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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Tworld, a podcast that once chronicled

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Speaker 1: two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: but watched a season and walked away experts. From there

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Speaker 1: we ventured to Traders, and now we turn to Survivor

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Speaker 1: season fifty the Big One. Join us as we dive

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Speaker 1: into alliances, blindsides, fire making, sand related misery, and twenty

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Speaker 1: five years of television history culminating in a single massive season.

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Speaker 1: This is Pod meets Tworld, seeking immunity. I am right

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Speaker 1: or Strong, and today my usual partner, wilfred Ell, is

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Speaker 1: out and I am joined instead by someone who actually

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Speaker 1: knows the game of Survivor, and not just from watching it,

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Speaker 1: but from living it.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm with an honest to goodness survivor. Please Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Pod meets Tworld. A finalist from season forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Sophie Blurdie.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Everyone? So happy to be here? This is

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Speaker 3: so oh cool.

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Speaker 1: I am so this is amazing. Yeah, because Will couldn't

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Speaker 1: couldn't do it this episode and we were like, well,

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Speaker 1: who are we gonna get And like two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: like after our first episode, you messaged me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and I was, so this was like the coolest thing ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So did you watch Boy Meets World? Did you listen

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Speaker 1: to our show?

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Speaker 3: Or of course I did. I did both. I grew

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Speaker 3: up watching it. This is a dream come true.

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Speaker 1: You're so young though you're old, like twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: How did you Well, I'll be honest with you, it

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Speaker 4: was a little bit ahead of my time. I did

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Speaker 4: watch the Girl Meets World version more because it was

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Speaker 4: on when I was watching Disney Channel. But I still

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Speaker 4: watched your show and I grew up with you guys basically,

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Speaker 4: and I.

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Speaker 3: Do listen to your podcast.

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Speaker 4: And so when I saw that you did you know

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Speaker 4: you're covering season fifty, I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I sent a DM to writer. I was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: if you ever need someone, and here I am. You know,

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Speaker 4: sometimes they work if you shoot your shot. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: I did have to say you didn't watch season forty nine.

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Speaker 3: But Riz God, the Riz God on season fifty is

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Speaker 3: a huge fan of you guys.

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Speaker 4: And he kill me if I didn't tell you. So

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Speaker 4: if you ever need someone in the future, reach out

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Speaker 4: toz Gott.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well he's on the season right now.

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: So my my problem with the Survivor. My biggest challenge

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Speaker 1: So my son and my wife will get like, you know,

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Speaker 1: six episodes into a season, and then I'll be out

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Speaker 1: of town and I'll come back and I'll only watch

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Speaker 1: like one. So I saw the snake bite incident of

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Speaker 1: season forty nine. That's it. I didn't know who anybody was.

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Speaker 1: I just jumped into that one episode. So tell me

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Speaker 1: about your experience. I have so many questions I want

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Speaker 1: to hear. Let's start this way like rather than because

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Speaker 1: actual details of what happened forty nine, especially as the

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Speaker 1: relevant to season fifty. But I'm just curious what were

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Speaker 1: your expectations about like being on Survivor, and then how

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, watching it you have.

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Speaker 4: It's weird because not everybody has this dream to starve

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Speaker 3: But being a super fan of the show, you do.

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Speaker 4: Have that dream, and you always wonder like, how would

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Speaker 4: I do if I'm.

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Speaker 4: What would I do if I'm in that position? And

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Speaker 4: obviously when you watch the show, you see all the

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Speaker 4: cool stuff. You see them doing these challenges being at

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Speaker 4: tribal counsel with Jeff Probes, and you learn very quickly

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Speaker 4: when you're out there it's a lot harder than it

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Speaker 4: You don't sleep, Like there's so many things that you

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on. Like literally didn't eat anything for eleven days, dude,

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Speaker 4: They usually have rice, and they don't have rice anymore

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Speaker 4: So I literally didn't eat anything until I finally want

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Speaker 3: I had a grilled cheese sandwich after eleven days is starving.

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Speaker 4: So it was crazy, but it's real, Like I it's

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Speaker 4: a real It's the real deal, which is kind of

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Speaker 4: cool to know. I feel like watching it as a

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's what was Because Will hasn't seen the show, and

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Speaker 1: as I was trying to explain to him, I was like,

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Speaker 1: in the earlier seasons, they spend a lot more time

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Speaker 4: I wish there wasn't, but I mean you see it

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, So I want to know, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of a weird question, but like I've actually I've

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Speaker 1: very curious, like how do those how do those confessionals

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Speaker 1: And are they just asking you like leading questions, like

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like they look for this in casting,

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Speaker 4: Like if you're someone who when you ask a person

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Speaker 4: And then you'll just stock your crap and whatever, and

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Speaker 3: But no, they do it.

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Speaker 4: It's it's pretty they they honored the integrity of the game,

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Speaker 3: Like, Wow, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: So when when you're a super fan, you said, Dan,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly I did because I'm not very strong, Like

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Speaker 4: So you don't need to be that strong to win Survivor.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's like something I learned.

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Speaker 1: How were the challenges for you? Were they just miserable

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Speaker 4: Honestly, while you're out there, there's so much downtime. You're

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, something to do where you're not like

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Speaker 3: So I love the challenges.

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Speaker 4: They're so fun and there's no other time you're gonna

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Speaker 4: be able to do that unless you're on Survivor, so

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Speaker 4: it's so cool to do.

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Speaker 1: So, how how do you feel about the way that

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Speaker 1: you your season was presented? Like the way it ended

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Speaker 1: up do you feel like it was accurate? That did

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Speaker 1: it feel like you did it feel like you were

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Speaker 4: I think the Survivor producers do such a good job

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I did things.

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Speaker 4: Six days like and that, honestly, in some ways is

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Speaker 3: So I tried to look at it.

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't complain truly.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, okay, And so what exactly happened the three

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Speaker 4: And part of that was because Rizzo was, I think

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Speaker 4: that's kind of the beauty of Survivor, Like you're working

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Speaker 3: Did my best. Y.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, So what is the most

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Speaker 4: Like, h, how cool Jeff Probes actually is in real life?

