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Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast, named vest vetting Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Or radio show by the Fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Sports and Gaming Association and the number one show for

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Speaker 1: the invested sports fan. All Right, here we go fifteen, twenty,

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Speaker 1: it stumble, the fall, the lateral to counter on the.

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Speaker 2: Inside, get you the lad.

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Speaker 1: Table off the field to night. It's not the sage

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Speaker 1: of the game, it's the sage of the fight. What's

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Speaker 1: up the general nation? Welcome to the Network podcast. This

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Speaker 1: is the College Football Betting Preview, Part one. I'm stucky

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Speaker 1: and joining me as always is Colin Wilson. These college

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Speaker 1: football previews that they're in flux and it's gonna get weird,

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Speaker 1: but at least we're here. We're gonna talk college football.

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Speaker 1: So it does feel good to be back, even though

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Speaker 1: we are in flux. What's going on, Colin?

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Speaker 2: There's a range of excitement when you and I start

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Speaker 2: College Football podcast, which we've been doing I think is

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Speaker 2: our fourth year going on now. There's this range of

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Speaker 2: you know, everything from exciting and the days dragon because

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for week zero and That's what I

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Speaker 2: have right now, except we may not have a season.

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Speaker 2: So I'm on the brink of complete excitement and the

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Speaker 1: And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's up at a fall. Hopefully we get some games.

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Speaker 2: It could get pushed off to the spring. Every day

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Speaker 2: it's just brand new news.

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Speaker 1: By the way, congrats on your Morikawa future. I was

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Speaker 1: rooting for a lot. A lot of people seem to

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Speaker 1: things about Quarantine is that I've gotten into, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: appreciate golf more. We have a lot of people on

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Speaker 1: the action app that specialize in specific sports and they

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Speaker 1: do a really good job, you know, such as NASCAR,

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Speaker 1: UFC Zero has been killing UFC, so, you know, appreciating

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Speaker 1: flip side, look there's all my you know, my breadwinner sports,

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Speaker 1: I bet it and cap it all summer long. Tennis.

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Speaker 1: I am watching tennis all day, betting tennis all summer.

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Speaker 1: So I haven't had baseball and tennis. So I've never

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Speaker 1: been more prepared for college football and NFL. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all this free time that I normally would be, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I've never been more prepared in my life. And

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge believer, and like you obviously have to

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Speaker 1: have a model in your number, but there's also a

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Speaker 1: big subjective edge, right, and that's understanding you know, returning production,

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Speaker 1: certain schemes and which will be more important if we

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Speaker 1: looks like we're gonna go to conference on these seasons.

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Speaker 1: But regardless of what happens, we're gonna be prepared. How

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Speaker 2: You know, preparation scale. I've said this, The numbers were

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Speaker 2: of morphed into teaching myself how to do our studio

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Speaker 2: and then in the meantime, it's a testament to what

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Speaker 2: So Greg Sank, the SEC commissioner, came out and said

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Speaker 3: date that they canceled the game, you know against we'll

432
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Speaker 3: say Bowling Green. So if you're Bowling Green, yeah, you

433
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: have a you would I would think you would have

434
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Speaker 3: a good case. They canceled the game, they said they

435
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 3: couldn't play then, but now they're playing a different game

436
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Speaker 3: on that day. So that's what I think favors the

437
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Speaker 3: Group of five. When I talk to the Power leagues,

438
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, look, we're canceling games as a conference.

439
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: They're a thing called force masure. If you want to

440
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: look it up. It basically gets you out of the

441
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 3: contract for these type of situations. So the Power five

442
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 3: schools are kind of banking on that, and also that

443
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: you know, hey, look, our entire conference canceled the game.

444
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 3: We didn't cancel it. We couldn't play the game. Our

445
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: conference above us canceled it out. They think that gets

446
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: them off the hook, even if it doesn't. What I'm

447
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: hearing from the Power five folks is go ahead and

448
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: sue us. If you win, you'll get your million or

449
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: one point five million, whatever it is. You know, by

450
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: the way, no one's ever going to play you again

451
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: from the power leagues because you file a lawsuit to

452
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: get that during this pandemic situation. So once again, the

453
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: non Power five schools ultimately are going to be screwed.

454
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Speaker 3: But I think that's that's what would happen.

455
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Speaker 2: The MAC is so dependent on the Big Ten, the

456
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: Sun Belt is so dependent on ACC and SEC, and

457
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Speaker 2: so I have to ask this question because this is

458
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Speaker 2: the scary question. Plenty of schools, particularly Stanford, are eliminating

459
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Speaker 2: multiple sports, and you know there's a possibility that you know,

460
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Speaker 2: this could happen. I hate to ask this, but out

461
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Speaker 2: of the one hundred and thirty teams. Is there a

462
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Speaker 2: possibility of some of the FBS members folding on football

463
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Speaker 2: or maybe some of the FCS teams. Is there a

464
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Speaker 2: possibility these teams folding on football and not being a

465
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Speaker 2: member any more of the college football world.

