Foundation, but you go
Speaker 4: ahead and pick where my U.
Speaker 1: Forget.
Speaker 2: I said that fishing. Yanni's fishing for a donation to
Speaker 2: the Billfish Foundation. Yanni, is it raining there?
Speaker 8: What is the question?
Speaker 2: Is it raining there? It looks like you're in some
Speaker 2: bad weather.
Speaker 4: It is rain, and we're all suited up. It's been
Speaker 4: beautiful last two days.
Speaker 8: But of course, for when our little.
Speaker 4: Year experience is gonna start, we're gonna have rain for
Speaker 4: a couple of days, but it's not gonna slow us down.
Speaker 4: The fish are already wet.
Speaker 8: They don't care.
Speaker 4: They're still gonna eat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm here with Brene Cross.
Speaker 4: He's the owner here of Cypruscoot Marina and he's been
Speaker 4: a big part of setting up this whole experiences deal
Speaker 4: that we're about to do. And you know you've been
Speaker 4: asking me about if I'm gonna be confident or can
Speaker 4: I do one minute fishing. It wasn't until yesterday when
Speaker 4: I was here at the cleaning table. We're no two
Speaker 4: days ago, and uh, the guys are pitching carcasses off
Speaker 4: the edge here and there's a literal feeding frenzy that
Speaker 4: happens right next to the fish cleaning table. Whoa, it's
Speaker 4: not quite as easy as let's say, a pond behind
Speaker 4: the office building and Bozeman, it should be pretty good. Rey,
Speaker 4: you need to add, well, I guarantee you one thing
Speaker 4: about pouring down range so fish don't get up on
Speaker 4: the platforms and they don't ply my fall land.
Speaker 9: So they're still right there and they still got to eat.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Yanni, you said that there is a feeding
Speaker 2: frenzy happening, But what fish is doing this feeding frenzy.
Speaker 4: Type of Uh, it looks like it's mostly hardhead catfish.
Speaker 4: We did see a guy actually just twenty minutes to
Speaker 4: go full out some kind of a.
Speaker 1: Jack jack pravel jack.
Speaker 9: And the salt water is coming up into the river
Speaker 9: systems right now, and with it comes all of the
Speaker 9: salt water fish. Uh, because normally this is Mississippi River
Speaker 9: is fresh water. So at this time of year, the
Speaker 9: swamp saltwater goes all the way up to the city,
Speaker 9: if you all, it's literally and so with it comes
Speaker 9: the that prevailed redfish. Everything is up in the river now.
Speaker 4: That's because the Mississippi River is low correct, so the tide
Speaker 4: or the ocean can actually push saltwater back against the current.
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
Speaker 9: And we're we're actually building a barrier about twenty miles
Speaker 9: north of here to slow down the saltwater intrusion into
Speaker 9: the city New Orleans, because we get all our water systems.
Speaker 6: From all of our water supply.
Speaker 9: Comes from the Mississippi River and it is treated. So
Speaker 9: we're trying to they're trying to keep it out of
Speaker 9: the city New Orleans because we want it down here.
Speaker 2: All right, Yanni, you tell us, you tell us what
Speaker 2: your strategy is for being successful here, and then we'll
Speaker 2: get to fishing, well.
Speaker 8: I'll show you. And this is what I got.
Speaker 4: This is a chunk of it's left over tuna from
Speaker 4: the tuna that we caught yesterday offshore from about eight
Speaker 4: to make a yellow fit. I'm still full from all
Speaker 4: the sashimia I last night, but uh, it's just real,
Speaker 4: real base they cooked with the big old chuck of
Speaker 4: meat on it, and then I got it under a barber.
Speaker 4: My biggest hurdle right now is gonna be the fact
Speaker 4: that Renee gave me a bait caster limited experience when
Speaker 4: a bait cast burn. A bait caster knows there's a
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of bird the birds nests that
Speaker 4: come from bycastle, so I don't have to cast far.
Speaker 4: We pre fished it so we know that there's something
Speaker 4: that's gonna fight.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then Renee is actually gonna.
