1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of Clay and Buck starts 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody, thank you for being here with us. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: As you know, yesterday we told you about the situation 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: unfolding in New York City with Jordan Neely's death, and 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: this has gotten national attention and headlines and the political 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: lines on this have been drawn right away. People like 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: AOC and Aana Presley from both members of Congress, have 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: called it a lynching, have said that this was a murder, 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: have immediately taken the position that Jordan Neely was an 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: innocent victim. Here essentially, one difference between this people are 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: saying this is an effort to make it a George 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Floyd moment. One difference is, obviously this did not involve 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: a police officer. Summer pointing to the fact that there's 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: no police officer as part of why someone may be 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: just felt threatened enough that they had to take action themselves. 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: But there is no law enforcement involvement, So it is 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: a different circumstance in that respect. But that doesn't mean 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: they're not going to try, just as they did with 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: the Trayvon Martin situation, if you recall, Trayvon Martin was 21 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: shot by George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman was not a law 22 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: enforcement officer, not a former member of the military, just 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: a guy in the neighborhood who was carrying a concealed weapon. 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: They tried to make that into a and they did, 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: making it a massive national story. So this could be 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: a George Floyd moment, even though there's no law enforcement involvement. 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: We shall see how this plays out. A big question 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: that still is in the background of all this is 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: whether there will be charges. As we speak to you 30 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: right now, I don't believe that anyone really knows. I 31 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: don't think a decision has even been made internally by 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the District Attorney in New York about whether there will 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: be criminal charges brought against the man who has been named. 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I should add there has been now that the marine 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: has been identified as Daniel Penny, twenty four years old, 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: So Daniel Penny could face involuntary manslaughter charges or something 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: like that. Another complicating factor for the case legally and 38 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: politically is that there are two other individuals who also 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: felt the need to restrain Jordan Neely, including a man 40 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: who I believe on the video you can see is black, 41 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: and so it isn't just Jordan Neely who was involved 42 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: in this. And the president we've seen from the George 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Floyd incident is that even people who just recently they 44 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: sent that officer away, they added more years to his sentence. 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: He didn't even touch George Floyd. So there's a lot 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: that we don't know yet about where this is going 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: with possible charges. I don't think based on what we've seen, 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: there should be any charges. I think people are outraged 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: about the constant menace of going on the New York 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: City subway and other places in that city and being 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: threatened and spat on and groped and punched and attacked. 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: You know. Clay CNN did a story on Jordan Neely 53 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: and they talked about how his mother I think, was 54 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: killed by his stepfather, and also that he used to 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: be a Michael Jackson impersonator on the subway, and they 56 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: gave a very very sympathetic, as sympathetic as possible profile 57 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: of Jordan Neely. They did not mention once that he 58 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: had been arrested forty times, and they certainly did not 59 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: mention that his last arrest was for punching a sixty 60 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: seven year old woman in the face with such viciousness 61 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: and force that he shattered her nose and broke her 62 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: eye socket. Now, I just want to know how many 63 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: elderly women are supposed to have their face shattered by 64 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: this maniac before people decide that enough is enough. 65 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you really are being asked to. 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Look at. 67 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: Here, he was walking around. 68 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: The subway car saying, I'll go to prison forever, threatening people. 69 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: When you look AT's on the face in the ice cream. 70 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: I'll go to prison forever. I'll do life in prison. 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: You're suggesting imminent violence against them could occur, and you 72 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: don't care as the perpetrator of that violence whatever happens 73 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: to you. That's what he was shouting at people. That 74 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: has been confirmed, But I wanted to play this for 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: you as well. Clay. 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure you heard this this morning on some left. 77 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Wing I mean, all these people that are, oh I'm 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: a socialist, I'm so left wing. You know, they all 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: live in like mansions in Malibu and you know, have 80 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: like a five thousand square foot house and you know, 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: Calabasas or whatever. I'm a socialist. There's such frauds. It's 82 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing is so ridiculous. But on one of 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: these left wing socialist shows called The Majority Report, the 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: co host says that the desire I want you to 85 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: hear all this folks that, but just remember she finishes 86 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: with the desire to be safe physically on public transport. 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: That's a very bourgeois desire. 88 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Play two. 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: I was hit at one point sitting on the subway 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: by a man who was having a mental health episode. 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: He sat next to me, and he was elbowing and 92 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: kind of flailing around and hit me in the face 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: and in my body. And I it was jarring, right, 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: the idea that I would want him to be hurt 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: in any way. I just didn't want to be near 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: him in that moment because I understood something was going 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: on here. 98 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Every one of us who's. 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: Taken public transit has had this kind of situation, something 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: similar happened seeing someone struggling. That doesn't mean that our 101 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: fear in that instance. And I was a little scared 102 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: because I was hit, But like, my fear is not 103 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: the primary object of like what we should be focusing 104 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: on right now. It's the fact that this person is 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: in pain and so like the politics of dehumanization privileges 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: the bourgeois kind of concern of people's like immediate discomfort 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: in the narrow, narrow instance, as opposed to larger humanity 108 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: and life. It's really freaking twisted. 109 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: This is how we got to where we are. 110 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: Yes, people like this, yeah, completely, because there is I mean, 111 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: if you are hit, I mean she was assaulted by 112 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: a crazy person on the subway, and her response is yes, 113 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: I was frightened, Yes I was fearful, but I don't 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: believe there should be any consequences for the person who 115 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: attacked me. Now, we don't know the full scope of 116 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: what took place, right, there's relatively limited videos that are 117 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: out there. 118 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: Right now. 119 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 4: They have named this marine. If you look him up, 120 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: he is a veteran who grew up on Long Island. 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: Appears that he may also be the son of a 122 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: New York City police officer. So this is a guy 123 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: who likely grew up understanding the importance of protecting people 124 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: who are not as fortunate as he is. Right as 125 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: a marine for it appears four years and may well 126 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: have grown up of a New York City police officer. 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: His name is now out there. I'm sure that it 128 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 4: is unfortunately going to be unsafe for him to a 129 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: large extent, given all the pressure that is now building 130 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: on Brag and also on Eric Adams. The fact that 131 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: they have not acted yet Buck, I take as a 132 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: positive sign also a sign that probably, as you well know, 133 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: there is more evidence that will actually demonstrate the danger 134 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: that might have been involved here. And it does not 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: appear there was any intent. For AOC to immediately label 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: lynching is even a step beyond to pretend to It's 137 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: an attempt to based on race right entirely, as in, 138 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: this guy saw this black guy and decided that he 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: didn't deserve to live because of his race. It's a 140 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: very charged language that a sitting congresswoman should not use. 141 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: And even AOC to label this guy as a murderer 142 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: based off a short period of time. We don't know 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: what exactly happened here, but the fact that there haven't 144 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: been charges brought yet I would take as an encouraging 145 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: sign somewhat. The longer we go without charges, the more 146 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: I think there is likelihood for further evidence to come 147 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: out putting further context into this behavior here. And as 148 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: you pointed out, at a minimum, this is not an intent, right, 149 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: there is no intent to commit a murder. Worst case scenario, 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: it's a form of negligence that might rise to involuntary manslaughter, 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: that might be that kind of charge. Because here, this 152 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: idea that it was premeditated or even was so rash 153 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: of an act that it could have elevated to murder, 154 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: I think is laughably absurd just based off what we've 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: seen so far. 156 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Also, my understanding is, and we're still getting facts about this, 157 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: that the individuals here who were restraining nearly said call police, 158 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: get paramedics. You know, they wanted them to meet. They 159 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: wanted paramedics to be there at the next stop. So 160 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: they were trying to get law enforcement and medical personnel there. 161 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: And you know, there there was no desire I'm sure 162 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: on the part of any of the individuals involved. Look, 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: you have you have to really take a step back. 164 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: This is what I often say in law enforcement involve situations. 165 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: This guy, Penny, his whole life is changed now totally. 