466
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Speaker 3: If there is no football in fall or spring of

467
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one academic year, I think quille lose

468
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: some group of five schools, they'll drop football. I think

469
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Speaker 3: they'll either drop football or they will drop to the

470
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Speaker 3: FCS level. You know, in the past few months, I've

471
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Speaker 3: been doing a lot of stories talking to all the

472
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Speaker 3: different athletic directors, and one quote that I got from

473
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Speaker 3: a group of five ad way back in April when

474
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Speaker 3: this first started, seems like it was one hundred years ago,

475
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: but it's only a few months ago. I said, what

476
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Speaker 3: happens if we don't have foot if there's no football

477
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 3: in the fault, there's no football in the spring? He

478
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: goes Brett. It's simple. If that happens, we're all bleaked.

479
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 3: That's the reality of it. I mean, you've that is

480
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 3: the money maker for all of these athletic departments. You know,

481
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 3: you lose all of that money and you've got to

482
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Speaker 3: make cuts somewhere, and we were, as you mentioned, we're

483
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Speaker 3: already seeing it now with a lot of Group of

484
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Speaker 3: five schools cutting non revenue sports. Stanford cut eleven sports,

485
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: the first Power five school to cut sports. And guys,

486
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: this is just based on not having an NCAA men's

487
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: basketball tournament. This is based on the COVID financial implication

488
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: so far. This does not even consider in an abbreviated

489
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: football season, a season where maybe maximum of one fourth

490
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: of your fans would be able to come to the game.

491
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Speaker 3: So your gates down, your revenue is down, donations are down,

492
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Speaker 3: and all that or god forbid, if there's no football

493
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Speaker 3: at all, that doesn't even factor in all that stuff.

494
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Speaker 3: If that happens, the words I've gotten from these ads

495
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: are doomsday, catastrophic. It'll make the Great Depression look like

496
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Speaker 3: a cakewalk. So that's why they are trying everything they

497
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Speaker 3: can to try to get a season in somehow, some

498
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Speaker 3: way and try to recoup some of this football revenue

499
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Speaker 3: and TV revenue, because if they don't, it's going to

500
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: get very ugly then for everybody, I mean every Power

501
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: five schools are going to get dinged to. Certainly not

502
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Speaker 3: as bad as the group of five schools, but there

503
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 3: will be huge financial problems across the board for all

504
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Speaker 3: these universities.

505
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Speaker 2: If Rice, Houston and North Texas buck their respective conferences

506
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: and decide they're going to play each other, does that

507
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: make them money off of TV? Because it certainly doesn't

508
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: earn them money from going to travel to a Power

509
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Speaker 2: five and getting a payout, so they do. Does a

510
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Speaker 2: group of five have to play Power five to keep

511
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Speaker 2: their head above water? Or will it pay enough just

512
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Speaker 2: to play within g G five?

513
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Speaker 3: They need those games because, like you guys mentioned, Bowling

514
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: Green had two Big ten games, they lose over two

515
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: million dollars USF the schedule to play at Texas. If

516
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: Big twelve goes conference only, USF doesn't get its one

517
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: point nine million dollar pay day. So when all of

518
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: these group of five schools are sitting there making out

519
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: their budgets two or three years down the road, and

520
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: they looked at twenty twenty, they said, hey, you know,

521
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Speaker 3: for Bowling Green, Okay, well we got two million coming

522
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: in in twenty twenty when we go play these two games,

523
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: and so they've got they've probably already spent it, they've

524
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: probably already allocated it. For salaries, for building the facilities,

525
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: for recruit whatever it is. You know, it doesn't matter.

526
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: And now they find out, wait, we're not getting that

527
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: two million dollars. It's it's like you, if you know

528
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 3: any of us, if we're sitting there planning out our

529
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: budgets and you're like, hey, I'm getting X amount, you know,

530
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: October first because my employment or whatever's going on, and

531
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: so you've kind of spending because you think you got

532
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: that money coming in, and then you find out two

533
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: weeks before, I'm sorry, guys, you're not getting that. Then

534
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, what am I gonna do now? So

535
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: that's the situation they're in. I mean, really not playing

536
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: the Power five and just playing the Group of five

537
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: playing amongst each other or playing regional matchups. At this point,

538
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: they're just trying to save money. So yeah, for for Rice,

539
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: if it saves them money, could play you know, to

540
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: play play North Texas or play Houston out of the

541
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Speaker 3: American As opposed to fly into Miami to play FIU

542
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: or FA you or whoever, then yeah, I'm sure they're

543
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: going to try to do that. And I know the

544
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: Group of five schools said they're going to try to

545
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: do more regional scheduling. Can they do it just quickly

546
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: this year? I'm sure that's something they're trying to figure out.

547
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Plus you don't have they're not getting the big

548
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: payday if they're not playing these Power five schools, and

549
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: then they are if they are playing their conference schedule

550
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: and these smaller schools. We're assuming there's not gonna be

551
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: any fans. So you're losing that revenue too, whatever it

552
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: may be. You know, it's not as big as the

553
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Power five pay days, but it's another loss of a

554
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: potential revenue stream. A question I have for you, and

555
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: I think Colin and has some spring questions and then

556
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: we can get you out of here. But I really

557
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Look, these Power five teams don't want

558
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: to play a group of five schools. They want to,

559
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, reduce their risk as much as possible. They

560
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: want to play as few games as possible. Does that

561
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Speaker 1: mean if we get through the season, do you think

562
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: bowl games are dead? Or if we get through the

563
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: season we'll still have Bowl games.