Speaker 4: Make a cast too with a much heavier rig, but
Speaker 4: just a jig head with with a chunk of fish
Speaker 4: on it. But he's got it all like forty pound
Speaker 4: tests just in case he hooks into a one of those.
Speaker 1: Jacks, Rebel, then we can pull it in faster because.
Speaker 4: The guy that was here earlier pulling that jack can
Speaker 4: ballot took him thirty minutes to land that pitch.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you may hook something, but
Speaker 1: you're not gonna land for the segment.
Speaker 4: So that was the question I had. I have to
Speaker 4: have the fish landed within a minute.
Speaker 2: Just hook up, hook up, and within a minute, and
Speaker 2: then we'll give you all the time you need to
Speaker 2: fight that thing and get it to shore.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. Spencer hooks
Speaker 1: one of those jacks.
Speaker 4: You guys got to come back to us in fifteen.
Speaker 2: Minutes, okay, okay. So for the first time ever, in
Speaker 2: one minute fishing history, we have two anglers. They are
Speaker 2: using cut bait. You're Venice, Louisiana, Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, go
Speaker 2: for it. Well, the clock will start. The clock will
Speaker 2: start as soon as you take your first cast.
Speaker 4: What it's gonna fall off?
Speaker 2: Yanni is rehooking his cut bait. He was not ready
Speaker 2: for this cut bait. Oh, he's adding more cut bait. Okay.
Speaker 2: I would be real satisfied if he gives us a
Speaker 2: bird's nest on this first cast.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, bold move fold move.
Speaker 2: Here, Yanni. How close are we to being ready? This
Speaker 2: is this is the one minute segment. We're ready, Yes,
Speaker 2: we are, they are. They are in the marina here.
Speaker 2: I think we can see a lot of boats in
Speaker 2: the background.
Speaker 3: You gotta love fishing at a fish cleaning table.
Speaker 2: Goes Okay, they have just made their first cast. The
Speaker 2: one minute starts.
Speaker 3: Now did he hook up it?
Speaker 2: No way?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Does he have one?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is incredible. My timer got to ten seconds and
Speaker 2: they both talk.
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's.
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 7: Do you?
Speaker 2: What do you got there, Yanni? Are these the hardhead catfish? Okay,
Speaker 2: they're scrambling. They're looking to make another cast.
Speaker 5: I don't know how much I can hear us right
Speaker 5: now too. We've got a rough connection on top of
Speaker 5: rain catfish.
Speaker 4: It's a saltwater catfish.
Speaker 2: A hard headed catfish. And I had to educate myself.
Speaker 2: Oh he got another one. They caught three fish. Now, man, there, this.
Speaker 4: Is phenomenal catfish.
Speaker 6: So I'm done.
Speaker 2: This is phenomenal advertising for the meat eater experience in Venice, Louisiana.
Speaker 3: And a redemption of the Peteli's family name.
Speaker 2: That's right, true, Yanni. Uh catching three fish within a minute.
Speaker 1: I like those grippers for the catfish there. Stay away
Speaker 1: from the most spines. Boys.
Speaker 3: Oh that was exciting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was incredibly exciting but also somehow
Speaker 5: incredibly anti climactic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Three catfish within thirty seconds. Well done, Yanni, Well done, Renee.
Speaker 2: And those are hard head catfish. I had to learn
Speaker 2: about them a little bit. They the world record is
Speaker 2: like four and a half pounds. They do not grow
Speaker 2: very big.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, they don't get big.
Speaker 2: No, so you got some stand fish there for a hardhead.
Speaker 3: We're gonna make Renee is still fishing, Renee is.
Speaker 2: Still fish in the background. I don't care. We're gonna
Speaker 2: make a thousand dollars donation today, then, Yanni to the
Speaker 2: Billfish Foundation, how about that?
Speaker 4: I like it?
Speaker 2: I like it all right.
Speaker 4: The Renee was telling me, they're the ones that provide
Speaker 4: and and uh, the all the tagging that a lot
Speaker 4: of people are using off shore, like but instead of
Speaker 4: killing fish, they're tagging these fish with satellite trackers and
Speaker 4: a lot of that research and the and the money
Speaker 4: and all that comes from the bill Fish Foundation.
Speaker 3: Another one.
Speaker 2: He's pulling them in as fast as in the background.
Speaker 3: Someone stuff that man.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Yanni, we will we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2: And wow, that like five fish in our one minute
Speaker 2: fishing segment. All right, moving on, our next segment is
Speaker 2: let's talk about sex.
Speaker 5: You want to talk about want to talk about?
Speaker 1: I want to talk about.
Speaker 3: Justice, showing the falcons and.
Speaker 1: I like to hear stick saying.
Speaker 5: A word to come to tea because occasionally you don't
Speaker 5: want to talk about sex.
Speaker 2: You could have went with the obvious Salt and Peppa single.
Speaker 2: But Toby Keith, uh, I want to talk about me
Speaker 2: Phil Crow.
Speaker 1: Phi'll just yeah, talk about using this is his platform
Speaker 1: to show.
Speaker 5: All right, let's it really, I'm just taking advantage of it.
Speaker 2: It's let's talk about sex. Is where Karen enlightens us
Speaker 2: on animal kingdom intercourse. Take it away, Karen, here we go.
Speaker 7: This segment in honor of white Tail Week, is about
Speaker 7: white tails. Everybody.
Speaker 1: What qualifies you to host this?
Speaker 5: I did research, She did the research.
Speaker 2: We have some vandals fanning himself.
Speaker 3: It's got to be.
Speaker 7: If you're looking for forever love, you're out of luck
Speaker 7: with whitetail deer. As masters of non monogamy, whitetail bucks
Speaker 7: are fully obsessed with sexy time during the rut or
Speaker 7: mating season from October through December and extending through the
Speaker 7: end of January into the southern range. Whitetail bucks are
Speaker 7: singularly focused on hooking up with hot doughs, and by hot,
Speaker 7: I literally mean in heat. Like in her estrous cycle,
Speaker 7: eating and sleeping tend to fall by the wayside for
Speaker 7: bucks as they wander beyond their home range for greener pastures.
Speaker 7: The rut is all about the chase, and does will
Speaker 7: play hard to get. Bucks will run themselves ragged in
Speaker 7: pursuit of dos and can lose roughly twenty five percent
Speaker 7: of their body weight by the end of mating season.
Speaker 7: A doe will try her damnedest to flee the advance
Speaker 7: of a salivating buck, but when she determined she's ready
Speaker 7: biologically speaking, she will stop and stand for him. See, folks,
Speaker 7: it's all about consent. The buck sticks around for a
Speaker 7: bit to breed the willing dough several times while she's
Speaker 7: in her estras cycle, which typically lasts a day or two.
Speaker 7: It truly is a case of he loves her, then
Speaker 7: he leaves her, since soon enough he's frolicking off to
Speaker 7: find another hot dough. There's actually a scientific term for
Speaker 7: this behavior. It's called scramble polygyny. Whereby males partake in
Speaker 7: competitive searching for a maximum number of female mates. But
Speaker 7: it's not just the bucks that go wild and practice promiscuity.
Speaker 7: White tail does can read with multiple mates as well.
Speaker 7: She might fancy the older gentleman buck and the younger
Speaker 7: pool boy buck all the same. A hungry young buck
Speaker 7: foolishly in and over its head may try to challenge
Speaker 7: a more mature buck and get its butt whooped. Or
Speaker 7: he might sleek sneakily swoop in on lady Doe and
Speaker 7: she'll let him get lucky once the older male has
Speaker 7: done his deed.
Speaker 1: Describe for me a pool boy buck.
Speaker 5: You know, in its earlier years.
