1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Smell off now, lady, Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia mea podcast. 2 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain 3 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Time on October third, and we're live from Meet Eater 4 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer new Arth, 5 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: joined today by Ryan Callahan and birthday boy Randall Williams. 6 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: Happy birthday, rand Thank you, thank you. Is it impolite 7 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: to ask how old you are? 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: Not at all? I'm thirty eight years old today, thirty 9 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: eight Now it is a button. Don't look at day 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: over sixty three? 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: What well? You got big plans for your birthday today? 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Besides Media Radio Live. 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Going out to dinner. And I was surprised this morning 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: with a very special gift from my wife, Sydney. It's 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: an annual pass to the Grizzly Encounter. Yeah, so on 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: my way back and forth to work, I can stop 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: in and visit with the. 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: Is that not kind of a sad place? No, it's 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: a happy place. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a happy place. You get real close 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: to bears and they get to eat a lot of 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: stuff in front of you. That's a good all sorts 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: of tasty fruits. Yeah, you plant. 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: You're doing anything to embrace creeping into real middle age? Randall, No, 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: you know. 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: I I think it'll come as a surprise. At often 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: we receive lots of emails here expressing shock that I 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: am not an old man. So I feel like I'm 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: Perhaps I was unaware of this, but perhaps I'm only 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: growing into the personality that I project. 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you're seven years out from a recommended colonoscopy. 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: That's something to think about. 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: He has thought about it. Yeah, yeah, you got plans 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: for a birthday lunch today. I don't Can we take 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: you out as that? 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: I'd love that. 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: Okay, you think about where we're going. You figure that 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: out By the end of the show. 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Fantastic gang. 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: It's eleven oh two mountain time, so we're gonna be 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: hungry after this. 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: I'm starve. 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: Now. On today's show, we'll interview doctor Bronson Strickland from 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: Mississippi State University about the science of whitetail buckbeds. Then 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: we'll review the two thousand and one comedy Escanaba Into 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: Moonlight for Meat Eater Movie Club, followed by one minute 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: fishing with Giannis Putellis in Louisiana. Then Corinn will educate 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: us about whitetail monogamy or the lack thereof. And finally 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: we'll interview Ryan Berman about a black bear attack that 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: ended when his twelve year old shot the bear. But first, 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: it's Whitetail Week and our best white tail content and 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: sales are happening right now over at the meadeater dot 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: com in first Light dot com, and in honor of 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: white Tail Week, we wanted to give away our favorite 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: piece of gear from the First Light Whitetail line, which 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: is the Core Jacket. The Core jacket is perfect to 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: wear from mid season to late season. It's quiet, win proof, 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: and lightweight, perfect for deer hunters across North America. So 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: here's how we're going to give this thing away. We 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: are doing a caption contest for the live viewers and 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: the live viewers only. Phil is going to pull up 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: a photo right now and people are going to write 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: their funniest captions in the chat. Then at the end 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: of the show, Phil will pick the best ones to 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: read and from that group, we'll select our favorite to 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: receive that free First Light Core Jacket. There is the 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: picture that Phil has now put up on the screen. 68 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 2: Cal you are in that photo. Tell us what's going 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: on there? 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: Ah? 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I was just so young, naive, so young, twenty eighteen, 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: whole world ahead of me. 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Uh huh, Fancer, was this your hiring ritual? 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Ah? This is uh sika deer out there in the 75 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: eastern shore of Maryland. So super super awesome public land hunting. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Actually we were on Nate your conservancy chunk out there, 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: but super tasty deer, crazy tender something about running through 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the marshes, very very awesome. And Steve as he does, 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: he's like, I've just always wanted to hit somebody with 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: a chunk of meat. It's like, because you know, just 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: think of the sound or something along those lines. 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that would be satisfying. 83 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: So this wasn't posed then, this was in fact still 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: from an action sequence. 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Right, and in typical Steve fashion, right, he does this 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: stuff while everyone else is actually doing the work, and 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: he's like, but hold on, I want everybody to stop 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: doing the work that I'm not participating in to run 89 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: through this fantastical little mind voyage. 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: He has, like going strike cow with the hind quarter. 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you can see my hands are still 92 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: a little bloody. Still got things to do. 93 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Was this a hind quarter or a front quarter here 94 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: that looks like a shold, but they're just unbelievably tiny 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: little creatures. 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: They're really like I took out a hind a dough 97 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: female by literally putting a hoof in between my fingers, 98 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: so like a little. 99 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: So the caption contest photo is from like twenty eighteen. 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: It is Steve striking cal across the face with the 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: front quarter of a skinned Sika deer. So write in 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: your best captions. At the end of the show, Phil 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: is going to read some of them, and then our 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: favorite one is going to get that first light core jacket. 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 5: You guys are Yeah, we need to put the right 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: guys in the chest. I'm best here, but you guys 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: are doing incredible so far. Some of them are not 109 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 5: safe for work. You can keep saying those ones in. 110 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 5: I'm not going to pick them. 111 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: But and we're at work, we need to point out 112 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: the lack of defensive posture on my side too. 113 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: I think happy, you look you resigned to you. 114 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: You get the first one. 115 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: So take join us for the caption contest. This is 116 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: a little treat just for the live viewers now, in 117 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: honor of white Tail Week, State Farm just released their 118 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: annual deer collision research, so I thought we should talk 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: about it. West Virginia is yet again the risky estate 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: for deer vehicle collisions. Drivers there have a one in 121 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 2: forty chance of hitting a white tail with their car. 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: The most deer vehicle collisions happen October to December, and 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: on average, Americans have a one in one hundred and 124 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight chance of hitting a deer this year. Have 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: you boys ever hit a hit a deer or an 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: elk or anything with your car? 127 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: I yeah, I was. I'd been hunting down on the 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: Madison this is probably ten or twelve years ago, and 129 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: shot a little four ky on an extremely cold day, 130 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: and I put it in the back of my hont 131 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: A Pilot and I was driving on I ninety past 132 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: Whitehall and a real stud of a buck stepped out, 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: So you floored it? Well, I did my best to 134 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: avoid it and kind of clipped the front quarter panel, 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: knocked off my side mirror, and then rolled down the 136 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: side of the vehicle, knocking out all the glass all 137 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: the way down. I spent a lot of time looking 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: for that deer. Never found it. 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: Really yep, yep, how stud of a buck. 140 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: You think he was, I mean not. You know, for me, 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: it would have been the biggest deer I'd ever killed. Well, 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 3: it probably still is the biggest tear I've ever killed. 143 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: But didn't recover it, and it. 144 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: Certainly dead though. You think he wandered off and died somewhere. 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: I was going really fast, okay, and I didn't have 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: time to apply the brakes. Yeah, but it came right 147 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: out of the median, just looking for a dough. 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: Yea smashed smashed it. So yeah, three deer, three different vehicles, 149 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three Chevy celebrity. And I didn't hit this deer. 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: He hit me. But right next to Randall's old house 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: van Buren Street exit missoula mule deer came smoking it 152 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. There used to be no fences between 153 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods and the interstate there. And yeah, he'd like 154 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: t boned perfectly dead center, t boned my little brown 155 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Grandma car. And then uh yeah, smashed the front right 156 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: panel on my two thousand and what it was it 157 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: ninety three Toyota Tacoma. And then in my Chevy, I 158 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: whacked a dough in Idaho coming across the desert mule 159 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: deer dough felt real bad. 160 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: I've now hit two deer with pickups in both times. 161 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: One time he was on my way to go hunting 162 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: in the morning, the other time he was on my 163 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: way home from hunting in the evening. 164 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: So there's something very poetic prime rut that there's science there. 165 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: Moving on, Joining us on the line first is doctor 166 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: Bronson Strickland from Mississippi State University. This winter, his team 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: wrapped up a study on whitetail buckbeds that busted a 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: lot of myths about whitetail behavior. Doctor Strickland. Welcome to 169 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: the show. 170 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Hello, glad to be here. 171 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 6: Thanks so much for the opportunity. 172 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: First off, tell us how the study was conducted and 173 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: what you were hoping to learn. 174 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it really began the overarching question from our 175 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 6: state wildlife agency, the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks, 176 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 6: was getting feedback from hunters wanting to know where the 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 6: bucks are going during hunting season. And so we've seen 178 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 6: a buck all summer, we've got photos of a buck, 179 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 6: and then where does it go? And so that led 180 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 6: us to work with the state agency and attach a 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 6: bunch of GPS callers to about sixty different bucks over 182 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 6: two years, and that's where it began. The overall purpose 183 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: of the study too, was to look at what is 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: the impact of hunting pressure throughout the year, and how 185 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 6: are buck's going to change their behavior and might we 186 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 6: find any solutions there? So that was really the big 187 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 6: picture question that we began with, and then that moved 188 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 6: into a lot of other questions and and one of 189 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 6: those was regarding buck betting. 190 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: So, yeah, what do we learn about buck beds from 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: that study? 192 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 6: Well, I am going to share some information with you 193 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 6: now to answer that question. 194 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: Let's see, Doctor Strickland's got some slides he's going to 195 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 5: present for us right now. He's just going to pull 196 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: those up really quick. 197 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: There we go, all right, okay, So first of all, 198 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 6: we wanted to how do we define what a betting 199 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 6: site is. So remember, we've got all of these bucks 200 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 6: have a GPS collar on them, and we're getting a 201 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: location from them every fifteen minutes, and so this data 202 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 6: set is so large. Keep in mind this you can't 203 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 6: really do this by hand. You have to do it 204 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 6: with computer code. And so we went in to the 205 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 6: data set and every time we had four or more 206 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 6: consecutive points that did not have more than a twenty 207 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 6: yard radius with their span. And so remember even with 208 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 6: the GPS caller, the points are not exactly precise. There's 209 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 6: some error in those locations, but we define that as 210 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 6: twenty yards. So every time we got four consecutive points 211 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 6: or an hour's worth of points less than twenty yards, 212 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 6: we concluded that that was a bedsite. And of course 213 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 6: we excluded if deer were out in a food plot 214 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 6: at night or an agricultural field at night, we excluded those. 215 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 6: So we kept this in our forested cover. Next, we 216 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 6: wanted to look at not just the bed site, but 217 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 6: a general area that they may be. So this would 218 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: be one or more betting sites that are distinctly different, 219 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 6: and so you could have several betting sites within one 220 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 6: hundred yard radius that would be a betting area. And 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 6: then we calculated all of the betting sites and all 222 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: of the betting areas throughout two different hunting seasons. And 223 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 6: then we wanted to get some insight on what are 224 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 6: the impacts for strategies for hunting. What we found out 225 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: is that contrary to a lot of beliefs, is that 226 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 6: there is a tremendous amount of diversity in the number 227 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: of beds that they're using throughout the hunting season. Now, 228 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: if we just look at this on a daily scale, 229 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 6: hunting season for US is October first to January thirty first. 230 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 6: On the average, a buck is gonna bed four times 231 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 6: a day. Some of those are going to be during 232 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 6: daylight hours. Two of those bets are going to be 233 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 6: at night. But then when we get close to the 234 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 6: hunting season, and if we break the rut out into 235 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 6: two week intervals fourteen day intervals, and we go from 236 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 6: the pre rut two week interval to the early rut, 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 6: the peak of the rut, late rut, and post rut, 238 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 6: we see that these betting sites number around fifty fifty 239 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 6: different betting sites per buck during this two week period. 240 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 6: So it is a very very different from what we've 241 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 6: always thought that the buck is just going to use 242 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 6: one or two three places on the landscape, which, of course, 243 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 6: from a hunting perspective is great. If we if they 244 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 6: only have a couple places on the landscape they're betting, 245 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: that gives us the advantage on setting up on them 246 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 6: in the afternoon. 247 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: So the takeaway then would be that hunters you know, 248 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: should think of betting areas as a diverse group of 249 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: sites instead of just one little bedroom where a buck beds. 250 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: But what does this mean for land managers as well? 251 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: If somebody has a piece of property and they're thinking 252 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: about how they can make this more whitetail friendly. Did 253 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: your study tell you anything about that? 254 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 6: Well, well it did, and the take home message for that, 255 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 6: I would say would be proactive, meaning that if you're 256 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 6: in a landscape like we're at where there is a 257 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 6: lot of cover distributed all over the landscape. The landscape 258 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 6: we're out here is about fifty percent agriculture fifty percent forested. 259 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: So if there is a way that you can go 260 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 6: in as a hundred manager and proactively manage the habitat 261 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 6: to have a better betting area for deer, we can 262 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 6: potentially drive them to those areas. And so again being 263 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: proactive about habitat management so where we can steer deer 264 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 6: to bed more often than that could put the advantage 265 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 6: in for the hunter and for the land manager. 266 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: That was the betting behavior pretty consistent across the test group, 267 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: or where there's some extreme outliers. 268 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 6: There were some extreme outliers. Let me show you here 269 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 6: what we call fidelity during the hunting season. So this 270 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 6: is just a different way of looking at the same data. 271 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 6: If we look at a betting area and how often 272 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 6: they were visited throughout the year, fifty percent of betting 273 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: areas were visited one time, one and done. The other 274 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 6: end of the continuum is that we have very rarely 275 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 6: some sites and it's less than three percent of them 276 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 6: are visited more than two hundred times throughout the hunting season. 277 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 6: So it's not something you can rely on. You're going 278 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: to have to use trail camera data observations like that 279 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 6: to try to figure out what are these very very 280 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 6: few places where bucks are going to visit more often. 281 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 6: If you want to see real world how this looks, 282 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 6: check out this video that's over a two week period. 283 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 6: This is a three year old buy. This is the 284 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 6: two weeks prior to the peak of the rut. The 285 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: area that you're looking there is roughly a square mile 286 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 6: about six hundred acres, and so when you look at that, 287 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 6: try to imagine how am I going to determine where 288 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 6: he's betted and how am I going to set up 289 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 6: on him? And in my opinion, in this landscape for 290 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 6: this particular deer. That's virtually impossible. And so when we 291 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 6: look at that data again, those blue dots there are 292 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: all the betting sites over that two week period. All 293 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 6: the red dots there are the betting areas, and you 294 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 6: can see that that is spread out over a six 295 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 6: hundred acre area over two weeks. So it's going to 296 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 6: be very, very difficult to zero in exactly where he's at. 297 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: If you're watching this on YouTube, you'll get to see 298 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: some real data on how these bucks use this landscape. 299 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Last question here, you were doing this study in a 300 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: place that was fifty percent timber fifty percent egg. How 301 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: do you think this would apply to hunters if you're 302 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: in the New England area and you hunt a place 303 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: it's ninety five percent timber, or if you're in Iowa 304 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: and you hunt a place that's that's ten percent timber. 305 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: How do you think this study applies to those hunters. 306 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're right in the middle. I think 307 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 6: if you were in the New England area, you're going 308 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 6: to see even more different betting areas and betting sites. 309 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 6: And of course if you're in a cover restricted environment 310 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 6: like Iowa or the Midwest, you would see greater fidelity 311 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 6: to some of these sites because there's not as many 312 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 6: options on the landscape. So I think you just have 313 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 6: to look at what is available, do your homework with 314 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 6: trail cameras, and try to sort this stuff out. But again, 315 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 6: you know the one thing you can do about being 316 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 6: proactive is go out and manage the landscape to optimize 317 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: cover where it's at, and that will give you a leg. 318 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: Up on hunting. 319 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: Doctor Strickland talked about this subject more in depth, as 320 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: well as some other research that whitetail hunters will care 321 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: about with Mark Kenyon on episode eight two three of 322 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: Wired to Hunt. Every deer hunter should go. Give that 323 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: a listen, Doctor Strickland, thanks for joining us and come 324 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: back next time. You guys got some new white tail 325 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: research that you're excited about. 326 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely, thanks so much. 327 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 3: Thank you. 328 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: The only thing I could think about there is a 329 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: name like Bronson Strickland. Yeah, like he probably in the 330 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: peer review process. He just reviews his own paper, right. Yeah, 331 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: It's like nobody argues with Bronson Strickland. 332 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: That's a Mississippi State university. 333 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: His fas got together and they were like, listen, there's 334 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: cute names. Yep, they're strong names. We're going strong. Yeah, 335 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: setting this kid up for success. 336 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: We're going dear biologists. Name in the South's in Strickland. 337 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: All right. 338 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: Our next segment data It's gospel. 339 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: The last thing I'm gonna say. 340 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: Our next segment is meat Eater Movie Club. This week 341 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: we're reviewing the two thousand and one comedy Escanaba Into Moonlight. 