Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: it has been I don't even know how many days
Speaker 1: it has been since the insurrection. At this point, January
Speaker 1: was a year. We are now mosying on into April
Speaker 1: and there has been no movement by Merritt Garland's Department
Speaker 1: of Justice. UM. Today we're going to get a refresher
Speaker 1: from our friend Glenn Kirshner where things stand right now.
Speaker 1: Two weeks after Congress UH sent a memo right to
Speaker 1: the court in California saying, oh, yeah, there's definitely enough
Speaker 1: evidence here for us to go after criminal charges for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and John Eastman comes on the heels of
Speaker 1: learning about Jinny Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas,
Speaker 1: and the fact that you know, not only did she
Speaker 1: attend the insurrection, but now it is also found that
Speaker 1: she funded the insurrection by paying for buses to go
Speaker 1: to the Capitol Building, so essentially paying for those people
Speaker 1: to come up to DC and storm the Capitol Building
Speaker 1: because they believed in election fraud, which leads me to
Speaker 1: believe that Clarence Thomas, a sitting Supreme Court justice, also
Speaker 1: believes that there was election fraud, even though every single
Speaker 1: report is to the contrary. Clarence Thomas hasn't been asked
Speaker 1: to recuse himself. Clarence Thomas hasn't been investigated, and so
Speaker 1: far neither has Jenny Thomas. How did we learn about
Speaker 1: the fact that she was at the insurrection? Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because of by her own volition, she was
Speaker 1: doing an interview for the Washington Beacon. Right, I don't
Speaker 1: understand how these people who are at the top echelons
Speaker 1: of our government and our society have gone unscathed. But
Speaker 1: then I answer right my own question with the description,
Speaker 1: if you are attached to power and to wealth and
Speaker 1: to whiteness, you'll get off scott free. I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, right, and I've been making this
Speaker 1: this equation, right, putting this equation together in my head
Speaker 1: because everyone says like, oh, we need to have accountability
Speaker 1: and justice will prevail in all of these things. Right,
Speaker 1: sitting and thinking to myself again. Jesse Smollett, actor who
Speaker 1: was just released waiting on appeal for his sentencing for
Speaker 1: lying to police back in twenty eighteen, Or twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: was sentenced to one hundred and fifty days in jail
Speaker 1: for lying to police, who we know lie all the
Speaker 1: fucking time to the public. They lie about unarmed people,
Speaker 1: unarmed black people that they kill. They lie about evidence
Speaker 1: that they did not find, but then want to make
Speaker 1: sure that their buddies get off scot free, or they
Speaker 1: can put together a character assassination, right so that no
Speaker 1: one delves into the report, the police reporting, so they're
Speaker 1: allowed to lie, and again there's no responsibility had whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And then you have members of Congress who have lied,
Speaker 1: they've lived about their involvement, they are pleading the fifth
Speaker 1: they are doing whatever it is that they need to
Speaker 1: do in order to cover up their tracks. And no
Speaker 1: prison time, no indictment, no even open investigation. Because to me, right, like,
Speaker 1: go back to Donald Trump in Ukraine, what did he
Speaker 1: want from Zelenski back in twenty nineteen. He wanted Zealnsky
Speaker 1: to open up an investigation into Hunter Biden because he
Speaker 1: wanted the appearance that there was wrongdoing. Because all Donald
Speaker 1: Trump understood to be true about media and how it
Speaker 1: works is that it doesn't matter if it's actually the truth,
Speaker 1: It matters what appears like it is happening, right, So again,
Speaker 1: if you are using the Republican savvy right for the
Speaker 1: for the betterment of oh, I don't know, pursuing justice,
Speaker 1: then why would our Department of Justice be opening up
Speaker 1: investigations into everyone that was in and around the insurrection.
