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Speaker 2: Also over the weekend I saw I didn't listen to

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Speaker 2: Space is going on a real hip hop, real hip

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Speaker 2: there apparently. And again I don't have all the details here,

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Speaker 2: I just saw the aftermath. Apparently j Cole was not

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Speaker 2: hip hop because he went to college. They've been saying

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Speaker 2: that though J Cole isn't hip hop because you went

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Speaker 2: to Deaf Jam was founded in NYU dorm. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: what do you do?

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Speaker 3: That's that's not that's not new rhetoric at all.

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Speaker 1: Really, J Cole isn't hip hop because he went to college.

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing people like, yeah, I wish you would

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Speaker 2: stop rapping about student loans. Cole. You're on your third album,

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Speaker 2: you're like a multimillionaire. Don't tell me about student line.

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Speaker 3: That was a good time.

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Speaker 2: But I've never seen anyone say because you went to college,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all know why. I think Jake Cole and hip hop,

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Speaker 1: but not because you didn't want to college though, Like

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Speaker 2: I mean, bad timing is puff hip hop because he

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Speaker 1: At Howard's Yeah, I mean, I don't that's that's somebody And.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's a direct thing, but you know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just I think that's just people looking for engagement.

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Speaker 1: That's just stupid. J Cole is definitely hip hop, even

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Speaker 1: though he went to college. Again my feelings aside.

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Speaker 2: What doesn't make you hip hop about college?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when you get there, Like people don't,

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Speaker 1: college is just high school. You just sleep there. You

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Speaker 1: but that's not much different than the high school. And

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Speaker 1: I never went to college, but I was there enough

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Speaker 3: And at least the first two years of.

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Speaker 2: Rappers that went to college that just don't talk about it,

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Speaker 2: you'd be very surprised. Yeah, it's like a lot of

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Speaker 1: Ice Cube, Yeah, ice Cube, somebody go to me ice

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Speaker 2: Noney he has an architectural degree.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it definitely does. But I never knew that

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Speaker 2: rappers that went to college, you know, AI never lies

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Speaker 2: never Uh we knew Luda did m hm quality went

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Speaker 2: to what City College?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Two chains? Childish Gambino, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably that is a surprise when he probably went

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Speaker 1: He went to Harvard Business School. But that's that's just

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Speaker 1: like when they give say this, Nigga been a superstar

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Speaker 2: Like when did he go to that? LL go, don't

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Speaker 1: Nah, I'm talking about when moms was like, Nigga's either

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Speaker 2: I seriously have no idea what college Kanye West went to?

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Speaker 2: Like where did he drop out? Chicago State University.

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Speaker 1: But this is before he became Kanye the artist.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think Logic went to school. That's weird.

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Speaker 2: Uh Megs, that was like her whole thing, right, Meg, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: For what people's careers end all the time?

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Speaker 2: It's a promise she made her family that she would

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Speaker 3: We see fail rap careers all the time?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I agree that all the time.

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Speaker 2: What was Meg's degree?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she work at a call center and ship

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Speaker 2: is it gonna work out? She went to tsue? Okay,

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Speaker 2: she could do what mal was doing in the hospitals.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I I took pride in what I did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I took pride in my work.

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Speaker 2: What type of pride you took?

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Speaker 1: I took pride in my work man making sure making

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they was cool I run into the store because

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Did you check their paperwork

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Speaker 2: to see if they could have a colson on if

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Speaker 2: you want to die?

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Speaker 1: Like doctor didn't understand why they pressure wasn't dropping like

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Speaker 2: I mean, they't even give death row inmates food before

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Speaker 2: they died. Like I wanted to go out, all right?

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Speaker 2: I would like if I knew I was about to die,

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Speaker 2: I would definitely appreciate if mal went and got me

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Speaker 2: a man, like, come on, man, what you want?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: All right, I got you man. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: But back to my dying wish. If I know I'm

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Speaker 2: going to die, can you go out and get me cracked? Yes?

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Speaker 2: All right? Cool, I got you no more. But if

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Speaker 2: all right, man, I gotta get you there, just smoking

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Speaker 2: cracking next to your oxygen machine, like just sneaking crack

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Speaker 1: Do that ship they be fucking in the hospitals, whatnot?

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Speaker 1: Who'll be fucking? That's content? Patience, no patience.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I always thought there was like a joke

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Speaker 2: from like Happy Gilmour where all the the old people

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Speaker 2: it's content or only who is Wait, all right, so

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Speaker 2: patients are fucking other patients or patients are fucking nurses.

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Speaker 1: No, they're fucking like they're partners.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I've done.

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Speaker 1: That, That's what I'm saying. You acted surprise.

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Speaker 2: I know. I thought it was like like Rando's Like

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Speaker 2: I thought like the nurse came like this is like

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Speaker 2: don't feel like that happened. No, no, no, oh no,

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Speaker 2: I've definitely fucked the significant other in the hospital before.

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Speaker 2: I mean just a right pull it down to the

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Speaker 2: uh check your temperature, recto, Yeah yeah, listen man, the

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Speaker 4: I used to hate that, yo, like I hated rectal thermometers.

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Speaker 2: Bro, I don't ever, I have no remembrance of ever

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Speaker 2: having a thermometer mask.

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Speaker 1: I could call my dad right now. He would tell

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Speaker 1: you the story about how I cursed out everybody in

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Speaker 1: your dad do not let him stick. No, I was

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Speaker 1: a kid cursing out everybody, like, don't let him stick

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Speaker 1: that in my butt.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't playing that ship.

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Speaker 1: Check, yo, for give me that ship put it under

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Speaker 1: my tongue though, you know, putting none in my ass

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Speaker 1: to check my kinky this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not that sick. More accurate, We ain't got to

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Speaker 1: I'm not that sick.

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Speaker 2: I'm alright.

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Speaker 1: Let's get a little cold, nigga.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got to steal my Ass's why we drink

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Speaker 2: through our butts too, like to get drunk or remember. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember no Wady doing that. Did we talk

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Speaker 2: about that, No, to o the tampon, Yeah, the tampon

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Speaker 2: and then yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that though, I don't believe people did

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Speaker 2: But how old was you? Because imar had that should happened,

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Speaker 2: And that was the first time I've ever even seen somebody.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was like almost a myth. No, like

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Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was like dogs

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Speaker 1: Get that ship. I might have been five six years old.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I see that's that's kinky, A baby baby.

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Speaker 2: I have no remembrance ever I'm sure it happened to me.