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Speaker 3: Like he because I grew up watching this as a kid.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like a family show, right, But then

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Speaker 4: And he's so sweet, he's so personable, he's so good

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Speaker 4: the fact that you're like, there's there's such a magic

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Speaker 4: So I mean, if you watch the season back, you

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Speaker 3: And I was like this underdog.

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Speaker 4: But she was such a badass player like she was

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Speaker 1: My god, yeah, when she was already doing pretty damn well,

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And it Rizzo is just like such a fun character,

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Speaker 1: Yes, he keeps winning everybody over. It's so funny. It's

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Speaker 4: Player works out in a game like Survivor, like you

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Speaker 3: Looking at everybody else.

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Speaker 4: And in a season like season fifty, if people aren't

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Speaker 1: Do you think Savannah made a mistake by telling everybody

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Speaker 3: So I do have some tea about that.

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Speaker 1: Right, right? Well, so how do you feel about I mean,

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Speaker 4: So it's funny because the way that I have faith

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Speaker 3: Long as this tribe keeps winning, I think he's okay.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, what we saw last night, and I

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Speaker 4: do you remember that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's about you. I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like, this is a

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Speaker 4: Is I know, I got a whole government name drop

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Speaker 4: by the riz God. I didn't expect that at all,

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Speaker 4: But I was if I'm not going to be a

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Speaker 3: But I don't know. Did you you didn't watch season

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Speaker 1: I did watch Season forty six, Yeah, which I love.

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Speaker 3: It was so good, good right, good characters.

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Speaker 1: No, I liked you know that. I like the seasons

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Speaker 4: And it's funny because rizzon sav went into season fifty

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Speaker 3: Season, he's just trying to hide that.

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Speaker 4: But it was funny to watch that, like Rizzo say

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Speaker 1: Omo, but then what he said last night, it was

441
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,880
Speaker 1: like back to last night. No, it was super interesting,

442
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,199
Speaker 1: and I the layers. I also feel like this season

443
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 1: they are being so hard on the players, like, yeah,

444
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 1: the fact that they've already done this tribe swap, the

445
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,160
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't get supplies like all the fans.

446
00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,200
Speaker 1: The decisions the fans have made really made.

447
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 3: Get brutal right, like to see the suffering. It's kind

448
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 3: of annoying.

449
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 4: As a player, it sucks, but as a fan it

450
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 4: is fun to watch a little bit.

451
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 3: And I don't know, what do you think about the tribeswaps?

452
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,919
Speaker 3: Do you like? Do you like that they did the swap?

453
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean yes, because what I the thing that I

454
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 1: haven't liked is exactly what happened in your season. It

455
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,440
Speaker 1: sounds like, which is like when one team just keeps losing,

456
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 1: or one tribe just keeps losing in that snowball effect,

457
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: it really like, you know, it just keeps happening because

458
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 1: it's like they're more demoralized, they're not getting food, they're

459
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: not you know, all the things. It's like, why don't

460
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 1: we distribute some of this the bad stuff and some

461
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: of the risks, So like if you go to tribal,

462
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: maybe you do get flint and maybe you know, like

463
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 1: the fact that you that if you're losing, you just

464
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 1: keep losing. If you're winning, you just keep winning. Like

465
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: that can get really boring for me, as you know,

466
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 1: and I also just start it. So so I guess

467
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 1: I like the tribe swap in this week's because it's

468
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of preventing that from happening, you know, with the

469
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 1: exception of like Ozzie, who's been to every tribal, you know,

470
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: it seems like it's shaking things up up and sort

471
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: of forcing people to up their social game, which I

472
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: think is good. You know. Like, so this move I like.

473
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: But when they started off the season and it was

474
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 1: that you know, oh, you're not going to get supplies

475
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 1: unless you earn it, I was like, Oh, no, we're

476
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: going to be just watching somebody really struggle. But that

477
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: actually hasn't been the case, I don't think.

478
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: So.

479
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a hard reset and it's good for

480
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 4: some people, bad for others. I feel like, if you're

481
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 4: in a bad position in your tribe, it's great because

482
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 4: now you have opportunities to connect.

483
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: With new people.

484
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 4: But if you're in a good position, kind of like

485
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 4: Q was. He had this alliance and even though he

486
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 4: didn't have a vote, I think he would have been

487
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: fine had he gone to tribal council. But now he's

488
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 4: on this new tribe where he doesn't have those people.

489
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: He only had Steph.

490
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,959
Speaker 4: Backing him up, and and he was a casualty of that.

491
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 3: So it's good and bad. It's fun for us to

492
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 3: watch though totally. Well that's yeah.

493
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: And all right, so let's talk about it. Yeah, episode

494
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: opens with Cela tribe and this whole hiding the fake

495
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: idol thing you make of this? I don't understand, like,

496
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 1: what is the point? What is the goal? And they

497
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: never talk about it again for the rest of the episode.

498
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: So I'm like, do you have any like strategic mind

499
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: understanding of what's going on?

500
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: I don't, So okay, I do because I have you

501
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 4: watched Rick Devons original season?

502
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

503
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: Yes, okay?

504
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 4: Well, Rick Devons is known to be very cold with

505
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 4: his idol plays, and I'm not gonna lie.

506
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: He hasn't been on TV for a while.

507
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 4: I feel like he's been thinking about doing this for

508
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. He's until you return, he

509
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 4: was going to do this but I think it's really

510
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 4: creative because the way that Rick plays is very bold,

511
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 4: where he he always ends up being a target. And

512
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: if he's a target and he's going to be the

513
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 4: one to go at a tribal council, he really can

514
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 4: use that that tool that he now has in his toolbox.

515
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 4: So just pull this thing out at tribal council and

516
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 4: be like, ooh, sorry, guys, you can't.

517
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: Boot me out, Like I have an idol now.

518
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 4: And if there's any season where there's going to be

519
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: an idol hidden at tribal council, it is going to

520
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: be season fifty's.

521
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: So he's made He's put it a fake idol there, right, Yeah,

522
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: so what's the plan. He's hoping somebody finds it and

523
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: thinks they have an eye when they don't.

524
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: I think he hopes that he can take it from

525
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 3: pull it.

526
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can pull it and be like look what

527
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: I had.

528
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

529
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: And so if they if the plan is to vote

530
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: Rick out, then they're probably going to change their mind

531
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 4: at that tribal council when they you know, when they

532
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 4: see that he has a fake idol or an idol,

533
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 4: they don't know what it is.

