1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: So of course all lined up along the shore looking 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: for good skipping stones. It was me, it was he Man, 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: it was Dennis Kusinych, it was Vera Wang. And we 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: are gonna see who can do the most skips. And 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: there's sort of an overturned boat out maybe sixty yards out, 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: and we're saying that who can hit the boat, but 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: has to skip at least four times before it touches 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the boat. 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: You can't just. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: Throw it at the boat. That's cheating, Dennis Cusinch, you 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: threw it. You can't do one huge skip that goes 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: all the way, you know, skips right in the middle. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: Veroang mm hmm. 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: It has to skip four times at least could skip 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: seven or eight and then make contact with the overturned boat. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: He Man. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: So as we're doing this, I'm trying a new technique 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: where I'm almost like backhand flinging it and I'm getting 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: this like sick ass spin and it's going like around 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: like in circles almost, and it's fucking like pretty ill. 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: But I'm not getting the distance I want and we're 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: and we're hearing this noise that's very annoying. 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, how. 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 4: My boat, I'm drowned and like you're trying to save 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: them in this way that's like hey, like we're here, 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: we are here, we're here. 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: You see its possible to be on shore. 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: Yes, we're showing you what to do. 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: And also they're sort of getting pissed. 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Away from the boat. There's actually an outside here where 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: there's rocks. Do you hear that? That's rocks? 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: It's really lead by example, you know, because you know 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: we're sort of saying like, hey, like this is what 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: you kind of want to be doing, Like why don't 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: you close. 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: Your mouth, open your ears and listen for a second. 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Then all section of rocks the rock direction, which he's 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: pissed that we're throwing the rocks towards him, but we're 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: not throwing them at him. 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: We're throwing them at the boat. 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: And also, if you just shut up and let us 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: do it, ultimately he man might throw a big enough 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: rock or enough rocks that it actually makes you can 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: stand on it. 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: So enough rocks are hitting the boat and falling to 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: the floor, and eventually you're standing on essentially an island. 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: That well, that's the hope. 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: If only this guy would shut up and stop like 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: criticizing everything because then he's also. 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: Like that technique's not gonna work. You can't get them. 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: You don't have the leverage, like you're not using your body. 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: It's all arm And I'm going like, hey, pal, I'm 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: not the one who's drowning in the water, thank you 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: very much. So anyway, I don't totally remember how it 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: all shook out. I was on a bunch of ludes 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: man memorable for all street. 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to Hollywood Handbook, An Insider's Guide to kicking 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: button dropping me the Carpet Show. Welcome back, Jamie Loftus. 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: We're seeing you, we see you, we love you, we 60 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: admire you. We're doing the show. 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Jamie honor us by coming and being a part. 62 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: Of the show. 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 5: I'm well, I I did make a concerted choice. I 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: wanted to be. I like that I'm vertical and you're 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: all horizontal. I think that that is a choice that 66 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 5: I made. 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: That really lengthens You do it on the phone. 68 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 5: I do it on the phone. I do it on 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: the phone, and I do it on the phone. 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: And I've been vertical on myself when I zooming on 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: the phone, no kidding. And the camera is nice. It's 72 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: all very cool. 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: I feel like I have more control Jamie's you have 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: a dog and a cat, I do. 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Flea and Sonny. 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Have they kissed before? 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: They the cat kisses the dog. The dog is a 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: little distant. 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: So what do they do it like? 80 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 5: They do it like? Okay, So when the dog is 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 5: very still, the cat comes up behind the dog, puts 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: a paw on the back flank of the dog, as 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: if to say, hey, just checking. 84 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: In, Hey, just letting you out. I'm about to kiss you. 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: He checks in, Hey, if you could just just I'm 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm here, I am about to kiss you. I don't 87 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: want to. 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 5: The thing is, the dog has a lot, is very furry, 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: and the cat is very small, so he doesn't usually 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: feel the tap tap for the checking and then he 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: just goes straight in for the mouth. Looking the back flank. 92 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 5: Dog gets mad. Dog puts, you know, a little bit 93 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: of a cat in his mouth. He spits it out 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: as a warning, but. 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: Just puts a little piece of the cat in his. 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 5: Mouth, just a little just a little scruff just a 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 5: little scruffy. 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: This part of you now is in my mouth. Think 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: about that cat. 100 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: Remember that next time. 101 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: Hey, So I actually did try to warn you and 102 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: and I actually did indicate that a kiss was coming. 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: So this reaction, I'm kind. 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 5: Of like extremely unwarranted and a bit dramatic. Yeah. Yeah, 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: he puts his paw on the on the back flank, 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 5: which is customary. I'm pretty sure in exchange like this, 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: check in on the back flank. If you don't get 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 5: a reaction, uh, you know, it's it's a go ahead. 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 5: It's a little different for them than it is what 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 5: it is. 111 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: If you're behind someone, it's a light, it's a a 112 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: couple fingers on the hamstring. Yeah, and that's saying kiss coming, 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: And then that's your opportunity right to say, hey, I'm busy. 114 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: That's the equivalent of the package the package tracker, where 115 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: like you get the email saying like hey, your package 116 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: is in Arizona now or whatever. 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: And you're like, oh no, no, no, no, stop stop. 118 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: It in the back. Yes, I'm busy right now. 119 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: I don't want Yeah, it's kind of the it's that 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: step in the pizza tracker of like, well, he's on 121 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 5: the way, so it's kind of too late. It would 122 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 5: be really it would be more work to tell him 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 5: to turn around, So maybe you should just take the pizza. 124 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't. 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think that that the dog 126 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 5: is is not being receptive, but he's got issues of 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 5: his own that he's damaged. 128 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: Sonny is damaged. 129 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: He's damaged goods, he's you know, he's been getting. 130 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: He's honestly damaged bads. 131 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: He's Sonny's fucked up. 