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Speaker 2: I will call my he will tell you how I

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Speaker 2: was cursing, Like, yo, do not let him stick that

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Speaker 2: It's got a fever like this. My ass isn't hot.

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Speaker 1: Like my head happened to the back of the palm here,

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Speaker 1: remember to do that, like just right here, like you

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Speaker 1: gotta stay right here.

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Speaker 2: You putting themme in my get the and I've been

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Speaker 2: sitting in the emergency room for three hours. I got

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Speaker 2: swamp ass.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't with that. I wasn't even as

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Speaker 1: a kid.

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Speaker 2: I knew something wasn't right with that, Like no, no

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Speaker 2: remembrance of that whatsoever of having that done. Jake Paul

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Speaker 2: Tang Davis announced boxing is at its peak. Finally boxing

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Speaker 2: is back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I ain't mad at tank Man.

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Speaker 2: Get that bag. I'm not mad at him either.

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Speaker 1: Get that bag man.

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Speaker 2: And as much as I give the Paul brother shit,

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Speaker 2: everyone get money man. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's entertainment. We know what this is.

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Speaker 2: This is just entertainment, okay, but they got me on

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Speaker 2: like their last ten fights. I don't really know if

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna like tune into this.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're definitely gonna tune into this.

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Speaker 2: I can just see the replays on this is. This

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Speaker 1: But this is this is Jake's toughest opponent. This is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, but already watch it. It's rule there's

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Speaker 1: There's no rules. It's actually it's actually a bounty on

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Speaker 2: They all right, but they say that every fight and

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Speaker 2: then it ends up being an exhibition. Now I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they said that. I don't know if they

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah I thought knockouts, but like not allowed on

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Speaker 1: No, there's like there's a there's a there's a bonus

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Speaker 2: So like they head hunting, man, what's what's in the

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Speaker 2: fine print? I feel like with these fights, they need

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Speaker 2: to show us the con This the only time I

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Speaker 2: like sign it in person.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you want to you want to make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a ligit fight, because this is insane

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Speaker 1: No, this is a legit fight.

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Speaker 2: Like even I thought it was insane with Tyson. I

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Speaker 2: don't care how old he is. Anytime the Paul brothers

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Speaker 2: I think both of them, especially Jake, are great fighters.

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to shoot on their abilities. But it's

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Speaker 1: No, they're gonna have rules.

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Speaker 2: You have to have rules, regular rules of boxing. I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 2: Most value of emotions co found in the Kisha bit

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Speaker 1: To be agreed upon. All of this is still being negotiated.

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Speaker 1: So however much Tank is able to weigh, I don't

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I don't I just think that'll

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Speaker 2: Like absolutely no, like that's happened with all their fights.

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Speaker 2: You know they're gonna Paul and Floyd Mayweather one like

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Speaker 2: they weren't milking that old they went the distance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but again that's.

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Speaker 2: Tyson Ship like Tyson still Tyson Like. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: She's significantly smaller than Jake Paul, but he's was significantly

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Speaker 1: smaller than Logan, but yeah, but he's still He's still

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Speaker 1: Tank is still still very dangerous in that ring, no

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Speaker 2: So this is Jake Paul. This is his biggest fight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do you think the I guess quote

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Speaker 1: I guess I thought it from you know, when Tank,

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Speaker 1: type of thing. So that's why this came. This fight

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Speaker 1: finally came to fruition because Tank wanted to fight. He

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Speaker 1: So they obviously, you know, made it happen. But again,

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Speaker 1: I do think that Jake Paul's bigger all right. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's might.

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Speaker 2: But tough of a fight. And I think Jake Paul

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Speaker 2: the Paul brothers have fought real boxers, it's been Mayweather

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Speaker 2: at the end of his career type like they always

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Speaker 2: do it with the older legacy real boxers, which is cool. Whatever,

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Speaker 2: it's fun, it's entertainment. I'll pay ten ninety nine for it.

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Speaker 2: How would the boxing world view Mayweather when we've been

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Speaker 2: Wasn't Floyd retired? No? No, of course, I'm saying Tank being

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Speaker 2: saying no other fighter in there. Like imagine if Zab

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Speaker 2: Zad like, what yo, what are you? What are you

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Speaker 2: deal with it. Matter of fact, we're starting to respect it.

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Speaker 2: But it's always the legacy acts. Of course, Tyson, if

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Speaker 2: he wants to go get a bag, he's older, it's fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but now you're now you're really mixing these worlds with

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Speaker 1: But it's different with Tank because he's not ducking nobody.

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Speaker 1: He's already fought everybody he's supposed to fight. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: Lamont Roach fight. I think it's still going to happen

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Speaker 2: Congrats to the Paul brothers by the way. Now he's like,

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Speaker 2: if anyone wants to question anything, you have been solidified

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Speaker 2: Like this stamped it. Tyson didn't stamp it. Mayweather didn't

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Speaker 2: that these are professional box You can't say a word

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Speaker 2: about Jake Pono. How could you? The number one in

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Speaker 2: his prime is fighting right now. Legacy acts.

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Speaker 1: But if you go in there and get knocked out,

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Speaker 1: we can start looking at Jake a little now as

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Speaker 2: So Jake has nothing to lose here if he gets

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Speaker 1: No, Tank is a llegend.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's a legend. Jake has not to lose here. Tank. Literally,

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Speaker 2: we used to joke, Yo, Mayweather, you're doing this like

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Speaker 2: Now it's for real. If Jake Paul goes to distance

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Speaker 2: with TAPS, he has the entire legacy of boxing on

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, man, I I kinda want to

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Speaker 3: Man, you fucking lion.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't what we doing. I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm just like the distance.

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Speaker 2: Uh? And Jake's what usually two five two to.

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Speaker 1: Like two ten to fifteen something like that, two hundred?

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Speaker 2: All right? Do we think Jake will lose weight? No?

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Speaker 1: I think Jake losing weight. I think he will something.

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Speaker 2: Because now we're getting we're getting into live box saying

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Speaker 2: This isn't some old guy that's getting a bag. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but we have to get we have to find a

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Speaker 2: It doesn't worry that's Jake Paul not going into a

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Speaker 1: One fifty five, Jake Puling in one fifty five, He's

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Speaker 2: Yet not, you don't think Jake. First of all, Jake,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying like Jake anything, but he has been

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Speaker 2: not looked this way life in high school? Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: all right? When was it Jake that thought of joy

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You thought he was one fifty five when he walked in? No, no,

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Speaker 2: I want to know what way he was at that

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Speaker 2: probably two hundred. Was that Logan or Jake? I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: didn't take more bets on that. I was dying laughing

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Speaker 2: when people, oh yeah, like please talking about Jake Paul's

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Speaker 2: I didn't say he was one fifty five. I thought

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Speaker 2: he going in there? He might. I think he'll get

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Speaker 2: that was twenty twenty. It's been Jacob. But I think,

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Speaker 2: definitely wasn't two hundred even. He was more than it

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Speaker 2: might have been two twenty five. He was more than that.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's been a big fighting a

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Speaker 2: Nate Robinson fight he was twenty seven, from the Tysons

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's gonna be an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: I take it. Tanks reach? Can we pull up tanks reach?

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Speaker 1: Difference to tank is like five to seven. I think

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Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah, it's gonna be see. But I don't like

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Speaker 1: But the reason when I start looking at this, consider

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. No, no, no, Because listen, that's what I'm saying.

440
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Speaker 1: I might be inclined to just put some money on

441
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Speaker 1: Jake going the distance or something like that.

442
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

443
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 1: If I want to bet on him knocking Tank out,

444
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not going I'm not gonna do that,

445
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 1: but go to distance because I think I think Tank

446
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: going in there to knock him straight out, Like Tank

447
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 1: wants to knock him out. Now, is he would he

448
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,479
Speaker 1: be able to? Is he going to?

449
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

450
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: I think Jake Paul is a lot.

451
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 2: It would be like an exhaustion knockout. He's not going

452
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 2: in there haymaker knockout. He would have to wear him

453
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Speaker 2: out for rounds to the point that he's just getting xhausted,

454
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 2: and then just one is just putting him down.

455
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Speaker 1: All it takes is one.

456
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Speaker 2: Oh no, of course, But there's there's exhaustion knockouts and

457
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 2: then there's straight up.

458
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 1: But no, you can you can get caught with one

459
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 1: when you fully your tank is full. And if you

460
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: get caught with one, all yeah, you played.

461
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: Fight night before. Even if you get with a hate

462
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Speaker 2: make all night in real life and be at one

463
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Speaker 2: hundred percent with the cheat CODs knocked out real life

464
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Speaker 2: clean knocked out, this.

465
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Speaker 1: Is gonna be a good fight, though, I think there's

466
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Speaker 1: gonna be a good fight.

467
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Speaker 2: I do think this will be a good fight.

468
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Speaker 1: I know people how they feel about Jake Paul, and

469
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 1: obviously Tank Davis is a fucking legend, but I do

470
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Speaker 1: think I think there's gonna be a better fight than

471
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Speaker 1: people think.

472
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Speaker 2: It's funny because I like Jake Paul a lot, but

473
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Speaker 2: I also like rooting against him. Yeah, that's why everybody's

474
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: people want to see him get knocked out.

475
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Speaker 1: It's because you want that. They want to see him

476
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Speaker 1: get his head knocked off.

477
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Speaker 2: But it's such a weird thing in my head because yes,

478
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: I want to see that too, because I want to

479
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 2: prove that, Like it's almost like wrestling is real like boxing,

480
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: like now you can't fuck with real boxers. But he

481
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 2: continues to prove himself. But this is the one. If

482
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Speaker 2: he wins, I'm sorry, He's.

483
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Speaker 1: No, I don't do that because if he went, not

484
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna say, yo, they paid him to win and all

485
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: of that, Like y'all not gonna give Jake Paul's credit,

486
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: So don't do that. I do think it'll be a knockout.

487
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: I mean, his brother couldn't even be Jelly Rose, Like,

488
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: what are we talking about he did. They did be

489
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: jelly roll he did. Yeah, we're talking about that was

490
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: in the script. See do you go with the scription?

491
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: Do you go with this script? Shit? Either way?

492
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: November fifteenth, I think November fifteen, sixteenth, nineteenth, one of

493
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Speaker 1: the One of the Teens, sixty seven, November fourteenth on Netflix,

494
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Speaker 1: Netflix right in Atlanta State Farm Arena.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Netflix, man, have y'all servers updated that skipping shit.

496
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 4: I was dealing with that last fight, bad service all

497
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Speaker 4: of that.

498
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: Have that fixed. Make sure y'all got enough fucking computers.

499
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: Because that's gonna be this. Everybody's watching this.

500
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Speaker 2: I'm starting to walk back son in my text right now.

501
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: Why they have a ten inch difference on reach? You

502
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: don't what it's like to fight somebody with a tent

503
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: like they have ten inches? Told you I might even

504
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: trying to get to you is like I.

505
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Speaker 1: Might want to put some money on Jake Paul.

506
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: You just have you know quick, he'll find Angle.

507
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Is the better fighting by far. Think is the better fighter,

508
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: by far. He's the better fighter better box by far.

509
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: Goes without saying significantly bigger than when you got a

510
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: white boy in that ring that you know he willing

511
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: to die in that motherfucker.

512
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Speaker 1: J Paul willing to down Netflix. You niggas ain't willing

513
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Speaker 1: to down Netflix.

514
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: That's a fact.

515
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Speaker 1: He willing to down Netflix. I don't know, man, I

516
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I gotta wait till the odds come out. I

517
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: look at FanDuel when it gets closer and see, like

518
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: what they saying, See if I can put a little pull,

519
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: pull a little something on Jake Paul going a distance

520
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: or something like.

521
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: That where they fight. That is it in Vegas, Steve

522
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: fhar Marina, Joe Atlena, oh oh Man hit volume right

523
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: now if we're not ringside and dealers over, Yeah, I

524
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: don't want to be right. That was in our stimulation

525
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: with in our contract.

526
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: The ring side you get Basseeleen Blood.

527
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: Specifically with Tang Davis and Jake Paul. We were ahead

528
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: of our time. We said, if this fight happens, we

529
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: gotta be ringside.

530
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: As a slight tank is a slight favorite right now.

531
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Speaker 1: So I'm saying, man, it might be you might be

532
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: in kind to put a little something on Jake Paul. Man,

533
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just the distance, at least to go

534
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: to distance. They got Jake Paul with a sixty four

535
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Speaker 1: percent chance of winning. Oh, Tank, I'm about to say

536
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: they got Jake with a sixty four pers That's even

537
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: crazy to me. That makes me want to put something

538
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: on Jake. So I'm trying to tell you sixty four

539
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: percent chance and win it for Tank right now, I

540
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: don't know, man, It's gonna be interested though. I still

541
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: think Tank is gonna win to fight, but it's gonna

542
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: be interesting, It's gonna be it's gonna be fun to watch.