342 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: Escanaba Into Moonlight, written directed by, and starring Jeff Daniels, 343 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: is a quirky nineteen ninety Oh, excuse me, it's not 344 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one. It's two thousand, thousand one comedy that 345 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: delves into the peculiar world of deer hunting culture in 346 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: Michigan's Upper Peninsula. The film follows Ruben Sodi, a forty 347 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: three year old man desperate to break his family's curse 348 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: of being the oldest Sodi never to bag a buck. 349 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: At its core, Escanaba is a tale about a man's 350 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: struggle to find his place within family and community. Ruben's 351 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: desperation to shoot a deer speaks to a large anxiety 352 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: about living up to societal expectations and maintaining relevance in 353 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: a world where traditional markers of manhood are increasingly questioned. 354 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: The film, setting in the remote wilderness of the Upper Peninsula, 355 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: serves as both a character in itself and a metaph 356 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: for the character's isolation from mainstream society. This backtop amplifies 357 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: the sense of a world onto itself where ancient rituals 358 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: and modern anxieties collide in often absurd ways. Now, if 359 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: you'll indulge me for a moment, it is my birthday. 360 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to humor myself. Take us out into left 361 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: field here. Clifford Gearts's nineteen seventy three book The Interpretation 362 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: of Cultures includes an essay widely regarded as his seminal work, 363 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: Deep Play, Notes on the Balinese Cockfight. In this piece, Geartz, 364 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: who for second world decades stood as the single most 365 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: influential cultural anthropologist in the United States, provides a vivid 366 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: description of his year long nineteen fifty eight stay in 367 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: an Indonesian village the practices of cockfighting and gambling. On cockfighting, 368 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: then illegal in Indonesia, Geetz identifies as a ritual that 369 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: best explains Balanese society. Here, I'll read an excerpt from 370 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: Gears with a few changes of my own to anchor 371 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: his analysis within the framework of Escanaba in de moonlight. 372 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: Oh what a tree. 373 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: What sets deer hunting apart from the ordinary course of life, 374 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: lifts it from the realm of everyday practical affairs and 375 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: surrounds it with an aura of enlarged importance. Is not 376 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: as a functional as society would have it, that it 377 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: reinforces status, but that it provides a metasocial commentary upon 378 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 3: the whole matter of assorting human beings into fixed hierarchical ranks, 379 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: and then organizing the major part of collective existence around 380 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: that assortment. What the deer hunt says, it says in 381 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: a vocabulary of sentiment, the thrill of risk, the despair 382 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: of loss, the pleasure of triumph. Yet what it says 383 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: is not merely that risk is exciting, lost depressing, or 384 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: triumph gratifying. But it is of these emotions thus exampled, 385 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 3: that society is built and individuals are put together. If 386 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: we go to see Macbeth to learn what a man 387 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: feels like after he has gained a kingdom and lost 388 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: his soul, upers go to deer camp to find out 389 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: what a man, usually composed aloof and almost obsessively self absorbed, 390 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: feels like when he has totally triumphed or been brought 391 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: totally low. Every people. The proverb has it loves its 392 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 3: own form of violence. The deer hunt is the uper's 393 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: reflection on theirs, on its look, its uses, its force, 394 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: its fascination. Drawing on almost every level of yuper experience, 395 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: alcohol consumption, ucher, spam based cuisine, and most importantly, big 396 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: old bucks, the deer camp binds them into a set 397 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: of rules which at once contains them and allows them 398 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: to play, and builds a symbolic structure in which, over 399 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 3: and over again, the reality of their inner yuper affiliation 400 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: can be intelligibly felt. Now, to put a finer point 401 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: on this, the parallels between the Balinese cockfight and deer 402 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: camp traditions highlight how both activities serve as windows into 403 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: their respective cultures. They show how seemingly irrational or exaggerated 404 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: behaviors can have profound meaning within their cultural context. Like 405 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: the Balanese cockfight, the deer camp's hierarchies and traditions mirror 406 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: the larger social order of the community. Like the cockfight, 407 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: the stakes are so high in this pastime that participation 408 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: in it seems irrational to outsiders. At the same time, 409 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: Like the Balinese cockfight, the deer camp takes place in 410 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: a liminal space, on the margins of community, where day 411 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: to day norms are suspended and new identities can be forged, reinforced, 412 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: or destroyed. The bucklass uper At deer Camp, new social 413 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: standings are both contested and affirmed. The potential loss for 414 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: Reuben continued shame and ostracism far out weigh any practical gain, 415 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 3: yet his participation remains essential for his own identity and 416 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 3: social standing. Thus, the Sody family deer hunt is not 417 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: just about killing an animal, but it in fact is 418 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: a rich tapestry of meanings, masculinity, family legacies, connections to nature, 419 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: and cultural identity. It has its own languages, rituals, and mythologies. 420 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: In conclusion, viewing Escanaba and to Moonlight through a Girzian 421 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: lens reveals it to be more than a ninety minute 422 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: film with a ten minute long scene involving an elaborate 423 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 3: effort to get a sleeping man to fart directly on 424 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: the face of another. It becomes a rich text for 425 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: understanding how ritual and cultural practice embody and reinforce social structures, 426 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: identity in world worldviews. In a specific cultural context. The 427 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: film presents a humorous yet poignant commentary on the human 428 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 3: need for belonging and achievement and the universal desire to 429 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: prove one's worth and find meaning and seemingly arbitrary pursuits. 430 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: So wow, that's my take. 431 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: That was very academic for a movie where there's a 432 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: scene where a fart blows the windows off a cabin. 433 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: For a long time, my trivia team went by the 434 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: name Balinese Cockfight. 435 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's just amazing to, you know, bring 436 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: this into real world context, that all of that can 437 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: get boiled down to the outsider with the question of 438 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: so did you get a deer? 439 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: Oh? I think there's much more to it than that. 440 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: And for my factoid before I ask you for your impressions, Yep, 441 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: Jeff Daniels is a Michigan He's from Chelsea, Michigan, and 442 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: he wrote this play be performed at the theater in 443 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: Chelsea that he built. Chelsea, Michigan is home of Jiffy Mix, 444 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: the cornbread mixture which we all love. And among the 445 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: various interesting facts I found about the creation of this film, 446 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: Ted Nugent Supply, a fellow Michian Michigan supplied props to 447 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: be used in the hunting camp. So there's a real 448 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: authenticity there that's good. So thoughts on the film. 449 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: I think my takeaway is that like, if you white 450 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: tail hunt in the north Woods, you like this movie. 451 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: But if you're a bass angler from Georgia or like 452 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: an elkhunter from Utah, I wouldn't say it's a must 453 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: watch for you. 454 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, or just like somebody who watches TV, you're probably 455 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, didn't need that. 456 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you watch Did you watch this by yourself 457 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: or did Shelby screen it with you? 458 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: My wife was around yeah, about five minutes and she's like, oh, 459 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: this is kind of funny, and I was like, yeah, 460 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: it's like it's a comedy. 461 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 7: You know. 462 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: It's Jeff Dane Daniels who wrote it, started it, directed it, 463 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: But I didn't know what to expect. I had never 464 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: seen it before. 465 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 3: I've never seen it either. Sydney asked that I turn 466 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: it off last night and we instead watched Love Is Blind, 467 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: And then I started watching it again this morning at 468 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: home over fresh pot of coffee, and she asked that 469 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 3: we not have it on anymore, and so I finished 470 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: it here this morning at about eight o'clock. 471 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: So very good it does. 472 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: I think it will find a mixed reception among diverse audiences. Yeah. 473 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: I love Jeff Daniels. I think he's extremely talented, and I, 474 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, hats off to him that he could slip 475 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: a passion project through. 476 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, this really did feel like a passion project, like 477 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: a love letter to Michigan deer hunting culture. I'm curious, 478 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 3: from your perspectives as outdoorsman, what about this movie rang 479 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: true to you? 480 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 6: You know? 481 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: I love that it's a movie about the social pressure 482 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: that comes with a deer camp. That's a real thing, 483 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: and then this movie took it to like the millionth extreme. 484 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 2: I also liked that it felt very Michigan because it 485 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: was filmed in Michigan. They were drinking Lining Google, a 486 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: beer that's brewed in Wisconsin. They talked about the commemorative 487 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: bucks of Michigan, which is a real thing that folks 488 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: in that part of the world care about. They're playing uker, 489 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: which is a deer camp staple in the Northwoods, and 490 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: they're eating pasties, which is a very Michigan food. So 491 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: I enjoyed all of those little nods to, you know, 492 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: people from that part of the world, and I think about, like, 493 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: my favorite TV show ever is Deadwood, and Deadwood was 494 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: made for me. I'm not saying it's the best show ever, 495 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: but it's my favorite show because it's like about, you know, 496 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: my favorite time in history in one of my favorite 497 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: places in the country. And if you are someone who 498 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: hunts deer in Michigan, you would probably have a similar response. 499 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: I think to this movie. They're like, oh, this was 500 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: made for me. I really like this thing. 501 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: I like that you pick up on the social pressure 502 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: as theme because it is blown up so so much 503 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: that it's hard to understand that that's really what it is. Sure, 504 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: and if you're in deer camp, it's okay if nobody's 505 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: getting deer, and it's okay if everybody's getting deer, but 506 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: it's really not okay if a couple of people are 507 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: getting dere and nobody else is. 508 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: Right, or if you're the only one right. 