166 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: His whole life is changed. He knows that he may 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: be facing the machine in New York and he may 168 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: go to prison. There was no part of him that 169 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: was saying I'm just gonna kill this guy because I 170 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: don't like him. Correct, There was no part of him 171 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: that was saying I may throw my life away that 172 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: could end up being. 173 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: You know, we don't know what brag is gonna bring here. 174 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: There wasn't some. 175 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Malice of I'm gonna He knows he's on video, he 176 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: knows there's eyewitnesses, he knows there's a black guy who's 177 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: also holding nearly with him, because. 178 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: He was obviously scared of this guy nearly too. 179 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: Right when other people, people weren't putting Penny in a 180 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: choke Holt saying what are you doing? What are you doing? 181 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: They were helping him hold this guy because clearly he 182 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: had scared everybody on this train, and clearly this guy 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: is a threat to other people, because anyone who would 184 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: punch a sixty seven year old woman in the face 185 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: and do serious damage is one step away from throwing 186 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: somebody in front of an oncoming train. 187 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We all know it's true. We all know 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: it's there. 189 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: How many people listening to this would have hit an elderly 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: person in the face for no reason, hard enough to 191 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: send them to the hospital and almost make them go 192 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: blind in one eye? 193 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: How many people? 194 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Zero? 195 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: But now when you listen to this, Oh, it's about homelessness. 196 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: And the lack of swas Michael Jackson Jackson person forty arrests. 197 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: When you get to arrest number ten, can we all 198 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: agree this person needs to be taken out of society 199 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: for a while. Get all the help you want in 200 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: the Riker's psychiatric unit or at Ward's Island or wherever 201 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: it is they're going to send him. 202 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: Get all the help you need there. 203 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Fine, we can all agree this person was a danger, 204 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: was a danger to people in the subway. And the 205 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: fact that now you're even hearing from some of these leftists, Oh, 206 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, what's the big deal if someone hits you 207 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: in the face like that person's having a bad day. 208 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm sure they would be fine with it. 209 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: If they were punched in the face. They wouldn't want 210 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the cops, or they wouldn't someone. 211 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: To step in. But you know, this is the mentality. 212 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the victimizer is the victim on the left, that's 213 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: how they view it. 214 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: That's how many murder there's eleven murder victims I believe 215 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: on the subway buck this year so far. How many 216 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: murderers can you name? How many murder victims can you name? 217 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: Which goes to what we were talking about yesterday, the 218 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: immediate narrative and politization of this story. I would just 219 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 4: point out again, lots of murders have occurred in the 220 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: New York City subway. How many of you can name 221 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: this year eleven so far according to the date I looked up, 222 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: how many of you can name a person who's been murdered. 223 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 4: How many of you can name a murderer? No one, right, 224 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: I bet unless it was you or your family or 225 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: you were involved. Almost no one, I would say, who 226 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: is listening to us right now in twenty twenty three 227 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 4: can name someone who's been murdered? 228 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: And really let it down to this, What is the 229 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: lesson that we're supposed to take from this based on 230 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: the approach of this majority majority report, imbeciles and AOC 231 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: and Iona Pressley and all you know CNN and the 232 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: New York Times? What what is the lesson that they 233 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: are just they're just white vigilantes roaming the streets murdering 234 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: black people for no reason. Is that is that because 235 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: that is their belief? That is that that seems to 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: be what they're always suggesting to us. 237 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: It is a lie. 238 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: It is a lie. And yet this, just like the 239 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: whole uh BLM movement, is built on the lie that 240 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: cops are going around murdering on armed black men for 241 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: no reason on a regular basis, systematically and in large 242 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: numbers across the country, or in numbers that anybody uh 243 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's the whole thing, Clay, everyone is just 244 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: and this this really hits home. I think, is you 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: know for because I dealt with this. I've dealt with this. 246 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: Other people dealt with this in New York City. My 247 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: family members have dealt with this, My parents have dealt 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: with this. We all get sick of you have to 249 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: live in fear when some maniac gets on the subway 250 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: car starts threatening to stab people, maybe does rough somebody up, 251 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: and you know that the system won't lock him up. 252 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: Because people like AOC think that the price of social 253 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: justice is that your grandmam may have to get thrown 254 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: in front of an oncoming train, your grandma may have 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: to get punched in the face. 256 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: Social justice means. 