Speaker 7: With the dough being bred multiple times by multiple bucks
Speaker 7: during an estra cycle, sperm gets all mixed up inside
Speaker 7: two separate ova may get fertilized, and she could end
Speaker 7: up with twin fawnds fathered by two different baby daddies. Oh,
Speaker 7: how scandalous. The scientific term for multiple paternity in a
Speaker 7: single ungulate litter is called superfundication. Superfundication put the fun, yeah,
Speaker 7: and super fundation. There we go, cow super up, No
Speaker 7: super sorry, superfecondation. Oops, there's no fun in that. But
Speaker 7: plenty of fun what the fac Superfecondation is also known
Speaker 7: to occur in dogs, cats, and cows, and it's been
Speaker 7: verified in other mammal species such as shrews, deer mice,
Speaker 7: black bears, grizzly bears, polar bears, and feral hogs and humans.
Speaker 2: I've seen a maury about this, Like, yes, of course
Speaker 2: I miss that show.
Speaker 1: Missed that show, but yeah, so like when you're beautiful
Speaker 1: golden retriever spits out of border collie amongst a bunch of.
Speaker 7: Other golden superfecondation it is almost done, folks. Gestation lasts
Speaker 7: for around seven months, so we wouldn't know until the
Speaker 7: following spring just how frisky Mamadou had been during the
Speaker 7: previous fall. Paternity testing in wildlife populations is no easy task,
Speaker 7: so identifying superfecundation hasn't even been attempted in too many species.
Speaker 7: That's it for your sex education. Lesson today, folks, until
Speaker 7: next time.
Speaker 2: Well done. That was great, and as Cow pointed out,
Speaker 2: I love the pool boy buck reference. The hunting community
Speaker 2: needed that. I'm going to use that term in the future.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you introduced.
Speaker 5: Us to that perfect boy.
Speaker 7: Glad to do a service folks.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll have more. Let's talk about sex in
Speaker 2: the future. I think that's now my favorite segment that.
Speaker 1: We do because it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Bill's sound that he plays and Corinne's great research.
Speaker 3: A short lived reigin for Meat Eater Movie Club.
Speaker 1: When is your favorite for about twenty one minutes, Well,
Speaker 1: we had never Yeah, you're right when selecting for mature
Speaker 1: animals though, right, it's more more than just antler size, Right,
Speaker 1: You're looking at body type and I often throw in attitude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pool boy, buck, my pool boy buck. Be like, you know,
Speaker 1: a term that we can carry on in the field
Speaker 1: pretty easily. Gonna use it all full conkey, little pool boy.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 2: Joining us on the line next is Ryan Beerman, who
Speaker 2: survived a black bear attack in Wisconsin thanks to some
Speaker 2: good shooting from his twelve year old son. Ryan. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show.
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me, all right.
Speaker 2: Ryan, First off, tell us what you were doing in
Speaker 2: the woods on that fateful.
Speaker 8: Day September seventh. Me and my son were bear hunting.
Speaker 8: My son had a bear tag for the area of Wisconsin.
Speaker 8: We're hunting sire Wisconsin, hunting over bait. So in Wisconsin
Speaker 8: bait hunters. It alternates every year, so this year bait
Speaker 8: hunters went first. So next year now hound hunters at first.
Speaker 8: But we were sitting over bait and do your stand
Speaker 8: or bear stand, I guess you call it. But in
Speaker 8: my about six pm, I tapped my son on the
Speaker 8: shoulder and I said, oh, and there's once straight west
Speaker 8: of us, and watched it and it never came through,
Speaker 8: and kept watching and they ended up coming in from
Speaker 8: the north side of the bait, and he ended up
Speaker 8: putting a shot on it. And everything I seen when
Speaker 8: where the bear was biting it looked like it was
Speaker 8: a fatal shot. High fives and waited twenty minutes a
Speaker 8: half hour. We got down, neighbors called neighbors came over,
Speaker 8: started looking for blood. We didn't find blood right away.