509 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed in his fevered dream, the uh the 510 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: scene where he sees he's at the football game and 511 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: he sees the scoreboard and it's real men ninety five 512 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: and then him zero. His dream, I thought revealed a 513 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: lot about the Anxieties of a Deer Hunter. 514 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was released in two thousand and one, 515 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: but I think it's supposed to be in like nineteen 516 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: eighty nine. 517 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: November fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine. He wrote the play it was. 518 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: It was initially written as a play and he wrote 519 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: that in ninety six. What I thought was very strange. 520 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: And this is sort of off topic, but it feels 521 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: like it was made in nineteen eighty three, like two 522 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: thousand and one, Just you know, to keep this in mind, 523 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: this film was released six hundred and forty six days 524 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: after The Matrix was released. Oh if you think about 525 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: The Matrix as sort of a moment of rupture in 526 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: modern filmmaking, yeah, this, I mean, it's almost incomprehensible that 527 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: this was a two thousand and one release. 528 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: Time pieces that are old always like put my brain 529 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: in a pratzel. I remember being a kid and seeing 530 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: Greece and like not being able to grasp that it 531 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: was released in like the late seventies, but it's about 532 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: the early fifties and not really knowing like where that felt, 533 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: where that fell in the world when it came out. 534 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 2: And it's sort of the same thing with this like 535 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: a two thousand and one movie about the late eighties, 536 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: but like you said, it felt like it was the 537 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: early eighties. 538 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it. I mean, I think all of the 539 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: vehicles they're driving, and all the gun they have, and 540 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: then the references to like the Macinaw Bridge and all 541 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: these Like at one point he calls I think people 542 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: from the Lower Peninsula fudge suckers, which is a reference 543 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: to like macinaw is very famous for its fudge. I 544 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: just I don't think I've ever seen a film that 545 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: is so deeply embedded and has all these specific cultural 546 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: touch points that just like rang true throughout. 547 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: A racial slur that was used, you know, three or 548 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 2: four times. 549 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, the sort of kitchy sort of parody of 550 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: Native American traditions. Yeah, was a little I don't know, 551 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about that. 552 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's another deer camp thing, right, Oh yeah, 553 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: generational inside jokes. Yeah, and that's what the movie is. 554 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: What about it did not hit with you. 555 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: There's a surprising lack of deer hunting for a movie 556 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: about deer hunting. He doesn't even go deer hunting until 557 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: like the eighty second minute of a ninety three minute movie, 558 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: and that deer hunting scene is just like him running 559 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: after a glowing orb in the woods. And so I 560 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: was expecting much more like sitting in deer blinds and 561 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: being cold and crapping in the woods and oiling guns 562 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: than just like you know, sitting in the deer cab 563 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: in the day before opener. 564 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, although I in some respect, my relationship with deer 565 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: hunting or hunting in general is ninety six percent leading 566 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: up to it and then four percent actually doing it. Yeah, 567 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: maybe that's a larger commentary on our obsessive pursuits of 568 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: these things. 569 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: The other thing was that it was it was written 570 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: like a play, like you when you know that. I 571 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: knew that ahead of time because we had a trivia 572 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: question about this recently. It feels like a one act play. 573 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: And I would like this script a whole lot better 574 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: if I watched it like as a play in a 575 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: theater in Michigan. And it felt very similar to Rocky 576 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: Horror Pictures Show, which also has like a weird cult following, 577 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: and it's a very weird movie where things happen that 578 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: you don't expect, and it's it was written as a 579 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: play that became a movie and you sort of feel 580 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: that too when you watch Rocky Horror Picture Show. I 581 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: think the same thing went with Eskinabin The Moonlight. I 582 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: would enjoy this much more. Uh if Phil was on 583 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: a stage playing Ruben Sodi. 584 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: I have to say I was thinking about that quite 585 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: a bit, if we could do our own little production 586 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: in Bozeman here. 587 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: But also, didn't you kind of think about what Spencer 588 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: left out about his grease experience. Was that like he 589 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: kind of had probably like a little doop phase Spencer. 590 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: I think about that his his love blossoming for musical theater. 591 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: Listen, I love theater. I won a one act play 592 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: award in high school Outstanding Actor award. Wow, so you're 593 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: really lucky critical I held I held season tickets to 594 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: theater when I lived in Sioux Falls. I've been to 595 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: probably like a Broadway shows. I've probably been to twenty 596 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: shows off of Broadway. I enjoy theater, and Phil thinks 597 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: that I go there to support him when I go 598 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: to you know, a musical and Bozeman. But I'm just 599 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm just there on my own. 600 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: You should have just. 601 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: I have seen here in the comments that someone may 602 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 3: made a note about the subtitles. I don't know if 603 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: you watched it with the subtitle, Oh, it's fabulous, because 604 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: it's just unintelligible and and they can't get the name 605 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: right Sody, So if you're watching it with the SoundOff, 606 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: you think that they're talking about the Saudis the whole time. 607 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: It's just like, it's like the Saudis, the Saudi's crap 608 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: so big they have to climb off the pile or 609 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's like it's a very different movie 610 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: with the subtitles. 611 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing all at all? 612 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: Is this going to make your list of recommendations to 613 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: fellow hunters? 614 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: Uh? 615 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: To me, it was like barely a movie about deer honey. 616 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: It could have been about, you know, shooting pool eracing cars. 617 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 2: But if you're like a north Woods deer hunter, if 618 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: you like gulump in that area, I think you'll like it. 619 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: I did say three stars. That's that's my three story. 620 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 6: I think. 621 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: The only. 622 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I really don't have a movie that I would be like, Oh, 623 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: you're interested in hunting, here's a feature film you should watch. 624 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: It'd be Jeremiah Johnson would be like the closest thing, like, oh, 625 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: here's some outdoor stuff. 626 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: So that's a zero from you. 627 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not okay. Yeah, I think it was just 628 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: a bad question. 629 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: I will say, Oh, so you just disagree with the 630 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: premise of the segment. I I love this segment personally. 631 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: I will say, if I if we could somehow acquire 632 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: the intellectual property, I'd love to remake this movie, uh 633 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 3: in in the style of another adaptation of a stage play, 634 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: which is Glengarry Glenn Ross and just have that, Like 635 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: it's also about men seeking h They're just desperate men 636 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: trying to reach out and sort of avoid their own 637 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: personal failures, you know, through through getting the Glengarry leads. Yeah, 638 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: like a dark deer camp, Phil would be fantastic. 639 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve angry men right up there with us. 640 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: With that, I think I've probably used up all the 641 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: time for this segment. 642 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love me movie clubs. 643 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: Oh it's the best, so. 644 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: Fun, especially when it's Randall's birthday. I think he's bringing 645 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: a little extra heat. 646 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: I did treat myself to a few extra words in 647 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 3: my commentary. 648 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: So all right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil, 649 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: what does the chant have to say? 650 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see here. See Cornelia says a comment more 651 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 5: about Cal's mustache. Everyone should take mustache notes from Cal. 652 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: Rule one. 653 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 5: Don't touch a just trim or do anything to said state. 654 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 5: Let it grow. Step two repeat step one. Cal, do 655 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 5: you have any mustache care, grooming tips or any routine 656 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 5: because some people were comparing your mustache to Spencer's and 657 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 5: saying that you could actually take tips from Spencer about 658 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 5: stash grooming, and I thought you might take offense to that. 659 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 5: I kind of want to just stoke the FH. 660 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: No, no offense to each their own. 661 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm just got different styles. 662 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: Right In a state like Montana, where it's very dry, 663 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: your hair gets real brittle and it just chips off 664 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: and falls off out. So why even just does it 665 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: on its own? But if you have a lot of 666 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: extra time in your day, like Spencer does to do 667 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: self rooming, you can go that route route too. I'm 668 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: not You're just better at time management, is what I'm saying, 669 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: time management compliment. 670 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: What you don't know is I shaved about three minutes 671 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: before walking out the door this morning. It was almost 672 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: five o'clock. Shadow version of this. 673 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: In honor of white Tail Week, what is the crew's 674 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: favorite piece? A first light white tail gear that's from Nathan. 675 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: I love the hand muff. I use that thing all 676 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: year round. I use it when I'm white tail hunting. 