257 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: That other people suffer so that people like AOC can 258 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: feel better about themselves. And that's why this has really 259 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: struck a cord. People have just had enough. They're just 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: sick of it. They're sick of it, and you know, 261 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: we're going to see whether the judicial system comes down 262 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: on this issue. They have not brought any charges yet, 263 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: which means, you know, all this talk of oh he's 264 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: a murderer, no one, there is no basis for calling 265 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: him a murderer. And a lot of people look at 266 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: this and say, you know, we wish we had more 267 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: individuals who would step up and stop the threats against 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: their fellow human beings that are occurring in cities across 269 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: the country on a regular base. So you know, this 270 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: really does. This hits home for a lot of people, 271 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: and we're all sick of the lies. We're all sick 272 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: of the nonsense from the left on it all. Right now, Look, 273 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: some people like to debate when the life of an 274 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: unborn child starts. 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Would be big news because it's been one 299 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy one days, an unprecedented amount of time 300 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: that Biden has not had a press conference, one hundred 301 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: and seventy one days and counting, particularly given all of 302 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: the incredibly newsworthy events that have been going on. So 303 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: he said, Hey, I'm going to be doing this press conference, 304 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: and then the White House almost immediately came out and said, actually, no, 305 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: he's not. 306 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: So Biden can't. 307 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: Eat even say something as basic as when he's going 308 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: to talk to the media. And honestly, it wouldn't be 309 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: a bad idea probably to eventually do a press conference 310 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: on a Friday headed into the weekend, when a lot 311 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: of that would theoretically get buried in terms of the 312 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: attention surrounding it. But the fact that the President of 313 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: the United States can be sitting in front of the 314 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: media announced that he's going to have a press conference, 315 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: everybody can react, share the tweet, say hey, let's get 316 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: ready for this, and then the White House comes back 317 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: and says, oh, by the way, that's not true. He misspoke. 318 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: That's kind of a big deal to misspeak about. But 319 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: it's just part and parcelbuck of what we were talking about. 320 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: Earlier to start the show. You are never going to 321 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: see someone as hidden as Joe Biden is going to 322 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: be hidden throughout this entire twenty twenty four campaign season. 323 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why I've been saying even they hide 324 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: his face when it was masking, and that they wanted 325 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: him to be masked up as much as possible for 326 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: a number of reasons. And then even wearing the aviators 327 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: all the time outside, and it's bizarre. I mean that wards, 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: these giant aviator sunglasses constantly, as constantly as he can. Uh, 329 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: I mean I think you might start let him wear 330 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: them inside too, like he may turn into you may 331 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: turn into Tom Cruise from what do you call it from? 332 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry Yer, you know, just wearing his sunglasses indoors. 333 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think we have closed ray remember that one. 334 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's great. 335 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 4: I think we have Biden here just so you can 336 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: hear it announcing his press conference before it later gets 337 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 4: walked back. 338 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: You know, I think we we've got a lot of 339 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 5: work to do. I'm and I'm doing a major press 340 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 5: conference this afternoon. So I love you all, but I 341 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 5: like cash good Leaf, swing your town business. 342 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Okay, we can cut it off. There, but but I 343 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: love they all pretend like they're really oh yeah, ask 344 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the tough questions is he's like, you know, stumbling away 345 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: and not gonna ask anything. 346 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: To say I'm going to have a major press conference 347 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: and then have everybody have to say oop, sorry, that's 348 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: not true. 349 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: Just more inconfidence. Look, I know how goes out of 350 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: the range. Most people show up and they just you know, 351 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: pop off a few rounds and then they go home. Right, Well, 352 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: are you getting any better? Do you want to get better? 