Speaker 8: Ended up getting one of the neighbors to bring their
Speaker 8: chocolate lab over and we started trailing and I was
Speaker 8: carrying a ten milimeters pistol and my son was carrying
Speaker 8: a three fifty legend and he got dark on us
Speaker 8: and kept kept going with flashlights and headlamps and going
Speaker 8: into the I mean it was super thick where we
Speaker 8: were at. I actually when the dog ended up getting
Speaker 8: hit by the bearer, which I didn't realize he got
Speaker 8: hit by the bear. I thought he got probably got
Speaker 8: in the buckthorn or something. And he yelped and ran
Speaker 8: behind me, and I, you know, kind of stepped into
Speaker 8: the clearing and I was like, oh, man, right, there
Speaker 8: is a bear five feet away, and the best stance
Speaker 8: I can give you or tell you for the bear
Speaker 8: at that time he was sitting next to an oak
Speaker 8: tree looking like a cat ready to pounce.
Speaker 2: Wow. So for a recap so far, Ryan and his
Speaker 2: son Owen were bear hunting. Owen shot the bear, wounded it,
Speaker 2: they tracked it, and while they were tracking it, the
Speaker 2: bear maybe made a swipe at the dog. The dog
Speaker 2: ran out, and then the bear came after Ryan and
Speaker 2: it got on top of you right yep.
Speaker 8: So initially it came at me on it hind legs,
Speaker 8: you know, claws, and I actually got a scratch on
Speaker 8: her pretty decent cut on my right her left hand
Speaker 8: from I believe it would have initially swiped at me
Speaker 8: and it ended up knocking me over. At that point,
Speaker 8: he grabbed me by my right leg and it was
Speaker 8: shaking me profusely. I mean, it was shaking me. The
Speaker 8: best way I can describe it as a labrador shaking
Speaker 8: a rowbone. And at that time I was pistol whipping
Speaker 8: the bear. For better terms, I mean ten milimeters pistol.
Speaker 8: I shot at it as it was coming. I was
Speaker 8: shooting from the pretty much from my hip because I
Speaker 8: pulled it from side hole stirt and I was shooting
Speaker 8: at it as it was coming. So I was pistol
Speaker 8: whipping it with the empty pistol over and I remember
Speaker 8: thinking I got to change something up here, and I
Speaker 8: remember turning the pistol on the side and actually hitting
Speaker 8: the bear. I think I was trying to name for
Speaker 8: its year with the magwell and I twisted it, hit
Speaker 8: it with the magwell and leased for split second, and
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, it's over. You know, I thought
Speaker 8: the bear was gone. You know, I thought I was
Speaker 8: going to run off. At that point, I looked over
Speaker 8: and checked on on. On was fine, and I looked
Speaker 8: out and I just remember seeing claws and teeth coming
Speaker 8: shape from my face. At that point, instinctively, I stuck
Speaker 8: my right arm up in front of my face, and
Speaker 8: I remember the first bite. The first bite. I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 8: I just broke my arm because I heard the crunch
Speaker 8: of guessing with pen nine teeth going through my clothes
Speaker 8: and into my flashing into my arm, and I just
Speaker 8: remember thinking, how am I going to fight this bear
Speaker 8: with broken arm? And fight continued and it was like
Speaker 8: everything was in slow motion. I remember hearing the report
Speaker 8: of the iifle and I seen the muzzle flash, and
Speaker 8: I just remember the the bear's weight because he was
Speaker 8: sanded on top of me pretty much at this point.
Speaker 8: I just remember his weight shifting to my left side,
Speaker 8: which was away from the shot, and I just pushed
Speaker 8: him off to the left and he died right there,
Speaker 8: you know. And I rolled over trying to what distance
Speaker 8: in between me and the bear at that time.
Speaker 2: And that that shot that Ryan is describing came from
Speaker 2: his twelve year old son Owen, who was witnessing the attack.
Speaker 2: And Ryan, I had read that. You said you could
Speaker 2: feel the bullet passed through the bear. Is that correct?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 8: It was like nothing I ever felt. I mean it was,
Speaker 8: you know, I could just feel the hole that shot.
Speaker 8: I could feel the whole way to the bear going
Speaker 8: to my left side.
Speaker 2: And when when the attack was happening, at any point
Speaker 2: did you think to yourself, like, I hope Owen shoots
Speaker 2: this thing or had that not crossed your mind?
Speaker 8: I was I think I was screaming, trying to scream.
Speaker 8: I don't know, shoot it, shoot it?