543
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: But I do think Tank is gonna win to fight.

544
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: Well, since we've seen you, which I told you off

545
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: Mike that Cardi B was cursing me out on Thursday

546
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: night at midnight, I was praying to God that Imaginary

547
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Players was good, just so I could save my own

548
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: mental health and my own phone and her messages that

549
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: I was going to get. What did you think? I'm

550
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: honestly saying. I do like the record. I do. I

551
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: think she was talking to shit. I think it was

552
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: a cool, a cool flip, same concept. I think it's

553
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: a cool girl version of that. I think it's great record. Yeah.

554
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 4: I like that she leaned into that because, like I've said,

555
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Speaker 4: that's where Carti separates herself from the rest of the

556
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 4: female rappers is the fashion shit. She's always been so

557
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 4: into fashion shit the moment she got famous. So yeah,

558
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Speaker 4: I'm happy that she leaned into talking her shit with that.

559
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it, glorial bars. I like the watch

560
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: taking the links out like she has some bars and there.

561
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a great record for women. And I'm

562
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 2: actually glad that they just left the beat kind of

563
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Speaker 2: as is, because I mean, not even back to the

564
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: also thing, but in general we've talked about like some

565
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: of these flips are getting we're absolutely out of control.

566
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: So I'd rather her just wrap over the original beat

567
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: than try to flip it and make it something that's

568
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: not in sound weird, like to imagine a players drill record.

569
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: I just don't good. So that's what I would. I

570
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: don't think be scared that it was going to be that,

571
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: but I know, I think it's a cool record. I

572
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: thought the video was great. Yeah, that's that's really my

573
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: take on it. I don't know if I don't know

574
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Speaker 2: if it's what I really feel or if I'm terrified,

575
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: but you know, it could be fair. No, No, I

576
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: really do like the record, and I thought the video

577
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: is great. Thoughts on the bronzeledgend you already have imagined

578
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: a players.

579
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, I love Cardi.

580
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: You canna be honest, you can be honest sniffles for

581
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: this whole time now obviously got sinuses.

582
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I love Cardi and I'm supporting Cardy. I

583
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: thought it was cool, okay.

584
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: I just.

585
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if BK Tied Away would have proved

586
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: rest in peace be K tied away if I don't

587
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: know if she would have been jacking it, Like, I.

588
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: Just you know what it is.

589
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: I think it's I just I don't know, and I

590
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: don't I try not to listen to you know, a

591
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: lot of these newer artists with the same hip hop

592
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: ears the same music is that I was raised with,

593
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: only because it's just a different time now. But it's

594
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: just something about the record that doesn't feel authentic to me.

595
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: It just feels too placed. It's like they would It's

596
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: like almost like chasing you know, the fact that it's

597
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: a sample from a song that we all know. Some

598
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: people didn't even know the song since the first time

599
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: they're ever hearing about Imaginary Player, But it just feels

600
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: too I want to say produced. It feels too coached,

601
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: like I don't I don't. I don't feel what Cardi

602
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: is saying, Like really the glory whole line I thought

603
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: it was was hilarious.

604
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: That was a slick line. I like that, but.

605
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: It's just something about I didn't like the ad lib,

606
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: like I don't like the bitch like it just was

607
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: like it didn't it's this is supposed to be played.

608
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be cool. It's supposed to be It

609
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: just felt like it was too very this like say this,

610
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: say this, say this, say it like yeah, I just

611
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I just didn't believe what she was

612
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: saying in it. Now we all know Cardi is successful,

613
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: and you know she's fucking rich, and you know she's

614
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: doing her thing Like it's no, we get that part,

615
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: but it's just something about the song that when we

616
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: heard the sample was coming, I'm like, okay, cool, Like

617
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, legendary classic record. Not a lot of people

618
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: touch that record, if anybody has ever done it. So

619
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to that, but then when we

620
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: got it, I didn't. I didn't like walk away from

621
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: the video feeling like damn, Like Cardi went up another

622
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: she went up a level with this one.

623
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean, but do you know delivery not coach per se,

624
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: but she is, and I don't mean this in a

625
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: bad way. It is very much like she's reading off

626
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: the paper. But that's her style. Like, yeah, but I

627
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: don't think that's works. I'm not saying lines like I

628
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: like those Balenciaga's, the ones that look like socks like,

629
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: but that's the I think that's why people like it,

630
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: because she delivers it that way.

631
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: But then you can't do that over this sample, because

632
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: that's not the point of it, is that this sample was.

633
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: This was very cool, very laid back, very you know play.

634
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: This was like Jay was really style in this whole

635
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: record in a cool way. He wasn't you know, It

636
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: wasn't too much aggression. It wasn't you know, like you

637
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: believe what Jay was saying.

638
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: But so you think she should have completely redid imaginary players,

639
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: like not put her own twist on.

640
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: No, she could, and she she did, she'd put her

641
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: twist on it. But I'm just saying that. I just

642
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, just hearing it again, say I

643
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: didn't know who Cardy was. This is the first time

644
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: we hear this, This this this this artist, like I

645
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: would be like, yo, but why does she sound like that?

646
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Like why does it sound like she's punching in every line?

647
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like it didn't, it didn't,

648
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: It didn't just didn't feel authentic to me. It felt

649
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: like who told you to say that? Like that's how

650
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: it felt to me, Like, Yo, who told you to

651
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: say that?

652
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

653
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: Because when you even if and that's the thing that

654
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: people don't and I could be totally wrong, you know

655
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

656
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm open to being wrong.

657
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: Cardi may have written this herself, like she may not

658
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: have no writers in the studio when.

659
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: She did this right.

660
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what it says on the credits.

661
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: And in the past when Carti has had assistance with writing,

662
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 4: she's had those writers credited on songs this one.

663
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: She's So even if she did say she wrote this right,

664
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: you can't read it learn the lines like live with

665
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: the Live, live with the actual record. So when you're

666
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: not it doesn't feel like I'm reading this as I'm

667
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: rapping this, because if you're rapping it, you can't be

668
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: It's a fine line between rapping and reading just the

669
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: way you say certain certain words, the way when you

670
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: jump off of a word to get into the next word.

671
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a style. It just has to

672
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: flow a little more seamlessly. And I feel like this

673
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: was very like, it was very staccato. It was very

674
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: so I.

675
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: Understand that, I understand exactly what you're saying. I think

676
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: the reason why that is, I don't think it has

677
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: anything to do with reading. I think it's because of

678
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: Carti's accent. I think recording songs is a little bit

679
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: harder for her because I think what she's trying to

680
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 4: do is make sure y'all understand her because she's been

681
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: criticized in the past for her pronunciation not being that great.

682
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: And I think that's why it sounds like she's reading

683
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: it or saying it so hard, because she's trying to

684
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: make it like she's trying to make y'all hear it.

685
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you saying over annunciates yeah purposely. That's why

686
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: I think it's been her style, Like I hear you.

687
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: It definitely does sound it's such a but but I

688
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: feel like that's always kind of that. Even Bodak Yellow

689
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: to some degree felt that I felt like that became

690
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: her style, which is she's the only rapper that I

691
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: can think of that gets away with that and makes

692
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: it a style because we've been in the studio rappers

693
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: and I've that's the number one thing I say. It

694
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: sounds like you're reading off your phone right now, so

695
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: you're not rapping. It sounds like you're reading it like

696
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: you could tell the difference. But I think Cardi has

697
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: made that her her style, like that is kind of

698
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: her not.

699
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Because I heard Cardi songs where it didn't sound like that,

700
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, or at

701
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: least it wasn't as in your face, you know what

702
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, obviously you know she has an accent.

703
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean nothing to me. I'm from the same place.

704
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: I hear that.

705
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: To me, that's just how people talk where I'm from,

706
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's not even I don't

707
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: consider that an accent. When people in LA be like

708
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: you got a New York accent, I'm like, what the

709
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: fuck is that? Like I just talk.

710
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is when people from LA tell you

711
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: they don't have an accent.

712
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's a whole other thing. So Carti's

713
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: accent is not like I'm from the Bronx, you know

714
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's so that is not anything to me,

715
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Like I understand.

716
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: That, but it's still the words.

717
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: Just didn't you know again, she did a good job

718
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: with the with the flip like the sample, like not

719
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: mad at that, but I just wasn't in love with

720
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: it like I was. I thought this was going to

721
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: take you know, the cards shit up another level. Like

722
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: she's gonna look great every time we see us, so

723
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: visually everything is on point, you know what I'm saying.

724
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: We don't ever have to worry about that with Cardi.

725
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: She's gonna always look good anytime we see her, Like

726
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: we get that part. I'm more so on just the

727
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: music side. I'm a consumer of music, so I'm just

728
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: listening to the music and.

729
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: It was cool.

730
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm not in love with it, but I also don't

731
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: hate it. I don't hate it, but I'm not in

732
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: love with it. I'm just like, Okay, that was cool.

733
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: Do we think September nineteenth, right, Do we think we'll

734
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: get another single? And correct me if I'm wrong if

735
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: she's announced something that I don't know about. Do we

736
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: think we'll get another single before the album's one month away.

737
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: M I'm on the side that we're gonna get another one.

738
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: I think they're obviously gonna work this record. But I

739
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: think week of, Yeah, I can see week of for

740
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: a video another single. I think no, I think this

741
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: is the one they was this was it? I don't

742
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: think so.

743
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: And the reason why I don't think so is because

744
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: this is, uh, it's not a commercial enough song for

745
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: it to be a Cardi's like for it to be

746
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: the one that they're leaning.

747
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, neither was Bodak.

748
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: How many singles?

749
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: Was an accident? You said, what?

750
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: How many singles has she given us already?

751
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: From this out?

752
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Just outside?

753
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, just outside? This would be the second.

754
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you count whopping up if

755
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: it stuck, but yeah, I mean technically outside and this

756
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: is the only two.

757
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think a third one is I

758
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: got leaked.

759
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 4: I think the only reason why they put Outside out

760
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: is because it got leaked outside a video.

761
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: But it was going to be a single that was

762
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: definitely going to be a single, probably one that was

763
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: going to be a single.

764
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: But Outside, I think we get one. They don't get

765
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: more single than your song being called outside. I think

766
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: because we got two singles that are just Cardi, which

767
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate when that type of ship. I think we're

768
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: going to get another single with a feature, a big feature.

769
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: Who that is? I don't know, but that's what I think.

770
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: I can't see them just having two Cardis singles was

771
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: as is and not putting out one with a big

772
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: feature before the album.

773
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Who you think the feature will be?

774
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a good question.

775
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: Uh who does card got beef with? Who does she

776
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: not for? I don't know the girls beef like that?

777
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: Who is just Nikki from my understanding? So she cool

778
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: Lotto mm hmm.

779
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: She was just.

780
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: A couple of records.

781
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: It's still cool with Meg, right.

782
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think they'll go with the Meg Cardi.

783
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: They did that with Boggles again and I say it

784
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: didn't work. But about I don't know.

785
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be a girl.

786
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it'll be a girl either.

787
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: Unless it's an R and B singer.

788
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: So who would it be?

789
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: Like a gun or somebody like that? Nah, I would think.

790
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I know she has a record says already,

791
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: but I could see like a Scissor or something like that.

792
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: She had a couple of records with Chris Chris Kaylannie.

793
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: He said Jack Harlow that Jack Harlow and Dojer record

794
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: is fire, and it is. I don't know why we

795
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: all skipped over that record. That record is dope.

796
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: Which record was that?

797
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: It was his last single with Dojah. They're all in

798
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: a scott Lake and drama at the bar in the video,

799
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: DOJ went crazy on that. I don't know. I would

800
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: want to bad Bunny. I could see a bad Bunny

801
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Cardy record because with Jay Balvins on the last one

802
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: and there.

803
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: To get on, they're both bad.

804
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Bunny was on it too.

805
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm who would you like to see

806
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: Cardi do a record with Doja? Yeah? I think Doja.

807
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: I can also very much see Dochi being on this

808
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: Cardi album for sure. I don't think. I don't think

809
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: it'd be a single necessarily, But as far as Girl

810
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: would have.

811
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: To be a single, you're not going to have a

812
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: Dochi version and not be a single.

813
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: Their last album. I was gonna say she had all

814
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: and they weren't single. Yeah. Yeah, but they didn't know

815
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: what that album was going to do. Back then though.

816
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Nobody knew what that are.

817
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: You kidd it was like three number one records before

818
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: it came out. Yeah, yeah, I think they knew Atlantic,

819
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Maybe maybe Ice Spice. I'm not

820
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: mad about that. We didn't get to this last week

821
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: the Marisit tweeted out that Tyler was supposed to be Rihanna,

822
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: and Maul agreed with her.

823
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: I never said.

824
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: No. There's been a lot. Why has Tyler been in

825
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: the news this much lately? I saw Cardi was defending her.