353 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: Do you want to have better shooting mechanics a fire 354 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: gun and have tighter groups down range? Then you got 355 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: to try the Mantis X system. Mantis x is something 356 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: I've got at home. It's so easy to download the app, 357 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: you take it out. It looks really cool too when 358 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: it arrives at your house and you set it up 359 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: on your firearm. I attach mine to my staccato and 360 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: then I just use it to get better. It teaches 361 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you with data. It's a data driven firearm teaching tool 362 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: so that you can do dry fire practice at home 363 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: and improve your skills. This thing is amazing. There's a 364 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: reason why US military is using it a lot. Law 365 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: enforcements using it more and more. You got to get 366 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: yourself a mantis X to make your shooting better. Go 367 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: to mantisx dot com. That's m a and tisx dot com. 368 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: It's important to know that totalitarianism does not allow for 369 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: self defense. In a totalitarian society, you have no right 370 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: to defend yourself. You have whatever the state gives you, 371 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: whatever the government, whatever those in powered decide. If your 372 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: life is forfeit, your life is forfeit. If policy means 373 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: that you can't feed yourself or you can't defend yourself, 374 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: too bad, that that is really definitional for a totalitarian society. 375 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: The left in this country is increasingly and more obviously 376 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: totalitarian in its inclinations with each passing day, and this 377 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: is why they really hate self defense. This is a 378 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: parent They do not like it when someone defends themselves 379 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: against a criminal and uses lethal force, particularly if the 380 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: person is you know, law abiding gun owner. They find 381 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: this to be an issue of well, all the things 382 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: they always say. It's it's somehow oppression, or it's it's racism, 383 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: or it's always they always have some attack on people 384 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: who are themselves, depending on the circumstances of who's involved 385 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: in what's going on? Right? It's all This is about poverty, 386 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: This is about you know, oppression. This is always about 387 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: something other than maybe someone just doesn't want to be attacked. 388 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Maybe a human being does not want to be in 389 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: threat of extreme injury and or death because someone else 390 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: to borrow from that left wing lunatic from before. It 391 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: is having a bad day or whatever, you know, it's 392 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: having some sort of life crisis. 393 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: Well you see this again that we talked about the. 394 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: Situation of Jordan Neely, and I mean, R Clay, can 395 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: I just ask you, right, do you think I you 396 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: know what, I can't even I'm trying to process this. 397 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to charge them? Do you 398 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: think they're going to charge them? Because right now I 399 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like they might not actually, and 400 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it out loud just because 401 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want to. 402 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: My theory is that they're waiting on the toxicology reports 403 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: to find out what exact. Now I know people can say, 404 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: well geor Boyd had you know, drugs in his system 405 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: and everything else. I think it's both the toccology reports 406 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: and I feel like there must be videos also that 407 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: we have not seen. 408 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: We should see what the you know, I think it 409 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: would be very helpful and I, by the way, I 410 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: would very much want to see it. How threatening was 411 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: this guy? We've heard quotes of him saying I'll go 412 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: to prison forever. Correct, Well, if you're gonna go to 413 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: prison forevers because he killed somebody. So if you're saying 414 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: that you're willing to go to prison forever and you're 415 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna go up in people's faces, the implication is I'm 416 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna kill somebody on this train. 417 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: And I bet not only his past criminal history, Buck, 418 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: but I would bet they are also trying to piece 419 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: together this guy's activities that day because there may be 420 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: footage of him theoretically from inside the subway. Maybe he 421 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: was being physically violent with people even before this incident, right, 422 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: because it's unlikely that suddenly he was behaving completely normally 423 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: and then suddenly he just lipped. 424 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: As you remember, even in the Michael Brown incident, he 425 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: engaged in a strong arm robbery of somebody, physically assaulted someone, 426 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: instole something from a shopkeeper right before that incident, and we. 427 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: Were told, how dare you bring up the fact that 428 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: this guy is going around You know, you know and. 429 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 4: Even when George Floyd, the reason why police were called 430 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: was because he put forth a counterfeit bill inside of 431 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 4: the convenience store. So the larger circumstances here make me 432 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: think that the answer is. 433 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: No, we'll see. Yes, I agree with you right now, 434 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: but I just feel like, oh gosh, you know, because 435 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: this could become such a mess for the city if 436 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: they bring charges against this guy. All right, but San Francisco. 