564
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Speaker 3: No, Like you asked me a great question, I answer it,

565
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: and then I have like twenty more questions for myself.

566
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: So imagine what these guys are going through trying to

567
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: figure this all out. They would definitely try to still

568
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: play bowl games. I know that early on there was

569
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: some discussion. You know, there has been ideas floated of

570
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: moving the conference championship games back a week or two again,

571
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: trying to you know, play around the virus or whatever.

572
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: And there has been some talk, I don't know how

573
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: serious it was about moving bowl games into the month

574
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: of January. So I'm sure whatever bowl games that can

575
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: have a Bowl game will have a Bowl game. But

576
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: then you get into the fact that you know, I

577
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: don't know what the numbers are now, but ESPN owns

578
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: it may be somewhere belily like eight to fifteen. I

579
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: can't remember, but anyway, so those are just basically like,

580
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: those are just TV programming. Those are fun. Those are

581
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: going to air, whether there's one person in the crowd

582
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: or whether there's there's fifty thousand, those will air, no problem.

583
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: But it's the it's the non ESPN, non New Year

584
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: six games that you have to worry about because those

585
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: are the ones that make their money by the both

586
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: fan bases coming into town and spending money, and they're

587
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: run by the communities and all that stuff. If you

588
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: can only get a four to twenty five percent capacity

589
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: during the regular season, it's not all of a sudden

590
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: you're kind of balloon up to Oh, you can have

591
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: one hundred percent capacity for the bowl games. Plus those

592
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: Bowl games anyway, you've seen them on TV. They don't

593
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: draw many fans anyway, So you know, I don't know,

594
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: Balls ultimately will have to decide if they want to

595
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: go forward. But then you get into the tricky part

596
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: of well, if you don't have a bowl game, then

597
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: you're kind of breaking your contract with that conference, and

598
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: so what happens then? And then also I know there's

599
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: the fear that if a bowl game decides not to

600
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: be played this year, then it may not come back.

601
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: And that's a scary situation for some another thing which

602
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: nothing officially has happened. And I've heard this is the

603
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: way it's going. But believe me, they have more they

604
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: have more fires to put out before they get to this.

605
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: So if we end up with teams playing eight, nine,

606
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: ten games or whatever the doggy's question is, we'll had

607
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: about bull Elgabill. I've heard one possibility is we'll say

608
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: the ACC. So if the ACC I think they have

609
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 3: eleven bull slots right now. In the past, they couldn't

610
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: go to those games unless they were five hundred or better.

611
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: If we have limited number of games, or you have

612
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: games canceled so teams obviously can't play their full twelve games,

613
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: then it may simply be Look, the top eleven teams

614
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: in the ACC, you're going to go to a bowl game.

615
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: So if that eleventh place team in the ACC is

616
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: three and seven, then you could see a three and

617
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: seven team going to a bowl game. I know that

618
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: sounds crazy, but again, how do you choose a bowl

619
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Speaker 3: team If you're comparing a four and five team versus

620
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: a five and sixteen. You know, there's no simple way

621
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: to do it. There's certainly no head to heads or

622
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: anything like that. So they're trying to figure that out.

623
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Speaker 3: But again, that's that's way down the list. They just

624
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: want to get the season. They hope to have to

625
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: figure that out. You know, if the season can get going, let's.

626
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Speaker 2: Get a three and seven team in the Duke's Mayo Bowl,

627
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: right stock to replace the belt couple three and seven teams.

628
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: Dude, dude, and you'll and we'll all three watch it.

629
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh and oh and gamble and and tweet it against

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: articles and analysis. So I think this is really a

631
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: question I have to put on the table. I know,

632
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: I think I know the answer to this question. But

633
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: if the games are all moved to the spring, do

634
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: you expect any players that have that are you know,

635
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: could potentially go in the first three rounds at the

636
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Do you expect them to return to the

637
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: college field at all? And I'm thinking Trevor Lawrence, Travis

638
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: Et and Justin Fields, and a host of seniors that

639
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: play defense that you know. Mika parsons, it doesn't matter

640
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: that the list is endless of guys that may decide

641
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: not to play.

642
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: Have no I agree. I would ask you, guys, how

643
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: deep the draft? I mean how deep? How many rounds

644
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: do we have to go? The four guys will play?

645
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're projected to be top three, top four,

646
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Speaker 3: top five rounds, does anybody? Does anybody play in that situation?

647
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Speaker 3: This is like, you know, the guys that set out

648
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: the games, now we're asking them to play nine or

649
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: ten bowl games before the draft. I mean, do you

650
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: think when the schedule comes out? I mean, no, it's

651
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, just In Fields, to the Hubbard you know,

652
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. No, they're not going to play.