Speaker 1: So whether it is Josh Hally that gave his fist
Speaker 1: of support and also I apparently gave tours right of
Speaker 1: the Capitol building, whether it's Marjorie Taylor Green, whether it's
Speaker 1: Jinny Thomas, why aren't these people Why isn't there an
Speaker 1: open investigation? Because we are trying to pursue justice and
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of exactly what it is that
Speaker 1: happened on January sixth, who knew about it? And from
Speaker 1: when Glenn is going to tell us that, you know what, Danielle,
Speaker 1: He says, there's more than enough evidence. There's more than
Speaker 1: enough evidence to indict. And at this stage in the game,
Speaker 1: I can't even come up with a reason as to
Speaker 1: why we are still in the position that we're in,
Speaker 1: which is stalled, other than the fact that Merrit Arlon,
Speaker 1: like Joe Biden, like the rest of Democrats have no
Speaker 1: fucking spine, right have no desire to ruffle anybody's feathers,
Speaker 1: and they believe that ignoring the problem is how it
Speaker 1: goes away, as opposed to dealing with it. Folks, we
Speaker 1: are in terrible shape. We are in terrible shape as
Speaker 1: a nation. As we profess to you want to uphold
Speaker 1: democracy around the world while ours is crumbling. We are
Speaker 1: in trouble in so many different ways. And you know,
Speaker 1: I wish that I could press fast forward. I wish
Speaker 1: that this was like a Netflix show or Hulu or
Speaker 1: whatever fucking streaming platform, where I could just press forward
Speaker 1: and know whether or not we get a Hollywood ending,
Speaker 1: whether or not those of us who have watched how
Speaker 1: our justice system arbitrarily chooses who is innocent and who
Speaker 1: is not based on what their complexion and their bank account,
Speaker 1: we've watched as politicians now at the state level are
Speaker 1: rolling out some of the most egregious abortion laws that
Speaker 1: we've ever seen that don't even that don't even make
Speaker 1: room for the health or wellbeing of a child right
Speaker 1: or for the mother in cases of rape incest. Nothing.
Speaker 1: You're having that baby, regardless of what position you are in.
Speaker 1: You are being forced into labor climate change of police reform,
Speaker 1: no voting rights. But yet this administration wants to congratulate
Speaker 1: itself on passing an anti lynching bill, which should have
Speaker 1: been passed fifty years ago. It wasn't resigning the Violence
Speaker 1: Against Women Act, which is great, but not allowing women
Speaker 1: to have abortions is also violence, right, but we're not.
Speaker 1: Let's not talk about that. So you're doing all of
Speaker 1: these low hanging fruit like things that look good or
Speaker 1: sound good but don't actually have any teeth to them.
Speaker 1: Put Maya Angelou on a coin, Harriet Tubman on a bill.
Speaker 1: Juneteenth is a federal holiday. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is telling
Speaker 1: his supporters to lay down their lives to stop critical
Speaker 1: race theory, which isn't happening. And because Democrats didn't have
Speaker 1: a defense for the pushback in Virginia on critical race theory,
Speaker 1: we know, and Donald Trump knows, and Republican knows. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's true, It just matters if you
Speaker 1: can fucking sell it. So, folks, we are at a
Speaker 1: place in our politics, in our quest for justice, on
Speaker 1: our march for the perfecting of this union. And I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest with you, I don't see it
Speaker 1: going well. And I don't know what this means. I
Speaker 1: don't even care about Democrats right now. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it means for us. I am really, really incredibly
Speaker 1: worried about America, like staying up at night worried about
Speaker 1: America because the people that are supposed to be in
Speaker 1: charge of our well being are not. The people that
Speaker 1: are supposed to care right and protect our rights are
Speaker 1: not there is now the latest is a law to
Speaker 1: what persecute people who travel out of state in order
Speaker 1: to seek an abortion, So meaning that in this democracy
Speaker 1: that we supposedly live in, there's actually no freedom of
Speaker 1: movement for women or people with uterus is because this
Speaker 1: is China and we can dictate people's movements right and
Speaker 1: threaten them with persecution. There's no pushback at the federal
Speaker 1: level from this. We have no mention whatsoever of all
Speaker 1: of the harms that Republicans are doing at the state
Speaker 1: and at the federal level. So I'm sitting around waiting
Speaker 1: for justice to prevail from the Department of Justice as
Speaker 1: it pertains to the insurrection, and I'm like, but there's
Speaker 1: no desire. I think that we are the only people
Speaker 1: left who actually give a damn, And so what does
Speaker 1: that say. You know, folks, I really hope that this
Speaker 1: coming weekend that you take a deep break, that you
Speaker 1: take a break from all of this. Turn off the news,
Speaker 1: turn off Twitter, you know, go enjoy the birth of spring,