437 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this as well because San Francisco 438 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: had an incident recently where an armed security guard at 439 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: a Walgreens was involved with a fatal It was, you know, 440 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: use his weapon in self defense fatal shooting at a 441 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Walgreens in San Francisco. We know San Francisco has effectively 442 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: legalized theft anything less than nine hundred dollars, you won't 443 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: even be arrested. This is destroying the city. Everyone's aware 444 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: of what's happening now with it Chesa Boudan, The DA 445 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: voted out because you know, it's such a mess of 446 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: a place when it comes to crime. But this is 447 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: back on April twenty seventh, and the district the new 448 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: district Attorney, Brooke Jenkins explained publicly why she is not 449 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: She has not yet and it looks like is not 450 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: going to bring charges against this Walgreen security guard who 451 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: killed a shoplifter and then was assaulted play clip twelve. 452 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 6: In this situation, we had a shoplifting incident that really 453 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 6: escalated into an altercation that under the law, qualifies as 454 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 6: a robbery given violence ensued and some threats were made. Ultimately, 455 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 6: the security guard fired his firearm in what he articulated 456 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 6: was based on reasons of self defense. We had to 457 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 6: examine all of the evidence in this case, the video, 458 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 6: his statements to the police, as well as witness statements, 459 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 6: and ultimately did not believe that we could meet our burden, 460 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 6: which is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he was 461 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 6: guilty of a crime in this case. 462 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: Now, Clay, there is video which they have not released yet. 463 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: My sense is this video likely shows the shoplifter being, 464 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, going after the guy. I remember, if you 465 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: have a gun and someone starts pummeling you in the face, 466 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: you are in a lethal threat situation because that gun 467 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: can be used on you. Every cop listening to this 468 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: nos this. That gun can be turned on you instantaneously. 469 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: So someone who knows you've got a gun, your arm security, 470 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: and they're going to physically assault you. You now are 471 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: in a position where you could very quickly be in 472 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: fear of your life. I just want to note this 473 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: is at the town hall meeting about the security guard. 474 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: This is San Francisco Residence Clay. There they're screaming about 475 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: this play eleven. Okay, I saw that sounds like a 476 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: nightmarre on Elm Street. So they're screaming about this that 477 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: they're angry that the charge chares aren't being brought. 478 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: So that may well be happening right where. You have 479 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: these crazy lunatic. 480 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: Activists on the flip side though, Bucks, So I think 481 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: it was horrendous. Again, so I realized I thought they 482 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: were gonna be, you know, shouting, and it was gonna 483 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: be that bad. That scared me. 484 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 4: I think there's a huge population out there, even in 485 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 4: cities like San Francisco and in New York, who are 486 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: very sympathetic to the idea of individuals having to protect themselves. 487 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 4: And I think that DA's are slowly reckoning with this. 488 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 4: Because if you're da Alvin Bragg, for instance, Buck, and 489 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: you bring this case against this marine, and the marine 490 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: presents well they lay out all of the circumstances surrounding it, 491 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: and he beats the charges. 492 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: He becomes a hero. 493 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: He becomes a hero for many New Yorkers out there 494 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: who have these Walter Midi moments. Everybody has them right 495 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: where someone who you know is engaging in y behavior 496 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: or violent threats. And for those of you who remember 497 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: the Walter Mitty was right, the famous poem where the 498 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: guy has all of these different day dreams where he thinks, Oh, 499 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to be a hero. I believe it's Walter. 500 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 4: You know, I can't believe you don't know this one 501 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: of the most famous poems ever. I think it's Walter Mitty. 502 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: But they have these moments in their mind where they think, 503 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: I wish that I had been brave enough to do 504 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: something in this scenario, and most people are not willing 505 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 4: to do something, but they empathize and actually in some 506 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: way believe that the behavior of a guy like this 507 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: is heroic. And I think even in the back of 508 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: his mind, Alvin Bragg recognizes that that's not uncommon right 509 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: now in New York, and same thing in San Francisco. 510 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: The Secret Life of Walter Mitty is a short story 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: by James Thurber, and it's his most famous one from 512 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: The New Yorker in nineteen thirty nine. You've never heard 513 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: of this, I mean, oh my goodness. And it was 514 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: also made into a very bad Ben Stiller movie. I 515 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: knew that they made it into a movie. 