653
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Speaker 3: There's no way. I mean they're sitting there and the

654
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Speaker 3: schedule comes out and they're like, uh, you know, Trevor

655
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: Lawrence goes, oh wow, Clemson is playing at mc State

656
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: the same night as the NFL Draft. Now, I don't

657
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: think I'm going to play this year. I mean, I

658
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: don't blame the guys. It's unfortunate, but look, guys, if

659
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Speaker 3: they can't play in the fall, a lot of people

660
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: do want to play in the spring, because again, the

661
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: alternative is playing the spring and try to recoup some

662
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: of the revenue, whether it's a third and half whatever,

663
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Speaker 3: or punt the whole season. And if you punt the

664
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Speaker 3: whole season, as we talked about earlier, you know, the

665
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: financial implications would be devastating to so many schools. But

666
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Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean it's going to be oh my god,

667
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: there's yeah, there's going to be a ton of people

668
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Speaker 3: that won't play if we play in the spring. And

669
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Speaker 3: and yeah, the NFL is not going to move to

670
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Speaker 3: the draft have to help out college football. Don't even

671
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Speaker 3: worry about that.

672
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Speaker 1: That's a fact.

673
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Speaker 2: And your Twitter will be on twenty four hours a day,

674
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Speaker 2: because you have to imagine if some FBS group of

675
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Speaker 2: five schools don't play and there's a mass there's a

676
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Speaker 2: mass exodus of players from the Power five to the

677
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: NFL Draft, the transfer portal is going to be crazy.

678
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Speaker 2: The transfer portal would well, yeah, on fire, the wild

679
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Speaker 2: wild West.

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Speaker 1: If this happens in the.

681
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Speaker 3: Spring, well, hey, I got a question I want to

682
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Speaker 3: ask you guys real quick. So I've been wondering this.

683
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anybody report it. So, if we play

684
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Speaker 3: in the fall, but the crowds are limited to say,

685
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: twenty five percent capacity, how does that impact the point spread?

686
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Speaker 3: Do you make the teams that usually have ninety one

687
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: hundred thousand do you lower their numbers or does that

688
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: Does that not impact them at all? Because in theory,

689
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't that lessen their home field advantage.

690
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Speaker 1: We're going to get into this lot on the NFL podcast.

691
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: By the way, if you listen to this, Churs Raybon

692
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: and I do the NFL podcast. We'll have our preview

693
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Speaker 1: out today after you're listening to this. You know, so

694
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Speaker 1: NFL generally do field advantages too. I mean it's been

695
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: trending down towards like two and a half points, right,

696
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: and historically everyone says it's three points. And it's a

697
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: little different for each team like a Kansas City, of Seattle,

698
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: of Baltimore. You know, these teams that are much louder

699
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: with you know, outdoors, and you know there's obviously weather

700
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: components as well, but it's been trending down towards two

701
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: and a half. Teams are getting smarter about travel, the

702
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: reps are becoming more unbiased because of the NFL, and like,

703
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, you have replay obviously, you know you have

704
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: these nfls are trying to you know, hold their the

705
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: refs more accountable and you're starting you see a little

706
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: bit that in college. But yeah, there's a couple of

707
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: things in play. And I think generally the NFL points spread,

708
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I have it around one in a half to one

709
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: point seventy five for this year. Now that it will

710
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: depend on certain situations, it'll change. But you're you're really

711
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: trying to estimate how much does the and there's no

712
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: way to know it. There's no comparables, right, It's we're

713
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: trying to say the community having a tough time. This

714
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: is the kind of the secret but you know, I

715
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: think that there's part of it is it's harder to

716
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: run the ball historically for the road team because you

717
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: don't you don't hear the snap count, right, You're not

718
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: getting off the balls as much as you would if

719
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: you're not hearing it. There's also ref bias. There's still

720
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: ref biases exists in the NFL or College. So the

721
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: louder the crowd, the more influence they're going to have

722
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Speaker 1: over the refs. So there's a couple of things in play.

723
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: They can also influence the ref Cloudcrowds can also influence

724
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: coaches into being more aggressive and make more plus E

725
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: V decisions I think in certain instances. But yeah, I

726
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: mean that's one of the biggest questions. It's definitely going

727
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: to lower home field without fans, but just look at

728
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: Penn State. Ohio State goes to Penn State. The difference

729
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: between this could impact the College of Well playoffs. The

730
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: difference between a white out in Happy Valley, you know,

731
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Speaker 1: on a Saturday night against Ohio State versus an empty

732
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: beer stadium is significant, right, I Mean, it's a the

733
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Speaker 1: difference just mentally and just what it would look like,

734
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: and that could impact the whole season, So yeah, it's

735
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: definitely going to be lowered without fans how much that's

736
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: not that everyone's trying to figure out. I could tell

737
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: you for NFL, I've loaded about a point. But then

738
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to how complicated is travel? Right,

739
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: You could argue that with all these with COVID restrictions

740
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: and testing, and it's going to be hard to travel.

741
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: So you can make a case maybe it's not as

742
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: drastic because you have to account for that as well.

743
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's one of the million dollar questions of

744
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: the off season. You have an input there.