Speaker 1: Go see some tulips, some you know, versioning of tree bulbs.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, but take a break from all
Speaker 1: of this painstaking, heartbreaking nonsense, because I find that I
Speaker 1: feel crazy these days, even more so because I keep
Speaker 1: trying to make sense out of things that just plainly
Speaker 1: don't make sense anymore. They just don't make sense. You
Speaker 1: can tell me why Democrats have an action. You can
Speaker 1: tell me why they want to throw progresses under the
Speaker 1: bus as opposed to the Conservatives that are the ones
Speaker 1: that are stopping the Biden agenda. You can tell me
Speaker 1: all of these things, but it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: And so I'm left wondering. You know, what the next
Speaker 1: couple of months look like when the Supreme Court lays
Speaker 1: out all of their decisions that are essentially going to
Speaker 1: change the landscape of America for the worse. I am
Speaker 1: deeply concerned, and so I ask all of you to
Speaker 1: take a break, you know, send us in the comments
Speaker 1: section like what are you doing? What are your plans
Speaker 1: for joy? What is your plan for happiness? Like are
Speaker 1: you going to go visit grandkids? Or you go into
Speaker 1: a park, You're going on a walk, you go into
Speaker 1: a concert, whatever it is, share it, Share your joy
Speaker 1: so that we can marinate in something other than the
Speaker 1: bullshit that is happening right now, folks. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: our friend Glenn Kirshner, MSNBC Legal analysts and host of
Speaker 1: Justice Matters, will walk us through the latest and greatest
Speaker 1: in legal news. Folks. You know that when I have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak with our friend MSNBC Legal analysts
Speaker 1: and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner, I am
Speaker 1: always overwhelmed and excited to delve into the latest legal
Speaker 1: news because we're sitting around wondering, waiting. Is the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice in operation? Is it working? So Glenn, where
Speaker 1: are we? Where do you see things right now? We
Speaker 1: last spoke a couple of weeks ago. We heard about
Speaker 1: the House Commission and their pronouncement in court about the
Speaker 1: possibility of their being criminal charges. We've kind of left
Speaker 1: it there, so let's pick up from there, which was
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. One would think it would have been
Speaker 1: bigger news, but then you know, Europe went to war.
Speaker 1: So where are we right right now in terms of
Speaker 1: the gathering phase and thinking that the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: is going to begin to move on the higher ring
Speaker 1: of the insurrectionists. Yeah, it was pretty interesting when Congress
Speaker 1: filed a brief in court saying that there's ample evidence
Speaker 1: to charge Donald Trump with a number of crimes. You
Speaker 1: know that at least we now see two of the
Speaker 1: coequal branches of government going on record as saying Donald
Speaker 1: Trump committed all sorts of crimes and should be held accountable.
Speaker 1: Congress has now said that in a formal legal filing,
Speaker 1: and the federal judges have been virtually screaming it from
Speaker 1: the rooftops, saying things like, as Judge Mata said, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's conduct on January sixth was the very essence of
Speaker 1: a conspiracy Judge Mata's word. The problem is it is
Speaker 1: the third branch of government that has the power to prosecute,
Speaker 1: the executive branch through the Department of Justice. They've been prosecuting,
Speaker 1: but they haven't been working their way up the criminal
Speaker 1: ladder as quickly as we would like them too. There
Speaker 1: have been some important developments, Daniel, since we last spoke,
Speaker 1: Guy Reffitt was convicted. Not only convicted on all counts,
Speaker 1: he was convicted on all counts by the jury in
Speaker 1: record time. Lest anybody make the argument, and I try
Speaker 1: to shoot it down every time I see it, that
Speaker 1: we can never impanel a fair and impartial jury to
Speaker 1: try these quasi political cases, we can, and the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice just did, because in less than four hours
Speaker 1: a jury convicted Guy Reffit of all counts, including abstruct
Speaker 1: the congressional count of the electoral vote. And the most
Speaker 1: important takeaway from that is Guy Refit didn't even make
Speaker 1: his way into the Capitol that day, and yet he
Speaker 1: was convicted of obstructing the congressional count of the electoral vote.
Speaker 1: Now we see on the heels of that, the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice indicting Enriquetario, who wasn't even in DC on
Speaker 1: the day of the insurrection. So Merrick Garland at least
Speaker 1: is making good on his promise to charge people whether
Speaker 1: they were at the Capitol that day or not. Enriquetario
Speaker 1: was not even in the city that day. He's been charged.