516 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: But the Secret Life of Walter Mitty, I think I 517 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: said a poem, but it's It is an incredible short 518 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: story about a man who basically fantasizes that he actually 519 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: does the things in his head that many people would 520 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 4: do throughout the day. And it's a fabulous short story 521 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: and it's very, very famous. And I'm outing myself here 522 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 4: probably as someone who minored in creative writings. So read 523 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 4: every short story an this short story of New York 524 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 4: in nineteen thirty nine. 525 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: My friend, I'm gonna tell you, I'm not sad that 526 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: I missed this one. I'm curious how many other people 527 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: had any recollection of what I'm talking about here. But 528 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: the point is there is this I think visceral response. 529 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: Many of you out there listening right now have been 530 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: in a scenario where you made what might well be 531 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: this smart decision. We talked about this buck in the 532 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: context of the guy with his kid and his wife 533 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: who was being rated and lambasted by violent threats on 534 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: the subway, and he didn't do anything against the child. 535 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: That's right, That's what I'm saying. 536 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: And a lot of dads, I think in particular, saw 537 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: that video and thought, man, that guy deserves consequences for 538 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: his behavior. But the better part of your brain is like, 539 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: but he might have a knife, and he might stab me, 540 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 4: and he might stab my wife, and he might stab 541 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: my kid, and so the smarter thing to do is nothing, right, 542 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 4: But really, what should happen in a just world is 543 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: that guy should have consequences for Is that? 544 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, how much psychological damage are good people who 545 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: are mining their own business and not a threat to anyone, 546 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: How much psychological damage are they supposed to take? Because 547 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: the left in this country thinks that enforcing the law 548 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: is mean, that's really ultimately the question, it's a mean thing. 549 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Criminals are the real victims. That's the basis of all 550 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: of this is the criminals are the victims because society 551 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: failed the criminals, and so the people who are being 552 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: victimized by these criminals are part of the problem because 553 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: they want there to be something done about the criminals. 554 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: That's how the crazy town goes in a circle. Here. 555 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: Even worse than that bucket's racist, Well, you're right, I 556 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: mean it's racist for a white person to, or an 557 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: Asian person, or a Hispanic person, or even a black 558 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: person to. 559 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Want these criminals who are happy to be black. Right. 560 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: The data reflects this is the whole idea of systemic racism. 561 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: And I always say that the ultimate punchback on this 562 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: is how come there's no systemic sexism alleged we're men. 563 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: Ninety five percent of people who get arrested for violent 564 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: crime at least are male. Nobody ever says, oh, the 565 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: police are systemically sexist. They typically are going to arrest 566 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: people who are engaging in violent behavior, and the data 567 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: reflects that black people are more likely to engage in 568 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: violent behavior most of the time with black victims. 569 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: But that is. 570 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: The cardinal element here is they have convinced woke white people. 571 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm betting that chick who we played the audio of, 572 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: I'm just betting a white woman on MSNBC saying like, oh, 573 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: you should expect to get assaulted on Probaly Subway. 574 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Probably lives in a really you know, high rent part 575 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: of Brooklyn and and that's of course yeah, and wants 576 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: to tell everybody else who has to be on the 577 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: subway at two o'clock in the morning back from their 578 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: minimum wage job. If a lunatic spits in your face 579 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and hits you, you know, you shouldn't expect the cops 580 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: to do anything about it because that person's having a 581 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: bad day. That's right. 582 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: This is the world that we've created, and the only 583 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: way to solve it is by people voting for politicians, 584 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: as they did once back in the day with Rugi Giuliani, 585 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 4: who actually say we're going to enforce the law no 586 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: matter who the people are who are getting arrested, because 587 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: ultimately a tiny percentage of the population in every city 588 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: is actually acting out upon white black Asian And the. 589 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: Other part of this, too is if it were a 590 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: a and there, I have seen, you know, maniac. 591 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: White guys on the subway too. 592 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: I have seen this. 593 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: If a guy who's a white guy. 594 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: Is doing this, I would also say I want someone 595 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: to step in and do something. Okay, we just all 596 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: want to be safe on the subway. We don't care 597 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: what the skin color of the crazy person is. Violent 598 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: criminals of all races should not be on the streets. 599 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: They should be locked up so that all races white, Black, Asian, 600 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: and Hispanic are protected. But the fact that it's racist 601 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: to somehow do that is a huge part of the 602 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: underlying story about how we treat crime here that has 603 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: been allowed to fester, This idea of systemic racism. Online 604 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: identity thefts to silent crime. 