826
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: She's just been the conversation. I haven't really understood why.

827
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: So what I'm assuming I can only assume is that

828
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: so Tyler released like a little, you know, little EP

829
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 4: with a single or two, and it's not receiving it.

830
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: It's the Cardi syndrome. It's not hitting like water. So

831
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 4: because it's not hitting like water, people are saying, that's

832
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: feeling right. Did you just thought the Cardi sent the

833
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: same thing you said, like if you if you do

834
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: so well on your first drop, anything to do after

835
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: as never, she's never gonna be able to match water

836
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 4: Like It's a fucking cluture.

837
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: That didn't even go number one, did it?

838
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: It didn't.

839
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: But it's it's more of the how big the song was,

840
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: and you guys were very surprised to hear it didn't.

841
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: Go number one.

842
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, so definitely felt like.

843
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: A number one.

844
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: I think that I think the issue people and what

845
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: people on the internet are saying. The issue is, oh, well,

846
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: because she says she wasn't black, she was cool. Well,

847
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: she didn't say she wasn't black, because she says she

848
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: was colored in which are South African terms. Because she

849
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: says she was colored, the black community stopped supporting her.

850
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's not why her EP wasn't as

851
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: successful as her last album, Like that has nothing, Like

852
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't know why people think that. They're like, yeah,

853
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: you need the background of the black community to get big, and.

854
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not. That's not what's going on.

855
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: To be fair, I think the EP didn't do good.

856
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I didn't even know she put a EP out, and.

857
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: That's what I think it is. I don't think it

858
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: has anything to do The music.

859
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Is probably great. EP is probably great. I just didn't

860
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: even know she put the EP out.

861
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see the EP WWP, which apologies, I'm not

862
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: sure what that that means but four pack first record.

863
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: Whiz Kid, what man, you're a peach Peach?

864
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: You said, w w P. I don't know what that

865
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: stands for. Peach Peche said what he thinking stands for?

866
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: What does he think it stands forth?

867
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm not repeating, I'm not even.

868
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: It stands for we want to party?

869
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Oh? Gotcha? Okay, that was a little was close. Wet

870
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: wet pussy, that's what he said. Yeah. It was like

871
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: the time when Chief Key put out his first album,

872
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: but I think it was a breakfast club. Somebody asked

873
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: him like, so, why did you go with the name

874
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: finally rich And he was like, I don't know. I've

875
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: seen like everybody was saying finally famous, and I was like, yo,

876
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm finally rich. That checks out. That makes sense,

877
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: he said. It was only Big Sewan named this album

878
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: finally famous, So Chief Key just stumbled upon like the big.

879
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: She was like, oh, I finally I'm finally rich. Here

880
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, so Tyler saw wap what that's pussy?

881
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: It was just like, well this is wet web pussy. Yeah,

882
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: all right, God hold up on the web, same thing.

883
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: It's her finally rich. That's finally rich. But why do

884
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: you guys think this isn't working? And I want my flowers?

885
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: It's okay if you guys want to know, give them

886
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: to me later. You know, she's in fact not Rihanna

887
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: the way you guys said she was. But anyway, I

888
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: like Tyler, but this, I mean, I feel like water

889
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: was pretty organic to start, and then they obviously worked

890
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: the record and you couldn't escape it because it's a

891
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: generational song. But I don't know, do they not know

892
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: how to actually work a Tyler album? Who was she

893
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: signed to? She is signed to Epic Records.

894
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I didn't see any The only promotion I

895
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: saw from it was Twitter saying that it did terrible.

896
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: I saw no promotion.

897
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: I had no idea this came out. This was July

898
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: July twenty fifthe I had no idea, Like I had

899
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: no idea she put out a EP album July.

900
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 4: It's given. Blame the team, whoever the team is, It's given.

901
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: Blame the team.

902
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: But even if I mean true, somebody obviously on that

903
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: side do enough to get it, you know, where it

904
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: needed to be. But I mean, this is still like

905
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: Tyler is a She's her name is big she's she's

906
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: a huge, huge artist.

907
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: Like that is a thing anymore unless you have like

908
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 4: a seven year fan base, and that doesn't mean anything anymore.

909
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: Were your name as far as selling records and being

910
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: you're big, it doesn't. That doesn't mean anything when it

911
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: comes to.

912
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: But even if you don't, even if you don't stream, well,

913
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: even if you don't. I'm just saying for Tyler to

914
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: have an ep out and most people not know she

915
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: has an ep out, that's a problem.

916
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

917
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Not even not saying people would download it because they

918
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: know it's out and people would stream it. I'm not

919
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: saying that, but people should know she has an ep out.

920
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: I agree.

921
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean I think if you have the success she's

922
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: had with in the last couple of years, I mean,

923
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: how could you not know that that artist is putting

924
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: the EP out? I just something is not Something is

925
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: off there.

926
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean, is it has twenty three million streams on Spotify?

927
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know, like what if that's based off

928
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: more playlisting or anything. But that's not like terrible, that's

929
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: metrics like.

930
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: No that she But I'm just saying people, I just

931
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: don't you didn't know she put an ep out? No,

932
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: you are, you are actively putting out music, like use

933
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: somebody that knows when music is coming out. That's what

934
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. People like that should not be oblivious to

935
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: the fact that Tyler has an ep of Like something

936
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: is something is awkward there, Like something's like why don't

937
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: people know that Tyler has an ep up?

938
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to like get personal, but

939
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: when we were having that conversation with the Rihanna versus

940
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: her and her having like remnants of Rihanna's early career

941
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: with a big record and you know, international and coming

942
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: to the States to break the record, there's always that

943
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: it factor too. And I'm not saying Tyler doesn't have it,

944
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: because I promise I really don't pay enough attention to

945
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: her outside of the music to know that. But that

946
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: is a thing that matters like a lot, is that

947
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: it factor that Rihanna has that personality, like that identity

948
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: is that can separate you from having just incredible music

949
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: and also being a pop superstar.

950
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 4: But also I wouldn't ask someone who was around from

951
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: the beginning of Rihanna's career like I was, that was.

952
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: The target audience. That's what I'm saying. I'm like that.

953
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: I don't even think that matters because.

954
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 4: Rihanna's personality of Rihanna didn't come around her Rihanna. Rihanna

955
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: didn't come around to around a third album.

956
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: Ray Lars when it like.

957
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like that third album when we got

958
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: like bad gal reed that that's when she become that.

959
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: Otherwise she was just the cute girl from Barbabi.