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 5: That's he's fucked up. 133 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: I mean him and I can relate. He ron should 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: do some work on himself. 135 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: He says, some thing is like you know, some people 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: can turn themselves around, and then others are just like 137 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: you know, at the core, not very not very good. 138 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: He sucks, he's fucked, and he's shown no initiative and 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: no uh desire to really truly dig in and recognize 140 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: his own flaws. 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: He puts it on the cat right like. 142 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 5: Doubles down on it, doubles down on a single time. 143 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: To me, that's not cool. That's not an opportunity for growth. 144 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: And it's ugly. It's ugly. 145 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 3: He fuck, he's amazing, He's amazing. I love Sonny. Sonny's incredible. 146 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: He's my best friend. 147 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: I well, it's kind of complicated because it's like I 148 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: I love Sonny, but the fan base is extremely toxic, 149 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: and I think that things can kind of be true there, Yes, 150 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: And what is it about Sonny that collects a fan 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: base like that? 153 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: Why gravitate to Sonny? 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: It's not just coincident, That's exactly right. I mean. And 155 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: I've read essays on the topic, and I think there's 156 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 5: been good points made, and there's been, you know, maybe 157 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: some overally harsh points made, But there is something in 158 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 5: what he's doing that's appealing to the wrong kind of 159 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: person for me. 160 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: And he does whether it's intentional or not. It's if 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: you don't recognize that and then disavow it actively. Because 162 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: now by liking Sonny, which I love Sonny, he's my 163 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: best friend, I could change plays with anyone in the 164 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: world be Sonny right now. That's said, if I do 165 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: like him, I'm aligning myself with some of the worst 166 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: people's society has to offer. 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: In Therefore, Sonny must be canceled, and Sonny is debt 168 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: to me. 169 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: You have to. Yeah, It's like when you appear in 170 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 5: a picture with Sonny and you post it to Maine. 171 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: You know, in stories maybe that's a little bit. 172 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: But if you post you. 173 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 5: And Sonny to Maine. That's an endorsement. 174 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: The main feed picks don't come down. 175 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 5: It's yeah, I had to a while ago. I mean, 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 5: I had the foresight, and I'm grateful I did. I 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: scrubbed everything. I took him off Maine. He is not 178 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: You can't find him on my grid. So if you are, 179 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 5: you know, coming to me two days saying, hey, who's 180 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: this girl whatchy about? You don't see any toxic, any 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 5: toxicity on the main It's gone. It was there. 182 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: They have programs that you can download that will just 183 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: eliminate Sonny from your your your online presence entirely. And 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: I am rooting for Sonny. I truly truly want Sonny 185 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: to succeed. But Sonny needs to be needs to be 186 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: dropped out the window. 187 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: He does this, he does it. 188 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Sonny must be eliminated with extreme prejudice. And I'm one 189 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: of the people who thinks we have to provide Sonny 190 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: with a path back to society or else. What will 191 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: become of Sonny and his ILK. 192 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 5: I mean that's again, that's that's a take that can 193 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: come back to bite you. But I think it actually 194 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 5: should be vaporized. A lot of he should be turned 195 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 5: into dust. The problem is, you know, there's always a 196 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 5: risk when you do something like that that he might 197 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: just split and then there'll be two, you know, And 198 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: that's always been my concern, is that there'll just be 199 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 5: two of them, and I couldn't I don't know what 200 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 5: I would do. 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: There's one good Sonny and one bad Sonny now which 202 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: like oh no, or like now there are two very 203 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: complicated Sonnies. 204 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: That's too much for me, Jamie. Cheeseburger choice, go what 205 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: cheeseburger choice? 206 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: Cheeseburger choice, cheese now, Okay, okay. 207 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: Okay, choice in the fucking round. 208 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: I just want I just want one one cheeseburger. Is 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 5: your just want one? 210 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: Just one that's cheeseburger choice, grilled or in the oven? 211 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: Oh oh, baked cheeseburger, just one baked, baked but on low. 212 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: Lately baked cheeseburger, lately baked Jamie's choice. So this is 213 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: so this is a great segue because of course, every 214 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: episode on our show we do kind of populist, uh 215 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: like content like cheeseburger choice, something that like everyone can 216 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: sort of relate to, and it's super accessible. 217 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: I love that. 218 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: I love that, And yet you have sort of chosen 219 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: a different path, which is that you are providing content 220 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: for a very small like sliver of the cultural intellectual 221 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: elite in order to get on, uh to just kind 222 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: of like have an instant passed to like get on 223 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: Vulture and Paste and like these other very smart. 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: It's a r comedy. 225 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: It's for super consumers, it's for it's the thirty rock audience, right. 226 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean there's only a couple of them, but they 227 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: have they all have like unlimited like black cards or 228 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: whatever they have. 229 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: The thing is, there's only four or five of them, 230 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 5: but they have so much money it's unbelievable. 231 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: And they're giving it to Jamie, aren't they. 232 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: They're giving a lot of it to me. 233 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: They gave it to Jamie. 234 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: The money's showing at your house, which congrats, and that's 235 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: so cool. And we actually would not mind having some 236 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: of these smart rich people like us as well. 237 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: You know. 238 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Everything we've done so far has been so easy. 239 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, and. 240 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: Just kind of fun and light and it's not really 241 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: challenging anyone, and it's not asking anything. 242 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: Of the audience. 243 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: Has it changed, you know, nothing? I mean I guess 244 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: as a. 245 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 5: Narrative has a narrative been changed. 246 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, it delights. I mean it is, you know, a 247 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: welcome narrative. 248 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: It's a welcome save a bomb on the ills of today, 249 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: just to sort of unplug and just listen to something 250 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: that's just fun and just nice guys talking, be nice. 251 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, we haven't changed the narrative. And I have 252 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: been looking at your work and I've been thinking about 253 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: your work, and I've been trying to figure it out. 254 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: And what I'm realizing is, like, this is some smart stuff. 255 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: You did mensa show. 256 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 5: I did Mensa show. 257 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: My definitely the smartest show. 258 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the conclusion I reached by the end. 259 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: Anyone anyone did this? 260 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: You do bechdell cast I mean, am I even saying that? Right? 261 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: But it's like this whole like analysis theory, I mean, 262 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: talk about this stuff. 263 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys want to you guys want to talk 264 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: about feminism in movies? 265 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: Hey, is what do you think is that good for us? 266 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: Well? 267 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 5: I think this is a good topic for you guys. 268 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: Have you seen U five seventy one? 269 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: No? I haven't. Is that is that one good for 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: good for women? 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: That's really interesting just because what I find really interesting 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: about it from like a like sort of looking through 273 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: it from this feminist lens. Is the submarine is a girl? Oh? 274 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: They they they call her she She heard pronouns on 275 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: the submarine They don't. 276 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if they say it. I don't know 277 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: if they ever say it. But you're just you see 278 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: it on screen, You're like, Okay, that's a girl. 279 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: That's okay. 280 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: Have you seen K nineteen The Widow Maker? 281 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: I haven't seen I know, I haven't seen that one. 282 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh really? 283 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh wow? 284 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: That's that surprises me. 285 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: K nineteen The Widow Maker is interesting, and even just 286 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: in the title, they are focused on the woman's experience 287 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: because she will be made a widow by the actions 288 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: of this submarine, which is also a girl. Wow. 289 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: Okay, So it's kind of about their relationship and how 290 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 5: they connect and help each other grow. Is there is 291 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: there like some some growth going on there. 292 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: This? 293 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: Uh? 294 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean the periscope grows higher when they're trying to 295 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: find something like uh, So there's definitely some growth happening 296 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: there in terms of like at least a lengthening. 297 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: And speaking which have you seen down periscope? 298 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 5: No? I will say I've heard of it, but I 299 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 5: haven't actually seen it. 300 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: And now so this is and I did not think 301 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: that we were going to be doing this. I just 302 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: sort of thought we would be talking about these movies 303 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: and you'd be like, oh, I've seen that. Here's my 304 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: kind of smart perspective on this. That was the Yeah, 305 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: not seeing you five Saev any one you have not 306 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: seen kN I T The Widow Maker. You have not 307 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: seen Down. So what's interesting about all these movies is 308 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: they are all about submarines that are girls. 309 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: Right, Well, I mean it's honestly, I a concern that 310 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: I have is that I come off as a fraud 311 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: in these situations because You're naming all these feminist movies 312 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: and I've never heard of them, and I don't know 313 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 5: what they are. 314 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really my I'm really concerned about that too. 315 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: Well, I you know, I could feel that I could 316 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 5: feel that coming from and I guess I guess I 317 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 5: just want to assure you that you know, it's a process, 318 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 5: It's it's imperfect. Yeah, I know, I haven't seen down 319 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 5: Periscope yet. 320 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: Do you think corrected K nineteen The Widow Maker? 321 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: Can I be honest? The name that came to my head? 322 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: What year? 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: Wait? 324 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: Wait, what year did it come out. 325 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve, two, two thousand and two, two or twenty twelve. 326 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that. 327 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 5: What was the budget of the movie? Yeah, what was 328 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 5: the budget? I'm just trying to I'm trying to narrow it. 329 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: Down marketing and the ninety was my guess budget. 330 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: Budget's ninety mil. 331 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: But obviously obviously marketing just about doubles it for a 332 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: big studio film like that. 333 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Okay, and then it 334 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 5: it did did do well? Or is it kind of 335 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: like a cult more of a cult movie. 336 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: Uh, it's not for cults, it's for everybody. 337 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: It's okay, did it. 338 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Did well in my living room? But are you asking 339 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: if it recouped thel? 340 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 5: No, it didn't. It didn't get it back at that. Well, 341 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: that's not necessarily a bad thing, right, Okay, I'm gonna go. 342 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna say, was it Angley? Was it 343 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 5: was that one of his? 344 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, and actually, and now it's time to 345 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: tell you what the real answer is. 346 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: What's the answer. 347 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: It's Caine Bigelow. 348 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's that's. 349 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: Wanted so bad. 350 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: I'm really sorry. Wow, I wish I I and you know, 351 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: I think that that's I. I have some I have 352 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: some things that I need to work through with Catherine 353 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: Bigelow and my internalized misogyny because I got I gotta 354 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 5: be honest, you know, in the Big Year, I was 355 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: rooting for Jim for the Oscar. I was rooting for 356 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: Jim and he didn't get it. And I held on 357 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 5: to that and I stopped engaging with her work. And 358 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 5: I think that I have suffered as a result because 359 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 5: I haven't seen Detrit. I haven't seen Detroit. 360 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. But listen, I'm right there with you. If 361 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: we had been able to see Jim up there, not 362 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: for like Best Picture, but like for Best Director, Oh my, 363 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't it have been holding grip in the big fella face. Yes, 364 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: she announced that he potentially remains the king of the 365 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: world and has been this entire time. M hmm. 366 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: I would. I would have been so happy that night. 367 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 5: But then, but you know it, and and you know, 368 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: good for her. We're happy for her. I liked you, 369 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: I like I liked point, I like to point break 370 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 5: and I like and you know what I like about 371 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: her is that she's kind of a guy's gal. And 372 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: uh sure, and I don't I guess that's true. 373 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: She can mix it up with the fellas, big stogy 374 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: a snifter. 375 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I heard that on the set of K nineteen The 376 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: Widow Maker. She was frequently busting chops. 377 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 5: Oh my god. And I bet I bet she would, 378 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: you know, if not do pranks herself, she would engage 379 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: with them. She wouldn't scold you for doing a prank. 380 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, it could definitely happen around her. No, I mean, 381 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: she'd be very normal about it. 382 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: But I do. I do think about a lot. What 383 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 5: if what if Jim had won instead of Kathy and 384 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 5: come on stage and kind of rubbed into her face 385 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, and and wouldn't wouldn't that 386 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: have been a nice He snags. 