Speaker 1: And I think even more importantly, there's a Tario development
Speaker 1: that I'm hoping there's a sign of things to come,
Speaker 1: because in a twenty page motion for detention, they want
Speaker 1: to keep Tario jailed pending trial. The prosecutors quote Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's come to DC on January six will be wild
Speaker 1: waked as the motivator. The day after he sent that tweet,
Speaker 1: the Proud Boys mobilized. Here's what is coming into full
Speaker 1: focus for me, Danielle. We see a Donald Trump conspiracy
Speaker 1: in three steps or in three acts. If we go
Speaker 1: back to September twenty ninth, the debate with Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: That was the day Donald Trump recruited the Proud Boys.
Speaker 1: He said, Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. That's
Speaker 1: Act one, yep. On December nineteenth, he activated the Proud
Speaker 1: Boys and set the date of the attack. Come to
Speaker 1: DC January sixth, will be. On January sixth, he deployed,
Speaker 1: the Proud Boys. Go to the Capitol. Stop what's going
Speaker 1: on in the building. Fight like hell, or you won't
Speaker 1: have a country anymore. That's a conspiracy indictment in three
Speaker 1: acts that rights itself against Donald Trump. Danielle, and I've
Speaker 1: been I was on with Zerlina the other night, laying
Speaker 1: out this timeline and what I think is compelling evidence
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's calledpability for the crime of seditious conspiracy
Speaker 1: and inciting an insurrection. I still believe DJ is going
Speaker 1: to get there. They're not going to get there quickly enough.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say they're not getting there quickly
Speaker 1: enough is because Donald Trump had another one of his
Speaker 1: hate rallies last week where he endangered the lives of
Speaker 1: our nation's teachers by telling his supporters, you need to
Speaker 1: lay down your lives. Donald Trump's words to fight critical
Speaker 1: race theory being taught in our schools, which it really
Speaker 1: isn't and frankly it should be. But he's endangering teachers
Speaker 1: because think about it. When he said you have to
Speaker 1: go to the Capitol and fight like hell, or you
Speaker 1: won't have a country anymore. Look at what his supporters did.
Speaker 1: Now he says you have to lay down your lives
Speaker 1: to fight critical race theory or you won't have a
Speaker 1: country anymore. What do we expect his supporters to do
Speaker 1: behind that directive. So that's why I say not quickly enough,
Speaker 1: because Donald Trump needs to be neutralized as the threat
Speaker 1: to the nation that he is. You know, Glenn, what's
Speaker 1: frustrating to me, and I think that many listeners as well,
Speaker 1: is the fact that Donald Trump is a present threat, right,
Speaker 1: that there has been no time since he has left
Speaker 1: office where he has opened up his mouth and has
Speaker 1: not put people at risk, whether he's talking about COVID,
Speaker 1: whether he is, you know, three weeks before the invasion
Speaker 1: in the Ukraine, he is, you know, applauding Vladimir Putin
Speaker 1: right in as the kind of leader that this country needs,
Speaker 1: and now attacking teachers. I mean, none of this is new.
Speaker 1: My thing, though, is this when you Act one has
Speaker 1: been something that has not been addressed publicly for quite
Speaker 1: some time, that you laid out Act one when Donald
Speaker 1: Trump when all of us were watching the debate and
Speaker 1: a gas because everyone could see very clearly what that was, right,
Speaker 1: stand back and stand by. I don't need a criminal
Speaker 1: degree right to understand what it was that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was signaling. Except I keep being I keep being told
Speaker 1: right that, you know, we have to be judicious about this.
Speaker 1: We have to you know, be able to show evidence,
Speaker 1: we have to do all of these things. And I'm saying, Glenn,
Speaker 1: how is Donald Trump, in his own words on videotape
Speaker 1: at rallies at debates not enough to move forward? How
Speaker 1: is it that I continue to hear that, Well, we
Speaker 1: have to, we have to be able to explain intent.
Speaker 1: As if a jury of twelve people are that aloof that,
Speaker 1: they would have no idea what Donald Trump is directing
Speaker 1: people to do when he is very clear at the
Speaker 1: debate and at rallies up until last week, about what
Speaker 1: he wants his supporters to do. So tell me what
Speaker 1: is it? What is it? What is the magic what's
Speaker 1: the magic binder of intent that I'm waiting for here?