Speaker 1: M Are you you at work right now? Ryan?
Speaker 8: Yep?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just want like the general reaction that
Speaker 1: you're getting right now when somebody's like, uh, boy, can
Speaker 1: you have a rough weekend? You got a couple of
Speaker 1: scars on your face that weren't there before, and you
Speaker 1: say I got attacked by a bear? What do they say?
Speaker 8: They're like, what they don't? You know, most people don't
Speaker 8: even believe it happened, you know, literally, let me hear
Speaker 8: the story.
Speaker 2: Wow, we are. We are looking at Ryan's fresh wounds
Speaker 2: right now. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can
Speaker 2: see those as well. Tell us about the wounds that
Speaker 2: you had and how those are healing.
Speaker 8: You're healing up pretty good. I mean you see it
Speaker 8: on my face that I caught here ripped open on
Speaker 8: my left side of my cheek, pretty much flayed open.
Speaker 8: Everything's healing up good, back to walk and just fine.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 2: Well, we we are glad that you're around to tell
Speaker 2: the story and tell Owen that he's a hero for us.
Speaker 2: What what an increble man? Yeah? All right, thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us, Ryan, thank you. Crazy stuff. A twelve
Speaker 2: year old to like have the the thought to shoot
Speaker 2: that bear and then successfully do it, it's like putting
Speaker 2: him in an insane situation.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, some of those situations you always wonder if you'd
Speaker 3: be able to pull that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, how anybody would versus just a twelve
Speaker 1: year old?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we have come to the end of the show.
Speaker 2: Phil should we do some listening or feedback and questions
Speaker 2: first before we wrap up the caption contest?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure, what do you got here?
Speaker 5: Zachary wants a mediatter movie club style randall breakdown about
Speaker 5: Love is Blind.
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If there are any seasons in particular you'd like us
Speaker 3: to review, please send it to radio at the mediator
Speaker 3: dot com.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if you're new to the dating genre,
Speaker 1: if you watch what's the one that I enjoyed? The
Speaker 1: Love on the Spectrum, and then your girlfriend's like, let's
Speaker 1: watch Love is Blind. Love is Blind is such a letdown.
Speaker 1: So there's not a single blind person on that show.
Speaker 1: Love Love Spectrum Wonderful.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm a big fan of Love is Blind
Speaker 3: and Love Island and all of these shows. So the
Speaker 3: only problem is they keep getting longer and longer. They're
Speaker 3: like twenty eight episodes now, and the episodes are themselves,
Speaker 3: you know, seventy minutes. It's really overwhelming.
Speaker 2: I get second hand, I get secondhand exposure to these shows,
Speaker 2: but I have yet to uh, you know, take it
Speaker 2: in for myself. And I'm glad. I'm glad you like them, Rando.
Speaker 3: We can address that. We can address that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else you got? Phil?
Speaker 5: Ryan is asking about any traditions or superstition during your
Speaker 5: hunting camp or at your hunting camp as you prepare
Speaker 5: for a trip.
Speaker 2: Tradition or superstition?
Speaker 3: Have any as a I mean, I think my traditions
Speaker 3: have gone by the wayside since I moved to Montana,
Speaker 3: because every hunt is kind of its own different experience.
Speaker 3: But when I was deer hunting Kentucky, my buddy and
Speaker 3: I would always buy, uh, we'd go down each weekend
Speaker 3: in November and would always go to the grocery store
Speaker 3: and buy two rotisserie chickens, would buy a thing of
Speaker 3: instant mashed potatoes, would buy a box of stovetop stuffing
Speaker 3: by jar Cranberry sauce. We would make Thanksgiving dinners. There
Speaker 3: you go all weekend and then Thanksgiving sandwiches for lunch.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that it likely figured into our success.
Speaker 2: That's good, Tish, I think I thought of one. I
Speaker 2: have some of the last Ham Special Lights in the world.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite beer, and they discontinue them a few
Speaker 2: years ago. So now I take one with me on hunts,
Speaker 2: and if I'm successful, I get to have one, you know,
Speaker 2: with that critter while I'm gutting it or cleaning it
Speaker 2: or whatever. So I get to have the last Ham
Speaker 2: Special light, you know, with a deer that I killed
Speaker 2: in Montana, or you know, an antelope I shot in Wyoming.