534
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, Okay, I didn't know if he was going

535
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: to try and like like leave a clue for somebody

536
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: else to find it and then have it turn out

537
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: to be fake. And I was just trying to like

538
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: think it all through. Okay, So he's just like messing

539
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: with people's minds, messing with everything.

540
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, interesting, I know.

541
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: All right. So then the tribe they get this tree

542
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: mail that does some sort of thing about whether they're

543
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: going to be rich or not, and then they all

544
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: kind of start into it in that it's going to

545
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: be a tribe swap. Yeah, and then they have this

546
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: like scramble because they know that Devin's and Christian have

547
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: sent Aubrey the Boomerang idol from Billie Eilish, which is

548
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: just the create The dynamics of this are super cool

549
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: and I'm very curious and like this plays well into

550
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: a tribe swap too, this idea that like you might

551
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: have supported somebody another tribe, but then they don't have

552
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: time to tell Emily get to the reward challenge or

553
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: the swap challenge or whatever, and Jeff does rap starts

554
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: rapping with this, which is the first time I think

555
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: this has ever happened.

556
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you What did you think about that note?

557
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: I felt sorry for him.

558
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: I was like, well, what whose idea was this?

559
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 1: And why is it?

560
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: Was? It was his idea. I'm not gonna lie.

561
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah he so, he a couple of seasons ago had

562
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 4: everybody start chanting chicken and waffles, fried chicken and waffles,

563
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 4: and it got a lot of packlash from the fans.

564
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: I have a weird feeling that he saw that. He

565
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm gonna double down on

566
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: this and do something even weirder. And it's funny because

567
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 4: I was talking to Rizzo and Rizzle's like it was

568
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: even worse in person because they didn't have the backtrack music.

569
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: That's what I thought that.

570
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: I was like, this is they're trying to make it

571
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: sound better than it must have because they're in the

572
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: snap and you can just tell everyone's like awkwardly like listening.

573
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: Just get to the point, dude, don't keep no.

574
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 3: I know it was it was created though. I give

575
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: I give him that.

576
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: It's no it's so painful. I love him so much,

577
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: like I truly like if I want to meet him

578
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: so bad and I respect him so much, don't don't rap,

579
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: don't please don't. It felt like it felt like an

580
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: after school nineties special that's like teaching you about like

581
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: the government or something like, hey kids, I can be

582
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: cool and rap like you. Anyway, they dropped their buffs

583
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: and then Christian desperately whispers to Emily that they gave

584
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: the idol to Aubrey, which is just like such a

585
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: destabilizing move. I don't know why. I mean, I guess

586
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: it makes sense that he felt the need to tell her,

587
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: but man doesn't doesn't really work in his favor. So

588
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: the new Tribes are formed. Genevieve says that what's happening,

589
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: which is like that this is just a goal and

590
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: chaos that the fans want. It's just so true. And

591
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: then we see the new Tribes. Calo Callo is like

592
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: forming this coach kolby Joe, which is like this dude

593
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: bro Honor an Integrity Alliance.

594
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hate that you watch forty eight.

595
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: I can't even remember if I did.

596
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

597
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: Well, basically, well, yeah, that's what Joe was on forty

598
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: eight rest yes, yeaheah.

599
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: The Honor Integrity season, which is not what you want

600
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: to see when.

601
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: You're watching Survivor, you want to see backstab the opposite

602
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: of honor and like no integrity, like you want you want,

603
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: you want the chaos. And so I was not a

604
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 4: fan of this alliance happening, though it was very predictable.

605
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 4: When I saw them get to that that swap, I

606
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 4: was like, oh, these guys are going to work together,

607
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: very clear because they're very similar.

608
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I'm not excited to watch that.

609
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, like I I like, I

610
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: like them, most of them because Coach is the guy

611
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: who's like honored it. He's like says the things that,

612
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: but then he's gonna play his way anyway, you know

613
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, like I've always I wouldn't call

614
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: him a full hypocrite, but because in some ways you

615
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: have to be a little bit of a hypocrite in

616
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: this game. But like he really plays up how much

617
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: honor and integrity he has, and I'm like, do you

618
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: do you because is not the way you play so

619
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: but so it's interesting that Colby and Joe, who I

620
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: do think are much more like genuinely like what they

621
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: say is how they play to their detriment at times,

622
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: Like it's so interesting, and I feel like that's the

623
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: kind of player I would want to be. And you know,

624
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: but I agree, I don't think it's the best way

625
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: to play. I think it's much better to be like

626
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: a Devin's or a Christian or somebody who's just like, hey,

627
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: the part of the game is going to be lying

628
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: to your face and backstabbing, like we have to do that.

629
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: Like it's not doesn't make me a bad person, makes

630
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: me a good player, and like, you know you can

631
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: trust me when you can trust me or you know not,

632
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: But that's gonna be a game that we're playing. I

633
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: think that's smarter. I think that's better. I don't know

634
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: if I could play like that because I'm such a

635
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: horrible liar, but I definitely appreciate it when to watch it.

636
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: So these guys they bring in Chrissy, she's with them, yeah,

637
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: and then Coach gives Christy this like, you know, you

638
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: talk too much chatter chatter chatter, which I was just like,

639
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's the right thing to do.

640
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: It's good for her to know, but that.

641
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: I think I think if a woman was the one

642
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: who told him, who communicated that with her, would have

643
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: been done differently and it came from a good place.

644
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 4: The coach was trying to warn her and give her

645
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: heads up, but I don't think she received it that well.

646
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: And obviously she was emotional about the things she's been through,

647
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: which I love that she opened up about.

648
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: I thought that was really powerful.

649
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: Yes, and it offered insight, and I think it reminded

650
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: me that that a lot of these players do have

651
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: a lot of baggage from their original season. Like she

652
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: talked about how in her first season she was not

653
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: liked and now she's feeling that again, and it'll be

654
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: interesting how she kind of adapts to that, because that's

655
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: what survivor is. You gotta adapt with the information that

656
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 4: you're given. And I feel like she was given like

657
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: pretty key information. Now she can use it to her vantage.

658
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: What was what do you think would be your baggage

659
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: if you were going back into another season.

660
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: So my big guests fault was I was I was

661
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: too loyal.

662
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 4: I could have done something that would have won me

663
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: the game, and people like say, it's literally the reason

664
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: why I lost, And it was to take Rizzo's idol

665
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: because I had the ability to do it. And my

666
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: thing is I fall in love with people too quickly,

667
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: and like, even though I know the right decision is

668
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: to maybe cut them, I.

669
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: Just I couldn't do it. So I feel like I

670
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: would have to.

671
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: Remind myself to be a little more cutthroat and not

672
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: make nice when you're back in the States. But like

673
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: play a cutthroat game Survivor because you have to in

674
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: order to win, right, that's what people respect.

675
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because in a weird way, the fact that

676
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Rizzo didn't vote for you in the jury indicates that

677
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: saving that relationship didn't matter exactly.

678
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: Right, exactly, and that that's what the reminder I kind

679
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: of needed.

680
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 3: If I ever go back, that'll be what I do.

681
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, either way, you you you might not

682
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: even need to be so nice because they might respect

683
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: the cutthroatness.

684
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so interesting, Like I just you know,

685
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I've never done a reality show

686
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, like want to do one, is just because

687
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: I I definitely would I take things so personally, you know,

688
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: like I and I feel like there's there's you know,

689
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: there's like once an episode of Survivor, there's somebody who's

690
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: just crying because there's like nobody likes me or I'm

691
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: annoying everybody or whatever. I feel like that would be me.

692
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I would just be So did you ever have that moment?

693
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever have that like, man, I'm just or

694
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: did you kind of always feel like nope, I'm I'm

695
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: playing a game. I know who I am and I'm fine.

696
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like it was towards the end

697
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: where I where I when you have to make that

698
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: decision between your actual friends because I was lucky enough

699
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: to like be able.

700
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: To cut people off and vote people off that.

701
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: I wasn't really close to, and it made sense for me.

702
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: But then when you get to a certain point, like in.

703
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: Order to win, you you have to outlast.

704
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: Everybody, so you have to make those tough decisions and

705
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: cut those people. So that's when I when I would

706
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 4: have those moments of like, damn, I don't know I

707
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: could do this.

708
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: And then well, so you're when.

709
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: You say, like my actual friends, Like that's so interesting

710
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: because you know, and it happens in this episode too.

711
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: It seems like there's such a key distinction between like

712
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: alliances that people make because they're they're good and they

713
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: trust one another, they're not gonna lie and then like

714
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: just kind of bonding with somebody and like just being like, no, no,

715
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: I actually just kind of like you, you know, and like

716
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: it happens later in this episode, I think with Emily

717
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: and Angelina, like there's this this bonding moment where they're like,

718
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: I actually just like you. I don't know if I

719
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: can vote for you, and I'm like that must happen,

720
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: so you know where you're just like, well, regardless of

721
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: my gameplay, I'm just friends with this person.

722
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: No. It happens so much more often than you think.

723
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: And that's that's the hard part about survivor, Like, because

724
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: you're also surviving with these people, you're getting so close

725
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: to them because you're in this weird situation where like you.

726
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: Have to lean on each other.

727
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: And luckily that that's what worked out for me, Savanna Rizzo,

728
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: Like we liked each other, we bonded, but it also

729
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: made sense for us to work together in the game.

730
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: But there were a ton of other people in my

731
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: where I loved them as people, but I had to

732
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: make a tough decision, you know, to move myself forward.

733
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: So it happens all.

734
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: Right over at the New Sila tribe, Camilla is like

735
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: super happy with the shelter and surprised because she knows

736
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: they didn't have Flint and Siri and Devin's there's like

737
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: four Callo members and Rizzo's the only one from Vatu

738
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: and surprise.

739
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: I was surprised. He didn't seem that bummed about it.

740
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: He wasn't like, oh my god, I'm on the bottom.

741
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm screwed. He just immediately was like, Okay, who do

742
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: I connect with? How do I play this? Which he's

743
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: got a good attitude it is.

744
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all Rizzo is.

745
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Though.

746
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: I remember on our season we were at the bottom

747
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: at the merge, like we were the only three that

748
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: were left out of a seven a ten person vote,

749
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: so seven people voted one way, us three voted the

750
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: other way.

751
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: And I was like, Brizil, what are we gonna do?

752
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: We're so screwed, and he's.

753
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: Like, hey, it's fun to play from the bottom because

754
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: what do we have to lose? And so I know

755
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: that was his mentality at that moment. He's like, Okay,

756
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: this is this is another opportunity to make like it's

757
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: never over until your torch is snuffed on Survivor, and

758
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: I think that's what people always have to remind yourself,

759
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: remind themselves stay optimistic.

760
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, oh yeah, So I'm so bad

761
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: at this gamp. I would love. I love to like

762
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: being outside surviving part, but I would be so bad

763
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: at strategy. I would be I feel like you wouldn't be.

764
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: I feel like you would have you would have a

765
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: really good, at least social game.

766
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying, like I'm learning, so like I

767
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: feel like maybe i could tell myself all the right things,

768
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: but I'm just also so like emotional and so moody,

769
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: and I'm so like I just think I would Yeah,

770
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: I think you know, like right now, like I've been

771
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: saying that Ozzie's like my guy, and I think that's

772
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: partly because that's how I would play. Like I would

773
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: just be like, no, I'm just gonna be nice and

774
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: provide for the tribe, and then everybody's not gonna like

775
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: me and they won't vote me out. It's like, no,

776
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: they probably vote you. And to my detriment, I wouldn't

777
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: even have Ozzy's physical capability, so I would just be

778
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: losing on all fronts. Anyways, that then this interesting moment

779
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: with like Jonathan and they're they're talking. They're talking about

780
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Surri and d She's saying that her friend back home

781
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: was like, if you're ever on a tribe with Suri

782
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: voter out, which is hysterical because it's like it is

783
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: good advice.

784
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: But then both her and Johnthy are like, but.

785
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: We like Cerise, yeah, And that's like Seri's power though.

786
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: She's so it's kind of scary because you're in her,

787
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: you're almost like getting misted by her, but you don't

788
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: even realize, and like they know, their logical mind is

789
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: telling them don't trust her, but then they're like, but

790
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: I like her.