Speaker 1: I can't answer that question because we have enough evidence
Speaker 1: to move forward. We have had enough evidence to move
Speaker 1: forward for a very long time, Danielle. The fact that
Speaker 1: we're not it's it's part of DJ's culture, unfortunately, to
Speaker 1: be too circumspect, to be timid at times, to fear
Speaker 1: doing something that is unprecedented. There's one thing that prosecutors,
Speaker 1: federal prosecutors hate, it's to take a maiden legal voyage
Speaker 1: where something has never been done before, because they don't
Speaker 1: like to lose, they don't like to be criticized, And
Speaker 1: unfortunately that creates a culture of hesitation. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I can only assume because intent is not an issue here.
Speaker 1: When Bill Barr out on his reputation rempartation to says,
Speaker 1: I told Donald Trump, and I'm going to use Bill
Speaker 1: Barr's term, even though I'm I'm sorry to see that
Speaker 1: media outlets are giving him voice. I really am sorry
Speaker 1: to see that. But what he's been saying is I
Speaker 1: told Donald Trump to his face that his claims of
Speaker 1: election fraud were quote B s. And after that, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump continued to lie about election fraud. So you can
Speaker 1: prove his criminal intent in your sleep. So I get
Speaker 1: so tired of the naysayers, Oh, intent is so hard
Speaker 1: to prove. No, it's not. I did it for thirty
Speaker 1: years with far less evidence than we have against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can there's no logical explanation, right,
Speaker 1: thirty years I told, I told my juries for thirty years.
Speaker 1: Then ye, ladies and gentlemen, don't fall into the trap
Speaker 1: of trying to make the defendant's crimes makes sense, right,
Speaker 1: because if we had to prove they made sense, no
Speaker 1: body would ever be convicted because crime doesn't make sense. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense that DOJ is waiting this long
Speaker 1: and putting our nation at risk The only thing I
Speaker 1: can think of is that they are looking to drop
Speaker 1: an enormous conspiracy indictment on everybody, so in part they
Speaker 1: can do what we call a coordinated takedown. The one
Speaker 1: thing I will say is, prosecutors, if you're dealing with
Speaker 1: a huge gang investigation, and I've handled cases like that,
Speaker 1: you need to time a coordinated takedown because if you
Speaker 1: arrest one person, then the other ten or twelve or
Speaker 1: fifty people are going to scatter. They're gonna flee, they're
Speaker 1: going to destroy evidence, they're gonna go after witnesses, they're
Speaker 1: gonna warn their co co conspirators, they're gonna So you
Speaker 1: try to do it all at once. Maybe that's what
Speaker 1: DOJ is waiting to do. They're gonna drop the hammer
Speaker 1: on everybody all at once, to a coordinated takedown with
Speaker 1: coordinated search warrants, and then we're gonna have a big
Speaker 1: old conspiracy case in court. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: even buy that a sufficient explanation, but it is one possibility.
Speaker 1: You know. Here's my other question too. How many books
Speaker 1: have come out of the Trump administration, right, Like, how
Speaker 1: many people have denied subpoenas? Have you withheld information? So
Speaker 1: that they can make a buck. Right now, Bill Barr's
Speaker 1: book is number one for New York Times nonfiction, right,
Speaker 1: and Bill Barr knew exactly what he was doing. I'm
Speaker 1: going to sell my secrets, my thoughts to the highest bidder,
Speaker 1: make a couple of million million off of it, and
Speaker 1: be on my way, right because the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: isn't doing anything. He knows good god damn well that
Speaker 1: they have enough evidence to do anything. So how is
Speaker 1: it that Bill Barr, a man who stood up before
Speaker 1: the American people lied about the contents of the Mulla Report,
Speaker 1: then was able to capitalize on his lies that he did,
Speaker 1: being Trump's personal lawyer, is able to do a book,
Speaker 1: not be indicted, not be investigated. How does this happen, Glenn?
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the only thing lower than Bill
Speaker 1: Barr's credibility is Bill Barr's self respect. I mean lower
Speaker 1: than whale droppings. Because Bill Barr actually said in one
Speaker 1: of these interviews Donald Trump was unhinged and dangerous and
Speaker 1: I'd vote for him again. So you can't explain a
Speaker 1: human being like that, nor can you. Other than all
Speaker 1: you care about is money and power and building the theocracy.
Speaker 1: You always wanted to build in the federal government. What
Speaker 1: I can't explain, though, is the Department of Justice is
Speaker 1: in action, presently in action regarding all of it, all
Speaker 1: of the crimes that we've seen. I don't understand. You know,
Speaker 1: if you fail to hold criminal politicians leaders of the
Speaker 1: country accountable for their crimes, you know what you get.
Speaker 1: You get Vladimir Putin because he's committed crimes, including against
Speaker 1: his own people, and the machinery of his government will
Speaker 1: not hold him accountable because he's a dictator and an
Speaker 1: autocrat and a murderous thug. And that is where things lead.
Speaker 1: If you don't hold Donald Trump accountable, we're going to
Speaker 1: go the same way. It couldn't be more obvious. So
Speaker 1: at some point DJ is going to have to step up.
Speaker 1: I still believe they will, but I thought they would
Speaker 1: a year ago. And you know, I keep being told that,
Speaker 1: you know, the Department of Justice is not operating on
Speaker 1: the midterm election. You know, calendar right that although the
Speaker 1: rest of us are looking around and saying, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure what Democrats are running on because it cannot
Speaker 1: be law and order, because you haven't done anything right
Speaker 1: to preserve law and order or to reinstall it, frankly
Speaker 1: in this country. And so you know, is your feeling
Speaker 1: that if Republicans, which is more more likely than not,
Speaker 1: take over the take over Congress, take back the House
Speaker 1: in the Senate, that if we didn't get things done
Speaker 1: at this time by the Department of Justice within the
Speaker 1: next eight months, is your feeling that, oh, well, we
Speaker 1: have two years left? Is that? Is that the Is
Speaker 1: that the upside that oh, okay, well we didn't get
Speaker 1: it done in time for November twenty twenty two, but
Speaker 1: we have until I guess November twenty twenty four. Like,
Speaker 1: is that is that the feeling? Yeah? So, first of all,
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice does not operate on a political calendar.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do business by upcoming elections, and that's the
Speaker 1: way it should be. What I and I happen to
Speaker 1: believe the Dems are going to hold a House. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but that's the way I felt. I feel I could
Speaker 1: be wrong. Lots of political pundits and experts believe the
Speaker 1: Republicans will win the House. If the Republicans win the House, technically,
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice will still be headed up by
Speaker 1: a Democratic appointee, whether Garland or if Biden makes a
Speaker 1: change somebody else, so the Department of Justice and theory
Speaker 1: will continue to grind on and indict people in prosecute cases.
Speaker 1: But if the House is controlled by Republicans, they can
Speaker 1: make so much nefarious mischief in the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: by holding frivolous or even worse nefarious oversight hearings, carpet
Speaker 1: bombing the Department of Justice with congressional subpoenas, and then
Speaker 1: as Nuke Gingrich promised us, all they will find reasons
Speaker 1: to say, oh, all of these Democrats did not adequately
Speaker 1: comply with our congressional subpoenas. Locked them up using the
Speaker 1: power of inherent contempt that Congress has that the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court has said as lawful, but that the Dems refuse
Speaker 1: to use presently. Gingrich went on TV and said, oh,
Speaker 1: the J six committee members will find themselves locked up.