677 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: I use it when I'm archery hunting, rifle hunting, ice fishing, 678 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: turkey hunt. The hand muff is like incredibly versatile. Anybody 679 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: could could use one of those, and it's it's like 680 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: pretty inexpensive. You'll use it for a lot of your 681 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 2: year when it's cold out. The white tail hand muff. 682 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: Everything you buy in the Spector pattern, which is this 683 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: pattern that we're rocking right here, goes a percentage of 684 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: that goes to National Deer Alliance, part of our CAMO 685 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: for Conservation program, which is super awesome. Not a lot 686 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: of companies do that, and so you know, buy something 687 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: inspector and support NBA. 688 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: I haven't been able to come up with a favorite 689 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: piece of media or First Light whitetail gear because I'm 690 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: wondering if Nathan here is a plant from our friends 691 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: at First Light. 692 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Randa is saying that this Jackie might be asy around. 693 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 3: Jack I do like this jacket quite a bit. This 694 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: is the Phase jacket and it's a nice it's a 695 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: nice fleece fits well. Get some good pockets. I like 696 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: the lining. It's very warm, which is perfect for a 697 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 3: podcast studio that already runs a little hot, so very comfortable. 698 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: Whatever you do, start with good bass layers. You got 699 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: buy marine o wool. 700 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: Just like with that hand muff. You'll use that on 701 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 2: all your outdoor adventures. 702 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: Exactly more bang for your buck. All right, this kind 703 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: of a double entendre Phil Hey to get that. That's right, 704 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: plus pears. 705 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, last one we'll get to some housekeeping. Garrett's asking 706 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 5: how willing are you guys to eat fish from small 707 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 5: ponds lakes in cities, example Glenn Lakes, which is Bozeman 708 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 5: Beach here in Bozeman, the main tributary is Bozeman Creek, 709 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 5: which run straight under the city. Seems a bit radioactive, thoughts. 710 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: I would consult your local Fish and Game agency slash 711 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: public health authority. I know that when we went to 712 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: ann Arbor, we considered perhaps eating This was before we 713 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,240 Speaker 3: decided on a golf course pond, but we considered eating 714 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: some fish, and uh, nothing from that county. I think 715 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 3: is recommended that it that it be eaten. 716 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: So I think unless you're pregnant, you're probably okay. I 717 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: I probably am not eating anything from the Glen Lakes 718 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: in Bozeman, But if I didn't have a few walleye 719 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 2: in my freeze right now, i'd probably think differently. 720 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: Cal small, fast growing fish. You're you're pretty much okay. 721 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Remember the solution to pollution is dilution. So yeah, high water, uh, 722 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: and uh, little lakes like that. You know, I don't 723 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: think the nasty particulate is in the water column. It's 724 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: it's settled, so you should be just fine. 725 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: One more time before we move on here, Phil, can 726 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: you pull up the photo that we're using for the 727 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: caption contest in case anybody joined us late. We have 728 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: a caption. 729 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: Contest really quick. Uh, Shelby Huber says it up, Spencer, 730 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 5: you ate a goldfish. 731 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: That's a good point. You can watch that on season two. 732 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: A pardon my plate, We ate a goldfish that I 733 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 2: caught from an hoa pond in Bozeman. She got me there. 734 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the here's the captain contest. We've already I'm 735 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 5: already having trouble filtering through them. There are so many 736 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 5: good ones. I think I'm down to like seven right now. Wow, 737 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 5: you know that there are some really good ones that 738 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 5: are just not going to make the top five. I 739 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 5: apologize just how this stuff works, but thanks for right 740 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 5: no man. But here here's the photo again. First, right 741 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 5: the caption. 742 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: Phil is going to read the best comments that our 743 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: live viewers, right, and at the end of the show, 744 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 2: we're going to pick our favorite one and give that 745 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: person a first light core jack. 746 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 5: And really quick spencer before we move on. This is 747 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 5: an announcement for next week's episode of Meat Eater Live. 748 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 5: Like I don't know, ninety percent of the company's slash 749 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 5: crew is going to be in Venice, Louisiana for Meat 750 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 5: Eater Experiences next week. So Meat Eater Radio Live will 751 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 5: not be live next week. It will be pre recorded. 752 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 5: We're still going to try to live stream the pre 753 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 5: recorded video, so you guys can hang out in the 754 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 5: live chat if you would like to, but that fully 755 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 5: depends on the kind of upload speeds we get down 756 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 5: there and our internet connection. 757 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 7: Uh. 758 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 5: If we cannot live stream, it will still be uploaded 759 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 5: onto our YouTube channel at eleven am Mountain Standard time 760 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 5: next Thursday. 761 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you Phil. Speaking of Venice, Louisiana, our next 762 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: guest is joining us from there for one minute fishing. 763 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 5: Oh I was too busy trying to add Yannis, I 764 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 5: forgot to play the song did did. 765 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 8: I feel lucky? 766 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: We'll do you punk, go ahead make my cast. One 767 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's 768 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish, 769 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars 770 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is 771 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: Giannis Poutellis, who's on the Mississippi River near Venice, Louisiana, 772 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: and he's fishing for a donation to Captains for Clean Water. Yanni, 773 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Thanks sho. 774 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, Spencer? 775 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 4: I was gonna do the Billfish Foundation, but you go 776 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 4: ahead and pick where my U. 777 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: Forget. 778 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: I said that fishing. Yanni's fishing for a donation to 779 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: the Billfish Foundation. Yanni, is it raining there? 780 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 8: What is the question? 781 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 2: Is it raining there? It looks like you're in some 782 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: bad weather. 783 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 4: It is rain, and we're all suited up. It's been 784 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 4: beautiful last two days. 785 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 8: But of course, for when our little. 786 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 4: Year experience is gonna start, we're gonna have rain for 787 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 4: a couple of days, but it's not gonna slow us down. 788 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 4: The fish are already wet. 789 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 8: They don't care. 790 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 4: They're still gonna eat. 791 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm here with Brene Cross. 792 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 4: He's the owner here of Cypruscoot Marina and he's been 793 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 4: a big part of setting up this whole experiences deal 794 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 4: that we're about to do. And you know you've been 795 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 4: asking me about if I'm gonna be confident or can 796 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: I do one minute fishing. It wasn't until yesterday when 797 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 4: I was here at the cleaning table. We're no two 798 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 4: days ago, and uh, the guys are pitching carcasses off 799 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 4: the edge here and there's a literal feeding frenzy that 800 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 4: happens right next to the fish cleaning table. Whoa, it's 801 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: not quite as easy as let's say, a pond behind 802 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 4: the office building and Bozeman, it should be pretty good. Rey, 803 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 4: you need to add, well, I guarantee you one thing 804 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: about pouring down range so fish don't get up on 805 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 4: the platforms and they don't ply my fall land. 806 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 9: So they're still right there and they still got to eat. 807 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Yanni, you said that there is a feeding 808 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 2: frenzy happening, But what fish is doing this feeding frenzy. 809 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: Type of Uh, it looks like it's mostly hardhead catfish. 810 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 4: We did see a guy actually just twenty minutes to 811 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 4: go full out some kind of a. 812 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: Jack jack pravel jack. 813 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 9: And the salt water is coming up into the river 814 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 9: systems right now, and with it comes all of the 815 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 9: salt water fish. Uh, because normally this is Mississippi River 816 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 9: is fresh water. So at this time of year, the 817 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 9: swamp saltwater goes all the way up to the city, 818 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 9: if you all, it's literally and so with it comes 819 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 9: the that prevailed redfish. Everything is up in the river now. 820 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 4: That's because the Mississippi River is low correct, so the tide 821 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: or the ocean can actually push saltwater back against the current. 822 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 823 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 9: And we're we're actually building a barrier about twenty miles 824 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 9: north of here to slow down the saltwater intrusion into 825 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 9: the city New Orleans, because we get all our water systems. 826 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 6: From all of our water supply. 827 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 9: Comes from the Mississippi River and it is treated. So 828 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 9: we're trying to they're trying to keep it out of 829 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 9: the city New Orleans because we want it down here. 830 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 2: All right, Yanni, you tell us, you tell us what 831 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 2: your strategy is for being successful here, and then we'll 832 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 2: get to fishing, well. 833 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 8: I'll show you. And this is what I got. 834 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,919 Speaker 4: This is a chunk of it's left over tuna from 835 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 4: the tuna that we caught yesterday offshore from about eight 836 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 4: to make a yellow fit. I'm still full from all 837 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 4: the sashimia I last night, but uh, it's just real, 838 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 4: real base they cooked with the big old chuck of 839 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 4: meat on it, and then I got it under a barber. 840 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: My biggest hurdle right now is gonna be the fact 841 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 4: that Renee gave me a bait caster limited experience when 842 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 4: a bait cast burn. A bait caster knows there's a 843 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of bird the birds nests that 844 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 4: come from bycastle, so I don't have to cast far. 845 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 4: We pre fished it so we know that there's something 846 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 4: that's gonna fight. 847 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 7: Uh. 848 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: And then Renee is actually gonna. 849 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 4: Make a cast too with a much heavier rig, but 850 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 4: just a jig head with with a chunk of fish 851 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 4: on it. But he's got it all like forty pound 852 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 4: tests just in case he hooks into a one of those. 853 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: Jacks, Rebel, then we can pull it in faster because. 854 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 4: The guy that was here earlier pulling that jack can 855 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 4: ballot took him thirty minutes to land that pitch. 