Speaker 2: So the Ham Special light tradition will continue for a
Speaker 2: little while.
Speaker 1: That's nice. That's very nice. I unfortunately have like you know,
Speaker 1: bonded with certain clothing items. So I have an orange
Speaker 1: hat that I really like to wear. But the problem
Speaker 1: with that is it orange fades, and there's no way
Speaker 1: it's legal at this point, and so that's a real
Speaker 1: real bummer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, blaze the orange. It's just like subjective, right, I
Speaker 2: think it really is.
Speaker 5: I think it is, and then they'll do we'll do
Speaker 5: a last sort of comment here before we choose the
Speaker 5: winner of the capture contest. Ethan says that he knows
Speaker 5: that I have a good tabletop game that I'm dming
Speaker 5: right now. Dming for the late person is it means
Speaker 5: Dungeon Master. I've only ever DM for my family, but
Speaker 5: I have tried to start kind of a whisper campaign
Speaker 5: around the office to see if anyone would be down
Speaker 5: to play some Dungeons and Dragons.
Speaker 1: Like You're You're at coffee and you're like, sorry, casta,
Speaker 1: what spell?
Speaker 6: Phil?
Speaker 3: You texted Spencer and me many many months ago asking
Speaker 3: whether it would be interested in joining your group, and
Speaker 3: I responded in the affirmative, and I believe Spencer did too.
Speaker 1: That's not true.
Speaker 5: Spencer offered up his house as a place to hang out.
Speaker 5: He was a firm no, but he would be excited
Speaker 5: to just kind of be there. Was very excited to participate.
Speaker 3: But I just recall that text exchange ending with me
Speaker 3: saying yeah, I'd gladly participate, and then there's been silence since.
Speaker 3: So this is a revelation to me. That you haven't
Speaker 3: act well.
Speaker 5: I've asked others around the office in person, such as
Speaker 5: Maggie uh hot hot Carl formerly of Theater Corporation. Both
Speaker 5: of them were kind of like Luke warmont I just
Speaker 5: haven't gotten a lot of positive uh a big positive reaction.
Speaker 5: I'm still gonna try to make it happen. Maybe we'll
Speaker 5: do like a little one shot two or three hours.
Speaker 3: Am I not enough for you?
Speaker 1: The time of years?
Speaker 2: There's food and beer I've offered, and cater and step
Speaker 2: in when Phil needs the voice of an ogre or something.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, put it pitching my support
Speaker 2: behind Phil.
Speaker 1: And I just want to point out just because I
Speaker 1: enjoy being hyper critical of certain things, I don't have
Speaker 1: to be that way all the time.
Speaker 5: I'm very aware you're one of my favorite people to
Speaker 5: see around the office. And then some people are are
Speaker 5: baffled by that.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's wrap up this caption contest. Now, can
Speaker 2: we see the photo one more time to see let's
Speaker 2: folks are.
Speaker 5: Captioning, Okay, there's.
Speaker 2: The cal across the face with a hunk of meat.
Speaker 5: Okay, so I narrowed it down to fives. A lot
Speaker 5: of you didn't make the cut. They were still very good.
Speaker 5: There was a great one that said, hey, here's a
Speaker 5: thigh five. That one made me chuckle, but unfortunately, so okay,
Speaker 5: here we go. First one is from Joe sEH, this
Speaker 5: is the caption. He's quoting Steve. It's pronounced rus belt.
Speaker 5: You know what this is kind of you know, for
Speaker 5: those of you who know Steve was very adamant about
Speaker 5: pronouncing Roosevelt Roosevelt. He's actually since done a one to
Speaker 5: eighty on this. Yes, yeah, when presented with new information,
Speaker 5: he changed his mind.
Speaker 3: But I still think this caption captures the spirit of Steve,
Speaker 3: which which is why I selected, especially it hits close
Speaker 3: to home.