387 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 3: The big fella around it's golden mid section, clutches. 388 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 5: It, yes, clutches it, you know, and you see his 389 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 5: long fingernails because you can't when you're when you're shooting 390 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 5: an Avatar movie, you can't. You can't clip your fingernails. 391 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 5: It's bad. 392 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: I have a lot of time ago clipping all over 393 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: here and there and just and also affects the sound 394 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: on the movie. If the boom picks up that clipping sound, 395 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: you're fucked. You're in the edit room forever trying to 396 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: be like, well, do we have a bell ring? 397 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: Or he's got these long asmr kind of nails that 398 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 5: he would just clutch the thing with and and and 399 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 5: say hey Kathy, And then it cuts to her and 400 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 5: she is so and she is so mad. 401 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: And speaking of submarines, he's down there and one of 402 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: the one of the screws is coming loose. Say, for example, 403 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: he can use his fingernail, just put it right in 404 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: there and twist it back around and tighten it again. 405 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: No, it's essentially he has a multitool on it at 406 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: all times, and it's his physical hand which he has 407 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: adapted to be more useful. 408 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 5: I mean, no one could make the argument that James 409 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 5: Cameron uh doesn't like or respect women because he's in 410 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 5: a submarine all the time. 411 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, wish and the girlfriend, the girlfriend from Pandora was 412 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: a woman, so okay. 413 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: Think about that. And also I gotta changed him. 414 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 415 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: We have these insane beauty standards for men where you 416 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: have to have these short, tight nails all the time, 417 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: and we just like expect men to like have all 418 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: this grooming time. And I'm sorry, I don't know when 419 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do that. And it's also it's not 420 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: comfortable and it's not practical because how am I going 421 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: to screw in the submarine? 422 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: When am I going to do it? I don't like 423 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: the noise, Like, come on, Jamie. 424 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 5: Sometimes you need some to I think that that's, you know, 425 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: more important than the discussion of women film is the 426 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 5: discussion of men's nails. And I think that is a 427 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 5: side of masculinity we don't see explored very often. And 428 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 5: sure there's been some cartoon network shows that have you know, 429 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: brushed on it right and said, oh okay, maybe you know. 430 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: Totally subversive like under the Radar. It's almost absurdist right 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: in the way that they tackle it, because we don't 432 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: talk about. 433 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 2: This shit no. 434 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 5: And then and then you know, they finally get the 435 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 5: recognition they deserve and then wait, the show is over, 436 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: you know. But I do think that. 437 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: It's only like eight minutes. 438 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 5: They're only is by the time you get to anything good, 439 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 5: you're like, oh, it's it's over, and I have to wait. Yeah, 440 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: I like, I mean personally and I and I think 441 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 5: a lot of women would agree. 442 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 443 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: I like a man with very long nails and when 444 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 5: you see and you know it when you see it. 445 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 5: I've always said this with with with men who have 446 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: you know, kind of longer nails. You know what, when 447 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 5: you see it, and when it feels right, it feels right. 448 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: Imagine Jim up there having secured the bag which stands 449 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: for big ass gold Man. It is warm grip, just 450 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: pumping it up and down up there. 451 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 5: Put it down its week. 452 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: Shouldn't have had that so big ass gold Man is 453 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: all wet. 454 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: His the gold Man's wet, but his hands are like 455 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: sandpaper and they're just grinding. Look gold filings flying off 456 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: onto the podium as he speaks and sort of winds 457 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: his hand around it. 458 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: He's whittling. He's whittling the man. 459 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: That's just the climate of New Zealand that'll do that 460 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 5: to your hands. I hate to get off topic because 461 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: but but I he should have won, and I think 462 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 5: that that the world would be a little. 463 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: Different if yeh, he'd be king again. 464 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: It's these little point yeah, where that we see where 465 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: we go. Oh wait, if I actually work backwards like 466 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: this is where it went and it was with Avatar. 467 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 5: I'm working on an essay for Refinery twenty nine that 468 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: kind of explores that congratulates. Oh my god, well, don't 469 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 5: go j I mean talk about you. 470 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: Didn't care way to bury the lead. 471 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: No, it's an essay for Yes for Refinery twenty nine, Jamie. 472 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: Refinery twenty nine. Yes, I know, I know. I was 473 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: really excited. I was pitching and pitching and pitching and pitching. 474 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: You know. 475 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: I sent it out to ever. I reached out to 476 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: my contacts and said, hey, I really have something to 477 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: say here, and I can't publish it myself, you know, 478 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: because I know one will take it seriously. 479 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, what's the workout? 480 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 481 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 5: Well, okay, so it was but they said originally you know, 482 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 5: fifteen hundred, that'll do, you know, and then I but 483 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: then and I said, you know, we can give you 484 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 5: fifty dollars six months from now. 485 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's interesting. I my experience with them 486 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: is that they pay actually one tortilla chet per word, 487 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: and so really yeah, I don't know if that that changed, 488 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: like the scale moved or whatever. 489 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: That's I only get three quarters of a tortilla chip. 490 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 5: So thanks for bringing that out. 491 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Oh oh so it's okay, So it's the money, but 492 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: also three you just didn't. Yeah, you didn't mention that. 493 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: You just dunk, you know. I mean, it's it could 494 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: it could be a lot of things. It could just 495 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 5: be the price of content is sinking rapidly, which is 496 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 5: something I worry about. But but I so but you know, 497 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: I engaged in a negotiation with with the editor. She 498 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 5: she was twenty two years old, and so I said, 499 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: you know, hey, I've got a little more experience than 500 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: you do. I think, and and and I think maybe 501 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: I should be able to do two thousand words and graphics, 502 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 5: you know, because I think that for this piece in particular, 503 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: you don't need a lot of charts to really understand 504 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 5: what the impact would have been in terms of box office, 505 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 5: in terms of stars, and in terms of the distribution 506 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: of of of awards. And so I was able to secure, 507 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 5: you know, a contract with her. We've been back and 508 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 5: forth and right now it's running. It's running around thirty 509 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 5: five hundred words right now, and I've only hit twenty 510 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 5: twelve in terms of impacts. So I'm actually I might 511 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 5: end up taking the answer there and turning it into 512 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 5: a book proposal and then sending that to HarperCollins. 