960
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. But even I mean outside of the the obvious

961
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: with the Chris Brown incident with the Grammys, there was

962
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: still you got to know her a bit more when

963
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: she started dating Chris.

964
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, So I.

965
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: Just feel like Tyler doesn't have that part, and I'm

966
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: not I'm not on some time like she's Ice Spice

967
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: or the I don't think the clock is on for

968
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Tyler at all. Like I think she's going to have

969
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: a long career. She's super talented, but that part to

970
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: me is missing as a casual consumer, like as the

971
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: person that's just like, oh, when's the next Tile album?

972
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm all right, cool, I don't know enough about her, Okay,

973
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: Like even I was not even mad. I know a

974
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: lot of people got mad at Charlotmae when he asked

975
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: like the questions that epic told him not to ask

976
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: with the color colorism and everything, and you know, she

977
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: was looking at her team and the team was like,

978
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: don't do that. Move on. I don't know. I feel

979
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: like that stuff is also important to like get to

980
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: know this person, to have some type of identity outside

981
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: of just being an amazing song writer. Yeah, but who

982
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: are who are you?

983
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: I don't blame her team for being scared when it

984
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 4: comes to giving up too much of who their artists is,

985
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: because you can be a personality, a personality, a personality

986
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: and you say the wrong thing in motherfuckers will cancel you.

987
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 4: And it's a sensitive climate. So I don't blame them

988
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: for being protective of shuck be cute and shucked fuck up.

989
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: But I do agree and in this same climate, you

990
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: can't just be.

991
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Or lean into all right, maybe prep her better. This

992
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: is where like artist development used to come in, and

993
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know, it's breaking the fourth wall

994
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: a bit of where they would prep artists to say

995
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: the right thing. And I'm not saying training, yeah, but

996
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: still lean into it, like having an opinion. Teach us,

997
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: like I don't think we should be telling Tyler about

998
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: her culture. Tell us don't avoid the question tell us

999
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: about it. Am I crazy for thinking about it? Yeah?

1000
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: You can if you were talking about anything else, Yes,

1001
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: But when it comes to race relations and America, we

1002
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: real sensitive about that shit, real sensitive obviously.

1003
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: But so I don't I don't think.

1004
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she should come in here and offend

1005
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: people and be like Elon is my cousin. Y'all aren't

1006
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: like I'm just like I only Trevor Noah is the

1007
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: only one I identified with. I'm just saying that's a

1008
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: culture that she would know better than us, And I

1009
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: think media training can teach you the best way to

1010
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: tell the world about your experiences. That's that's all. I

1011
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: think that's a disconnect because even with like Rihanna, when

1012
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, earlier her career, she was heavy leaning into

1013
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: the basing stuff because obviously she was from Barbados, but

1014
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: started to get more of an American identity and herself

1015
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: as it went on. But that's because they let Rihanna

1016
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: do that, like they let her have a vision of

1017
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: who she should be and what she wants to do.

1018
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 4: MA, what do you think about Tyler about just the

1019
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: conversation in general or where things may have gone wrong.

1020
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1021
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: I just think that is that's still early for her.

1022
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: I think it's still early for Tyler.

1023
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: She's young.

1024
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I think she has a lot of opportunity left. I

1025
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: think that they're still trying to figure out her sound

1026
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think this is still like a

1027
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: kind of like a figuring it out stage for her.

1028
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: She may be going through artist development in real time. Yeah,

1029
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: like artists don't. Artist development is not even the thing

1030
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: no more. It's like get a record, it goes viral,

1031
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: label gives your deal, put a project out, maybe you

1032
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: get a second project out, you know what I mean.

1033
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: But it's like I think.

1034
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: Tyler, they see that she's and she can be a

1035
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: long career artist, and I think they're just trying to

1036
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: figure out her sound and things like that, trying different things.

1037
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: I think, yep, four songs. I think, you know, it's

1038
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: kind of like spoon feed them, like just see if

1039
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: this works, see if that works. I think she may

1040
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: just be going through artists development in real time. I

1041
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: think they may be developing her in front of our eyes,

1042
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: like and then trying to figure it out. But I

1043
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: think she's talented. I think she has a cool personal

1044
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: I think she has a likable personality. I think people

1045
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: will naturally like her. I just think that she's just

1046
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: going through artists development in real time. I don't think

1047
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: that this is like any knock on her talent. I

1048
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: think I think that they're trying to figure it out.

1049
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: She's dope. And again she's also twenty three, so she

1050
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: doesn't really have an identity yet. Yeah, it's saying they're

1051
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: trying to figure out.

1052
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure he out.

1053
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: If she had no talent, I would be like, all right,

1054
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: clock is fucking on. If it's not connecting now and

1055
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: this was something that was put together just because you're pretty, yeah,

1056
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 2: I would say clock is on.

1057
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: She's she's very pretty, she's very talented, Like I think

1058
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 4: she has she I think she.

1059
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: Does have a star. Yeah, she's a star.

1060
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: She's a definite star. I think the music in her

1061
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: sound just have to catch up to her star quality.

1062
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: She's a star.

1063
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Like I think if any exec is sitting in the

1064
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: office and they see her and they hear water any

1065
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: of these records, they're like, oh no, we can definitely

1066
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: she's a star. We just have to get you know,

1067
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: the music to a certain level. Get a comfortable with

1068
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: certain producers and things like that.

1069
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: But we even want to say that because her her

1070
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: first album, and that's what my tweet originally was, Tyler's

1071
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: first album is good, not like you just hear it

1072
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: once and it's like, oh, this is cute little music,

1073
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: like I'll put I put on Tyler's first album and like,

1074
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 4: listen to it, Like the lyrics are good, the production

1075
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: is good. Like it's a really really good album. So

1076
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: that's why I was so surprised that this one didn't

1077
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: do as well. To be fair, I've only heard maybe

1078
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: two out of the four songs, and again it's an EP.

1079
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't get the.

1080
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: Same What is the features like? What was her like?

1081
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Does she do records with a lot of artists.

1082
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: Featuring on others? Not that much. I mean I didn't

1083
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: particularly love like and I know it's gonna look like

1084
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: more Travis Scott hate and I promise it's not like

1085
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: I didn't like that they put Travis on the Water remix. Yeah,

1086
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: that was weird. I liked on My Body record with

1087
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: Becky g I thought that made sense. Gonna I get

1088
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Times obviously.

1089
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 3: I guess that Times one is my ship.