745
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Speaker 2: Com Yeah, I know my home field advantage is different

746
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: than everybody else in the world. I know it's different

747
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: than what ESPN puts out, what Phil Steel puts out,

748
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: and generally what I do is I take two and

749
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: a half points. You're granted two and a half points,

750
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: But then I look at what you've done the past

751
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: ten years, in the past three years against the spread

752
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: at home, and that tells me whether Vegas has been

753
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: able to properly peg you at home for how strong

754
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: that you are. If you're constantly covering the number at home,

755
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: then you should have a high home field advantage. If

756
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: you're constantly underachieving at home, then Vegas is overestimating what

757
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: your advantage actually is in your own territory. So I

758
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: think for me, the derivative is you're against this number

759
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: for the last ten to three year sample size against

760
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: two and a half. So from a mathematical perspective to

761
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: nerd out on everybody, I think that two and a

762
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: half has got to come down to one and a

763
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: half or it's got to come down to one, and

764
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: then you're going to be a derivative off of that

765
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: because homefield advantage just isn't going to be that much anymore.

766
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: And how do I know this. Brett's asking about twenty

767
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: five percent capacity in a college football stadium. I've just

768
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: seen two years of Chad Morris. We didn't even have

769
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: twenty five percent capacity in Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium,

770
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Speaker 2: So I can tell you right now it doesn't count

771
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: as much.

772
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: Pittman's coming, Baby Pittman. Well, yeah, I mean, Stucky makes

773
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: a great point. You know, the wide out of Penn

774
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: State a night Saturday night game at LSU. I mean,

775
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, again, obviously that's a lot of that's already

776
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: built into the number. But you just wonder, you know,

777
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: are we going to see more road teams if we

778
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 3: do have a season, road teams maybe enjoy a little

779
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: bit more success, maybe even just straight up than just

780
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: against the number, because there is not going to be

781
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: any intimidating stadiums. Of any stadium, you're going to be like, Okay, great,

782
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: it's just like practice, let's play, and they may have

783
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 3: better players, but it won't be the crowd that determines

784
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: the game.

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00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's a that's a great question and one

786
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: that's being asked to cross all betting circles before we

787
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: let you go. We really appreciate your time. It's been

788
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: great catching up with you, and hopefully, like we said,

789
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: we'll be able to catch up again later in the

790
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: summer into the fall to talk actual college football. That

791
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: is the goal. But I'll ask the elite. I'll end

792
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: with this, what is the percentage chance, just in your opinion,

793
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: that we don't have any college football at all this year?

794
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Nothing happens, doomsday scenario.

795
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: Back in April, I thought we wouldn't have a season.

796
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: I got more optimistic in the May and the June.

797
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Now I'm a little bit less optimistic. I will say

798
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: there's a seventy chance we don't have college football. This

799
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: is not a simple analogy, but this is not what

800
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: I think. This is what I think the people who

801
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: make the decisions think. The university presidents are not this takers. Okay,

802
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: So I just can't wrap my head around it that

803
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: the university presidents can say it's not safe to bring

804
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: back our entire student body to take on campus courses,

805
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: but it is safe to play college football. So we're

806
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: going to go ahead and play college football. Either both

807
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: should be safe or both should not be safe. And

808
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: I think because of that contradiction that ultimately they'd rather

809
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: be safe than sorry. And we talked about litigation earlier.

810
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: You know, that's one of the big fears for college presidents,

811
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: and if there's a huge job break on their campus

812
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: and you know, some really bad things happen, they potentially

813
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: open themselves up to a lot of things they're kind

814
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: of balancing off off of that and how much money

815
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: they're going to lose if they don't play. So I'd

816
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: say right now that probably seventy percent chance we don't

817
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: have a season, and I pray I'm wrong. That could

818
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: change in ten minutes after I hang up with you, guys.

819
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: But right now, that's where I'm at.

820
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Someone somewhere was pacing listening to this podcast and just

821
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: punched a hole after that delayed response of seventy percent,

822
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: punch a hole in their wall.

823
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Speaker 2: If you wanted one actionable bet out of this podcast,

824
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: there are books out there listening it minus one twenty

825
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: both ways that we do or don't. So if Brett

826
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: McMurphy's got it at seventy percent, no, you got yourself

827
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Speaker 2: an actionable bet coming.

828
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna try to be optimistic, and but this

829
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: is why we wanted you on. You're the one with

830
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: the most insight, So that's the number that we kind

831
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: of wanted to get and we appreciate all of your

832
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: insight and thanks again for joining us. We'll catch up

833
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: hopefully with you again later on in the season. Stay well,

834
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: stay safe, and well we'll talk soon.

835
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to come back on and you guys

836
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: can replay that and say, dude, you were flat out wrong,

837
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: and I'll say, Yep, you're right, I was wrong. I

838
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: would love for that to happen.

839
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Speaker 1: Yep, you and me both brother All right, Thanks again, Brett,

840
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: just anytime. So yeah, that's not the number that we

841
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: wanted to hear anyone want in the air. But look

842
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: it's he has as much intel into this as anybody.

