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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lally here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt that it's time for us to do

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Speaker 1: a mock draft today. We're going to use Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus their mock draft board here and this uses some

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Speaker 1: of their rankings, their rankings. It's the problem I have

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Speaker 1: with this. Their rankings don't necessarily always match up with

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Speaker 1: I get you. You you do. You have your staff,

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Speaker 1: you make your you put your rankings out there, you

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Speaker 1: stick by your rankings. I get it when you when

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Speaker 1: your rankings are completely off from what everybody else has,

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Speaker 1: you might hand you think your rankings a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think if we think your rankings. And I

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Speaker 1: respect these sites that think outside the box, but it

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Speaker 1: makes the Matt mock draft simulator'll unreal. Example, for example,

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Speaker 1: last year they had Naja Harris is like the sixtie

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Speaker 1: player on their Every year, every draft we would do,

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Speaker 1: we would end up with Najia. We could think Jay

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Speaker 1: Harrison in the second round. That was never gonna be

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Speaker 1: the case. We know the glitch in the system after

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Speaker 1: a while, right, and this year, I think Howls are

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Speaker 1: number one quarterback. And obviously they're gonna rank running backs

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Speaker 1: like super super low. I mean, just because of Philosophically,

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Speaker 1: that's what they think, and I respect that. But my

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Speaker 1: suggestion to them would be if they had a feature

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Speaker 1: where they could mix their rankings FI Verse consensus rankings,

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Speaker 1: then it might be a little more more realistic for

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Speaker 1: US folks using their simulator. Yeah. I just uh, I

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Speaker 1: just took a look at their rankings. They have Derek

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Speaker 1: Stingley is like their second best player in this draft,

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Speaker 1: so and I get it. Yeah, and that doesn't really

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Speaker 1: influence us. He's not gonna be funny the way whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start the drafting. We're gonna get rolling. One suggestion,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you don't mind this. Let's pretend Willis

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Speaker 1: gets drafted even if he doesn't. Well, we don't have

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Speaker 1: to because the Saints took him at sixteen. Okay, cool.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not that he's off the board, but it

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Speaker 1: complicates things if he's there every time. He is the

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Speaker 1: only quarterback that has gone though. That's cool for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely under I'm I'm glad we're having this conversation.

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Speaker 1: So the top players available according to their rankings Tyler Linderbaum.

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Speaker 1: They have Bernard Raymond ranked eighteenth overall. We just did

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Speaker 1: the mock draft with Todd and mel and he was

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Speaker 1: at the end of the second round. Uh, the Kobe

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Speaker 1: Dean at nineteen. Jordan Davis is still on the board.

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Speaker 1: Don't have a problem with that. They have Sky Moore

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Speaker 1: in this draft. Okay, I mean, I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: the craziest thing I've ever heard. But they also ranked positions.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna value d tackles, which is probably why

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Speaker 1: Davis is low. They're gonna value quarterbacks, are gonna vent

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Speaker 1: value tackles, you know, I mean, I get all that.

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Speaker 1: But they have Lewis seen as their twenty sixth rated player.

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Speaker 1: Travis Jones is their twenty seventh rated player. He might

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Speaker 1: I like Pickings a lot. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: have him that high overall board, but boy, I like

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Speaker 1: him a lot. Jermaine Johnson is thirty two. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to be there, but we're not taking them anyway.

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Speaker 1: We're not taking him. Yeah, Trevor Penning is thirty five,

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Speaker 1: he's still like that. So they're boards a little bit

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Speaker 1: different than well, pretty pretty much everybody else out there.

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Speaker 1: It is anyway. I mean, so in this situation, Davis here,

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Speaker 1: think you might just take Davis. I think you take Davis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and trading down to be interesting, but I think you

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Speaker 1: take Davis. Yeah. Don't look at right, there aren't many

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Speaker 1: this works out well? Uh Leo Chanel available. Should like them,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm taking a linebacker high in

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Speaker 1: this draft. You'll like this next ones you call him Brisker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think in this situation they would just take Brisker.

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Speaker 1: the positions. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with that,

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Speaker 1: I would love Marcus Jones in the third round, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think we could take three defensive players. Danny

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Speaker 1: Neil Farrell still available. Now. We took Davis, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: has Zachary Thomas, the offensive tackle on the San Diego

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Speaker 1: Eric a zukanama a zu Konma out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Do you know much about him? A little? But he's

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Speaker 1: do you feel in there? Matt Barns the corner. I

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Speaker 1: And we've gone three out of four have been defense.

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Speaker 1: We probably need to worry about the other side of

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more, don't be it? All right?

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Speaker 1: We don't have another pick now till round six. I

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Speaker 1: mean I would consider running back. These last three picks

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Speaker 1: Probably not now. They both wouldn't make the team. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we know the first round guys making it team.

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Speaker 1: I think Jordan um Jack Sandberg, Sterling Weatherford. Sterling Weatherford's

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Speaker 1: interesting because he might be a linebacker. He says, to

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Speaker 1: with him later. Special team for people who don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's Sterling Weatherford six pounds and it's like Eammy of Ohio,

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Speaker 1: a four five guy that he's he played safety at

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Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio. But is he better than Marcus Allen?

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Speaker 1: Potentially I'd rather have him on the roster than Marcus Allen.

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Speaker 1: He's cheaper. He's cheaper, and he might turn into something

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Speaker 1: he's interesting. Special teams values immense right off the bat there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cordell Wolson, the offense attackle on the North Dakota State.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting too. Yeah, as is Ryan van Denmark at

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Speaker 1: a Yukon. He's the only other Yukon player in this

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Speaker 1: Volson are both tackles. I wouldn't mind adding a tackle here,

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Speaker 1: all things being equal, You like Volsen or Denmark? I

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Speaker 1: don't care. Well something Yeah, something's fishy in Denmark. Let's

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Speaker 1: take let's take Wolson. He might make the team. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: We're back up here again too. This is a nice thing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of these same guys. Um,

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Speaker 1: how about Weatherford. I'm looking to see if he's still available,

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Speaker 1: and he is not. He gets scooped up. Yeah like him.

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Speaker 1: You know who is available? Marquise bell On US Florida

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Speaker 1: A and m all right, big fast safety. Um originally

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Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly uh We.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this edition of The Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio.