1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental Wealth podcast 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Welcome in to Unbreakable, a mental Wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm Jay Glazer and joining me now. If you follow 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: my Instagram, you see that I go big and my 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: glazier palooz is at my house. I don't have just 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: anybody play music. I don't just use the shit out 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: of my friends for nothing. I gotta go and throw 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: these extravagant glazier ploos is. The star of news is 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: the man joining me now, my brother. And one of 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: the greatest things about doing this podcast is I met 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: this man the first time he was on my podcast, 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: and he truly has become one of the best friends 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: I've ever had in my life. You know, nothing but 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: a good time. Yes, probably Noma's the guy who've broken 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: up to a girl with over a song every rose. 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: How's this story? One and only? Brett Michaels. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 3: Oh right, brother, Jay, my brother, I'm doing awesome, man. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: It is great to see you. And we've had many jayapaloosas, 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: and a few of them that we actually remember, which 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: is good. 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: Yes, well barely vaguely. Let me tell you guys about it. 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: So you guys, I was in no Brett one of 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: the biggest recruiting artists in the world. But also Brett, 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: as time has gone on here has gotten more successful, 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: and I want to kind of dive into him what 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: he's done. And he always kind of reinvents himself and 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: builds up more and builds up Moore. The Brandon gets 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: burger so much so that he played at the main 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: concert at the Indy five hundred a couple of weeks 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: ago that was broadcast on Fox, and it's like, man, 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: there was hundreds of thousands of people there. He just 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: gets bigger. With Tom He's like, okamis wine. So I 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: want to kind of dive into that with him. But 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: before we get that, folks, let me tell you how 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: big Brett Michaels is. I take Brett to Steelers camp 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: because that's what friends do. 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: And I love you for it, Jay, I love you 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: for it. Thank you. 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: Here we are Pittsburgh Steelers camp, and Brett grew up 41 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Outside of Pittsburgh, he grew up going to 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Steelers camp outside the fence. Put his little kid. I'm like, 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: I got you. I'm gonna bring you in with Mike Tomlin, 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: not that whole thing, and we bring them the Steelers camping. 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: After we go to a bar in La Trope. So 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: it's me him, Mike Tomlin, head coach of the Steelers. 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: This is the head coach of the Steelers. People could 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: care less that Mike Tomlin was sitting at that bar 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: called Dino's. There was a line out the door for 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: Brett Michaels. I'm like, this is supposed to be an 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: NFL bar and NFL camp. They could care less. But 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: you know, Brett, you know what that is because the 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: authenticity of the guy that you are. I think it's 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: just brought you all this love throughout the years and 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: it continues to just build like that. 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: Well, Jay, first of all, thank you that day to 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: this second second here with you, one of the best 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: days of my life. You have to understand. First of all, 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 3: I want to go on the record, Jay, I love 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: you for the build up, but that is not true. 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: They loved you, they love Mike. They were crawling over 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: The problem was I was standing in front of you 63 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: and Mike, so they had to crawl over me to 64 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: get to you. Guys, right, they were just moving me 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: out of the way. I was just accepting the love 66 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: as it came by, right. But we went to camp 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: that day and dude, you we talked about this a lot. 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: I since my childhood, especially around six years old getting 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: diagnosed with being diabetic, sports has been such an important 70 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: part of my life. Saved my life and music. And 71 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: we used to go there with my dad, my sisters. 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: We would stand on the other side of the fence 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm talking about I've got pictures of me. 74 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: I've shown you. Joe Green in the background, Lambert Terry 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: Bradshaw came over and said hello. Terry was super cool. 76 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, to be there with you, 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: with Mike Tomlin throwing ball, talking to TJ, talking to 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: just it was just it was awesome. And then I stole, 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you. I borrowed a couple 80 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: of the practice balls. They managed to make it into 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: my RV which I'm traveling around in. Now, you know, 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: an ABD outdoorsman. So the uh, I just wanted to 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: say a couple. 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: Of talking about that. By the way, they start a 85 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: mini camp, but they can't practice because they got no balls. 86 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: You know, hey, it's said boom, what happened on? 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: Now we know the crime has been solved. 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: Tell the Rooney's I'm good for it. 89 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers shows up and he's like, dude, there's no 90 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: balls to throw the balls. 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. I took a couple. I'm not gonna 92 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: hide you. They managed to disappear, right, but the Rooneys know. 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm good for it. I'm coming clean out. I'm gonna 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: buck up on those all right dinos. I think it 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: was one of the bars in Latrobe and that was 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: one of the best. I'm telling you. I got some pictures. 97 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: We'll post them up again of the uh we'll just 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: say no letters. 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: Video of me and Mike t going what this dude, 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: No one even knows you're here, my team coach. They 101 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: could care less. He's like, all good, broke, all good. 102 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: You know him, I'll go it was awesome. And his 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: son Mason there, Mason comes out on stage with me 104 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: all the time. He's a great musician. 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: Opens up for Brett Michaels. Now it's sometimes on the road. 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: How cool is that? 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: It's amazing and that folks, I want you to hear 108 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: this that's the way. 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: One of the times I try and do his life. 110 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: I try and connect people, and I try and connect 111 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: good people with good people. And all I did was 112 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: I asked Brett to sit with Mason. Hey, he's a 113 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: rising recording artist. Can you sit with him. I've known 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: him since he was zero, and can you just help him, 115 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: you know, give him some advice along way. It's all 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: I was trying to do. And you sat with him, 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: and you went above me on and you saw something 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: in me like, not only am I going to after 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: you're sitting with him, not only do I have this viceroom, Mason, 120 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have you open up for me in Pittsburgh 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: and several other places. It was a win win for all. 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: It was great. And I told you, I think, knowing 123 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: this about you but about me as well, I don't 124 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: say something I'm not gonna do. So I told Mason, 125 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: I said, and he's like, are you serious? We're gonna 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: be start like at the Amphitheater on the Party Grawl tour. 127 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: And he he killed it. I mean he walked out there. 128 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: He was such a pro The crowd got fired up 129 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: and boom, we went into it and it was just 130 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: we do it every year. The party were at three 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: point zero now party grawl, Party grawl, three point zero. 132 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 133 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: So that's what I want to get into, correct because 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: a lot of guys, you know, they have their their 135 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: hits and they as they get older, certain guys kind 136 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: of can float away and oblivion. Certain guys trying to 137 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: reinvent themselves. You see different things. But you have almost 138 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: found this fountain of youth in this party, Gras. And 139 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: it's not just you, but the names you bring up 140 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: there with you when I talk about, hey, you know 141 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: the way you your loyalty is about a give give right. 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: What can you do for someone without expecting someone something back? 143 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: Right? 144 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: That's that's would be a loyalist. And it seems like 145 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: that has given back to you tenfold. But tell me, like, 146 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: what are I begin with this? So again, folks till 147 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: like Brett'll do these concerts now we calls the party 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: grop and give us an idea of who's out there 149 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: with you, but also kind of how you decided to 150 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: evolve into that from just you know, going solo by 151 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: yourself or when you're with poison to what it's become now. 152 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: And why so a couple of reasons. One. So, first 153 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: of all, let me start with my brothers in Poison, 154 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: Bobby cc Ricky, they're my friends, they're my brothers. I 155 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: am grateful. I wouldn't be here talking to you if 156 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: it wasn't for us together in a small town out 157 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: of Mechanics Purt Pennsylvania, getting together, selling everything we own, 158 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: getting in a van and driving to Los Angeles. Live 159 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: behind a dry cleaner. There's no lie. I think we've 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: talked about this many times. I'd live behind a dry 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: cleaner in downtown LA. And that loyalty amongst us has 162 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: been fantastic. Now we do it with Poison about every 163 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: four years. We did eighteen, then we did the stadium 164 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: tour in twenty two, and then we'll do it again 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: here in a few you're it'll be amazing. But the 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: solo careers, because if anyone watches any of my socials, 167 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: I'll go from Indie where we just broke poisons record 168 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: with the Brett Michaels band. So Poison set the record 169 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen sixty eight thousand, and we just did a 170 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: little over eighty five thousand, and I told them round 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: it up to eighty six. We rounded it down to 172 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: eighty five. I go, no, no, don't round me down, 173 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: round me up. You go, And I want to tell 174 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: you something. Working it's about having great relationships in the 175 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: business I'm in. It's about moving parts. It's about so 176 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: many moving parts every minute of every day, from doing 177 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: an interview to drawing out what you want to set 178 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: to be to knowing the band you want on it. 179 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: The first words out of my mouth is I need 180 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: to call the artists myself. I'm like, this is about 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: us having in order for the fans to have a 182 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: great time, the band's got to have a great time. 183 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: I can only work off sincerity because everyone comes out 184 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: with me is playing real live music, in other words, 185 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: where the instruments are live, the show's live. And so 186 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: it starts like that, and then I literally drew this. 187 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: I'll make you laugh when you see the drawling. I 188 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: drew it on a piece of paper, Neanderthal style, right 189 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: on my Hillbilly hard drive. That's why I call it paper. 190 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: And my pen drew out the stage where we were 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: going to go, what side the artist would come out on. 192 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 3: And then you find the right people around me, the ton. 193 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: People who've been who you've had to perform with you 194 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: in a basic party round. 195 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: So it's so basically, here's here's D Snyder born on 196 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: the same day as me, March fifteenth. So D Snyder 197 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: from Twisted Sister. So I go three songs into my set. 198 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: I say, I'd love to hear a Twisted Sister song. 199 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: I land pyro goes de Snyder comes out those three hits, 200 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: he lands. Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray born on the 201 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: same day he plays music. Chris Jansen, a huge country 202 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: star right now, comes out, starts doing buy Me a Boat. 203 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: Then Don Felder from the Eagles, Lou Graham from Foreigner Bans. 204 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: Want to hear kit after kid after kid, and that's 205 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: what we bring him, just an absolute party. 206 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: So what got you to say, Hey, this is you know, 207 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: sometimes the best ideas are so simple, it's brilliant, but 208 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: no one dots thought of it. But you what got 209 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: you to think of that idea? 210 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: So it was a simple I wanted to have a 211 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: show where instead of the bands, they do a set, 212 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: then they shut down for a half hour, then they 213 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: have another band, and at the end of the night 214 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: one of them may join you. Right, I said, what 215 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: if we do this. Every band that's going to open, 216 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: like Don Felder from the Eagles. I mean, you're talking 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: about the guy's written some of the biggest songs in history. 218 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: He's the nicest guy in the world. He does his 219 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: Eagles hits, then he comes and joins me on stage. 220 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, you have Night Ranger out there, right, 221 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: you got Chris Jansen out there, Jeffersons Starship, and then 222 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm mixing country, rock, hop, you name it. When I 223 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: did Boardwalk Rock a couple of weeks ago in Ocean City, Maryland, 224 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: it's all the bands fuel lit, every band that's been 225 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 3: friends of mine forever coming up on stage and just 226 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: killing it, and they join me and we either do 227 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 3: one of their songs they do one of mine. But that, 228 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: to me, Jay is what music's always been about. When 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: we're setting it at jay Apaloos on your patio, which 230 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: is amazingly awesome looking over an ocean, I won't mention 231 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 3: which ocean, right it is. You set the tone of 232 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: that party. And I told you that the first time 233 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: I ever met you. You set a tone. You welcome 234 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: people in that door. We feel welcome. We break out 235 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: the guitar, we listen to Sean McVay saying the most 236 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: horrible version of every Rose ever, but we love him. 237 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,479 Speaker 3: Then he had remember me and him wrestle. 238 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and Cliff King broke it up. Yes, yes, but 239 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: it was and Cliff, it just go back to what 240 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: spawned the idea. In the first play, you're saying how 241 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: great it is, but what gave you the idea? 242 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: So the idea was just it was simple, bringing out 243 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: friends of mine that I could join, they could join 244 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: me on stage, that we're willing hear me out to 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: let my solo band be the music. So my solo 246 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 3: band put in all the work. Pete Evick and my 247 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: band put in all the work to learn every song 248 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: from Foreigner, every song from the Eagles, every song from 249 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: Sugar Ray, whoever's joining me, right, they learn them. So 250 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: that the idea was to come out and seamlessly. You know, 251 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: most times you have to stop down. The audience is 252 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, they're waiting. You're in the middle 253 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: about to you know, rock the world, and all of 254 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: a sudden you got to stop down and change drummers, 255 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: drum kit. We didn't want to do that, and so 256 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: the idea was it was seamless, and that's what happened. 257 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 3: They came up. My band is one big band, and 258 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: they come out and three songs in, I'll finish say 259 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: nothing but a good time. I land on the ground. 260 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: Piro goes up. I throw the microphone and all of 261 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: a sudden d Snyder singing I want to rock right 262 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: and we're not going to take it. Then he singing 263 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: Highway to Hell, throws the microphone back to me, and 264 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: then I go up. And most of the time I 265 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 3: stay on stage and play guitar or congos, you know 266 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: what I mean? Who, by the way, Bill jumped out 267 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: on us? On you? Bill Richer's supposed to be up 268 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: there on that stage. 269 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: Is our producer at Foxonville Sunday. So topics to become 270 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: a big business for you. But what I didn't understand 271 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: until I talked to you more, there's so much more 272 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: business than just what you see. Hey, tickets people are 273 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: showing up. There's you have a hand in concessions and 274 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: shirts and merchandise and all that. How did you educate 275 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: yourself on what you should be getting, what should be 276 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: produced and then you can have a stake in that. 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: That's actually a very that's a great question. 278 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: So that's what I do. 279 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: You do great questions. So here's the real answer. The 280 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: first book I ever read, ever read about the entertainment 281 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: business called get It in Writing, So it told you 282 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: everyone loves your babe, you're the best come out. We're 283 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: going to take care of you. If you don't have 284 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: that in writing, good luck at the end of the show. 285 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: So we go in there and the first thing we 286 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: did from ground zero that was a blessing for Poison. 287 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: We kept all of our publishing except for what's called 288 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: an admin deal and administration deal, so on all of 289 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: our songs, the masters, the songs, the publishing we own. 290 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: So when those songs go anywhere they're played except for 291 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: a ten percent administration deal that Bobby and myself worked 292 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: on in getting with the band Ricky and CC. And 293 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: so that's an important part is own. These are all 294 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: like our children, every song, whether solo or Poison. Owning that, 295 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: then I own my own merchandise. So and everyone wanted 296 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: to give you an advance. Here's where they get you, Jay. 297 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: When you're starving and you're living in a warehouse, they 298 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: send you a limousine and a contract this big, and 299 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: you haven't eaten two weeks. It looks pretty exciting, and 300 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: it happens. It happens to so many great artists, and 301 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: we just held out and said, nope, I'm starving anyway. 302 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: And we just went through the deals and the deals, 303 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: and we finally just decided the keyword bet on ourself. 304 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: So there was no big glory day when our first 305 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: record came out. I was in El Segundo, California. There 306 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: was no massive party. I love to tell you there was. 307 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: You know, they sent a private jet, there was a limo. 308 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: I was setting in probably leather pants, thinking there might 309 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: be some kind of a party on the warehouse floor 310 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: in El Segundo. No lie shrink wrapping cassettes and albums 311 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: in a line with my band on a cold out table. 312 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: That's I'm not making that up. We were an independent 313 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: record and then we went in in our first video. 314 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: We put the money together for Cry Tough and Talk 315 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: Dirty to Me, and we went in there and Talk 316 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: Dirty to Me became a top ten single, and we 317 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: were the first independent band to sell over three million. Guy, 318 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: it was unheard of, like most independent bands sell ten thousand. 319 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: Back in the day when it was actual product. You 320 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But my work method for everything 321 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: everything is have fun, get it done, have passion, purpose 322 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: and take care of people. That's it. And make sure 323 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: again profit. Don't ever be embarrassed to make a profit 324 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: at what you do. You're kicking ass h. No, I'm 325 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: just saying I'm sorry, I'm spitting it out, but it's 326 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: not close to my heart. It's what happens to so 327 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: many bands. An example, if you think about looking at 328 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: an arena and you get an offer, what you got 329 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: to look at as the GP. So you're looking at 330 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: the gross potential of what that building holds a sell 331 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: out and I'm thinking, well, if they're booking me in 332 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: this size of a building, hedding on being a sellout. 333 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: So I take a guarantee versus the back end of 334 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: the deal so that everyone has skin in the game. 335 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: If you don't have people with skin in the game, 336 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: they don't need to do anything. There's no if ten 337 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: people show up, they made money because there's no skin 338 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: in the game. And so you want people to be 339 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: invested both yourself. You've got to make good partnerships with 340 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: the promoters. 341 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: But is there I guess the question I'm asking you 342 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: is like so if I was doing this, I know 343 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to get a gate, but I wouldn't know. Hey, 344 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: I could create an energy drink and sell it or 345 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: a water or how much do I get from shirts 346 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: who are like, hey, you're not going to produce the shirts. 347 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to produce the shirts. I guess how did 348 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: you educate yourself on all that other part of the business? 349 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: This sounds strange, very simple. I have a quick learning curve, 350 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 3: so I only got to get sucker punched and jaw 351 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: wat learn burn once and I'm learned. I call it. 352 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: I'm learned. I just I said, wait a minute, why 353 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: don't I just giving me a small advance against my 354 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: own shirts and image and likeness. I'm like, why don't 355 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: I just take to bet on my again? I know 356 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: it's a generic term, but it's really true, bet on yourself. 357 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: So I bet on me. There was no big advance, 358 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: but it paid three hundred times that owning. When you 359 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: own your content as much as you can, that's anyone 360 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: will tell you. Content is king. 361 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: Relationships are everything too, so everything right for everything. Who 362 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: was the best rocker for business advice when you were 363 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: coming up? 364 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: So, honest to God, are you ready for this. One 365 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 3: of the best. As I was breaking into the business, 366 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: one of the best piece of advice I ever got 367 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: was from my friend E Sneyer. He's like, look, I've 368 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: been through the highs the lows his album that come 369 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: out before ours, you know, and he just said, here's 370 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: some great things to do, and here here's some things 371 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: you don't want to do, and he had to live them. 372 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: I had to live them, and it was some of 373 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: the best advice ever. And I got to give credit 374 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: to the members of Poison as well as my solo band, 375 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, PD my guitar and my music directory is 376 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: our buddy, but smart business guy. But when we hit 377 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: that stage, we are hell on fire. Like we every 378 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: bit of my love, every bit of my anger, passion. 379 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: I've been a listen. I'm a pink human pin cushion. 380 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: I have over a million injections, five shots and days 381 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: since I've been six. And I take that pent up, 382 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: crazy anger, a little touch of you know, ADHD. I 383 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: take all that stuff and when I get that ability 384 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: to go on stage, the most important thing I could 385 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: tell you is I am forever grateful, forever I look out. 386 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm a fan of music, and I look out at 387 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: the indie, eighty five thousand people rocket in the heat, partying, 388 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: and there's not one moment out one second that I'm 389 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: not grateful for every person there. And I'm a fan. 390 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: So I brought all American rejects in their entire family 391 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: out on stage with me, where Bill skipped out. By 392 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: the way, I had a whole congo set up, and 393 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: all she had to do was put on that leather 394 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: thong we asked him to wear. 395 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: No no, no, no thanks. 396 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: He turned it down. I couldn't believe it. 397 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: So this is why I'm gonna tell you a story 398 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: of that a legend affected me. And that's why I 399 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: kind of went, I'm gonna tell you this story. And 400 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: see it's another and he's a legend, but you have 401 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: another like icon that man. This happened one day and 402 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: he said this. So the guy who got me to 403 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: be an NFL insider, see you throughout America is running 404 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: a lot. 405 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: That's who. By the way, I don't think you ever 406 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: told you the story. You haven't, so let me say this, 407 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: but one of the best to ever do it, one 408 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: of the most dedicated, but go pleeple. 409 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: One of the one of the most feared defenders of 410 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: all time ever, you know, Hall of Famer for the 411 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. I didn't work a run. I was 412 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: just fronts of them. And Ronnie came to me in 413 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: two thousand and two or three two and said, Jay, 414 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: you have what people want. They want information, so back 415 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: then they weren't and a FORLL insigners there was you know, 416 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 2: the Internet had just kind of come out a few 417 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: years earlier, and I was the first minute, five minute 418 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: breaking news down in this country with a guy named 419 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: Lynn Pascarelli and Chris Mortensen and John Clayton. But he says, 420 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: what you should do. Have your agent because I was 421 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: working at CBS, but I was behind the scenes and 422 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: they would come on the NFL today a CBS say, oh, 423 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: Jay Glazer has broken this and this it is our 424 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: inside of Jay Glazer is reporting this. Jumn answers say that. 425 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: But I would break stuff on the internet. He said, 426 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: have your agent call fifty of the top markets in America. 427 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: Offer up. You go to a studio every Tuesday or Wednesday, Monday, 428 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: whatever and offer up to be their NFL insider for 429 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: their team or that market. So Atlanta, Saint Louis Los Angeles, 430 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: Oh Clinton, New York, Philly hits for all of it 431 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: and charging five hundred bucks a clip. And back then 432 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: I was making nothing and it was Ronnie's idea, and 433 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: I believe we got twenty markets each week. Five hundred 434 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: dollars was a clip. The crazy part was they were 435 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: all Fox markets, every. 436 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: Fox station's that's all Fox Sports Net. 437 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: Doing best dance sports show period, even though I was 438 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: working for CBS. But CBS doesn't put me on the air, 439 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: so that Fox saw me. Ronnie Law. I owe my 440 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: career to Ronnie Law. So do you have a story 441 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: that's kind of like that where, oh my god, Rock 442 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: Icon had told you this. 443 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. So again, I want to say this because one 444 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: of the probably greatest people in my life, who has 445 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: since passed away, was of all the people, see, I 446 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: know you're looking for the eye because in musician world, 447 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: it's a it's a different thing than having someone sit 448 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: down there. There's not a lot of mentoring. I'm one 449 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: of the few people that once I work with every 450 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: young band, I want nothing from them. So but what 451 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: happened was is there was a manager's name was Howard Kaufman, right, 452 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: and he worked with irving as off and we went in. 453 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: We met different management to partner with us, and he 454 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: was the best. He was a diabetic like myself, and 455 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: he couldn't have been more straightforward, more honest, told me 456 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: what to watch out for, what to do, what not 457 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: to do. He would tell you, Brett out know what 458 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: you read. Because I'm excited. I'm a musician. I'm like, 459 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: I want to fucking play right, I'm like, I want 460 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: to go play music. And he said, just yes, that 461 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: will happen. Take a breath, because this contract you're about 462 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 3: to sign, you have to sell five hundred million records 463 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: to make thirty eight cents like this contry. Look at 464 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: these back pains. It was real. I was blessed like 465 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: you o' ronnie, you know what I mean? At the 466 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: farm print, yes, look at and he he watched out 467 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: and he never ever ever stepped in. He wasn't a 468 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: step in front of the mic. Guy, He wasn't I 469 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: need to be on stage. He said, this is what 470 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 3: you do. But he gave great advice to all the 471 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: members of Poison and myself and to this day, the 472 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: last I won't get emotional on you like I did 473 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: last time. But at his funeral was me and Steven 474 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: Tyler where the last to stand over his grave and 475 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: laid the dirt on it. You know what I mean, 476 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: the last to shovel. I know that sounds, but I 477 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 3: was waiting until everyone. I wasn't going till and Steven 478 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: said I'm not going either, and he would tell you 479 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: that story. We stood there and just sprinkled the last 480 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: bit of dirt on it. Because he'd helped Aerosmith with 481 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: some great stuff, too interesting. 482 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: He said, there's not a lot of mentor, but you 483 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: do give me your top piece of advice for aspiring. 484 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: Perform Number one, top piece of advice more than any 485 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: other thing, I repeat over and over when I say 486 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: bet on yourself. No one is going to believe in 487 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: Jay Glazer until Jay Glazer believes in Jay Glazer. No 488 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: one's going to believe in Brett Michaels until Brett Michaels 489 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: believes it. And then when you bet on yourself, you 490 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: can adjust and adapt to anything. Number Two, there's a 491 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: couple got to go with it. So if you don't 492 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: have the passion for what you're doing in the music business, 493 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: you're screwed. You know what I mean, You're just you're 494 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: you're ready on a bad path, right. Same with sports. 495 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: I mean sports is you know, sports has saved my life. 496 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: So and I can say this, the most important thing 497 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: in the end, so that you're never bitter, never bitter, 498 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: don't carry that with you is have fun, surround yourself 499 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: with great people and get it done. You got like 500 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: when we met, we instantly knew there was this awesome 501 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: friendship and connection that went beyond words. We were great friends. 502 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: We've been to highs and lows. And I think that 503 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: that's surrounding yourself with great people. It takes a village, 504 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: it takes a team. You know, you don't have someone 505 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: blocking for you on the line as a quarterback, You're 506 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: not going to last long in the NFL. 507 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: I think what separates you, man, is that look. In 508 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: order for you to be a star, you gotta be selfish. 509 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: And you were the most selfless dude. I know it 510 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: self lists you cared so much about folks. Let me 511 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: tell you what he did. So I throw those little 512 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 2: Blazer plus at my house. He calls it Jame Beliza. 513 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was awesome, It was big. 514 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: And Brett goes and gets the phone number every single 515 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: person was there, including the people who are cleaning up. 516 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: We are hard to like clean the place up their 517 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: cell phones and texting every one of them, thanking them 518 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: for showing up to my party, not even his for 519 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: listening to him a three songs. That's just not normal 520 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: in a day and age when hurt people hurt people, 521 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: and everybody's so damn hurt because of social media, and 522 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: people ask about our relationship. And this is why having 523 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: a guy like Brett, no matter where you are, no 524 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: matter how gray I am, no matter how dark I'm stuck, 525 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: you shine that blue light through to everybody, and you 526 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: didn't need a thing for me or anybody there. And 527 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: I've seen it over and over and over and over. 528 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: It was just that authenticity. So if I can give 529 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: advice to any aspiring performer out there, it's that authenticity 530 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: that Brett has. Gratitude, be grateful to people. And I know, look, 531 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: it's easy for me to say because I've been a 532 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: dick and I've been in an asshole and I just, 533 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: you know, get caught up. And I told my wife Rosie, 534 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: I want to learn from Brett. I want to be 535 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: more like Brett. 536 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: You're gonna make you're trying to make me cry. Aren't 537 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: you you're doing You're about to do it. 538 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: I got misty for it, Derem mc bryan. 539 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: That goes I'm gonna say this now, Jay, thank you, 540 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: and that every bit of that goes back to you. 541 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: We were a brother now but we and I tell you, 542 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: I say this to everybody, say to my kids, to 543 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: my daughters. I said, please be whatever it takes, find 544 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: a way to be grateful. And I'm talking you and 545 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: me have taken some hits. We've been thrown some some 546 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: sucker punches. I've been sucker punched, a stabbed in the back, 547 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: and it takes a lot to stay not bitter. I 548 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: state my piece. I know the people in my life 549 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 3: that I need to let go, and I know the 550 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: people I want to stay. But coming to your party, 551 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: you threw the best damn party. I was grateful to 552 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: be there. I got to I whipped out that guitar 553 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: on that crazy driveway, climbed the hill, brought that guitar in, 554 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: and we listened to some of the best at a 555 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: key singing in history. And it was the only person 556 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: that sang more out of key at a lacrosse game 557 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: in San Diego was Drew Brees right, Yes, I got 558 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna send that to you. It's he's the best, 559 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: and he really is passionate about it, and he's knocking 560 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: it out little every rowse as it's thorn, and it 561 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: was I'm like, man, that that took it to a 562 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: whole new level of awesome. 563 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: Man. Look, I know you're on the road here. I'm 564 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: gonna let you go here. But before I let you go, 565 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: I do have to tell people he's a rock star, 566 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: the most rock story thing I've ever heard from you ever. 567 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: Uh oh, tell them what your daughter's job was, Rain, 568 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: when she was like eight nine years old at your conference. 569 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: Uh oh, you mean grabbing the brawls from the stage. 570 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: You can't make Rains like that. You don't think this 571 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: hasn't messed me up for now that the therapy build 572 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: for that, which I thought was hilarious after a few drinks, 573 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm like Rain, listen, collect all the brawls off the stage. 574 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 3: I'm not a bad dad. Jay. You got to tell him, 575 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm a My daughter now when I come to your parties, 576 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: has to draw I'm me home. 577 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: Yes, she does lie right, that's my fault, that's my fault. Right, 578 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: you're bad, my bad. 579 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: But Raid's job. But she's eight or nine years she 580 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: was telling me, she goes. My job is to go 581 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: pick up my bras and undies on the stage. One 582 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: Dad will perform like I did not make her. I 583 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: need to go in record second, here go on records. 584 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: They what I'm going on record to say I did 585 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: not make her or tell her to do that? She 586 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: hold on here, I got a low power. That's my 587 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: life story right there, mid old, my finest speech, and 588 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: my batteries about to die. But and by the way, 589 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: this shirt I am tubing in the yellow Breeches Creek Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. 590 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: That's why these things. I'm literally floating. 591 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: What does that have to do with the bras and 592 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: the undies? Get back, get back? 593 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: You know I have a d Yeah, yeah, all right, 594 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm back, squirrel. No, I'm back the uh so anyway, yes, 595 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: Raine jobs, She's like Dad. As she got older, I 596 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: collected brawls and panties and crazy people jumping up on 597 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: the stage and then your crew would move them over 598 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: to the side. I never threw anyone out. So crazy 599 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: people get up party and then they're like party. She goes, Dad, 600 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: they're partying with me, trying to get me. I go, 601 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: I didn't make you do any of that. I want 602 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: to go on record. I did not make her collect 603 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: the brawl. 604 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: Rain is as straight and arrow as you get. So 605 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: it worked. You scanned her straight, is what happened. 606 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: That's exactly why I meant to do it. I'm a 607 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: good dad. 608 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: I snore father the decade. 609 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: Here here, Brett, I know you performed. 610 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: Brother. I appreciate you joining me, dude. I love you 611 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: with all my partner. I appreciate you giving us an 612 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: inside look on what it's like of the business of 613 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: music and being a rock star. 614 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jay, I love you. It's right here. I'm just 615 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: telling you and uh and please just I'll see you 616 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: back soon, very soon. I'll bring rain in them to 617 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: drive us back, and we're about to slow down. 618 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: I love Brett Michaels, I love you only. I love 619 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: a brother, Love everybody,