843
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: And look at a D one assistant coach DMed me

844
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: this weekend and he quote tweeted, like my tweet that

845
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: said college basketball conference only season starting in early twenty

846
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: twenty one might might now be our best hope. And

847
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: he quote tweeted and said yup. And then I just

848
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: had like a crying emoji. And then he said, would

849
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: put college basketball non conference in full at about ten percent,

850
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: would put college basketball non conference as a random assortment

851
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: of games and others canceled at about thirty three percent,

852
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: would put college basketball conference play only at about sixty

853
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: five percent. That was his opinion last week. Now, college

854
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: basketball all depends on college football. This is the dominance, right, Like,

855
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: we're not if we don't have college football unless there's

856
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: like a vaccine. But I can't see college basketball. There's

857
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: a slippery slope here. So we'll keep you updated. Make

858
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Speaker 1: sure by the way quick plug rate, subscribe, unsubscribe, leave

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Speaker 1: a review, five star review. You're going to be in

860
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: the running for prize. On some of you that did

861
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: it last year we had to end the podcast called Best.

862
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the running as well. We're gonna

863
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: have some other cool promos coming as well on the podcast,

864
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: this podcast, the NFL podcast that I'll be doing with Raybaum.

865
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: We have our Fantasy Flex our Golf. We're gonna be

866
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: busy regardless this entire summer in fall. And then make

867
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: sure you go get the Action app. You have seen

868
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: tennis now on the Action App. I'm excited for tennis

869
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: to eventually come back in September. Colin thoughts on the

870
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: seventy percent number.

871
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: And listen, there's already a level of depression, like if

872
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: for me, I've never known a life without college football

873
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: on Saturdays. I was born in Arkansas, I grew up

874
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: in Arkansas. Everything revolved around Saturday, even not in the fall.

875
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: All we talked about was what was gonna happen in

876
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: the fall if I, you know, emotionally got to get

877
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: over the fact that there's no games. But if we

878
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: I think, my biggest fear, all right now, I'm passed

879
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: the losing games. I've accepted this is gonna happen. My

880
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: biggest my biggest fear of what we talked about to brand.

881
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 2: What we talked about to Bread is I don't want

882
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: to lose any of our teams in the FBS right now.

883
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: If we have to.

884
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: Lose U Mass or the Yukons, and you know, we

885
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: are the Eastern Michigans of the world, and I have

886
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: to start treating Army like they're a body bottom feeder,

887
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: that's just not gonna work for me. I don't want

888
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: to lose anybody in the family of FBS. Hu Mass

889
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: is part of our family, agree and I know, and

890
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: it's a it's like a child that we have to

891
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: monitor every day during the fall, and if we lose

892
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: one of our FBS members, it's gonna be it's gonna

893
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: be crushing.

894
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: So we're going to have, like we do every summer,

895
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: We're going to have, you know, a Big twelve preview,

896
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: an SEC preview and ACC preview, you know, a group

897
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: of five PAC twelve. Now, the timing of those is

898
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: still in flux, and it you know, we we want

899
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: to get a schedule first, and then I assume we're

900
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: going to get revised wind totals and you know, we'll

901
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: walk you through everything. Everything's still in flux. But and

902
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: we don't advise betting any wind totals right now. Right

903
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: there's just nothing. I don't think you can I don't,

904
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even look. But there are some national title shots,

905
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: you know that I think that we can talk about today.

906
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: We won't go too deep into into the conferences, but

907
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: we can end with this just some general thoughts on

908
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: the national title picture. I'll start with this. Seventeen of

909
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: the first twenty four college football playoff slots have gone

910
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: to four teams. That's it, Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, and Ohio State.

911
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: That's it. Seventeen of the twenty four. You know, then

912
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: you have some other one and donners. You obviously had

913
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: LSU last year, Pack twelve. I don't think is had

914
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: a team in five years, so obviously you start with

915
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: those teams. Now. I think Alabama is back and is angry.

916
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: Their defense should be a lot better. They had a

917
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of injuries last year. There are some questions that

918
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: quarterback of Mac Jones is more season. They also have

919
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: a freshman in there, Saban is the guy that you

920
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: want leading the ship in with all this turmoil. And

921
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: they actually have some coordinator consistency or they didn't turn

922
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: over coordinators like they have been doing for the last

923
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: four or five years. But I think Bama is the

924
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: class of the SEC. This year, LSUS coaching changes. They

925
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: lost a ton. Obviously, you got to replace Burrow. You know,

926
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Albert'll be in the discussion. George is interesting because that

927
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: defense is loaded, but it's a new offense, right, it's

928
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: a brand new offense. Maybe that's you can't get any

929
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: worse than their offense looked last year. You know, there's

930
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: a lot of questions on will they actually be allowed

931
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: to open it up. I don't know, but I think

932
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: it's safe to assume Alabama Clemson will get there. And

933
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: then the interesting questions to me is it Penn State

934
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: or Ohio State? And that game is huge for Penn State.

935
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: Now they don't think go to VA Tech at home,

936
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: but without fans, I don't know. They generally play Ohio

937
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: State very close. Ohio State's obviously loaded, but Penn State's

938
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: intriguing to me at a fifty to one price because

939
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: if they win, if they don't think go to VA Tech.

940
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Now they beat Ohio State at home, and look, their

941
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: defense is going to be loaded. You know, they there's

942
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: some still questions on offense, but they're intriguing to me.