513 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: You say, like that the person working. There was twenty two, 514 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: Like it's a surprise, but it's called Refinery twenty nine 515 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: because when you turn twenty nine, you are sent to 516 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: a refinery. 517 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and then they take out yeah, they take 518 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 5: out all your blood. 519 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: They make you real dry, yeah, and you're yeah, your 520 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: bones are refined into into gelatine. 521 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: Right, and then they use that gelatine and they you know, 522 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: put it in a mold for a while, and then 523 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: they get a new twenty two year old, you know, 524 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 5: after a few months of incubation, and that model has 525 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: worked very well for them. 526 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: It's not a perfect system, but it's a damn good, 527 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: good one, and if you think you could do better, 528 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. 529 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's out contenting them. I haven't read 530 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: a sharper critique of Joss Whedon's work twenty years later. 531 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 5: I'll say that right now. 532 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten my news anywhere else other than other 533 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: than Jordan Klepper when he was on. But that is 534 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: a different. 535 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 5: Media, Miss Clepper. I hope they give Clepper another chance. 536 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: Now, Jamie, you are now doing this other smart podcast 537 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: and it's about this the classic books, and the book 538 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: is Fahida. Talk about this. 539 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 5: It's Fajida. It's also also by Vladimir Nabokov. He famously, 540 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: he famously kept a lot of notes, you know, fascinating 541 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: guy made him, made his wife care carry him around everywhere. 542 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: Wow, in a like a baby bjorn or something right 543 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: like it was. 544 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, as they got older, a Bjorn became necessary. But 545 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 5: for the first twenty five years of their marriage, it 546 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 5: was just just with her arms and you know, not 547 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: a not a critique on him at all, but his 548 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 5: weight did fluctuate, and so she was you know, but 549 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 5: she would carry him around and he would write on 550 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 5: these little note cards as she carried him around the block. 551 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: And he wrote a draft. I think that's this would 552 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 5: have been in the late forties, kind of a meditation 553 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 5: on what it's like being a first generation Russian in America. 554 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: And it was called Fahia and uh and it was 555 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 5: I mean, it was too controversial to publish. But after 556 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 5: pulling some strings I got I got a look at 557 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 5: the note cards and I well, you'll have to listen 558 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 5: to the podcast, but I do. Great. It's the most 559 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 5: fucked up thing I've ever read in my life. 560 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: I have a suggestion for the theme song. Oh yeah, 561 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: I'll do it right. 562 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 5: Now, please please please. 563 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: Not no no noa noa mat Man not no no, 564 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: na Matt. 565 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: Where's this going? 566 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no no. 567 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: No no no. 568 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: No no no no no no no that Bogeta. Oh 569 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: fuck fuck fuck fuck I said it bad. I said 570 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: it that fuck. 571 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: We can pick up just that piece. I have an 572 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: outro theme song. I mean, I know you that's probably 573 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: the way in. But I have a pitch. You don't 574 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: have to use it. 575 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: But this is being recorded, right, we can just do that. 576 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let's see if this, If this is a 577 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: good take, we can just put that on. So it's 578 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: let's do. 579 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby, 580 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: my baby baby back baby. 581 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: But I want my baby back, baby back, baby back. 582 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: I want my baby back, baby back, baby. 583 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: Chelise baby back by here us cheles. 584 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: Baby back for HEAs barbecues alveas. 585 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 5: So wow, So that one really smoothly. 586 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 587 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not trained or anything. I'm 588 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: very I'm quite musical, you're but I have no training. 589 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: I have no not like the. 590 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Technical piece of it makes no sense to me. And 591 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: I think would ruin it because I'm quite musical, just 592 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: sort of naturally. 593 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 5: I mean I can just hear in the way you 594 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: you attacked that note with such confidence. Hmmmm, it was increasing. Yeah, 595 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: I mean I would use, honestly, either of those. I 596 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: think that, you know, Sean, your outro goes perfect into 597 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: an ad for I mean, I personally, I'm going to 598 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: be so comfortable recording ads being like, hey, uh, if 599 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: you're enjoying this podcast, maybe you want some leggings that 600 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 5: cost five hundred thousand dollars, Like I know that this 601 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 5: is my you know, it's like when you listen to 602 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 5: a podcast and it's about well, the murder of someone 603 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 5: that they don't know, right, but at the end of 604 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 5: the day and you're like, oh, this is so sad. 605 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 5: But then you're like, wait a second, should I get 606 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 5: Hello Fresh? And then it's like, yes, you should, and 607 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 5: you know, put in code innocent I think that, and 608 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: then you get twenty there. That would be a good 609 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 5: experiment if they were like, hey, if you think they 610 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 5: you get ten percent off. If you will say on 611 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 5: record they're innocent, we'll give you thirty percent off. Wow, 612 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 5: that's a good system. And then Hayes. I think I 613 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: can use that intro and then I'll just correct it 614 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: at the end. At the beginning of every episode, I'll 615 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: be like, he meant keita and welcome to the show. 616 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: And he said right after, say and he actually said 617 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: right after that he knew that he was wrong and 618 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: that he said it bad. He did. He said that 619 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: right after. 620 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: He got nervous. 621 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: But the but yeah, h and say, that was the 622 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: first time I ever did it. 623 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: And would mine say that I panicked as well? In 624 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: case anyone doesn't like it, say that I was I 625 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: was having a panic attack actively and that I didn't 626 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: even intend to sing, and that that just kind of 627 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: came out of me. 628 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 3: Do you say that? 629 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: Do say that I was freaking out and visibly pretty 630 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: upset and like boogers were coming out and stuff. 631 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 5: Hey, everybody, that was my friend. Uh, you know, it 632 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 5: was his first time doing anything. And that's okay if 633 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: you think if you think she's innocent, Do I have 634 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 5: a toothbrush for you. 635 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: Now? 636 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: We can give some advice on the toothbrush ads if 637 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: you need any guidance, just sort of some dues and 638 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: don'ts that we've encountered. 639 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: Oh, okay, I would love them. Yeah, because I I 640 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 5: I've gotten I've gotten some notes back from the toothbrush folks. 641 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 5: I'll be honest. 642 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: Do say it goes in your mouth. 643 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: I've never do Okay, I haven't. I haven't. Maybe I 644 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 5: haven't been clear enough with my fan base about that. 645 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: Yes. 646 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: And if they say they don't want to do the 647 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: ads anymore, and then you just keep getting sent ads 648 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: because somebody didn't get told, do not tell them as 649 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: just act like nothing happened. 650 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Even if you've received two separate emails saying that they 651 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: were very angry with you and did not want to 652 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: advertise with you anymore, that's not the email that matters. 653 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: The email that matters is the one that says, here's 654 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: the ad for this week from a totally separate person 655 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: who hasn't talked to the like department and charged those decisions. 656 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's that's just I guess uh logic, Especially 657 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 5: if if you love the press, love the you know 658 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 5: who can relate, you know, I just love the products. 659 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Separate from any name of any product or anything. Would 660 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: you like if you learned about your toothbrush that they 661 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: were of such a superior quality and that the vibrating 662 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: mechanism was so gentle yet effective that if a burglar 663 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: were to break into your house, like in the famous 664 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: urban legend where the set of criminals shoved of family's 665 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: toothbrushes up their butt while they're on vacation and then 666 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: took photos of it with a camera, and when the 667 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: film was developed later, the family saw that they had 668 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: been brushing their teeth this entire time with toothbrushes that 669 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: were in their butt, that actually, this particular toothbrush could 670 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: prevent that from ever occurring because the sensation of having 671 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: the high quality and I'm not going to say the 672 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: name of the toothbrush, but. 673 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: No need, no need. I mean I feel like it's implied. 674 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: They say high quality. You know what it is. 675 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly what it is because it starts 676 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: with a Q as well, And that the sensation of 677 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: having it up there would be so pleasant for the 678 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: criminal that they would actually need to take it with 679 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: them and not be able to complete the prank on 680 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: you boy. 681 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: That make me sleep better at night. 682 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels so safe. I would I would throw 683 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 5: my nest cam in the trash and I would be 684 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 5: able to All I need is this high quality toothbrush. 685 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: And they were mad about that, and they were being babies. 686 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 5: They were being babies. That's that's honestly, that's embarrassing for them. 687 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: They were ripshit. They fucking rip on you, guys. 688 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 5: I gotta be honest. They liked us a lot, they 689 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: liked us a lot, but it was because you were, uh, 690 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 5: you know, we we were we were we were sucking up. 691 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 5: We were sucking up big time. I needed extra tops, 692 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: so I started sucking up. They sent me my tops. 693 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 5: I recorded an extra ad. I'm like, hey, thanks for 694 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: the tops, guys, and I said, hey, no problem, Yeah, 695 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 5: I got a ton of tops I got I got 696 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 5: a cabinet full of tops. 697 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 3: M hm. We have to do one second. We have 698 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 3: to do one of these books smart podcast. We are 699 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: doing it. 700 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: It's an emergency and we need to because we're dying. 701 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 5: Right, okay, so what what what are we? 702 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: I'm playing the tambourine. 703 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: I think Kevin is Kevin? 704 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: Are you playing a tambourin? I just keep hearing tambourine sound. 705 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 5: The listener won't hear it though. I put my tambourine 706 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 5: plugin on. 707 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: It's called d TAM. It's a it's a soundboard that's 708 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: really loud for us going on. 709 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need perfect concentration to execute this podcast. 710 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: This is okay, I remember what this is. This is Kevin, 711 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: and this is really problematic in my opinion, Kevin wants 712 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: to be known around town as Jeffrey Tambourine Kevin. 713 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 5: I mean maybe that would have been fun a couple 714 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 5: of years ago. 715 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 3: I know exactly. 716 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 5: Not now it's not funny anymore. 717 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: No. 718 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 5: Oh, that's so. That's honestly. I mean, there's just I 719 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 5: have a small list of people in my head that 720 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 5: I'm like, that would be so disappointing, and there it is, 721 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 5: he has, he has this. Kevin is on that list. 722 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 5: For me, it would be so disappointing. 723 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: This song called Jeffrey Tambourine Man that like he does 724 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: in this dealoment, He's like. 725 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: Hey, Jeffrey Tambourine Man, play a song for me. Larry 726 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: Sanders and Arrested and Transparent Rule and it's like, I agree, 727 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: those are three good shows, but I don't know why 728 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: you want to associate yourself with that person in particular. 729 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: It's just not I don't know. 730 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 3: Jason Bateman likes my song, and Will Arnett they defended it. 731 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm SmartLess. 732 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 5: Well, okay, Kevin, that's that's a big letdown, and it's 733 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 5: gonna and honestly, I think something that that you should 734 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 5: keep in mind is that affects your friends too, and 735 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 5: that you know. 736 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: They want to be involved. I only have one tambourine. 737 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 3: I could buy more. 738 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 5: Well, now, anyone who's posted you to Maine has to reconsider, 739 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 5: you know, and then there's gonna have to be a 740 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 5: new plug in to get you off of Maine. 741 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: This is Sonny all over again. 742 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 5: You gotta get scrubbed from me. 743 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm this Sundy. 744 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, wouldn't be the first time. 745 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 5: The well we had to you already had to scrub 746 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 5: you know, all of yours, yours and Sonny's collaborations. And 747 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 5: so when I think the YouTubers find it, it's gonna 748 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 5: start taking essays. It's all gonna make sense. They're like, well, 749 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 5: these guys were working together in the mid twenty ten, son. 750 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: I binary twenty nine circuit boards are going to crash. 751 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: There's servers roll over heat. 752 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to confirm a few things, and then 753 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 5: I got to I have to send up some proposals 754 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 5: because being early to this essay means that they'll get 755 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 5: you fifty dollars in three months oo, which is bit, 756 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 5: which would be a which would be really big for me. 757 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: I have a question that involves a little bit of 758 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: number crunching, and just because we do have someone who 759 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: is genius level on here, I wonder if you can 760 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: figure out in terms of individuals individuals in this country 761 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: who are responsible for the spread of COVID nineteen. Would 762 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: you say that our president is rapidly approaching sonic the 763 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: Hedgehog levels. 764 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 3: Ooh, and if you could crunch the numbers on this, 765 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: that would be great. 766 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 5: Now I'll do a little bit of crunching. I will 767 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 5: say that that's a Refinery twenty nine essay. 768 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: Right there, sonically super spreader. 769 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly. I would say that at this point, 770 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 5: you know, you might as well just say it. We're 771 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 5: all thinking it, and you might as well just say it. 772 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 5: And I think that yeah, you should. I would. I 773 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 5: would recommend disseminating that news as quickly as humanly possible, Okay, 774 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 5: I never And when you put it that way, it 775 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 5: kind of all brings it into into like sharp focus. 776 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: For mem Suddenly you go, maybe this guy's not doing 777 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: a very good job. I mean, he's practically. 778 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 5: I totally agree. I totally agree. I think you gotta 779 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 5: get good graphics for that. If you if you fumble 780 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 5: the graphics on that, I don't think that the message 781 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 5: is going to is going to be very clear. 782 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: If Sonic would have just worn a. 783 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 5: Mask, things would be so different. 784 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: Whatever it happened, it's you know, it's impossible. 785 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 3: That would also have been easier for them to fix 786 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: the the first kid, second one. 787 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: They spent all this money, were you doing the teeth 788 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: or whatever? 789 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 5: It's like, Yeah, if he had just been wearing a 790 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 5: mask and staying inside so much, I think that, yeah, 791 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 5: it would have said it would have said a better 792 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 5: precedent if Sonic had just stayed the fucking side for 793 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 5: that movie. Sorry to swear on the show. 794 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 2: Gotta go fast? How about gotta stay home? 795 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 5: You gotta stay home in socially distanced even from my. 796 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: Roommates, gonna saved a lot of lives. 797 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 5: I mean, when I watched Sonic, I'm like Sonic and 798 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 5: James Marson, they're a little too close. They're a little 799 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 5: too close for my taste. Who directed that one was that? 800 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: That was me? That was you. 801 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on the Yeah, I was at the 802 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: helm for that one. 803 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 804 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: I was yeah, dude, your right here. I was, uh 805 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: on the ones and two's and so yeah. 806 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: Sean physically removed every one of Sonic's original teeth wow 807 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 3: for the reshoots. Mm hmm. 808 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's impressive. I love I mean, I admire the 809 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 5: hell out of that. That to me is on the 810 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 5: same level. I mean it's on the same level. Is 811 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 5: when you know the star plays two parts instead of one, 812 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 5: and he's playing his own brother, and you're like, now, 813 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 5: wait a second, who's in the reverse shot? And it's 814 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 5: but then the movie is so good you forget. 815 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you do with the teeth? 816 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 3: Oh? What did I do? 817 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I got it. I grabbed my leatherman skeletol 818 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: and I pried him out. But like, what did I 819 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: do with them afterwards? 820 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 821 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 2: Put him under my pillow and I say, do anything. 822 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting, you know, I'm still waiting on that. 823 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm dropping hints around the house. Well, it'd be nice 824 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: if tooth Fairy would Uh. I'll say this because we've 825 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: talked about it. 826 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: They stink, they now, they absolutely spell like. 827 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 2: Shit, they smell really really bad. 828 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been there since since they. 829 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: Were made out of fish. Just for budget reasons, they 830 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: were comprised mostly of fish meat press. 831 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah. 832 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: It just reads on camera. It's like how ice cream 833 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: on camera is often just a scoop of mashed potatoes 834 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: because like the way the legs the same to the 835 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: lens and it's and you don't have to worry about 836 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: it melting, and so yeah, it was just easier. 837 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 5: It was a nice tree for Sonic as well. I mean, yeah, every. 838 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 3: Once in a while he could suck out one of 839 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 3: his own teeth. 840 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 5: But he could work through lunch that way. That's nice. 841 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: You'd think they would have been easier to get out. Okay, Sonic, 842 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: can you Sonic's gonna take lunch? Can we take one 843 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: second for lunch for Sonic please? 844 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 5: And then he would just suck on his mouth really hard. 845 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 5: Is that? Wow? 846 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's a book that we do it? And we'll 847 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 3: just do it like for one second. We only have 848 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 3: a smart book, smart book? 849 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, well, okay, I don't have any books in 850 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 5: this room. Let's see making fun of me, guys, I 851 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: don't you know? Okay, And she didn't see. 852 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: Any of the Submarine movie. And I'm really sorry to 853 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 3: do this, but like, you have to have a book. 854 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 3: I do feel when you're in these situations you talk 855 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: about doing smart show, you. 856 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 5: Have to have a book behind me your room. 857 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 2: Please. 858 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, you're right. But for me, I 859 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 5: have so many books that they're in they're in a library, 860 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 5: and that's just a whole separate room. I don't need 861 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 5: books in my bedroom because you know I'm not I'm 862 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 5: not insecure, you know, I don't need I Oh what 863 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 5: am I going to do? Read a book in my bed? 864 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 5: No way here we can do this? 865 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 3: Do I have so many books here? 866 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 5: You got to book? 867 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: Okay, reading this one? This one is called Spaceman's the 868 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: Ultimate Book. 869 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. 870 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we can do a podcast about this. So 871 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 3: how do you like? You read it? 872 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 5: You read it? You read it? Or yeah, you read 873 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 5: it first and then you have you have your friends 874 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 5: for anything. 