791
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Soure charisma, right, It's like she just has like this

792
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: natural charisma and it's not overpowering, like it doesn't. It's

793
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: it's not like somebody whose personality is like front and center.

794
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: It's like she prays. Well, she's like, yeah, she's just

795
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: part of the crew and she gets along with everybody

796
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: and they like her. And then meanwhile she's really really plain. Yeah,

797
00:33:46,320 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: super interesting. All right over at the new Vatu, You've got,

798
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: Mike is the only callo, but he knows everybody. He's

799
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: got this trio from the David and Goliath season and

800
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: Q tells Auzzy that he and Genevieve sent him the idol,

801
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: and they go along with Emily. They kind of rope Emily,

802
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: and Emily immediately shares that Aubrey has an idol, which

803
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, okay, which is interesting because

804
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: Emily's usually she's, if I remember correctly, she's a pretty

805
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: good strategic player.

806
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: She is, she's strategic, but she can get a little

807
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: messy too. I think she gets paranoid and it gets

808
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: the best of her. And that's exactly what happened here.

809
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: She overthought, like she overanalyzed the situation, I think, and

810
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: then she realized, oh crap, I thought too much about

811
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 4: this and it's not the right move, and she tried

812
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: to backtrack. But I don't know if she did irreversible

813
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: damage because Christian it sent him into a spiral.

814
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: He was like, do we know?

815
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the fact that then she goes and tells

816
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: him that she told everybody, you know, it's like she

817
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: sort of just blew up her own game for no reason.

818
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: And it's and yeah, it actually works kind of in

819
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: Christian's favor, and like the way he's like, no, no, it's

820
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. But uh yeah, super interesting that she

821
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: just sort of fumbled the ball here of this entire moment,

822
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: like she did you know she was.

823
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean it ended up working out and that she

824
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: did get voted out.

825
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: It was cute, but I could have definitely blown up

826
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: in her face, and maybe it will later, but it was.

827
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 4: It was definitely fun to watch that whole spiral happen

828
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: because I do think Christian had good intentions by telling

829
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: her that Aubrey had the idol in case maybe she swopped, and.

830
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: She receives it that way. When he tells her, she's like, oh,

831
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: why you just didn't tell me, and he was like, yeah,

832
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, But it's weird that she just freaked out.

833
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: But she does have this bonding moment with Angelina where

834
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, and she tells her everything, like

835
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: here's all that's happening. So we'll see how this goes.

836
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's interesting. She's sort of like everybody's She's

837
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: in all the alliances, Emily, which is I guess a

838
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: good place to be because you're right, you know, she

839
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: was never on the jobbing block. So all right over

840
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: at the new Callo, Genevieve is doing the rounds going

841
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: to like Joe Coach and Chrissy and trying to turn

842
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: everybody on Aubrey, except she talks to Tiffany, and Tiffany

843
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: goes right to Aubrey and these two sort of bond

844
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: and seem like a you know, it's really interesting to

845
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: me how much people don't like Aubrey this season.

846
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: Like, I know, I was so surprised because I liked

847
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: Aubrey going into this season, and I feel like when

848
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: I was playing on it, I would want to work

849
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 4: with her because she can be loyal, She's very smart,

850
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: and I don't know, it was very shocking to me

851
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: that she's not kind of integrating that well with these tribes.

852
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: But what'd you think about Genevieve.

853
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: Kind of going around and kind of telling her name

854
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: and trying to build these connections.

855
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: I think it's always bad to be that aggressive, do

856
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like at the second you're

857
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: telling people like why the good? You know, it's like

858
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think she has really that much, you know,

859
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: like I don't know if she has much to present

860
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: other than like we should just target this person. It's

861
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: like okay, and it's like let's just have a scapegoat,

862
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: but it's so weird to me, like the way the

863
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: fact that it was the last episode where everybody went

864
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: through Aubrey's bag and was like totally fine with that, Like,

865
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: how did that make you feel? Does does that stuff

866
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: happen all the time out there? Is that?

867
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: Just like so, yeah, I actually did that on the

868
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 4: last season and I found someone's idle, so it could

869
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: work in your favor, and it's not. And I see

870
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: a lot of people being like, it's such an invasion

871
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 4: of privacy and it is. But Survivor bags are different

872
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: than like a purse back at home, like nobody it's

873
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: it has like our dirty clothes in there, nobody, it's

874
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: not offensive to look through it, but and sometimes it

875
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: might help you in the game. So you got to

876
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: go into Survivor assuming like people might look through your

877
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: bag and you might have to look us through someone's bag.

878
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: So it is Oh, this is a question that's come up.

879
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to bring anything personal like a diary

880
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: or a pen, paper?

881
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: No?

882
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: Nothing, No, you get like a luxury item in terms

883
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: of like clothing, like I got this warm sweater that

884
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: I would.

885
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: Use and you know, to cover myself when it was cold.

886
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: But that'sh it, Okay, Yeah, let's talk about because Will

887
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: was baffled by the temperature, by the different clothings. Some

888
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: people are like in jackets and hoodies and other people

889
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: are wearing shorts the whole time. So is it just

890
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: like crazy temperature swings.

891
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: Yes, especially on our season, it was so hot, like

892
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 3: scorching hot. During the day. People would almost have exhaustion.

893
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: Like this guy Nate would literally pass out after every

894
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: challenge and he would need medical to like put.

895
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: Ice on his chest.

896
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: But then at night it would get so cold, and

897
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: you see us that tribal council, like we're full of

898
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,479
Speaker 4: sweaters or like even in the mornings, you're like still

899
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: recovering from your body being so cold at night that

900
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: people are still wearing their like hoodies or whatever. It's

901
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: it's the temperature changes are crazy and Fiji.

902
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: But the ocean temperature is lovely.

903
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ocean temperature is great.

904
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: But you still don't even want to go in there

905
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: because we don't have towels to dry ourselves off.

906
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: So if you go in the water, you're wet all day.

907
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: What about sunscreen?

908
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: Do you get sunscreen?

909
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: You do get a little sunscreen, Yeah, yeah.

910
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Okay, but no makeup. No one's going like made up

911
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: for their you get a mirror.

912
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: No. I didn't see myself for twenty six days.

913
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: I was wondering if because I mean, people tend to

914
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: look pretty good on this show, like I know, and

915
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm always like they do they give them before then interview,

916
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: like a flash of like here's your shot looks just

917
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: so you know, Okay, that's cool. It's it's it's more natural.