1090
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, number one that's just far song. But yeah, you're right,

1091
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: she hasn't really featured on a lot of Like I'd

1092
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: rather hear her on a gonna album, I gonna on

1093
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: her shit, Like, I think that would help with her

1094
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: visibility and her new fans and just being more in

1095
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: the mixing. So I'm with you. I think that would

1096
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: definitely be the case. But when was the last time

1097
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: they the quote unquote industry has broken a black pop act. Yeah, exactly,

1098
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: because that's really the question that I when was the

1099
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: last time? Obviously we have the legacies who are the ones?

1100
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: But that's been like kind of I don't know, absent

1101
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: for how many years, Like when was the last new

1102
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: black pop act, especially female.

1103
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: That did well?

1104
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: Because remember Chloe at her moment when we thought she

1105
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 4: would be the one, and that didn't go the way

1106
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: it needed to.

1107
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even Peach are looking pa is looking

1108
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: it up.

1109
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: Right now because I mean even all right, Normani Normani

1110
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: is incredible. That record with Chris Brown. I'm forgive me

1111
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: for forgetting the name. I mean, I don't know what

1112
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: the disconnect is with Normani the one. She makes great music.

1113
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't get it they give her the opportunities as well, Like,

1114
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: it's not like she doesn't get the looks. Who's our

1115
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: girl at Sony, Tanash has gotten every look and talented.

1116
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the full disconnect.

1117
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: Is, dope, Like her music is good, like she I

1118
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: think she's talented. I just don't to with word saying

1119
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the disconnect is there though, Like

1120
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't know why people or more people don't support

1121
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: or talk about Tanasha.

1122
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: I think she's talented.

1123
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: I think because pop music is centered. Pop music for

1124
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: the longest has been center toward the young teenage white girls,

1125
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: and young teenage white girls don't support and push as

1126
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: heavy for someone they don't they can't see themselves in Yeah,

1127
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 4: So it's not about the talent, it's about the people

1128
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: who make pop music move. If they don't identify with you,

1129
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: they don't look at you and see themselves as you.

1130
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift is so popular not because her music is

1131
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: the greatest. It's because every dorky white girl looks at

1132
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: her and says, like, she reminds me of me. She's

1133
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: writing about this boy that she loves, and I just

1134
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: won't love her back. She reminds me of me. That's

1135
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: why she's as big as she is because she's so

1136
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 4: relatable to the masses, and if you want to be

1137
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 4: big in pop, you have to be relatable to the masses.

1138
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: In a very beautiful black girl, It's not I have

1139
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: my opinion on it.

1140
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: All the bigger acts, like if you go siss of

1141
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: Vitry money, like, they're all crossover R and B that

1142
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: goes into pop, which is strange because straight pop music

1143
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: does not work with black female artists. I'm sorry, not female. Now,

1144
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: let's say that black women.

1145
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: Artists black female artists is okay, hm, that's all right.

1146
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, we want to know what AP was.

1147
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: You want to say urban acts, back bitches, that's what

1148
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: when labeled say urban, that's what they're actually saying. But

1149
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: then traditional R and B doesn't work either. It's only

1150
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: really I feel like that middle ground that works in

1151
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five with black artists. When was the last

1152
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: time there was just a straight pop ax that was

1153
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: broke that didn't cross over? Because to me, Taylor Swift

1154
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: is a crossover with country and pop, like, when was

1155
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: the last time a straight like Destiny Child came out?

1156
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: And of course they were R and B to the core,

1157
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but that was a pop girl

1158
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: group Beyonce again crossover with that was pop? When was

1159
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: the last time that's even happened with with white artists?

1160
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: Sabrina Carbinson. Sabrina had to put out fifteen albums that

1161
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: weren't popped before that happened. I'd like, straight pop music

1162
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: isn't like a thing per se anymore. Yeah, Charlie x

1163
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: or whatever, who's uh, Dave Chapelle's sister Chappelle, what's her name?

1164
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: Chapel, Roam Chapel Rome. Dave Chappelle's sister is funny as ship.

1165
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: For some reason, I.

1166
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: Would about say Dave chappelle sister makes music. That's the

1167
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: most incredible secret I've ever because I had no idea.

1168
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: I guess that's straight pop, I suppose, but yeah, I

1169
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: don't know, like Sam Smith, but even though that's that's

1170
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: sort of rooted in R and B at the end

1171
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: of the day, but that was a straight pop act.

1172
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: Is R and B around?

1173
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 4: Grande just makes more R and B than she does pop.

1174
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: It's crossover crossover, but she's not a straight pop artist.

1175
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: She's like a Disney kid, isn't she.

1176
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: They don't get Sate McCrae.

1177
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tate McCray is the last I think she might

1178
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: have been the last one that popped off.

1179
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just feel like trying to

1180
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: break pop acts is not the move anymore. Make good

1181
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: music and find someone that has a personality and wing it. Yeah,

1182
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: I think that, Tyler, Like you think like when when

1183
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: Teddy Swims made Losing Control. That's been on Billboard for

1184
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't know since I since nineteen ninety, so that

1185
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: since I was born. I think I doubt they went

1186
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: in there trying to make a pop record, and he's

1187
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: not what you would call the pop vision of what

1188
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: he looks like. Shit, jelly rolls now.

1189
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Pop, Jally rolls a wrestler. It's the most incredible crossover

1190
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: we've ever seen.

1191
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: Taylor can sell out met Life, but can she do Suplex.

1192
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: No, she cannot do what Jelly Roll did at Summer Slam.

1193
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely that.

1194
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. The lines are too blurred now

1195
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: to even think about trying to break a pop back.

1196
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: We got to bring back the shows, man. We don't

1197
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: have more in MTV real world. We need those shows back.

1198
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: I think pop music was better with TRL and Oh

1199
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: shows like you need those, man, you need those.

1200
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we need alternative rock back we do. This

1201
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: is the story of a girl. She looks so sad

1202
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: in photograph. I absolutely loved her.

1203
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 4: I think Tyler would be good just to close us off.

1204
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 4: I think she'll be good if she doesn't try to

1205
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: aim for America's approval.

1206
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: I know that was my point of saying, be yourself,

1207
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 2: like I think tell Charlemagne answered Charlemagne's questions, don't cater

1208
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: to America.

1209
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 4: No, I wasn't even talking about that. I'm just going

1210
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: about as far as like what your music career period like.

1211
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: Other countries are more loyal than we are. We like

1212
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: bubbleho She's wrong, Yeah, we like bubblegum music. Now like

1213
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: in bubblegum artists, they're.

1214
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: Loyal to a lot of things. Nelson Mandela was like

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