875 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 3: You don't do it. You don't do an episode that's 876 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 3: like okay, here I go. 877 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 2: Or opening it up, what's here's the copyright date? 878 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 5: If you sort of if you sort of know what happens, 879 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 5: you can just kind of be like, no, this is 880 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 5: probably what it's about, and then just go back and 881 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 5: skim and check, just be like, oh, I think I 882 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 5: was pretty close. And then no one, no one listening 883 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 5: is going to read the book. 884 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 3: That's interesting because they listened to the show. 885 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 5: They listened to the show for me to tell them 886 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 5: what the book is about. 887 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: This is called Spaceman the Ultimate Book, So I have 888 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: to assume that it's a biography of James Mar's man 889 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 1: Sonic's friend. 890 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 3: Is it? 891 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 5: Is it a biography autobiography? I don't I don't know. 892 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 5: I haven't read that. 893 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 3: He checks in every once in a while. It's mostly biography, 894 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: but he just verifies here it's in a different font. 895 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, and then where what's your what's. 896 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 3: Yourning on the top of the page, kind of like 897 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 3: he can't actually physically interact with the book, so he's 898 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: getting stuck in the middle sometimes and he's like, holy smokes, like, 899 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: let me out of here. Who uses cyclops powers splits 900 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 3: the book in two halfs? 901 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 5: WHOA? So what are you gonna talk about on the podcast? Then? 902 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 5: Is that the book sounds fucking awesome? 903 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 3: And like you say, like and it's there's a part 904 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 3: there that's like it says James Marsden is unhappily divorced, 905 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 3: and he takes his cyclops powers and takes the on 906 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: and he lasers it. 907 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: And the book starts learning in your hand. 908 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 3: Actually, I'm very happily divorced. 909 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 5: I really like. I mean, that's I don't even know. 910 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 3: If that's true. I don't know if anything in this 911 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: book is true. 912 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think I learned anything, but 913 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: I had a last. 914 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 5: I mean, you watch him go on a journey, right, 915 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 5: He's on his journey, and that's kind of more of 916 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 5: what matters is. 917 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: He's he's journey. He does go to jeaker store. Yeah, 918 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 1: he gets rocket dog shoes. 919 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 5: He's got I bet he takes the little hat hook himself. 920 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 5: He doesn't wait for an employee. He takes the hat 921 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 5: hook himself. He says, no problem, I've got this, And 922 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 5: then he gets the hat right on top and just 923 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 5: tosses it over his shoulder. No problem. 924 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: He is the worst. I just looked. 925 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 5: Oh is he? Is it happier? Does it specify on 926 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 5: Wikipedia whether it's happy or unhappy? 927 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 3: I didn't mean to talk about that. 928 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 5: Oh wait, let's see. 929 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 3: I didn't know if any of that was real. 930 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 5: Well it says in parentheses, Uh, happy, happily, Okay, good. Yeah, 931 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 5: so it seems like it's probably not a big deal, 932 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 5: not a big I wouldn't worry about it. It seems 933 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 5: he's gone on the record. 934 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 3: And people, Yeah, I get pissed at me. It's like, okay, so, yeah, 935 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 3: you think James Marsin should have to stay married forever 936 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 3: no matter what isn't his best interest or best interests 937 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 3: of his family. Okay, I actually think you should be 938 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 3: able to do whatever he wants. 939 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 5: Oh well, if you bring up James Marson's marriage, people 940 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 5: are people are just immediately gonna come right at you 941 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 5: and say, well, humans don't necessarily mate for life. 942 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 2: The mob gets their pitchforks. Yeah, jeez, no. 943 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 5: It's so toxic, so toxic. 944 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 3: Hmm hmm. 945 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Sonny's fan base. 946 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 3: What is this March of the freaking mister Poppers penguins 947 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 3: over here? 948 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: Holy shit, dude, really cool. Question. 949 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: When's this new show come out? 950 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 951 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: What time? 952 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 953 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 3: Why? 954 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 5: It comes out at the end of November. 955 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: Don't say the end of November. 956 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 5: I know, I don't want to make you think about it. 957 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: This. 958 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 5: Can I just say this month is going to feel 959 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 5: so long. Sometimes I'm like, is it October? 960 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and like, what's a month? And it's like October 961 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 3: five and twelve. 962 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 5: That's what's been a problem with the marketing for this 963 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 5: show is I say it comes out in late November, 964 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 5: and then everyone always responds with, oh no, not November. 965 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 5: Don't even make me think about November. And then they 966 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 5: shut it off. They just shut it off before they 967 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 5: I can that it's about. They shut it up. They 968 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 5: shut me out, they kicked me out, they hang up 969 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 5: by any means necessary, they stop engaging. It comes out 970 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 5: in late November. 971 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 3: And and we can be assured that Sonny will be 972 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 3: punished by them. 973 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 5: Correct Sonny will Yeah, it's impossible to know, you know 974 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 5: where where where things are gonna be with Sonny things 975 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 5: are well. 976 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 3: I think it would be good if you pledged that 977 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 3: Sonny would receive a major punishment on Mike. Certainly between 978 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 3: now and the the punishment that Sunny receives does not 979 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: have to be on. 980 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 5: Mike, because I don't want to just yeah, I don't want, 981 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to just berate my dog 982 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 5: on Mike for a vulture right up right, you know, I'll. 983 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: Take you at your word that the punishment will be severe, 984 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: but I think that promise would mean a lot to 985 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: your listeners. 986 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 5: I just, you know, I worry about giving you know, 987 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 5: giving him too much of a lead and knowing a 988 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 5: punishment's coming, because he then he might just run away. 989 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 5: So I don't feel comfortable making that pledge at this time, 990 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 5: but I will say that there is a pledge forthcoming, 991 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 5: and if you follow me across all social media platforms, 992 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 5: that's where I'll be giving updates on when the punishment 993 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 5: is going to be happening, whether there is going to 994 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 5: be a live streamlink, or whether it's actually going to 995 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 5: be kept privately in the family. Yeah, it depends, or 996 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 5: I might just throw him to the skunk cause it's 997 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 5: kind of impossible to know what's going to happ Yeah, 998 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 5: he got sprayed in the mouth and the eyeballs by 999 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 5: a skunk the other day, but he just he just 1000 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:14,439 Speaker 5: stinky stink. Yeah, his eyeball still smells like a big 1001 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 5: skunk ass. 1002 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: But it is I take a big goodbye goodbye. 1003 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 5: It's outward manifestation of an inner condition. If you ask me, 1004 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 5: good Bye, Hollywood, Hamburg,