918
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: Than yeah this. So I had this clip.

919
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: I had, not this one specifically, but a clip like this,

920
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: and I would just brush my hair with it like

921
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: this because I didn't have anything else.

922
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: So we would find a creative ways to to, you know,

923
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: do ourselves up.

924
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: There was a lady once who used like the soot

925
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 4: from the fire to contour her face.

926
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: Like put makeup on. So yeah, if people get creative

927
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: out there, like we always have this time. So but no,

928
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 3: no makeup, no brush.

929
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: I think on day twenty six I saw myself for

930
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: the first time because they gave us a breakfast, like

931
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: a celebratory breakfast, and the knives were reflective, so there

932
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: was like a mirror.

933
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh my god, like this is

934
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: what I look like, yeah, it's pretty crazy.

935
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah never, I mean yeah, I mean I've gone backpack

936
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: in so maybe the most I've gone is like five days.

937
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: And I do remember it reached that point where like, oh,

938
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: I've looked at my face and a mirror for a

939
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: while and it's a it's a shock when you see

940
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: it again. What about the bug situation? Are there bugs

941
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: all over the place?

942
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so bad. It's really it's so bad.

943
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: I remember there was one day I was bored because

944
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 4: you get bored, and I started counting the bug bites

945
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: from just here to here, and it was like thirty seven.

946
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: It was like, like just bug bites everywhere.

947
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 4: So that's also another reason why people cover up because

948
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: they don't.

949
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Want to get bit Oh my god, that's my nightmare

950
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: because I'm like, so mosquitoes just love me.

951
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: I would be so eaten.

952
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. It's really bad.

953
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: And so here's here's something I love to keep getting

954
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: off the recap, just survivor stuff. How did you, like,

955
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: how did you prepare to go on the show? Did

956
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: you like know how to build a shelter? I mean,

957
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: because it seems like all this information is pretty much

958
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: out there now, right, like yeah, building a fire, building

959
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: a shelter, like all that was it has become kind

960
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: of standard and all before you go on or did

961
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: you still not know things?

962
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know how to do anything except for like

963
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: I trained myself a little bit to use a flint

964
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: and build a fire. But then like everything goes out

965
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 4: the window when you get there because again, like I

966
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: was on the losing tribe, so we didn't get flint,

967
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 4: so I didn't have fire for eleven days. So the

968
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: game is constantly changing, And honestly, I think the best

969
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: thing to do is not prepare at all, because when

970
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: you get there, it's.

971
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, because what are you going to do?

972
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: I think the best thing is like maybe maybe start

973
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: like fast for a little bit, learn train your body

974
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: to get used to that.

975
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: But other than that, I don't know. I don't think

976
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: there's much you could do. I mean, look at Rizzo.

977
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: He did so well, and I don't think he's He's

978
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: not like someone who works out every day and I'm not.

979
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: That either, and we went pretty far in the game.

980
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: So I think the strategy and the social part is

981
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 4: more important than the physical.

982
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Right right, which it didn't used to be that way

983
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: at all, Like I feel like early Seasons it was

984
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: so physical and like yeah, interesting, Okay. Over at the

985
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: new Sila, Rizzo starts speaking out, did you know that

986
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: he had this this? Yeah, that's awesome, And then he

987
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: tells Charlie about the Billie Eilish idols, and then we

988
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: get this flashback to talking.

989
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: About you, which I love.

990
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: It was so funny.

991
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: This was like there was nothing new in this for

992
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: you to hear, like, this is exactly what.

993
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 4: You Yeah, because in real life we're genuinely us three

994
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: are like best friends, like we talk every day. I

995
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: even knew he was going to kind of say stuff

996
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: like that because I knew he wanted to distance himself

997
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 4: from Savannah, so he obviously when they asked him, who's

998
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 4: your best friend from forty nine, he wasn't gonna say Savannah,

999
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: So he said his other best to me, And I

1000
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: didn't expect him to say my full name and talk

1001
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: about that. And I also thought it was surprising that

1002
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: he said that he didn't vote for me because he

1003
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: knows the baggage that Charlie carries. Yeah, yeah, So it

1004
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 4: didn't make sense totally because he was trying to help

1005
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: his game by distancing himself from sav but also like

1006
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: did the opposite.

1007
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: So what do you think about that?

1008
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: It was a weird moment, like, you know, and I

1009
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: think I actually think it was.

1010
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: It was.

1011
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just like not like it. I wouldn't.

1012
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: I would have not thought ahead to like, oh, Charlie

1013
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: might read this this way, do you know what I mean? Like,

1014
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: I would not have thought ahead, so I would have

1015
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: probably done the same thing, same thing.

1016
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he probably just didn't assume Charlie was gonna

1017
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 4: be still stuck on that. I thought it was a

1018
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: little overreaction too from Charlie.

1019
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: But it's true.

1020
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 4: People again, like they have the baggage from their old sistring.

1021
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: It right, Yeah, and it's yeah, you got to just

1022
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: go with your gut and sometimes and it seems like

1023
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: that that it's set off an alarm bell for him.

1024
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out,

1025
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: because I don't think, yeah, I don't, I don't know,

1026
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like these two actually would work

1027
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: very well together if they decided to like trust one another.

1028
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: They're very similar.

1029
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 4: They're really like rebrol strategic, like the guys. So I

1030
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: feel like I could do well together, kind of like

1031
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 4: Aubrey and Genevieve's, but they're choosing not to work together,

1032
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: so it'd be interesting, all right.

1033
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: So then we get to the immunity challenge. Is this

1034
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: blindfold thing that they've done a bunch that's a survivor

1035
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: Did you have to do this one?

1036
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: No?

1037
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: Think I'm so happy because I feel like people get hurt.

1038
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I would hate this one because I'd just be like, yeah, everybody,

1039
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: every time they do this, somebody hits their head on something.

1040
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, Like that would be so bad.

1041
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: And maybe I could be.

1042
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: A caller, but I would never want to be one

1043
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: of the people actually going through it. So it's chaos

1044
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: with like getting giant rings and throwing the poles. Sila

1045
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: takes the lead. They get to the puzzle way ahead

1046
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: of everyone, and Charlie and and Rizzo like very similar

1047
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: players like you're saying, and good strategic players. They get

1048
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: to the puzzle and they just win it pretty quickly.