856 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you may hook something, but 857 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: you're not gonna land for the segment. 858 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 4: So that was the question I had. I have to 859 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 4: have the fish landed within a minute. 860 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: Just hook up, hook up, and within a minute, and 861 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: then we'll give you all the time you need to 862 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 2: fight that thing and get it to shore. 863 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. Spencer hooks 864 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: one of those jacks. 865 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 4: You guys got to come back to us in fifteen. 866 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: Minutes, okay, okay. So for the first time ever, in 867 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: one minute fishing history, we have two anglers. They are 868 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: using cut bait. You're Venice, Louisiana, Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, go 869 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: for it. Well, the clock will start. The clock will 870 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: start as soon as you take your first cast. 871 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 4: What it's gonna fall off? 872 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 2: Yanni is rehooking his cut bait. He was not ready 873 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: for this cut bait. Oh, he's adding more cut bait. Okay. 874 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: I would be real satisfied if he gives us a 875 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: bird's nest on this first cast. 876 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, bold move fold move. 877 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 2: Here, Yanni. How close are we to being ready? This 878 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 2: is this is the one minute segment. We're ready, Yes, 879 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: we are, they are. They are in the marina here. 880 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: I think we can see a lot of boats in 881 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 2: the background. 882 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 3: You gotta love fishing at a fish cleaning table. 883 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 2: Goes Okay, they have just made their first cast. The 884 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 2: one minute starts. 885 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 3: Now did he hook up it? 886 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 2: No way? 887 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 8: Yeah? 888 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: Does he have one? 889 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 6: Yeah? 890 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: This is incredible. My timer got to ten seconds and 891 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: they both talk. 892 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 3: Oh that's that's. 893 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 2: What else? 894 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 7: Do you? 895 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 2: What do you got there, Yanni? Are these the hardhead catfish? Okay, 896 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: they're scrambling. They're looking to make another cast. 897 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 5: I don't know how much I can hear us right 898 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 5: now too. We've got a rough connection on top of 899 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 5: rain catfish. 900 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 4: It's a saltwater catfish. 901 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: A hard headed catfish. And I had to educate myself. 902 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh he got another one. They caught three fish. Now, man, there, this. 903 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 4: Is phenomenal catfish. 904 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 6: So I'm done. 905 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: This is phenomenal advertising for the meat eater experience in Venice, Louisiana. 906 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 3: And a redemption of the Peteli's family name. 907 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: That's right, true, Yanni. Uh catching three fish within a minute. 908 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: I like those grippers for the catfish there. Stay away 909 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: from the most spines. Boys. 910 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: Oh that was exciting. 911 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was incredibly exciting but also somehow 912 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 5: incredibly anti climactic. 913 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Three catfish within thirty seconds. Well done, Yanni, Well done, Renee. 914 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 2: And those are hard head catfish. I had to learn 915 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 2: about them a little bit. They the world record is 916 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: like four and a half pounds. They do not grow 917 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 2: very big. 918 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 4: Oh wow, they don't get big. 919 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: No, so you got some stand fish there for a hardhead. 920 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 3: We're gonna make Renee is still fishing, Renee is. 921 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: Still fish in the background. I don't care. We're gonna 922 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 2: make a thousand dollars donation today, then, Yanni to the 923 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: Billfish Foundation, how about that? 924 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 4: I like it? 925 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: I like it all right. 926 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 4: The Renee was telling me, they're the ones that provide 927 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 4: and and uh, the all the tagging that a lot 928 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 4: of people are using off shore, like but instead of 929 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 4: killing fish, they're tagging these fish with satellite trackers and 930 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 4: a lot of that research and the and the money 931 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 4: and all that comes from the bill Fish Foundation. 932 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 3: Another one. 933 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: He's pulling them in as fast as in the background. 934 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 3: Someone stuff that man. 935 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 2: All right, thanks Yanni, we will we'll see you next week. 936 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: And wow, that like five fish in our one minute 937 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 2: fishing segment. All right, moving on, our next segment is 938 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 2: let's talk about sex. 939 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 5: You want to talk about want to talk about? 940 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. 941 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: Justice, showing the falcons and. 942 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: I like to hear stick saying. 943 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 5: A word to come to tea because occasionally you don't 944 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 5: want to talk about sex. 945 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: You could have went with the obvious Salt and Peppa single. 946 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: But Toby Keith, uh, I want to talk about me 947 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: Phil Crow. 948 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: Phi'll just yeah, talk about using this is his platform 949 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: to show. 950 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 5: All right, let's it really, I'm just taking advantage of it. 951 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: It's let's talk about sex. Is where Karen enlightens us 952 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: on animal kingdom intercourse. Take it away, Karen, here we go. 953 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 7: This segment in honor of white Tail Week, is about 954 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 7: white tails. Everybody. 955 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: What qualifies you to host this? 956 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 5: I did research, She did the research. 957 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 2: We have some vandals fanning himself. 958 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 3: It's got to be. 959 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 7: If you're looking for forever love, you're out of luck 960 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 7: with whitetail deer. As masters of non monogamy, whitetail bucks 961 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 7: are fully obsessed with sexy time during the rut or 962 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 7: mating season from October through December and extending through the 963 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 7: end of January into the southern range. Whitetail bucks are 964 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 7: singularly focused on hooking up with hot doughs, and by hot, 965 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 7: I literally mean in heat. Like in her estrous cycle, 966 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 7: eating and sleeping tend to fall by the wayside for 967 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 7: bucks as they wander beyond their home range for greener pastures. 968 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 7: The rut is all about the chase, and does will 969 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 7: play hard to get. Bucks will run themselves ragged in 970 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 7: pursuit of dos and can lose roughly twenty five percent 971 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 7: of their body weight by the end of mating season. 972 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 7: A doe will try her damnedest to flee the advance 973 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 7: of a salivating buck, but when she determined she's ready 974 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 7: biologically speaking, she will stop and stand for him. See, folks, 975 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 7: it's all about consent. The buck sticks around for a 976 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 7: bit to breed the willing dough several times while she's 977 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 7: in her estras cycle, which typically lasts a day or two. 978 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 7: It truly is a case of he loves her, then 979 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 7: he leaves her, since soon enough he's frolicking off to 980 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 7: find another hot dough. There's actually a scientific term for 981 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 7: this behavior. It's called scramble polygyny. Whereby males partake in 982 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 7: competitive searching for a maximum number of female mates. But 983 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 7: it's not just the bucks that go wild and practice promiscuity. 984 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 7: White tail does can read with multiple mates as well. 985 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 7: She might fancy the older gentleman buck and the younger 986 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 7: pool boy buck all the same. A hungry young buck 987 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 7: foolishly in and over its head may try to challenge 988 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 7: a more mature buck and get its butt whooped. Or 989 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 7: he might sleek sneakily swoop in on lady Doe and 990 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 7: she'll let him get lucky once the older male has 991 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 7: done his deed. 992 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: Describe for me a pool boy buck. 993 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 5: You know, in its earlier years. 994 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 7: With the dough being bred multiple times by multiple bucks 995 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 7: during an estra cycle, sperm gets all mixed up inside 996 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 7: two separate ova may get fertilized, and she could end 997 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 7: up with twin fawnds fathered by two different baby daddies. Oh, 998 00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 7: how scandalous. The scientific term for multiple paternity in a 999 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 7: single ungulate litter is called superfundication. Superfundication put the fun, yeah, 1000 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 7: and super fundation. There we go, cow super up, No 1001 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 7: super sorry, superfecondation. Oops, there's no fun in that. But 1002 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 7: plenty of fun what the fac Superfecondation is also known 1003 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 7: to occur in dogs, cats, and cows, and it's been 1004 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 7: verified in other mammal species such as shrews, deer mice, 1005 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 7: black bears, grizzly bears, polar bears, and feral hogs and humans. 1006 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: I've seen a maury about this, Like, yes, of course 1007 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 2: I miss that show. 1008 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: Missed that show, but yeah, so like when you're beautiful 1009 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: golden retriever spits out of border collie amongst a bunch of. 1010 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 7: Other golden superfecondation it is almost done, folks. Gestation lasts 1011 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 7: for around seven months, so we wouldn't know until the 1012 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 7: following spring just how frisky Mamadou had been during the 1013 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 7: previous fall. Paternity testing in wildlife populations is no easy task, 1014 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 7: so identifying superfecundation hasn't even been attempted in too many species. 1015 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 7: That's it for your sex education. Lesson today, folks, until 1016 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 7: next time. 1017 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 2: Well done. That was great, and as Cow pointed out, 1018 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 2: I love the pool boy buck reference. The hunting community 1019 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: needed that. I'm going to use that term in the future. 1020 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad you introduced. 1021 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 5: Us to that perfect boy. 1022 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 7: Glad to do a service folks. 1023 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll have more. Let's talk about sex in 1024 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: the future. I think that's now my favorite segment that. 1025 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: We do because it was a lot of fun. 1026 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 2: Bill's sound that he plays and Corinne's great research. 