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Want more 621 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck that you didn't here on the show. 622 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: Get podcast extras in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, 623 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: find it on the iheartab or wherever you get your podcast. 624 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're headed 625 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: into the weekend. We appreciate all of you hanging out 626 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: with us. Would like for you to subscribe on our 627 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 4: YouTube channel, Play and Buck. You can also go subscribe 628 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: to the podcast. Join the tens of millions of month 629 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: downloads that we are very thankful to have from you. 630 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: Also lots of people coming into the podcast network. Buck 631 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: does unique podcast more and more there that you will 632 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: not hear on this radio program, although you can also 633 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: hear the radio program itself. Maybe you like the segment 634 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 4: and you enjoyed a guest, Julie Kelly, is going to 635 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: join us in the next segment to talk about the 636 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 4: January sixth trials. Where is this going? She has been 637 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: one of the foremost experts on covering all of this, 638 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 4: so she will be with us next. Maybe you're gonna 639 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: enjoy that interview. Maybe you enjoyed some segment that discussion 640 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: and you want to share it with a friend. That's 641 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: how you can do it on the podcast, also with YouTube. 642 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 4: But Buck, it is Sinco to Mayo. And when we 643 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 4: came in here before the show, I was telling you 644 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: that of all the tweets that Donald Trump has ever 645 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: sent in his entire life, I believe the funniest tweet 646 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: of all time is the Donald Trump Cinco de Mayo 647 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: Taco bowl I Love Hispanics Cinco de Mayo tweet with 648 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: Trump sitting at a desk in his suit with a 649 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 4: huge taco bowl in front of him. Literally like I 650 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: remember when this came across the timeline. I I do 651 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: not remember the last time I saw a tweet that 652 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: made me laugh harder than Trump celebrating Cinco to Mayo 653 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: with the taco bowl and saying I love Hispanics. 654 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm finding it. I'm finding it right now. We need 655 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: to share this from the key everyone needs. Yeah, can 656 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: we put it up here? Here we go. This is 657 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: of all the Trump tweets, and there's also a photo 658 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: that goes with you. It's the funniest tweet that he's 659 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: ever since. It is happy Cinco de Mayo. The best 660 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: taco bulls are made in Trump Tower grill. I love Hispanics. 661 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: Exclamation point. That's what he, that's what he. 662 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: Well, you have a tequila drink in honor of Cinco 663 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 4: to Mayo today? 664 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have some tequila to night in honor of 665 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: Sega to Mayo. I was, you know, it's a whole 666 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: longer story, but I remember I was threatened with all 667 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: kinds of trouble when I was in college at AMers 668 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: because my dorm. Everyone lived on campus in dorms. My 669 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: dorm decided to throw a Senco de Sinco. Senko Sinco, 670 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: it's Cinco de Mayo. I always say it, like the 671 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: French way Cinco de Mayo party. And they put out 672 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: these invitations that said, come celebrate your Mexican independence. It's 673 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: not Mexican Independence Day, so totally made up American holidays. Well, 674 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I think it commemorates a battle with like, but it's 675 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: not a big deal in Mexico. Right, one of the 676 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: Cinco de Mayo is bigger here than it is, correct, 677 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: It is it is an opportunity to sell tequila and 678 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: and corona in this country, and I'm sure they do 679 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: very well on that. But yeah, it's a there's a battle. 680 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: It's like the Battle of. 681 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: Chapoltapek or something. I forget what it is, but it's 682 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: not Mexican dependence. 683 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: So I the the Trump tweet the second French Empire 684 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 4: at the Battle of Puebla in eighteen sixty two. There, 685 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 4: this is what we're celebrating. That was a battle that 686 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 4: took place in the middle of the American Civil War. 687 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: I think Chapol's effect to be a nerd was the 688 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 4: Mexican American Yes, correct, in eighteen forty six to eighteen 689 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 4: forty eight, when we gained more of the Texan property 690 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: out there in the Southwest. When we come back, Julie 691 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: Kelly's going to join us. I'll just tell you this. 692 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: No one has covered January sixth, the resulting legal related 693 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 4: issues from January sixth, better than Julie Kelly. As Buck 694 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: told you earlier in the program, she came on a 695 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: year ago basically and said there's one hundred and ten 696 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 4: percent chance that Donald Trump is going to be charged 697 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 4: with crimes relating to January sixth. How did the Proud 698 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: Boy trials factor in? What more is out there that 699 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 4: we all need to know? She's next final hour of 700 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 4: the week playing Buck