1049
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Ozzie and Q and with Christian calling, lose this immunity challenge.

1050
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Back at the VATU camp, Christian is all apologetic. It's

1051
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: interesting that nobody even really considers Sam, You know, I

1052
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: don't really blame I was. I'm fascinated by that, like

1053
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: how the blame works. And that's a question I've had,

1054
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: like how much because they usually don't show the strategy

1055
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: conversation before a challenge, like how long do you have

1056
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: from when you like they show you the challenge? Do

1057
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: they actually have people walk through it in front of you?

1058
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 3: So actually, Jeff does it. He will go with each

1059
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: tribe and walk.

1060
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: You through every single part of the courts and then

1061
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: you can ask him all your questions and he'll tell you.

1062
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: But it only happens once.

1063
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: You only get one shot of that and then you

1064
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: have literally thirty seconds to decide who gets what.

1065
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: That's it.

1066
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't let you talk at all.

1067
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: God, I thought that was like a big part of

1068
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: the game where you'd have to sit there and be

1069
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: like I thought you'd have like five minutes at least

1070
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: to be like I'm going to do this, and then

1071
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: you do that.

1072
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I wish, I wish, but they don't.

1073
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: It's part of like why it's kind of difficult.

1074
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: You have to make the decision on the fly, and

1075
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: then you get back to camp and then you plan

1076
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: next time. Hey, if it's a puzzle, you're going to

1077
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: do this because you sucked at it last time, so

1078
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: you can have kind of talk about it before.

1079
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: But we still don't know what you're going to go

1080
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: to next.

1081
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 4: So but on there you only get like thirty seconds,

1082
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: which is crazy.

1083
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: All right. So uh, back at the VATU camp, Christian's

1084
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: apologizing and Mike just tells Stephanie that he's probably voting for,

1085
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: which is a crazy bold move that he's I feel

1086
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: like only Mike White can get away with some of

1087
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like he's just like everybody likes him. He's

1088
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: a great social player. He's just a great player. It's amazing. Yeah,

1089
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: and then that kind of scrambles Stephanie and Q Q

1090
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have a vote, and it comes down to this,

1091
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, basically asking Ozzie to turn on Q, which

1092
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do because he doesn't want to

1093
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: lose challenges, which I think is a very good argument

1094
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: because I'm like, if you keep losing your big strong players,

1095
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: like I don't don't know, but sure enough at the tribal,

1096
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: like I want to hear about tribal from your point

1097
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: of view, because like my theory is that like the best.

1098
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: The whole point of tribal and the whole challenge of

1099
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: tribal is to go in and basically talk without saying anything.

1100
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Is that an accurate Yeah?

1101
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still playing the game when you're there, answer

1102
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: your questions.

1103
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: And so everybody just keeps their like generic vague. It's

1104
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: like how poetic and like nonspecific can you be, but

1105
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: it's still basically signaling to the people that you're true

1106
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: to what you said you were going to do, right,

1107
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah.

1108
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 4: And it's funny because I see fans all the time

1109
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: complaining about how many analogies are set at tribal.

1110
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: It's like that because we.

1111
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: Can't be literal or else people will read into what

1112
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: we're saying and they'll come for us.

1113
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: And and usually I.

1114
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 4: Would say, like ninety percent of the time, you're going

1115
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: to tribal council and everybody knows what's happening, like at

1116
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: least if you're on the right side of the boat, right,

1117
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: it's set in stone.

1118
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: Who's going home?

1119
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: Unless they get up and they start talking, that's when

1120
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: it kind of gets murky.

1121
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, did that happen at your season? Did people get

1122
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: up the spring?

1123
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 4: It happen on my season, I think twice, but even

1124
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: then the person that was supposed to go home went home.

1125
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: It's honestly fun when it changes.

1126
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 4: And maybe, hey, maybe with like the whole Rick idol,

1127
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: like something crazy will happen this season. I feel like

1128
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: it will because they keep showing that something happens with

1129
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: that idol.

1130
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: So wait, so you're saying that when you went to

1131
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: tribal you pretty much were confident on how it was

1132
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: going to go. Yes, and it pretty much went that

1133
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: way every time.

1134
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: And like they I think the way they edit it

1135
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: is like, so it's kind.

1136
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: Of a toss up, right, but the truth is.

1137
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're working around that.

1138
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: When Jeff's I answer your questions, you don't want to

1139
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: give that away, or they might play their shot in

1140
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: the dark, or they'll they'll do some hail Mary at

1141
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: tribal where they'll try to change the vote.

1142
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: So you really are like.

1143
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: Just walking on eggshells, and it's part of like the game,

1144
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 4: Like Tribal Council and answering Jeff's questions is part of

1145
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: like the whole game, which is interesting.

1146
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: It just seems like, yeah, the amateur player move is

1147
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: to just start talking about what you're doing. It's actually strategy,

1148
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: like well, I'm vote for so and so exactly. It's

1149
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: like the worst thing that you can do. It's such

1150
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: a weird process.

1151
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: I would be so bad at it.

1152
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 3: Whole mind old mind, screw, Like it's crazy.

1153
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: Are you paranoid the entire time you're out there?

1154
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty But that's why it's so important to

1155
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 4: have people that you trust. And and Tocque's point of

1156
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: like keeping the tribes strong or to kind of go

1157
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: against that is like, at the end of the day,

1158
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: if you're if you have people that you don't have

1159
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: your back, like that's more important than than keeping the

1160
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 4: tribes strong.

1161
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: And so it was scary because you never know too.

1162
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: With all the twists and the swaps, like anything could

1163
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: happen and survivor so you always have your guard up.

1164
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: So they ultimately vote Q out. What do you what

1165
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: do you think of this? How's this going to go

1166
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: for them?

1167
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: I think it's a tragedy.

1168
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: I feel like we're going to miss out on so

1169
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 4: much good TV without Q. But at the same time,

1170
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 4: like any good reason to vote someone out this early

1171
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: is a good reason, and any reason actually, but like

1172
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: he kind of told people vote me out, and that's

1173
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: a strategy that worked for him on forty six, but

1174
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 4: in this case, Mike was like, oh, you're giving me

1175
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: permission about you aw, I guess I will. And that's

1176
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: ultimately what happened. And I think he was just a

1177
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: casualty of a swap.