1027 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 3: A short lived reigin for Meat Eater Movie Club. 1028 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,399 Speaker 1: When is your favorite for about twenty one minutes, Well, 1029 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: we had never Yeah, you're right when selecting for mature 1030 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: animals though, right, it's more more than just antler size, Right, 1031 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: You're looking at body type and I often throw in attitude. Yeah, 1032 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: pool boy, buck, my pool boy buck. Be like, you know, 1033 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: a term that we can carry on in the field 1034 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: pretty easily. Gonna use it all full conkey, little pool boy. 1035 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 7: All right. 1036 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 2: Joining us on the line next is Ryan Beerman, who 1037 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 2: survived a black bear attack in Wisconsin thanks to some 1038 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 2: good shooting from his twelve year old son. Ryan. Welcome 1039 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:38,959 Speaker 2: to the show. 1040 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 8: Thanks for having me, all right. 1041 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 2: Ryan, First off, tell us what you were doing in 1042 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: the woods on that fateful. 1043 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 8: Day September seventh. Me and my son were bear hunting. 1044 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 8: My son had a bear tag for the area of Wisconsin. 1045 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 8: We're hunting sire Wisconsin, hunting over bait. So in Wisconsin 1046 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 8: bait hunters. It alternates every year, so this year bait 1047 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 8: hunters went first. So next year now hound hunters at first. 1048 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,720 Speaker 8: But we were sitting over bait and do your stand 1049 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 8: or bear stand, I guess you call it. But in 1050 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 8: my about six pm, I tapped my son on the 1051 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,919 Speaker 8: shoulder and I said, oh, and there's once straight west 1052 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 8: of us, and watched it and it never came through, 1053 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 8: and kept watching and they ended up coming in from 1054 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 8: the north side of the bait, and he ended up 1055 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 8: putting a shot on it. And everything I seen when 1056 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 8: where the bear was biting it looked like it was 1057 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 8: a fatal shot. High fives and waited twenty minutes a 1058 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 8: half hour. We got down, neighbors called neighbors came over, 1059 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,479 Speaker 8: started looking for blood. We didn't find blood right away. 1060 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 8: Ended up getting one of the neighbors to bring their 1061 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 8: chocolate lab over and we started trailing and I was 1062 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 8: carrying a ten milimeters pistol and my son was carrying 1063 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 8: a three fifty legend and he got dark on us 1064 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 8: and kept kept going with flashlights and headlamps and going 1065 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 8: into the I mean it was super thick where we 1066 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 8: were at. I actually when the dog ended up getting 1067 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 8: hit by the bearer, which I didn't realize he got 1068 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 8: hit by the bear. I thought he got probably got 1069 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 8: in the buckthorn or something. And he yelped and ran 1070 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 8: behind me, and I, you know, kind of stepped into 1071 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 8: the clearing and I was like, oh, man, right, there 1072 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 8: is a bear five feet away, and the best stance 1073 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 8: I can give you or tell you for the bear 1074 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 8: at that time he was sitting next to an oak 1075 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 8: tree looking like a cat ready to pounce. 1076 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 2: Wow. So for a recap so far, Ryan and his 1077 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 2: son Owen were bear hunting. Owen shot the bear, wounded it, 1078 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: they tracked it, and while they were tracking it, the 1079 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 2: bear maybe made a swipe at the dog. The dog 1080 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 2: ran out, and then the bear came after Ryan and 1081 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 2: it got on top of you right yep. 1082 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 8: So initially it came at me on it hind legs, 1083 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 8: you know, claws, and I actually got a scratch on 1084 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 8: her pretty decent cut on my right her left hand 1085 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 8: from I believe it would have initially swiped at me 1086 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 8: and it ended up knocking me over. At that point, 1087 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 8: he grabbed me by my right leg and it was 1088 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 8: shaking me profusely. I mean, it was shaking me. The 1089 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 8: best way I can describe it as a labrador shaking 1090 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 8: a rowbone. And at that time I was pistol whipping 1091 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 8: the bear. For better terms, I mean ten milimeters pistol. 1092 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 8: I shot at it as it was coming. I was 1093 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 8: shooting from the pretty much from my hip because I 1094 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 8: pulled it from side hole stirt and I was shooting 1095 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 8: at it as it was coming. So I was pistol 1096 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 8: whipping it with the empty pistol over and I remember 1097 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 8: thinking I got to change something up here, and I 1098 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 8: remember turning the pistol on the side and actually hitting 1099 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 8: the bear. I think I was trying to name for 1100 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 8: its year with the magwell and I twisted it, hit 1101 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 8: it with the magwell and leased for split second, and 1102 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 8: I was like, oh, it's over. You know, I thought 1103 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 8: the bear was gone. You know, I thought I was 1104 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 8: going to run off. At that point, I looked over 1105 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 8: and checked on on. On was fine, and I looked 1106 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 8: out and I just remember seeing claws and teeth coming 1107 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 8: shape from my face. At that point, instinctively, I stuck 1108 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 8: my right arm up in front of my face, and 1109 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 8: I remember the first bite. The first bite. I was like, oh, man, 1110 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 8: I just broke my arm because I heard the crunch 1111 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 8: of guessing with pen nine teeth going through my clothes 1112 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 8: and into my flashing into my arm, and I just 1113 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 8: remember thinking, how am I going to fight this bear 1114 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 8: with broken arm? And fight continued and it was like 1115 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 8: everything was in slow motion. I remember hearing the report 1116 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 8: of the iifle and I seen the muzzle flash, and 1117 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 8: I just remember the the bear's weight because he was 1118 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 8: sanded on top of me pretty much at this point. 1119 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 8: I just remember his weight shifting to my left side, 1120 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 8: which was away from the shot, and I just pushed 1121 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 8: him off to the left and he died right there, 1122 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 8: you know. And I rolled over trying to what distance 1123 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 8: in between me and the bear at that time. 1124 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 2: And that that shot that Ryan is describing came from 1125 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 2: his twelve year old son Owen, who was witnessing the attack. 1126 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 2: And Ryan, I had read that. You said you could 1127 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 2: feel the bullet passed through the bear. Is that correct? 1128 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1129 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 7: It was. 1130 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 8: It was like nothing I ever felt. I mean it was, 1131 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 8: you know, I could just feel the hole that shot. 1132 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 8: I could feel the whole way to the bear going 1133 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 8: to my left side. 1134 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,919 Speaker 2: And when when the attack was happening, at any point 1135 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 2: did you think to yourself, like, I hope Owen shoots 1136 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 2: this thing or had that not crossed your mind? 1137 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 8: I was I think I was screaming, trying to scream. 1138 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 8: I don't know, shoot it, shoot it? 1139 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: M Are you you at work right now? Ryan? 1140 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 8: Yep? 1141 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just want like the general reaction that 1142 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: you're getting right now when somebody's like, uh, boy, can 1143 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: you have a rough weekend? You got a couple of 1144 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: scars on your face that weren't there before, and you 1145 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: say I got attacked by a bear? What do they say? 1146 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 8: They're like, what they don't? You know, most people don't 1147 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 8: even believe it happened, you know, literally, let me hear 1148 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 8: the story. 1149 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Wow, we are. We are looking at Ryan's fresh wounds 1150 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 2: right now. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can 1151 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 2: see those as well. Tell us about the wounds that 1152 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: you had and how those are healing. 1153 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 8: You're healing up pretty good. I mean you see it 1154 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 8: on my face that I caught here ripped open on 1155 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 8: my left side of my cheek, pretty much flayed open. 1156 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 8: Everything's healing up good, back to walk and just fine. 1157 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Great. 1158 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, we we are glad that you're around to tell 1159 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 2: the story and tell Owen that he's a hero for us. 1160 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 2: What what an increble man? Yeah? All right, thank you 1161 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 2: for joining us, Ryan, thank you. Crazy stuff. A twelve 1162 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: year old to like have the the thought to shoot 1163 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 2: that bear and then successfully do it, it's like putting 1164 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 2: him in an insane situation. 1165 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, some of those situations you always wonder if you'd 1166 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 3: be able to pull that out. 1167 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, how anybody would versus just a twelve 1168 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: year old? 1169 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, all. 1170 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 2: Right, we have come to the end of the show. 1171 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 2: Phil should we do some listening or feedback and questions 1172 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 2: first before we wrap up the caption contest? 1173 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1174 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Sure, what do you got here? 1175 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 5: Zachary wants a mediatter movie club style randall breakdown about 1176 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 5: Love is Blind. 1177 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: I'd be happy to do that. Yeah. 1178 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 3: If there are any seasons in particular you'd like us 1179 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 3: to review, please send it to radio at the mediator 1180 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 3: dot com. 1181 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if you're new to the dating genre, 1182 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: if you watch what's the one that I enjoyed? The 1183 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: Love on the Spectrum, and then your girlfriend's like, let's 1184 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: watch Love is Blind. Love is Blind is such a letdown. 1185 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 1: So there's not a single blind person on that show. 1186 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Love Love Spectrum Wonderful. 1187 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm a big fan of Love is Blind 1188 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 3: and Love Island and all of these shows. So the 1189 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 3: only problem is they keep getting longer and longer. They're 1190 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 3: like twenty eight episodes now, and the episodes are themselves, 1191 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 3: you know, seventy minutes. It's really overwhelming. 1192 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 2: I get second hand, I get secondhand exposure to these shows, 1193 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 2: but I have yet to uh, you know, take it 1194 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,919 Speaker 2: in for myself. And I'm glad. I'm glad you like them, Rando. 1195 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 3: We can address that. We can address that. 1196 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what else you got? Phil? 1197 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 5: Ryan is asking about any traditions or superstition during your 1198 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 5: hunting camp or at your hunting camp as you prepare 1199 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 5: for a trip. 1200 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Tradition or superstition? 1201 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 3: Have any as a I mean, I think my traditions 1202 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 3: have gone by the wayside since I moved to Montana, 1203 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 3: because every hunt is kind of its own different experience. 1204 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 3: But when I was deer hunting Kentucky, my buddy and 1205 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 3: I would always buy, uh, we'd go down each weekend 1206 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 3: in November and would always go to the grocery store 1207 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 3: and buy two rotisserie chickens, would buy a thing of 1208 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 3: instant mashed potatoes, would buy a box of stovetop stuffing 1209 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 3: by jar Cranberry sauce. We would make Thanksgiving dinners. There 1210 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 3: you go all weekend and then Thanksgiving sandwiches for lunch. 1211 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 3: I have a feeling that it likely figured into our success. 1212 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 2: That's good, Tish, I think I thought of one. I 1213 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 2: have some of the last Ham Special Lights in the world. 1214 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 2: It's my favorite beer, and they discontinue them a few 1215 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 2: years ago. So now I take one with me on hunts, 1216 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 2: and if I'm successful, I get to have one, you know, 1217 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 2: with that critter while I'm gutting it or cleaning it 1218 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 2: or whatever. So I get to have the last Ham 1219 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 2: Special light, you know, with a deer that I killed 1220 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 2: in Montana, or you know, an antelope I shot in Wyoming. 1221 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: So the Ham Special light tradition will continue for a 1222 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 2: little while. 1223 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: That's nice. That's very nice. I unfortunately have like you know, 1224 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: bonded with certain clothing items. So I have an orange 1225 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: hat that I really like to wear. But the problem 1226 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: with that is it orange fades, and there's no way 1227 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: it's legal at this point, and so that's a real 1228 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: real bummer. 1229 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, blaze the orange. It's just like subjective, right, I 1230 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 2: think it really is. 1231 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 5: I think it is, and then they'll do we'll do 1232 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 5: a last sort of comment here before we choose the 1233 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 5: winner of the capture contest. Ethan says that he knows 1234 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 5: that I have a good tabletop game that I'm dming 1235 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,439 Speaker 5: right now. Dming for the late person is it means 1236 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 5: Dungeon Master. I've only ever DM for my family, but 1237 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 5: I have tried to start kind of a whisper campaign 1238 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 5: around the office to see if anyone would be down 1239 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 5: to play some Dungeons and Dragons. 1240 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Like You're You're at coffee and you're like, sorry, casta, 1241 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 1: what spell? 1242 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 6: Phil? 1243 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 3: You texted Spencer and me many many months ago asking 1244 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 3: whether it would be interested in joining your group, and 1245 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 3: I responded in the affirmative, and I believe Spencer did too. 1246 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: That's not true. 1247 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 5: Spencer offered up his house as a place to hang out. 1248 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 5: He was a firm no, but he would be excited 1249 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 5: to just kind of be there. Was very excited to participate. 1250 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 3: But I just recall that text exchange ending with me 1251 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 3: saying yeah, I'd gladly participate, and then there's been silence since. 1252 01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 3: So this is a revelation to me. That you haven't 1253 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 3: act well. 1254 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 5: I've asked others around the office in person, such as 1255 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 5: Maggie uh hot hot Carl formerly of Theater Corporation. Both 1256 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 5: of them were kind of like Luke warmont I just 1257 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 5: haven't gotten a lot of positive uh a big positive reaction. 1258 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 5: I'm still gonna try to make it happen. Maybe we'll 1259 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 5: do like a little one shot two or three hours. 1260 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 3: Am I not enough for you? 1261 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: The time of years? 1262 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 2: There's food and beer I've offered, and cater and step 1263 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 2: in when Phil needs the voice of an ogre or something. 1264 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, put it pitching my support 1265 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 2: behind Phil. 1266 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 1: And I just want to point out just because I 1267 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: enjoy being hyper critical of certain things, I don't have 1268 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 1: to be that way all the time. 1269 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 5: I'm very aware you're one of my favorite people to 1270 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 5: see around the office. And then some people are are 1271 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 5: baffled by that. 1272 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's wrap up this caption contest. Now, can 1273 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 2: we see the photo one more time to see let's 1274 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 2: folks are. 1275 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 5: Captioning, Okay, there's. 1276 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 2: The cal across the face with a hunk of meat. 1277 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 5: Okay, so I narrowed it down to fives. A lot 1278 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 5: of you didn't make the cut. They were still very good. 1279 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 5: There was a great one that said, hey, here's a 1280 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 5: thigh five. That one made me chuckle, but unfortunately, so okay, 1281 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 5: here we go. First one is from Joe sEH, this 1282 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 5: is the caption. He's quoting Steve. It's pronounced rus belt. 1283 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 5: You know what this is kind of you know, for 1284 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 5: those of you who know Steve was very adamant about 1285 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 5: pronouncing Roosevelt Roosevelt. He's actually since done a one to 1286 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 5: eighty on this. Yes, yeah, when presented with new information, 1287 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 5: he changed his mind. 1288 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 3: But I still think this caption captures the spirit of Steve, 1289 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,679 Speaker 3: which which is why I selected, especially it hits close 1290 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 3: to home. 1291 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,839 Speaker 5: There was another one that said here's here's your compliment sandwich, 1292 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 5: which is also good. I thought this almost just. 1293 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Edged it out a little bit. 1294 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 5: Okay, this is a classic, but you know I had 1295 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 5: to include it. I hear by night you sir Loin. Oh, 1296 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 5: come on, Joe, Yeah, this one, this one makes me 1297 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 5: laugh just reading it. Tim Miller says, snort, this shout 1298 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,719 Speaker 5: out to the best dog. Leland says after this, it'll 1299 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:13,520 Speaker 5: be Cols. 1300 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Week in Review. 1301 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, that. 1302 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 5: One solid and then last one, Waffle says, I'd make 1303 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 5: a caption, but I'm afraid I'll butcher it. 1304 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 3: Getting a little metat there. 1305 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 2: That's true, Phil, what's your favorite from that list? 1306 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 5: I mean, my favorite is snort this, but I don't 1307 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 5: think that'll be the consensus. 1308 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'd throw my vote behind it's pronounced Roosevelt. How 1309 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 2: about how about the others in the room. 1310 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: I like the simplicity of thigh five. 1311 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 5: I'll have to go back and find that user if 1312 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:47,560 Speaker 5: we choose it. 1313 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 2: We have a split vote so far here, randall, are 1314 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 2: you going to pick another one off the board or 1315 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 2: go with Phil's mine or cows? It is your birthday, 1316 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 2: so I think you should decide who gets the core 1317 01:10:59,000 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 2: jacket from first. 1318 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 3: Like, oh god, that's a lot of pressure. 1319 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: That is a lot of pressure. 1320 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 3: I forgot me profoundly uncomfortable on my this is my birthday. 1321 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 3: Uh huh, as we all know, king for a day, 1322 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go rogue here. Okay, out, I'm gonna say 1323 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 3: thigh five. I love it. 1324 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 1: Thigh five all great submissions, but if you guys. 1325 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 5: Want to I need to find the thigh five so 1326 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,799 Speaker 5: we can shout that person out. 1327 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 2: Thigh five show yourself they are the winner, and to 1328 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 2: claim their prize, they're going to write an email to 1329 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 2: Radio at the medeater dot com and we will get 1330 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 2: you that core jacket. Do it right now, do it 1331 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 2: as soon as this show ends. That way, I know 1332 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 2: it's you and we don't have a thousand people claiming 1333 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 2: to be the thigh five jokester. Again, that's Radio at 1334 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 2: the meadeater dot com. 1335 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,680 Speaker 3: You could have given me a few days and I 1336 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 3: never would have gotten the thigh five. 1337 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 1: You know, I can't search. 1338 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 5: I'm so I'm so sad that I unstarted, so I 1339 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 5: can't find it easily. 1340 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 2: So I got I got some more filler, Phil. 1341 01:11:59,360 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 3: While you do that. 1342 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 2: On next week's meat Eater, Radio will not be live 1343 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 2: because Steve and crew are recording it from Cypress Cove 1344 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 2: in Louisiana at the first Meet Eater Experience. The video 1345 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 2: will still drop on Thursday in the podcast on Friday, 1346 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: but again we will not be live for that one. 1347 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,680 Speaker 2: Media to Radio. We'll return to its regular schedule on 1348 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 2: October seventeenth, And don't forget, it's white tail week right now, 1349 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 2: so head over to the mediat dot com for our 1350 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 2: best white Tail content and deals. All week, we have 1351 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 2: discounted first Light whitetail gear, and the more you spend, 1352 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 2: the more you save. Head over to our website because 1353 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: there are only a few days of white Tail Week left. 1354 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,560 Speaker 1: Here is we should all wig in. 1355 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Alexis, Tom, Alexis Thomas, congratulations Alexis. 1356 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,679 Speaker 2: Caption contest thigh five. Alexis, you write us at radio 1357 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 2: at the mediater dot com. We're gonna get you that 1358 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 2: first light jacket. 1359 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 3: Brilliant, brilliant. That's right. 1360 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking, uh, we can have people take 1361 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 1: bets on how much we weigh, uh before the before 1362 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 1: and after way. It's of Cypress. You're gonna eat good 1363 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: down there, yeah, louisianachy like they only do things two ways. 1364 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 2: Yep. 1365 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 1: It's cooked in butter, or is defat fried and then 1366 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: served with butter. 1367 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,599 Speaker 2: Okay, it's gonna be a good time. 1368 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 3: Sounds lovely. 1369 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 2: All right. We will see everyone back here on October 1370 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 2: seventeenth for more Meat Eater Radio Live. 1371 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 3: Let's get lunch.