Speaker 5: There was another one that said here's here's your compliment sandwich,
Speaker 5: which is also good. I thought this almost just.
Speaker 1: Edged it out a little bit.
Speaker 5: Okay, this is a classic, but you know I had
Speaker 5: to include it. I hear by night you sir Loin. Oh,
Speaker 5: come on, Joe, Yeah, this one, this one makes me
Speaker 5: laugh just reading it. Tim Miller says, snort, this shout
Speaker 5: out to the best dog. Leland says after this, it'll
Speaker 5: be Cols.
Speaker 1: Week in Review.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, that.
Speaker 5: One solid and then last one, Waffle says, I'd make
Speaker 5: a caption, but I'm afraid I'll butcher it.
Speaker 3: Getting a little metat there.
Speaker 2: That's true, Phil, what's your favorite from that list?
Speaker 5: I mean, my favorite is snort this, but I don't
Speaker 5: think that'll be the consensus.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd throw my vote behind it's pronounced Roosevelt. How
Speaker 2: about how about the others in the room.
Speaker 1: I like the simplicity of thigh five.
Speaker 5: I'll have to go back and find that user if
Speaker 5: we choose it.
Speaker 2: We have a split vote so far here, randall, are
Speaker 2: you going to pick another one off the board or
Speaker 2: go with Phil's mine or cows? It is your birthday,
Speaker 2: so I think you should decide who gets the core
Speaker 2: jacket from first.
Speaker 3: Like, oh god, that's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: That is a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: I forgot me profoundly uncomfortable on my this is my birthday.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, as we all know, king for a day,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go rogue here. Okay, out, I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: thigh five. I love it.
Speaker 1: Thigh five all great submissions, but if you guys.
Speaker 5: Want to I need to find the thigh five so
Speaker 5: we can shout that person out.
Speaker 2: Thigh five show yourself they are the winner, and to
Speaker 2: claim their prize, they're going to write an email to
Speaker 2: Radio at the medeater dot com and we will get
Speaker 2: you that core jacket. Do it right now, do it
Speaker 2: as soon as this show ends. That way, I know
Speaker 2: it's you and we don't have a thousand people claiming
Speaker 2: to be the thigh five jokester. Again, that's Radio at
Speaker 2: the meadeater dot com.
Speaker 3: You could have given me a few days and I
Speaker 3: never would have gotten the thigh five.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't search.
Speaker 5: I'm so I'm so sad that I unstarted, so I
Speaker 5: can't find it easily.
Speaker 2: So I got I got some more filler, Phil.
Speaker 3: While you do that.
Speaker 2: On next week's meat Eater, Radio will not be live
Speaker 2: because Steve and crew are recording it from Cypress Cove
Speaker 2: in Louisiana at the first Meet Eater Experience. The video
Speaker 2: will still drop on Thursday in the podcast on Friday,
Speaker 2: but again we will not be live for that one.
Speaker 2: Media to Radio. We'll return to its regular schedule on
Speaker 2: October seventeenth, And don't forget, it's white tail week right now,
Speaker 2: so head over to the mediat dot com for our
Speaker 2: best white Tail content and deals. All week, we have
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Speaker 1: Here is we should all wig in.
Speaker 3: Alexis, Tom, Alexis Thomas, congratulations Alexis.
Speaker 2: Caption contest thigh five. Alexis, you write us at radio
Speaker 2: at the mediater dot com. We're gonna get you that
Speaker 2: first light jacket.
Speaker 3: Brilliant, brilliant. That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking, uh, we can have people take
Speaker 1: bets on how much we weigh, uh before the before
Speaker 1: and after way. It's of Cypress. You're gonna eat good
Speaker 1: down there, yeah, louisianachy like they only do things two ways.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: It's cooked in butter, or is defat fried and then
Speaker 1: served with butter.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 3: Sounds lovely.
Speaker 2: All right. We will see everyone back here on October
Speaker 2: seventeenth for more Meat Eater Radio Live.
Speaker 3: Let's get lunch.