1178
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: That didn't work in his favor. And yeah, it is

1179
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: what it is. It's sad.

1180
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also sad, like it goes back. Like you know,

1181
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: I've always said, like, don't ever take a journey, don't

1182
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: ever do anything, which he you know, because he did

1183
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: lose his vote, like he yeah, he did that early on.

1184
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: That was like day one, you know, he trade and

1185
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: Ozzie convinced him to take the supplies and lose his vote.

1186
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: And I wonder how much he's regretting that, but he

1187
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, they do talk about Q as a somewhat

1188
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: chaotic player, and there is a little bit of that.

1189
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: Like I he's whenever he's like strategizing and doing a thing,

1190
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I like what you're saying.

1191
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: I totally you know, But then.

1192
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Like from moment to moment, it's kind of he's just

1193
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: playing hard all the time. In like three different directions,

1194
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, given any given conversation, I'm totally with you,

1195
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: but then it seems like your next conversation is just

1196
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: as strong in this other direction. I'm like, dude, oh

1197
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: so yeah, he played bold loud.

1198
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: It didn't work in his favor. It worked on season

1199
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: forty six a little bit, but yeah.

1200
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: I think what's sad about Season fifty is like everyone

1201
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: is so routable and fun to watch, so anytime anyone

1202
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: goes home, you're like, damn, we're gonna.

1203
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: Miss out on them. But it is what it is.

1204
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 4: He got He got caught in the crossfires of a swap,

1205
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: so that sucks.

1206
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: So how long ago were you actually on an island,

1207
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: Like like six months ago.

1208
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: We got back in like late May, so we left

1209
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: April and came back late.

1210
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: May, so it's been it's been a minute. It's it.

1211
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, But yeah, you miss it in a weird, like

1212
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 4: crazy way. I do, because I've already forgotten all the

1213
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: suffering because while I was out.

1214
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: There, I was like, I'm never doing this crap again.

1215
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 3: This is so hard. Of course, of course, but then

1216
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: when you come out.

1217
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 4: Of it, it's like you forget about that and and

1218
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: you just want to go back, like you missed the

1219
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: island and all that, and it's it's crazy.

1220
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: I would do it again in a heartbeat. It's so

1221
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: much fun.

1222
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, So how is this? How

1223
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: how has this affected your life?

1224
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: Like?

1225
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: How is like what is your day to day life?

1226
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: How has it impacted like regular life for Sophie?

1227
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: Like is it?

1228
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: So? I think it just in like.

1229
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 4: It's made me like more bold and it's maybe believing

1230
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: myself a lot more. And I say yes to a

1231
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: lot of things now because it does open opportunities and

1232
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and I feel like before I was

1233
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: closed off to that, but now I don't know, It's

1234
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: opened my my world up to so many things, like

1235
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: freaking talking to you is insane.

1236
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: Like the fact that I'm here, Like what the hell

1237
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: is my life? But yeah, I don't know. And I'm

1238
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: such a fan of the show.

1239
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: I feel like it's only brought positive things because I

1240
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: used to just watch it. I would have watched He's

1241
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: in fifty as a fan naturally, But now I'm actually

1242
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 4: like ingrained in the community.

1243
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm an alumni. People like respected and liked my game.

1244
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: So I'm just this has been a freaking you know,

1245
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: thrill and a ride of lifetime, and I'm just grateful

1246
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: for it.

1247
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: So that's awesome.

1248
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you like planning to do more sort

1249
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: of reality stuff, competition stuff.

1250
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think so. I like my little life.

1251
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to, you know, change it too much.

1252
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: But if Survivor Jeff Probes calls me again, I'll be there.

1253
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 4: They know I'll be there in a heartbeat. So I

1254
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: don't think you'll see me anywhere else. Maybe the Traders,

1255
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 4: I would The Traders.

1256
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: Is so fun. How could you say no to that?

1257
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: I know? But would you ever do the Traders?

1258
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1259
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: I would be horrible.

1260
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Will wants to do it and like he would be great,

1261
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: but like, no, I'm so I get so tense about

1262
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: lying and hiding. I would rather do Survivor, I think,

1263
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: because I think I could focus on the like, you know,

1264
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: being out on the wh Yeah, and like I just

1265
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: I like what you're describing about that experience of like

1266
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: being so miserable, you know. And Mike says that during

1267
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: this tribal he's like the highs are so or the

1268
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: lows are so low that then the highs are so high.

1269
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Like I know that feeling from backpacking where you're just

1270
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: like having showered and you you know, eating just dehydrated

1271
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: food and you're just like oh and you're sore. But

1272
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: then when you take that shower when you get home

1273
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is the grip I have survived.

1274
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: I have like done something. So I can't imagine what

1275
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: that's like after twenty some days or thirty days, Like

1276
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: that's that. I feel like that is such a life

1277
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: affirming experience that I would love to have. You know,

1278
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: that interests me way more than I you know, being

1279
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: on camera and doing all the like the gameplay stuff,

1280
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: which is what traders just is just the comfort of

1281
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: a castle and like retail room and then just the

1282
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: play the gameplay and manipulation and paranoia. I don't know,

1283
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: it is a I don't know. I do love a castle.

1284
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: I like the style. I mean, I'm not a beach person,

1285
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: so that would be a problem for me.

1286
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 3: Oh, that would be a big problem. Stand everywhere. You

1287
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: can never get it off. It's bad.

1288
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1289
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thank you so much for doing this, Sophie.

1290
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for reaching

1291
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: out and I'm so glad that you were able to

1292
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: do this.

1293
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 3: I know me too. I appreciate it, and I look

1294
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: forward to hearing your episodes every week.

1295
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: With Will.

1296
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 4: I'm kind of grateful he wasn't here because I got

1297
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: to be here. So thank you, Thank you seriously for

1298
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: having me.

1299
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: This is fun, of course. All right, talk to you soon,

1300
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon.

1301
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: Bye, guys.

1302
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: All right, you've been listening to Pod meets Twirl. The

1303
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: torches may be snuffed, but our questionable analysis burns on.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time at tribal.

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Speaker 3: HM. Hm