Speaker 1: I assume he was talking to talking about the power
Speaker 1: of inherent contempt that Congress has, because the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice is not going to lock them up because it'll
Speaker 1: still be controlled by a Democrat. So in theory, in theory,
Speaker 1: DJ will have until twenty twenty four. In reality, things
Speaker 1: may come to a grinding halt courtesy of a nefarious
Speaker 1: Republican controlled Congress. I you know, Glenn, I I try
Speaker 1: each and every week that we have the opportunity to talk,
Speaker 1: to offer people some hope, to say that like all
Speaker 1: is not lost, that we should be you know, God
Speaker 1: willing pleasantly surprised in the next couple of months. But
Speaker 1: even the news of the wife of a sitting Supreme
Speaker 1: Court member being at the insurrection, the fact that she
Speaker 1: funded busses, right, like, these are things that are coming
Speaker 1: out because I've said from the beginning, follow the money, right,
Speaker 1: you'll know exactly who was supporting what when, Like follow
Speaker 1: the money. If the Department of Justice in a week
Speaker 1: can seize all of the finances of Russian oligarchs, and
Speaker 1: you're telling me that I'm sitting around and it's just
Speaker 1: supposed to be normal that a Supreme Court justice is
Speaker 1: a spouse. It is a part of trying to overthrow
Speaker 1: the government, and we're all just supposed to look the
Speaker 1: other way. That's okay. I you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you keep faith, but I have to tell you
Speaker 1: that mine has as sorely weighed. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if if even Biden would replace Mary Garland, who I
Speaker 1: believe should be replaced with by virtue of inaction at
Speaker 1: this point if that would even matter. But the last
Speaker 1: question for you is just you know, what are you
Speaker 1: what are you paying attention to in the coming weeks
Speaker 1: as it pertains to this news around Jinny Thomas, around
Speaker 1: others that were not at the insurrection but they're being indicted,
Speaker 1: other people that we knew were there or funded. What
Speaker 1: are you paying attention to? So you know, I read
Speaker 1: the evidence that I see publicly reported and I try
Speaker 1: to assess how I would do things if I were
Speaker 1: involved in the criminal investigation and the prosecution. Of course,
Speaker 1: many of my predictions have proven to be inact. You're
Speaker 1: in at the end of the day, because even though
Speaker 1: I saw enough evidence to proceed, and I would have
Speaker 1: proceeded and indicted and prosecuted people, DJ is not doing
Speaker 1: it on the timetable I would expect them too. So
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to make predictions based on the
Speaker 1: reliable evidence because it doesn't seem like DJ is doing
Speaker 1: business as usual or as it should. In my opinion.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Ukraine, it does seem like we are doing
Speaker 1: a better job protecting Ukraine. Than we are protecting America.
Speaker 1: But here's one thing that I guess is in the
Speaker 1: news today and I'm going to keep an eye on it.
Speaker 1: You know, Bannon was in court yesterday continuing to try
Speaker 1: to make good on his threat that his criminal trial
Speaker 1: will be the misdemeanor from Hell, because he's got all
Speaker 1: these ridiculous lawyers making all kinds of outrageous claims. And
Speaker 1: the judge, Judge Nichols, handled the hearing yesterday and ruled
Speaker 1: in favor of Bannon on some issues, in favor of
Speaker 1: the government on the prosecution on some issues, which is
Speaker 1: entirely normal for these kind of pre trial motions. But
Speaker 1: here's what I think you're going to see, and I'll
Speaker 1: make another prediction. We'll see if it pans out. You know,
Speaker 1: prosecutors never go to trial in a one charge standalone
Speaker 1: case if they can bring other charges that are properly
Speaker 1: brought in one indictment together with that one standalone charge
Speaker 1: contempt of Congress. I think in fairly short order you're
Speaker 1: going to see a conspiracy indictment brought at least against
Speaker 1: the Bannons and the Roger Stones. And you know, Enrique
Speaker 1: Tario was Roger Stones right hand man, and I have
Speaker 1: a feeling the next stop up the sort of command
Speaker 1: structure of the insurrection will be the Bannons and the
Speaker 1: Stones and perhaps some others. I suspect because we have
Speaker 1: a July trial date in the Bannon contempt of Congress case,
Speaker 1: we're that that is not going to be a trial date.
Speaker 1: It's probably going to be converted into a status hearing
Speaker 1: once the government starts returning larger conspiracy indictments against Ben
Speaker 1: and others. I actually think that July trial date gives
Speaker 1: DJ a de facto hard deadline to start bringing some
Speaker 1: of these other conspiracy charges. So that's kind of the
Speaker 1: big picture thing that I'm looking at and I'm banking on.
Speaker 1: And I also think the public hearings that the House
Speaker 1: Select Committee has promised us this summer will also be
Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of move the needle with respect
Speaker 1: to both public opinion and DOJ action, Because once we
Speaker 1: see all of these crimes prove to us for the
Speaker 1: testimony of the witnesses that the House Select Committee has
Speaker 1: thus far been listening to behind closed doors, I think
Speaker 1: that will also be a potential blockbuster moment. We will see, Glenn,
Speaker 1: we will see. Thank you so much as always for
Speaker 1: making time and trying to make sense out of criminal nonsense.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you all the time. That is it for
Speaker 1: me today here on Woke a f as always. Power
Speaker 1: to the people and to all the people. Power, get
Speaker 1: woke and stay woke as fuck.