943
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: And then Oklahoma. Look, I think the Big twelve is

944
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: going to accountablize itself. I think you agree, and the

945
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: committee has seen what the Big twelve has done the

946
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: last couple of years with some of these just blowouts. Right,

947
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: So even if there is an undefeated Big twelve versus

948
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: an undefeated PAC twelve, maybe Oregon that's the intriguing one

949
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: to me. We talked about it and it stuck with

950
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: colin episode Grab eighty to one. I talked about this

951
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: with John Murray a couple months ago from Westgate. I said, look,

952
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Oregon eighty the ones intriguing because if we go to

953
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: conference only and this is before, this is the thought,

954
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna drop North Dakota State with Trey Lancer's a

955
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: potential top ten pick at the quarterback, and Ohio stayed

956
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: at home and without fans at home. So all of

957
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, Oregon now is a very favorable conference. And

958
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: I think the clear class of that of the Pac twelve.

959
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: Morehead coming in as offense coordinator I think is gonna

960
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: be great. Obviously, the replace Herbert at defense is loaded

961
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: to an SEC defense. So I think Oregon around, I

962
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: think you can get fifty to one out there. Now,

963
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: that's where I'm going if I did believe that there

964
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: was an expanded playoff. Now Brett makes me more costs

965
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: about this. I love UCF, so if I thought that

966
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: there was a group of five, I would fire a

967
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: small bullet on UCF. Well, I think is the most

968
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: complete team in the eight AC since he has the

969
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: best D. Memphis probably has the best O. But is

970
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: this UCF team. They lost three games by total seven

971
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: points last year. They're loaded on offense, they have a

972
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: really talented secondary, and I think an underrated D. So

973
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I stand on the national title picture.

974
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: Futures wise, It's Penn State's intriguing Oregon for sure, and

975
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: I've invested in the Ducks a couple of times. I'm

976
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: go and have a funny story after. I'll get your

977
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, and you see, Yeah, if I believe

978
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: there's an expand of PLAYFF, but now I'm starting to

979
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: think there's not. So what are your kind of overall

980
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: thoughts in Land of the Land.

981
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was article I put out back in March

982
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: that said Oregon and Virginia Tech would be the biggest

983
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 2: benefactors of a non conference play slate. Oregon specifically has

984
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: eighty one percent of their returning starters on a defense

985
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: that was top twenty five and success rate last year.

986
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: That's pretty good, Like you said, stuck sec level. That's

987
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: all Andy Avelos coming over from Boise State a year ago.

988
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: He you know, it didn't take them long to learn

989
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: his scheme and to just put a vice grip on

990
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: everybody in that conference. Now the offense is a little

991
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: bit different there. They're obviously you know, their returning production

992
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: is thirty four percent. The loss of Justin Herbert and

993
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: plenty of other things from an offense, that's that line too.

994
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a whole line stud but the

995
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: four the other starters are gone.

996
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got to think that, you know, you know,

997
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Sewell might declare for the draft. He might not even

998
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: play on this Oregon team. The more it gets delayed,

999
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: So we don't know really what's going to go on

1000
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: with that offense or how more head fits in right there. Uh,

1001
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, and he's kind of going to be on

1002
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: his own redemption tour. But yeah, we're talking losing North

1003
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: Dakota State and Ohio State. But what's more important is

1004
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: if the conference schedule holds, this is one of the

1005
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: easiest Pac twelve road slates you could have, and now

1006
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: their season, they get to find their offensive identity to

1007
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: start off against Colorado. That's a lot better than a

1008
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: North Dakota State and a lot better than going up

1009
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: against Ohio State defense. So if there's an actionable one

1010
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: that you could lay off of this podcast, I'd say

1011
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: Oregon fifty to one or better. I would definitely shop around,

1012
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: and I would one hundred percent check the book rules

1013
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: on you know, is this still an actionable ticket if

1014
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: things change like this? It is changing things change like that.

1015
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, title futures should be action pretty much no matter

1016
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: what from the from the oddsmakers that I've talked to. Now,

1017
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: obviously that can change, but generally speaking, your national title futures,

1018
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: your championship futures are always going to be actions. A

1019
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: lot of the other stuff. I mean, I would say,

1020
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: to make playoff as long as the playoff doesn't expand

1021
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: would you know, to win conference of conference stands, they

1022
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: probably would stand. Any win totals will be thrown out.

1023
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: But obviously always check with your book and you obviously

1024
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: hopefully it's multiple books so yeah, I agree with you,

1025
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: and yeah Va Tech, it's votech There's something. Look, they

1026
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: came on strong at the end of last year. Obviously

1027
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: they lose Bud Foster's defensive coordinator, but they they really

1028
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: did as soon as soon as they hooked they went

1029
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: to Hooker quarterback. They really came on strong dater the year.

1030
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: But there's something going on with VA Tech, like they

1031
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: these transfers that keep happening. They had did they? I

1032
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: think that had the worst recruiting class in the ACC

1033
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: this year, which is crazy. I don't know what the

1034
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: issue is there, but I can't I can't argue with

1035
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: with logic as if you're looking for a deeper flyer.

1036
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of looking for a deeper flyer, so all this

1037
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: talk is coming off for conference only futures. Last week,

1038
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm texting you, I'm texting all these people in different states,

1039
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: and I'm saying, in legal states, I'm saying, what do

1040
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: you got? Tell me what you got on Oregon, just

1041
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: to seeing the best number that I can get to

1042
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: get more down. My friend in Indiana, he's like, I'm

1043
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: at work, I'll check in a second. He texts me

1044
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: back and he says, I got five hundred to one.

1045
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: I say five hundred to one. Are you sure? And

1046
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: he said yeah, five hundred to one. I say, hit it, dude,

1047
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: hit that for me. You can split it. I'll charge

1048
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: me on Apple Baby A text good BET's in ten

1049
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: minutes later. Well, then I text you. I said, dude,

1050
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: I found a fucking rogue five hundred to one on Oregon.

1051
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: And you were like, get the hell out of here

1052
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: or something, and I was like, yeah, dude, my friend.

1053
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: Within maybe five minutes, I end up text you back

1054
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: because my friend texts me back and says, why the

1055
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: hell are we betting on Oregon State to win the

1056
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: national title? And I said, you gotta be kidding me. No,

1057
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: I said, dude, no, Oregon. It didn't even cross my

1058
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: mind that he was looking at Oregon State, not Oregon's.

1059
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: It's my fault. I'm gonna pay for the entire thing.

1060
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: So I have a five hundred to one ticket on

1061
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: the Oregon State and that should be like fifty thousand

1062
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: to one.

1063
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: And my response to you was that's a bad number.

1064
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: Five hundred to one. You're not getting you're not getting

1065
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: true odds there.

1066
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: So I mean I was dancing around my house five

1067
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: hundred to one on Oregon.

1068
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now to talk about Virginia Tech, they are

1069
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: actually have really long shot odds there, one hundred and

1070
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: fifty to one odds at DraftKings for a team that

1071
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: has a relatively easy path to get to the AC Championship.

1072
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: Their home game against Miami, they have to go on

1073
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: the road to North Carolina. But you know, we talk

1074
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: about what's going on with their transfers, but this is

1075
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: still a defense that ranked eighteenth and success right last year.

1076
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: They return eighty nine percent of their production and the

1077
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator that's taken over for Bud Foster was the

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00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: secondary coach last year and he was actually a former

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: player at Virginia Tech, so there's not going to be

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00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: any kind of scheme change going on.

1081
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Speaker 1: Yes, he's a Foster guy.

1082
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean it's one hundred and fifty to one.

1083
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait out for coastal futures, but this is

1084
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: definitely a hedgeable ticket on Virginia Tech. Only just a

1085
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: couple of games that should actually matter and that and

1086
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: they are you know, they dodge Clemson on the slate.

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Speaker 2: And I think that takes me into my next subject,

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00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: which is the more we delay this season, the more

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Speaker 2: I don't like Clemson. And I mean we're talking losing

1090
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence Travis et In to the draft projected first round,

1091
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 2: both of them for seniors. Four juniors on the defense

1092
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: could skip. Amari Rodgers as a senior, he could skip

1093
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: and go to the NFL Draft. And this is that

1094
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: would make this easily the most depleted group of wide

1095
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: receivers in all of FBS. If a Mari Rodgers was

1096
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: to go missing, so and Justin Ross has already hearts hurt.

1097
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: So I mean, the more that this gets delayed, the

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Speaker 2: more I want nothing to do with having any money

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00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: on Clemson.

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00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if they if at a conference only

1101
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: schedule again, if they slip once, there's no chance in

1102
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: the ACC that they're going to the College Caball Playoff

1103
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: because they're gonna well, I mean I guess they could still.

1104
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Speaker 1: They might still have Notre Aime and it depends. I mean,

1105
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: it all depends. So yeah, we will, We'll leave it

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: at that. We're going to be back, you know, unless

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Speaker 1: they cancel the college football season once we have more

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: scheduling information, so probably the end of this month, you know,

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00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: we'll go through every conference. We'll go through all the teams.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through returning production, coaching changes, scheme changes, you know,

1111
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: who's most affected by the COVID impacted preparation, who's not.

1112
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: We'll go through our win totals, what we make them.

1113
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: We're obviously gonna have to run everything again with the

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00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: revised schedules, but yeah, we're gonna go through all that.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to talking college football. Hopefully we have

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Speaker 1: the season. Appreciate you all listening. Remember NFL first season

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Speaker 1: preview do in the AFC we were recording this week

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Speaker 1: as well. We have the Fantasy Golf just the podcast

1119
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: is going to be so busy and everyone on it crushes.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you have the Action app. Go check out

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00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: Fantasy Labs too if you haven't a lot of great

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00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: tools there. I'm even started to dabble in some some

1123
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: DFF and he's haven't had any success yet, but I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to kind of able out of boredom. But thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining me, Colin, Thanks again to Brett McMurphy, and

1126
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: let's hope that we have college football. I know we

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Speaker 1: probably won't have it on Labor Day, but a college

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Speaker 1: football season. Thanks again for listening, and we'll catch you

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Speaker 1: all later. Cheers. He's out.

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Speaker 3: We're finished talking.